Epson LS500 vs Optoma P2 Ultra Short Throw Projector Shootout

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @zwizzy89
    @zwizzy89 2 роки тому +4

    for those thinking of getting one of these. dont forget you can up the vibrance in settings so that the p2 can do more warmth if thats ya thing

  • @rommelrivera1186
    @rommelrivera1186 2 роки тому +5

    Very informative review with beautiful images that showcased perfectly the differences between the two projectors. The huge bummer is that it compared two projectors with different native resolutions; one is native 4K and the other one is not. Regardless, I arrived independently to what I agree is the better choice: the Optoma P2.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback. These shootouts are to show projector A vs projector B to help people make a better informed decision on which they may want to purchase. Not all units compared will have the same chipset, resolution, contrast, etc.

  • @terjoe6643
    @terjoe6643 3 роки тому +3

    The Epson isn't 4K. That's the reason for the difference in the sharpness. Where the Optoma upscales pixels times 4 shifts, the Epson only times 2 shifts. Epson may call it 4K Pro UHD but it's not a native 4K projector due to the limits of their pixel shifting technology.

    • @bobulatorul
      @bobulatorul 3 роки тому

      Is the Optoma a native 4K projector? Or does it pixel-shift?

  • @Girlwatchingtheworld
    @Girlwatchingtheworld 3 роки тому +1

    We have the P2 - we don't call it a projector...we don't call it a P2, we call it WHAABAM-a-Vision. It's just awesome. We have it paired with Elunevision Aurora 8k screen and a Sony HT-Z9F soundbar. Just a great all around set up. 😜😍😄

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому

      I’m glad you’re enjoying your WHAABAM-a-vision!!

  • @yc4795
    @yc4795 3 роки тому +2

    What are your thoughts on pairing the Optoma p2 with the Epson 120" ALR screen?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +4

      The Epson screen is really good and would pair well with any of the USTs in this shootout series.

  • @adhardino9781
    @adhardino9781 2 роки тому

    Great test, thanks so much. Am considering buying both...

  • @Keichan2501
    @Keichan2501 2 роки тому +2

    You should compare the fan noise. That's a major factor for me.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому +1

      WHAT?!?!? I can't hear you, the fans are too loud....

    •  3 місяці тому

      they all have fan noise. While wathing stuff you don't hear any of them.

  • @georgeshu321
    @georgeshu321 3 роки тому +3

    Been waiting for this!

  • @MrTsec123
    @MrTsec123 3 роки тому +2

    Great Vid! Awesome Brian as Always :)

  • @vt733
    @vt733 3 роки тому +2

    do you prefer better contrast epson or better color accuracy of optoma :)

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +2

      The Epson's colors can be made more accurate via calibration. We were using an uncalibrated unit and not in it's best quality picture mode.

  • @daffyddantes3277
    @daffyddantes3277 2 роки тому +3

    In my opinion the Ls500 gets the edge because of the lower input lag

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому

      That's a big deal for serious gamers and the LS500 currently has the lowest lag of all the USTs.

  • @johnrussell9263
    @johnrussell9263 3 роки тому +2

    If you had a chance to get the ls500 for $2900 vs $3299 for the P2 would you? Here in Korea the ls500 is cheaper than the US, not sure why but if I buy the ls500 with the screen I'm only paying $3800. I just hate that periscope lens

  • @jamesnames2893
    @jamesnames2893 2 роки тому

    *If you live in Europe keep in mind that service here does not work for Optoma. I know because I experienced it and was left without money and the P2. It's an equipment that won't live to the end of warranty.*

  • @charlessailer4580
    @charlessailer4580 3 роки тому +2

    If you get the ls500 out of the bright mode, does the picture sharpness improve?

    • @rogerome01
      @rogerome01 3 роки тому

      I hope. Is it just me or does it seem like the LS500 seemed blurry and almost out of focus?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +3

      The sharpness does not improve, but the colors and contrast do. Bright Cinema mode is great for TV in the daytime, but for movies @ night where the extra brightness may not be needed, there are better default modes (as well as ability to calibrate yourself).

  • @kennethlau9222
    @kennethlau9222 2 роки тому

    P2 is having TI 0.47 in Dlp chips with 1080p native. LS500 is native 1080p. Am think that both are used 4K enhanced technique to play 4K source.
    As far as I know, 4K should go for Sony or JVC in an affordable price.

  • @rogerome01
    @rogerome01 3 роки тому +1

    What is the technical term or feature that gives the Optoma a better detailed view and feel that the Epson LS500 lacks?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      We believe the better sharpness of the image from the P2 was both due to the DLP chip it was using (vs LCD of he Epson) and/or possibly the glass optics of the units.
      The Optoma also has a digital focus wheras the Epson is a manual slide and may be harder to dial in to sharpest focus for some people.

    • @sonobeno
      @sonobeno 3 роки тому

      @@ProjectorScreen did you guys align the LCD panels in the menu? Made a huge difference in sharpness and overall image quality for me.

    • @charlessailer4580
      @charlessailer4580 3 роки тому

      @@sonobeno what setting are you referring to here?

    • @rogerome01
      @rogerome01 3 роки тому

      @@sonobeno would be of huge help if you could show before (out of the box) sharpness vs after what you did (alignment) to see the difference. That blurr view and feel is what has held me back from buying the LS500. Thanks for the tip!

    • @sonobeno
      @sonobeno 3 роки тому

      @@charlessailer4580 it's on page 80 in the manual, I think UA-cam removed my comment because I liked to the manual on Epsons website. Anyways you can find there under calibration. It shows you how to align the panels which helps the overall image quality.

  • @carlstein3753
    @carlstein3753 2 роки тому

    Will the LG work with a 140" screen ? If so, how much quality will I loose and how far back from the wall will the projector have to sit ?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому +1

      You will start to see a softening of the focus on the outside of the screen as you go beyond their stated image size. The larger you go above their specification, the worse the focus becomes.

  • @TylerStout
    @TylerStout 3 роки тому

    Any chance we could get a shootout v7050i and another comparable model like the p2?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      There is a 100% chance that you will see that soon. Make sure to subscribe so you get notified when it goes live.

  • @yoheshwaran.s.r1755
    @yoheshwaran.s.r1755 3 роки тому

    Please tell me what is the best screen colour for absolutely dark rooms with no ambient light????

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому

      Generally speaking a reference white screen is ideal in a dark room with no ambient light. That being said, if you want to use a UST projector in that environment, we would suggest a lower gain surface such as the Stewart Greymatte which is a light grey color.

  • @benjiebarker
    @benjiebarker 2 роки тому

    Do you think the epson’s 4000 lumens is compensating for the throw rate…epson needs to be like a foot or more away from the wall compared to the optoma, right?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому +1

      The Epson LS500 has the longest throw distance of all the USTs but is only several inches further than other units. The extra brightness is not negated at all by the extra throw distance and this projector is still the brightest of any of the home theater/Laser TV USTs out there now.

  • @redmansmagfedgames2607
    @redmansmagfedgames2607 3 роки тому +1

    I think this shoot out should of been compared with movies like avengers or Disney movies because lets face it we are not gonna be watching fruit cups I understand what you were trying to show but for some people like are more interested in Theater like settings I wanna feel like I’m at the movies I wish you would bring this shoot out back but in a movie 🍿 like shoot out instead

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      I can't afford to fight Disney's lawyers for any copyright claim in regards to using their content in our channel :(

  • @arjungopal8497
    @arjungopal8497 3 роки тому

    Hello mate, can you please tell be the Best Short throw projector for gaming on PS5/Xbox thats of 150/max size possible

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому

      The Epson LS500 hands down. It is the brightest of all of the USTs and has by far the lowest lag time of only 16ms.

  • @marierasmussen7799
    @marierasmussen7799 3 роки тому +1

    I would prefer a better head-2-head. Optimize/calibrate both of them to their best instead an out of box comparison.

  • @joelane4670
    @joelane4670 2 роки тому

    What’s the rainbow effect mean?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому +1

      The Rainbow Effect is most visible when the viewer's eye moves quickly across light areas of a projected image, or with video scenes showing rapid movements like in an action movie. Instead of a crisp edge, the viewer sees color fringe that resembles a rainbow.

  • @benjiebarker
    @benjiebarker 2 роки тому

    Do any of you still use your popcorn machine? Mine is decor right now

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому

      Only on special occasions!

    • @benjiebarker
      @benjiebarker 2 роки тому

      My few months were special occasion…now it just sits there…i will have to fire it up again soon

    • @benjiebarker
      @benjiebarker 2 роки тому

      When i get the epson ls500 for sure 😀

  • @Chuniekun
    @Chuniekun 3 роки тому

    Epson ls500 or Vava?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому

      You'll have to wait and see the video when we publish it.... ;)

  • @micaiahjohnson620
    @micaiahjohnson620 3 роки тому

    what about fan noise/ customer service / which one has best maintence

    • @sonobeno
      @sonobeno 3 роки тому +1

      The fan noise on the epson is unfortunately very loud in full brightness. I ended up building a hush box for it and it makes a world of a difference.

  • @Blahmanwhysoserious
    @Blahmanwhysoserious 2 роки тому

    only one is a UST, the other is basically in the middle of the room, lol

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому

      I would refer to it as a "little more than ultra short throw" ;)

  • @laptoprepairs
    @laptoprepairs 3 роки тому

    And when the Epson goes wrong, there’s no company in the uk that can repair it …

  • @ryanhelton1865
    @ryanhelton1865 3 роки тому +2

    What this video fails to mention is that Epson does do the exact same sharpness as the P2 projector however this is something you need to do in the settings menu by using the sharp and putting up to the sharpness of the image you want it to be so do take that into consideration.

  • @laptoprepairs
    @laptoprepairs Рік тому

    Optoma is way better than Epson!!!

  • @5LostExplorers
    @5LostExplorers 3 роки тому

    Cringe

  • @sonobeno
    @sonobeno 3 роки тому +15

    I bought both to test and ended up returning the Optoma p2 as I'm very susceptible to the rainbow effect. For people like me the Epson ls500 the only UST option. But when you couple it with a proper soundbar and tweak the colors its an amazing projector and I love it! Would have been great if you had dived deeper into the menu option of the two. The Optoma definitely has a more sleek menu design, but I found it limited in options. The ls500 gives you complete control to adjust it which is fantastic, but it dosen't look as good straight out of the box as the Optoma.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +2

      Great comments; I agree!
      We have plans to do some more in depth reviews and comparisons on all of these units.
      Subscribe to our channel for notifications of when they get published.

    • @BPrescottX
      @BPrescottX 3 роки тому +3

      I bought the Optima as well and kept the Epson LS500... It was a no contest winner for my requirements and image quality.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +2

      @@BPrescottX They both have their pros and cons; the Epson LS500 is the right choice in many situations. It was hard to pick a winner of this shootout for those reasons. Glad that you are happy with yours!

    • @benjiebarker
      @benjiebarker 2 роки тому

      When you mentioned gaming, now i think i am leaning more toward the epson…my nephews visit on the holidays and they will be wanting to play games on the big screen…would not be great hearing them complain about the lag, but then it will leave the projector open for the adults 😁

    • @petrsmetala
      @petrsmetala 2 роки тому

      What is the distance from the wall for 120" screen? Thanks a lot

  • @laptoprepairs
    @laptoprepairs Рік тому +1

    I've been fixing them for over 10 years and optoma is 10x better !

  • @betitos11
    @betitos11 2 роки тому +1

    I dont know where this guy buys his veggies but @4:16 he's not accurate 😁

  • @jluis333
    @jluis333 2 роки тому +2

    Watched this on my new epson ls500B. Still can't get a perfect fit on my 130 inch screen. Great for 4k. Not so good with lower then 1080p. Being black is a must because a white blob in front of me isn't an option and after splashing 3 grand who doesn't have a killer sound system to match? I have a 7.2.2 atmos 150w klipsch cones and pioneer av. Now netflix and prime 4k are gold.

    • @jluis333
      @jluis333 2 роки тому +2

      Took me 2 weeks to tweek this baby. Got the fitting almost aligned and almost focused on all corners. The manual focus knob is subpar though. Will still be long before I can master all the options for a good non-4k image.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you are able to get it dialed in. I agree completely on the black housing color as well!

  • @DavidLew1
    @DavidLew1 2 роки тому +2

    Huge shout-out for that one-take intro to the projectors!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @jgnmtz
    @jgnmtz 2 роки тому

    Good video, lots of fun . Really enjoyed following along as the description of the differences were explained . This helps so much. Chris Majestic educated me on the Optima P2 operating system .. it’s not Android , it’s glitchy and slow . The LS500 is android if I’m not mistaken ? I’ll watch a few more videos on that one to make sure .

  • @bupbup777
    @bupbup777 2 роки тому

    I own the Epson LS500, I love it! Overall everything, no rainbow, good gaming, movies, TV, slideshow. No regrets!

  • @vadimnesen8060
    @vadimnesen8060 3 роки тому

    3:00 look at the background. Supposed to be white. Its pink on the Epson. Huge fail. Or scam.. not sure yet.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому

      What would make that a scam? Out of the box in bright cinema mode (with no changes to projector image settings) has a red push in the Epson.

  • @Peter_DRIFT_SK
    @Peter_DRIFT_SK 2 роки тому

    what about fan noise?

  • @victorpulos823
    @victorpulos823 3 роки тому +2

    I have epson ls500 n it’s great

    • @micaiahjohnson620
      @micaiahjohnson620 3 роки тому

      what about fan noise i heard its can be to loud?

    • @victorpulos823
      @victorpulos823 3 роки тому

      @@micaiahjohnson620 I have surround sound system so I don’t hear it

    • @micaiahjohnson620
      @micaiahjohnson620 3 роки тому

      Have you ever dealt with Epson customer service isit good or bad

    • @victorpulos823
      @victorpulos823 3 роки тому +1

      @@micaiahjohnson620 I did deal with them in past they are good with me

    • @micaiahjohnson620
      @micaiahjohnson620 3 роки тому

      I mean the repair side of customer service

  • @viperracing2889
    @viperracing2889 3 роки тому

    Is the Grandview 0.4 gain screen a better choice for the LS500, in a bright room, compared to the standard 0.8 gain?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      There is no :"sntadard 0.8" gain when it comes to ALR screens for UST. 0.4-0.6 are the most common and will generally be the best for a UST projector as it will not have any hotspotting like you will likely find with ihgher gain screens.

  • @bobulatorul
    @bobulatorul 3 роки тому

    Is the Optoma a native 4K projector? Or does it pixel-shift?

    • @brownsamurai3070
      @brownsamurai3070 3 роки тому

      Specifications
      Display technology
      DLP™
      Resolution
      UHD (3840x2160)
      Brightness
      3,000 lumens
      Contrast ratio
      2,000,000:1
      Native aspect ratio
      16:9
      Aspect ratio - compatible
      4:3
      Horizontal scan rate
      31 ~ 135Khz
      Vertical scan rate
      24 ~ 120Hz
      Uniformity
      90%
      Screen size
      85" ~ 120" diagonal

  • @kotaperkot1791
    @kotaperkot1791 2 роки тому

    Why there is no in dark room comparison?)

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  2 роки тому +1

      These are intended as "tv replacements" so we are doing our shootout in well-lit, living room type environments. We will be expanding on these videos in the near future to also include darker environments.

  • @Rexprofile
    @Rexprofile 3 роки тому

    Can i use this on the wall ? Without screen ?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому

      UST projectors "can" be used on the wall but we would never suggest that over a proper screen. Your wall will lower the resolution, not provide the same vibrant colors (as the wall is not intended to reflect light) and a UST will accentuate any deviations in flatness on your wall which distorts your image.

  • @chrishawk728
    @chrishawk728 3 роки тому

    Optoma P1 or Epson ls500?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому

      P1 was discontinued a year ago. We don’t have it in our shootout, but when I did do a head to head of P1 vs P2, the P2 was the clear winner due to color wheel.

  • @PAUmerica
    @PAUmerica 3 роки тому

    has anyone tried the Fengmi 100" ALR screen with this and how it might compare with the Grandview or Elite's AEON CLR 3 series? I am thinking with the brightness the Epson offers, the difference would be negligible and you have a great setup for ambit light for a much lower cost given the Epson sale price?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      I have no experience with the Fengmi, but the Dynamique is MUCH better than the CLR 3 in every regard. The screen that comes bundled with the LS500 is optically very similar to the Dynamique as well as Elite's top of the line DarkUST surface.

    • @PAUmerica
      @PAUmerica 3 роки тому

      @@ProjectorScreen AH, thanks for the reply, great Video BTW! Yes, but I am looking for a more budget oriented screen with great results for ambient light. To see which budget screen comes closest. I am hearing great things about the Vava 100" ALR screen also, especially the build quality as it seems to be slightly easier to assemble than others with only two sides that fold out and brackets to hold it together seem better designed also. I liek the brightness of the Epson and its screen, but you scared me away form the Epson in favor of the Optoma P2 because of the focus issue, and being sharper all the way across the screen, and that was a deal breaker for me with the Epson. Maybe even considering the Hisense 100L5F as I am hearing from multiple sources its manually measured brightness is close to 3500 ANSI even though Hisense rates I much lower. I technically the Hisense is available with a screen also, but I am hearing the newer screen for the 100" model is not nearly as good as the one that comes with the 120" model. The 120 though is out of my price range.

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      @@PAUmerica The "new" screen that many resellers will have with the Hisense 100L5F is their rigid, fresnel screen. We are not fans at all. We do have an arrangement with Hisense to still offer their original "soft" lenticular screen (similar to the Dynamique, Epson, etc).
      The Hisense 100L5F can be purchased from select resellers (cough, cough) without a screen in some cases.
      Regarding the Vava screen; we evaluated one and it had not only the lowest build quality but also performed the worst from a sharpness and ALR perspective.
      We have yet to see legit 4k+ ALR for UST that provides as good of a "bang for the buck" as the Grandview Dynamique.

    • @PAUmerica
      @PAUmerica 3 роки тому

      @@ProjectorScreen Thanks for the reply great info. What type of screen does the Hisense 120l5fbld come with? Is it also the rigid screen?

    • @ProjectorScreen
      @ProjectorScreen  3 роки тому +1

      @@PAUmerica The 120l5 comes with the soft, lenticular screen that the 100" used to come with and that we are still able to provide instead of the rigid, fresnel screen.

  • @erzhu419
    @erzhu419 3 роки тому +1

    Thank god. The first projector/UST I choose is the best choice in the expert's opinion.

  • @georgm4
    @georgm4 2 роки тому +1

    What a test? Sorry, this test doesn't show the reality. The brightness for example is very important. The Epson can be used with daylight. You don't need curtains at all. It's a voll replace meant of a TV from this point of view. Sorry this shoots the Optima directly in a class below. And colours: 8 bit 16.77 million, 10 bit 1 billion, which is HDR. The Epson will give you 1.07 billion colours. Full HDR compliant. On the other hand you are counting the Loudspeaker in the same way. The once form the Epson are less good, even if they are better as TV speakers. But watching movies does request a surround system anyway. So in the end of the day, what counts the speaker in the projector ... ? For me, this evaluation does not reflect the main points that are decisive for the purchase. Whether the projector is 5 cm closer to the screen, whether it has speakers that I don't need anyway. Is that the deciding factor? The fact that I can use the projector during the day with the curtains open and it can still reproduce a brilliant and sharp HDR image is the key point that makes it unbeatable in its class.