BMPCC | The Best Low-Budget Production Camera
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Today we take a look at the Original Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera and I explain why I think it is the best camera on the market for the low-budget filmmaker--and how you can make this "ready to use" for under $1000. **MEMORY CARDS IN DESCRIPTION**
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Hi Everyone. I just posted a new video addressing the MEMORY CARD ISSUE: ua-cam.com/video/cdqAU9d5Bd4/v-deo.html
Your words on low light is right on...dark is dark..no need for huge ISO ...you either need a flash light to see in the dark or you fumble in the dark cuz you can't see in real life..you had me at let black be black... following now!
Thanks Rick! I appreciate it :)
But grain
If you're a beginner at the cinematic world then this is for you! Trust me, I have one and I starting to use it more often.
It's a good one :)
As a cinematographer where I work with many different cameras, my own equipment is a blackmagic pocket 4k and the pocket original, and the texture and feel of the original pocket is way more beautiful than the pocket 4k and many others DSLR and semi professional camera. I like it a lot, it's like having a toy in your pocket!
There really is just something special about it :)
@@WillvonTagen Have you guys tried the Canon EOS-M with Magic Lantern? The newest Danne build with 170mbps sd card is AWESOME. 14 bi RAW 5k anamorphic ect.......
@@chrisw5742 Yeah I hope to try it out. I have the BMPCC, but the samples that I've seen from the eos m are great too.
You never forget your first. I still have mine. The image is magical.
Pure Magic ;)
Got mine off eBay for about $500 with a few lenses. Just started filming my first short with it with a couple of friends. Love it so much, thanks for convincing me to go this route!
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy!
I have been working with the BMPCC OG since 2017.
I have been looking for this channel ever since then, and I'm filled with so much gratitude for you making this.
Thanks for watching!
Great opening. "Sell your phone, and buy this."
Nothing wrong with voicing opinions. It makes these 'tubes more interesting.
Hahaha, thanks! :)
That's exactly what I did last year - only with a Fujifilm X-T1. While everyone was upgrading to iPhone 12 I sold my 11 Pro and bought the camera and 35/1.4. Haven't ever gotten such beautiful images before, despite me doing photography part time almost half my life and trying out around 20 different cameras through the years. Now expanding into film as well I'm really looking forward to try Blackmagic sooner or later!
This is the most uplifting video on cinematography and low budget filmmaking I have ever seen. Thank you.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it :)
This camera has made me appreciate what filmmaking is all about. I had stepped up to the 4K - had more to do with control of the camera by the ATEM than image quality. With this camera, you can learn not to chase pixels. You can learn all the basics. The new lenses are really meant for newer and much heavier cameras. I stepped back to the BMPCC and regrouped. I now use manual vintage Angenieux lenses that produce amazing images when paired with the BMPCC. Now collecting dust are newer auto MFT lenses. Now, this camera comes alive in your hands. Shoot RAW into Davinci Resolve Studio 17. Learn to use your filters, Learn all the basics. You now have total control of the content of your videos. The real message is to decide what you want to be the end result of your work. This camera with vintage lenses delivers a look that cannot be duplicated chasing pixels, technology, and spending $$$.
I do not have any aspirations of creating feature films. Yet the results are spell bounding in their quality. HD is more than enough for posting and sharing. Most of the time I have to downsize to 720p to send or upload for friends and family.
Remember, enough is enough, go back to the basics. Vintage lenses complete the bargain when combined with this camera. Both of my BMPCCs cost under $500 - patience and determination is the guideword in pursuing one. I just picked up a mint Angenieux 15-150mm Anamorphic Parfocal Zoom lens in the original box for $305. What will your zoom lens for the 4K/6K will cost you? Enough said.
Also thanks for the info on the SD cards - I use the Kingston 512K in both of my BMPCC shooting raw at 24fps. Another important step is getting a cheap reliable external battery setup. I am using a small rig battery plate with Sony NP-F970 high capacity batteries for external power into the DC in. I never worry about a low battery again. Again, affordable option.
Thanks to Will, for inspiring me to take a step back and just stick with the basics and learn the craft.
Thanks so much for the kind words and detailed comment! I hope others find it useful as well :) Good luck!
I hit the like button one thousand times... I know UA-cam will show only one, but I hit it numerous times anyways... Thank you 😇😇
After your review I bought a bmpcc.
The image quality is great.
Thank you
Super! I'm glad you were able to track one down and are happy with it :)
yup :) Using Super Scale Mode in Davinci solves the 4k problem :)
@C T lol yeah
100% agree with you. The original BMPCC is way more cinematic than latest ones... thanks for the video
It's hard to go wrong with BMD :)
Great video! I had my BMPCC hd from 2014 to 2018 and really enjoyed it. Sold it to get the BMPCC4K in October 2018 and never looked back. BM colour science is the way to go!
YES! I am absolutely in love with BM :)
The colors coming out of this camera are unmatched. Magic.
Should have kept the original
Sometimes the right UA-camr and his right video just find its way to you when you most need it ! Thank you
So glad it was helpful!
I was about to upgrade to the bmpcc4k but Davinci Resolve came out with their smart upscaling feature so sticking with the original. Also the fact that the original bmpcc looks more cinematic!
It's a great camera :) I'm always surprised when ever I fire it up again.
how does this upscaling really work ? what are the downsides in comparison to the p4k camera? thanks for sharing some light at this aspect! :)
Used to own a BMPCC 5 years ago, long gone. Saw your video. Went and bought another one. Just shot some stuff on it. You are awesome!
Hahaha, awesome! Have fun :)
@@WillvonTagen Driving to the shoot now, doing a music video. You're awesome!
Fortunate to own one of these when I found one being sold on social media. The filmic / cinematic look is still awesome to this day.
Hi, I need to say : THANKS for telling a big truth (in my opinion), that dark is dark, night is night, YES it is. People should watch the classics movies. Now my anxiety for iso, exposition, lighting is gone !
Merci dear, and your shots are superbes !
Thank you!
I've been using my BMPCC since it came out. I just bought a second one as a backup.
İs bmmcc same as bmpcc og? Please help me
@@suatsekil The Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera has the same Fairchild sensor, but no screen, different connectors, different form factor and it supports 60p.
@@danielleinad6019 ok so I can buy bmmcc , it has some organic carasteristic, thanks :)
Ah man between you and “Of two lands” I think my personal camera won’t be a photo camera at all. I love the idea of travelling with this BMPCCOG! I can’t get enough of the image.
Haha, thanks man! They're great little cameras :)
Will von Tagen they are indeed. I am waiting for my BMPCC4K to arrive but I’m so keen to save up for a camera that’s just fun for me for personal films etc to keep me excited. I think this little guy is it! Thanks again. Keep sharing on YT
I really liked this video. I think the message is clear: if you want to make movies, this can work. Don't focus on the technology, focus on the craft. Well done. I would recommend this video to my students or anyone that wants to make movies.
Thanks Gerald! :)
You did an awesome job brother. I'm with you. These new age wanna be DPs are too lazy to create. They are caught up on camera manufacturer hype and any large number with a K at the end of it. SMDH...They want to rely on the camera to do everything and they just hit record button. I come from film. Where your camera gives you what you design by the way you light it and create with it. I shot a full feature with the Canon 60D and till today, no one believes I shot that with a 60D...Some said Sony F3, some said Red Scarlet. But I shot it with a 60D. Camera doesn't make a film, is the person behind the camera that creates the image and a camera is just a tool to captures it.
I love love love this camera. First camera I ever bought. Shot my first short film on this. Now I have the new BM 4K/6K and URSA, but I gave this to my little sister and she uses it for alll of her projects. If you’re looking for a cheap camera, this is 100% the way to go! Even considering picking another one of these up for easy gimbal work 🙏🏻
Totally! I also used it frequently before, but sold it a little over a year ago to get the 4K. I did always miss the look and compact nature of the OG, so I recently picked up another one to also have for easier travel and gimbal use (or just more casual projects).
Give me one please, I'm an aspiring screenwriter and director who wants to tell a story through motion pictures, inspired by people like me who also strive for the same interest
@@WillvonTagen does it work well with a gimbal? I'm considering getting a BMPCC for a documentary project that will be mostly shot with a gimbal or a tripod, and a bit worried about the lack of autofocus in an uncontrolled setting. The gimbal would solve the stabilisation issues but wondering if that doesn't make it more difficult to keep the image in focus? Thanks so much in advance if you have a minute to answer!
Got this little guy on pre order release YEARS ago. Changed to a sony a6500 in 2017 and then to a pocket 4K in 2019 :)
I bought one last year, it's now my B Camera, but I shot a boatload of footage on this thing, super versatile camera with great image quality, and you can rig this guy out wonderfully.
That's great! :)
I am rocking my Magic Lantern equipped $100 EOS M which after todays update shoots 2.7K RAW 24p. Even 5K with lower frame rates. APS-C with a $80 speedbooster makes it 1.1x crop - almost FF. I think it’s the better deal for a cheap mirrorless.
Sounds like a great combo!
kingpossie its good to have both I have bmpcc original my favourite but also Eos m which is amazing as well with magic lantern.
By far the best review on this camera. Thanks for not trying to get cute or politically correct or trying to be too smart!
Hahaha, thanks Jeff! I appreciate it :)
In a spin, I'm loving the spin I'm in,
Under that old black magic called love.
Digging the videos. Keep them coming!
Thanks Hermano!
your original videos on this are the reason I bought the camera months ago. Its cool to see you in my recommendeds doing a talking head about it lol
I appreciate it! :)
I’ve had this camera since 2014 and i still love it till this day! Its such a shame Blackmagic got them out of production. I wish they kept making them or atleast update it and keep the same housing. This camera’s a dream!
Agreed! Probably my favorite camera to use.
I agree, as is truly a pocket camera. The 4K is barely pocket size. They should kept the production for this and also kept the 1080p to keep it as a consumer camera.
I own all of the first gen cameras. They're terrific!
Agreed! :)
Most practical video I have seen so far. I am sick and tired of 4K UHD wearing me out! I don't need it, I don't want it! Finally someone who gets it. My most respected UA-camrs have pushed 4K like a narcotic. I have a Sony A7ii that shoots 1080p and that is just fine. Getting a Sony Rx10 used. Guess what? It shoots 1080P also. No 4,6,8,12 K UHD B.S. Most who get into this fall into the trap of listening to the newest greatest must have tech geeks who push 4K. You just don't really need it in most cases. I am rather dubious about this camera, but it does have me curious. I would love to experiment with this. It looks very attractive. Do I want to drop everything else just for this? Hell no! But it is nice to have options, and yeah budget is a huge consideration. I can't buy a Sony a7S iii or the a7IV. Nor do I want too. 10 years from now maybe, but doubt it even then. I like the fact you learn the art with this camera and not the tech. I want to be in this realm. So this video this month tonight is the most relevant video I have seen. Excellent. Just subbed and liked your video. Nicely done!
Thank you! I think it is definitely about choosing the best tool for both yourself and the job :) But for sure, HD will still go a long way!
Love this. I have the 4K and 6K and am thinking about grabbing one for gimbal work myself.
Superb. I shot quite a few scenes with this camera before I had to sell it in 2016. Lately I’ve been looking at the BMC 4K but watching this makes me realise how much I miss it.
The 4K is also an mazing camera. Hard to go wrong with anything from BM :)
@@WillvonTagen- also hard to go wrong with your videos! Without exaggeration or doubt, you are posting the most informative and valuable videos on film production I have ever seen. Of the things you say which i know, you echo my thoughts exactly, and of things you say that I didn't know, you are pulling back the curtain. Thank you, please carry on.
Thank you for this video. I am getting back into videography and your experience really helps.
Glad I could help!
U made me fall in love with my bmpcc again thank you
Of course! Such a great camera :)
I’ve had one of these, a studio camera and a 4K all Blackmagic. Awesome cameras.
Agreed!
Great video Will, as an avid BMPCC fan it's great to see another channel raving about it in a world crammed with spec-chasing.
Thank you! I appreciate the support :) :)
Cannot agree more about specs chasing marketing hype etc.
Great vid! Definitely a BMD fan boy too, but the bmpcc OG is such a a wonderful camera- it’s crossed over into being a classic!
Totally agree!
Cannot think of another camera that would have the same cult status
Your presentation is so well done. I felt like you were talking to me. You left out the cutesy stuff and just explained the merits of this camera in 2020 and how to take advantage of it. Thank you!!!
Thank you so much 🙂
Very inspiring and motivating video for people like me, that are just starting! I would appreciate it so much if you can do more videos about this camera!
There is something about it that made fall in love with it without even owning one!
Thank you !
Thank you! I will try and get some more shot :)
Beautiful shots! I agree I LOVED my OG BMPCC!
Wow, thanks man :)
Thanks for the great video on the original BMPCC. Especially addressing low light with this camera. I’ve recently expanded my creative media agency with services in video and filmmaking. Even within my budget limitations I was able to purchased 4 of the original pocket cameras at a price that I consider to be a steal. I recently started shooting music videos and local TV commercials, as a one-man production, I’ll set up all 4 cameras, one fully rigged camera on a tripod, one camera on a slider, one camera on a gimbal and a fourth camera on a shoulder rig. During a shoot I don’t have the need to strip down a camera from the tripod and re-rig it for the slider or balance it on a gimbal, Using multiple cameras this way, gives me freedom to quickly choose/change angles and shots during production...moving from one camera to another and then back-and-forth.
That's fantastic! Congrats on getting such a great deal!
I just picked one up last week! I'm amazed at how this camera looks. Also with the raw you can switch to the gen 4 color science. It's an absolute steal.
Been loving the videos lately, I'd like to see a video of your practical lighting setups, specifically to use in a a micro budget feature setting. Thanks!
Absolutely! I was just matching the OG to my 4K last week after filming an interview and the gen4 synced it right up! Amazing. Yes, i have had a few requests for lighting videos! I will try and get to one soon :) Thanks for watching!
BMPCC OG It is my most loved equipment.
UA-cam algorithm is being very good lately, glad it showed me your video amidst the R5 A7Siii review craze. Will defo look into BMPCC OG, loved the video, tons of great advise ^^
Thank you!
This is the third time I watch this video
Finally after having bought it myself, with two vintage cine lenses
Looking forward to learning how to use it
Good luck and have fun! :)
@@WillvonTagen thanks, is it just me or is incredibly hard to get a proper focus due to the LCD display?
@@SuperEchinacea Turn on the focus peaking for sure. But also--a little known trick--if you double-click the "ok" button it will punch in on the image for easier focusing ;)
@@WillvonTagen thanks for the tips🙏
Your video definitely made me buy the camera
I literally just ordered one on gear focus because of you. Thanks man.
Great to hear! Hope you enjoy it :)
been looking at going outside my budget for a bmpcc 4k and you're kind of blowing my mind right now.
It's a great little camera for sure!
The Bimp-C OG, lol. I love it.
:)
We got a Arri Alexa a while back, and i love it, but missed my old BMPCC so i just picket one up, i had one back in the day. But its crazy how well it holds up against the Alexa!!
I would love to have an Alexa! But yes, it is a nice little camera :)
@@WillvonTagen The price is going down on the alexa. Trust me i NEVER thought i would own an alexa, but we lucked out. I am so happy with the pocket, we did a coolor match test between the og pocket, the 6k pocket and alexa. It held up like a champ :)
If you buy uses make sure you don't get one of the cameras with white orb or black spot issues. I have two of the BMPCC and love them I also have a Sigma fp (which I think is better than the BMPCC 4k) as I have multiple Sigma lenses and love that. The advantage of BMPCC is OIS lenses, the disadvantages are DOF and not doing 4k. Another disadvantage is that it is virtually impossible to find SD cards that works with it nowadays. So make sure you check that out before buying (unless Sandisk 95Mb/s SD card is included)
Great tips. I am actually shooting a new video today to address the Memory Cards. After a series of tests I found some solutions for everyone.
Thank you thank you. I was lucky enough to be given this camera. Not being a film person I found you video very informative , even if I am not going down your line of work, I will be going down the broadcasting live route... so keep up the great videos, for people like me that just need that little help. Carl
Thanks Carl! I actually got my start in Broadcasting--with almost 4 years with the NBC affiliates in Reno and Boise. Let me know if there are any videos you would like to see addressing topics in that field!
Will von Tagen Thanks Will for the reply. I am currently working for BBC (Wales) but my passion is beach Volleyball and while I am decommissioning the Old BBC broadcasting building I have the opportunity to have a lot of old unneeded equipment and what i am trying to do is setup videoing live streaming of ALL the courts at my new beach volleyball centre...so any advice tutorials always welcome.
The OG blackmagic cameras were a different breed. The original BMCC 2K and BMPCC nothing like these ever again
So good!
I bought one about a year ago. I love it! The picture quality is as good as the 4k and 6k, only with the common (but minor) flaws of 1080p. Then again, who really focuses enough to lose clarity? It works seamlessly with Divinci Resolve too. The only problem I had is that it overheats sometimes. I enjoy it ALMOST as much as my Canon EOS 750D (the GOAT budget camera).
Totally agree, it's a great camera. Thanks for watching!
You prefer the Canon DSLR? Why goat?
@@noodlessoul8356, A Canon EOS 750D, is the best multipurpose camera I've ever seen, even by today's standards. Fact: Canon EOS DSLRs are commonly used to shoot b-roll for Marvel Comics movies. Out of the box, it's great for blogging and films. The video quality is so good that minimal post-production is necessary. Get it and a GOOD lens, and you can shoot anything. Also, it never overheats, the battery life is decent, and it shoots very well in low light. All you need is a few extra batteries, and you're set. You pick up a used body for around $500 and a cheap Canon 50mm lens for about $100.
Just need to find one under $700 right now. I never shoot 4k, so this is very interesting!
You can find them for that price if you are patient :)
i found one for 350$ but i don't know if i should get it or get the 4k
Where are you located? Germany? There are lots of affordable BMPCCs around. I just bought one for 400€ including Zacuto viewfinder, cage, batteries, Lumix 14mm pancake and Olympus 45mm F1.8.
Great video! Glad to see someone NOT bashing the OGBMPCC.
Always! Love that camera :)
I love the way u explain the camera and actually i bought one and you know here in our country only a few knows this camera and i guess i was the only one who had like this camera because of it's power as a cinema camera
The price of these cameras has crept up too much to make it worth while. I agree on most of the things you have said about the camera, except for a few big issues. Fixed Pattern Noise, this camera and all first gen blackmagic cams (except maybe 2.5k) had FPN. Buying a used camera today in 2020, can you really guarantee the cash strapped indie filmmaker that the bmpcc will have no FPN? No you can not.
Secondly; you can not use any cheapo SD card. It is a very specific, much more expensive SDXC card, because if you do not use one of the few that work, it leads to issue number three.
Thirdly and to conclude, the camera's operating system is too unstable and is prone to crashes, some of them out of the blue. While Will's camera may not have any of the issue I brought up, many BMPCC out there do. When they work, they are great, but when they don't, you are SOL. Almost no rental houses carry them, those that do give a warning that it is a niche camera that may let you down when you need it most. Any big pro shoot that uses them, has twenty on hand if one or more break, which they do often.
Have mine for 5 years and never once had a problem. Don’t know what you are on about. Also no FPN except when you push the footage to extremes, but I can promise you every camera has FPN when you push it to extremes.
I got two. Always recording in Raw mostly for recording performance and sometime in very low light. I use the ISO 800 hundred, never more, film preset and it works! Sometime I have to push up the highlight in resolve and if there is some noise, I use the resolve denoiser which is awesome. The only big issue for me is the memory cards and the lack of solid solutions.
So what's your "low budget" camera recommendation then?
liked and subbed. Great vid man, and smooth natural delivery! I got one of these last year on the recommendation of my teacher.
He showed me the link and I was like "Noel, that's 7 years old"
He just looked at me and repeated, "this is the camera you want"
I'm still learning, and like you said, the curve was pretty steep. Just about 25% through a Udemy grading course, and it's really starting to open my eyes to the possibilities.
Best of luck!
Thanks man! Best of luck to you as well!
Fantastic breakdown, Will! Much love and appreciation for you, brother! I'm most definitely picking up one of these little cinematic beasts. Best Wishes
Again, thanks man! And if you get one I hope you enjoy it!
@@WillvonTagen Hi brother, you're very welcome, and thanks! 😃 All the Best
Great video. I considered selling my BMPCC but have kept it to experiment with raw video and DaVinci Resolve. It is a great educational tool in that aspect.
Such a great way to learn :)
I love it it’s insanely lit bro! 🔥❤️👌🏻
Thank you!
yey!! nice review !! i bought this camera for 450$ used and i am enjoying it !!
Thanks man! I appreciate it! Congrats on getting a great deal, I hope you keep having fun with it and creating! (cool channel btw! I had a coin collection when I was younger :) )
@@WillvonTagen wow !! thanks for visiting my channel !! looking forward to watch your work ! happy shooting ! :)
I've been thinking about buying this camera but still haven't. I really love the BMPCC 4k. I think the BMPCC has to be used in the right hands because I've seen some nice footage of it here in YT but I've seen more bad ones. Anyways, good content man. Just subscribed. Plus I appreciate that you actually do films and have them streaming unlike many so called filmmakers who just do a lot of tech talk but never have anything to show. I'll be seeing Heritage soon. Stay safe.
Thanks man, I appreciate that :)
I understand that my situation isn’t comparable to a majority of video shooters but I shoot real estate and architecture that’s usually too fast to setup lighting so low light performance is a big deal. Too bad because I love the look of the footage.
I can understand. Maybe give the 4K version a look. There are some great MFT lens from Laowa (7.5mm t/2.1 and 9mm f/2.8) that on the 4K would give you a very wide field of view for real estate without distortion. That might be a killer combo for you.
@@WillvonTagen Thinking about that or the 6k, you mentioned that you thought the 6k was overrated?
@@RewDowns Don't get me wrong. the 6K is an absolutely amazing camera, and an outstanding deal for what it is--but I think what you "give up" to achieve the extra 2K isn't worth it for most users in my opinion.
For instance, you can only shoot BRAW in 6K (4K is limited to ProRes only--and I personally only shoot RAW (even on my vlogs)) But while I ALWAYS want RAW... I know I would not always want 6K--and that could be an issue for many.
Also, it is EF mount only, so I think you lose a lot of options when it comes to lenses--especially if you are already coming from an MFT system or use Vintage glass that has not been converted (quality EF glass is a lot more expensive generally). Also--although both need battery solutions--the 6K still draws a lot more than the 4k, so you will need to pack extra battery bricks.
And finally, the crop factor is not much less between the two (1.9x vs 1.6x). If you use a speedbooster on the 4K, you can actually get a 1.35x or 1.2x equivalent, meaning a bit more range if you are not using native MFT glass).
Now, for a big production, the 6K may be very much worth it--especially if you have access to amazing EF Cine Glass. But I think being limited to RAW at 6K can be a big issue when it comes to daily use.
In all, it is a very fine camera, but I see it as a bit more of a specific tool where the 4K is good for just about any job.
@@WillvonTagen That's very helpful thanks, I see what you mean about adding a battery and cage, I want to try to keep the BMPCC as pocketable as possible ;)
The only thing making my decision even tougher is that all of my lenses are already EF so when you buy the speedbooster for the 4k its essentially the same price.
And 6k is not ideal for file size but you can downsample right?
@@RewDowns I suppose if you already have a lot of quality EF glass then that does change things a bit. What is your widest lens? (because again the crop on the 6K isn't all that great).
A company called Viltrox also has a speedbooster that is much more affordable. Here it is on Amazon: amzn.to/341Ejs9
I have not tested it, but I know a LOT of other camera influencers who use it over the Metabones--so I assume it is much better than most non-matabones speedboosters on the market.
I don't want to sway your decision. I want you to get the best camera for the job--for sure. I would say look at a few other 6K vs 4K videos on youtube and decide what you think is best :)
You made so many good points here, and just about this gorgeous camera. Solid advice.
Thanks for watching :)
I treasure my Original Pocket Cam + cheap ebay power pack, F2.8 12-35mm Lumix glass + length of 1 x 1/4in alloy bar mount capped with Ninja V.!! A HD1080 power hause. 🎥 ❤️
Sounds like a fierce machine! :)
I love this camera. I got two. Then the 4k and then a URSA 4.6 k g2. So you can say I'am a fan of blackmagic camera. Anyway I continue to use the BMPCC especially during my trip. But I have to say that I would not recommend to buy it today because of the memory card. It is quite impossible to found today. The actual generation of SD card is no longer compatible. See blackmagic forum about this issue. If you are lucky you may found an old generation but it is not for sure. It's s a shame. Blackmagic doesn't really care and memory manufacturer says Blackmagic has to update his driver. So, do not buy it if there is no tested memory card available....
I have good news for you! Tomorrow I am releasing a video thats covers EXACTLY this issue and I have 3 cards to recommend that can be purchased new! (and 2 that are still well within the low-budget realm) :)
And yes! I love BM all around! Just got back from a shoot today with the 4K using old FD Primes. A beautiful combination!
I’m looking to buy this original camera since I’ve been wanting to make a film. It’ll be my first.
Awesome! Good luck :)
@@WillvonTagen thank you!
Once again, great video. Your presentation is concise, informative and it is easy to see your passion for the craft of filmmaking. The color science of this reviewed camera, coupled with the internal Raw capabilities, and the price point, make it a great option for many indie filmmakers. My mind set has always been "It's not the camera, it's the shooter"; a "Master of Light" can make something cinematic with any camera. That said, if someone doesn't already have a high quality camera, then this is a great option, albeit, as you stipulated, a little longer learning curve than some other options, meaning DSLR's. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. You never fail to hold my interest from beginning to end.
Wow, thank you very much for the kind words. I am glad you find them useful :)
Awesome video just found your channel. I was looking on ebay here in the states I did not see anything close to your price point but maybe in the future ill get lucky!
With a bit of patience (and keeping you search setting to "new listed" and "buy now" you can still find goos deals. I saw one go for 400- last week.
FANTASTIC CONTENT! I watched the whole video. Can't wait for your future videos!
Hey Pei! Thanks so much! :)
@@WillvonTagen Honestly love your work man! and you've convinced me to spend more money haha
worth watching video Black Magic fan
This sir is some quality content. instant sub'd
Wow, thank you so much :)
If only it had 1080p 60fps it would be perfect for me... i really like 60p for some cinematic slo mo
True... But is Slo Mo cinematic tho? How often do you see this actually used in the average film/series?
@@WillvonTagen uhh literally all the time... is that a serious question?
Basically all action movies use slo mo at some point, dramas or romance films use it on close ups when people are falling in love, literally any documentary uses tons of slo mo in all of the b roll, comedies use slo mo for dramatic effect like when some one slips and drops a plate and we see it fly into the air in slow mo before crashing down comedically, or sports movies literally any time someone catches the ball or dives for the end zone....... the examples are nearly endless
What kind of boring movies are you watching that you’ve never seen slo mo used?????
@@baqcasanke There's no slow motion in Indiana Jones, or Star Wars, or Back to the Future, or Jaws, or Manhattan. I can think of hundreds of some of the best films made that don't use it.
Agreed--in some bigger action films and sport films they will make use of overcranking--but in the average film it is pretty rare, and therefore a camera's ability to overcrank is very low on my list of needs from a narrative cinema camera. (If you need it for 1 or 2 scenes you could rent a camera with the ability).
Now: to eat my own words a little, in the case of building VFX shots (even in the original Star Wars), overcranking is used to give scale to miniatures in motion--or even in explosions because the fire is actually miniature. But the footage is then placed into a scene that plays back in realtime (not slow motion). It is a tool used as part of elemental scene building--but the cameras used for those VFX shots are very different from the camera used for the rest of the narrative.
For nature documentaries, wedding and corporate videos etc.--sure, I agree slo-mo is a needed tool. But I do stand by what I said, that Slo-Mo doesn't automatically make an image cinematic--just like shallow depth of field doesn't. I have a video on my channel about that :)
Thanks for watching man :)
Correction: RED promised 3k for 3k (original scarlet) and yes, never delivered on that. They then figured out who their market was and stuck to that.
Oh crazy, I had always heard 4k. Thanks for the info!
Fantastic video, very fair, comprehensive and well explained
Thank you! :)
Love it! We still love our Pocket HD!
So good! :)
Love this. Liked and subscribed!
Thank you!
@@WillvonTagen I've now just bought this camera for the first time after buying the 6k Pro recently too. I've posted a couple of videos about the BMPCC original (OG) on my channel. Love it! That Fairchild super 16 sensor is amazing. So filmic! I got a very strange but beautiful circular flare about 5 mins and 50 seconds into my 'Blackmagic BMPCC Original LEICA ELMARIT-R 28mm f2.8 Peter McKinnon 2 Variable ND Filter 2-5 Mist' video I just posted - if you have time to check it out, can you give me my opinion on it? Not sure if it was the VND I was using! Either way, I love the Sun bursts and lens flares I'm getting from this camera!
Good video. Good insights. Just subscribed.
Thanks!
They need to relaunch this camera
Agreed
Dude... I watched this entire video thinking you had a million subscribers or something. Blown away by your candidness and insight. Definitely subscribing. I'm really interested in learning cinematography at a deeper level. I currently own a Sony A7iii but I was looking for a cheap cine set up. Would you still recommend this for me? Thank you again!
Wow, thank you! Yes, the channel is pretty new and I am only doing it in my spare time right now. Thanks for the support! The a7iii is a great camera, but I have never been a fan of Sony's color science--especially that you have to shoot in such a high ISO to get the most from Log. I think it depends on what your Cine needs will be. This is definitely an outstanding option and gives some of the best images possible, but as I say--it can be a bit tricky when first starting off. If you have patience and can add some of the supplementary peripherals I mentioned I think it could definitely be a game changer for your output--and a nice variation from your Sony. Stay tuned, in a couple of days I am releasing a new video discussing the memory cards for this camera. Thanks again!
damn needed that video like 6months ago... i bought the bmpcc4k. like yes its great, butnto great for me, file sizes and the camera itself. i love to film trips with friends and damn this little thing would be perect for that
Such a wonderful camera! Thanks for watching :)
Cheers! I learnt so much. I'm new to all this photography and video stuff; covid19 has thrust me into it, and I really appreciate your time. You've inspired me to get something and to shoot in manual
Fantastic! So glad you found it useful :) Have fun!
Can you give us your insights or tips on judging exposures on BMPCC? I realise it's a complex thing, and you probably by now just judge it based on experience... I read some advice on the Personal-View forum, in a thread entitled "2k Blackmaging Pocket Cinema, active m43, $995" from user Kohli, and wondered if this chimes with you.
He suggests using waveform on a monitor (he wrote this in 2013, so perhaps today he'd be using false colour on the Ninja V to judge what you see vs IRE ranges for the look you want in a shot) combined with zebras at 75%. His logic is that 100% zebras does not mean individual RGB channels are not clipping at the sensor, only that all channels are not clipping. So even at 90% zebras, individual channels can clip - eg green channel on highlights on skin, eg if using UVIR cut filter outdoors.
He suggests aiming to get exposure in the -1 to +1 range, for the best balance between noise in shadows versus clipping in highlights. So by using 75% zebras, he's looking on the monitor for skin or other objects in the shot with highlights you want to keep, and adjusting exposure to remove zebras so that no single RGB channel is clipping. He also advises setting BMPCC to Film mode for recording, and View mode for the screen - the LUT the camera uses apparently gives the best zebras and image to judge exposure.
Does this chime with your experience? Any other watchouts or ideas for judging exposure on the BMPCC, or using tools on external monitors?
To be honest, when I shot my feature with the camera I relied totally on Zebra set to 100%. I think this is good for many settings, especially if you are moving quick. 95% is also a good place to be.
This is real world experience--but there are definitely much better ways to go and DPs I have worked with take advantage of better monitors to read wave form etc and they get great results with the BMPCC. If you can, I do think using False Color is very smart for getting skin tones right and also making sure there are no strange flickers or strobing in the frame. I didn't understand False Color 5 years ago when I was working on the film, but I definitely use it when ever available now. False color + Zebra at 100-90% should get you great results and still allow you to move at a desire-able pace.
@@WillvonTagen OK cool, I will try both approaches over time and see. I fully take your point about moving at speed: I hadn't thought of that simple, practical need!! I should get my BMPCC soon, so will start experimenting. Thanks for sharing your experience, it all helps me get off to a better start.
@@WillvonTagen Just in case others reading these comments are interested, I came across a thread on the Blackmagic Users Forum. The thread is entitled "ETTR and middle grey" if anyone wants to Google it - the thread is 10 pages, the meat of the conclusions are on pgs 8-10. As many here will know, DP John Brawley does a lot of development testing for BM cameras to the present day. He and other forum users share conclusions from testing and experience of this camera, discussing exposure management. It confirms that 100% or 95% zebras would work for this camera, as long as middle greys/skin tones are no more than -2/+3 stops under-/over-exposed: colour detail when grading in post is not lost within this range.
As you point out, for speed this means practically that you decide an exposure setting for the scenes you're shooting, and then stick to it from shot to shot as much as possible if you want consistent colour when it comes to grading. If you ETTR every shot, you'll have more work to do in post in order to make each shot match.
For the technically minded, Brawley explains the reason: the data coming off the BMPCC sensor has a 22 bit colour depth which for Raw recording in Film mode, is compressed to 16 bit linear for encoding. The camera ISO setting selects a log curve for encoding that signal to a colour depth of 12 bits, and in Davinci Resolve that 12 bit file is unpacked to 16 bit linear 'under the hood'. So effectively these files allow us to work with 16 bits of linear colour information. Amazing.
Something else Brawley says: grey cards can be 'out' by 1-3 stops, just based on the light source and the angle the card is held at! Which adds a whole new complication... hence experience and just experimenting is the only way to get a 'feel' for it I think LOL!
Thanks for this good video! It's been a while that I want to get my hands on it. But they are becoming expensive.
It will be an amazing upgrade from my G7. These blackmagic colors are sooo good.
Did you use it to film 'Almosting It' ? It looks amazing. It was a pleasure to come across your video !
They are great cameras and I think you will enjoy it after the G7 :) I used to pocket for "Heritage" (my second film). Almosting It was actually shot on a RED Epic-MX. In a lot of ways I did prefer the BMPCC over the RED, but the RED is certainly an amazing tool as well :)
@@WillvonTagen Oh thanks for the answer, the RED Epic-MX is definitly an amazing camera as well. Heritage's footage is really good, the BMPCC is fantastic. Greetings from France :)
I had never thought much about this camera i may have to find one i can borrow and try out for a C camera. I shoot bands so low light is important and often i have no control there, but this may still be ok. Worth a shot anyway.
Sure! Try it out. If this is the stage camera where you have a lot of lights it shouldn't be a problem. Could also be easy to hide on stage for a live performance.
I sold mine a month or two ago. It was painful. Loved that camera.
Oh no! Did you replace it with anything?
Will von Tagen yes 2 BMPCC4Ks
@@davetinoco Awesome!
Thank you for this video. I'm really looking forward to using this camera and while I've been waiting Ive been using Davinci and finding bmpcc footage to correct and grade and I'm loving the process and the freedom that comes with LOG footage. And its super filmic.
I have a family of vintage lenses for this. My budget didnt allow for this Panasonic Lens... yet. But soon
GREAT VIDEO
Awesome! Vintage glass is gorgeous. Good luck! :)
@@WillvonTagen it finally arrived and I'm loving it. Sorting out the battery issue but I've been testing it out.
Great review thanks.👍
Thank you!
I have just won one on ebay and I can’t wait. Thanks for the films your films look great. 👍
I own and use a BMPCC OG. For your feature films, what audio equipment do you use? I’m in the process of making a feature on a budget and I don’t know what boom mic to get. I already have an H4N Zoom recorder.
For the first round of principle photography we had a pretty pro kit--but I am not sure what all was included. However, for a number of reshoots (60% of the final film) we did use a stripped down budget kit. I would recommend the H6N over the H4N, as having the ability to dial the input levels of each track while filming is crucial. Beyond that we had 2x Sennheiser ew 100 Wireless Lav microphones as well as a mix of Rode NTG3 and Sennheiser MKE 600 shotgun mics (depending on when the filming was occurring). All actors had a wireless on as backup with the boom serving as the main source. The boom was just a cheap, carbon fiber pole off of Amazon--I don't recall the brand at the moment.
Remember--you can always sell your gear after the shoot. And if you purchase used--often you can resell it for exactly what you paid. So stretch that dollar as far as you can, and even if you don't think you can afford something, remember: you can look at it as more of a "free rental" after resale and only get gear on project-to-project basis.
Sound is very important--so definitely try your best to get "good enough" gear and ideally someone who has experience field recording. Get the shotgun as close as possible to your actors.
Fo. Sho. Still use my original 2.5K. Such an amazing camera.
Great line of cameras :)
Great review, great camera. I prefer to use BMPCC with Zeiss manual fast lenses (Biotar and Tevidon). It's amazing to see a 30-60 year old lens in action with this camera. The results are very interesting.
I just put together a set of canon FD Primes for my other BM. I will be curious to try them on the original pocket as well! Vintage glass is always a special way to go :)
@@WillvonTagen Very interesting, can you specify these lenses in more detail? Aperture, focus?
I want to test these lenses as well.
I'm currently modifying cheap Yashica glasses for the BMPCC, I'm looking forward to the first shots.
Really enjoyed the video. I've had my bmpcc since 2013 and the one issue I've yet to resolve is battery life. I haven't seen many people exploring the Juicebox Magic Power 2.0 and I'm curious if that's because there is something less than ideal about it or if it isn't well known. The price is comparable to the solution you've put in this video and it seems to be more of an all-in-one solution, which I think would be easier for mounting.
Nice changing the title to make this relevant again. I definitely clicked this video first because it said 2022 lol
Hahaha, yeah… I get called out a lot for that. TBH the info doesn’t change just because the year does-it’s all still relevant, but I should probably shoot a fresh one for 2023..
@@WillvonTagen it’s an eco-friendly repurposed for the same purpose video.
@@WillvonTagen And it's 2023 and you changed the title... shoot something new please!
@@A388Flyer Hahaha, did you come back just to check on me? ;) Honestly the info has not changed and I do have a recent video about using the OG for filming a feature, but you are correct... I am now working on a "Blackmagic Roundup" comparing the OG/2.5/Micro/BMPC4k/Pocket4k that should get pretty in depth--but is there any new info about the OG you are needing in 2023 that wasn't;t true in the 2020 video?
@@WillvonTagen No, it popped up in my search with some familiarity... so thought to see if anybody noted the date change. The comparison video sounds good and much needed... too many BMD Cam A vs BMD Cam B, not much of an overview of the whole BMD familia. As for the OG specific content, I would suggest you cover the memory card issue (people who don't do their research think it is tough to find cards) and perhaps talk about considerations if people take to the BMD ecology through the OG and want to move onto newer BMD cameras... ie. economics of having an MFT lens collection that are not served well by the newer EF mount cameras.
BMMCC ist eigentlich meine Lieblingskamera wegen max 60 FPS Slomo. Hat aber keinen eingebauten Bildschirm. Zu Low Light muss ich aber sagen, dass auch wenn man in Postproduction bei RAW einiges boosten kann, man schnellere Linsen nehmen sollte. Eine Vintage Minolta MD 50mm F1.4 wird mit Speedbooster zu 35mm F1.0 um nicht mal 150 Euro (Low Budget). Ich habe die Panasonic 12-35 F2.8 aber manchmal ist mir 2.8 doch zu langsam. Außerdem wegen des S16 Sensors ist die ideale Weitwinkellinse die Laowa 7.5 F2.0 Zero-D, aber da bewegen wir uns schon außerhalb von Low-Budget.
Ein externes Mikrofon braucht man auch noch. Die Kamera hat 48 KHz 24 Bit aufnahme, aber der eingebaute Mikrofon ist suboptimal
Ich habe eigentlich gerade einen BMMCC gekauft und habe vor auch ein review davon zu machen. Die hatte ich auch in 2016 gehabt, aber nur fuer kurzer Zeit--ich wahr nicht super begeistert davon--die ganze Kabel kram war mir wirklich nervig. Die 60p war cool aber die Framerate nutze ich sowieso seltsam. Aber ja, BMMCC ist doch ein guten aber nicht mein Lieblings--deswegen wieder verkauft (und nun wieder gekauft, lol). Ich versuche der Review bald zu schaffen! PS - Die weitwinkel von Laowa sind SUPER. 👍
@@WillvonTagen Ja gut die Kabel sind Nervig, ebenso die Steuerung (da entwickelte ich aber einen eigenen controller namens Inquisition, das noch miniaturisiert werden muss), aber für die Bildqualität nimmt man das in kauf. Es ist ein Dual Gain Sensor, wie in Arri Alexa, daher kommt so schnell nichts in der Preisklasse an BMMCC ran. Bin auf dein Review gespannt. Aboniere dich
Red didn’t promise 4K for $4k when they started. They promised it when they put the Red One body on sale when the Epic came out. It’s misleading to say that they didn’t, because they actually did. The scam was that you still had to pay full price for their accessories.
Good to know, thanks for the info :)
@@WillvonTagen no worries. Didn’t mean for that to sound so stand offish haha. Loving your vids, keep em coming.
Massive price spike on these now, no way you can get a good one for under $5/600 USD. Its the best ever camera of this type, there is no way they will replicate it at the original cost ever again.
Yeah, they have definitely gone up. But sometimes if you factor in the extras on some of them (cage, cards etc) they still level out a bit. And either way 5/600 is still a steal for such a powerful camera. Good luck!
Guess I am lucky to have a bought one for 450 last year right before the pandemic, it even came with the original box.