Yamaha Ténéré 700 / T7 /
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- @motogeo Ride Review and 1st Impressions of the new Yamaha Ténéré 700 / T7 on and off-road test, to see what this new middleweight adventure machine is capable of.
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What, no burger? Come on!
Great review Jamie. Take a look at Ryan F9's T7 video for some suspension / weight distribution info.
This is just such a fantastic review. Haven't seen any adventure bike reviews covering these kind of off road circumstances. Had one of the first Yamaha Ténéré 600's in the nineties. Eventually put some motocross tires on it. Rode them in the dirt and on the road. Such a great bike. The Ténéré 700 is so much more capable of handling the dirt stuff.
This would be the ideal bike to keep with my Harley.
Best review of Tenere i have seen on the internet. Well done Sir! Great talking with great riding. Thank you.
Yamaha have created an instant icon; its based on a well known and reliable power plant and it's got no tech to go wrong. It'll last for years.
One of the best example of the "if it looks good, it is good" philosophy! I love the retro Dakar twin look and I keep hearing great things about them overall. Great street legs, comfort and manners with decent off road ability...although obviously not an extreme enduro mount!
With the Tenere 660, Yamaha had a great bike on their hands for years, they use their racing experience and bring it to the bike builds, the MT-07 donor engine and clean sheet build is a winner. It just needs the suspension internals specced up for hard off-road use.
Awesome seeing my future bike on some of my local trails!
I’m glad you’re still producing content.
Excellent video! The commentary while you were riding spoke volumes how felt about the bike. Is there going to be a second half to this, part 2?. I’m hoping to receive mine in a couple of weeks. Keep up the great work!.
I am definitely getting it, it has proven itself!
best review of the T7, a riding review with lots of technical talk. Comparing it to no nonsense type Adv bikes is exactly what most are looking for.
Nice one, thanks for taking us along!
Damn, that's a lot more technical then I would have thought you can take an adventure bike!
Sweet video! Great riding 👍
Hmmm, the last time I got this excited by a bike review video it ended up costing a lot of money...
hahahaha don't you dare watch Ducati reviews then...
That's because you bought KTM.
@@istra70 ha, not quite, if I’d bought a KTM it would be all caps LOTS and LOTS of money :)
@@geekskates and repairs...
I got the first of two in Oregon! I love it! I also have Super Tenere and they complement each other! Great review as always!
You’re the guy to talk to then. I also have an S10 because it can go off road but almost as important that it’s comfy two up.
Total weight is only 300 for the two of us, but I want her to be comfy for longer rides.
Keep the S10 for long rides Two up and the T7 for solo off road adventures! Or t7 two up for short Adventures. It doesn't have the wind protection that the S10 has. It's a great small off road Adv Bike. S10 great Hwy burner with some off road thrown in.
Slim, agile, more than enough power and not overpriced like its European rivals. What’s not to like about the T7?
it's no ducati ;)
Electronics, suspension, took too long to market, and all the T7s for North America are sold out?
Can buy KTM1090R for $2,000 more in Australia. The T7 is overpriced for what it is.
Sadly, I think the price varies a lot depending on the market. It’s within about 1000$ of the 790 here in Canada. Still a good bike, and here in Canada, dealerships are already sitting on unsold stock from what I can see. I’ll likely buy a leftover.
@@Shibby13499431 Yeah, I always go for the previous financial year runout sales. Sometimes $5,000 less for a brand new bike.
Definitely my next bike.
Unless Honda brings out that AT 850 real soon
Honda had it's shot too heavy nowhere near nimble enough and to clever where I go I need simple less to break or BMW roadside assistance
@Wayne Smith why not the Suzuki DR650?
The Honda will be :
- Heavier
- More electronics
- More expensive
- In a weird place between KTM790/ Yam T700 and the BMWs
If the 790 did not have so many little problems reported and a clearly bad design at the right footpeg => cracked engine (and before the fanboys jump on me, the problem is documented and aftermarket part exists to minimise the weak point) I would buy it.
Now for the price of the KTM I can seriously outfit my future T700 with top suspension, Ecu mapping, aftermarket exhaust line, power commander, self JumpStart lithium battery, crashbars, proper tires etc... You get the jizz.
The Yam is still new but the engine is so reliable. You do not hear as much problems as KTM owners from the forum. I know a couple of French motorcycle journalist and mechanics who drove cape north to Angola (stopped by covid19) on stock t700 for fundraising. They were super impressed and never questioned the reliability. Only broken stuff were due to falls . I have a 2004 450 wrf in Senegal still going strong!!!never had any issues engine wise.
If you want a reliable engine off road, go Yamaha. They are the Toyota equivalent for reliability in hard terrain\conditions
Great review! Easy to ride along with you! Thanks! Ride safe my friend.
Dear Santa... perfect , love the rally format bikes.. 450 /700 range, to be nimble in the trails.
rumors of a 490 adventure R ;)
Great review, well handled 👍
Jamie, you suggested mid-size adventure bike for traveling, this one has everything you said: light weight, enough power and reliable. I think I'm gonna get one next spring/summer. Thanks for the advice.
I have to admit I’m not a massive fan of how the bike looks, I love the Honda AT though. Having said that I know this bike is going to be better for a RTW trip (easier to fix in the middle of nowhere). This is the first video - and I’ve watched loads of reviews of this bike - that made me actually want the T7. The things you did on it so easily really made me want one. Time to go shopping!
FortNine has an amazing review that diagrams out why it is so good off road.
For me the xt660z Tenere was way more capable to do a RTW right out the factory. I actually think the T7 drifted away from what it was. The T7 has a great engine but what happened to the 500km range? What happened to the pillion seat? No stock rack for a topbox? :( I want to cry.
Regain The Sane Tour. Remember, it’s 20% the bike and 80% the rider! Nice bike though.. Les
Awesome. I currently have a Honda CB500X and I like it a lot but it’ll be nice to switch to something a little more dirtbike-like that still performs well on the highway touring
Just a little work on the seat and get the in the right spot and it's in the absolutely delightful little road bike fully capable off-road
fantastic video - love the videos on this channel very informative
Great video review! You covered all the bases which is not easy when you can't go back and do it over again.
I want one!!!!
@jamie, another outstanding bike review. Thanks for discussing the tyres.
Very nice trail and great riding!
Great review...would love to know where in the San Bernadino's that is, both dirt and tarmac look epic!!
I went to the Largest Power Sports Dealer in Michigan .. several of the sales men had no idea what I was talking about when I asked if they had a Tenere 700 in yet ...
That's sad. They arnt ADV riders probably
Yeah, it amazes me how many of the salespersons I have to educate on the bikes I’m looking to buy. The profession ain’t what it used to be. If you find a good dealer with actual riders, it’s worth noting and trying to work with them.
I had the same experience in Ft Lauderdale, these power sports store are ran by high school drop outs, hard to buy a bike from people that don’t ride or give 2 shits about the bikes!! Why i love Ducati, people are Passionate!!!!
@@michaeljkasnter Yes it's sad when I know more about the Products than the sales Men do .. I have a 3 year old Yamaha FZ-07 and he was trying to get me to trade it in on a New MT-07. I went back the next day because I have been waiting over 3 weeks for a Speedometer now .. They don't contact me when the part is in .. If I call them I just get put on hold for 20 minutes then hung up on.. The people in parts have very low Morale and all of the good ones who had been there for a few years.. meaning they worked for the Previous Owners Husband and Wife who started the Business in 1968 .. have all quit.
So the next Day I said you must think Yamaha's are Junk if I should trade in every three years.. Then I aked him how mich he would give me on a Trade in for a bike with 0 miles on the Speedometer? Anyway I ahd told him I had hit a Deer.. I guess he thought I should trade in the bent up bike on a new one and not because I have 8,500 miles on it which I never told him how many miles I had on the bike ..
I showed him photos of the bike and the Deer after I hit the deer and I also had a photo of my odomter at
4,444 miles..
Same experience I’ve had at dealerships . I’m sure there are super knowledgeable salesman out there but most of them I’ve encounter can’t tell you anything about the bike but the price .
Great video, thanks. Do you remember what the revs were at 60 mph?
Got one and I love it neither an R1 or a YZ but 400 km yesterday morning in both sand and on bitumen it does everything in an easy relaxed manner. Does not need to become a money Pit just a couple of bits to take it in the direction you want,I should have a larger fuel tank in about a month . The never never is calling me again,those big open spaces will need a little more fuel about 450 kilometres between stops and I will be in heaven
To be fair I had a BMW f 800 GSA and I wore it out by riding it all over Australia. The Yamaha is not yet up to the mega mileage that I was able to do on the BM but I will get it there.
I'm addicted...lol awesome job mate
Great riding!
Years ago, you could get a dirt bike and a road bike. The Yamaha Ténéré 700 is one bike that ticks both boxes.
Great rewiew!
great review . nice spots
I can't wait to get one!!!
Great review
Great review mate 👍🏼 even though I'll rarely use it off road , I'm still seriously considering buying one. Wonder how it'll fare 2 up touring around Europe...
Uau man, thats my kind of ride. Where is it? Unfortunately Tenere 700 don't have come to Brazil yet.
Living next to the San Bernardino mountains a map of the trails you rode would be great
@MotoGeo, congrats, whrat a review, well done! Just a short question; I've got one and I feel very bad comfort on little holes on road, nasty road are really hard to ride sitting on the bike. My last bike, Tiger 800xcx was really more efficient on nasty road. I'd love to have your opinion on that.
From the factory it can't do everything a little tweak to your suspension you'll be ok but if you make it soft when you hit something hard it'll just blow straight through the stroke and bottom hard it's all a compromise
I am sure you can play around with the suspension and dial out any major issues. First try going a few clicks stiffer, compression and Pre-load, if its better, try a few more, worse and go the other way. Also, body position and throttle/rpm also makes a difference, so try a few different methods and see what works best.... Let me know how you get on? Good luck! Ride free, JR
Nice riding, nice specs and now I need to go check this out in person. Sounds to me like Yamaha did a perfect combo bike. I wonder if Honda is paying attention and can offer up a mini Africa Twin... let the battle begin.... Then Kawasaki gets into the mix and comes out with a 725 twin... Oh if only that were true maybe Suzuki would join in on the fun too.
Nice offroad riding. I'm torn between this and the KTM 790 and KTM 1090. I wanted a T7 years ago, but instead got my Husky501 which is excellent offroad . The ABS should remember especially for an offroad bike like this or you should be able to change the default behavior. Or at least change the code so its only a 1 second press...
@mld I just did a 400 miles on Wisconsin Trans America trails and my friend with his ktm 950 hung pretty easily with our 500's. Of course he's probably a much better rider than myself.
Sehr geiler Trail 👍 sowas hätte ich gerne in Deutschland ☝️
Bin ziemlich neidisch was bei euch in USA möglich ist
Gruß Michel
Can't wait to see them at the dealership
Excellent Review ....Tenere is best long distance adventure bike.
Jamie can you review the latest Royal Enfield Himalayan? I read that it has been refined and can be great both on and off road!
Good ride! Good review! I’m hoping to throw my leg over one.
Have you ridden the KTM 790 yet? Which one do you think is best?
Not reliable enough 4 Central Australia and no factory backup , BMW roadside assistance is a god-send to a solo traveller but in less remote country a very exciting motorcycle but I have bought a Yamaha so we'll see
790 is a more capable bike, but you are paying for that extra capability for $3k+. The T7 will undoubtedly be more reliable in the long run, and Yamaha parts are more readily available for much cheaper prices if you have something fail. Where the T7 falls flat is the suspension, great for on road, terrible in offroad. Yes it's soft and helps with offroad traction, but it's suspension travel is one of the shortest and the sag for most ppl without gear already eats up over 30% of that travel. It bottoms out easily even for a 200lb rider and it is not a cheap fix either. :/ That all being said over all I've moved from wanting a 690/790 to a T7. Despite it's downfalls i've been trying to research the best and cheapest way to tackle the suspension issues. I'm still hoping for an all more capable 490 adventure R to come out, and i've just learned about a possible honda africa twin 800 coming as well. So far my trigger finger is still on the T7 for now.
Great review Jamie, congrats! Could you tell me where the single track section shown on minute 11:08 ua-cam.com/video/F4UEEpWgObA/v-deo.html is located?
Just traded in my crappy 690 enduro for one of these babies. Love it.
I’m thinking about a 690, should I stay away? What year did you have?
I preferred the new Tiger 900 Rally Pro suspension much more, and wow, what an engine. Similar weight to the T7 as well.
Good review,if you were going to buy one would you choose the Ducati scrambler or the T7?
Ducati scrambler is a urban-street bike, with T7 you can cover a wide range of street/trails.. In summer time ducati is very hot, specially at traffic light stop and no wind protection on road. Two very diffent bikes.
Thank you Rex, I am fully aware that it isn’t apples to apples comparison. I just am just curious which one Mr. Robinson would choose if he could only have one.
Such a pretty bike
Never ridden a bike with a "long seat" like this. How comfortable is it on the sometimes inevitable long rides on the highway?
Would you keep your scrambler? how does it compare to Tenere 700?
Only problem I have with the bike is it’s wet weight. I was really hoping it was in the 370s lbs. area. Does seem like a modern KLR650 but better in every way.
Could one realistically replace a R1200GS and a DRZ-400 with one of these?
FortNine thinks so
Easily! A great combo bike, comfortable, very capable on the street, and brilliant off-road 👍👍
You could, but why would you want to? You sound like you have the perfect set-up.
yes, I have replaced a smaller dual-sport and a big ADV bike for a T7. It is a good compromise. I have the confidence to take almost anywhere, and its a pleasure to ride on the road.
How many burgers 🍔 out of 10 on the motogeo burger scale
You say you've ridden all of the adventure bikes, but i can't see a video with you on the KTM 790AdvR, have you done one?
Did you do any suspension adjustments for this ride, or stock set up?
Where in the San Bernardino mountains are these trails?
How does it feel off road compared to a KLR-650? Do you notice the extra weight of the T7?
Hmm trying to decide if I want to put a deposit down on one before being able to test drive it. They haven't come to any dealers near me yet.
Does it handle good (leaning a bit here and there), like the normal road bike on the roads with those knobby tyres??
Really better offroader compared to the Ducati desert sled? What's your opinion
I have a súper enduro 950 R de KTM upgraded ! With fuel injection and advanced WP suspensions ! The same that the KTM adv. Rally has! It's by now really really awesome! But! Anyway I stared being in love with the T7 ! If the Rally versión comes at least with suspensions more than 250 mm travel !
I'll Buy it with My eyes seriouslly really tight closed! 👌👍😁💪😁👍🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️👌👍😁💪
@mld sorry!! It is just like! A treasure for me!! And I think that I wouldn't sale it never .. ever!! I've got this bike for more than ten years! So ! I Will keep it anyway Even if I Buy the T7 Rally!
A friendly warm hug My friend!
@mld Anyway thank You for asking !!
So for adventure bikers who like to trail often, these new mid-range bikes will steal market share from the big GS’s and liter adventure bikes. For those who primarily road their adventure bikes but also want tractability off-road, one wonders if these bikes will begin to win over that market as well. As we seeing the end of the popularity of the big 1200’s?
I expect so I loved my GSA , BMW were fabulous and I hope they take the lead of Yamaha for a new 850 cos I will be straight back to BM for the dealer support
Where is this ride? I love it!
Ssn Bernadino
STEVE W-K ok so hot as blazes, got it
Awesome stuff 👍
Hi, can you tell me how much the engine rpm at 100 kms?
Ayyyeee he in San Bernardino whooopp super fly
I'm a little bigger than you. 210 lbs with no gear. Would you get stiffer springs and/or preload in the front right away?
you said its better than the ktm 790 offroad .....hard to believe but you said you had ridden "all" of them and this is best offroad, can't wait to try it..
If it helps it shits all over the 690 enduro. I just traded mine for the T7. No comparison 👍
job's a good one, mucker
Werner Herzog reviews bikes now?
I have a T7. Had it since September here in the UK, and while I love riding it, I don’t like looking at it and as a photographer that’s important to me. I’m leaning heavily towards a Scrambler Desert Sled. Good move or massive down step? On paper they are so so similar.
Wil Collins hi, having the same debate, just can’t get excited by the looks of the T7, sure it’s a great bike but the Sled just looks mega to me! Both run the same tyre! Probably an age thing. Too many great bikes to choose from, cheers, ps. Looking to retire to Cromer so looks some great byways Thetford way!
Nozzer 66 ye. Thetford is awesome for trails. You’ll enjoy it, as long as you can get along with Sand.
It’s all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I bought one last week and I like the look very much
I don't see it when I'm riding and I don't see my reflection in shop windows but that's just me we're all different scrambler is a road bike more than dirt the Yamaha is opposite
I have a Desert Sled. After tweaking the suspension, it's just great in the twisties. Lots of feel from the front end and nicely made as well.
This sounds like a great bike. It would be perfect if it had cross-spoke wheels.
Are they necessary? My bike has regular spokes, been abusing it on dirt bike trails for 16k kms. Rims are straight. Never trued, only tightened at random in the past
I agree totally , unnecessary but we all have a fetish and I'm sure with the basic bike like this you'll be able to make it into exactly what you want the aftermarket people will love it
Great video, do you think this is too much bike for a beginner?
No way
Tall beginner yes , the weight is quite high up.
No, not in my opinion. I think you should gain more experience before riding the T7. A great beginner bike is this machine: ua-cam.com/video/_tS4LHpY6cU/v-deo.html
MotoGeo You’re right Jamie, I have been eyeing that RE too, its a love and hate relationship I have with the look of the bike! Lol. I’ve also been looking that the Honda CB500x Rally Raid Edition, thoughts?
Appreciate the feedback.
Versys x 300 would be better for a beginner, or maybe a dual sport 250 if you ride more off-road than on road
What would you rather ride for the next 5 days off road the KLR 650? Or t7?
T7 👍
Enough said
You stated "best adv..." Does that include the 790 Adv?
Yeah the CP2 engine is better and got more low end torque for offroad
Yeah, because it will not break, nor need electronic parts, and at 72,000 miles you are just having valve clearances checked for the THIRD (3rd) time. Think about that for a minute. When you are in the middle of the Tenere or one of the Stans. This bike is not a toy, it is a game changing workhorse.
It doesn't look like the KTM 790 adventure has been tried yet and it would be interesting to hear his opinion; but we have to remember that is all it is. Test rides are a must before buying for yourself.
do you have a garmin ride info or how do I find this route?
If you want more agressive riding of the T7 be sure to check out Every Single Sunday's channel he's got one he's doing pretty technical stuff on!
ua-cam.com/video/z5CHXd0KT_A/v-deo.html
This compares to a KTM 790..?
How is this compare to the Africa Twin?
I need one!
Not one single review of the T7 has a pillion on it. Real life motorcycling sometimes includes a pasanger. Love the T7 but haven't been able to see one review.
True bro. I also want to know how I feel about riding with a passenger
My next bike in red please!
this is enduro? all motorcycles are good hear
I want the tenere rally edition but im poor 😭
I heard that it might not ever be available in the us...but not sire
It's only a few parts from the catalogue and a little paint just buy what you can afford
Best adv bike yet? maybe under $10,000
the only thing missing was a burger🍔
If Jamie thinks that’s the best dirt oriented adv bike he’s ridden, he needs to swing a leg over the 790R... 😂
Better than a KTM 790 Adventure R?
Depends on priorities
No nos mostraste ala moto!.... saludos
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MotoGeo gracias!!!!
I have just bought one and it's very disappointing to ride off road. Too top heavy and rear suspensions terrible at speeds over 15mph.
Try before you buy ...
I didn't and wish I had
So you're saying yours is for sale?
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White with red? Why?😕
Make it just white. Would look much better.