@@wangautomotiveI think what he is saying is that windshields are not cheap anymore as there are so many sensors and features built into a windshield that a simple windshield repair can be costly. For example, I have a vehicle with a heads up display, rain sense wipers, auto lo/high beams and cars have even more than that. Have to the correct type of windshield and then everything has to be recalibrated.
Basically nothing has changed, other than how many lead poisoned boomers are left yelling about "how they don't make em like they used to" ..thank the IIHS that they dont. At least were not getting impaled on metal fan switches and cigarette lighters or breaking our necks in 20mph rear-enders.
Increased integrity is just that more force is transferred to the human meat inside. This is very bad. What is shocking is that the concern of this video is the repair cost and not the amount of injuries and fatalities for the passengers. Now a days, cars are more damaged even totaled at such speeds and people inside just walk away.
@@bubullenoiraudeto a certain point, yes In this Case the Impact wouldn't have been fatal. Because the Plymouths had greater stiffness Up to 15 mph, it does not mean they do Not have working crumble zones. You also do Not want a Car falling apart at Impact. Also, you ONLY want crumble zones, If you Hit a SOLID or stronger Objekt. If the Plymouths Hit a Chevy, head on, you want to be in the Plymouth.
@@bigblockjalopy Agreed... Let's be real, for a 15 mph crash to remove you from the living you'd have to be wearing no seatbelt, and lifting a ceramic coffee mug to your face at the time - which gets broken on the steering wheel and stabs you in the neck... 😂
I owned a 1971 Plymouth roadrunner which is essentially a satellite... We raced a couple of these cars at our local half mile track and I remember how strong they were and as you can see the 71 satellite did the best of the big cars with that big loop bumper... The unibody construction was very very strong. The weakness was that they could be twisted but head on they were very very strong in fact for a 4000 lb car they would rival today's cars for the amount of damage done
As someone born in the 1970’s who came into driving years mainly piloting malaise era cars with shock absorbing bumpers front and rear, we had a great time low-speed bashing into things and each other.
They should have filled the gas tanks on the rear end test. The cost for repair would have been significantly higher for the Pinto because they would have needed to replace the building. Great videos!
That Was Great! Remembering The Cars I Saw Growing Up. Didn't Remember The Vega Came Out In '71 & The Beetle Was The Cheapest Repair. Thank You. (Like #11 - Comment #1)
What you have to remember the Impala retailed for around $4,000 and the Vega started at $2,100. The 15 mph crash would cost half the value of a new Vega. I don’t know what the standard was in 1971, but here in Wisconsin where I was a body shop estimator, insurance companies were required by law to total a vehicle up to 7 years old when the damage was 70% of the vehicles value. Otherwise the vehicle would have a salvage title. Most insurance companies would total them when the damage was anywhere near that amount.
@@dave1956 I believe the std is still 70% unless multiple airbags have blown then it is much lower. Local shop manager told me if 3 or more bags have deployed the vehicle is totaled even when they are easily repairable. according to him they don't want to deal with the customers claiming diminished value which has become a big thing since videos on UA-cam taught people about it and use it as a way to get more for your car because it was repaire dbut now has a CarFax history.
The danger of Pintos was greatly exaggerated. They were no less safe than most subcompacts of their era, and had fewer fires than a number of foreign cars.
@@christopherg9806 Yes, indeed; I learned that myself. Even given the myth as fact (which we both know it isn't exactly, but just for the sake of argument against new cars), at least those Pintos always required outside "assistance" to catch fire. On top of that, it wasn't necessary to pump out half a Great Lake to put the fire out.
I had a friend in high school during the early 80s that drove a Ford Pinto. He put a sticker on the rear bumper that read: Caution blows up on impact. He neaver had a problem with tailgaters.
A couple of observations. I guess those looped bumpers on those Plymouths really did reduce damage. Some of these figures even by early 70s standards seem pretty low to me. In the front-end crashes, the result on most of these cars pretty much seemed the same, a new front clip and a windshield. I can't believe the parts; body labor and paint work could have been done for around a grand. On the rear end crashes, those values seemed extremely low. That Chevy would have needed a new bumper, rear quarter panel repair and paint work. All that for $64? I have a hard time believing that.
Exactly!... It looks like it did the best of all the big cars and I know because I own three of them we raced one at our local Randy rounder track... And I remember my brother hitting a guy head on because the brakes went out on it and there wasn't that much damage we couldn't believe it
Being a Super Beetle, the front end structure was newly engineered with a modern McPherson strut suspension. I wonder how the standard Beetle, which was originally designed in the 1930s, would have fared.
Some of these cars were deathtraps at only 15 mph, and had major structural damage (especially the AMC Ambassador). And the guy sprinting down the side cracks me up---he's getting one hell of a day's workout!
My 1985 Bertone X1/9 had 10MPH rated bumpers which were on shock absorbers. My car was two weeks old when I was rear-ended by a Toyota Corolla which totaled itself on my rear bumper. The bumper itself was replaced as was the rear grill below. Total cost was $600. Corolla was undrivable.
Considering those days we still didn't have full integrated (one piece buckle) lap and shoulder/seat belt harness requirement, 10 mph head first into a steering wheel could be a fun trip to the doctor, if wearing just a lap belt, or as many of us wore, no belt at all in those days.
That frt impact damage was pretty severe in most of the test cars for such low speeds. A h/s friend of mine had a 72 'Bird, and we can attest that the 'Endura nose" didn't endure much, IDC how many times DeLorean smacks it with a hammer.
Where can I find the Super 8 of the crash results for these vehicles? I so want to play the film on my projector and play some jazz music in the background.
More than four decades since the beginning of 'talkies' in cinema and yet no audio for these CRASH TESTS? It's no wonder that safety didn't improve much in that era besides seat belts and tempered glass.
This is apparently a special, silent version. It was probably also recorded with sound, which this channel hasn't posted. But I found your comment hilarious regardless :D
To see how much inflation there has been, all of the 10MPH test would be at least $3,500 if you could buy new OEM parts! I would love to have the Mercury Montego.
It would be great to see not only the repair cost, but the MSRP also. Those repair prices sound reasonable at today costs, but if the MSRP was shown it would give the comparable ratio of percentage of the total base price of the vehicles.
It was impressive that most of the estimates for the 15 MPH crashes were only around $1,000. But I have to wonder if any of them could really have been fixed to like-new condition; it was obvious that most of them had frame damage.
Before crumple zones cars were designed to be rigid to resist damage. However the energy from an impact had to go somewhere, so it went to the passenger compartment.
WOW if that's all it costs to repair these cars I want one. lol Minimum wage was 1.60hr or 12.80 day so ya 500 was a lot to fix a 2K$ car that may have been worn out and only worth 200.
Quite reasonable prices to fix these cars today; they would just be totaled and scraped. Interesting to see the guy running in each video; maybe he just jumped out of the car.
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That dude in the lab coat running alongside the cars is getting quite a workout
😅
Probably used to it from high school
He was running for his smoke brake
What’s his role running like butt outta hell?
This is nothin' - you gotta see him fly when they get to the 30 mph DOT standard! 😂
12:44 I was expecting the Pinto to explode…. 😂😂😂 …… thanks for share👍👍
Even I said BOOM.😅😅😅😅
That was from rear impact the gas tank was about 10 inches from the rear bumper.
I think the AMC Pacer had the same danger.
If they test the pinto in a rear end collision test don’t bother checking the cost the car is ready for the scrappers yard.
Absolutely!👍 The uploader missed the boat - he shoulda hacked the video & done the Pinto last with some special effects, would've been hilarious! 😂😂😂
And now a scene from the movie Top Secret
I was an estimator in a body shop for 20 years. Nowadays the windshield can cost more than the cost to repair that ‘71 Impala.
You've gotta keep in mind this is 1971 dollars. That's over $5,000 in todays money. I dont think windshields cost that much
@@wangautomotiveI think what he is saying is that windshields are not cheap anymore as there are so many sensors and features built into a windshield that a simple windshield repair can be costly. For example, I have a vehicle with a heads up display, rain sense wipers, auto lo/high beams and cars have even more than that. Have to the correct type of windshield and then everything has to be recalibrated.
Yah, and that was quite a crinkle.
Heck, a headlight can run over $5000.
A Subaru windscreen in Australia can cost around $4000 .
Inflation adjusted for both 10 and 15mph damage:
Chevy Impala: $6,389 - $9,017
Ford Galaxie 500: $6,027 - $9,303
Plymouth Fury: $4,886 - $6,713
AMC Ambassador: $5,387 - $9,303
VW Super Beetle: $2,682 - $4,740
Chevy Vega: $3,383 - $6,058
Ford Pinto: $4,131 - $6,289
AMC Gremlin: $4,447 - $6,397
Pontiac Firebird: $7,052 - $8,802
Buick Skylark: $6,790 - $7,900
Mercury Montego: $5,796 - $6,335
Plymouth Satellite: $2,227 - $5,619
Basically nothing has changed, other than how many lead poisoned boomers are left yelling about "how they don't make em like they used to"
..thank the IIHS that they dont. At least were not getting impaled on metal fan switches and cigarette lighters or breaking our necks in 20mph rear-enders.
Thank you. I wish someone would have listed all the cars original prices $
All cars from my childhood! Amazing how the barges faired so poorly. Thank you for posting this, just mesmerizing.
The barges are rolling alot more weight.
4500lb
Car hits the wall alot more solid than a 2900lb Car.
New vehicles amaze. But fancy iarts make fancy repair bills, and they ALL look alike.
Try the same with a new car you will be very disappoineted
Well, it looks like the IIHS had a very good physical fitness program!
I was impressed with the integrity of the Plymouths, as well as the AMC's.
I was surprised that the Montego with its Jimmy Durante Cyrano-de Bergerac schnoz wasn't significantly more costly to repair.
Well, save for the Ambassador that dropped its drive shaft (how, I have no idea).
Increased integrity is just that more force is transferred to the human meat inside. This is very bad. What is shocking is that the concern of this video is the repair cost and not the amount of injuries and fatalities for the passengers. Now a days, cars are more damaged even totaled at such speeds and people inside just walk away.
@@bubullenoiraudeto a certain point, yes
In this Case the Impact wouldn't have been fatal. Because the Plymouths had greater stiffness Up to 15 mph, it does not mean they do Not have working crumble zones.
You also do Not want a Car falling apart at Impact.
Also, you ONLY want crumble zones, If you Hit a SOLID or stronger Objekt. If the Plymouths Hit a Chevy, head on, you want to be in the Plymouth.
@@bigblockjalopy
Agreed... Let's be real, for a 15 mph crash to remove you from the living you'd have to be wearing no seatbelt, and lifting a ceramic coffee mug to your face at the time - which gets broken on the steering wheel and stabs you in the neck... 😂
This was actually entertaining and cool to see. Liked the diverse, unbiased lineup and types of cars featured which were driven by everyday folks!
We're gonna need you to wear this lab coat and run next to these cars for no reason at all
I owned a 1971 Plymouth roadrunner which is essentially a satellite... We raced a couple of these cars at our local half mile track and I remember how strong they were and as you can see the 71 satellite did the best of the big cars with that big loop bumper... The unibody construction was very very strong. The weakness was that they could be twisted but head on they were very very strong in fact for a 4000 lb car they would rival today's cars for the amount of damage done
That was before energy-absorbing bumper bars and crumple-zones were mandated from 1973 onwards.
As someone born in the 1970’s who came into driving years mainly piloting malaise era cars with shock absorbing bumpers front and rear, we had a great time low-speed bashing into things and each other.
This was 18 to 24 months before Federal bumper regulations began.
They should have filled the gas tanks on the rear end test. The cost for repair would have been significantly higher for the Pinto because they would have needed to replace the building. Great videos!
The Galaxy had the roof buckle and bend out of alignment above the passenger door. That will not be cheap
I wouldn't want that one to be back in service.
$1,000 in 1971 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $7,794.17 in 2024.
Crazy.
But in 1971 a good paying job was about $3.50 per hour.
$1,000 was probably 2 months wages.
That Was Great! Remembering The Cars I Saw Growing Up. Didn't Remember The Vega Came Out In '71 & The Beetle Was The Cheapest Repair. Thank You. (Like #11 - Comment #1)
I remember Allstate publishing these results in magazine ads just before the 5 mph bumpers showed up on the 1973 car models.
$800US is now about $6200. Actually quite a bit of damage for a 10mph hit. Today you have to handle 5mph with no damage.
WOW, these 10mph accidents would be 5-10k nowadays.
What you have to remember the Impala retailed for around $4,000 and the Vega started at $2,100. The 15 mph crash would cost half the value of a new Vega. I don’t know what the standard was in 1971, but here in Wisconsin where I was a body shop estimator, insurance companies were required by law to total a vehicle up to 7 years old when the damage was 70% of the vehicles value. Otherwise the vehicle would have a salvage title. Most insurance companies would total them when the damage was anywhere near that amount.
And a middle class family income was 11K in 1971. The problem sure as fkuk isn't with the cars.
The eventual bumper standard was 5 mph. 10 mph is 400% the energy severity.
@@dave1956 I believe the std is still 70% unless multiple airbags have blown then it is much lower. Local shop manager told me if 3 or more bags have deployed the vehicle is totaled even when they are easily repairable. according to him they don't want to deal with the customers claiming diminished value which has become a big thing since videos on UA-cam taught people about it and use it as a way to get more for your car because it was repaire dbut now has a CarFax history.
They were back then too when you adjust for inflation. $870.65 in 1971 is equal to $6,784.83 today.
This was a lot of fun to watch!
12:42 I expected a fireball.
The danger of Pintos was greatly exaggerated. They were no less safe than most subcompacts of their era, and had fewer fires than a number of foreign cars.
@@christopherg9806 Yes, indeed; I learned that myself. Even given the myth as fact (which we both know it isn't exactly, but just for the sake of argument against new cars), at least those Pintos always required outside "assistance" to catch fire. On top of that, it wasn't necessary to pump out half a Great Lake to put the fire out.
But it was a front-end collision
😂😂😂
That Fury did well! Those things were tanks.
My father patrolled in one when he was a cop in the 70s. Super tough
Now a quart of automotive paint costs $870.65
Notice how every car was a base model with dog dish hubcacps. Watching those 71 firebirds was tough.😮
Running alongside cars in a white coat ? Finally a lab job I can handle !
The dude running must have been the new guy. Hopefully he wore the right shoes.
I had a friend in high school during the early 80s that drove a Ford Pinto. He put a sticker on the rear bumper that read: Caution blows up on impact. He neaver had a problem with tailgaters.
Was anyone else waiting on the Pinto to explode during the rear end crash test?
Rear-ended at 15MPH might very well have done it!
😂😂😂😂
Can’t help watching the shut line of the top corner of the doors at the top of the A pillar and how much the body flexes upon impact. Scary.
This is so cool! Thank you for this!
Plymouth Satalight nearly won over the concrete block.
For the most part, the unibody cars did better than the body-on-frame cars.
A couple of observations. I guess those looped bumpers on those Plymouths really did reduce damage.
Some of these figures even by early 70s standards seem pretty low to me. In the front-end crashes, the result on most of these cars pretty much seemed the same, a new front clip and a windshield. I can't believe the parts; body labor and paint work could have been done for around a grand. On the rear end crashes, those values seemed extremely low. That Chevy would have needed a new bumper, rear quarter panel repair and paint work. All that for $64? I have a hard time believing that.
Running next to a crash test would be an OSHA violation.
That Satellite is a tank!
Exactly!... It looks like it did the best of all the big cars and I know because I own three of them we raced one at our local Randy rounder track... And I remember my brother hitting a guy head on because the brakes went out on it and there wasn't that much damage we couldn't believe it
Does anyone know why an agent is walking/running along side the vehicle?
To prove speed reference
This hurts my heart
The Beetle did surprisingly well.
Being a Super Beetle, the front end structure was newly engineered with a modern McPherson strut suspension. I wonder how the standard Beetle, which was originally designed in the 1930s, would have fared.
With how old this video actually is and its quality i was expecting this video to be uploaded like 17 years ago
AMC gremlin. More aerodynamic in reverse. That dude running beside the cars cracks me up!
Same here. He's running at the beginning, then beside every car. What's with that? 😂
The plymouth satellight was tougher
Can’t believe these are considered repairable!
Some of these cars were deathtraps at only 15 mph, and had major structural damage (especially the AMC Ambassador). And the guy sprinting down the side cracks me up---he's getting one hell of a day's workout!
My 1985 Bertone X1/9 had 10MPH rated bumpers which were on shock absorbers. My car was two weeks old when I was rear-ended by a Toyota Corolla which totaled itself on my rear bumper. The bumper itself was replaced as was the rear grill below. Total cost was $600. Corolla was undrivable.
The front bumpers on the 1971 Plymouth Satellite were heavy duty.
Those Plymouths were stiff!
You can really tell that those big steel bumpers didnt do a think before the 5mph impact standard
I was sure the Pinto was going to explode during the rear collision test!
Damn. That Plymouth held up well
Those repair prices are a riot!
The Plymouth Fury was impressive.
Why is there a man running beside the cars being tested?
To show that those cars are going slow.
To prove speed reference
to add drama
Uncredited runners probably office staff drew straws and lost.
Small cars seemed to fair the best.
hmmm!! Without this video there is some great demolition derby champion😂
I forgot how big Ambassadors were. Way smoother ride than a Cadillac
Considering those days we still didn't have full integrated (one piece buckle) lap and shoulder/seat belt harness requirement, 10 mph head first into a steering wheel could be a fun trip to the doctor, if wearing just a lap belt, or as many of us wore, no belt at all in those days.
$800 repair. That'll get you a new sideview mirror today.
Was 'Running Man' to verify crash speeds ?
That frt impact damage was pretty severe in most of the test cars for such low speeds. A h/s friend of mine had a 72 'Bird, and we can attest that the 'Endura nose" didn't endure much, IDC how many times DeLorean smacks it with a hammer.
They probably sold those rear-end test cars on without fixing the damage, at a steep enough discount to account for it.
The Insurance Institute sure has an interesting fitness program.
No wonder why 5 mph bumpers soon pop up in 1973.
I owned a 71 sport fury 3 and a 71 pinto that was brown that we called the pinto bean.
Where can I find the Super 8 of the crash results for these vehicles? I so want to play the film on my projector and play some jazz music in the background.
More than four decades since the beginning of 'talkies' in cinema and yet no audio for these CRASH TESTS? It's no wonder that safety didn't improve much in that era besides seat belts and tempered glass.
This is apparently a special, silent version. It was probably also recorded with sound, which this channel hasn't posted. But I found your comment hilarious regardless :D
@@musicsurvives Film collecting is a gamble, and no, I don't have any more films like this one...yet.
To see how much inflation there has been, all of the 10MPH test would be at least $3,500 if you could buy new OEM parts! I would love to have the Mercury Montego.
That made me cry, because I currently need a set of front fenders for my 1970 Buick Skylark. And they are big $$$ because they are not reproduced.
Best wishes on finding them at a reasonable price.
@t_shane_doyle prices are very high. They stopped stamping them about 35 years ago sadly.
1971. The same year i came out ..i don't crumple that easy 😂😂😂
What's with the person running behind the car as it crashes?
curious as to why the guy is running along side the car in the crash tests
I think its to convey how slow 10mph really is
The guy running beside the cars must have been praying they don't start crash testing at 60MPH.
Back when a body shop could fix most of the damage with a dent puller, Dollie’s and a body hammer.
Obviously you never worked in a body shop.
Yeah only thing is the humans inside wouldnt be as lucky😅
My dads brand new 1971 VW bug cost 2000 bucks us in Spring 1971. Gasoline was 28 cents. Cut 1/3 acre yards for 1 to 1.5 dollars with a push mower
The 71' Impala; if it cost $828.50 in 1971, that equals $6,700 in 2024.
I'm so curious why there is a guy running in each test
Want to work for the IIHS? Must be fit!
It would be great to see not only the repair cost, but the MSRP also. Those repair prices sound reasonable at today costs, but if the MSRP was shown it would give the comparable ratio of percentage of the total base price of the vehicles.
I've owned 6 of the year/models in this film. And I pranged a few of them
The Plymouth Satellite pissing fuel👀
Just a 10 mph impact destroyed the front end. Newer designs definitely have the advantage.
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This test would total new cars😂
actually, many new cars would have almost no damage. the 10mph impacts would be in the Neiborhood of 6-7k in todays dollars.
It was impressive that most of the estimates for the 15 MPH crashes were only around $1,000. But I have to wonder if any of them could really have been fixed to like-new condition; it was obvious that most of them had frame damage.
Before crumple zones cars were designed to be rigid to resist damage. However the energy from an impact had to go somewhere, so it went to the passenger compartment.
Moral of the story is don’t crash into stuff
The fury damaged their barrier lol
One wonders how many miles that runner ran during the filming of these crash tests...
Rip 4-door full size classics 😢
I wonder what car did NOT perform acceptably on the 2.5 rear bump.
WOW if that's all it costs to repair these cars I want one. lol Minimum wage was 1.60hr or 12.80 day so ya 500 was a lot to fix a 2K$ car that may have been worn out and only worth 200.
Quite reasonable prices to fix these cars today; they would just be totaled and scraped. Interesting to see the guy running in each video; maybe he just jumped out of the car.
You couldn’t repair a front bumper and grille for $1000 today.
Show this to the "They don't make em like they used to" crowd.
no wonder larger bumpers were finally mandated a few years later
lol they let that guy run along with the car
In this comment section: people forgetting that inflation has happened since 1971.
Avant il savait faire de belle voitures et en plus solide!
lol the beetle actually did good
Why is there a man running behind the car in every scene?
Am I seeing the A pillar bend on some of these cars?😮