Big respect Dovydas ❤️ Mine and Mccune’s interactions were only Runescape related. I stopped associating myself with him as soon as Hanannie’s video came out. I will do better in the future and do more research into people. No more borrowing accounts from this point on.
mans really is a friend to the osrs community, I know hes had his past but from my perspective he always owns his mistakes and continues to push forward and do better. keep up the great work dovy wish you had pmod back you'd be 90% more useful then most of the pmods out there.
@@magster41 better throw your phone away since its parts are made from child labour then made in a factory that is basically reinvented slave labour i know its nothing to do with you but your using the phone so your just as bad as them
What’s crazy is the same thing almost happened to oda when I was watching his stream. Like a month ago MCune offered his account to oda because he wanted a max to pk on. Oda hopped on it and his twitch chat told him what mCune did and oda got off the account. Not everyone is up to date with rs drama. Unless you have real receipts like dms from torvesta and mccune you’re turning a decent person into a villain
Even in a best case scenario, each of them knew about this as soon as Hannanie posted her video. They knew amd they remained silent. As Hanannie says in her video, the people who stand idly by are jist as complicit
huge props to you for covering this and defending some gamers when they (as far as we know i guess) havent done anything wrong at all. you a true gamer.
It makes sense for someone like that to lend steamers/youtubers money/accounts. It makes them look pretty good overall, and generally gives off the impression they can be trusted
I think that reddit post hit it perfectly. Quit trying to cancel people and their careers over knowing someone who did something bad, unless they are like openly supporting or standing up for the crap it’s easy to assume he cut all ties after finding out.
I believe Oda has also used the account Hard to pk on, not sure if that was said lol means nothing. Pkers are always on other accounts to not only hide their RSNs since people won't fight them or the opposite and stream snipe/rag them. Also, thanks for bringing this stuff back up. After seeing Hanannies vid not get the justice it deserved, it was nice following this little series and seeing them YEETED!
A friend is nothing but a coward, who beats on women controls them, and mentally abuses them the same guy who ran from his country, so he did not have to serve in the military
I think what most people take issue with is that Torvesta didn't say anything until McCune was banned. Understandably, some people might view that as "guess I'll talk about him now that I can't benefit from his account/money."
He's not defending, but at the same time, I can understand some people's viewpoints. Although he is not defending, he's being too quiet about it and not addressing it. It can appear as though he wants to sweep it under the rug. I don't think Torvesta associates with him anymore, but I get where some people come from. Ignoring it can come across as hiding it and can appear guilty.
Torvesta got me back into RS after being off for 7 years. His video of pk'ing streamers was recommended to me and ever since then I've been back. I feel bad that this happened to him. I hope it all blows over soon and he can continue without harassment
having someone on ur rs friends list is VERY different from having access to their maxed account. loans are one thing but access to the whole account is wild.
It's not wild at all when you're an extremely trusted and public figure of the game. I wouldn't give 99.99% of players access to my account. But I certainly wouldn't be concerned about giving access to Torvesta, Boaty or Dovy. It happens all the time for these huge streamers
I don't like people bringing Torvesta into this. You can interact with someone and not know about what they do behind the scenes. Torvesta not addressing this isn't suspicious at all if he had nothing to do with the bad stuff. Its just a lose-lose Streisand effect. I also think its completely unnecessary for Soup to blur anything since it wouldn't be an endorsement of McCune. I think the internet outrage mob takes away from the Win by going way too hard whenever something like this happens
Indeed, it's like nothing is enough for the mob, so without any evidence they expand their outrage to people who had nothing to do with it, ridiculous.
This is why I hate internet. Internet is full of people who just jump to conclusions and don't even try to look things up. I hate cancel culture. Leave Torvesta alone and focus on those two guys that actually did something wrong. They are the ones who deserve all these negative comments.
Torvesta’s entire trade history needs to be released! I have some serious questions about a few bronze med’s he purchased! Also, release his general store history! We need answers!
The amount of mental gymnastics you'd have to go through just to reason with OSRS players is insane. Common sense is completely out of the window. Though you can't really expect anything better from people who spend most of their days terminally online/in-game.
I was wondering why Soup was blurring out one of the account's names in GG. Was originally thinking it was someone else's account that didn't want their username to be public, but I can see why Soup wanted to blur it out now haha
Some ppl just jump to conclusions they are too low to understand how things roll, Instead of actually try to figure it out. dont worry Torvesta us that use our heads will support ya
Interesting to see A Friend seeking justice like this. I’m guessing after he got banned, he takes it personally when other (much more severe) rule breakers don’t
@@DrexSux Why don’t we just assume people are innocent until proven guilty instead of automatically jumping on people? Does Torvesta have to leak his entire Discord history and private DMs to prove his innocence? Like come on man.
@@DrexSux People can speculate all they want but that's just that, speculation. I suggest people to adopt very simple principle, innocent until proven guilty. So as long there is no evidence of Torvesta being involved, he is innocent.
Glad to know witch hunts and cancel culture have made its way to runescape. Deserved or not, this whole fiasco was pathetic. I also really wish we didn't have to pretend a man with a fetish is a woman for the purposes of this whole thing, because that's even more pathetic than this whole stupid drama.
My friends list for the longest time has been people that have Pk'd me, mostly so I can spot them easier or feel good about anti-pking them or escaping them for when they try again. Happens a lot during wildy boss pet grinds, especially now that they are updated.
This is getting out of hand… I get banning mccune permanently, but it’s overkill to edit the name out of the GG. If people are really about to cancel Torvesta over something so small, the RuneScape community has gotten way too soft.
@@Jachammer93 not hard when literally every streamer and youtuber gets accounts handed to them for videos almost all the time. Nothing new. Loans? Same deal.. Nothing new. Are you all new to OSRS or what?
Yeah I also remember that, and then seeing in a different frame that Soup must have missed that it was McCune, and wondering why he'd blur a name that wasn't offensive.
Listen right, my opinion, while nobody has to care about it. In my humble opinion, even tho i don't like Torvesta's content, i don't hate him as a person. We all make mistakes, we all been associated with some then less desireable people in our time. Let the guy live, Torvesta isn't probably involved in any of this so let the guy live. Hopefully people don't destroy him for no reason, unless of course Torvesta is guilty is some way but nobody knows. Don't be a sheep, use your own brain cells, don't jump to conclussions.
Don't say that they might come for you next. Crazy the world we live in now. You could get accused of anything and it will permanently scar others perception of you for a lifetime.
Crikey its a scammer theres 100s on osrs scamming people everyday! Good on you for catching one but until they are all stopped 2 people being banned means nothing
I'm so confused as an RS3 player, I thought account sharing was against the rules. How are people just casually allowed to log into other peoples accounts for youtube content? Or is that the difference between osrs and rs3?
It was allowed after Ian one of the old school runescape mods posted on twitter thanking their friends for leveling up one of their pures. After that post from a mod it started to become the norm and now the only thing you can't account share for are special achievements like inferno cape.
@Rhys H if you Wanna agrue semantics, then yes, it is, but jagex withholds that ruling for people that buy and sell services and not 2 friends that hop on each other's accounts. And if you still think you're correct, then why don't you verify with a jmod at this point so you can be educated?
A friend, yes you did good, now you are bragging already, be carefull, we still know you did promote gambling to kids. They did bad, very bad, but were you so much better? Do you realise how much of addiction is gambing, do you realise the consequences? I like your content, thank you for making it. Keep making runescape content for the money, this is why I watch you, and probably most of the viewers.
Ngl why would someone torv didnt associate with give him a 10b loan and a max account, Mccune and torv would of definitely spoke about HaHannie together. I don't actually believe hes as innocent as he thinks
Fan boys. Want attention and know their relatively safe in lending to a big content creator, content creators have to much to lose to scam someone. Content creators can get loan amounts and account loans without asking. People willingly offer them up.
@@jamii58 no but like accounts sharing tho and I'm pretty sure Him and torv have played a lot together over discord too, this would of been bound to come up and I know Torv is against trans people too
@@TheTretzo many people who have no ties or friendship to streamers and creators are willing to let them use accounts for videos. The fact he used it means literally nothing.
I checked out the 10b loan video and saw a comment by "Andrew" who said: "Taking a loan from McCune is like getting an interview with Harvey Weinstein. You can't put yourself in a worse position" lmao
Funny all the people hating on torvesta because by their logic anyone who associates with torvesta is also associated with McCune, I'd like to see them tell us everything about what/when/where one of their friends have been/doing for the past 6months😅😂
Keyword here is were. It's entirely possible that torvesta cut contact with McCune when hanannie made her video. Torvesta isn't obligated to keep up updated with his personal relationships.
I'm telling you dovy, something just doesn't add up! Please keep digging. The last comment you showed us, it doesn't sit well with me. Something very strange is going on, I swear I can feel it.
A Friend, look at this video ''I Found the Password to my HCIM I Made 5 Years Ago'' at 08:00, getting protection from your bois, lmfao. He is literally trusting McCune and Hard enough with his hardcore and being in discord with them. But surely clueless.
@@gnomestyle1873 It's called being two-faced. Happens quite a lot with sociopaths, really. They appear completely fine to one person or group of people, but show their true face to their victims (using a broad term). Really easy to do on something like Discord especially! My guess is that's what Torvesta's POV is like.
@@gnomestyle1873 It might be difficult to understand if you don't have plenty of friends but you can hang out with people for a long time and not know everything about them. Not everyone has to be your best friend
The Torvesta video you're referring to was January 1, 2022. The Hamannie expose video to McCune was July 28, 2022. Also, we don't know when Hamannie started the research to expose McCune, so that's a question to be brought up to her if the community is willing to inquire about that information; not to mention Hamannie supports Torvesta. There are many instances of content creators on this platform that have been assosiated with people for years only to be revealed to be scum. And those around them either couldn't take the idea of being around them because of scummy activity or weren't even aware of their behaviors or actions. HOWEVER, I don't think you are in the wrong for being sceptical. This is all very fresh and on the surface for all to see. It's best to look deeper and see what develops in this post Ban Arc we're a part of. We are in the Accused Arc now.
People do not need to be fortune tellers. Seems like torvesta and everyone did what they could to disassociate themselves, and everyone should leave them alone. Frankly, they shouldn’t even bother reading comments anymore since there’s nothing more they could’ve done. No one has a crystal ball everyone, so just leave them alone.
Unpopular opinion i guess: Ain't no way they didn't know he was like that before that. They were good friends and McCune was in many many videos. They knew him personally
Big respect Dovydas ❤️
Mine and Mccune’s interactions were only Runescape related. I stopped associating myself with him as soon as Hanannie’s video came out.
I will do better in the future and do more research into people. No more borrowing accounts from this point on.
Random but what happened to the loan? Paid back a while ago or what?
You wasn’t to know brother, love you. Keep doing your thing!
@@fujster who cares. Grow ip
I wouldn't take any of this personally dude. It's just a self-righteous minority of people clamoring to attack a popular figure
You need to be perma banned as well.
“I was hard with friends too…”
- A Friend 2023
It's not gay to be hard with the homies
wtf how did I miss that lol
lmao not gay if u keep ur socks on. -my gay friend
@@Dovydas. Don't worry, gay is the new straight.
Scrolled down to post this lmao.
“Bing chilling” he said like 10 times, oh dovy we love you
new dovydas arc: Bing Chillin vigilanty
dovydas has just discovered the words "bing chilling"
CSI: Lithuania needs to happen and Dovy is the lead detective!
given his past he's antag AND protag xD
@@TreeFrogOnATree more like antihero haha
CSI: Geilinor
we have it, its called Tadas Blinda
mans really is a friend to the osrs community, I know hes had his past but from my perspective he always owns his mistakes and continues to push forward and do better. keep up the great work dovy wish you had pmod back you'd be 90% more useful then most of the pmods out there.
He's using his position to weaponize jagex to get revenge for his friend's mistake. I wouldn't give him too much credit
@@maskettaman1488 shut the fuck up dude. Weaponizing Jagex?
@@maskettaman1488 💯 The salt was real
@@maskettaman1488 victim blaming. nice.
@@IzPkrPure Do you even know what that means?
They treating Torvesta like the Epstiens friends 😂
Lmao
Ghilaine maxwelling his nest 😂
Lol I though exactly the same.
Who? Can't find a single person mad at Torvesta
Typical reddit users
Free Torvesta he ain’t do nun
My boy is a victim of the circumstances.
@TB SPlASH Better torvesta have it than him tho 🤔
@@magster41 Its likely he didn’t know McCune was a bad dude until after he took that dono
@@magster41 It makes a huge difference between knowingly or unknowingly doing that.
@@magster41 better throw your phone away since its parts are made from child labour then made in a factory that is basically reinvented slave labour
i know its nothing to do with you but your using the phone so your just as bad as them
“i was hard with friends too”
nice dovy
so relatable
What’s crazy is the same thing almost happened to oda when I was watching his stream. Like a month ago MCune offered his account to oda because he wanted a max to pk on. Oda hopped on it and his twitch chat told him what mCune did and oda got off the account. Not everyone is up to date with rs drama. Unless you have real receipts like dms from torvesta and mccune you’re turning a decent person into a villain
the addition of bing chilling to Dovy's vocabulary is welcome
A Friend becoming coffezila of osrs
dovy is bing chilling
🥶
Trying to listen to Dovy being serious is impossible when he's dropping casual *bing chillings* in sentences
Dovy back in the limelight as a good guy and hero. this is a pog
Free Torvesta from Allegations
Yea this is like saying : You took a loan from a bank, so you must support everything they do.
Wokeness is a disease of the mind I swear.
And alligators
Torvnesta
Thank you for using actual reason to defend Torvesta and Soup.
Even in a best case scenario, each of them knew about this as soon as Hannanie posted her video. They knew amd they remained silent. As Hanannie says in her video, the people who stand idly by are jist as complicit
I feel the same way they're still suspicious to me.
huge props to you for covering this and defending some gamers when they (as far as we know i guess) havent done anything wrong at all.
you a true gamer.
It makes sense for someone like that to lend steamers/youtubers money/accounts. It makes them look pretty good overall, and generally gives off the impression they can be trusted
when shit hits the fan, nobody knows anything, nobody is a friend of anyone, you love to see it.
I didn't know Bowfa stands for Bow of Ferdinand, will use it in my next inferno attempt. Thanks Dovy!
What's bowfa? 😅
I am very impressed with torvesta he’s holding his ground and he’s not being rude he just wants to explain. Good on you torvesta keep grinding
Should have grinded to max and avoided all this mess. Ridiculous.
I hope Torvesta didn't pay back the loan yet, that would be icing on the cake.
Love his reply too like "woah bro, i used his account and took his gp, he's def not my friend."
Torv defo did pay him back
I think that reddit post hit it perfectly. Quit trying to cancel people and their careers over knowing someone who did something bad, unless they are like openly supporting or standing up for the crap it’s easy to assume he cut all ties after finding out.
That’s why McCune’s name was blurred out on some of the GG’s videos. I noticed that on the first or 2nd episode and even commented about it!
Everyone's trying to cancel torvesta meanwhile Framed was a known lurer back in the days
Framed’s nerd voice keeps him from being a top yter imo he’s a washed up UA-camr at this point didn’t even bother with his bronzeman
I believe Oda has also used the account Hard to pk on, not sure if that was said lol means nothing. Pkers are always on other accounts to not only hide their RSNs since people won't fight them or the opposite and stream snipe/rag them. Also, thanks for bringing this stuff back up. After seeing Hanannies vid not get the justice it deserved, it was nice following this little series and seeing them YEETED!
Love watching both of you play runescape, Torvesta for the pvp and you for the pvm. Still watching every video you two put out so keep em comin!
A friend is nothing but a coward, who beats on women controls them, and mentally abuses them the same guy who ran from his country, so he did not have to serve in the military
Correlation does not imply causation. We should be careful not to spoil a victory with a Witch Hunt.
Imagine thinking playing runescape in 2023 is a victory 🤣🤣
@@padarousou Getting rid of literal criminals who happen to also play the game is a victory :)
Drinking game: drink every time you hear a friend say "Bing chilling"
I think what most people take issue with is that Torvesta didn't say anything until McCune was banned. Understandably, some people might view that as "guess I'll talk about him now that I can't benefit from his account/money."
i dont think Torvesta was involved with mccune personally but it is a weird amount of interaction. its all just weird
I'm not a huge fan of Torvesta but at least he cleared it up and cut all ties with him.
GET BANNED AS WELL
He's not defending, but at the same time, I can understand some people's viewpoints.
Although he is not defending, he's being too quiet about it and not addressing it. It can appear as though he wants to sweep it under the rug. I don't think Torvesta associates with him anymore, but I get where some people come from. Ignoring it can come across as hiding it and can appear guilty.
Dovy, not the hero we deserve but the one we need.
Didn’t he sell gold?
Torvesta got me back into RS after being off for 7 years. His video of pk'ing streamers was recommended to me and ever since then I've been back. I feel bad that this happened to him. I hope it all blows over soon and he can continue without harassment
5:06 dovy being hard with friends
Honestly considering what Dovy is doing right now, it's obvious he didn't deserve to lose his pmod status.
It's really absurd the level of purity people need to be happy.
Self righteous redditors
This game wouldn't have existed for 10 years if it didn't have some level of integrity.
having someone on ur rs friends list is VERY different from having access to their maxed account. loans are one thing but access to the whole account is wild.
It's not wild at all when you're an extremely trusted and public figure of the game. I wouldn't give 99.99% of players access to my account. But I certainly wouldn't be concerned about giving access to Torvesta, Boaty or Dovy. It happens all the time for these huge streamers
@@minigooshey Ummm but the stronghold of security clearly says that account sharing is not allowed! 🤓☝
I don't like people bringing Torvesta into this. You can interact with someone and not know about what they do behind the scenes. Torvesta not addressing this isn't suspicious at all if he had nothing to do with the bad stuff. Its just a lose-lose Streisand effect. I also think its completely unnecessary for Soup to blur anything since it wouldn't be an endorsement of McCune. I think the internet outrage mob takes away from the Win by going way too hard whenever something like this happens
With outrage, comes change, with jagex rarely enforcing their rules on the incels, the outrage is long over due.
@@EugeneYus That is a horrible mentality. Too much outrage doesn't do any good
Indeed, it's like nothing is enough for the mob, so without any evidence they expand their outrage to people who had nothing to do with it, ridiculous.
@@Verlisify a lot of outrage brought osrs back to us back in 2013, this new outrage against incel behavior is completely necessary
Torvesta is not innocent and I have proof
This is why I hate internet. Internet is full of people who just jump to conclusions and don't even try to look things up. I hate cancel culture.
Leave Torvesta alone and focus on those two guys that actually did something wrong. They are the ones who deserve all these negative comments.
Criticizing people is not "cancel culture", dimwit.
@@donthasselthehoff5753 like you would even know what word "criticize" means when you straight out go and call people names on the internet.
Torvesta’s entire trade history needs to be released! I have some serious questions about a few bronze med’s he purchased! Also, release his general store history! We need answers!
This drama is so cringe I don't even want to bother learning about what the accusations are tbh
Imagine if Sir Pugger was accused of being friends with all the bots and farm accounts he has added? 😆
The amount of mental gymnastics you'd have to go through just to reason with OSRS players is insane. Common sense is completely out of the window. Though you can't really expect anything better from people who spend most of their days terminally online/in-game.
I was wondering why Soup was blurring out one of the account's names in GG. Was originally thinking it was someone else's account that didn't want their username to be public, but I can see why Soup wanted to blur it out now haha
Some ppl just jump to conclusions they are too low to understand how things roll, Instead of actually try to figure it out. dont worry Torvesta us that use our heads will support ya
Interesting to see A Friend seeking justice like this. I’m guessing after he got banned, he takes it personally when other (much more severe) rule breakers don’t
Is it justice though? What if Torvesta is actually involved in this stuff?
@@DrexSux Why don’t we just assume people are innocent until proven guilty instead of automatically jumping on people? Does Torvesta have to leak his entire Discord history and private DMs to prove his innocence? Like come on man.
@@DrexSux People can speculate all they want but that's just that, speculation. I suggest people to adopt very simple principle, innocent until proven guilty. So as long there is no evidence of Torvesta being involved, he is innocent.
@@DrexSux torvesta is shady
This just shows how quick people are to judge. They would throw someone under the bus so quick. Kinda sucks tbh.
Glad to know witch hunts and cancel culture have made its way to runescape. Deserved or not, this whole fiasco was pathetic.
I also really wish we didn't have to pretend a man with a fetish is a woman for the purposes of this whole thing, because that's even more pathetic than this whole stupid drama.
My friends list for the longest time has been people that have Pk'd me, mostly so I can spot them easier or feel good about anti-pking them or escaping them for when they try again. Happens a lot during wildy boss pet grinds, especially now that they are updated.
This is getting out of hand… I get banning mccune permanently, but it’s overkill to edit the name out of the GG. If people are really about to cancel Torvesta over something so small, the RuneScape community has gotten way too soft.
Just society as a whole
10b loan ain’t small that’s a couple grand
It's really weird that torvesta knew the guy well enough to get his pw though
@@matthewlee8618 10b is not that much to the high level community, especially when you're doing it in such a public way with such a public figure.
@@Jachammer93 not hard when literally every streamer and youtuber gets accounts handed to them for videos almost all the time. Nothing new. Loans? Same deal.. Nothing new. Are you all new to OSRS or what?
Bird nest in the clear, Good I had a feeling
Okay this is super serious but 5:05 got me cracking lmfao
LOOOL
The true test of friendship
It's not that serious
Same😂
LOOOOOOL
Been watching Dovy for like 11 Years, never gave up on Dovy ! Glad I never did !
Big W take. Alot deeper lessons than just runescape, it could extend to "cancel culture" or just jumping to any conclusions. Much respect Dovy
I noticed he had blurred a name in the episodes 2:35 but this clarifies my curiosity of why
Yeah I also remember that, and then seeing in a different frame that Soup must have missed that it was McCune, and wondering why he'd blur a name that wasn't offensive.
Soup apologizing for not completely blurring a name is wild to me
Torvesta gonna have to start uploading on a daily now to keep his subs up
And btw bow of ferdinand made me chuckle
Can't believe they named armour after Torvesta and then he goes and does those. Jagex must be FURIOUS
Is your fishing level 99?
Idk if you’re trolling but if not you’re brain dead
@@trevorcalhoon7175 no i don't even play runestone
what did he do
@@punoko6062 did you not watch the wideo?
5:05 "I was hard with friends too" - A Friend 2023
A Friend became Sir Pugger overnight.
All he needs to do now is add Spooky to his videos.
Just an fyi, both hard and mccunes alts were not banned. They didn't lose much at all except hard losing his rsn
Bow of Ferdinand😂😂😂😂
Listen right, my opinion, while nobody has to care about it.
In my humble opinion, even tho i don't like Torvesta's content, i don't hate him as a person. We all make mistakes, we all been associated with some then less desireable people in our time. Let the guy live, Torvesta isn't probably involved in any of this so let the guy live. Hopefully people don't destroy him for no reason, unless of course Torvesta is guilty is some way but nobody knows.
Don't be a sheep, use your own brain cells, don't jump to conclussions.
Don't say that they might come for you next. Crazy the world we live in now. You could get accused of anything and it will permanently scar others perception of you for a lifetime.
People jump to conclusions so fast.
Its scary how so many people just jumps to a conclusion and believe the first thing they hear. Hopefully they wont be a judge in a courtroom.
Dovy milking this so hard lol, nice work getting another 10+ min vid out on the subject
P.s. Mccune bad
Seeing as this whole situation matters a lot to people, I don't see why he wouldn't tbh. More clarification = more better
probably a ridiculous amount of people had hard on their friends list thinking it was still Lake because he used to have that name on his hc.
Crikey its a scammer theres 100s on osrs scamming people everyday! Good on you for catching one but until they are all stopped 2 people being banned means nothing
I'm so confused as an RS3 player, I thought account sharing was against the rules. How are people just casually allowed to log into other peoples accounts for youtube content?
Or is that the difference between osrs and rs3?
It’s really only against the rules if you sell the account to someone else.
account sharing stopped being bannable years go i think around 2016? the rules also apply to both games so if its true for one its true for the other.
It was allowed after Ian one of the old school runescape mods posted on twitter thanking their friends for leveling up one of their pures. After that post from a mod it started to become the norm and now the only thing you can't account share for are special achievements like inferno cape.
@@queensnusnu9653 nope. You can be banned for just having anyone log into your account on rs3
@Rhys H if you Wanna agrue semantics, then yes, it is, but jagex withholds that ruling for people that buy and sell services and not 2 friends that hop on each other's accounts. And if you still think you're correct, then why don't you verify with a jmod at this point so you can be educated?
A friend, yes you did good, now you are bragging already, be carefull, we still know you did promote gambling to kids. They did bad, very bad, but were you so much better? Do you realise how much of addiction is gambing, do you realise the consequences? I like your content, thank you for making it. Keep making runescape content for the money, this is why I watch you, and probably most of the viewers.
What about that interview you said gonna review or comment on? Is that interview up? And on which channel?
I respect this video, truely A Friend
BTS
Dovy: “so we good”
Torv: “yeh yeh don’t worry, just don’t forget to put my name in the title”
Torvesta is the goat it's like impossible for me to hate him or scroll by and not click on his videos ❤
dude is that an i-ninja profile pic lol
@@PppedOwL holy fuck it is
People need to stop thinking with their fee-fees and rub 2 brain cells together before jumping to conclusions and damaging someone's reputation
"BING CHILING!" -Dovy
Many of us are 100's of mills. Due to dieing uncircumstantial deaths
Man no way we got cancel culture people playing osrs
Settled did McCune like Roosterteeth did Ryan Haywood
bing chilling
who the hell is mccune
You middle schoolers need to chill
Ngl why would someone torv didnt associate with give him a 10b loan and a max account, Mccune and torv would of definitely spoke about HaHannie together. I don't actually believe hes as innocent as he thinks
Fan boys. Want attention and know their relatively safe in lending to a big content creator, content creators have to much to lose to scam someone. Content creators can get loan amounts and account loans without asking. People willingly offer them up.
@@jamii58 no but like accounts sharing tho and I'm pretty sure Him and torv have played a lot together over discord too, this would of been bound to come up and I know Torv is against trans people too
@@TheTretzo many people who have no ties or friendship to streamers and creators are willing to let them use accounts for videos. The fact he used it means literally nothing.
Free Torvesta!
I checked out the 10b loan video and saw a comment by "Andrew" who said: "Taking a loan from McCune is like getting an interview with Harvey Weinstein. You can't put yourself in a worse position"
lmao
Can we stop with the cancel culture please?
So hypocritical as well... a man who is infamous for breaking rs rules making such a big deal about other ppl doing it
@@padarousou maybe watch the video first?
No such as thing as "cancel culture". It's called accountability for your actions.
@@donthasselthehoff5753 No, it's called mind your own business.
Funny all the people hating on torvesta because by their logic anyone who associates with torvesta is also associated with McCune, I'd like to see them tell us everything about what/when/where one of their friends have been/doing for the past 6months😅😂
You are really milking this huh
if there is video after this about same topic we can say that he is milking it
"I was hard with friends too" - A Friend 2023
I mean most people know torv and McCune were somewhat of friends. They used to pk together and stuff
So who gives a fuck
@@TheBasedBalkan no one does. It doesn't matter lol
"used to pk together" is like a step down from being business associates. It definitely doesn't mean they are friends.
Keyword here is were. It's entirely possible that torvesta cut contact with McCune when hanannie made her video. Torvesta isn't obligated to keep up updated with his personal relationships.
«Most people», who tf you talking about 😂 Most people didnt know who this piece of shit was.
I'm telling you dovy, something just doesn't add up! Please keep digging. The last comment you showed us, it doesn't sit well with me. Something very strange is going on, I swear I can feel it.
If only u knew bro
A Friend, look at this video ''I Found the Password to my HCIM I Made 5 Years Ago'' at 08:00, getting protection from your bois, lmfao. He is literally trusting McCune and Hard enough with his hardcore and being in discord with them. But surely clueless.
Look at when that video came out and then look at when torvesta stopped using his account. quit trying to cancel the wrong people clown.
@@TheBach173 My point is, if you are this close to some degenerates and you are clueless for years? I don't really buy it.
@@gnomestyle1873 It's called being two-faced. Happens quite a lot with sociopaths, really. They appear completely fine to one person or group of people, but show their true face to their victims (using a broad term). Really easy to do on something like Discord especially! My guess is that's what Torvesta's POV is like.
@@gnomestyle1873 It might be difficult to understand if you don't have plenty of friends but you can hang out with people for a long time and not know everything about them. Not everyone has to be your best friend
The Torvesta video you're referring to was January 1, 2022. The Hamannie expose video to McCune was July 28, 2022. Also, we don't know when Hamannie started the research to expose McCune, so that's a question to be brought up to her if the community is willing to inquire about that information; not to mention Hamannie supports Torvesta.
There are many instances of content creators on this platform that have been assosiated with people for years only to be revealed to be scum. And those around them either couldn't take the idea of being around them because of scummy activity or weren't even aware of their behaviors or actions.
HOWEVER, I don't think you are in the wrong for being sceptical. This is all very fresh and on the surface for all to see. It's best to look deeper and see what develops in this post Ban Arc we're a part of. We are in the Accused Arc now.
People do not need to be fortune tellers. Seems like torvesta and everyone did what they could to disassociate themselves, and everyone should leave them alone. Frankly, they shouldn’t even bother reading comments anymore since there’s nothing more they could’ve done. No one has a crystal ball everyone, so just leave them alone.
Unpopular opinion i guess: Ain't no way they didn't know he was like that before that. They were good friends and McCune was in many many videos. They knew him personally