Hope this helps you out! Here are the links 5 lb Cylinder with case and Hose. bit.ly/3C3khR3 10 lb Cylinder with case and Hosebit.ly/4ff62qM 10lb no case no hose bit.ly/3YnQrOM Refillable 1 lb cylinders. amzn.to/40pGsei 2 pack. amzn.to/4f1UpDL Propane Refill Hose. amzn.to/3C040w2 Refill stand. amzn.to/3UucYrY 12' Propane Quick Connect(on-Board). bit.ly/3UsrRLm Blackstone Propane amzn.to/4fGETgD Etrailer Propane accessories. bit.ly/3TkfX63
Yeah that company you're using way overpriced I just looked and get one at Ace hardware for 50 or 60 bucks I don't know what they're doing with all that extra money paying for a 5 lb cylinder for 130 bucks geez are they made out of gold or something
Thanks... we carry a 5lb and 4 of the Flame King refillable 1lb. I fill them from one of our 20lbs at home before our travels. Keep all of the tanks in one milk crate with hoses.
As a volunteer at Oregon State campgrounds, it always breaks my heart to see all the 1 lb cylinders that just go in the trash - they can't even be recycled! Great information, Jared! (I have a refillable cylinder and refill kit)
I was at Walmart to get some 1# cylinders for a Bernzomatic 19425 JT850 Self-Igniting 20,000 BTU Outdoor Torch. I saw the Mr. Heater Fuel Keg and refill kit, and got those immediately. Sure, I have an extension hose for the propane outlet on my camper, but I need the bottle portability to use the torch to start my campfires.
I switched to an induction stove a long time ago. What a relief. With the current pricing on lithium batteries, it is not as huge an investment as it used to be. We have a small electric BBQ as well. Still, we carry a disposable propane cylinder with a small stove as a backup, but we have not used it in over a year.
We have a 9 lbs tank and it's one of the best things I've done to help with weight and room. Love that little tank and I've never emptied one in one summer using it for both the weber Q and the Blackstone!
My Dad was a propane gas man for 25 years. We had no money back in the 60’s but he had plenty of propane. He made an adapter to refill them from a 100 pound tank. I get the safety issues, etc. unless they changed them, the disposable ones have a valve just like a stem on a tire. You slightly unscrew it and it will bleed out once it is getting full. The only bummer with all propane tanks is they expire in 10 - 12 years. I have 20 lb tanks that literally look new, but they have long expired. It costs 50% as much as new to get them re-Certified. Nice video.
Wow, I need to ask Southern States to see what they charge. I just asked someone a while back that wouldn’t fill a 20lb tanks because it was out of date. Thanks for the tip. How are they re-Certified if I could ask?
@@jerrytalley802 We do an inspection on the tank to make sure it's in good condition, then fill it with vapor and then do a leak test opening and closing the main and spit valves to make sure they work and don't leak when closed. Weight on the scale helps you determine if a tank is full, the spit valve keeps you from over filling. A tag is applied to the tank collar with a new date. We are located in northern Michigan.
@@jerrytalley802I’ve had numerous bottles re-certed. They made sure the bottle was empty, and then installed a SMALL amount of propane, and then sprayed All of the exterior fittings, including inside of the hose connection, with that soapy stuff and were looking for any bubbles. No leaks/bubbles, it passed, if bubbles, the top valve gets replaced. I also have a hand held gas leak detector. It’s really handy to have when you smell mercaptan but don’t know where it’s leaking from. I’ve never had a problem in the rv, only 1 time with some of the Frankenstein’ed plumbing I’ve had to do around home.
@@KyleKAPI was told 10-12 years was the hydrostatic recertification period. Wouldn’t that mean they must be not just externally inspected, but also pressure tested?
Hey Jarred - Thanks (as always) for a great video. Another related topic that I’d love to see you cover in a future video: Use of the low-pressure, quick-connect line on the RV, and (specifically) which appliances work with that connector? I’ve been frustrated many times by the “double regulator” problem, not to mention the multitude of propane stove fittings that are out there. I would love to use our quick-connect for stoves, bbqs, fire pits, etc, alongside our trailer, but I swear every time I buy one, either the fitting is somehow different from the (growing!) collection of adapters I have, or it has an internal regulator and would thus require a major modification to work with the low-pressure LP gas line. A video with a list of appliances (stoves, barbecues, fire pits) that work with quick-connect (-without- requiring modification), and your recommendations for the “best of” those, would be very helpful! Keep up the great work!
Great video! I’ve been using the 1lb refillable canisters for about 5 years. I also have the hose that connects to my 20lb cylinder. I should get a 5lb cylinder for greater portability
That's interesting. How much do they charge? It's a $50 investment to buy two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and a fill kit, then after that I can fill a 20# tank at my locale Ace and fill my own tanks.
@ they charge $20 to $30 i believe for a full 1lb tank and $5 if that is a deposit you get back when you return empties or you can pay $20-25 for an exchange of a full one I’m not 100% sure on it as I was going to the hardware store for white gas for my Coleman lantern and stove
@spencerrodgers Wow. That sounds like an absolute rip off of I'm understanding that correctly. They're only $18 to buy on Amazon or anywhere else, then $30 for the fill kit. As long as you already have a big tank for a BBQ grill, that's it. My local Ace hardware fills 20lb tanks for $16.99.
We carry a couple of 1lbs Disposable Bottles, just because we once used them. (I should check dates to see if they are expired.) When camping, we do 90% plus of our cooking outside of our trailer. Therefore, for short (7 days or less) we take a 10 lbs tank, for longer we carry a 20 lbs. They are just normal Propane Tanks that we picked up at Canadian Tire. They can be filled at any bulk supply company. The one thing I have found in Ontario, is that most Suppliers charge a Flat Rate based on the size of your tank. We have learned that Costgo weigh each tank and charges you by the Litre. MUCH cheaper!! Most summer I can fill both tanks at the beginning of the season and they will not run out. I then use them as back-up for my BBQ at home.
The option of using your own board propane would be much preferable to me. Takes a little more forethought and work up front but after you got it figured out it should be the easiest method.
@@WindsorStinks If this moves beyond single use cannisters in California in 2028, I'll worry about it. The 20 lb tank was an upgrade from the small green ones, 4 years back.
I just bought a portable propane heater for my small travel trailer and had planned for now just using the 1lb cylinders. The idea of the refillable ones sounded great, but I would have to carry an extra 20 lb tank just to refill them. I opted for a 5 lb , so I could have it refilled at any propane refiller .
Thanks for the information, I've been hoping they would ban those disposable propane bottles for decades, refilling is easier or do what I did is get rid of every single thing that is propane and getting all electric coach. I usually travel to high altitude locations where the propane barely works anyway.
We are getting propane at $2.50 a gl. We bought four of the new tanks. I love it. But with the Mr. Buddy, you need to have a filter. That inner corrosive coating, will clog the Mr buddy. We have 4 new tanks, and love them.
We have a Grand Design Reflection which is plumbed for propane. I believe this is is something Grand Design adds to at least the Reflection if not their other rigs. So much better than carrying the 1# bottles. We have friends who spent $$$$ on a really nice rig but there isn't any outside connections and they are going to have to add this if they want to use their RV's tanks. Probably a good idea to ask the sales person if they are standard and if not have them add the propane connections before they drive off the lot.
This is great. I hope it happens in WA state soon. It will drive down the cost of the small refillable bottles that are now stupid expensive for adding a small valve. Refilling is great.
The small use with these cylinders. Is why I bought a old Colman stove . Fuel was $8.00 per gallon. Then the supplier got greedy. Went to $12 .00. I weed it to gas at. ,$3.00+ per gallon.
Look for this to go nationwide. What set California off is every can that is recycled has to have any remaining propane removed. Then the can has to have a hole drilled in it. Then it’s crushed and melted. Many recyclers aren’t taking them anymore because they cost more to process than they’re worth. California generates 13 million of them a year.
I haven't used them for years. In fact, I don't think I have ever bought one of the small green cylinders. I always use a 20lb tank with an adapter and hose. Much cheaper.
One thing that might bite you with these smaller containers... a lot of the refill places near me charge a minimum fill fee, meaning it could cost $25 or more to fill one of these smaller containers. IMHO it's definably worth investing in the tools to refill you own. ...or you can be a retro wacko like me and still use good old white gas camping gear. A can of camping fuel lasts a loooooonng time.
FYI - Flame King Refillable 1LB Empty Propane C$63. I use a 20# with hose with certified Big Buddy (green) hose...much cheaper. No oil filter required.
No need to worry about any of this, propane will be banned totally soon too. In CA you can no longer buy a motor home - soon it will be any V8 or larger. Won't be able to tow with anything as that cuts your MPG way under Gav's liberal limits - unless its an electric truck that will get 20 miles of range. I am sure in 30 years there will be superchargers at every spot in every campground though, just in time to realize that electric is not the answer. You will stay home and only cook tofu on your electric range - and you will like it. Unless of course, Trump can find a way to shut down this insanity. Otherwise, I hope your memories last so we can tell our grandkids what the world used to be like when we were actually free.
Read the label on the Disposable propane bottle again. Are you sure it doesn't say you cannot sell them and you cannot ship them by common carrier. That means you can take them along in your own vehicle
I just got two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and like them. I thought about getting a 5lb, but i dont think they're that much more convenient than a bigger tank and they're expensive.
Small ones are still legal BUT they have to be refillable. That will ultimately be cheaper to refill. People probably can get a bigger one like a 5 or 10, 20 gal for home and refill their own.
We had a coleman that used them but it never really did the job and then we had this non recyclable thing. We now have a range that we hook to one of our 20 lb tanks and cooking is much better. I hated to get those green things and then throw into the trash, but no more.
Do you have to refill yourself? I wonder if a propane store will do for me? I’m so happy to learn about these refillables. I’ve been wanting to get a propane heater and stove for winter power out emergency and dreading contributing to landfill. But hopefully will not use many tanks, just need to have in prep supplies.
I don't think a normal propane filling station has the connections to directly fill the 1 pound tanks. IMO you are better off using a larger 10 or 20 pound cylinder for what you want anyway. You just need a 15 dollar hose to connect a coleman stove to a larger tank and there are a bunch of propane heaters that are actually designed to sit on top of a 20 pound tank.
I use a 10lb propane tank and purchased an extra Mopeka tank sensor. I just added it to the phone app and labeled it “Grille”. The app shows both RV tanks and the grille.
No only is it a fine to transport the non refillable ones after refilling, it also the same for filling them. The "valve" on the top of the refillable one is called a splitter valve and let's you know when the liquid level is has reached 80% which is the legal limit
Thanks for the informative video. One unanswered question though, can you take the small refillable cylinders to propane sellers and have them refill them?
I refill the green ones. I use a scale, and I’m usually between 15.9oz - 1.2lbs. I have tanks (30) I’ve been using since 2021. They usually get filled 2-3x a year. No problems yet. No signs of rust on the interior. Thicker walls? Ok. I’ve had tanks sit for years before I used them. I have thought about investing in the refillable type.
Jared, good video. But my question is, I noticed your 17” Blackstone in the video you added a lid to it. Where did you get the lid? I haven’t seen one with that lid that has the hinges on the back. Thanks Jim
Why didn't they make those things exchangeable from the beginning, pay a deposit up front and just exchange for a full one when it's empty. I went the 5lb route myself and have ordered the refillable bottles too. Only a couple things I use the one pounders for.
I purchased one of the quick connect hoses for our blackstone, and I'm not getting the pressure I get with the smaller bottles. The quick connect doesn't have a regulator, and I'm not sure if the quick connect on our camper was ever used, we are the third owners of this camper. Any ideas on why I'm not getting the same pressure?
Two things it could be. Is there a regulator on the blackstone? If so you can’t have that and get good pressure. You have to remove it when using on board propane because it is already regulated. Second is I have seen failing regulators on the RV that need to be replaced that restrict proper flow.
@AllAboutRVs Unless it's inline, there is no regulator on the blackstone, and now that you mentiin it, I do notice that it takes quite a while for the rv fridge to get cold running on propane. If the rv regulator is bad will it also cause this issue?
So how do we transport a larger propane tank on a motorhome? I have an all electric MH, and I use the 1 lb bottles because they are supposedly safer to transport. My storage bays aren’t vented, and I’ve seen horror stories about propane off gassing and then exploding when the compartment isn’t vented.
You can put a highway-safety-rated carry cage on the back of your camper. Your local RV dealer attaches it usually to an underbody frame point that usually has two weld points on that frame designed for welding attachments to OR the more modern trailers already have a 2 inch trailer receiver in the back for attaching bike racks, tank cages or camp gear carrier cages, etc. In my case, I usually carry TWO of the 100 lbs propane tanks on the back lockable and soft-cover winter-insulated carrier cage which is enough to power the heating system, cooking stove, water heater and the onboard propane-powered generator for WEEKS on end! For a typical 3000 watts generator output enough to power your 1000 watt induction stove, a 1000 watt microwave oven and portable 750 watt water heater running about two to four hours per day and during the night my four high-efficiency ceramic space heaters (250 watts each) for those 12-hour cold winter nights, those two tanks will last as long as 4 weeks in the dead of winter! In the summer, it will last quite a bit longer! V
got a question for you on inverters for running a residential fridge just while traveling on the road. We have a 2021 Keystone Cougar Half Ton with all the bells and whistles. solar, on-command system and a Sinewave 1200-watt inverter all prewired with the disconnect switch. Problem is we are getting rid of the Dometic fridge and installing a residential one. The outlet to plug in the fridge is shore power only but there is a hot wire inside the cabinet to wire up the existing outlet for the inverted dc to ac power. will this work or will this impact the other electrical systems? I could just run an extension cord but I would have to cut holes somewhere to get one in the cabinet? any suggestions
@@paulvanderborgt5581 check out the UA-cam and Amazon non-paid reviews and then take a peek at the actual product at your local store. You will notice a marked difference in quality and ease of filling. I had been refilling the colemans for years and was skeptical until I saw the actual Fuel Keg at the Tractor Supply. I then decided to pull the trigger because the colemans were not really lasting that long, plus the legalities and possible hazards, the initial cost is recovered after a couple of trips...But that's just me, go find out for yourself, I am pretty sure you will agree. No, I don't live in commiefornia....
@@paulvanderborgt5581 for me it wasn't so much the "legal" but rather the ability to utilize the full capacity of the refillable cylinder vs the used up coleman. BIG difference between the two. The colemans will refill up only so much, and always dependent on the remaining pressure of the larger cylinder.... the "legal" portion is a bonus. Seriously, go check them out at your local distributor, I think you'll appreciate them. If not, nothing lost. :-)
I have the same Coleman dual burner stove shown in the video. I tried to transition everything I have to use the quick connect fittings so I could just use the onboard RV propane. The problem with this stove is that the regulator is built into the connector. Has anyone found a solution to avoid the dual regulator? The part that screws into the stove appears to be proprietary.
@photonoah The solution that I use is that I have a propane quick disconnect that connects into my onboard propane before the regulator so I have a high pressure propane line that I can tap into that I actually put a 10 psi regulator on that so I run 10 psi in the hose which then connects to any device that has a built-in regulator and that steps it down in the second stage and it works flawlessly it's more expensive and you have to have somebody that knows what they're doing set it up but I used to work for a propane company doing installations and deliveries so I had the training and the resources but if you go to a propane company they should be able to sell you the fittings and maybe even do the installation
Not a good idea to "insulate" a propane bottle during cold weather. The bottle needs to draw whatever heat it can find from the ambient air in order for the propane to change from liquid to a gas. They actually sell propane tank heaters to warm the bottles up during cold snaps.
I seen that old Gavin’s name on the ban ! And I am sure that California folks will follow . But at this time I think I am not going to follow any thing that has old Gavin’s name on it ! But I do say thank you sir for the good info and the awesome job you did at presenting it !
Do not refill disposible cylinders that is dangerous. The refillable cylinders have a bleed valve that is used during refilling. This is true for all states.
Thank goodness some states are forward thinking. Reusable helps all of us and is actually more cost effective long term plus keeps things out of the landfills which I suspect you don't want in your neighborhood. You must have a problem efficiency and lack of waste.
Urgh. Not opposed to the ban but not in an rv. I’m car camping so space is at a premium. Maybe I should just upgrade my power station and get an induction cook top
When calculating the break-even point between disposable 1-lb. cans and the refillable one, you forgot to factor in the half-million dollar fine and five-year prison term for refilling a disposable can. That in and of itself makes the refillable can the biggest bargain ever.
Doesn’t effect me, ford Lightning with pro power on board, Induction stove top Inferred electric rotisserie barbecue Electric kettle Convection microwave oven Ecoflow wave 2 heat pump
Hope this helps you out! Here are the links
5 lb Cylinder with case and Hose. bit.ly/3C3khR3
10 lb Cylinder with case and Hosebit.ly/4ff62qM
10lb no case no hose bit.ly/3YnQrOM
Refillable 1 lb cylinders. amzn.to/40pGsei
2 pack. amzn.to/4f1UpDL
Propane Refill Hose. amzn.to/3C040w2
Refill stand. amzn.to/3UucYrY
12' Propane Quick Connect(on-Board). bit.ly/3UsrRLm
Blackstone Propane amzn.to/4fGETgD
Etrailer Propane accessories. bit.ly/3TkfX63
Yeah that company you're using way overpriced I just looked and get one at Ace hardware for 50 or 60 bucks I don't know what they're doing with all that extra money paying for a 5 lb cylinder for 130 bucks geez are they made out of gold or something
Wow. The title is a lie. They are not banning 1lb propane canisters. They are requiring them to be refillable. You are a liar and a cheat.
Been using the same 5lb cylinder for the past 2 years and love it!!!
You’re the best when it comes to the consumer for RV info. Hands down the most
Informative. Thanks again. God bless 🙏🏼⛺️👍🏼
Thanks... we carry a 5lb and 4 of the Flame King refillable 1lb. I fill them from one of our 20lbs at home before our travels. Keep all of the tanks in one milk crate with hoses.
As a volunteer at Oregon State campgrounds, it always breaks my heart to see all the 1 lb cylinders that just go in the trash - they can't even be recycled! Great information, Jared! (I have a refillable cylinder and refill kit)
I also camphost in Oregon and completely agree with you.
@@philsmith5400 I've found that you can recycle them, but they have to have a hole in them.
I know of front country campgrounds in national parks that have designated recycle bins for these cylinders. So they can be recycled.
They can be recycled.
Your channel is synonymous with Trust. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. 👍👍
I was at Walmart to get some 1# cylinders for a Bernzomatic 19425 JT850 Self-Igniting 20,000 BTU Outdoor Torch. I saw the Mr. Heater Fuel Keg and refill kit, and got those immediately. Sure, I have an extension hose for the propane outlet on my camper, but I need the bottle portability to use the torch to start my campfires.
Good to know what options we will be able to choose from.
I switched to an induction stove a long time ago. What a relief. With the current pricing on lithium batteries, it is not as huge an investment as it used to be. We have a small electric BBQ as well. Still, we carry a disposable propane cylinder with a small stove as a backup, but we have not used it in over a year.
Which brand did you get? I’m hoping for a better electric cooktop option. I may trade in my blackstone for a simple electric griddle. :-)
@ stove is Xiaomi. BBQ is from Australian Kickass.
We have a 9 lbs tank and it's one of the best things I've done to help with weight and room. Love that little tank and I've never emptied one in one summer using it for both the weber Q and the Blackstone!
My Dad was a propane gas man for 25 years. We had no money back in the 60’s but he had plenty of propane. He made an adapter to refill them from a 100 pound tank. I get the safety issues, etc. unless they changed them, the disposable ones have a valve just like a stem on a tire. You slightly unscrew it and it will bleed out once it is getting full. The only bummer with all propane tanks is they expire in 10 - 12 years. I have 20 lb tanks that literally look new, but they have long expired. It costs 50% as much as new to get them re-Certified. Nice video.
That's too bad about your re-cert costs, the plant I work at only charges $5 dollars with a fill.
Wow, I need to ask Southern States to see what they charge. I just asked someone a while back that wouldn’t fill a 20lb tanks because it was out of date. Thanks for the tip. How are they re-Certified if I could ask?
@@jerrytalley802 We do an inspection on the tank to make sure it's in good condition, then fill it with vapor and then do a leak test opening and closing the main and spit valves to make sure they work and don't leak when closed. Weight on the scale helps you determine if a tank is full, the spit valve keeps you from over filling. A tag is applied to the tank collar with a new date. We are located in northern Michigan.
@@jerrytalley802I’ve had numerous bottles re-certed. They made sure the bottle was empty, and then installed a SMALL amount of propane, and then sprayed All of the exterior fittings, including inside of the hose connection, with that soapy stuff and were looking for any bubbles. No leaks/bubbles, it passed, if bubbles, the top valve gets replaced. I also have a hand held gas leak detector. It’s really handy to have when you smell mercaptan but don’t know where it’s leaking from. I’ve never had a problem in the rv, only 1 time with some of the Frankenstein’ed plumbing I’ve had to do around home.
@@KyleKAPI was told 10-12 years was the hydrostatic recertification period. Wouldn’t that mean they must be not just externally inspected, but also pressure tested?
Hey Jarred - Thanks (as always) for a great video. Another related topic that I’d love to see you cover in a future video: Use of the low-pressure, quick-connect line on the RV, and (specifically) which appliances work with that connector? I’ve been frustrated many times by the “double regulator” problem, not to mention the multitude of propane stove fittings that are out there. I would love to use our quick-connect for stoves, bbqs, fire pits, etc, alongside our trailer, but I swear every time I buy one, either the fitting is somehow different from the (growing!) collection of adapters I have, or it has an internal regulator and would thus require a major modification to work with the low-pressure LP gas line.
A video with a list of appliances (stoves, barbecues, fire pits) that work with quick-connect (-without- requiring modification), and your recommendations for the “best of” those, would be very helpful!
Keep up the great work!
Great video! I’ve been using the 1lb refillable canisters for about 5 years. I also have the hose that connects to my 20lb cylinder. I should get a 5lb cylinder for greater portability
The only thing I feel you forgot to mention was to flip the source tank slowly as some have a safety that will close if the tank flips too fast.
Been using the 1 gal LP tank for 15 years or more. Definitely the way to go. I carry two, because I run out of fuel while cooking a lot.
Nice tips and options that I didn’t know existed. Thanks!
I use a hose like yours for filling my pounders. I never thought to drain the liquid propane back into the big tank. Thanks for the tip.
Please keep the videos coming. I have learned so much! Stay well!
A local hardware store in my town sells full 1lb reusable propane bottles and offers exchanges on them too witch I thing is really awesome
That's interesting. How much do they charge? It's a $50 investment to buy two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and a fill kit, then after that I can fill a 20# tank at my locale Ace and fill my own tanks.
@ they charge $20 to $30 i believe for a full 1lb tank and $5 if that is a deposit you get back when you return empties or you can pay $20-25 for an exchange of a full one I’m not 100% sure on it as I was going to the hardware store for white gas for my Coleman lantern and stove
@spencerrodgers Wow. That sounds like an absolute rip off of I'm understanding that correctly. They're only $18 to buy on Amazon or anywhere else, then $30 for the fill kit. As long as you already have a big tank for a BBQ grill, that's it. My local Ace hardware fills 20lb tanks for $16.99.
We carry a couple of 1lbs Disposable Bottles, just because we once used them. (I should check dates to see if they are expired.)
When camping, we do 90% plus of our cooking outside of our trailer. Therefore, for short (7 days or less) we take a 10 lbs tank, for longer we carry a 20 lbs. They are just normal Propane Tanks that we picked up at Canadian Tire. They can be filled at any bulk supply company. The one thing I have found in Ontario, is that most Suppliers charge a Flat Rate based on the size of your tank. We have learned that Costgo weigh each tank and charges you by the Litre. MUCH cheaper!!
Most summer I can fill both tanks at the beginning of the season and they will not run out. I then use them as back-up for my BBQ at home.
The option of using your own board propane would be much preferable to me. Takes a little more forethought and work up front but after you got it figured out it should be the easiest method.
Always great videos with helpful information. Thanks!
Another outstanding video, my friend!
We have a 20 lb lp tank, a splitter, and a tabletop grill and Blackstone. Easy peasy.
Soon 20lb will be banned. You'll need to spend more to upgrade to the new version.
@@WindsorStinks If this moves beyond single use cannisters in California in 2028, I'll worry about it. The 20 lb tank was an upgrade from the small green ones, 4 years back.
@@WindsorStinks Only the "sale" not the "use" is being banned. If I come to California from Oregon with a green bottle it wont be illegal.
@shaynejenkins446 For now. We are sliding down that slippery slope.
I just bought a portable propane heater for my small travel trailer and had planned for now just using the 1lb cylinders. The idea of the refillable ones sounded great, but I would have to carry an extra 20 lb tank just to refill them. I opted for a 5 lb , so I could have it refilled at any propane refiller .
Thanks for the information, I've been hoping they would ban those disposable propane bottles for decades, refilling is easier or do what I did is get rid of every single thing that is propane and getting all electric coach. I usually travel to high altitude locations where the propane barely works anyway.
We are getting propane at $2.50 a gl. We bought four of the new tanks. I love it. But with the Mr. Buddy, you need to have a filter. That inner corrosive coating, will clog the Mr buddy. We have 4 new tanks, and love them.
We have a Grand Design Reflection which is plumbed for propane. I believe this is is something Grand Design adds to at least the Reflection if not their other rigs. So much better than carrying the 1# bottles. We have friends who spent $$$$ on a really nice rig but there isn't any outside connections and they are going to have to add this if they want to use their RV's tanks. Probably a good idea to ask the sales person if they are standard and if not have them add the propane connections before they drive off the lot.
This is great. I hope it happens in WA state soon. It will drive down the cost of the small refillable bottles that are now stupid expensive for adding a small valve. Refilling is great.
The small use with these cylinders. Is why I bought a old Colman stove . Fuel was $8.00 per gallon. Then the supplier got greedy. Went to $12 .00. I weed it to gas at. ,$3.00+ per gallon.
Etrailer is an awesome company to deal with.
Does not affect me, because I fased out and banned California 2 decades ago. No amount of money could get me to go there. (I lived there for 12 years)
No one cares
It willl affect you eventually as what happens in California will almost always reach many other states.
4th generation Californian here, left in 2016. Best decision ever.
@@jcontoniodon't be mad.
Look for this to go nationwide. What set California off is every can that is recycled has to have any remaining propane removed. Then the can has to have a hole drilled in it. Then it’s crushed and melted. Many recyclers aren’t taking them anymore because they cost more to process than they’re worth. California generates 13 million of them a year.
I haven't used them for years. In fact, I don't think I have ever bought one of the small green cylinders. I always use a 20lb tank with an adapter and hose. Much cheaper.
One thing that might bite you with these smaller containers... a lot of the refill places near me charge a minimum fill fee, meaning it could cost $25 or more to fill one of these smaller containers. IMHO it's definably worth investing in the tools to refill you own.
...or you can be a retro wacko like me and still use good old white gas camping gear. A can of camping fuel lasts a loooooonng time.
FYI - Flame King Refillable 1LB Empty Propane C$63.
I use a 20# with hose with certified Big Buddy (green) hose...much cheaper. No oil filter required.
Great video. We are newbies and enjoy your videos
Well done !!!
Very informative !!!
No need to worry about any of this, propane will be banned totally soon too. In CA you can no longer buy a motor home - soon it will be any V8 or larger. Won't be able to tow with anything as that cuts your MPG way under Gav's liberal limits - unless its an electric truck that will get 20 miles of range. I am sure in 30 years there will be superchargers at every spot in every campground though, just in time to realize that electric is not the answer.
You will stay home and only cook tofu on your electric range - and you will like it. Unless of course, Trump can find a way to shut down this insanity. Otherwise, I hope your memories last so we can tell our grandkids what the world used to be like when we were actually free.
Great current information Gered. - Thanks - Cheers!
Good information. Thank you!
Read the label on the Disposable propane bottle again. Are you sure it doesn't say you cannot sell them and you cannot ship them by common carrier. That means you can take them along in your own vehicle
when i leave the rv park i always stop and pick up the green one pound bottles
i have the kit to refill them!
I just got two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and like them.
I thought about getting a 5lb, but i dont think they're that much more convenient than a bigger tank and they're expensive.
Nice. I have been using the green tanks for a few years. When I fell them, I use a scale so I know how much I have in the bottle for sure.
Small ones are still legal BUT they have to be refillable. That will ultimately be cheaper to refill. People probably can get a bigger one like a 5 or 10, 20 gal for home and refill their own.
We had a coleman that used them but it never really did the job and then we had this non recyclable thing. We now have a range that we hook to one of our 20 lb tanks and cooking is much better. I hated to get those green things and then throw into the trash, but no more.
Do you have to refill yourself? I wonder if a propane store will do for me? I’m so happy to learn about these refillables. I’ve been wanting to get a propane heater and stove for winter power out emergency and dreading contributing to landfill. But hopefully will not use many tanks, just need to have in prep supplies.
I don't think a normal propane filling station has the connections to directly fill the 1 pound tanks. IMO you are better off using a larger 10 or 20 pound cylinder for what you want anyway. You just need a 15 dollar hose to connect a coleman stove to a larger tank and there are a bunch of propane heaters that are actually designed to sit on top of a 20 pound tank.
Thx!
I use a 10lb propane tank and purchased an extra Mopeka tank sensor. I just added it to the phone app and labeled it “Grille”. The app shows both RV tanks and the grille.
No only is it a fine to transport the non refillable ones after refilling, it also the same for filling them.
The "valve" on the top of the refillable one is called a splitter valve and let's you know when the liquid level is has reached 80% which is the legal limit
Legit question. If you refill a non-refillable and "drive" somewhere with it, how can they prove you refilled it and broke the law?
Guess what Gavin Newsom has stock in.
Useful info, thank you.
We stopped using much propane n bought electric grill. Most always have electric at the sites.
I switched to a 20lb tank for my little weber grill and it lasts me a long time
Nice video Thanks for the info
Thanks for the informative video. One unanswered question though, can you take the small refillable cylinders to propane sellers and have them refill them?
I refill the green ones. I use a scale, and I’m usually between 15.9oz - 1.2lbs. I have tanks (30) I’ve been using since 2021. They usually get filled 2-3x a year. No problems yet. No signs of rust on the interior. Thicker walls? Ok. I’ve had tanks sit for years before I used them. I have thought about investing in the refillable type.
Gas is 75% efficient outside of an enclosed area
Using solar and an induction cooktop two burner Is 98% efficient inside or outside?
If you're 20lb tank is under pressure, does it really work to drain propane from the hose back into the tank after filling the 1lb containers?
Sure. The hose is at pressure, too.
Wear did you get your black stone cover/lid
Jared, good video. But my question is, I noticed your 17” Blackstone in the video you added a lid to it. Where did you get the lid? I haven’t seen one with that lid that has the hinges on the back. Thanks Jim
Why didn't they make those things exchangeable from the beginning, pay a deposit up front and just exchange for a full one when it's empty. I went the 5lb route myself and have ordered the refillable bottles too. Only a couple things I use the one pounders for.
Points at my behind and says enough said towards newsom
I purchased one of the quick connect hoses for our blackstone, and I'm not getting the pressure I get with the smaller bottles.
The quick connect doesn't have a regulator, and I'm not sure if the quick connect on our camper was ever used, we are the third owners of this camper.
Any ideas on why I'm not getting the same pressure?
Two things it could be. Is there a regulator on the blackstone? If so you can’t have that and get good pressure. You have to remove it when using on board propane because it is already regulated. Second is I have seen failing regulators on the RV that need to be replaced that restrict proper flow.
@AllAboutRVs Unless it's inline, there is no regulator on the blackstone, and now that you mentiin it, I do notice that it takes quite a while for the rv fridge to get cold running on propane. If the rv regulator is bad will it also cause this issue?
So how do we transport a larger propane tank on a motorhome? I have an all electric MH, and I use the 1 lb bottles because they are supposedly safer to transport. My storage bays aren’t vented, and I’ve seen horror stories about propane off gassing and then exploding when the compartment isn’t vented.
You can put a highway-safety-rated carry cage on the back of your camper. Your local RV dealer attaches it usually to an underbody frame point that usually has two weld points on that frame designed for welding attachments to OR the more modern trailers already have a 2 inch trailer receiver in the back for attaching bike racks, tank cages or camp gear carrier cages, etc.
In my case, I usually carry TWO of the 100 lbs propane tanks on the back lockable and soft-cover winter-insulated carrier cage which is enough to power the heating system, cooking stove, water heater and the onboard propane-powered generator for WEEKS on end!
For a typical 3000 watts generator output enough to power your 1000 watt induction stove, a 1000 watt microwave oven and portable 750 watt water heater running about two to four hours per day and during the night my four high-efficiency ceramic space heaters (250 watts each) for those 12-hour cold winter nights, those two tanks will last as long as 4 weeks in the dead of winter! In the summer, it will last quite a bit longer!
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All things should be about you?
Thanks, but I have no issues refilling the green ones, even in goofy California.
got a question for you on inverters for running a residential fridge just while traveling on the road. We have a 2021 Keystone Cougar Half Ton with all the bells and whistles. solar, on-command system and a Sinewave 1200-watt inverter all prewired with the disconnect switch. Problem is we are getting rid of the Dometic fridge and installing a residential one. The outlet to plug in the fridge is shore power only but there is a hot wire inside the cabinet to wire up the existing outlet for the inverted dc to ac power. will this work or will this impact the other electrical systems? I could just run an extension cord but I would have to cut holes somewhere to get one in the cabinet? any suggestions
The Fuel Kegs are (IMO) a better system and very robust. Surprised that you did not mention them....great video.
Agree. The fuel kegs is the superior version of the two.
Curious... why? I've been refilling my Colemans (yeah, yeah) for years, but have been considering becoming "legal".
@@paulvanderborgt5581 check out the UA-cam and Amazon non-paid reviews and then take a peek at the actual product at your local store. You will notice a marked difference in quality and ease of filling. I had been refilling the colemans for years and was skeptical until I saw the actual Fuel Keg at the Tractor Supply. I then decided to pull the trigger because the colemans were not really lasting that long, plus the legalities and possible hazards, the initial cost is recovered after a couple of trips...But that's just me, go find out for yourself, I am pretty sure you will agree. No, I don't live in commiefornia....
@@paulvanderborgt5581 for me it wasn't so much the "legal" but rather the ability to utilize the full capacity of the refillable cylinder vs the used up coleman. BIG difference between the two. The colemans will refill up only so much, and always dependent on the remaining pressure of the larger cylinder.... the "legal" portion is a bonus. Seriously, go check them out at your local distributor, I think you'll appreciate them. If not, nothing lost. :-)
Do the refillable cylinders hold as much propane as the disposable?
I would wear heavy rubber coated glove, that stuff comes out of the tank -44 and it burns, I know! Lol
I have two of the light green refillable 1 lb cylinders. My only complaint is that they seem to slowly leak over the months.
I prefer any tank having a gauge inline.
Great content; new sub here.
I have the same Coleman dual burner stove shown in the video. I tried to transition everything I have to use the quick connect fittings so I could just use the onboard RV propane. The problem with this stove is that the regulator is built into the connector. Has anyone found a solution to avoid the dual regulator? The part that screws into the stove appears to be proprietary.
@photonoah
The solution that I use is that I have a propane quick disconnect that connects into my onboard propane before the regulator so I have a high pressure propane line that I can tap into that I actually put a 10 psi regulator on that so I run 10 psi in the hose which then connects to any device that has a built-in regulator and that steps it down in the second stage and it works flawlessly it's more expensive and you have to have somebody that knows what they're doing set it up but I used to work for a propane company doing installations and deliveries so I had the training and the resources but if you go to a propane company they should be able to sell you the fittings and maybe even do the installation
with a rubber hose you want a filter or the rubber hose will ruin the buddy.
Amazon sells refillable bottles for $21 instead of $11.
So am I missing something? The refillable 1 pounders are certified when you purchase.?
Not a good idea to "insulate" a propane bottle during cold weather. The bottle needs to draw whatever heat it can find from the ambient air in order for the propane to change from liquid to a gas.
They actually sell propane tank heaters to warm the bottles up during cold snaps.
great video , thanks
I live in California and like guns and camping so I’m a lawbreaker already
I've got a 1000 gallon tank that is a bit annoying to take to the campground, but it never runs out
I seen that old Gavin’s name on the ban ! And I am sure that California folks will follow . But at this time I think I am not going to follow any thing that has old Gavin’s name on it ! But I do say thank you sir for the good info and the awesome job you did at presenting it !
I literally have 25 empty 1 pound propane bottles at my house waiting for me to deal with...
Do not refill disposible cylinders that is dangerous. The refillable cylinders have a bleed valve that is used during refilling. This is true for all states.
Why doesn’t the OPD safety valve prevent the propane from flowing when the tank is upside down?
IT DID HELP
Re fill able. Able to re fill. You can re fill the small green ones, you just shouldn't.
$3.79 per pound in my area. It’s getting crazy
What kinda generator do you have looking to get a quite one for emergency only. I have 50 amp 34ft tt
Who else instantly thought California?
Comifornia as usual.
@@Halffast719
Commiefornia
@ indeed it is.
Thank goodness some states are forward thinking. Reusable helps all of us and is actually more cost effective long term plus keeps things out of the landfills which I suspect you don't want in your neighborhood. You must have a problem efficiency and lack of waste.
California? Shocking.
Those one are already reusable. I've been refilling them for many years now. And what do those cost $30 a bottle
Urgh. Not opposed to the ban but not in an rv. I’m car camping so space is at a premium. Maybe I should just upgrade my power station and get an induction cook top
I don't have an unregulated connection on my RV. Who can I have add one so I can use a quick disconnect hose for my grill?
You use the regulated line on the RV , but you need to eliminate the regulator on your grill.
I’m so proud of CA. We keep doing better and better.
I refill them from a 20 lb tank. o well.
When calculating the break-even point between disposable 1-lb. cans and the refillable one, you forgot to factor in the half-million dollar fine and five-year prison term for refilling a disposable can. That in and of itself makes the refillable can the biggest bargain ever.
Thanks god bless
The five pound can is 130 dollars is that economical?
Yeah that company is way overpriced you can go to Ace hardware and get one for about 50 bucks
Doesn’t effect me, ford Lightning with pro power on board,
Induction stove top
Inferred electric rotisserie barbecue
Electric kettle
Convection microwave oven
Ecoflow wave 2 heat pump