He's technically only risking $500 with a low chance of losing it(due to skill) to make a few hundred to a thousand or so back via views, ads and merch sales. You have to think of it that way. The GP means nothing to him or anyone else that risks big chunks and makes content with it. :p If he loses it, he'll just buy it back for the loaner through bonds with the money he makes off a video. It's the same thing with any "crazy" RS gp risk videos. It's for the channel entertainment, which pays their bills and savings accounts, they don't truly care about the gp profit :p
@@BrothersofOG I'm just telling the truth. As soon as he reached 400 thousand he literally started to beg the fuck out of everyone to sub screaming in every way and place possible
Torv, I'm a retired player, I used to play RuneScape a lot back in my teenage years but I have quit for many years now. I still find enjoyment watching your videos even though I don't understand any of the newer content. Thanks for the videos :)
LOL that was me at 3:48 in the salad robes hahahahahaha. I knew I saw you in the caves, I literally remember this moment. I see this insanely decked out guy, I'm a giant pvp noob and left after barraging you. Can't believe I saw you and made the video
since you're not opposed to alting in this series, try some gwd or slayer bosses. 4 bowfa's or tbows will smack arma or zily no problem, and spectransfer/heal other slayer is mega quick also maybe a cheeky lil inferno run later?
"usually you'd only get 2 twisted bows in there" you can actually get 4 bows and 3 pipes in there. Even just clicking zulrah without hiding you get 3 bows. You have to let zulrah hit you before you go behind the pillar to properly pillar stall
But while youre rich id love to see you do rushing in MAX MAX with full torva, ancestral, volatile, the whole nine yards. I think your audience would love that. Just don't die
@@azentra7560 50gp per teleport charge, tele takes what 6 ticks? U can do 1000 teleports an hour multiply that with 100 accounts and youre making 5m/h in total :D gonna have to bond 100 accounts and have money for the glories to start with so probably not even worth it :D
@@BanaaniSuuhun so you're looking at 50k per hour per account requiring membership, and this is not something you can really hide with the teleport locations. So bots like these would probably get found, reported and banned within like 2 hours of working, doubt that's worth the membership
More of this pls! Also in the final summary, could you list a estimate of the gp/hr? If this becomes multiple episodes/series you could evencompare all methods in the end. Would be fun to see. Cheers
Tbh I don't mind watching you pk in cheap gear. It's actually more interesting to see how much someone like you could do with items an average pker will have. And its a lot more funnier when you pk someone with considerably better gear than you.
I think this is more so he can afford to test out new weapons/armour when they come out. Even if he doesn't die in a video, he sometimes loses 100s of mills from prices dropping.
That’s the cost of making sweet videos. But you’re one of the best players, so you can definitely get where you want. Just take your time and enjoy the game. 🙏🏻👍🏻
I have 2 ideas, world 392 at gnome, ppl tele in every 15 mins or so, if you wait upstairs in maxed strength and smite with claws and a elder maul, you can kill people that have blighted potions and 90% of people take there prayer off forgeting its pvp and go upstairs without protect item... the second idea is special minipulation, i showed framed how to do it and he made a video on it the next day, what you do is spec with a dds, wait until you 95% spec and about to regain another 10%, you then spec with the volatile, and when your special regenerates you can then spec again straight after with ags or claws or dark bow or granite maul.... people dont expect it expecially if your wearing mage gear when you volatile spec. Also if you stand outside ferox enclave you can attack people as soon as they leave the door on pvp worlds, ive used the new crate ring to hide and ive killed a few ppl for craws bow and claws doing it
Would have liked to have heard a shoutout for Rhys, who did maxed gear revs for like 3 videos in a row recently. That's where I think the inspo came from, and if it didn't, then fair enough. Cheers for the vid.
Torv, we love you, your epic, and thanks for being an RS God. I'm older than you and played RS classic for years but I could only aspire to have your dedication to the game. Thanks man
Well Made!! :) If I might request I think an addition would be Maybe Farming Shamans for Warhammer with a bunch of cannons... >.> in best in slot gear? Thats just an idea though. The Profit would be a fixated equation of supply VS time period spent for amount of war-hammers gained.
Loved this video, I feel like people with over max cash stack would rather show it off than make videos about all the crazy risky stuff they can do to make more GP in the game. Very different kind of Runescape vid, that's for sure.
The eternal glory thing, you weren’t technically dry and actually got pretty lucky. 59k glories across 4 accounts is 14,750 glories each, which put you at roughly half the drop rate.
lmaoo i dont follow runescape lore anymore but did watch A Friends video. Yall need to stop with the cancel culture shit. You're only hurting yourselves.
Torvesta most likely didn't know of this guys shady ways and this video is a lot older than Hannanie's. Btw acting high and mighty is pretty lame, I'm sure at some point in your life you've associated or also been friends with a shitty person before you found out the type of person they really are, should you be judged for it? Obviously not.
Bro get the fuck outa here. This was long before ANY of that info came out. 8 months ago... first video by hanannie wasn't until several months after that. Jumping to conclusions when you have no info on the situation and apparently haven't gotten caught up with anything else coming out today?
@@Osteoporos1s No you gtfoh, so what that this was 8 months ago. You mean to tell me a player of torvesta's caliber with all the experience hes had playing this game did not find Mccune having 10 bil to give away suspicious? And in that time frame of 8 months never found out anything bad about Mccune? Haha, please. Torvesta I am sure was aware but he can easily pretend he had no idea and just play stupid.
@@TH-wp7ye Lots of people in this game are vastly wealthy and aren't pieces of shit like McCune. How in the FUCK was he supposed to know that Mccune was like that? Act like you never misjudged anyone in your life, so weak.
Growing magic saplings pretty good. Since u can afford to buy bis for everything you can do nex for almost 14m/hr. You can also do tob/Cox in max gear too, if you learn solos that would be huge. Crafting zenyte jewelry is a substantial profit/hr.
never change birdnesta starts the video with "im so poor i lose money every video, so in this video im making money... by risking max gear worth 1.4B i paid for with a loan, where i cant teleport to make 1 mill per trip" (obviously hes doing it for the content, its just funny)
Would like to see you and Rhys collab on some kinda short series some times. Feel like you guys make a good duo. 10:26 if you are doing the key method you wanna pre injure your alts so they all die instantly otherwise you will lose significant time.
Back when glories were about 45k, there used to be a guy who ran half the glory market. He would have about 30 level 3’s running glories following a single account. I’m not sure how he charged them, but I had some screen shots of him running these accounts. He would make bills in a week doing this every day
with that gear? do TOB. Hydra. Maybe even phosani's nightmare. Those are your good moneymakers. Nightmare gives scarce drops but they're so valuable that when you get one you're basically getting upwards of 4M an hour if you do it efficiently (scythe and all). Nex too. You should try those.
I wonder if you could "split" the 10B into two funds, one where you flip for money on the side and one where you do money making methods using max gear and then compare them. Great vid as always
Flipping is really rng based. You either make consistent money which caps out around 5% of your cashstack for the day, or you get really lucky and buy something for really low or sell something for really high (like absurd margins, shit that profits you mils in 1 flip)
Here's some potential money makers if you can gear up multiple accounts. Godwars bandos or zamy 2 worlds, 2 accounts per world, max gear tanks should make it not too crazy to manage. Or just stick to one world to not get carpel tunnel. Multi log fully geared rune dragon accounts or vyres, blood shards are pricey atm. Max gear solo cox runs, can scale them up for points. NIghtmare and nex clips are always fun to watch. Probably boring, but could try averice green drags multiple accounts, the west ones been very empty lately, because gold farmers moved to revs. Wildy slayer caves on or off task with averice (not sure if you can kill stuff off task, but if you can, bursting nechreals or abbys with averice sounds interesting)
This video just taught me that platinum tokens exist 0_0 I've been playing for 4 years and I had no clue that there were other currency denominations in this game
While I do find it a bit strange, given reason events. I'm glad things have been cleared up. though I am amazed nothing has occurred over the GP exchanging hands. I would assumed that's been dealt with in some way or another. Whether good, or bad is up for debate I suppose.
Torvesta is a humble man, he only started with a small loan of 10 billion gp
lol
I miss President Trump
@@cockroachv best comedian of our generation
@@cockroachv I never knew shitposters could become president until he did it. He’s given us a whole new perspective on our potential.
@@nickthompson1812 *single Native American tear*
ahh yes classic torvesta risking a bill to make a solid 1 - 2m per trip
He is doing it for views, to make it more intense interesting for viewer. He coould esily take cheaper gear
@@elvin2010ify ye u right u right
@@elvin2010ify holy
He's technically only risking $500 with a low chance of losing it(due to skill) to make a few hundred to a thousand or so back via views, ads and merch sales. You have to think of it that way. The GP means nothing to him or anyone else that risks big chunks and makes content with it. :p If he loses it, he'll just buy it back for the loaner through bonds with the money he makes off a video. It's the same thing with any "crazy" RS gp risk videos. It's for the channel entertainment, which pays their bills and savings accounts, they don't truly care about the gp profit :p
@@Xnate13X This is the real play, its not the game that's the money make, its the video.
This video went surprisingly well. Cant wait to see you lose it all in part 2 lol
I bet he’ll hold on tight.
I love Torvesta. But losing it all is kind of Torvesta's M.O.
If he's smart he will just camp raids and try to pay back the loan.
@@atlesifeyst2185 We all know he ain't paying that loan back with anything but RWT
2022 and people still dont know the difference between lose and loose
I know you weren't the first to 500k subscribers but I saw that you reached 200m views. Which is insane for an OSRS channel. Congratulations.
Because he didn't went all the way out and begged to be the first to 500k like someone did
@@gertsaar7671 you’re more hurt over it than torv is
@@BrothersofOG I'm just telling the truth. As soon as he reached 400 thousand he literally started to beg the fuck out of everyone to sub screaming in every way and place possible
Who is it anyways? At first I thought it was sparc mac but I guess I was wrong.
@@Slurpified it was settled
Torvesta: I have no money
Also Torvesta: risk 3B in Wildy
Risk?
Do you know how hard it is to kill someone with that gear on? 😅
@@WhoThisMonkey bruh it’s ez. Just apply at gageks and ddos the guy
Oh so this is risking but when I eat to full hp and tab I'm a "safer" and I should "kill myself"
@@WhoThisMonkey i mean it's not just the gear when you combine pking knowledge + mechanics it's near impossible
@@WhoThisMonkey wonder how much a clan could make just protecting somebody exchanging emblems all day
only torvesta won't even bank 2.1bill in tokens when going back for the remaining 1.4b in statues
Had to rematch that, wonder where he shops to find underwear to accommodate those massive balls
@@JamesMarcus867 got the time ?
@@americanpatriot6938 7:30
@@americanpatriot6938 Yes it's 17:45
@@JamesMarcus867 manscaped.
Genius. That’s what every poor person needs - an enormous loan.
LOOOL
200iq torva
A small loan of 10 billion GP
True. What could go wrong? Can't think of anything bad that has or could happen from doing that.
@@nahchocheeze7235 It's only pretend money, whether it's GP or the money you use to pay your bills!!
Even with a small loan of 10b i would still suck
"Take a 10B loan"
Next week's video:
"Banned for RWT"
@A Friend
What he makes from UA-cam is more then what that gold is worth that’s the sad thing
he wasnt even playing on his own account so he'll be fine lmao
@@dannymate1209 what point are u making
@@dannymate1209 why sad? He spends hours upon hours creating quality content. Its called work my man. Keep it up torvesta 👍
Torv, I'm a retired player, I used to play RuneScape a lot back in my teenage years but I have quit for many years now. I still find enjoyment watching your videos even though I don't understand any of the newer content. Thanks for the videos :)
You should make a new account, just go slow, have fun, do the quests. Zeah additions are extremely enjoyable.
Grow up and do something with your life 😂😂
@@PineyJustice exactly what i did almost quest cape
Taking a loan from McCune is like getting an interview with Harvey Weinstein. You can't put yourself in a worse position
When I started this company and grew it from 10B to 10.5B I had a dream; I had a dream and I had a 10B loan.
LOL that was me at 3:48 in the salad robes hahahahahaha. I knew I saw you in the caves, I literally remember this moment. I see this insanely decked out guy, I'm a giant pvp noob and left after barraging you. Can't believe I saw you and made the video
Haven’t played RS in years but always loved your videos. Thanks for always making them quality and not quantity
Yeah this was a damn good video I don't even play any more lol
since you're not opposed to alting in this series, try some gwd or slayer bosses. 4 bowfa's or tbows will smack arma or zily no problem, and spectransfer/heal other slayer is mega quick
also maybe a cheeky lil inferno run later?
There is no content in the OSRS space tonight
Torvesta at 03:35 UK: I think I will upload
"usually you'd only get 2 twisted bows in there"
you can actually get 4 bows and 3 pipes in there. Even just clicking zulrah without hiding you get 3 bows. You have to let zulrah hit you before you go behind the pillar to properly pillar stall
But while youre rich id love to see you do rushing in MAX MAX with full torva, ancestral, volatile, the whole nine yards. I think your audience would love that. Just don't die
Na not interested
UA-camr Rhys does that everyday lol
Not to cock block Torvesta but Rhys does this daily, or close to.
@wyatt dineen never thought about this lol
Charged glories costing less than uncharged ones is actually insane
New money maker, uncharging amulets of glory
@@azentra7560 don’t give the bots ideas, you’ll see 1000 of them spamming edge telly’s to waste charges 😂
All for that 300 gp every 6 teleports😂
@@azentra7560 50gp per teleport charge, tele takes what 6 ticks? U can do 1000 teleports an hour multiply that with 100 accounts and youre making 5m/h in total :D gonna have to bond 100 accounts and have money for the glories to start with so probably not even worth it :D
@@BanaaniSuuhun so you're looking at 50k per hour per account requiring membership, and this is not something you can really hide with the teleport locations. So bots like these would probably get found, reported and banned within like 2 hours of working, doubt that's worth the membership
More of this pls! Also in the final summary, could you list a estimate of the gp/hr? If this becomes multiple episodes/series you could evencompare all methods in the end. Would be fun to see. Cheers
These homemade ads are refreshing. I actually don't mind watching them, since they're not made by a team trying to be as efficient as possible.
Love how you received the loan in lumbridge castle top bank 😂
Tbh I don't mind watching you pk in cheap gear. It's actually more interesting to see how much someone like you could do with items an average pker will have. And its a lot more funnier when you pk someone with considerably better gear than you.
I think this is more so he can afford to test out new weapons/armour when they come out. Even if he doesn't die in a video, he sometimes loses 100s of mills from prices dropping.
i can hear the sorrow in his voice when he says he's going to cry LMAO good commitment
That’s the cost of making sweet videos. But you’re one of the best players, so you can definitely get where you want. Just take your time and enjoy the game. 🙏🏻👍🏻
Torvesta drinking game idea:
Take a shot every time you hear the word "Risk"
I'm already wasted
I have 2 ideas, world 392 at gnome, ppl tele in every 15 mins or so, if you wait upstairs in maxed strength and smite with claws and a elder maul, you can kill people that have blighted potions and 90% of people take there prayer off forgeting its pvp and go upstairs without protect item... the second idea is special minipulation, i showed framed how to do it and he made a video on it the next day, what you do is spec with a dds, wait until you 95% spec and about to regain another 10%, you then spec with the volatile, and when your special regenerates you can then spec again straight after with ags or claws or dark bow or granite maul.... people dont expect it expecially if your wearing mage gear when you volatile spec. Also if you stand outside ferox enclave you can attack people as soon as they leave the door on pvp worlds, ive used the new crate ring to hide and ive killed a few ppl for craws bow and claws doing it
Special attack timing has been a thing since Korasi's sword, maybe even longer.
@@MinisculeBug I miss that sword
Torvesta was so poor, the ducks threw bread as him. He was so poor, when he went to KFC, he licked other people's fingers.
Would have liked to have heard a shoutout for Rhys, who did maxed gear revs for like 3 videos in a row recently. That's where I think the inspo came from, and if it didn't, then fair enough. Cheers for the vid.
Torv, we love you, your epic, and thanks for being an RS God. I'm older than you and played RS classic for years but I could only aspire to have your dedication to the game. Thanks man
Life is good when you get a Solo Mission and Torvesta video notification on the same day
Well Made!! :)
If I might request I think an addition would be Maybe Farming Shamans for Warhammer with a bunch of cannons... >.> in best in slot gear?
Thats just an idea though. The Profit would be a fixated equation of supply VS time period spent for amount of war-hammers gained.
First you should give Rhys credit, then you should go rushing in pvp worlds in the new max gear. Go for the 50-50 maul or dds
takes 10b loan from mcune, uses mcunes account to do pvm. i am confused.
Same
he has infernal cape, would rather do in complete max
@@TorvestaRS gotcha ;)
When you buy 10 b from someone, but you dont want jagex to flag you.
Thats exactly what im saying how is he special from the rest of us? 😂😂
Only a small 10b loan Torvesta is like a rich Instagram influencer 😂
Legit watched this twice already! Don't even play OSRS anymore but always keen to see your uploads man! Keep up the great content!
Same here
Please do more of these, easily one of your best videos ever… which says a lot.
Farm skill specs, typically a good money maker
might be the fastest ive ever skipped an ad, torvesta said truman show and i panned on the video clicked ahead and was right when it ended
Sorry buddy taking loans from the viewers is a very niche market and its already taken.
I feel like you could have made close to that just killing vorkath, and also wouldn't be risking billions that you technically didn't even have...
😆😆😆 The tiny "Skill Specs" on the hat at the end 🤣
7:49 lmfao he grabed the max cash stack of plats
When you showed Ians POV, it revealed that you’re on the account MCcune, the account that supposedly gave you the 10b. What am i missing here
Exposed, good job
Might have re-record trade interface for vid. Or faked idk
My account doesn't have infernal cape, wanted to do it in complete max
When 10bil isnt enough so you just borrow the whole account
Someone’s got a little explaining to do!
Loved this video, I feel like people with over max cash stack would rather show it off than make videos about all the crazy risky stuff they can do to make more GP in the game. Very different kind of Runescape vid, that's for sure.
The eternal glory thing, you weren’t technically dry and actually got pretty lucky. 59k glories across 4 accounts is 14,750 glories each, which put you at roughly half the drop rate.
lmaoo i dont follow runescape lore anymore but did watch A Friends video. Yall need to stop with the cancel culture shit. You're only hurting yourselves.
Small loan of some osrs onlyfans gp
smoothest transition into an ad i've seen in a long time
All these vpn ads assume i pay for netflix instead of pirating tv
Nice you got a 10b loan from a scammer, glad to see the types you hang with unsubbing
This was 8 months ago...hannanie's video came out AFTER this loan happened
Torvesta most likely didn't know of this guys shady ways and this video is a lot older than Hannanie's. Btw acting high and mighty is pretty lame, I'm sure at some point in your life you've associated or also been friends with a shitty person before you found out the type of person they really are, should you be judged for it? Obviously not.
Bro get the fuck outa here. This was long before ANY of that info came out. 8 months ago... first video by hanannie wasn't until several months after that. Jumping to conclusions when you have no info on the situation and apparently haven't gotten caught up with anything else coming out today?
@@Osteoporos1s No you gtfoh, so what that this was 8 months ago. You mean to tell me a player of torvesta's caliber with all the experience hes had playing this game did not find Mccune having 10 bil to give away suspicious? And in that time frame of 8 months never found out anything bad about Mccune? Haha, please. Torvesta I am sure was aware but he can easily pretend he had no idea and just play stupid.
@@TH-wp7ye Lots of people in this game are vastly wealthy and aren't pieces of shit like McCune. How in the FUCK was he supposed to know that Mccune was like that? Act like you never misjudged anyone in your life, so weak.
Taking a loan from a wellknown scammer that scams his vieuwers lmao
Zebra a loser
you can legit feel the relieve @ 11:20 lmao
Torvesta is really going places, not school. But places
You mean lumbridge?
İ checked the video length at the 3.4B risk part just to make sure it didn’t end there 😅
this is the smartest vpn ad ive seen. actually showing the use
POV you looking at youtubes fresh what to watch and see Torvesta just dropped this banger, we are in for a treat bois
Just a casual "I'm out of here" then ohhh it's Ian 🤣🤣
I gotta admit, you got me with that sponsor this time ya clever bastard.
2:57 my dood kept it real 😂😂😂
Growing magic saplings pretty good.
Since u can afford to buy bis for everything you can do nex for almost 14m/hr. You can also do tob/Cox in max gear too, if you learn solos that would be huge. Crafting zenyte jewelry is a substantial profit/hr.
never change birdnesta
starts the video with "im so poor i lose money every video, so in this video im making money... by risking max gear worth 1.4B i paid for with a loan, where i cant teleport to make 1 mill per trip"
(obviously hes doing it for the content, its just funny)
I love how you said “SOUTH Korea” as if we wouldn’t have known it wasn’t north
give rhys the credit he deserves for the skulled max gear revs idea
Litterally stole the exact concept from rhys
@@danielvanhattem3483 ikr, just a mention would have been enough, but ohwell
smart advert, you make them interesting instead of just an annoyance, kudos.
You’ve got some nice nail polish on where you’re holding the plush doll.
That salad robe warrior getting on you and logging off is the funniest thing😂 he could onky pray you were afk or dced in that moment
Lmfao that was me! I was like "dude this guy is an osrs Chad I have no chance"
The Lee judges sound bite caught me completely off guard
Torvesta's nails lookin pretty clean at 7:55
Plot twist, ROT shows up to collect another 1b plus donation.
Would like to see you and Rhys collab on some kinda short series some times. Feel like you guys make a good duo.
10:26 if you are doing the key method you wanna pre injure your alts so they all die instantly otherwise you will lose significant time.
Strange seeing the village castle in the plush ad. Pretty sure I walked right past you with my dog and didn't recognize you.
We need a torvesta heart rate meter in the top corner throughout the video
smooth intro to the sponsor ad lol
In every video where u end up making some form of profit it feels like a happy ending! So; thats good!
Keep it up with the vids, Torv!
Loved the vid!!! But 85m is a long way from 10b. U did make 9m in 2mins with the emblems so might do it for an hour and make 270m :)
Back when glories were about 45k, there used to be a guy who ran half the glory market. He would have about 30 level 3’s running glories following a single account. I’m not sure how he charged them, but I had some screen shots of him running these accounts. He would make bills in a week doing this every day
Heroes guild fountain
@@tappajaav no. This was deep wild. He had a train of level 3’s with inventories of glories and rings of wealth
Torv said I made a very large amount in a short amount of time.. charges glories for 9 hours. 😂😂
That ad transition was smooth asf
with that gear? do TOB. Hydra. Maybe even phosani's nightmare. Those are your good moneymakers. Nightmare gives scarce drops but they're so valuable that when you get one you're basically getting upwards of 4M an hour if you do it efficiently (scythe and all).
Nex too. You should try those.
Odablock Jr.
1:03. Pack yak lol nice rs3 reference
I wonder if you could "split" the 10B into two funds, one where you flip for money on the side and one where you do money making methods using max gear and then compare them. Great vid as always
Flipping is functionally dead with the tax system
@@Gabebox oh i'm out of touch with the updates thanks for letting me know.
@@Gabebox It's not lmfao I make 5m+ a day with 100m+ cashstack lol. The tax just made the margins bigger.
Flipping is really rng based. You either make consistent money which caps out around 5% of your cashstack for the day, or you get really lucky and buy something for really low or sell something for really high (like absurd margins, shit that profits you mils in 1 flip)
Ayooo I’m coming back to rs very soon. Can’t wait. See you beasts there.
"I'm broke, so I'm gonna risk going 10 billion in debt" this mentality is not healthy for most people
ZCB spec for first hit at Zulrah > Voli IMO. Basically always hit a 49.
Was that the geezer from AFTV that said " see yaa later your not good enough " 😂
I think it’s a smart switch up. Going from skill specs level dying vids to PVE money making vids
Your persobality is what saves the private server-esque content.
Cant even call it a Rhys copycat because you made it enjoyable.
Here's some potential money makers if you can gear up multiple accounts.
Godwars bandos or zamy 2 worlds, 2 accounts per world, max gear tanks should make it not too crazy to manage. Or just stick to one world to not get carpel tunnel.
Multi log fully geared rune dragon accounts or vyres, blood shards are pricey atm.
Max gear solo cox runs, can scale them up for points.
NIghtmare and nex clips are always fun to watch.
Probably boring, but could try averice green drags multiple accounts, the west ones been very empty lately, because gold farmers moved to revs.
Wildy slayer caves on or off task with averice (not sure if you can kill stuff off task, but if you can, bursting nechreals or abbys with averice sounds interesting)
you could try crafting high volumes of zenyte gems for profit.
cleanest ad transition
math would say keep charging glorys because you're closer to a 2nd one :D
This video just taught me that platinum tokens exist 0_0
I've been playing for 4 years and I had no clue that there were other currency denominations in this game
My man just injected 60k glories into the economy. Absolute chad.
i mean they were already there, he just charged them
While I do find it a bit strange, given reason events. I'm glad things have been cleared up.
though I am amazed nothing has occurred over the GP exchanging hands. I would assumed that's been dealt with in some way or another. Whether good, or bad is up for debate I suppose.
We need more torvesta money making guides!
It blows my mind ppl still play still and spend so much money