I worked for the Utah Jazz for several years, including during the 97 and 98 NBA Finals against the Bulls. Game 6 of the 98 Finals, he pulls up in a minivan, loads up three kids in his arms. I'm walking in the building behind him and with those three kids in his arms, he holds the door open for me so I could walk through. Nicest guy off the court you could ever meet. Brilliant with a basketball in his hands.
I hated the bulls growing up as a Jazz fan, but God were they incredible to watch!! Lol. That game Jordan played with the flu broke my heart. I thought we had a chance that year 😀
I agree,@@fatwhiteguy795. I was a Jazz fan, but I totally respected the Bulls, which is why I was fine with either team winning... okay, except the Bryon Russell butt shove call. 😛
For me Stockton is the best pure PG ever. Not flashy like Magic, and no rings but a player that holds the all time record in assists and steals should be in the conversation of one of the top 20 players in the history of the NBA. There are 5 mayor stats. He leads in 2 of them. He, Malone and the 90s Utah Jazz were a joy to watch. Greetings from Uruguay and thank you Sean for your work.
Stockton had 3 seasons where he averaged at least 13.5+ assists and at least 3.0 steals a game. That's insane. In 19 seasons he played all 82 games 16 times. 1st in total assists with the next closest being 3k assists away. 1st in steals with the next closest being 500 steals away.
Yeah, he was an absolute monster. He wasn't flashy often though, which could be why more people don't talk about him. The lack of rings hurts him in conversations about great players too. It's crazy seeing his stats printed out like that!
I watched almost every single Jazz game from 86-2002. There was and will never be a player as hard-nosed, disciplined, pass first minded, and humble like John Stockton. We will never see the tenacity and strength and effort for every play like we did with Stock.
@@rods5569 u must be a real DWill fan or probably related to him cause that’s not a reason to quit coaching! That’s what coaching is! Respect for defending ur fav player though
Watching Stockton set screens was something else. He would sneak in behind guys, their team mates wouldn't expect the point to set the pick so they wouldn't warn them, and they would run blind into Stockton like he was a brick wall. 7 footers would get embarrassed by that and try to fight Stockton. I've seen it happen multiple times. I once saw Stockton screen 6 foot 11 Elden Campbell so hard that Elden came up swinging and the look on his face was like he was about to cry.
Dubs fan from way back…hated Utah cuz of Stockton n Malone being so unstoppable. AND you tell no lies re Johnnie curling from under the rim up in the paint and PLANTING his chin in bigs guys chests. He was fearless. Never seen him smile tho.
Yep, he even screened Barkley, which was grotesque. Of course, Barkley moved him like a ton of bricks, but Stock held it long enough for Malone to score an open shot.
I believe Stockton may be the most underrated player in NBA history. I can't think of many guys that were on his level that no one ever really talks about.
Clyde Drexler was second to the mvp behind Jordan in 92 and last picked for the dream team and was on no commercials at all despite dominating everybody in the west, and Kevin Johnson was voted to start over him in an all star game despite Clyde's stats being way better, that defines the word underatted.
@@abegoldman8749 i feel this, clyde drexler was one of my favorites. but people making basketball games in the 90s really gave him some credit. drexler was insane in i do believe nba live 96?
Its amazing to me that this man gets so little respect from so many people and he leads two of the five major categories in NBA history. How can he not be considered the best point guard?
@richcraftboyz1740 it's a team game. Micheal Jordan is the best individual player ever but Bird is the greatest team player ever. 0-6 against Bird in the playoffs despite his unbelievable individual play. Holding no rings against a guy who leads by miles in the two most important categories a point guard would want.
@@vernonhurley1300 but bird has 3 rings Jordan still ended with six so who team was better really ….. Then if you notice I liked your comment I agree I was just telling you the obvious answer you want to ignore John Stockton can pass and steal the ball all he wants he didn’t pass like magic jump like Mike or shoot like bird and this are the real goats of his era so he was overlooked Then Steph curry came argument over
Thanks for the dunk clip. I'm a diehard NBA fan at 45 yrs old. To see Stockton dunk iced the cake. I never liked him or Utah but always respected them even back to the Jeff Malone and Thurl Bailey and Darryl Griffith days. Stockton is definitely one of the greatest point guards EVER.
As a Bulls fan I absolutely hated playing the Jazz. Especially, Stockton. The man was a near perfect basketball player. His is the only jersey I own that isn't a Bulls jersey. That is how much I respect the man!
This is an interesting perspective. I always assumed that since Utah is a small market, people wouldn't be as interested in their players. It's really cool that you took notice, especially since he didn't draw much attention to himself (other than the ire of players, cuz he was chippy). Running up against those 90's bulls teams was always nerve-wracking as a Utah fan. They were incredible to watch!
@@fatwhiteguy795Lived in Chicago during the Bulls dynasty. Some great teams came from the Western Conference throughout the ‘90’s, but my favorite team was your Jazz because they fought the hardest and made our Bulls play better than ever. Great team and organization. But that John Stockton is the best. Best PG of all time. I’m 51 and I’ve never seen a player like him. My top three, because of their work performance, Stockton, Barkley and Rodman. All three played with heart and were fearless. Blue collar guys.
@nickeyharry3605 I feel like those Bulls pushed the Jazz to be their very best too. What an era to have grown up watching!! I fully agree on Barkely and Rodman too. Absolute monsters!
Growing up in the area, I can honestly say Stockton and hornacek made us feel a certain way. Karl Malone was Karl Malone. Stockton and hornacek were the difference makers. I hated them almost as much as John starks and Reggie miller.
As crazy as it sounds, he’s underrated. That guy was a killer on the court and then looks like that guy in the suburbs that mowing his lawn in the morning.
Hornacek is another underrated point/shooting guard from the era. Very hard working and hard nosed defender, opportunistic and consistent shooting guard and never close to the biggest guy on the floor. Fun fact he also red shirted (Illinois I think) played all 4 years too! Love hearing about all my old hooper heroes.
I was a Trailblazer fan. Every game the Blazer announcers would invariably predict what an advantage Clyde Drexler would have over Jeff Hornacek. But at the end of every game Hornacek would have 35 points while Drexler had 22. Seems like those Blazer announcers never learned.
John Stockton was one of the best to ever do it. He was great to watch for me. I like hard nosed guys that just got it done. He is so underrated and it's a shame that he has become somewhat forgotten by the NBA fans. He was as complete as a basketball player as it can get. Not flashy but I loved the grit and scrappy nature with which he played. Even though it's rare nowadays, I like to see guys stick it out with one team and I always liked that about Stockton.
Im one of the few Jazz fans here in the Philippines during the Bulls 90's era. Always loved how Stockton exemplified old school basketball. Bird, Stockton, & Bill Russel my top 3 favorites.
I'm from the same hometown as John Stockton and the city has a lot of love for him. He also played at our local Gonzaga University so you know people been knowing who he is for a long time. Our only NBA team in the state though was the Seattle SuperSonics so you could imagine the real rivalry and torn emotions when they played the Jazz. Damn I miss the 90's, everything about it from music to movies to basketball to just being a kid and loving life.
Thank you for the John Stockton love. Also one of my favorite players of all time. That was the greatest era of basketball in my opinion. Every team had a superstar, some more than that.
I remember watching Stockton play in the day. With the ball or on D, he always made the correct decision when he was in the right spot. And he was always in the right spot.
Im 45 now, and was watching that game live jazz vs. rockets. I was like wow when he hit that deep 3 to end the series and send the jazz to the Finals. Clutch!
Stockton looked like a car dealer, no fancy clothes or style…just the well played fundamental bball. Most underrated PG on NBA. I know he still play on weekends at Gonzaga University court and still playing hard. I love his bball.
Yep, not only that but his availability was legendary as well. Would love his intel on load management. Another relic of the past (all-stars playing all 82)
Out of curiosity I looked up his stats. John Stockton has the most career assists + steals, with 19,071. The guy in 2nd place has 14,775. The guy in 3rd place has 14,508. You know who's 2nd and 3rd? Jason Kidd and Chris Paul. That's a difference of 4,296. All 3 of these players accumulated these numbers in 19 seasons.
A portion of it is recency bias and the assumption that the game is better today than it was then. In reality, they arent really the exact same game. Just the way the refs adjust over time makes the environment completely different. Imagine swapping todays players and the players from 1985 and trying to watch them adjust to a completely foreign way of playing the game? You used to be able to actually assault a dude on the court in the 80s, today you cant even guide their direction with your off hand. I am not a disgruntled boomer, I dont think that the more violent game is better, just pointing out how they're not comparable 1:1 in some aspects. Steals and assists however are so fundamental that their tallies can be compared and yeah, Stockton wins by a large margin. He's basically got Jokic' distribution powers but also runs constantly.
He’s also: #8 All Time in Box Plus/Minus. #3 All Time in VORP. #6 All Time in Win Shares. #9 All Time in True Shooting %(excluding C/PFs); #20 (all Positions)
I've always said this, Kareem/Lebron all time points record is more breakable than Stockton's all time assist record. Bron is only averaging like 28 ppg in his whole career and there's tons of players out there who could and had averaged that many points in a couple of solid season runs. They only have to worry about the longevity and not the ability to score. Meanwhile Stockton had a ten year run of double digits assists per game. Only Magic had a similar run like him and Stockton has more assist than Magic because he also has the longevity. You need a player with actual talent/skills to average that many assists plus doing it for years and years which makes the assist record harder to break.
@@coozkell Yup. You’re spot on. The worst part, is that: _Logically,_ it makes zero sense-the way that people assume “you’re not one of the greats”-‘if you never won a Championship’. That’s just an awful way of determining “The Greatest Players”, for countless different reasons. _KC Jones -_ *8x Champ* - _7.4 Pts | 3.5 Rb | 4.4 Ast._ _Jim Loscutoff -_ *7x Champ* - _6.2 Pts | 5.6 Rb | 0.7 Ast._ _Robert Horry -_ *7x Champ* - _7.0 Pts | 4.8 Rb | 2.1 Ast. .…_ _Michael Jordan - 6x Champ_ _Kareem A.Jabbar - 6x Champ_ _Magic Johnson - 5x Champ_ _Kobe Bryant - 5x Champ_ _Lebron James - 4x Champ_ _Larry Bird - 3x Champ…_ _Randy Brown:_ *3x Champ* _4.8 Pts | 1.8 Rb | 2.2 Ast._ _Wilt Chamberlain - _*_2x_*_ Champ_ _Hakeem Olajuwon - _*_2x_*_ Champ…_ Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley… Winning Championship ≠ Greater Player
Stock was/is my favorite NBA player ever. Oh and that dunk was at the Karl Malones basketball camp. I was there in person as a kid. It was like 1992 time frame in Bountiful, Utah. I loved seeing it again.
I huge fan of 90s basketball. Thanks for putting these videos together to showcase all the great players and talent of that era and events that makes MJ the GOAT
Stockton has a very real argument for the best PG of all time. Not saying definitively that he is, but that he has to be seriously recognized as having a part in that conversation. No one since has come close, and there have been some excellent point guards since then.
People only care about rings. Which is a team accolade so it makes no sense. Meanwhile bring up Bill Russell and they have excuses for rings all of a sudden.
I played against Stockton when he was a Gonzaga Prep High school basketball player. One thing I can tell you about those "Catholic" high school basketball players is there TOUGHNESS!! They weren't the most athletic players in the country, but PHYSICAL and TOUGHNESS wise they were BADASS high school players!! I played for the RICHLAND BOMBERS down south of Spokane, but went up every pre-season and played SHADLE PARK , ROGERS , and GONZAGA PREP and those Catholic kids from Spokane were TOUGH, TOUGH players!! The thing that set John Stockton apart is his MIND and his WILL TO WIN!! Stockton worked harder than nearly anyone else and he got BETTER and BETTER every year in high school, College, and each year in the NBA!! Hats off to John Stockton!! Love the BASKETBALL TIME MACHINE!! I rank John Stockton as the BEST PURE POINT GUARD to ever play the game!! Its hard to place Stockton over MAGIC, because they were different types of point guards!!
Thank you for the video, Sean...and it is my birthday, literally. My 10 year old son who is just getting into hoops asked me recently who my favourite player of all time was... he asked if it was Jordan, KG, or even Iverson and i say, Nope. I asked him to look at my shelf of figurines and what does he see. He was totally stumped when he saw the NBA Mcfarlane Basketball Series 2 - John Stockton figure which i had.... He asked me about it and i explained to him that i watched one NBA highlight clip when i was a teenager and such things were hard to come by, here in Singapore, back in the late 80s. I saw Mr. Stockton double teamed, trapped, falling out of bounds on the baseline and yet, he threaded a bounce pass along the base line to a Jazz team-mate who scored. It was at that point which i absolutely fell in love with basketball. Mr. Stockton is my favourite player because of all the traits which you highlighted in this video - his intelligence, mental & physical toughness, team only mentality and endurance - the exact same things which i had told my son that day. Once again, thank you for the video, Sean. It made my day.
Brother, thank you. This was an amazing review over a man which in my opinion is the ideal point guard along with Magic, and I hated him. I'm a Knicks fan and I bleed blue, and the things I watched him do and even more so live was mind blowing. It's like he didn't know he was the smallest player on the court, just like A.I. This beautiful game would be on a whole different level if most players had John Stockton's grit, and heart for the game. Eternal respect for one of the Greatest to lace them up.
Indeed, and he stayed with one team out of loyalty when he could have made more money going elsewhere. Plus in lieu of a bigger pay raise with the Jazz toward the end of his career, he asked his team to write into his contract he could do athletic things on his own time, so he could participate with his kids. That and be able to wear the shorter shorts rather than the baggy long ones the team had gone to. Thus he was not all about the money and ego many of the fools in the NBA are like today. Cancel Reply
love Stockton and as a pure point he might be number 1, but I can't disregard the individual brilliance of guys who could score 20 plus regularly. He ain't a better player than Magic, Curry or Isiah, those are for me the clear cut top 3... he is my 4 for sure though
John Stockton all day! I grew up in Utah before the family moved my senior year (2001) to NY and watched all those good years of the best Jazz team to ever be assembled. Thank you coach Sloan (rip) and to the great Jazz nation.
Great stuff as usual. A buddy of mine who's a basketball junkie that is younger than me and didn't see Stockton's full career has John in his starting five. I said not Magic? He said outside of height there wasn't much difference. I said what about exploiting his height? He said how many guys did you ever see just abuse Stockton? I could see his points. Anyhow his team was Jordan, Bird, Stockton, Kareem, and he wanted Olajuwon at the 4. He said I've got all the scoring I need. Stockton could care less if he scored 6 points. Plus, and you touched on this, he's best at protecting and stealing the ball. No flashy turnovers. I can't argue with that.
My favorite pg of all time. All time leader in steals and assists and still people don't talk to him as one of the best pgs. If I ever have to make the team that imo would destroy everyone it would be Stockton, MJ, Hakeem and 2 good defensive team players that don't need the ball to much and can shoot when needed or when they are open.
If my memory serves me, he had NO agent either. The man negotiated his own contracts and never held out. Skilled man, with amazing parents, who raised the man.
He's the only member of The Dream Team that could go out to any restaurant and not be accosted by autograph and selfies with fans. What has to be recognized is he was the captain. The floor geneal. On a team with a top 5 all time scorer in The Mailman. Even Karl knows who got him more than half of those points. The greatest setup man in the history of the backcourt. Mr John Stockton.
I was best friends with John in grade school at St Aloysius school off Mission St in Spokane. We hung out a ton- had sleepovers- everything. We would be up at night until at least 11pm on the weekends and we would be playing hoops. He lived for it. Moved away after a few years out of the city... Met up with John at SCC when we played in Summer Leauge Basketball just before he left to play for the Gonzaga Bulldogs. He was so quick, strong and and blew past most defenders with ease. Strong as an Ox for his size.
He knew his physical shortcomings compared to other players so like anyone who has the will to succeed he developed every facet of his game he could excel in to the most elite level possible. A model professional and a legend
Ya gotta highlight Bobby Jones of the Philadelphia 76'ers. Talk about a defensive specialist! I patterned my game after him and did well in my playin' days because of it.
Sometimes you see people say'" This is the best channel on youtube". I've said it myself at times but THIS CHANNEL is the best channel on UA-cam as far as entertainment. I grew up on everything on this channel. Side note, Stockton could dunk on Lakers Vs Celtics on Sega Genesis lol. Keep Up The Good Work SD.
In the 90’s, as a kid from Chicago-Michael Jordan was like a real life Superhero to me, and the Bulls seemed like the “team of avengers”… But, Stockton+Malone were the ‘EndGame-Supervillains’ that made you really, _really_ nervous.
Yeah. Because Stockton and Malone never got a ring they are fading into history. But if people could see them play today, it would be intimidating. They'd say, these guys should not be underestimated.
@@terrillmel 1000%. I don’t understand how Stock+Malone can be criticized for “never winning a Championship”-when the two Finals they lost-were against the greatest Dynasty in the History of the NBA. _Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, & Dennis Rodman,_ with _Phil Jackson_ coaching… That era of the Bulls was basically unbeatable. And that’s not even including guys like Tony Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper, etc. etc… That era of the Bulls was absolutely insane.
This is my favorite old school NBA everything!!! I like that give you props for everyone that deserved it. When I was playing Magic / Isiah were so athletic & flashy. Mr. Stockton had solid #'s & wish I watched more when I played.
Stockton is the best pg ever and no one else is even close. Magic was a better player, but as a PG, there's Stockton and then there's everyone else on a different page.
Closest to him I think was Steve Nash but yea Stockton was og pure point guard when I got n2 basketball as kid jazz was 1st team I liked also the team I picked on Nba Jam
Ya I’m from Spokane. I know John more than most. I played against all his sons and nephews. I was the best player on the best aau team in this city and top 5 in the state. John never once talked to any of the fans or players but I’ve shook his hand dozens of times. He respected my team because we were so advanced for our age. We would score 100 on teams 5-6 different times. The rich teams tried to break up our team and they did. We had some punks go to their team and 7th grade we had 7 players on the team and lost to Stockton son David in the game to go to champinship. They celebrated like they won the nba championship.
Chris Webber’s story about Stockton showing up to the game in a minivan, unloading his kids, and busting them up is one of the best NBA stories of all time. Look it up. Dan Patrick show.
You tube the Stockton 26 point 26 assists game against lakers. Also the 4th quarter game 6 Houston. Those two game he takes over at a level that's jaw dropping
A couple of things. I think Stockton was a lot of fun to watch. Very creative. I also thought all the players (interviews) in this post were fabulous ball players. Stockton was very steady and very strong. Players like Stockton, Nash, Steph are a little like drugs or something. Once you see them, you cannot get enough. I have never taken drugs. But if anyone offers me an Allen Iverson, I'll probably accept.
45 yrs old grew up in slc big time Jazz fan I've seen a lot of Jazz games even more highlights from the good Ole days with Stockton and Malone but never seen Jhon dunking it so for that I say thank you
I remember a game in which Rasheed Wallace committed a really hard foul on Stockton. Jerry Sloan was so mad that he ran onto the court swearing(a lot of F words) and was ready to throw punches at Wallace. Rasheed had the most surprised look on his face. I think that Sloan was the perfect coach for Stockton. He was very protective of his star point guard.
All the footage I've seen of Stockton possibly getting into it with someone, Malone suddenly appears with the "you land one finger on my little buddy here and I'll rip your head off" look.
Stockton was so much of a G that he accomplished all he did without having ANY off hand dribbling ability. You knew he couldn't drive left, and he still got what he wanted on the floor.
My favorite player all time. Still a Utah Jazz fan today. I loved watching him set up his passes just as much as I liked watching Jordan set up his shots.
Stockton is my favorite. When I watched Jordon live on tv, I used to compare him to Spider-man playing basketball against those guys. He could just seem to be able to do what he wanted, when he wanted and where he wanted. So fun to watch.
I would put Stockton #2 or 3 among Point Guards in terms of overall success. However, in a vacuum, I'd say he was the #1 PG ever (even over Magic and Isiah) because despite Johnson being the better rebounder and Thomas being the better one-on-one scorer, Stockton was the best defender, most efficient/distance shooter, and dominant screen-setter while at least on par if not better than the others as a playmaker. If Stockton were put on those Bad Boy Pistons or Showtime Lakers, he probably would have won 2-5 titles having so many more perennial All-Star players to pass to because all NBA Dynasties have had at least 3, if not 4, such star players (Dumars/Rodman/Laimbeer/Aguirre or Kareem/Worthy/Wilkes/Nixon/Cooper/McAdoo). Furthermore, if Stockton were given the green light to shoot like Steve Nash, he would have been just as dominant as a score-and-pass PG as the 2-time MVP BUT WITH STRONG DEFENSE.
Isiah has said he felt Stockton should have been more scoring minded. Said "he could score the ball." Which he certainly could. But he just didn't seem to have that kind of mindset. He was truly a pass-first PG. But I think Isiah may have been right. It just wasn't his mindset.
I loved watching Stockton play, he is arguably the best pure point of all-time. Even though I wasn't a Jazz fan, him and Malone were my go to on NBA Jam.
I'd say that John Stockton is the 3rd best pg I've ever seen behind Magic and Isiah. And even though Jason Kidd, and Steve Nash were great in their own right, I gotta put Stockton a bit higher than them. But if it wasn't for injuries Penny Hardaway, woulda been one of the GOATS, period, and not just in the pg position!
@@ktapreswreckd921v9 Agreed. I really think that Curry is in a class by himself. I don't necessarily mean that in terms of a GOAT debate, but more that he's not really a PG or SG. If pressed I would probably say that Isaiah is the third because of exactly that.
My favorite player of all time. Growing up in SLC as a Jazz fan and watching him hit the WCF game winner over the Rockets with my Dad in our small basement was one of my favorite memories ever. His COVID stance is dumb AF but he’ll still be one of the top 3 PGs of all time. The Pasty Gangster!
His Covid stance? Is he antivax? Anyone with a brain who actually investigated that personally is going to be against those things. They contain too many poisons.
@@pick6whodat I think Bobby has had too much Kool-Aid and needs to stop drinking it. I bet he'd rather be dead than admit he is wrong. He calls John's common sense stance (absolutely correct and only proper view) about that dumb AF when he sounds exactly that way himself. He needs to look in a mirror and call himself dumb AF. I've made a similar comment to Bobby before. He will never learn. He can't admit he's wrong. He won't last much longer being fully jabbed and boosted. Sudden Death Syndrome is his BRIGHT future.
@@donolinger6904 The kool-aid is the real epidemic. It's much easier for ppl to just do as they're told rather than think "does this make sense". Not to mention the barrage of fear from the propaganda box. Bobby's comment on watching Stockton with his dad are spot on. However his comment on John's "stance" was definitely Dumb AF
I hated John Stockton. I hated Karl Malone. I hated Jerry Sloan. Horny was fine. I just hated the Jazz as a Rockets fan from the 90s battles. I find it perfectly acceptable to talk about Malone because it's an off court thing, but with Stockton? As much as i hated him, i hate it even more how much he gets disrespected basically because he's a great white player. It's happening to all 80s and 90s players, but It happens to every white player x10. You're not allowed to be great and you get compared to someone far more athletic and showy and it makes no sense because you can do that at any position to any player-but jumping higher and dribbling cooler does not make you better. It's not street ball. John Stockton earned the respect of everyone who faced him no matter what skin color just like Larry. Yes he was dirty, but Gil brings that up to discredit him in general with nothing good to say about his game and 80s and 90s players overall. You see it happen every generation, the hate was happening in Gils decade while Nash and Dirk were winning MVPs and you see it happening in this generation while Luka is dominating stat sheets and Jokic is dominating entire teams and winning MVPS and a ring. In 20-30 years they will trash this decade of bball because those slow white boys couldn't play in the 2050's! Matt Reaves can't touch Jeff Hornacek, but Reaves getting overhyped for half a season of being serviceable while Hornacek gets hated on for being the goofy white guy guarding Jordan-oh, everyone today could score 50 on the 90s white boys! Utah is too slow and white! LeBron would have swept them etc etc, yet those old white boy Jazz wrecked Robinson and Duncan in 5 and sweeping Shaq and 3 all stars before getting to the 98 Finals. Handed Shaq and 2 all stars a gentleman's sweep the year before. Put some respect on John Stockton and those Jazz teams. You don't win that many games in the entire decade because your competition is weak, you win that much because you're that damn great. They were an awesome villain to root against. Respect from H-Town.
Yeah, I grow tired of hearing guys say, white boy….little white boy, etc. it’s meant to be disrespectful it seems to me. They can’t seem to say great basketball player. It’s got to be great white basketball player like that has anything to do with it. If you said anything similar about any other demographic it’s a huge media display of virtue signaling but you can be disrespectful and everyone jokes around as long as the player is white. And even white guys make fun of it…which makes me think…this narrative is false.
I feel bad for what's happened to the back people in america. During the 40's -60's the were respectable, intelligent men, and now they're racist and dumb. The modern culture just promotes foolish, ignorant behavior.
As I grew up a Jazz fan, I hated the Rockets and especially Hakeem. There was no live for the Spurs either. Those were some real battles between all 3 teams. I would take any of those 3 teams in the mid 90’s against any of the teams today. Now I look back with respect towards the Rockets and Spurs of the 90’s and wish that quality of basketball was being played again. Hakeem and Robinson both get overlooked now as great centers. Stockton was the man too and I would take him over any point guard today.
Hated Stockton as a Laker fan but gotta give him credit. Not a weakness in his game. Most underrated PG of all time. Deserves to be considered amongst the best at his position. Has the records to prove it
Probably one of my 5 favorite players ever. And again, the most atractive feature of his game was the way you could see his defensive and offensive IQ. He's definitely in my top 3 of PG as well.
I love John Stockton as a kid. I never saw Magic or Zeke play, but I was able to watch John. He is number 1 PG for me, number 2 is JKidd, and Number 3 is the Glove. The greatest pass-first PG for me.
It's nice to see Stockton getting some love. There is so much recency bias in the game today. Some of that is due to getting to sell audiences that James is better than top 5, but they underrate ALL the all-time guys who didn't play from 2002 on. It's really sad
I worked for the Utah Jazz for several years, including during the 97 and 98 NBA Finals against the Bulls. Game 6 of the 98 Finals, he pulls up in a minivan, loads up three kids in his arms. I'm walking in the building behind him and with those three kids in his arms, he holds the door open for me so I could walk through. Nicest guy off the court you could ever meet. Brilliant with a basketball in his hands.
Love the guy
John Stockton is the definition of hard work and fundamentals. A true legend.
Hated Stockton and Malone as a Bulls fan, but man he was a complete player. Doesn’t get nearly the credit he deserves. He’s my number 1 PG.
ABSOLUTELY
I hated the bulls growing up as a Jazz fan, but God were they incredible to watch!! Lol. That game Jordan played with the flu broke my heart. I thought we had a chance that year 😀
I agree,@@fatwhiteguy795. I was a Jazz fan, but I totally respected the Bulls, which is why I was fine with either team winning... okay, except the Bryon Russell butt shove call. 😛
@mickeylee2624 yeah, that one hurt lol. Just because it was a really pivotal moment.
Remember watching bulls games and being so mad that they were letting that white boy do that to them.
For me Stockton is the best pure PG ever. Not flashy like Magic, and no rings but a player that holds the all time record in assists and steals should be in the conversation of one of the top 20 players in the history of the NBA. There are 5 mayor stats. He leads in 2 of them. He, Malone and the 90s Utah Jazz were a joy to watch. Greetings from Uruguay and thank you Sean for your work.
and those two he owns will never be broken
Top 20 player of all time? For real?
@@timcombs558 Yes. John Stockton is the best point guard of all time.
@@MS-ns2pj I have to disagree. Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas both performed better in the playoffs and the Finals.
@@ktapreswreckd921v9 Stock was no slouch. He had a 23 point 24 assist game vs Magic in the playoffs. Stock outperformed Magic that whole series.
Stockton had 3 seasons where he averaged at least 13.5+ assists and at least 3.0 steals a game. That's insane. In 19 seasons he played all 82 games 16 times. 1st in total assists with the next closest being 3k assists away. 1st in steals with the next closest being 500 steals away.
That's fucking insane. Also, when it's LeBron, having a long career is praised but with Stockton it's overlooked and not even considered.
Bruh he only missed about 20 games his entire career
Yeah, he was an absolute monster. He wasn't flashy often though, which could be why more people don't talk about him. The lack of rings hurts him in conversations about great players too. It's crazy seeing his stats printed out like that!
@@lolh4xno dude u know how many people say lebron only has certain things because of longevity. It's actually used to downgrade him.
@@greatstag Not missing games was more of the norm then. People didn’t miss games simply because they had menstrual cramps.
I watched almost every single Jazz game from 86-2002. There was and will never be a player as hard-nosed, disciplined, pass first minded, and humble like John Stockton. We will never see the tenacity and strength and effort for every play like we did with Stock.
Let’s talk about our favorite coach killer! Why and how did Deron Williams make one of the best coaches to quit?
@@NmberOneNetsFan Deron Williams didn't make him retire, being 70 years old and facing a rebuild did.
@@rods5569 u must be a real DWill fan or probably related to him cause that’s not a reason to quit coaching! That’s what coaching is! Respect for defending ur fav player though
@@NmberOneNetsFan That's a dumbass retort. You're a very disingenuous person.
@@NmberOneNetsFan I think it was more of the organization siding with their big contract player instead of their 70 year old coach.
Watching Stockton set screens was something else. He would sneak in behind guys, their team mates wouldn't expect the point to set the pick so they wouldn't warn them, and they would run blind into Stockton like he was a brick wall. 7 footers would get embarrassed by that and try to fight Stockton. I've seen it happen multiple times. I once saw Stockton screen 6 foot 11 Elden Campbell so hard that Elden came up swinging and the look on his face was like he was about to cry.
Dubs fan from way back…hated Utah cuz of Stockton n Malone being so unstoppable.
AND you tell no lies re Johnnie curling from under the rim up in the paint and PLANTING his chin in bigs guys chests. He was fearless.
Never seen him smile tho.
To be fair, Elden Campbell always looked like he was about to cry.
Yep, he even screened Barkley, which was grotesque. Of course, Barkley moved him like a ton of bricks, but Stock held it long enough for Malone to score an open shot.
I believe Stockton may be the most underrated player in NBA history. I can't think of many guys that were on his level that no one ever really talks about.
He's sadly a victim of his own unselfishness and love of setting his teammates up.
Clyde Drexler was second to the mvp behind Jordan in 92 and last picked for the dream team and was on no commercials at all despite dominating everybody in the west, and Kevin Johnson was voted to start over him in an all star game despite Clyde's stats being way better, that defines the word underatted.
@@abegoldman8749 i feel this, clyde drexler was one of my favorites.
but people making basketball games in the 90s really gave him some credit. drexler was insane in i do believe nba live 96?
Him and Duncan
Dirk is probably the most underrated tbh.
I met John Stockton once, super nice guy and massive hands. Much better athlete that you can imagine. Super quick and strong.
Its amazing to me that this man gets so little respect from so many people and he leads two of the five major categories in NBA history. How can he not be considered the best point guard?
Because what and who a point guard could be changed, everyone that knows basketball loves him.
No rings
@richcraftboyz1740 it's a team game. Micheal Jordan is the best individual player ever but Bird is the greatest team player ever. 0-6 against Bird in the playoffs despite his unbelievable individual play. Holding no rings against a guy who leads by miles in the two most important categories a point guard would want.
@@richcraftboyz1740
Stupid argument
@@vernonhurley1300 but bird has 3 rings Jordan still ended with six so who team was better really …..
Then if you notice I liked your comment I agree I was just telling you the obvious answer you want to ignore
John Stockton can pass and steal the ball all he wants he didn’t pass like magic jump like Mike or shoot like bird and this are the real goats of his era so he was overlooked
Then Steph curry came argument over
The fact that John Stockton gifted me a signed pair "Dream Team" Reeboks, is enough to make him my favorite PG.
More info please.
Thanks for the dunk clip. I'm a diehard NBA fan at 45 yrs old. To see Stockton dunk iced the cake. I never liked him or Utah but always respected them even back to the Jeff Malone and Thurl Bailey and Darryl Griffith days. Stockton is definitely one of the greatest point guards EVER.
It wasn't him.. plus hoop is low.
@@airkuna It was him and it wasn't. It was at a clinic at a school he did yrs ago. The video is somewhere here on YT.
@@Amick44 you can't know.. quality of video is bad..
@@airkuna well I saw the video the instructional video where he does this. I've seen much worse.
@@airkuna then you can't say rim was lowered. Your argue is just bullcrap
As a Bulls fan I absolutely hated playing the Jazz. Especially, Stockton. The man was a near perfect basketball player. His is the only jersey I own that isn't a Bulls jersey. That is how much I respect the man!
This is an interesting perspective. I always assumed that since Utah is a small market, people wouldn't be as interested in their players. It's really cool that you took notice, especially since he didn't draw much attention to himself (other than the ire of players, cuz he was chippy).
Running up against those 90's bulls teams was always nerve-wracking as a Utah fan. They were incredible to watch!
@@fatwhiteguy795Lived in Chicago during the Bulls dynasty. Some great teams came from the Western Conference throughout the ‘90’s, but my favorite team was your Jazz because they fought the hardest and made our Bulls play better than ever. Great team and organization. But that John Stockton is the best. Best PG of all time. I’m 51 and I’ve never seen a player like him. My top three, because of their work performance, Stockton, Barkley and Rodman. All three played with heart and were fearless. Blue collar guys.
@nickeyharry3605 I feel like those Bulls pushed the Jazz to be their very best too. What an era to have grown up watching!! I fully agree on Barkely and Rodman too. Absolute monsters!
Growing up in the area, I can honestly say Stockton and hornacek made us feel a certain way. Karl Malone was Karl Malone. Stockton and hornacek were the difference makers. I hated them almost as much as John starks and Reggie miller.
@@roostercocksmith Hi Rooster. Very good observation. Hornacek was mighty tough to handle.
As crazy as it sounds, he’s underrated. That guy was a killer on the court and then looks like that guy in the suburbs that mowing his lawn in the morning.
Stock, Magic, and Isaiah. That’s in no particular order. They were all great in their own respects. Love your channel. I miss the old days
Steph too, now. Yes, he's a point.
@@Amick44 No, Steph Curry is not a good point guard. He’s a mediocre point guard, but a great shooting guard.
I have the same pick for my top 3 point guards
Gary Payton for his 2-way dominance
Please spell Isiah correctly.
Head to head, Zeke had a better record.
Of all of the basketball greats from the past, none is more disrespected by modern fans than John Stockton.
Hornacek is another underrated point/shooting guard from the era. Very hard working and hard nosed defender, opportunistic and consistent shooting guard and never close to the biggest guy on the floor. Fun fact he also red shirted (Illinois I think) played all 4 years too!
Love hearing about all my old hooper heroes.
I was a Trailblazer fan. Every game the Blazer announcers would invariably predict what an advantage Clyde Drexler would have over Jeff Hornacek. But at the end of every game Hornacek would have 35 points while Drexler had 22. Seems like those Blazer announcers never learned.
As a Jazz fan, those were the days! The players were pretty amazing back then, especially how physical they played.@@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals
John Stockton was one of the best to ever do it. He was great to watch for me. I like hard nosed guys that just got it done. He is so underrated and it's a shame that he has become somewhat forgotten by the NBA fans.
He was as complete as a basketball player as it can get. Not flashy but I loved the grit and scrappy nature with which he played.
Even though it's rare nowadays, I like to see guys stick it out with one team and I always liked that about Stockton.
Completely agree!
Im one of the few Jazz fans here in the Philippines during the Bulls 90's era. Always loved how Stockton exemplified old school basketball. Bird, Stockton, & Bill Russel my top 3 favorites.
Listen to Arenas whine about how "dirty" Stockton was 😂 Nah, cupcake. He was tough and he didn't need a gun to prove it.
Crazy part is I believe Gil
@@vBro1y I don't care, bro.
Well said.
Dude couldn't defend so he hates players that can.
I'm from the same hometown as John Stockton and the city has a lot of love for him. He also played at our local Gonzaga University so you know people been knowing who he is for a long time. Our only NBA team in the state though was the Seattle SuperSonics so you could imagine the real rivalry and torn emotions when they played the Jazz. Damn I miss the 90's, everything about it from music to movies to basketball to just being a kid and loving life.
Thank you for the John Stockton love. Also one of my favorite players of all time. That was the greatest era of basketball in my opinion. Every team had a superstar, some more than that.
I swear, I was about to say almost exactly that, word for word. Weird...
I remember watching Stockton play in the day. With the ball or on D, he always made the correct decision when he was in the right spot. And he was always in the right spot.
"John Stockton send the Utah Jazz to the NBA final" still give me goosebumps.
Im 45 now, and was watching that game live jazz vs. rockets. I was like wow when he hit that deep 3 to end the series and send the jazz to the Finals. Clutch!
Stockton looked like a car dealer, no fancy clothes or style…just the well played fundamental bball. Most underrated PG on NBA.
I know he still play on weekends at Gonzaga University court and still playing hard.
I love his bball.
which was not bad bec John could enjoy Barcelona 1992 off court like a tourist while MJ was playing cards in Barcelona's basements 😂
@@ronny-lb1cr yeah totally agree ! I watched on Dream Team documentary exactly this happened to him on the streets.
@@abcdefgh4404 same here.👍🏾 No one bothered John
It's a little sad that the NBA today has fewer star players like John Stockton who retire without ever changing teams.
Yep, not only that but his availability was legendary as well. Would love his intel on load management. Another relic of the past (all-stars playing all 82)
True, but Bird comes close. There are others, but I'll have to check.
I don't care if a player stays with one team.🤷🏾
Chris, you may not care, but others clearly do. It does not matter to me that you don't care. I am more concerned about people that do care.
@@roderickcampbell2105 maybe I feel the way I feel because I'm a Lakers fan. That is from Pittsburgh pa and we don't have a NBA team.
I still do not understand why people ranks CP3 ahead of John Stockton, it is insane!
Well this is just like people putting KD over Bird.
Out of curiosity I looked up his stats. John Stockton has the most career assists + steals, with 19,071. The guy in 2nd place has 14,775. The guy in 3rd place has 14,508. You know who's 2nd and 3rd? Jason Kidd and Chris Paul. That's a difference of 4,296. All 3 of these players accumulated these numbers in 19 seasons.
Those comments are usually made by people who know nothing about basketball. CP3 is nowhere near him.
A portion of it is recency bias and the assumption that the game is better today than it was then. In reality, they arent really the exact same game. Just the way the refs adjust over time makes the environment completely different. Imagine swapping todays players and the players from 1985 and trying to watch them adjust to a completely foreign way of playing the game? You used to be able to actually assault a dude on the court in the 80s, today you cant even guide their direction with your off hand. I am not a disgruntled boomer, I dont think that the more violent game is better, just pointing out how they're not comparable 1:1 in some aspects.
Steals and assists however are so fundamental that their tallies can be compared and yeah, Stockton wins by a large margin. He's basically got Jokic' distribution powers but also runs constantly.
@@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212 The gap is huge
John is the NBA all time leader in steals and assists. Way ahead of the #2. Also, only missed a few games in his entire career.
I think maybe 22 games in his 19years playing that’s insane
He’s also:
#8 All Time in Box Plus/Minus.
#3 All Time in VORP.
#6 All Time in Win Shares.
#9 All Time in True Shooting %(excluding C/PFs); #20 (all Positions)
I've always said this, Kareem/Lebron all time points record is more breakable than Stockton's all time assist record. Bron is only averaging like 28 ppg in his whole career and there's tons of players out there who could and had averaged that many points in a couple of solid season runs. They only have to worry about the longevity and not the ability to score. Meanwhile Stockton had a ten year run of double digits assists per game. Only Magic had a similar run like him and Stockton has more assist than Magic because he also has the longevity. You need a player with actual talent/skills to average that many assists plus doing it for years and years which makes the assist record harder to break.
@@bilogskii2216 Exactly! You can always score specially in today's volume 3 shooting league.. but getting them assists is not nearly as easy
@@coozkell Yup. You’re spot on.
The worst part, is that: _Logically,_ it makes zero sense-the way that people assume “you’re not one of the greats”-‘if you never won a Championship’.
That’s just an awful way of determining “The Greatest Players”, for countless different reasons.
_KC Jones -_ *8x Champ* -
_7.4 Pts | 3.5 Rb | 4.4 Ast._
_Jim Loscutoff -_ *7x Champ* -
_6.2 Pts | 5.6 Rb | 0.7 Ast._
_Robert Horry -_ *7x Champ* -
_7.0 Pts | 4.8 Rb | 2.1 Ast. .…_
_Michael Jordan - 6x Champ_
_Kareem A.Jabbar - 6x Champ_
_Magic Johnson - 5x Champ_
_Kobe Bryant - 5x Champ_
_Lebron James - 4x Champ_
_Larry Bird - 3x Champ…_
_Randy Brown:_ *3x Champ*
_4.8 Pts | 1.8 Rb | 2.2 Ast._
_Wilt Chamberlain - _*_2x_*_ Champ_
_Hakeem Olajuwon - _*_2x_*_ Champ…_
Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley…
Winning Championship ≠ Greater Player
Stock was/is my favorite NBA player ever. Oh and that dunk was at the Karl Malones basketball camp. I was there in person as a kid. It was like 1992 time frame in Bountiful, Utah. I loved seeing it again.
Johnny Stockton was so god like Johnny in Dirty Dancing. One of the all time greats! Thx for the Stockton Dunk too. Never thought that was possible.
I huge fan of 90s basketball. Thanks for putting these videos together to showcase all the great players and talent of that era and events that makes MJ the GOAT
Stockton has a very real argument for the best PG of all time. Not saying definitively that he is, but that he has to be seriously recognized as having a part in that conversation. No one since has come close, and there have been some excellent point guards since then.
People only care about rings. Which is a team accolade so it makes no sense. Meanwhile bring up Bill Russell and they have excuses for rings all of a sudden.
He is the best PG of all time. It isn't close either.
I played against Stockton when he was a Gonzaga Prep High school basketball player. One thing I can tell you about those "Catholic" high school basketball players is there TOUGHNESS!! They weren't the most athletic players in the country, but PHYSICAL and TOUGHNESS wise they were BADASS high school players!! I played for the RICHLAND BOMBERS down south of Spokane, but went up every pre-season and played SHADLE PARK , ROGERS , and GONZAGA PREP and those Catholic kids from Spokane were TOUGH, TOUGH players!!
The thing that set John Stockton apart is his MIND and his WILL TO WIN!! Stockton worked harder than nearly anyone else and he got BETTER and BETTER every year in high school, College, and each year in the NBA!!
Hats off to John Stockton!!
Love the BASKETBALL TIME MACHINE!! I rank John Stockton as the BEST PURE POINT GUARD to ever play the game!! Its hard to place Stockton over MAGIC, because they were different types of point guards!!
Ya I played against his son David and all Stockton nephews.
Thank you for the video, Sean...and it is my birthday, literally.
My 10 year old son who is just getting into hoops asked me recently who my favourite player of all time was... he asked if it was Jordan, KG, or even Iverson and i say, Nope.
I asked him to look at my shelf of figurines and what does he see. He was totally stumped when he saw the NBA Mcfarlane Basketball Series 2 - John Stockton figure which i had....
He asked me about it and i explained to him that i watched one NBA highlight clip when i was a teenager and such things were hard to come by, here in Singapore, back in the late 80s. I saw Mr. Stockton double teamed, trapped, falling out of bounds on the baseline and yet, he threaded a bounce pass along the base line to a Jazz team-mate who scored. It was at that point which i absolutely fell in love with basketball.
Mr. Stockton is my favourite player because of all the traits which you highlighted in this video - his intelligence, mental & physical toughness, team only mentality and endurance - the exact same things which i had told my son that day.
Once again, thank you for the video, Sean. It made my day.
McFarland had a good taste having chosen such a monster in that position. Well done for Todd.
Great comment Stockton was my fav too
John Stockton was the Michael Jordan of all John Stocktons
Brother, thank you. This was an amazing review over a man which in my opinion is the ideal point guard along with Magic, and I hated him. I'm a Knicks fan and I bleed blue, and the things I watched him do and even more so live was mind blowing. It's like he didn't know he was the smallest player on the court, just like A.I. This beautiful game would be on a whole different level if most players had John Stockton's grit, and heart for the game. Eternal respect for one of the Greatest to lace them up.
Legendary...... He needs to get his respect!!!
Stockton is a Legend! ❤
Stockton to Malone.
There’s a childhood memory.
Greatest PG of all-time. Also, an Ironman. He only missed 14 games his entire career. His assist to TO ratio is the best too.
Indeed, and he stayed with one team out of loyalty when he could have made more money going elsewhere. Plus in lieu of a bigger pay raise with the Jazz toward the end of his career, he asked his team to write into his contract he could do athletic things on his own time, so he could participate with his kids. That and be able to wear the shorter shorts rather than the baggy long ones the team had gone to. Thus he was not all about the money and ego many of the fools in the NBA are like today.
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We don't give this man enough credit. He's #2 point guard of all times in my book just behind Magic.
Absolutely!
He’s better than Magic.
@Surfy- The size plays a huge part in Magic being better than Stockton. But as far as PG, Stockton is the best PG of all time
love Stockton and as a pure point he might be number 1, but I can't disregard the individual brilliance of guys who could score 20 plus regularly. He ain't a better player than Magic, Curry or Isiah, those are for me the clear cut top 3... he is my 4 for sure though
Been watching your channel for a long time. Takes me back to my youth!! I was so lucky to have grown up in the 90s!! Keep up the great content!!
Can't go wrong with Stockton. He makes everyone better.
Underrated defender and really efficient scorer too!
Thx for showing Stockton dunking. Never saw that too!
He was the best PG I saw play. No one controlled a game the way he did on both ends.
Two of my fave players in the late 1980's and early 1990's ... had to be the Glove and John Stockton ... bar none.
John Stockton all day! I grew up in Utah before the family moved my senior year (2001) to NY and watched all those good years of the best Jazz team to ever be assembled. Thank you coach Sloan (rip) and to the great Jazz nation.
Great stuff as usual. A buddy of mine who's a basketball junkie that is younger than me and didn't see Stockton's full career has John in his starting five. I said not Magic? He said outside of height there wasn't much difference. I said what about exploiting his height? He said how many guys did you ever see just abuse Stockton? I could see his points. Anyhow his team was Jordan, Bird, Stockton, Kareem, and he wanted Olajuwon at the 4. He said I've got all the scoring I need. Stockton could care less if he scored 6 points. Plus, and you touched on this, he's best at protecting and stealing the ball. No flashy turnovers. I can't argue with that.
People who called John Stockton dirty were players that couldn't handle is amazing skill.
Great video. It was worth it for the clip of Stockton dunking alone.
My favorite pg of all time. All time leader in steals and assists and still people don't talk to him as one of the best pgs. If I ever have to make the team that imo would destroy everyone it would be Stockton, MJ, Hakeem and 2 good defensive team players that don't need the ball to much and can shoot when needed or when they are open.
I know I'm late to this thread, but your team would be awesome!
Agreed on watching the most craftiest players in the game.
Magic, Bird, Stockton.
So enjoyable to watch.
If my memory serves me, he had NO agent either. The man negotiated his own contracts and never held out. Skilled man, with amazing parents, who raised the man.
Excellent episode. Stockton is definitely top 5 pgs all time.
The ultimate facilitator and a ruthless defender. All time assist and steal leader. People forget how great he was.
"BACK TF UP!" LOL savage!!!
He's the only member of The Dream Team that could go out to any restaurant and not be accosted by autograph and selfies with fans. What has to be recognized is he was the captain. The floor geneal. On a team with a top 5 all time scorer in The Mailman. Even Karl knows who got him more than half of those points. The greatest setup man in the history of the backcourt. Mr John Stockton.
I was best friends with John in grade school at St Aloysius school off Mission St in Spokane. We hung out a ton- had sleepovers- everything. We would be up at night until at least 11pm on the weekends and we would be playing hoops. He lived for it. Moved away after a few years out of the city... Met up with John at SCC when we played in Summer Leauge Basketball just before he left to play for the Gonzaga Bulldogs. He was so quick, strong and and blew past most defenders with ease. Strong as an Ox for his size.
Seems like every time I think of a player I’d love to see covered it covered again I wait a few days and here it is
Absolutely love this channel. Nostalgia overdose. Thank you.
He knew his physical shortcomings compared to other players so like anyone who has the will to succeed he developed every facet of his game he could excel in to the most elite level possible.
A model professional and a legend
Physical shortcomings? You mean being white?
nba youtube community lucky to have you in the mix.
Ya gotta highlight Bobby Jones of the Philadelphia 76'ers. Talk about a defensive specialist! I patterned my game after him and did well in my playin' days because of it.
Sometimes you see people say'" This is the best channel on youtube". I've said it myself at times but THIS CHANNEL is the best channel on UA-cam as far as entertainment. I grew up on everything on this channel.
Side note, Stockton could dunk on Lakers Vs Celtics on Sega Genesis lol.
Keep Up The Good Work SD.
In the 90’s, as a kid from Chicago-Michael Jordan was like a real life Superhero to me, and the Bulls seemed like the “team of avengers”…
But, Stockton+Malone were the ‘EndGame-Supervillains’ that made you really, _really_ nervous.
Yeah. Because Stockton and Malone never got a ring they are fading into history. But if people could see them play today, it would be intimidating. They'd say, these guys should not be underestimated.
@@terrillmel 1000%. I don’t understand how Stock+Malone can be criticized for “never winning a Championship”-when the two Finals they lost-were against the greatest Dynasty in the History of the NBA.
_Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, & Dennis Rodman,_ with _Phil Jackson_ coaching…
That era of the Bulls was basically unbeatable.
And that’s not even including guys like Tony Kukoc, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper, etc. etc…
That era of the Bulls was absolutely insane.
This is my favorite old school NBA everything!!! I like that give you props for everyone that deserved it. When I was playing Magic / Isiah were so athletic & flashy. Mr. Stockton had solid #'s & wish I watched more when I played.
Stockton and Malone … what a combo.
Man, I love your channel. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s and in my opinion it was the best era of NBA basketball
Stockton is the best pg ever and no one else is even close. Magic was a better player, but as a PG, there's Stockton and then there's everyone else on a different page.
Here's your confirmation. Jordan said he was his toughest defender period. There's a reason he told Kerr to be ready for that shot.
Closest to him I think was Steve Nash but yea Stockton was og pure point guard when I got n2 basketball as kid jazz was 1st team I liked also the team I picked on Nba Jam
Exactly, and everyone know it from every generation. There John Stockton and then everyone else if we talking pure point guard.
Better than Curry? No
With no ring to back it up
Ya I’m from Spokane. I know John more than most. I played against all his sons and nephews. I was the best player on the best aau team in this city and top 5 in the state. John never once talked to any of the fans or players but I’ve shook his hand dozens of times. He respected my team because we were so advanced for our age. We would score 100 on teams 5-6 different times. The rich teams tried to break up our team and they did. We had some punks go to their team and 7th grade we had 7 players on the team and lost to Stockton son David in the game to go to champinship. They celebrated like they won the nba championship.
Chris Webber’s story about Stockton showing up to the game in a minivan, unloading his kids, and busting them up is one of the best NBA stories of all time. Look it up. Dan Patrick show.
You tube the Stockton 26 point 26 assists game against lakers. Also the 4th quarter game 6 Houston. Those two game he takes over at a level that's jaw dropping
A couple of things. I think Stockton was a lot of fun to watch. Very creative. I also thought all the players (interviews) in this post were fabulous ball players. Stockton was very steady and very strong. Players like Stockton, Nash, Steph are a little like drugs or something. Once you see them, you cannot get enough. I have never taken drugs. But if anyone offers me an Allen Iverson, I'll probably accept.
45 yrs old grew up in slc big time Jazz fan I've seen a lot of Jazz games even more highlights from the good Ole days with Stockton and Malone but never seen Jhon dunking it so for that I say thank you
When you lead the NBA all time in two of it's
major categories, you're an all time great. I'd
put him #2 or 3 all time as PG.
💯👌🏼 i got Magic, Kidd, and Stockton. Wherever you want to rank them, i dont think there's a right or wrong order, to be honest 😅
He could dunk????!!!! Dude you are a legend for finding us that footage!!!!
I remember a game in which Rasheed Wallace committed a really hard foul on Stockton. Jerry Sloan was so mad that he ran onto the court swearing(a lot of F words) and was ready to throw punches at Wallace. Rasheed had the most surprised look on his face. I think that Sloan was the perfect coach for Stockton. He was very protective of his star point guard.
All the footage I've seen of Stockton possibly getting into it with someone, Malone suddenly appears with the "you land one finger on my little buddy here and I'll rip your head off" look.
As a Knicks fan we didn't see him that often but man he was great
Stockton was so much of a G that he accomplished all he did without having ANY off hand dribbling ability. You knew he couldn't drive left, and he still got what he wanted on the floor.
Yet I don't get it when they say "he wasn't so fast". He was, very. Both fast and quick.
My favorite player all time. Still a Utah Jazz fan today. I loved watching him set up his passes just as much as I liked watching Jordan set up his shots.
Stockton is my favorite. When I watched Jordon live on tv, I used to compare him to Spider-man playing basketball against those guys. He could just seem to be able to do what he wanted, when he wanted and where he wanted. So fun to watch.
I would put Stockton #2 or 3 among Point Guards in terms of overall success. However, in a vacuum, I'd say he was the #1 PG ever (even over Magic and Isiah) because despite Johnson being the better rebounder and Thomas being the better one-on-one scorer, Stockton was the best defender, most efficient/distance shooter, and dominant screen-setter while at least on par if not better than the others as a playmaker.
If Stockton were put on those Bad Boy Pistons or Showtime Lakers, he probably would have won 2-5 titles having so many more perennial All-Star players to pass to because all NBA Dynasties have had at least 3, if not 4, such star players (Dumars/Rodman/Laimbeer/Aguirre or Kareem/Worthy/Wilkes/Nixon/Cooper/McAdoo).
Furthermore, if Stockton were given the green light to shoot like Steve Nash, he would have been just as dominant as a score-and-pass PG as the 2-time MVP BUT WITH STRONG DEFENSE.
Isiah has said he felt Stockton should have been more scoring minded. Said "he could score the ball." Which he certainly could. But he just didn't seem to have that kind of mindset. He was truly a pass-first PG. But I think Isiah may have been right. It just wasn't his mindset.
Best basketball channel out!
What I loved most about Stockton was his defense and toughness.
I loved watching Stockton play, he is arguably the best pure point of all-time. Even though I wasn't a Jazz fan, him and Malone were my go to on NBA Jam.
I'd say that John Stockton is the 3rd best pg I've ever seen behind Magic and Isiah. And even though Jason Kidd, and Steve Nash were great in their own right, I gotta put Stockton a bit higher than them. But if it wasn't for injuries Penny Hardaway, woulda been one of the GOATS, period, and not just in the pg position!
I started watching Stockton ‘90/‘91 time, he ALWAYS stood out to me
Magic, Stockton, Curry (this pick can also be Isaiah Thomas) in no particular order
Curry doesn't really pass the ball as greatly as Magic, Stockton or Thomas .
@@ktapreswreckd921v9 Agreed. I really think that Curry is in a class by himself. I don't necessarily mean that in terms of a GOAT debate, but more that he's not really a PG or SG. If pressed I would probably say that Isaiah is the third because of exactly that.
I'd put a lot of guys ahead of Steph. He's playing in the easiest era. Even Mark Price would be a better player in the Modern era.
Bruh I’ve always been a fan of Stockton…dude was underrated 💯 crazy how that 3 was so close to falling in that finals against the Bulls too..
Missed 22 games in 19 years in a physical era of 🏀, if that's not toughness i don't know what is
And 18 of those games came in one season after he had surgery!
Respect the Legend STOCKTON 🔥🔥🔥🔥
My favorite player of all time. Growing up in SLC as a Jazz fan and watching him hit the WCF game winner over the Rockets with my Dad in our small basement was one of my favorite memories ever. His COVID stance is dumb AF but he’ll still be one of the top 3 PGs of all time. The Pasty Gangster!
His Covid stance? Is he antivax? Anyone with a brain who actually investigated that personally is going to be against those things. They contain too many poisons.
His stance against forcing students to be experimented on and fans wearing useless face diapers??🤔🤔
@@pick6whodat I think Bobby has had too much Kool-Aid and needs to stop drinking it. I bet he'd rather be dead than admit he is wrong. He calls John's common sense stance (absolutely correct and only proper view) about that dumb AF when he sounds exactly that way himself. He needs to look in a mirror and call himself dumb AF. I've made a similar comment to Bobby before. He will never learn. He can't admit he's wrong. He won't last much longer being fully jabbed and boosted. Sudden Death Syndrome is his BRIGHT future.
@@donolinger6904 The kool-aid is the real epidemic. It's much easier for ppl to just do as they're told rather than think "does this make sense". Not to mention the barrage of fear from the propaganda box. Bobby's comment on watching Stockton with his dad are spot on. However his comment on John's "stance" was definitely Dumb AF
Don't listen to the fear monger.
Stockton & Utah introduced me to basketball. Legendary.
I hated John Stockton. I hated Karl Malone. I hated Jerry Sloan. Horny was fine. I just hated the Jazz as a Rockets fan from the 90s battles. I find it perfectly acceptable to talk about Malone because it's an off court thing, but with Stockton? As much as i hated him, i hate it even more how much he gets disrespected basically because he's a great white player. It's happening to all 80s and 90s players, but It happens to every white player x10. You're not allowed to be great and you get compared to someone far more athletic and showy and it makes no sense because you can do that at any position to any player-but jumping higher and dribbling cooler does not make you better. It's not street ball.
John Stockton earned the respect of everyone who faced him no matter what skin color just like Larry. Yes he was dirty, but Gil brings that up to discredit him in general with nothing good to say about his game and 80s and 90s players overall. You see it happen every generation, the hate was happening in Gils decade while Nash and Dirk were winning MVPs and you see it happening in this generation while Luka is dominating stat sheets and Jokic is dominating entire teams and winning MVPS and a ring. In 20-30 years they will trash this decade of bball because those slow white boys couldn't play in the 2050's!
Matt Reaves can't touch Jeff Hornacek, but Reaves getting overhyped for half a season of being serviceable while Hornacek gets hated on for being the goofy white guy guarding Jordan-oh, everyone today could score 50 on the 90s white boys! Utah is too slow and white! LeBron would have swept them etc etc, yet those old white boy Jazz wrecked Robinson and Duncan in 5 and sweeping Shaq and 3 all stars before getting to the 98 Finals. Handed Shaq and 2 all stars a gentleman's sweep the year before.
Put some respect on John Stockton and those Jazz teams. You don't win that many games in the entire decade because your competition is weak, you win that much because you're that damn great. They were an awesome villain to root against. Respect from H-Town.
Yeah, I grow tired of hearing guys say, white boy….little white boy, etc. it’s meant to be disrespectful it seems to me. They can’t seem to say great basketball player. It’s got to be great white basketball player like that has anything to do with it. If you said anything similar about any other demographic it’s a huge media display of virtue signaling but you can be disrespectful and everyone jokes around as long as the player is white. And even white guys make fun of it…which makes me think…this narrative is false.
I feel bad for what's happened to the back people in america. During the 40's -60's the were respectable, intelligent men, and now they're racist and dumb. The modern culture just promotes foolish, ignorant behavior.
As I grew up a Jazz fan, I hated the Rockets and especially Hakeem. There was no live for the Spurs either. Those were some real battles between all 3 teams. I would take any of those 3 teams in the mid 90’s against any of the teams today. Now I look back with respect towards the Rockets and Spurs of the 90’s and wish that quality of basketball was being played again. Hakeem and Robinson both get overlooked now as great centers. Stockton was the man too and I would take him over any point guard today.
Hated Stockton as a Laker fan but gotta give him credit. Not a weakness in his game. Most underrated PG of all time. Deserves to be considered amongst the best at his position. Has the records to prove it
Imagine him on the Lakers in the 80s and 90s
That spot's taken, does the name Magic, ring a bell?
@@HIMCULES you missed the point
@@puppethound so what is the point
@@HIMCULES the point is how many rings would Stockton have if he played for the Lakers how many rings would magic have if he played for the jazz
@@aaronwright6340 zero because he is too short.
stockton would bully steph
He would make him a 6th man
Probably one of my 5 favorite players ever. And again, the most atractive feature of his game was the way you could see his defensive and offensive IQ. He's definitely in my top 3 of PG as well.
I love John Stockton as a kid. I never saw Magic or Zeke play, but I was able to watch John. He is number 1 PG for me, number 2 is JKidd, and Number 3 is the Glove. The greatest pass-first PG for me.
This video is gold thank you
It's nice to see Stockton getting some love. There is so much recency bias in the game today. Some of that is due to getting to sell audiences that James is better than top 5, but they underrate ALL the all-time guys who didn't play from 2002 on. It's really sad