I’m glad that the Western Roman Empire as portrayed in Total War: Attila is more historically authentic in terms of its military, as in most forms of media depicting the Fall of Rome, even in documentaries, the Western Romans are often incorrectly portrayed as using the same type of weapons and armor that the legionnaires of the Pax Romana era (31 B.C.E. to 180 C.E.) used, with the short gladius sword, pilum javelin, rectangular scutum shield, and laminar armor, when in reality by this point in time the Western Romans had abandoned the gladius in favor of a longer sword called the spatha, discontinued using the pilum and adopted heavier non-throwing spears instead, stopped wearing laminar armor in favor of chain mail armor, and had phased out the scutum shield and replaced it with an oval shield.
Low budged and/or poor quality writters. I remember the hollywood movie Attila, with Gerard Butler, lmao, the exact romans you described. Also, thanks for more detailed info.
Technically, the word Gladius just means sword, and the late empire swords were different from the cavalry spatha (and still called a Gladius). The Pilum also still saw use to a degree in the later empire. Just wasn't used by every soldier anymore.
Honestly Late Game armies of Cornuti Spears, Ravenna Crossbows and Herculiani are the units that carry the WRE. Legio and Comitatensis Spears are so useless
Lower tier units aren't great. Specially if you play with WRE, they are attacked all the time. I was able to win a campaign but i did in the easiest mode and even then, it looked like it was in hard mode. xD
@@DominatorGarage xD I would like to play with WRE, but even on the easiest level it's hard. You will be taking the majority of time just in defending your settlements and you can only start to expand when the Huns will be weaker, which will eventually happen, but just by the end of the campaign. The ERE is way more stable and you will not be attacked so often and geographically it's easier to defend. At least this is my observations.
@@DominatorGarage Try the better roman units mod (basically matches early tier roman units to early-mid tier barb inf, and mid tier roman inf to mid-late tier barb inf, and buff Roman late tiers to match barbarian Late tiers). Makes it much more historical since it was poor economic performance and bureaucracy that let the west down not the legions. When Romans did manage to scrap together funds and men for an army they usually do win against the barbarians.
Actually that’s because the enemy ai has stat cheats at high difficulty, basically meaning they’ll always be better than your units, making your melee units die faster
I’m glad that the Western Roman Empire as portrayed in Total War: Attila is more historically authentic in terms of its military, as in most forms of media depicting the Fall of Rome, even in documentaries, the Western Romans are often incorrectly portrayed as using the same type of weapons and armor that the legionnaires of the Pax Romana era (31 B.C.E. to 180 C.E.) used, with the short gladius sword, pilum javelin, rectangular scutum shield, and laminar armor, when in reality by this point in time the Western Romans had abandoned the gladius in favor of a longer sword called the spatha, discontinued using the pilum and adopted heavier non-throwing spears instead, stopped wearing laminar armor in favor of chain mail armor, and had phased out the scutum shield and replaced it with an oval shield.
Low budged and/or poor quality writters. I remember the hollywood movie Attila, with Gerard Butler, lmao, the exact romans you described. Also, thanks for more detailed info.
Technically, the word Gladius just means sword, and the late empire swords were different from the cavalry spatha (and still called a Gladius).
The Pilum also still saw use to a degree in the later empire. Just wasn't used by every soldier anymore.
Mate i enjoyed your information, thanks so much. Can you pleas tell me where did you find out about western toman military? Im very interested
@@johannchristian2551 I researched the late Roman army on the internet by using the sources listed in the citations on its Wikipedia page.
@@malgusvitiate7002 🙏 thanks so much
My favourite TW game since Medieval II.
Medieval III, when? x)
@@jvam16closest you can get right now is attilas 1212AD mod.
Thats what i waiting for,waiting for another faction showcase👍
Exculcatores are dealing some insane damage on cav units
Honestly Late Game armies of Cornuti Spears, Ravenna Crossbows and Herculiani are the units that carry the WRE.
Legio and Comitatensis Spears are so useless
I had to play WRE in the easiest difficulty and 60% of the game was just defending cities, lol.
Hmmmm I enjoy using Legio over cohors I rack about 200 or more kills holding cities but I play on normal :(
el atila es hermoso , gracias CA
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Elite Palatinas are pretty good.
half of the units are useless, I end up mostly using legio and second or third tier spears...
Lower tier units aren't great. Specially if you play with WRE, they are attacked all the time. I was able to win a campaign but i did in the easiest mode and even then, it looked like it was in hard mode. xD
@@jvam16 I play on very hard-legendary. The cohors rout pretty much instantly and limitani die like the wind knocked them down.
@@DominatorGarage xD I would like to play with WRE, but even on the easiest level it's hard. You will be taking the majority of time just in defending your settlements and you can only start to expand when the Huns will be weaker, which will eventually happen, but just by the end of the campaign. The ERE is way more stable and you will not be attacked so often and geographically it's easier to defend. At least this is my observations.
@@DominatorGarage Try the better roman units mod (basically matches early tier roman units to early-mid tier barb inf, and mid tier roman inf to mid-late tier barb inf, and buff Roman late tiers to match barbarian Late tiers). Makes it much more historical since it was poor economic performance and bureaucracy that let the west down not the legions. When Romans did manage to scrap together funds and men for an army they usually do win against the barbarians.
Actually that’s because the enemy ai has stat cheats at high difficulty, basically meaning they’ll always be better than your units, making your melee units die faster