This is the first time I heard anyway talk about that gap at the top of the swing- it causes regripping and all sorts of other issues. Hugely validating to hear Mr Hogan worried about this. For me it is the number 1 test to check if my grip is correct- rotate to the top and check that right hand is still secure.
This video might just have changed my life! ...or at least my golf swing. Moved left thumb up shaft, closing it to left hand and immediately started hitting clubs 10-15 yards further and with more consistency.
Jim Mclean is the gentlemen in the video. I forgot the name of this particular show, but it was a series featured on the Golf Channel and was very popular. Jim Mclean is a world renowned instructor. Although I don't agree with a lot of the things he says, I respect that fact that he has successfully taught many golfers.
Once I went to this grip, I found that I could "fling" my right hand as hard as I want and release it as hard as I can. The hang time on my drives is unbelievable and my friends can't believe how much farther I can hit it. If you get this right, it will change your game for sure.
I use exactly this later version of the Hogan grip. I never knew the Vardon grip was over the 1st finger and not in the gap, as described at 5:19. I still draw the ball using the Hogan grip. I thought you were supposed to be able to turn the hands over as it's part of learning to really feel the hands working. But the Hogan grip and keeping the face open until squaring it at impact does help keep a hook at bay. IMHO, Hogan's secret was he knew a lot more about the swing than even other pros.
If you want to play good golf you MUST have a GREAT-not good, grip! To me the best advice I have seen on the golf grip is in this video. For me personally the payoff and key is from 4:26 to 4:44. High right hand as opposed to on the side, or worse from under the left hand. This caused me to be severely under plane in my back swing, and hit big pull hooks.!
+ezeddie32 Simply not true at all !!!!!!!!!! Many of the worlds best tour pros have reached the top of the game with a grip that is by this definition strong or hookers grip, Dustin Johnson, David Duval, Jum Furyk, Paul Azinger, Fred Couples, Zach Johnson, Bubba Watson and Moe Norman to name a small few who would disprove your statement that you 'MUST nave a GREAT grip'
I find it very interesting that Ben made that subtle thumb change to a slightly weaker grip to eliminate his hook...i discovered the exact same thing; I started playing with the typical slice then got somewhat straight, then took lessons at Bay Hill (Dick Tiddy) who taught me to draw the ball and then my bad shot became a hook which some days I would struggle with all round...trying to find a way to get rid of the hook I was messing around at teh range and discovered with a weaker/more neutral grip my hook tended to turn into a straight ball...so I made the same change and after getting used to it, my game improved to the point that I became about a 5 handicapper and shot par a few times and even shot under par on a difficult track..
this is what i meant in my previous post. a hook grip does get you more distance. and works for tour pros that play golf 24/ 7. for people that have jobs and play 1-2 rounds a week. a weaker grip might mean less distance but much more consistent and better golf.
Hogan spent hours upon hours in perfecting the links that made him a legend. Do you think people can copy what he did by going to the range once a week and playing on a course once a week. I love the entire history of Bens life from struggling to make money to becoming the best golfer of all time, but i flip my eyes at the thought of golfers trying to copy what he did. You talk about Bens short thumb,, well Ben had huge hands, would you recommend that to someone with small hands? Ben shifted his weight onto the right leg and his weight shift was amazing because he lifted the heel on his left foot to increase the torque which i believe was copied by Jack Nicholas. Can you imagine the ave golfer trying that LOL? I would love to see more footage of Ben himself not people on youtube telling us what his secret was !! Ben perfected that swing over many years and many hours and that is coming from a super talented person.
Mandy Gould study Bobby Jones feet he proved you can hit the ball longer when you let your left heel come high off the ground as long as its replaced properly
Bobby jones had all of his left foot off the ground except the great toe as he called it. He convinced lighyhorse harry cooper to do it and harry almost won the us open. It increases your swing length for extra yardage while being smoothe. Just keep the weight ftom going outside your trail leg.
I am bewildered by all of the experts on these sites. You would think you are all PGA professionals winning every week. Seriously. Stop trying to be the expert and thinking you know betterr. Just go out and try it and see if it works. If it doesn't go back to your none professional weekly golfer game.
Jim Mcclean one of the country's best.Senior Golfers can overcome the effects on aging in golf. 5 Keys For More Distance. Why the method most tour players use doesn't work for the average golfer. bit.ly/1un44Ih
There is no professional who understands why the grip is Vardon or Interlocking grip instead of a 10 finger or baseball grip. If you understand the principle write it here.
+Hubert Macachor you want your hands to work together. With a baseball grip your hands will work more independently of each other, resulting in very inconsistent ball flights
Years later but I still have no choice but to comment. It’s all about leverage. Even just the inch more or whatever it may be of shaft length you get back from the Vardon/Interlock, it will increase club head speed. Fairly simple concept.
This can make you hook and can ruin your golf game. But that is due to other things in the actual swing that is flawed. But when a beginner I started hook which almost made me quit. So beware, you will have to adjust your swing too, if you start hooking bad, so bad. But I use the basic grip now and pretty much never hook, only when experimenting at the range.
You never explain what the Hell a long thumb is. is it moving the hand up the club, is it bending the thumb to shorten it. if the former, how does moving the hand up the c;ub shorten the thumb. CONFUSED
+Thomas Huettner A long thumb is simply sliding it down the shaft. Pulling the thumb up the shaft creates a short thumb. When sliding the thumb, the grip with the rest of the fingers doesn't change and the position of the hand on the golf club doesn't change
@@daverosenthal2209 it's a bit more complicated than that.. the long thumb comes partly from extra ulnar deviation in the wrist. The short thumb is from a more neutral wrist.
The instruction about the V's is useless, if you have large hands you have much more overlap of the thumb and that is not fixed by a midsize grip. What matters is where you make contact with the grip INSIDE the hand, the outside can cover up all kind of grip issues.
Best grip that has yielded me many low scores. Right hand is evil. Super video. Thanks
Great video man thanks my coach told me to search this and I understand why now
This is the first time I heard anyway talk about that gap at the top of the swing- it causes regripping and all sorts of other issues. Hugely validating to hear Mr Hogan worried about this. For me it is the number 1 test to check if my grip is correct- rotate to the top and check that right hand is still secure.
Great video!!! Thank you for breaking it all down.
Beautiful
This video might just have changed my life! ...or at least my golf swing. Moved left thumb up shaft, closing it to left hand and immediately started hitting clubs 10-15 yards further and with more consistency.
Used this grip today. First time I’ve ever broken 90.
congrats!
@@fhdjsun Thank you Sir!!!
Left hand is the holder and the right arm is the folder!
I agree. It’s really a secured grips. And it felt more like the left and right hand were one whole grip
Good video, very helpful!
Jim Mclean is the gentlemen in the video. I forgot the name of this particular show, but it was a series featured on the Golf Channel and was very popular. Jim Mclean is a world renowned instructor. Although I don't agree with a lot of the things he says, I respect that fact that he has successfully taught many golfers.
Once I went to this grip, I found that I could "fling" my right hand as hard as I want and release it as hard as I can. The hang time on my drives is unbelievable and my friends can't believe how much farther I can hit it. If you get this right, it will change your game for sure.
Thanks again.
excellent video
gold!
Excellent lesson ty
There looks to be other parts in this video series. Any chance of uploading them?
I use exactly this later version of the Hogan grip.
I never knew the Vardon grip was over the 1st finger and not in the gap, as described at 5:19.
I still draw the ball using the Hogan grip. I thought you were supposed to be able to turn the hands over as it's part of learning to really feel the hands working. But the Hogan grip and keeping the face open until squaring it at impact does help keep a hook at bay.
IMHO, Hogan's secret was he knew a lot more about the swing than even other pros.
Yessssss!!! The grip is the most important part of the swing.
This is the best of the videos I have seen on the Five Lessons-grip. Who is the guy in the video and where is the rest of his instruction to be found?
Its Jim McLean
If you want to play good golf you MUST have a GREAT-not good, grip! To me the best advice I have seen on the golf grip is in this video. For me personally the payoff and key is from 4:26 to 4:44. High right hand as opposed to on the side, or worse from under the left hand. This caused me to be severely under plane in my back swing, and hit big pull hooks.!
+ezeddie32 Simply not true at all !!!!!!!!!! Many of the worlds best tour pros have reached the top of the game with a grip that is by this definition strong or hookers grip, Dustin Johnson, David Duval, Jum Furyk, Paul Azinger, Fred Couples, Zach Johnson, Bubba Watson and Moe Norman to name a small few who would disprove your statement that you 'MUST nave a GREAT grip'
You are the best
More Ben Hogan teachings please.
This guy is good!
I prefer the second grip prevents nasty hooks.
in a hogan video, ben referred to another players grip being comfortable. does anyone know of that video? i can't find it.
The grip pressure is the most important part 〽️
Jim McLean
I find it very interesting that Ben made that subtle thumb change to a slightly weaker grip to eliminate his hook...i discovered the exact same thing; I started playing with the typical slice then got somewhat straight, then took lessons at Bay Hill (Dick Tiddy) who taught me to draw the ball and then my bad shot became a hook which some days I would struggle with all round...trying to find a way to get rid of the hook I was messing around at teh range and discovered with a weaker/more neutral grip my hook tended to turn into a straight ball...so I made the same change and after getting used to it, my game improved to the point that I became about a 5 handicapper and shot par a few times and even shot under par on a difficult track..
this is what i meant in my previous post. a hook grip does get you more distance. and works for tour pros that play golf 24/ 7. for people that have jobs and play 1-2 rounds a week. a weaker grip might mean less distance but much more consistent and better golf.
Yes - immediate results....no hooking and pretty straight. Sorry boys at Painswick golf club but no lost Golf balls this week :)
Hogan spent hours upon hours in perfecting the links that made him a legend. Do you think people can copy what he did by going to the range once a week and playing on a course once a week. I love the entire history of Bens life from struggling to make money to becoming the best golfer of all time, but i flip my eyes at the thought of golfers trying to copy what he did. You talk about Bens short thumb,, well Ben had huge hands, would you recommend that to someone with small hands?
Ben shifted his weight onto the right leg and his weight shift was amazing because he lifted the heel on his left foot to increase the torque which i believe was copied by Jack Nicholas. Can you imagine the ave golfer trying that LOL?
I would love to see more footage of Ben himself not people on youtube telling us what his secret was !! Ben perfected that swing over many years and many hours and that is coming from a super talented person.
Mandy Gould study Bobby Jones feet he proved you can hit the ball longer when you let your left heel come high off the ground as long as its replaced properly
Bobby jones had all of his left foot off the ground except the great toe as he called it. He convinced lighyhorse harry cooper to do it and harry almost won the us open. It increases your swing length for extra yardage while being smoothe. Just keep the weight ftom going outside your trail leg.
so in hogans book he actually shows the end of the club under the thumb pad not the hand pad, thumb pad like your showing.
3.13 got me shoeten the thumb as i also loose at top of swing
the only grip i that i know that was close to hogan was stan leonard's grip.
I am bewildered by all of the experts on these sites. You would think you are all PGA professionals winning every week. Seriously. Stop trying to be the expert and thinking you know betterr. Just go out and try it and see if it works. If it doesn't go back to your none professional weekly golfer game.
well, they know better than you... that is for sure. Buthurt
Isn’t the Hogan Roll a big reason for his grip?
Short thumb Norman talks about that
why is it important that the v faces the right shoulder?
+Tony Tran It creates a strong grip, but not too strong, which allows the hands to rotate and create a draw
Jim Mcclean one of the country's best.Senior Golfers can overcome the effects on aging in golf. 5 Keys For More Distance. Why the method most tour players use doesn't work for the average golfer. bit.ly/1un44Ih
There is no professional who understands why the grip is Vardon or Interlocking grip instead of a 10 finger or baseball grip. If you understand the principle write it here.
+Hubert Macachor you want your hands to work together. With a baseball grip your hands will work more independently of each other, resulting in very inconsistent ball flights
Years later but I still have no choice but to comment. It’s all about leverage. Even just the inch more or whatever it may be of shaft length you get back from the Vardon/Interlock, it will increase club head speed. Fairly simple concept.
This can make you hook and can ruin your golf game. But that is due to other things in the actual swing that is flawed. But when a beginner I started hook which almost made me quit. So beware, you will have to adjust your swing too, if you start hooking bad, so bad. But I use the basic grip now and pretty much never hook, only when experimenting at the range.
Exactly. The “second” grip works better for me as well. Slight fade or straight. I can live with that.
You never explain what the Hell a long thumb is. is it moving the hand up the club, is it bending the thumb to shorten it. if the former, how does moving the hand up the c;ub shorten the thumb. CONFUSED
+Thomas Huettner A long thumb is simply sliding it down the shaft. Pulling the thumb up the shaft creates a short thumb. When sliding the thumb, the grip with the rest of the fingers doesn't change and the position of the hand on the golf club doesn't change
@@daverosenthal2209 it's a bit more complicated than that.. the long thumb comes partly from extra ulnar deviation in the wrist. The short thumb is from a more neutral wrist.
The instruction about the V's is useless, if you have large hands you have much more overlap of the thumb and that is not fixed by a midsize grip. What matters is where you make contact with the grip INSIDE the hand, the outside can cover up all kind of grip issues.
A Vardon and Interlocking grip is more powerful than a baseball grip because you have a longer arc.
Bitte in deutscher Sprache
Great comment. Thanks
This grip is a good way to get arthritis lol
If you want video to confuse the heck out of you this would be it
Yes..it is much easier understanding how to grip your member, and then swing it around. In front of her.
You will learn nothing here.try making the divot with lee comeaux. Fact