What is The Pale Man?
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He's been waiting... and he's hungry. What lies beneath the clammy, blood-tinged exterior of the Pale Man?
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You will give a single character a side quest in your world so we can taste it ! now go !
This is tempting but I fit into all the categories they list. I live in all worlds except the real one.
Talebot, trying to be freaky: It's not... really...
Me: A monster? Yeah go figure. Nothing ever is with you, is it?
If The Pale Man is a symbol for Evil and the consequences of partaking in it then the table of food itself is also symbolic. The ultimate trap of being able to just reach out and take whatever you want and as much of it as you want is synonymous with the alure and corruption of power. And, like with The Pale Man, you often don't know how much danger you're in until you've already taken the first bite of temptation.
Well put 👏
The deadly sin of lust that lures you into the fantasy that you can reach anything by crossing the line, and the deadly sin of gluttony that disables you from stopping through an insatiable hunger for more.
ITS mostly about systhemic abuse of Kids, where every offer and what should BE safe and obvious to BE Provider Turns into a Trap, the Foster sythem where many Take in Kids for the funds and abuser them, orphanages, abusive teachers . . . .she also did Not Take Something of the table our of greed, ITs Not gold or jewlery, she Takes Something Out of pure Hunger. She also does Not gorge herself which would BE glutony, she tries to Take what she needs and what should BE for free thats what makes IT so much scaryer. She did Not get punished for a sin, but for a Basic need. ITS Not Just offers that Look to good in generell, ITS offers to those WHO need them the Most, of how asking for Help and trying to Accept IT can terribly Hurt you. Thats what makes the Pale man so much worse then the usual Deal with the devil figure
You could also look at it like this:
The table is the allure that leads you to it, shows you what it offers, but consumes you if you partake.
The trope of consequences after eating the food of the Other world is an ancient one: think Persephone eating the pomegranates of the underworld, or various fairytales warning of the dangers of eating faerie food.
The rule: You may eat nothing of the feast!
Me: Eats the eyes
The Pale man: "What!?"
Me: "What?"
Alternately, the Pale Man laughs and congratulates you on passing the test.
What if that's how you turn into the pale man and kill the previous one?
@@HyperdiskWhat if a cannibal child goes to the Pale Man? What would he do when the child began to eat him? 🤔
@@StoryLover-7 He eats the child
@@vladyvhv9579Tbh, I'd rather have that thing chase me than imagening it laughing
The Pale Man's eyes being not on his face, but on his hands, to me, appears as if he can only see as far as he can reach. Greed and lust and an endless hunger for power is blinding, as you are unable to see outside of your ambition.
Beautifully said
Ever heard of that Japanese urban legend I think the pale Man is based on that legend
So what if i just eat his eyes what then?
According to Cornelia Funke's novelisation, the Pale Man used to be a human who started by killing small animals as a child and later worked for the Spanish inquisition, slaughtering countless people and enjoying it immensely. He became an actual monster after he stabbed his superior to the back and ate his heart. I think it was then his eyes got enough of looking at all the horrors and just....popped out. He couldn't put them back into his head so he made the slits on his palms and slipped them there.
Interesting! It's a very different interpretation from Del Toro's. I'm not as concerned with canonicity as I am with symbolism, but this is cool! I didn't know this book was a thing
-Benji, showrunner
@@TheTaleFoundry I've read the book and it is really good. I highly recommend you read it on a rainy day.
@@TheTaleFoundry Del Toro actually co-wrote it. I quite like the fact that the man went from literal institutional evil to symbol of said evil, aka, he was so evil that he turned into a fairytale monster. I don't think the Faun created the Pale Man, but simply used him as a part of the test. This creature is far too messed up to be simply a disguise or fabrication. 😅😱
@@TheTaleFoundrywhat was His Interpretation of the origin Story? Cause I See No difference or contradiction of IT to what IS in the movie
@@arianewinter4266well for starters, the faun literally describes the pale man as “what lies there isn’t human” so it couldn’t have been an inquisitor turned into a monstrous cannibal, but rather another faerie.
I like the implication of Ophelia being the true princess due to her disobedience, as the princess' defiant nature was what led her away from her kingdom.
Yeah disobeying was also what got her the dagger in that scene too, since fairies were pointing to the middle door but she then shook her head, instead using the key on the door on the left
The pale man was also inspired by Japanese folklore. A blind man was robbed and murdered. The last thing he said was “ if only I could see!! Even if my eyes were in the palm of my hands!!” To this he is considered one of the most dangerous yokai in Japan. Mainly because he eats your bones.
but what did other people do
Personally I fine his shape human more so than others
It’s called a tenemo it’s more dangerous as its sense it has great senses.
@@BugermanchiIts name is "Te-no-me (手の目)" or "Tenome‐bozu (手の目坊主)."
Yeeees now somebody is on my line these people don't know he's based off a Japanese urban legend 😊
I think it’s true, also when you say you believe Pan/Faun was there to trick her into succeeding in her own way. He sent Ophelia to the Pale Man’s feast knowing she was punished with nothing to eat earlier by her mother when she muddied her dress. I used to be so mad at Ophelia for breaking the “rules” when I watched the movie, but my last viewing, I caught that detail that she must have been starving and it was because of the last quest Pan sent her on to get rid of that frog. Now, when I watch the movie, I observe how tough he really is on Ophelia.
She still risked her life over something dumb. I had times where I haven't eaten in over 20 hours and still wouldn't be dumb enough to do the "DONT DO THAT" thing in the room with the big scary monster. I understand movies do this stuff but I always hoped she would die there even when I watched the movie as a kid.
@@KuroiShiAnimu You have to remember that she has lived in the wartime Spain. She is probably severly malnourished beyond the punishment. Also I bet that there was some kind of magic involved.
well she isnt you and you arent goin gon in fatastical trails are you?@@KuroiShiAnimu
@@taiganb3463who knows maybe they are
The pale man used so scare the shit out of me when I watched this movie as a kid
I watched this movie with my younger sister when we both were little, she had nightmares about the pale man for years and we never rewatched the movie
After watching this movie with my family, they started watching movies before family movie night to avoid seeing such scary monsters accidentally. And yet, I enjoyed it so much.
ITS one of very few truely unsettling Horror creatures cause IT IS so unsettling human in a wax
I remember seeing the pale man in promotional material/posters for the movie as a kid and being already scared by that, it certainly prevented me from watching it as a kid. Interesting to hear more about what this movie and the pale man are actually about after so many years, since that picture of the pale man with his eyes in his hands was the only thing I saw about this movie before.
Holy shit yeah that scared me for months.
I imagined him watching me from the shadows
Also the fairy’s not being able to talk in that situation (and later being eaten) can also be a symbol for parental figures. You can see them trying to warn her about eating the food, but with then not knowing how to effectively communicate with each other she doesn’t understand the warning and eats. Then when the fairies try to protect her from the danger, they suffer the consequences instead of her.
I think there's something to the 'fascism is never as dead as you think it is' just give in to one little fascistic tendency and you are in danger of being consumed by it, but she also escapes, so one slip up doesn't have to be the end.
That is only true if one has bought into Enlightenment ideologies, whether it be liberalism, communism or any other ideologies that stem from the Enlightenment, which includes fascism. All Enlightenment ideologies have some from or element of revolutionary politics, the wanting for a dramatic change in a society, and as its easy to get 'carried away' as it were, the end result of Enlightenment ideologies is something like fascism, and I don't mean Umberto Eco Ur-fascism, which is about as accurate as a blind darts player, no, if you want to know what fascism is, then read Giovanni Gentile's 'The Doctrine of Fascism' and the 'Manifesto of Fascist Intellectuals' to get a proper understanding, just as you would need to read Marx and Engels communist manifesto to get a a proper understanding of communism or Hobbes, Locke, & Rousseau with liberalism or Adam smith and David Ricardo with Free Trade. If you do not subscribe to Enlightenment ideologies you have little danger of being consumed by any of them, including fascism.
Also, Franco was not a fascist, he was not a revolutionary, his intention was not to seek a dramatic change in Spanish society, contrary to popular belief, he wanted to preserve and protect his nation from revolutionary and destructive change, (which he mostly succeeded). if Franco was anything, he was a something like a pragmatic reactionary, he was not that far off a sort of 'Spanish Cromwell', but less successful at making Spain a wealthy and powerful nation which Cromwell had done for England. Also like Cromwell, there is a Monarchist or at least monarchical sway to Franco, if nothing else, but despite Franco's base including but not limited to fascists, Franco him self was not a fascist nor was Spain fascist, more like, reactionary Catholic Spanish conservatism... not Fascism.
Also, I can not stress this enough, I am not a Francoist, I'm an Englishman, not even a Catholic, so Franco is of zero relevance to me and England, thought I am an English reactionary, but that is of zero relevance. I thought I'd get that out there before people jump down my throat accusing me of believing things I do not subscribe to, or worse.
The Pale Man is one of my favorite monsters of the cinema, but in my opinion he is a reflection of the life in the movie
thats an interpretation not an opinion.
I always thought having the Pale Man’s eyes be in his hands was because he saw what he wanted. What do you do when you want something? You reach out and grab it. He’s always seeing what’s within reach. But that’s my interpretation.
I think I could take the Pale Man. First of all, hide his eyes from him before eating from the table.
What if we destroy them?
Yeah the second my family and I saw the eyes and the monster, we immediately guessed those were HIS eyes or his dinner. He was a monsters based on the blood on his hands and we immediately said "there's a fire right behind you. Throw those things in there and gorge."
In metaphorical terms. When partaking in evil, make sure the eyes of punishment are looking away.
The vulnerability adds to the scariness of the monster.
I would first get the shears from the middle door and just kill the Pale Man with them before going to town on that buffet.
This was probably the most interesting interpretation of The Pale Man I've ever seen. I love how you don't get hung up on the gendered nature of the movie and you talk about the themes in a broader sense. If you wanted to make this a recurring thing, deep diving into the movie and its world building, I'd definitely be on board.
Shout out to Doug Jones and his AMAZING portrayal of Pale Man *and* Fauno.
Absolutely! The man is a legend
...Almost *2* decades ago.
I'm old. AND: I'm still here!
I was about to point this out too. Like, sure, 18 years is close to a decade if you back up real far from the timeline and don't focus too hard...
It's been that long? 😢
That was a big oof when I heard that 😂
Watched it in 2011, had no idea it was that old.
I'm so relieved I wasn't the only one who saw The Pale Man as a young child and was left traumatized. I genuinely thought he was a fever dream for the longest time because no one had ever brought the movie he belonged to up around me.
We have a folk saying that to me perfectly explains the monster "The eyes saw the amount of work and got too scared to do it. The hands didn't see the amount of work and just started to do it."
The monster has 3 phases :
1) (at table) see nothing, do nothing
2) (hands on head) Can see, but can't do anything. Hands are "tied"
3) (Eyes in hands chasing) Can act, but does not see anything. Acting in the blind.
I think the creature refused to witness/acknowledge what it is doing. Therefore it is suffering by its own choices.
He supposed to be an allegory for supremacy in the context of social interaction. The one with authority has everything and acts like a victim when the one under authority steps even a toe out of line.
and since anyone else but the protagonist in there would be trapped they'd be forced to eventually break the rule due to their own biological needs. the system traps you, demands obedience, and forces you to disobey so it can justify what it does to you.
Yet another fine corollary to the main interpretation!
reminds me of certain groups of people who claim they are victims despite being at the very top of the social hierarchy and holding both immense soft and hard power.
Every political group thinks the other political group is like this.@@Nikotheleepic
@@Hater_Ultima true, but not everyone is correct.
One of the characters that left me with more questions than answers permanently.
Agreed!
My main question for years has been, where have I seen eyes in hands before Pan's Labyrinth? Why didn't it seem new? Removable eyes, sharable eyes, yes, but eye sockets in the hands? And don't say Evangelion. That's something different.
@@VinemapleJesus, maybe? He has holes in his palms.
@@Vinemaple There is a Japanese yokai named Tenome with similar features to the pale man, eyes on the hands, eyeless head, similar body shape, etc.
Theres another story from the creator where he used to be a boy who killed small animals for fun. He grew up as an inquisition member and loved it, torturing others every day.
Eventually, he backstabbed his superior and ate his heart, after that his eyes became so sick of the violence they popped out.. and he could'nt get them to stay in the sockets, so he sliced both his arms slits for them to rest there
It made absolutely no sense and pissed me the hell off when the girl ate from the table. She was so smart and sensible all the time and then just randomly disregarded clear rules in front of the most nightmarish being I've ever seen in film. with her back turned towards it, then swatted away the fairies trying to help her. MADDENING.
i was always inclined to read her decision to eat the food as an intentionally maddening or illogical one, representative of the controlling society around her. even the most measured person can act on instinct rather than intellect when the situation is dire (in the previous scene, she is denied dinner by her mother because she got her dress dirty and is sent to bed early, hence she is likely acting out of hunger - one of the most foundational human instincts.) her hunger then contrasts the insatiable greed of the pale man and the men at vidal's table - who have lots of food but always seem to want more. additionally, i would disagree that ofelia acts smart and sensible all the time, her story is built on disobedience and throughout the film she acts with clear disregard for any rules both in the human and fantasy world.
Im not buying it. the greed here is no symbolism for the righteous hunger than someone has after being intentionally starved for no fault of their own, especially during an injust dynamic like the one she found herself in. She had so much natural fear for so many things and still an inner defiance, not a single living being would turn their back on that monstrosity and I dont think she would have either. They could have had her reach out to the food, her struggling to choose between her fear of the being and the warning, and her intense hunger .... and before she even gets to tmake the desiicion for herself, she touches the food and the creature awakens. I don tlike when the audience has to "make it make sense."
@mp5
It wasn't random though. Her mom made her go to bed without food because she dirtied her dress. At the end of the day she is a child. A hungry child isn't logical. I think it makes total sense.
What's even more maddening is how people try so hard to explain this away with theories clearly *not supported by the film*. Maybe del Toro had an intent, but he left the audience confused and frustrated. I understand the sequence is great and everyone wants it to be *perfect*, but minor tweaks could have fixed this glaring issue. When you don't communicate your character's motives, you fail your audience.
@@Jugem16 What feels supported by the facts is that Ophelia is a starving child in a fantastical environment where ultimately everything is stacked against her. It has been demonstrated time and again that giving humans an instruction of what they not to do, only increases the temptation. Ophelia is a hungry child, who was sent to bed without food. She sees the feast and decides to take only a small bite, just a single grape. 'Who would miss it.' Such an innocent temptation like a child who steals a piece of gum. Yes, it's wring but it doesn't feel so significant and it's not like you're hurting anyone, that is usually the thought process.
The Pale Man bears a resemblance to a Japanese youkai called the Tenome, makes me wonder if Guillermo del Toro got a bit of inspiration from it for the Pale Man's appearance?
I want to know more, does it have eyes in its palms? Because I always felt I'd read about that somewhere.
@@Vinemaple It does! The Tenome is described as an old person (around eighty or so years) that has eyes on both palms rather than on its face.
It first appeared on a wall scroll painting from the Edo Period (year 1737) called the Hyakkai Zukan (translated as 'The Illustrated Volume of a Hundred Demons') by the artist Sawaki Suushi and later appeared again in a book published in 1776 titled the Gazu Hyakki Yagyo (translated as 'The Illustrated Night Parade of a Hundred Demons' or as 'The Illustrated Demon Horde's Night Parade') which originated as a reference to said wall scroll painting.
I learned of the Pale Man first after seeing Pan's Labyrinth around the time it first released over here in the States, and years later, I became fascinated by the subject of Japanese youkai and when I first saw the Tenome, my mind immediately recalled the Pale Man because they look similar. I hope that helps!
yeah the pale man is based on it lol
Del Toro is unreliable at best.
When this film was released he said that Pale Man’s appearance was based on HIiS OWN appearance, and the way he felt. Because he had lost a lot of weight, and viewed himself as sickly, pale and empty looking.
If you ask him today, it’s about white supremacy and colonizers. Because that’s what is in right now.
I think it's a pretty common design choice. He could have also been based on the hairy guy from "AAahhh! Real Monsters!"
First you decide you want to move the eyes to add some freakiness.
Where would you put the eyes? The hands are the next logical place if not on the head. Anywhere else would be pretty goofy lol.
Remember, when facing a cannibal, the best course of action is to try and eat it back. TF it gonna do, eat you back?
Yes, very yes
The hydra gains a new head…
That head is you, if you dare eat a cannibal.
If you dare cut off a head, instead of starving the beast to their end.
When I was a kid watching this for the first time the Pale Man terrified me. The sheer uncanny body movements, grotesque physique, I had nightmares of this creature. Until my older brother said he would've replaced his eyes with grapes from the table so he could eat freely lmao
I loved the pale man. He's so interesting, but also so incredibly awful.
I showed him to my kids when they were little and they were terrified, but then we watched again and i asked them - what would happen if she threw the eyeballs into the fire? Or if she cut him up while he was asleep? And then look how derpy he runs. What would happen if he tried to grab you, and you had a pointy thing in your hand? Couldn't you just poke his eye?
He became very silly after that.
I actually helped my younger sister conquer her fear of Bloody Mary that way.
I told her to imagine what would happen if Bloody Mary tried to come get her through the mirror but the mirror was made of shatterproof or bulletproof glass so she ends up knocking herself unconscious when she tries to burst through the mirror. 😂
Nothing kills fear more than humor.
Imma be honest, Tale Foundry is my favorite way of learning about new books, movies and series to explore. Keep making these amazing videos!
"This... Is the pale man *puts a pic of me on screen*" dude... I'm ginger, I can't help it!
"This place has rules, or so they say.
And if you break them? A price you'll pay."
Do not. Fuck. With Fae Rules. 🌙
At the time, del Toro said in an interview that the image came from seeing a ray, with its gaping mouth and nosrils that seem placed like eyes. He found its expanse of featureless white skin horrifying. I have seen them in aquariums and I agree, seen from below they are weird. It takes a moviemaker to take an image he finds horrible to represent a horrific idea.
he's just at that awkward stage, he's a growing lad, it's fineeeeeeeeeeee.
Have you read Hyperion? I think The Shrike would be a really interesting creature for you to talk about.
Yeah, the shrike IS amazing
The Skrike is a nightmare.
I always read the fact that the fairies appear again at the end as a sign that the final scene is all in her head, the final hallucinations of a dying brain. It just seemed too bright and cheery compared to the other times we see the fairy world. I don't know what Del Toro has said definitively, but it seems like the movie is clearly a tragedy in which a girl, who uses fantasies to escape her horrible reality, experiences reality invading, and ultimately corrupting, her fantasies until she is eventually killed by a world which cannot abide those dreams. At the end, her vision of the fairy world is her choosing to willfully ignore the way things are one final time, and we the viewers are made to ask ourselves if its worth it to dream even in a world that will likely destroy those dreams.
Hi guys, your videos inspire me to tell stories and create my own worlds, i think everyone that watch this channel have feel this way once, thank you very much for everything.
The calm, insightful, empathetic pace of the videos makes every one a beautifully fluid work of storytelling. It leaves your mind abuzz with ideas, a work of passion inspiring the creation of others.
Stepping on grass would finish him off
I never understood how she was able to keep her appetite after seeing a monster like that, even with the warnings, even as an adult that makes no sense.
(If what we see in the movie is actually happening)
Since I watched Pan's Labirynth as a child when it first came out it's my number 1 favourite movie. It's a complete masterpiece that just keeps on giving. And yeah, Pale Man is one of the scariest movie monsters I've seen.
This is the first time I heard of the Pale Man and the movie it originated from, Pan's Labyrinth. But I like the message they shown already!
You must watch it...there really is nothing like it.
I saw it during spanish class in high school, it's a really great film.
“The Pale Man” seems to be the opposite of most horror characters. He’s pale, while most scary characters are in dark colours, matching the dark atmosphere of their stories. Despite being pale, The Pale Man fits with his dark tale.
Black hmm 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
You somehow have managed to miss all other instances of scary pale humanoids in fiction... Strange.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo I’m not saying The Pale Man is the only pale horror character. I’m saying unlike The Pale Man most horror characters are in dark colours.
@@MinisDunyasi5 and you would remain mistaken. Pale humanoid is a classic trope.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo It is classic but not as common as dark creatures lurking in the shadows.
this movie is 18 years old now
I’ve been trying to figure out how to describe the feeling of fear and security horror allows me. I wonder if the pale man is the answer. I wonder into the dark knowing this place has rules and at the other end reward isn’t something anyone else can determine for me. Thanks for the video.
I lost so much sleep as a kid after seeing this creature. I think it took me like 4 weeks to be normal again. Anyways as an adult I love this things design and it will always hold a traumatic place in my heart
When I was little, my dad was watching this movie and I saw the Pale man scene where he eats the fairy. That thing and just the whole design and feel of the monster as a whole scared me so much that to this day, I've never watched Pan's Labyrinth.
I've seen plenty of horror movie or gory content but something about that scene just brings forth this very old and deep fear within me which I can't seem to shake.
Same, I watched it with my dad when I was like 10 years old, and that scene shocked me so much as a kid. Never watched the movie again but now I have to watch it for my Spanish class 🥲
Even as a kid who enjoyed monsters and horror media, the Pale Man disturbed me a lot. The scene where he eats tha fairies left me scared for days after watching the movie.
Question? Have you thought of doing a video on how some stories start off comedic, but actually turn out to be very deep and serious? Because I think your perspective would be amazing.
Talking about how some stories do it great while others do it poorly. Like The Legend Of Vox Machina they justify their tonal shifts really well.
Adding to this I'd love to hear a discussion about stories that are designed to appear comedic but are horrifying and terrible under the surface
my therapist is Richard Jones
His brother is Doug Jones
Doug Jones played The Pale Man and Pan in that movie
This makes me cool by proxy
Doug Jones has done such amazing creature and character work. Very neat :)
oh snap im glad the fairys were still alive at the end. it was sad to think they were dead all this time .
I remember watching this move like two years ago in my classical mythology class.
Something I loved about it was that, at least to me, make it unclear if everything going on with Ophelia was actually true or just her imagination.
The movie has a very interesting view of reality, if not entirely complete or otherwise based on reality.
I know this probably won't get seen but i adore your' guys content! I feel like i can just relax and delve into some interesting stuff while i do something else, having a break from the stresses of the world, so thank you! ❤️
This actually has me changing direction for a character, only slightly though, he was already a monster.
Truly one of Mitch McConnells best roles ❤
whatdya mean? Pale man was done by Doug Jones.
@@captainleonox3818 It's a joke. Mitch McConnell is an American conservative politician who happens to look like the Pale Man.
Fun fact: The Pale Man wasn't originally part of the script. Mitch McConnell just showed up on set one day and tried to devour the lead actress while the cameras were rolling.
@@captainleonox3818Don’t make us r/whoosh you.
The Faun and the Pale Man are the same in more than one way, then . . . It's the same actor playing both characters. Del Toro loves working with Doug Jones for a reason.
Absolutely terrifying as a kid, when on rewatch the terrifying parts are the entirely mundane ones.
That opening animation is great. I love it!
I always find it amazing just how many rolls the actor of the pale man has actually done. Just most people don't even realise it because of his body type and him being quite ok with all the make up etc he plays so many rolls like this. I was like wwwwwhhaaaaaatttttt????? When my husband was telling me a load of things he's been in, then I looked him up and saw how many times ive seen him, but never really seen him. He's awesome, he brings so many different characters to life and sometimes so well without even speaking.
Doug Jones, Inn case anyone doesn't know him and what he's been in. You might be Wwwwwhhaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt????? Like I was.
I hadn't heard that "the straight line is godless" and had to pause and contemplate it for a while after hearing that
I absolutely love the artistry, style, and tone of this channel. It takes a style of content ive seen before on other channels and morphs it into something very simple, impactful, and honestly kinda beautiful (the music choices for intro and back ground). You can feel the passion, and craftsmanship. New to the channel but its kinda something im binging now.
I watched this movie as a kid with my mom. The pale man scene stuck with me so much that it's influenced the way i design monsters.
Funny thing: Just reread Pyramids by Terry Pratchett, and in it a mummy carries its eyes in its hands (because he just located them in a jar in the next room)
Talefoundry: The pale man is not a monster.
Pale man: 🤭
I love how Guillermo always asks Doug if hes ok wirh the characters hes playing in whatever movie theyre working on bc of Doug's religion. Doug is like majestic. He was born to do this.
Fairytales were LITERALLY originally written this way.
Giambattista Basile wrote the original fairy tales.
Then the Germans, "Brothers Grimm," wrote more fairy tales.
It was also continues after in Europe, other continents had entire different types of stories they called them and styles.
Then Pan's Labrynth was based in Spain. The Fairy Tales were ORIGINALLY childrens horror stories that taught a lesson. Pan's Labrynth CARRIED that tradition, it is 100% a fairy tale, through and through.
Reading Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces and the archetype and myth parallels are fun here
I mean the original fairy tales or elements that were later stitched into a single tale were usually pretty grim lol. PL adds a hauntingly beautiful reprise to the true tradition of fairy tale story telling. Perhaps Homerian too
Spanish teachers showed that movie in class so many times i must have seen it a dozen times in total
The image/illustration with Ophelia and Pan mirrored back to back is awesome. I love how it highlights the spirals they share - her hair and his horns - running in opposite directions. Very neat!
Mitch McConnell really did slay in Pan’s Labyrinth 💀
It's freakin terrifying that's what it is. I wasn't even that young when I first saw this!
this thing was always my most horrifying nightmare💀
Pan's Labyrinth is one of my favourite movies and it is a huge reason why I love Guillermo Del Toro.
I can’t love your videos enough! Great work every single time. ❤
To me, he is: "I have everything you want, but I won't even consume it. Alas, if you take any of it or break my rules, I shall consume you"
this is my favorite movie so i got so excited when i saw this - i pretty much grew up on dark fairytales so that’s why i like it bc it has a similar feeling
this is one of my favorite movies thank you for covering this
Once again, I am floored by all the luscious, beautiful art in your videos.
Awesome video, but also really cool to hear you’re working on your own thing 😁 enjoying that process is the most important thing to help you maintain the drive needed to finish, and I’m looking forward to hearing more about your work! 😁 keep it up!
I swear I forgot about this when I watched it as a kid yers ago but the thumbnail brought it bck vividly
Man, these videos always make me want to write my own things.
Keep it up!
Thanks for informing about WORLD ANVIL, this will come in so much handy for me when I finally work on my projects.
Awesome work.
I remenber how much the Plae Man affected me as I saw it as a child.
all of your videos are so interesting :0 it feels like im reading a whole book via video form
I never thought of this thing as just a monster before, but you have convinced me that its just a monster.
So happy for you and your world! I suffer from something similar, in that I have an idea that spirals out of control before my fingers hit the keys.
However, I’m getting better at the writing part, I think. I’ve also been taking a break from what should have been a single, short urban fantasy story (it became a mammoth thing in my head) to work on a project I’ve shelved since high school. Equipped with your videos and the Alone in a Room With Invisible People podcast, I’ve finally been having fun! (And am consciously checking my brain for worldbuilding slip and slides that trip up my plans and ideas- yes, sometimes they’re fun, and other times, you’ll break something important)
Best of luck to you and your team! And please keep us updated- I LOVE DREAM-BASED MAGICS!
I grew up with this movie, as a common topic in my home atleast. The reason i find the pale man so captivating is how decrepit, sluggish, and kind of sad it is, as all it is, is just a human falling apart, and crippled.
I’m sure it’s not lost on you that Pan from Greek Mythology was also a faun and the parallels are definitely there. So I wouldn’t put it past the character to trick Ophelia as some sort of test. He did try to get her to SPOILERS hand over her baby brother to him
from what i understand of the pale man he was once a handsome but sadistic man whose name has been long forgotten, he was gluttonous, gorging himself excessively with food and drink. as punishment for his excess. he was cursed to never be able to eat food and drink again and turned into this pale horrid thing. driven by feral hunger and drive survive he resorted to cannibalism. he feasted on children because they are what he could catch with ease. As further punishment for his crimes. he was trapped in that room with a banquet he could never eat and his life-force was bound to the dagger. As long as it was in his lair/prison, he would never die. All those shoes are previous victims who tried but never succeeded to get the blade. but thankfully he died after the blade was taking out of his lair/prison.
Dang! What a beautiful video! I loved it.
The Pale Man followed me in my head for years after I saw this movie
i remember searching for movies in my tv's catalogue back years ago and stumbling across this movie, i ended up watching it because i was a kid looking for entertainment
i remember not understanding anything about the movie, about its messages, i also don't remember much from the movie (i think it was about war?)
but this one scene, this one scene i still remember, it's in a special corner of my brain
the chalk drawing a claustrophobic opening to this eerie, unknown land. the temptation, the feast, and the pale man
i understood nothing, but when that monster started chasing the girl back because she ate grapes, my stupid dumb child brain that couldn't understand any other part of the movie, understood.
i had thoughts about how the girl could've avoided the thing just by not eating, but she did. because she was pushed by fate and her own being to eat, because she couldn't see what would be the consequences, because she was human.
and i didn't remember the pale man as a monster, but as something calm, something that sat there for a long time until it was awoken, something just pale, something peaceful and something greater than human, it was not something to fear, but something to know, to understand, to find.
what a weird child i was.
Wow! This is my first time seeing your animated intro. It looks so good!
World anvil is going to be a HUGE help. Thank you TaleBot!
This was excellent. Much appreciated.
oh my GOODNESS its a new upload! only found this channel somewhat recently, and although i'm not in any way a writer i just wanted to say that i've absolutely become a fan. to anyone and everyone involved in the making of these videos, i hope you know that to many people you've created something special, enjoyable, entertaining and inspirational. anyways sorry for talking so long, have an amazing day/night
Bro that intro animation was fucking beautiful
I would love to see an official lore video of tale foundry, because we got all kinds of hints and we know something but I wish that the lore would move at lest a little bit.
When writing fables influenced stories I try my best to have it tie in with reality. Just feels natural for writing fairy tales and fables
I'm guessing someone else may have already pointed this out, but the movie's from 2006, so you should have said "almost 2 decades ago" around the 43 second mark
Watching this with your #1 fan, ChiChi the Hedgehog.
She gon be 1yo on March 29th if you wanna wish her a happy birthday.
Thanks for all of these videos!
Happy birthday ChiChi!
The word you were looking for, not "weak" or "pathetic," because it is certainly dangerous. The word you want is "wretched."