QSC K12.2 vs. K12 Speaker Comparison Review & Audio Test (Is it worth the upgrade?)
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- Jeff does a QSC K12.2 vs. K12 speaker review and comparison audio test of the awesome QSC K12.2 speakers!
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In this video Jeff does a QSC K12.2 vs. K12 speaker review and comparison audio test of the awesome QSC K12.2 speakers! He looks at the speaker design, features, and runs through some of the audio presets that you can use if you are a mobile DJ, band, performer or need powered speakers for your performance or venue.
I use 2 original K12 speakers at our home volleyball games. I always use the DEEP setting and man, I love the bass coming out of these woofers while the highs stay perfectly crisp. I don't even need subwoofers to have the amount of bass that I need.
I love the k12 precisely because of the quality bass sound it gives us when the deep mode is activated. I would like to know if there is any preset on the k12.2 that mimics the deep of the k12. I really miss it serious.
@@lacerdapaulomusico Same! The K12.2 are much brighter than the K12. No matter what you do there is considerably less low end. Its has preset EQs that are just kind of trash for bass. However, they are astoundingly loud and clear for like singers and bands. Bummed we cant even opt for the K12s.
I started out DJing with the original K12s and was amazing with the clarity and bass. I quickly updated to the k12.2s last summer. The bass is not there. I've done about 20 gigs with these new k12.2s it's a MUST you bring a subwoofer. The highs and mids are great, but the bass just isn't there. I read QSC EQ'd the bass so it's almost impossible to blow the subwoofer because djs blew a lot of k12 lo-end drivers.
Never the less Great Video
Thanks for watching! I still feel that the K12.2s have great full sound. I also have 2 Ksubs that we bring to most events. If its an event with less than 100 people I think you could get away without using subs and it would sound great.
I don't know about the bass not being there.....i've done small gigs (70) people no sub. Very good so far.
K12s are for acoustic soloists. You want DJ speakers get iQ-15 Turbosound
Eric Ryan Sound ... How do the iq 15’s sound? Ive heard the iq 12’s and maaaan those things get super loud but stay clean & clear the only thing they lack is bass great for mids & highs with a sub ive been thinking about getting some but I haven’t heard them so im undecided i have two QSC Kw152’s for my main tops right now i want some 12’s for bigger venues so i can run two on each side total of 4 good 12’s when i run my 4 powered 18inch subs just dont know wich 4 i want to pick out of QSC, Turbo Sound or the Yamaha DSR 12’s
@@DJHOLLYWOODAMG QSC you will not be disappointed. I have the originals and i will not be getting the 12.2 I am happy with the originals, i love the bass they put out without needing my subs for every gig. I have never raised the volume on mine and never really needed to as 12 o clock is loud enough. I did pick up a pair of the new cp 12 QSC speakers and man they are great too. light weight and plenty of power, the bass is not as good as the original k12 speakers either. But the cp12 are perfect for corporate shows that do not need bass or speaking events and they are so portable yet the great sound and quality that QSC offers.
Thanks for the great review. I'm going to be demoing the K12.2's withing the next couple weeks. It sounds like the K12.2's are suffering in the bass/low end department throughout all the presets. I prefer low end/tight punch for DJing for example wedding receptions. I do realize that listening to these through UA-cam is totally different than hearing them in person. I'm going to be comparing these with the Bose F1 812's........ Thanks again! 😊👍
So how's in comparison with Bose 812 ?
I use both of these speakers I have 4 of the k12.2 and 8 of the k12’s I prefer the k12.2 over the og k12.
I’ve used both without subs and the k12.2 has more push more low end.
Hearing from many users the K12.2 series is having series performance issues with cutting out. Very scary. My original K10’s have been going for over 12 years now.
I saw comments like that in a pro sound group. This is a $1000 speaker! Yikes!
I sing around the social clubs in Yorkshire and i purchased a pair of original K12 when they were first launched. I originally went to purchase a pair of RCF 712 but after the company lent me both pairs there was no comparison. After watching this review i will be sticking with the original pair. I have no desire to cart a bass bin around and the K12s do everything i need. I have recently changed my desk yo a Soundcraft Ui12 and it has taken the quality up another level.
Good review. Is the upgrade worth it? Yes or no? Answer the question.
I would say no. Originals do an awesome job. Plus they have RCA jacks. Very important. Speakers should have all the connections your mixer or controller has.
Everyone keep your K12's unless QSC throws in free bag covers for their newest speakers.
To answer your question it all depends on what you want and your budget. The presets and digital readout on the back are nice, but from a sound quality standpoint it seems to be the same but you don't have the ability to use the presets. I tend to change presets depending on the type of DJ show we are doing, high school, wedding, subs and no subs. Just like all new technology, this is QSC's latest option. Having the RCA jacks was convenient. But honestly doing DJ shows the last several years I haven't missed them. Also I've gone through several QSC speaker bags. I'm not super impressed with the quality of QSC. I've done a speaker bag comparison review video on this channel alongside the Odyssey redline bags
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and they are very comparable if not better. (And slightly cheaper!)
@@TinkerForward your awesome! Thanks.
I love the k12 precisely because of the quality bass sound it gives us when the deep mode is activated. I would like to know if there is any preset on the k12.2 that mimics the deep of the k12. I really miss it serious.
Nice review... but why set the gain to 0?
Like adding a cam to a Harley, you don’t push it, you don’t need it. Pump it up on your next review.
Measure the output.
Thank you! I am getting a set of K.2’s with the subs.
The first k12 say 2000w peak on them also I still have my tags
The originals sound much fuller and balanced. I don’t think I could gig with the new versions and no sub and be happy.
Scott, thanks for your comments and thanks for watching!
Totally disagree.
Better balance between the 12.2' and subs.
I've been debating about getting the 12.2 for one main reason, the ability to use them as studio monitors!
People that complain about the low end probably run home or car EQ all the way up on the base and down on the treble.
Studio setting gives you a crisper sound through the entire spectrum. It's flat, this means there is no gain at any point in the spectrum, the music is in its natural state. Studio techs need that when mixing tracks.
But also having the ability to add a sub, change the eq setting and see what the mix sounds like on the dance floor sounds like fun!
What Sub would you recommend running with the 12.2 ‘a?
Eddie Guerra, I just picked up the 10 inch speakers, and you can go to Sweetwater.com and take a look at the new subs they have. I got the KS112 Subwoofer, and it sounds amazing. It doesn’t sound like the rig I have with two separate 18 inch subs, but for one 12 inch speaker, I’m quite surprised how huge it sounds.
These are not studio monitors!!!
Luc Mermans, no one said that they are studio monitors, but there is a setting where they become flat response speakers, so you can use them for exactly that. I have the 10 inch version, and I’m going to try them in my studio today, as a matter of fact. I already have good powered Yamaha speakers, but I’m going to set up my QSCK 10.2 speakers in the monitor setting to see how they sound. But yes, that feature has been built into the speaker, plus four or five other computer settings, and they work amazingly well.
David Bruce I was just trying to warn people to not use these as studio monitors. Obviously you can do as you wish
Thanks for the review I know it's hard to get an accurate comparison over You Tube with that microphone but the original K12 sound much more full and flat sounding which I prefer, and i do own, but the new K12.2 sound more empty like a dip out of the mid range which is okay for DJs but not for live sound vocals and a band going through and mine are in an install so I see no real reason to upgrade. Thanks again for the detailed review. BTW the new k12.2 sound like the ev zlx which I also own
Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching!
Yes I am not a fan of the LCD screens when you're outside on a bright sunny day very hard to read that stuff and also with my 50 plus year old eyes without glasses all that tiny stuff is hard to see for me anyway haha
The K12.2s are just voiced with more highs. You just add some lower end on your mixer. The difference between the two is that the K12s start breaking up at higher volumes, whereas the K12.2s have more headroom and can be pushed more. Both are great speakers.
Thanks for the detailed review. It is a good side by side comparison.
Front panel looks much better in the new one!
Hi Ryan, thanks for watching!
I personally prefer KW series all the way.
mohau seekoei ... Why The KW12’s?
I don't know what's up with your ears but that K12 legacy sounds better to me. That's K12.2 sounds like the taylor of speakers. I.e. REALLY REALLY BRIGHT! #nobass
My rigs are mostly RCF but I’m absolutely loving the 4 k12’s I lucked up and bought for $800 at a pawn shop. Lots of my other DJs have the k.2’s that have been shutting down and all sorts of mess smh. I’m constantly renting the legacies while folks with k.2’s are out of commission and begging to buy mine but it’s always “Nope!” lol
I cherish my K12s, and just like in the video, my K12s mesh grill is dented, not from abuse; this happens to K12 even with total care; QSC got it right when they introduced the K12.2 with the durable front screen mesh, and that's where it end, The K12s are still my choice in sound quality over the K12.2, most of my DJ friends still prefer their K12s over the K12.2s!
So, OG K12 if you're not using subs, K12.2 if you are? I want to purchase a set of one soon and I will be using Bose Sub 2s.
Looks like the low pass crossover was turned on the k.2. The cut the bass quite a bit in this test. But I still rock my k series.
I agree with previous comment Perhaps the choice of music didn’t suit the higher spec
What about the limiter? I set by speakers to 0db and play through yamaha mixer. The limiter light glows without me pushing the levels. Can you plzz elaborate about the limiter plzz
I have an arranger keyboard often times I will connect to the QSC and jam. Here I use instrument cables connecting directly to the QSC. But sometimes I am hired to play a small event where I use a mixer.
Question - when I use a mixer what cable should I be using from mixer to QSC? (keyboard>mixer>QSC). I was told by someone when always use instrument cables for better sound and no hum/ground noise)...
+RiverRuns NC thanks for watching! As for what cables to use, we typically use XLR cables from our mixer into QSC speakers. We use 1/8 inch Stereo cable outputting from our laptops into red and white RCA cables going into our mixers. Different mixers have different inputs. If you are plugging an instrument directly into a mixer I would recommend using whatever output from your instrument and XLR into your mixer.
What arranger keyboard are you using ?
What is the difference in 1000 watts & 2000 watts difference
I planning to buy for live & karaoke performance
Which model would you prefer
QSC has amazing quality sound. But a power speaker with real bass I recommend Cerwin vega.. along with clear sound QSC has higher vocal range tho
Matthew Valadez wait till you hear the rcf 732a much cleaner & better mid bass, i heard the k12.2 at a wedding wasn’t impressed dsp looks good/look but i had a chance to listen and glad brought the hd32a now totally different in output...was fair and nice to hear both (also i had k12 and bass boost was unreal)
@@MobilediscowirralCoUk I currently have the ELX EV’s. I’ve actually thought about trying LD sound systems
Not An Upgrade...
Couldn't agree more! The K.2 series are very poor indeed
thank you for the review
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
Regardless of brand, a 12 inch woofer will never give you as much bass compared to a 15 inch woofer (unless it's a car sub or in a horn-loaded enclosure). Although 12s and 10s give you wider sound coverage. Basically, if you plan on using subs on most of your gigs, buy some 12s. If not, then go with 15s.
djmanny leon .. ive always wondered why a 10 or 12inch speaker just pushing mids & highs would give a wider coverage pattern then a 15inch Speaker just pushing mids & highs!
@@DJHOLLYWOODAMG wider sound but shorter throw. While 15s are narrower, but you can hear them 6 houses away
djmanny leon .. I Agree I Love 15inch Tops I May Just Stay Buying 15inch Tops!
Your right 15 will give more, but i have never in my over 10 years djn had to use a 15 inch 3 way powered speaker. They are just to big to use as a mobile dj. When i can get the results from 12's and some subs if needed. They are to big to place on a speaker stand. So most people when i see them they are on top of a sub or sitting on a stage. Which places it right in the face of the people close to the dj and then their body's block the sound from reaching the back of the room. So in my opinion 15's are not practical for mobile djn. Just my opinion.
Never use 2-way 15s. If you want 15s always use 3 ways. If they're "too big" figure out how to transport them. 2-way 12s with subs are a fine combo but 3-way 15s with subs are ideal
Hello, thanks for your video, the truth is, I have not compared them yet, but they have told me that the new ones have a point where if you play with them as a dj the sound bends down, you could tell me if that is true since I want to buy more equipment
Qsc k12 is much better sound than 12.2 2000w?
Does anyone how much was the new K12 one? I can't find the price of the brand new K12 since it's not available anymore. Just want to compare with the new K12.2. Thank you!
I would like to know if o could order from Haiti and be delivered down, because this speaker is very appreciated by us
I’m not sure, sites like amazon may deliver there. You would need to check on their website.
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New one seems like a downgrade in every way. Let’s talk about sound: the new unit seems to have less bass. Sure it’s fine and might work better as a stage monitor, but the old ones had some punch with DEEP on. The word is that DJs kept blowing them, so they cut some bass out with the circuitry to try to get people to buy a sub instead. Not sure if I believe this though. Fact is, I also much prefer the design language of the old series (especially the K10 for some reason) with the slightly transparent front grill and more rounded edges. Many people will argue differently, but to my eyes the K10 was the best looking PA speaker of all time! (Followed by the K8, then K12.) To me, nothing screams “powerful speaker” more than having the drivers slightly visible through the grill.
The k12 horn is 8 ohms and the k12.2 is 2 ohms.
Is there a comparison between the K. 2 and the Bose L1 system?
Hey Kevin, I haven't done a comparison between the K.2 and the Bose L1 system. It might be something I'd consider doing in the future. Thanks for watching!
@@TinkerForward I also want to know which one is better for live band
THE NEW K12.2 is not even close to old k12. The old version sounds more fuller richer and lots of beef in it. I don’t understand why new versions are not better than old version
QSC12.2 told 2000watt is lied, not real, cheated , its power watt sounds really like Q12, 1000w.
Nice speakers
Thanks for watching!
Bass sound of Q12 's is better than Q12.2 's , so need not to upgrade if you have already Q12 speakers, same real power Watt. 2000 watt said on Q12.2 's is lied, cheated.
Good Morning!
In the case of Qsc K12.2, does it actually deliver 2000w RMS? OR 2000w peak?
Jhonatan Sacramento .. I heard its the same power for both of them they just tweaked the K.2 to sound better with more DSP!
those 2000w are just peak. The specs of the k12.2 is 1012w continuous. So is the same for both speakers. I like the was the k12 sounds better than the new one.
I actuallly measured the RMS power of K12.2 amp module, I have 750W on the woofer @ 2ohm, but to be honest, the 2 ohm woofer of K12.2 is not great. sensitivity is only 93dB
Thanks. People don't want to plug in a phone or a tablet. They want bluetooth! Amazing omission!
If you're using12" monitors w/ out a subwoofer at dance events, you're cheating yourself and your audience.
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why that annoying background music all the way through so BAD!
Hi. thanks for the test. I would like to know if you could give me your email address so i can send you a mp3 file of some organ music so that I can hear how my music will sound before i buy these K12.2 speakers
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The k12.2 is straight garbage. The qsc company needs to go to jail for lying about the specs