I started TMS 2 weeks ago and I can most definitely notice improvements. I am more engaged in life, want to do things. I have had no side effects. I am 70 years old and just wanting to die so bad. I actually laughed at a comedy. My life has been ruined by depression. Tried talk therapy and so many meds. I am not stopping my TMS. If it damages my brain, do you really think I want continue with this killing depression? Life is not worth living. I have felt this way everyday of my life and I know it hindered me from reaching for higher goals. I can honestly say I do not know what it feels like to be happy or feel joy. So zap me.
This gives me so much courage and just pure comfort in knowing that there are other people who are or have been going through depression for a long time. I discovered in 2022 that I was suffering from PTSD which sends me in highs and lows of depression. I've been on 4 anti-depressants and still seem to struggle at times. But then there is joy in the littlest things around me (which tells me there is hope for a better and safer life). I live in Pakistan and hope that treatment is over here. I am on the look out.
I am in treatment 21 with my TMS and honestly it's completely changed my life. I've been depressed since I was 3 according to my mum, and no medication has ever worked. I can safly say it has changed my life for the better. For the first time in life I've found joy and was able to turn off the TV and GET OUT OF THE HOUSE! I tell everyone about it and think everyone should try it!!
@@---Biiiiiird hey! Thanks for sharing your experience with me ♥️🙏🏼. I’m looking into this procedure and will hopefully get it. Need a definite change in lifestyle and perspective.
If you are looking at TMS especially deep TMS… you’ve already tried meds and talk therapy. But maybe the doc said it just in case someone just tuned in and haven’t tried anything. If you don’t feel any changes after 3 weeks I suggest you ask for a remapping. I learned this from a UA-camr documenting her journey. When I did that It was late in my treatment and I only got about three weeks at a higher dose and new location. I started to feel like I wanted to do things after the remapping and three weeks but then it was time to end. I may appeal my insurance as well. Make sure you advocate for yourself or find a experienced location that knows over time that adjustments need to be made if you aren’t feeling better. My next round I think I am going to Vanderbilt were they have been doing TMS for over four years or more. Just to see if there is a difference. I am trying out of pocket neurofeedback to see if I can get better results. And I need to try appealing insurance. We shall see
Neuroferdback was one system that definitely helped me recover from the brain damage TMS gave me. Unfortunately I was part of the 50 to 60 percent who got worse with TMS.
@@Yourmomshousemyrules please do not spread false information about a potentially life-saving treatment. TMS does not work for everyone, but it is 70%-80% successful in relieving symptoms of depression. To say that 50%-60% of people experience ill effects is just a lie.
My mom is like Terry don't leave her house anymore for months and does barely minimum. She has severe depression since November now for months sits in her bed or chair for 23 hours a day . She's barely existing She is now on her 3rd medication Thinking about this !
I tried 21 antidepressants and they actually made my depression worse. Tomorrow is my 16th deep TMS treatment and I am noticing a difference. Like this lady, the first week, I noticed my sleep improving. I have 20 more to go in treatments to complete my first treatment plan. 36 total and my insurance covers it 100 percent, thank God! I also have found myself having new moments where I feel joy and happy to say I love life now. Depression is a beast! It does rob you of so much!
Someone above mentioned something about remapping. I see you commented 4 months ago. I hope you are doing better. That would be so tough, and discouraging.
Thank goodness Medicare pays for this if you’re referred by a doctor or psychiatrist and have had unsuccessful results with only two antidepressants. It’s finding a clinic or a doctor that will accept Medicare and having to share the 20% different cost on your own or through secondary medical insurance.
@Moataz Ahmed that’s basically impossible. They work Monday through Friday so that would mean 10 sessions a day at an hour apiece. Even if you do 7 days a week that’s still 8 hours a day. It’s not possible.
Sometimes change is difficult to notice when it's not sudden, or maybe you need adjusted treatment, new coils for TMS, supplementary or changed medication. Sometimes people are just born defective, and can't be helped, or treatment doesn't come in time to make sufficient improvement. Many people are not able or willing to believe that some psychological, psychiatric, and developmental illness or disorders can never be treated or cured, and are intolerable to the patient. This can lead to doctors and society making endless promises of improvement to life and disease when sometimes they just can't be cured or treated. You should try what you can, and may improve in many conditions, but sometimes you just won't get better.
@Archeological student Even drugs can cause some people irreversible problems. It's unfortunate if you've not experienced the outcome you wanted, but if it helps more people than it hurts to get out of severe mental illness then that needs to be assessed and a calculated risk taken to use or not use TMS.
This is the new treatment for depression for the future. Watches this takes off how the pharmaceutical companies scramble this credit this alternative solution for PTSD, OCD, drug resistant depression and even pain. Imagine the widespread ramifications for all types of mental and pain related issues being managed with ZERO drugs! I can!
Some treatments known to be safe and effective aren't licenced by drug companies in the UK because it's not anymore for a drug that is out of patent. There's a reason they keep reinventing the same medication over and over, instead of using traditional drugs or novel uses for existing drugs. It's not profitable to do all the licencing stuff for new uses of out of patent drugs.
Before considering any treatment, I strongly recommend consulting with a top-tier psychiatrist. Derealization can be a symptom of various disorders, but it is often treatable with medication and different forms of talk therapy-so keep your options open and try various treatments. In cases of “treatment-resistant derealization,” which falls under Depersonalization-Derealization Disorder (DPDR), it’s important to note that Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) is typically not indicated unless it’s part of severe treatment-resistant major depressive disorder. Generally, insurance companies approve TMS only after multiple other treatments have failed. Out-of-pocket, Deep TMS could cost around $15,000 for a complete course of 36 sessions. It’s crucial to discuss your ongoing psychiatric care and insurance coverage. If you’re in the USA, these factors will significantly influence your treatment options. Lastly, I would advise against trying ketamine or Spravato for derealization, as these treatments could potentially exacerbate the symptom.
@@naegleriafowleri2230 i had an unusual response to it according to my doctor. It's possible they napped wrong but after two weeks I quit bc it was too much.
I woke up in my emotions and wanted pancakes for breakfast. Pancakes with sausage and eggs (and I know I'm not eating meat!)! This forced me to reach inside and talk to the part of me that hurts because I knew she didn't really want pancakes, or any of that other stuff. She just wanted to feel comforted. Because I love her SO MUCH, I made her a deal...I would create a breakfast of things she loves that would not only make her feel comforted but would also be healthy for us. We enjoyed a bowl of oatmeal with a pinch of cinnamon and a dab of agave nectar, topped with blueberries and roasted pecans (I put a little butter in the pecans when I roasted them to give 'em a little pick me up). She doesn't feel like smiling much today and I'm not going to force her. No one likes a fake smile. She didn't comb her hair when she woke up, and I didn't suggest otherwise, so there will be no selfies today. We will, however, celebrate the fact that she got out of bed! And, more than that, the fact that she woke up to see another day. This is how I use self-love to move me through my sadness. I want to honor my feelings rather than get stuck in them like I used to do. Or, use alcohol to numb the pain. Those days are LONG gone and my mind, body, and spirit are so much better for it. As a result, I am able to choose to have a great day. Which means...today is going to be a great day! For all of us! Much love ❤️🧡❤️
Is it possible that those food cravings might be a way of asking for a break from the restrictive diet? Or possibly your body needs more fat, or protein?
You can find really good prices out there now. It used to be about $15k for treatment but it’s been significantly cheaper this year. Do they not have this in your country?
Does this technique change or remove nonremovable negative adverse thinking or change thinkinv ???? Im have deep anixety and ocd of certain ideas thought i want to get rid of them but hopless i tried medications and drug its help 30%
Yeah, it may not completely remove it, but it also may. Regardless, it will make things better. I'd wager my life on that. I *did* wager my life on it. It was a good decision
It is a treatment for ruminating thoughts. Different areas are stimulated for different reasons. Stimulation on the left is for anxiety, stimulation on the right is for depression, TMS on the top is for more of the OCD or ruminating thoughts, along other things, I believe. Not every person gets the same areas stimulated, some get only one area, some get all three.
I know my smile contradicts the sadness I feel. But, in my sadness, rather than find fast comfort food, I found it best to take my time to creating a new kind of comfort food. A healthy comfort food. You know how they have those ads for meal prep? I saw a pic of a few that inspired me to create my own. Tonight, I’m REALLY enjoying (the shameless smacking and sighing while I chew kind of enjoying) my dinner!! Mixed greens tossed in a balsamic vinaigrette and topped with chopped cashews, mango, blueberries, tomatoes, farro, and some of my sole from last night! Good Lawd this is delicious and it makes me happier at the same time! Still thinking about my cousin and feeling comforted in such a beautiful way! Much love to all of you! ❤️🧡❤️
I’ve tried it on my own and gave up. It feel like my brain was plummeting fast in an elevator. I’ve had one seizure but I would never use any of this anymore even with professional
I have heard that it can cause seizures in rare cases, so I would think that if you already had a seizure before in your life to probably not try it again! 🙏🙏
Boa noite 🙏🏻🙏🙏🕊️🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️ pra todos vocês 🙏🏻🙏🏻 lindo trabalho...de vcs okok 🙏🙏🕊️🙏 desejo p todos vocês um ótimo final de semana abençoado por com muita saúde paz amor okok
American Motorsports Gaming the two month treatment in KY is $4500. But most insurances cover it 86% success rate and that’s for people who have failed a most drugs. Praying unfortunately don’t have that success rate.
@@SociallyAwkwardGirl_OG Hows the TMS going? I am considering it but the more I read, the more I seem to see things saying it is not all that helpful and is a very short term solution so I'm slowly changing my mind. I know one can easily get swayed by peoples comments, and I am one of them!
I started TMS 2 weeks ago and I can most definitely notice improvements. I am more engaged in life, want to do things. I have had no side effects. I am 70 years old and just wanting to die so bad. I actually laughed at a comedy. My life has been ruined by depression. Tried talk therapy and so many meds. I am not stopping my TMS. If it damages my brain, do you really think I want continue with this killing depression? Life is not worth living. I have felt this way everyday of my life and I know it hindered me from reaching for higher goals. I can honestly say I do not know what it feels like to be happy or feel joy. So zap me.
This f... life is so unfair, keep going brother, hope you'll continue to feel better!
@Neeson221it's been a game changer for me
This gives me so much courage and just pure comfort in knowing that there are other people who are or have been going through depression for a long time. I discovered in 2022 that I was suffering from PTSD which sends me in highs and lows of depression. I've been on 4 anti-depressants and still seem to struggle at times. But then there is joy in the littlest things around me (which tells me there is hope for a better and safer life). I live in Pakistan and hope that treatment is over here. I am on the look out.
I am in treatment 21 with my TMS and honestly it's completely changed my life. I've been depressed since I was 3 according to my mum, and no medication has ever worked. I can safly say it has changed my life for the better. For the first time in life I've found joy and was able to turn off the TV and GET OUT OF THE HOUSE! I tell everyone about it and think everyone should try it!!
@@---Biiiiiird hey! Thanks for sharing your experience with me ♥️🙏🏼. I’m looking into this procedure and will hopefully get it. Need a definite change in lifestyle and perspective.
Good luck my friend!! It's all downhill from the first session!! I hope you find relief. Depression is hard. ❤️
@@1anamjawed5I am from India buddy. Sending my best wishes and good energy towards your way. May you live life full of happiness and bliss.😊
@@---BiiiiiirdHow can I contact you please
If you are looking at TMS especially deep TMS… you’ve already tried meds and talk therapy. But maybe the doc said it just in case someone just tuned in and haven’t tried anything. If you don’t feel any changes after 3 weeks I suggest you ask for a remapping. I learned this from a UA-camr documenting her journey. When I did that It was late in my treatment and I only got about three weeks at a higher dose and new location. I started to feel like I wanted to do things after the remapping and three weeks but then it was time to end. I may appeal my insurance as well. Make sure you advocate for yourself or find a experienced location that knows over time that adjustments need to be made if you aren’t feeling better. My next round I think I am going to Vanderbilt were they have been doing TMS for over four years or more. Just to see if there is a difference. I am trying out of pocket neurofeedback to see if I can get better results. And I need to try appealing insurance. We shall see
Neuroferdback was one system that definitely helped me recover from the brain damage TMS gave me. Unfortunately I was part of the 50 to 60 percent who got worse with TMS.
@@Yourmomshousemyrules please do not spread false information about a potentially life-saving treatment. TMS does not work for everyone, but it is 70%-80% successful in relieving symptoms of depression. To say that 50%-60% of people experience ill effects is just a lie.
My mom is like Terry don't leave her house anymore for months and does barely minimum. She has severe depression since November now for months sits in her bed or chair for 23 hours a day . She's barely existing
She is now on her 3rd medication
Thinking about this !
If she were in the UK, she might have years of suffering like this before getting anywhere near TMS.
Think about photobiomodulation, also! All the best!
I tried 21 antidepressants and they actually made my depression worse. Tomorrow is my 16th deep TMS treatment and I am noticing a difference. Like this lady, the first week, I noticed my sleep improving. I have 20 more to go in treatments to complete my first treatment plan. 36 total and my insurance covers it 100 percent, thank God! I also have found myself having new moments where I feel joy and happy to say I love life now. Depression is a beast! It does rob you of so much!
If you don’t mind me asking, what insurance do you have?
@@angelm1203I don’t mind at all! Cigna Open Access Plus.
@@angelm1203it’s called “imjesusandricherthanallofyouniggas”
In the middle of this treatment and wanting to quit. It’s causing my anxiety, panic, and OCD to spike to an unbearable level.
What, really??
Oh no this scares me
Someone above mentioned something about remapping.
I see you commented 4 months ago. I hope you are doing better. That would be so tough, and discouraging.
Please update us in your journey. I may start this soon and I would like to know more about your experience
How are u doing these days?
Thank goodness Medicare pays for this if you’re referred by a doctor or psychiatrist and have had unsuccessful results with only two antidepressants. It’s finding a clinic or a doctor that will accept Medicare and having to share the 20% different cost on your own or through secondary medical insurance.
Acacia Mental Health does TMS the same way Stanford does it. Accelerated, 50 sessions in one week. 90% remission rate.
I think that I went to a doctor over thirty years ago for my sexual preference. I did not feel depressed until medicine
@Moataz Ahmed that’s basically impossible. They work Monday through Friday so that would mean 10 sessions a day at an hour apiece. Even if you do 7 days a week that’s still 8 hours a day. It’s not possible.
@@Autumnpearly The centre I spoke to in Atlanta does exactly that
It sucks though because insurance won’t cover, the centre I found in Atlanta charges 10k
@@cb7235 damn. It’s always something. They don’t really want us to be better.
Im having my first treatment of it today!
Keep us updated
Did it work?!
Please update
Update please
Update please
Would love to try this.
I have been on Spravata once a week for over a years and don't have permanent results. Will this help me
I have had 15 sessions of tms in case of ocd seen no change within me
Sometimes change is difficult to notice when it's not sudden, or maybe you need adjusted treatment, new coils for TMS, supplementary or changed medication.
Sometimes people are just born defective, and can't be helped, or treatment doesn't come in time to make sufficient improvement.
Many people are not able or willing to believe that some psychological, psychiatric, and developmental illness or disorders can never be treated or cured, and are intolerable to the patient.
This can lead to doctors and society making endless promises of improvement to life and disease when sometimes they just can't be cured or treated. You should try what you can, and may improve in many conditions, but sometimes you just won't get better.
@@marting.9613 So it is just another gamble?
Hmm what’s the difference between deep tms and tms? There’s a place who does tms 5 days a week, same time limit, and length of sessions for long term.
@Archeological student Even drugs can cause some people irreversible problems.
It's unfortunate if you've not experienced the outcome you wanted, but if it helps more people than it hurts to get out of severe mental illness then that needs to be assessed and a calculated risk taken to use or not use TMS.
This is the new treatment for depression for the future. Watches this takes off how the pharmaceutical companies scramble this credit this alternative solution for PTSD, OCD, drug resistant depression and even pain.
Imagine the widespread ramifications for all types of mental and pain related issues being managed with ZERO drugs! I can!
Some treatments known to be safe and effective aren't licenced by drug companies in the UK because it's not anymore for a drug that is out of patent.
There's a reason they keep reinventing the same medication over and over, instead of using traditional drugs or novel uses for existing drugs. It's not profitable to do all the licencing stuff for new uses of out of patent drugs.
Can tms be a solution for derealization?
i had derealization from anxiety, starter ssris and it helped .
Before considering any treatment, I strongly recommend consulting with a top-tier psychiatrist. Derealization can be a symptom of various disorders, but it is often treatable with medication and different forms of talk therapy-so keep your options open and try various treatments. In cases of “treatment-resistant derealization,” which falls under Depersonalization-Derealization Disorder (DPDR), it’s important to note that Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) is typically not indicated unless it’s part of severe treatment-resistant major depressive disorder. Generally, insurance companies approve TMS only after multiple other treatments have failed. Out-of-pocket, Deep TMS could cost around $15,000 for a complete course of 36 sessions. It’s crucial to discuss your ongoing psychiatric care and insurance coverage. If you’re in the USA, these factors will significantly influence your treatment options. Lastly, I would advise against trying ketamine or Spravato for derealization, as these treatments could potentially exacerbate the symptom.
@@orthodox_gentleman how can it be treated
@@adolfs7077My son has a estrangement from reality..Does it start with Tls... Does it really help him?
@@orthodox_gentlemanPlease will it help Tms The intention in treatment is to avoid alienation from reality
Made my anxiety skyrocket. Didn't help me.
Why
@@naegleriafowleri2230 i had an unusual response to it according to my doctor. It's possible they napped wrong but after two weeks I quit bc it was too much.
@@SimplyJen87 that’s terrible I hope ur doing much better now.
How are you these days
I just watched an interview with a man who sustained a brain injury from TMS.
I woke up in my emotions and wanted pancakes for breakfast. Pancakes with sausage and eggs (and I know I'm not eating meat!)!
This forced me to reach inside and talk to the part of me that hurts because I knew she didn't really want pancakes, or any of that other stuff. She just wanted to feel comforted.
Because I love her SO MUCH, I made her a deal...I would create a breakfast of things she loves that would not only make her feel comforted but would also be healthy for us.
We enjoyed a bowl of oatmeal with a pinch of cinnamon and a dab of agave nectar, topped with blueberries and roasted pecans (I put a little butter in the pecans when I roasted them to give 'em a little pick me up).
She doesn't feel like smiling much today and I'm not going to force her. No one likes a fake smile. She didn't comb her hair when she woke up, and I didn't suggest otherwise, so there will be no selfies today.
We will, however, celebrate the fact that she got out of bed! And, more than that, the fact that she woke up to see another day.
This is how I use self-love to move me through my sadness. I want to honor my feelings rather than get stuck in them like I used to do. Or, use alcohol to numb the pain. Those days are LONG gone and my mind, body, and spirit are so much better for it.
As a result, I am able to choose to have a great day.
Which means...today is going to be a great day!
For all of us! Much love ❤️🧡❤️
Is it possible that those food cravings might be a way of asking for a break from the restrictive diet? Or possibly your body needs more fat, or protein?
Visual snow syndrome any trails for this disorder.
Hello, I am Ahmed Al-Ghamdi from Saudi Arabia and I have simple schizophrenia.. I want to ask how much treatment costs in America and in which state
You can find really good prices out there now. It used to be about $15k for treatment but it’s been significantly cheaper this year. Do they not have this in your country?
@Archeological student how about you share your medical degrees? You bust have several since you’re here judging this device. Prove YOUR Knowledge.
@@florencia2771 having a medical degree doesn't mean you've undergone the treatment firsthand.. i wanna know what he has to say.
@archeologicalstudent5234just shutup ok
موجودة كمان فسويسرا
IM GOING TO DO THIS SOON
how you feel after this treatment?
Update us
Does this technique change or remove nonremovable negative adverse thinking or change thinkinv ???? Im have deep anixety and ocd of certain ideas thought i want to get rid of them but hopless i tried medications and drug its help 30%
Yeah, it may not completely remove it, but it also may. Regardless, it will make things better. I'd wager my life on that. I *did* wager my life on it. It was a good decision
It is a treatment for ruminating thoughts. Different areas are stimulated for different reasons. Stimulation on the left is for anxiety, stimulation on the right is for depression, TMS on the top is for more of the OCD or ruminating thoughts, along other things, I believe. Not every person gets the same areas stimulated, some get only one area, some get all three.
If u go to TMS it isn’t bc talk therapy and meds actually worked. It doesn’t for a some people
I know my smile contradicts the sadness I feel. But, in my sadness, rather than find fast comfort food, I found it best to take my time to creating a new kind of comfort food. A healthy comfort food.
You know how they have those ads for meal prep? I saw a pic of a few that inspired me to create my own.
Tonight, I’m REALLY enjoying (the shameless smacking and sighing while I chew kind of enjoying) my dinner!!
Mixed greens tossed in a balsamic vinaigrette and topped with chopped cashews, mango, blueberries, tomatoes, farro, and some of my sole from last night!
Good Lawd this is delicious and it makes me happier at the same time!
Still thinking about my cousin and feeling comforted in such a beautiful way!
Much love to all of you! ❤️🧡❤️
Pretty heart color-combination! Love that!! God bless you! 🙏💖🌸
Does it help with anxiety too?
There is an anxiety protocol for the amígdala but it’s not FDA approved
Maybe magnetic 🧠 repair is the future
is it help to quit the medications?
Discuss with your doctor first
@@UdoADHD im asking you now why cant you answer if it helped ypu quit medications
@@חביבאטיאס-מ1נ Because it depends enntirely on the person. Some people can quit and some peope should not and cannot.
Are you a doctor?
@@laurieberry162 no dear why
I know Weedborn has the greatest CBD supplements around.
Doug deMuro's mother?
Mushrooms are King 👑
What about doing a story about how it can hurt a human being and leave them almost paralyzed and worsening of depression.
How do you mean?
@@jrman413 How do I mean what?
Me
@@jrman413 is there one you have in mind?
Are you thinking of ECT? That's a different treatment
5 Medications?!! Ha!! Try like 12.
Try 34...
@Berzerker God yeah but I took that many so just let me have this
@Archeological student I already did it and it didnt destroy me.
@Archeological student i beg to differ. It saved my life
@Archeological student It didnt hurt me but it didnt do anything. All good. Just a waste of money
I’ve tried it on my own and gave up. It feel like my brain was plummeting fast in an elevator. I’ve had one seizure but I would never use any of this anymore even with professional
Where did you buy a TMS machine for home use? How much did it cost? Cheapest I’ve seen is like $50k
I have heard that it can cause seizures in rare cases, so I would think that if you already had a seizure before in your life to probably not try it again! 🙏🙏
For Alzheimer’s?
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So, you're essentially paying $10K per session and having the same success rate as someone who "prays" their depression away.
American Motorsports Gaming the two month treatment in KY is $4500. But most insurances cover it 86% success rate and that’s for people who have failed a most drugs. Praying unfortunately don’t have that success rate.
@@harrietkaufman3862 It's certainly something the VA Administration needs to try.
American Motorsports Gaming Except prayer doesn’t work
I'm trying this now
@@SociallyAwkwardGirl_OG Hows the TMS going? I am considering it but the more I read, the more I seem to see things saying it is not all that helpful and is a very short term solution so I'm slowly changing my mind. I know one can easily get swayed by peoples comments, and I am one of them!
Wow I’m early
Try Jesus Christ first before attempting this procedure.
Or whatever faith a person chooses. The meditational quality of prayer can help some. But not others so no problems
Your preferred religious horsesh*t isn't the answer to everything.
try prayer first guys.
set the entire day aside and pray as long as you can.
God bless you all.
I'm being robbed of my joy by the government
What do you mean