Ted, you did a great job with that. It truly was a jungle out there. I watched with great anticipation as you neared the hay bales. Fortunately your skills were far greater than most and you successfully completed the task.
I bet that was a load of fun cutting down! That's awesome seeing that shoot out. That's funny about not knowing where the bales are at, a good problem to have 👍
When I worked at the feedyard we always planted 100+ acres of sorghum every year. We would chop it put in the pit and feed it to the cattle. It does get tall. Taller than the tractor.
That was cool watching the drone footage and seeing the mower push and then the gobs coming flying out. Can you imagine trying to cut that massive crop with out that good discbine. Was it a good year for cain or is it just a good variety. I baled some for a friend one year that was 6' tall and it laid for 5 weeks and we finally just baled it at 30% and he fed it before it warmed up in the spring. great vid
We have some pretty good dirt for this crop. I have some other stuff i plant but its shorter ... was planted later though but is way more leafy. So even thought how tall it is is impressive sometimes you have to step back and really look at the end result lol
@@tedkahler9738 Grandpa and Dad used to plant a lot of haygrazer... Grandpa liked to plant it super-thick because if you do it that way and cut it when it's about waist high, it's almost ALL LEAF and therefore VERY nutritious for the cows PLUS it's SO much easier to dry, which was important to him because back in the day all they had to cut it with was a Ford 501 sickle mower-- no conditioner! Stuff gets thick as hair on a dog's back but it SURE makes pretty hay! Now for maximum tonnage, yeah you want to cut it right when it boots out for maximum quality at maximum tonnage-- after it heads out it starts turning to wood fairly quickly, so boot stage is really the ideal time to cut for max tonnage yields. Of course when it gets 8-10 feet tall there's a LOT of stalk in it and those stalks take a long time to dry, even if they're conditioned, but even more so if it's just straight cut with no conditioner. Planting it really thick of course increases the seed cost, BUT when you cut it at waist to maybe chest high and it's all leaf, the stems will only be about the size of a pencil or maybe a touch bigger maybe like your little finger, not big or bigger than your thumb like when you cut it at 8+ feet tall... Later! OL J R :)
Planted that 2 years ago and I was able to get it dry even without a conditioning mower but it sure took about a week but made some really good hay and we got to cut it twice sure like that mower
So... You usually start the other way.. ya, me too, but I don't have a center pivot. Gotta think about what you're doing backwards!! Had some Colorado 37 Oats and Timothy in some bottom ground many years ago, at the time, we pulled a JD 1327 discbine with an AC 7050, it was first gear!!! I had to stand on the fender to see over the top!!! Stalks were bigger than my thump!! It all went in small (16"x18") bales, they were about a foot apart... Fun.. LOL 😎
@@tedkahler9738 it was, I kept getting lost!!!! Couldn't see too many trees along the edge to follow. We used to cut 8+ acres/hour with that, after four hours in a 16 acre field my dad came to find out what was going on... I probably only had about four acres down, he couldn't believe it was that tall!!! About 6' is all we had ever had before, or since..
Wow Ted that is wild we had a field when I was a kid that got about that tall my dad's swather wouldn't even cut it he had to get somebody else to cut it it was amazing and I think but I think the stems were a little bit thicker it was a wet wet year and it was a great year for all the crops. The stuff we planted was like a cane it was called Sudax the cows love the stuff took two weeks I think for it to dry though
seeding rate was 20 pounds per acre.... and it was some sort of sorghum sudan cross... i just walked into the local seed place and said i need some cheep seed and this is what i walked out with. I never even looked at the tag. planted at the end of june
its not chocking because of the rollers its actually getting slowed down by the front of the machine trying to push it down.... they are v style steel rollers
lol. have some tonnage out there! is it regular sorghum Sudan grass? has it started to head out? vegetative growth has a LOT of nutrient value!! great energy and high TDN. here its used in a ration for steers with the cows just getting a little bit. are you using it for steers or cows?
IF i bale it it will be throwed into a tmr and be fed to everything. We feed everthing tmr when feeding EXCEPT when catttle are out on corn stalks and we want to supplement them some feed... then we will unroll bales. But everthing we feed gets tested and have a nutritionist make a balanced ration
lol reminds me of that one time I didn't mow my lawn for pretty much the whole year. Could almost hide in it. Didn't know lawn grass could grow six feet in a few months. Had to bush hog it.
nice i know some sunflowers do 12ft high but i prefer the 8fters for looks because chianti hybrid red ones kinda burgundy maroon but getting those to 12 ft would be sweet like to see these two tall crops side by side. thanks keep on plantin 💜👍
Awsome . What plant is this? Îs it Sudan grass? Take my advice: rip pt cut from ground one average plant. Put it in the ground . Measure with tape East and without climbing the mower
What variety is this and where did you find it? I'm going to put some haygrazer out next spring to see how it does for hay. Do you have any tips for this stuff?
14 days in perfect world but one thing about baling dry cain is you just dont worry about it for a while... might get rained on... snowed on... have baled some in march that tested the same quality as the stuff we baled in the fall... If it lays a month so be it... just cant get in a hurry
nitrogen leaching would be nitrogen going into the ground but nitrate poisoning is what your pry thinking. First and for-most nitrate poisoning is not only common with this stuff but also common with oats rye barley millets as well as most other grasses. All should be checked and blended down if need be. And prussic acid is something i have never had problems with myself so im not very schooled in that may have to flipp over to google and search.
I was wondering that.The grown potential seems to be a lot higher on kane than millet.I was looking at feeding it direct to steers in the heat of summer.
@@tedkahler9738 Prussic acid CAN be a problem with sorghum sudan but more with Johnsongrass... they're all related (cousins) to each other anyway... The thing is, Prussic acid is hydrogen cyanide. When the grass is cut, it outgasses as the grass dries down. SO, if you're making it into DRY HAY then Prussic acid will simply outgas with the moisture as the hay dries down, and won't be a problem. Where you REALLY have to watch for Prussic acid is if your direct-grazing, green chop to feed immediately, or putting it up as silage or balage. Prussic acid can form when grass is injured by frost or after a dry spell when it gets some rain or water and suddenly greens up. Normally it will outgas from the plant naturally over about 5-7 days after the frost or greenup, then it SHOULD be safe to graze or chop. Always best to test though, because hydrogen cyanide is about the most poisonous substance known to man-- it can kill cattle within a couple minutes, usually on about their third bite if it's at high levels. Prussic acid poisoning results in a bright cherry red blood of the cattle affected from its reaction with the blood hemoglobin. Nitrate poisoning is different in that it's more of a drought problem-- where water becomes the limiting factor to growth (drought conditions) in soils with high fertility (plenty of available nitrate fertilizer from heavily fertilized fields) the plants naturally gather nitrogen from the soil and concentrate it in the plant tissues, waiting sufficient water to put on a "growth spurt" where the stored nitrogen can be quickly used for growth and respiration of the grass. If sufficient water for this growth or respiration never comes, the nitrates simply remain concentrated and stored in the plant tissue. When it is cut or chopped, it remains in the plant regardless of whether its field-cured for dry hay, or chopped for green chop or silage, and it is not removed by fermentation or curing. Cattle ingesting excessive levels of nitrate get nitrate poisoning, where the animal's blood will basically look like chocolate milk-- it'll be a dark brown color instead of the normal "blood red" as the nitrates lock up the ability of the blood hemoglobin to absorb and carry oxygen, thus the animal asphyxiates and dies. The only solution for dealing with high nitrate forages is TESTING the nitrate levels and then DILUTION by mixing high-nitrate forages into blended rations that "thin the nitrates out" by mixing it with known LOW-nitrate level forage or fodder so animals cannot consume enough to absorb dangerous amounts of nitrate into the blood. Our extension services around here frequently warn farmers who suffer crop failures due to drought in corn and grain sorghum which is typically heavily fertilized for grain production, if they plan to harvest droughted-out corn or grain sorghum for hay (which is typically in short supply in droughty seasons and thus in high demand and a lucrative way to recoup crop losses) to be sure and have nitrate levels tested before feeding to ensure livestock aren't poisoned by nitrates. Generally speaking, if the field has NOT had a heavy application of fertilizer made on it (as in the amount you'd apply for a typical grain crop yield goal) then nitrates should NOT build to dangerous levels, but even in forage sorghum (sorghum/sudan) if the field is fertilized for maximum tonnage of hay or silage it SHOULD be tested in drought conditions... Later! OL J R :)
I was waiting for someone to say that. I believe you can't see the back of the mower from where you're sitting in the tractor because of how tall the crop in fact you're were telling us about it clogging as it was clogging again, lol. I think that tractor has enough horsepower and that's a nice enough mower that it was taking care of it itself. You can also see the crop being pushed by the mower in the front of it. That is one heck of a good yield for that crop I think you were very smart for planting it. Nice set up 👌 too. Thanks for sharing!
I have noticed that some... The new Holland doesn't run a top shield but when its windy i adjust it to it doesnt throw it that high cause the wind can cause problems but if feel it fluffs the windrow more when its flying
We plant that a lot and if you leave it it’ll get even taller. we chop it and put it in egg bakes. Makes great feed for Cow. Does not need a lot of rain.
Did you ever get the protein checked on that stuff. That might work pretty good for me here on the farm for the cattle. Thanks for the video have a great evening
we test all the feed that is fed at our farm/ranch i prefer not to just piss into the wind i like to know my animals are getting exactly what they need for nutrition
That's your M.O. Elm, pissing in the wind and pissing off fellow farmers. And I guess crying and complaining and claiming to be a victim. I could add more but I'll be nice this morning.
Alta Seed is a good one. King Fisher has some called Sugar Pro 55. I planted it this year vs. another variety that I had planted last year. It did good. Some chop it I did baleage with mine last year I tried to dry it this year and basically ruined my crop from all the rain. Luckily it was cut early enough to make second cut on it. Will go into baleage for sure this time.
What is the reason for leaving such a narrow strip ? Just figured you have a reason and was curious what it is. And what is this grass called? Sorghum? Or is haygrazer the real name or is that like a generic term? Good video and thanks
Joshua Smith forage sorghum is real name. Was experimenting with narrow strip in the middle of a corn field to help with the nutrient needs of our cattle when they are grazing the corn stalks in the winter
Thats the same as sorgum ya? I worked on a farm in New Zealand and we grew that as a trial. It was too wet when it was ready for cows so we had to strip graze it....was funny watching the cows run into it and disappearing😂 just see the crop shaking😂 it was shit for milking off. In my experience and from what i think of it, it would make good silage for dry cows or part of a milking mix would be ok too i gues...cool video. Interesting how ye grow crops in narrow strips like that.
Normally dont farm in small strips but this was intend for the cows just to graze after i cut it when grazing the corn stubble in the winter months Trying to spend less on feed but still provide enough nutrients to cows when its cold out
Una segadora de ese estilo la tuve yo hace unos 21 años, y puedo asegurar que no está haciendo un buen trabajo. La mía era una kuhn alterna 500, vamos fue el propotipo de esa serie de máquinas.
I was recording the in cab footage with some camera glasses call "horrizon ivue pro"s i put the two clips together pulled the audio from the cam glasses then switched the video from the drone to the cam glasses. The cam glasses have the audio on that video
You should have stack them bails like Pyramid 👍 then cut a trail or maze and charge people to see it 😁 They say if you stack something like a pyramid it cures better and last longer. You better feed them out 👍
We used to plant sudan for silage when we had a dairy farm back many years ago when I was a teen. It was hell to cut after a wind storm. They didn’t make machinery like you’re using back them.
The bales weather fine.... and i dont want to have several thousand bales in one spot at the same time.... seems like a good way to loose all your hay if a fire breaks out!
I think all of the boxcar magnums are pretty good tractors. Basically the same tractor with some other more comfort features . I think when they first went to the mx series they had some electoral probs but now there sorted out in the newer magnums
@@tedkahler9738 There are different types of sorghum. One is for grain (most grown), there is one which is for syrup and one which is biomass sorghum, the biggest one grows over 4 m www.google.com/search?q=biomass+sorghum&rlz=1C1SQJL_enAU786AU786&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic1Lzc6sPjAhXn7nMBHV-1AFIQ_AUIESgB&biw=1366&bih=657 And remember sorghum is a drought tolerant C4 plant.
@@tedkahler9738 I know it is a hybrid Sudan grass, I just do not know what it is was other component which made it sudex. I do remember my uncle baled it in the 70's and I helped him harvest it many times before I joined the Navy.
This is another irrelevant comment but, I am really sure if you made a "cocktail" of cane(sudex) sunnehemp and tall sunflowers you would get a very very nutritious feed for cows (it might even need some dumbing down since sunnhemp in good fields can be almost 35%protein)
inter planting things in our cain just wont work for us.... generally when i plant a field with cain its one of more weedy fields. and with having resistant weed problems all the way around us i cant afford not to use some pree emerge herbicides so that cuts out planting any broad leave plants along with it
Love the overhead view and commentary
thanks
Nice looking crop Ted! I have a NH 313 with the flails. Love that mower.
nice
Ted, you did a great job with that. It truly was a jungle out there. I watched with great anticipation as you neared the hay bales. Fortunately your skills were far greater than most and you successfully completed the task.
helped a bit to have an eye in the sky...thanks though
Your 316 is a Beast, great video Bud👍
thanks for watching.... its been a great machine
I bet that was a load of fun cutting down! That's awesome seeing that shoot out. That's funny about not knowing where the bales are at, a good problem to have 👍
lol it was great... i think ill have to film more cutting of this stuff people seem to like it
@@tedkahler9738 still waiting! :D
That stuff is incredible! Holy cow man! I'm impressed the mower is able to process it it as well as it is
yea it is some crazy stuff
Sir thanks for showing wow the big tec of corn machine's have come a long way from 35 years s go. But yes sir thanks for showing us .
no problem
When I worked at the feedyard we always planted 100+ acres of sorghum every year. We would chop it put in the pit and feed it to the cattle. It does get tall. Taller than the tractor.
yep i have 100 ish acres we will chop and pile. Its not this tall though
I have very good sudangrass hybrid and sorghum silage hybrids that yield like this but only 10-15 lbs/acre seed rate. aerc.ca
How TALL can it grow?
What kind of fertilizer inputs?
Hahaha, at 7 minutes in brother you say "I sure wish I knew where those bales were at" right as you're going by them!!
i did... that was great
Wozer! Nice drone shots Mrs Kahler.
she says thanks....
Cracking crop Ted..that will make some excellent forage for the cows..best regards from England.
Thanks for comming along from across the pond...
That was cool watching the drone footage and seeing the mower push and then the gobs coming flying out. Can you imagine trying to cut that massive crop with out that good discbine. Was it a good year for cain or is it just a good variety. I baled some for a friend one year that was 6' tall and it laid for 5 weeks and we finally just baled it at 30% and he fed it before it warmed up in the spring. great vid
We have some pretty good dirt for this crop. I have some other stuff i plant but its shorter ... was planted later though but is way more leafy. So even thought how tall it is is impressive sometimes you have to step back and really look at the end result lol
@@tedkahler9738 Grandpa and Dad used to plant a lot of haygrazer... Grandpa liked to plant it super-thick because if you do it that way and cut it when it's about waist high, it's almost ALL LEAF and therefore VERY nutritious for the cows PLUS it's SO much easier to dry, which was important to him because back in the day all they had to cut it with was a Ford 501 sickle mower-- no conditioner! Stuff gets thick as hair on a dog's back but it SURE makes pretty hay!
Now for maximum tonnage, yeah you want to cut it right when it boots out for maximum quality at maximum tonnage-- after it heads out it starts turning to wood fairly quickly, so boot stage is really the ideal time to cut for max tonnage yields. Of course when it gets 8-10 feet tall there's a LOT of stalk in it and those stalks take a long time to dry, even if they're conditioned, but even more so if it's just straight cut with no conditioner. Planting it really thick of course increases the seed cost, BUT when you cut it at waist to maybe chest high and it's all leaf, the stems will only be about the size of a pencil or maybe a touch bigger maybe like your little finger, not big or bigger than your thumb like when you cut it at 8+ feet tall...
Later! OL J R :)
IT looks almost magical machine leving a beautiful ground with a windrow in the middle. Man it is tall
That's some tall crop, I like the edge on my right side as well.
yea... more natural feeling
I love that job wish son day iff have job for my plese contacme mail carias32snur@gmail.com
Planted that 2 years ago and I was able to get it dry even without a conditioning mower but it sure took about a week but made some really good hay and we got to cut it twice sure like that mower
I think this well have to lay a bit longer than a week
@@tedkahler9738 we cut ours at 6 ft but it's hotter here in tn but cows sure like it
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No one:
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Yes. The answer is yes.
Lmao
thanks everyone!
Lovin' the way you used the different cameras, nice work. Also your sound is fantastic. Best wishes from Cape Cod new sub.
thanks
So... You usually start the other way.. ya, me too, but I don't have a center pivot. Gotta think about what you're doing backwards!!
Had some Colorado 37 Oats and Timothy in some bottom ground many years ago, at the time, we pulled a JD 1327 discbine with an AC 7050, it was first gear!!! I had to stand on the fender to see over the top!!! Stalks were bigger than my thump!! It all went in small (16"x18") bales, they were about a foot apart... Fun.. LOL 😎
that would have been interesting
@@tedkahler9738 it was, I kept getting lost!!!! Couldn't see too many trees along the edge to follow.
We used to cut 8+ acres/hour with that, after four hours in a 16 acre field my dad came to find out what was going on... I probably only had about four acres down, he couldn't believe it was that tall!!! About 6' is all we had ever had before, or since..
Wow Ted that is wild we had a field when I was a kid that got about that tall my dad's swather wouldn't even cut it he had to get somebody else to cut it it was amazing and I think but I think the stems were a little bit thicker it was a wet wet year and it was a great year for all the crops. The stuff we planted was like a cane it was called Sudax the cows love the stuff took two weeks I think for it to dry though
yea it takes some time to dry ... and a pretty good machine to cut it as well
That's nice standing reminds me of the Johnson grass I bale.
kinda looks the same
Nice looking crop Ted. What variety was it and seeding rate. Also when was it planted.
Thanks
seeding rate was 20 pounds per acre.... and it was some sort of sorghum sudan cross... i just walked into the local seed place and said i need some cheep seed and this is what i walked out with. I never even looked at the tag. planted at the end of june
What style of grooves do the rollers have? Straight? "V"? Smooth roller?
The look like they're choking up pretty often.
its not chocking because of the rollers its actually getting slowed down by the front of the machine trying to push it down.... they are v style steel rollers
LOL I tought you were mowing corn ! :-D
A lot of people mistake Sudan as corn.
similar plant structure
lol. have some tonnage out there! is it regular sorghum Sudan grass? has it started to head out? vegetative growth has a LOT of nutrient value!! great energy and high TDN. here its used in a ration for steers with the cows just getting a little bit. are you using it for steers or cows?
IF i bale it it will be throwed into a tmr and be fed to everything. We feed everthing tmr when feeding EXCEPT when catttle are out on corn stalks and we want to supplement them some feed... then we will unroll bales. But everthing we feed gets tested and have a nutritionist make a balanced ration
lol reminds me of that one time I didn't mow my lawn for pretty much the whole year. Could almost hide in it. Didn't know lawn grass could grow six feet in a few months. Had to bush hog it.
haha
WOW ..THE DRONE VIEW IS REALLY COOL
thanks
wow that is cool.. This is a show my cows should watch.. if I had a tv for them lol
just put a tv out side in their pen and put it on my channel
nice i know some sunflowers do 12ft high but i prefer the 8fters for looks because chianti hybrid red ones kinda burgundy maroon but getting those to 12 ft would be sweet like to see these two tall crops side by side. thanks keep on plantin 💜👍
Yes I agree
"Do you know where you are? You're in the jungle, baby..."
"as welcome to the jungle" song plays in my head LOLOL
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Looks like elephant grass alright
Fill the land with smoke let the people know my wisdom.
You should do a video of all your equipment and what you have
naww... just watch enough videos and you can see what i have
Holy god , jungle jim central lol , now that’s tall grass , it’s nice to have drone to help
yea it was pretty cool
Awsome . What plant is this? Îs it Sudan grass?
Take my advice: rip pt cut from ground one average plant. Put it in the ground . Measure with tape East and without climbing the mower
LOL i could have but it was nice to see the tops
I was at Cedar Point in Sandusky. This video was a ride there.
nice nice
Tractor was started and that smoke that was when he started back shaft, and there was needed big power for start rolling mower?
The rollers weigh several hundred pounds each and take a lot of energy to get up to speed.
tractor is tuned some so it just smokes when you speed up the engine
@@tedkahler9738 oh, understand, thanks. I thinked it is because clutch must "start" pump or something :-)
Quiet tall... interesting machine... now I see how nails are made... auto steer...interesting... amazing how much work technology doing in the cab...
very tall
Damn....now that is a mower👌
seems to do the job
@@tedkahler9738 why do you have no mower in the Front?
tractor here very seldom have a hitch or pto on the front.
@@tedkahler9738 Ok, here in Germany, almost every one has an Front Mower
Jojo yea I wish they were more commen here but I have only seen 2 of them my whole life
Totally cool video good job
thanks
What variety is this and where did you find it? I'm going to put some haygrazer out next spring to see how it does for hay. Do you have any tips for this stuff?
do you use this for feeding or its just a wind barrier?
our cows ate it
That Sudan grass sure looks healthy. We use a lot of king grass
thanks
Holy crap!!! You will truly get that dry enough to bale it? Perfect world.....how many days?? Good stuff Ted!!!
14 days in perfect world but one thing about baling dry cain is you just dont worry about it for a while... might get rained on... snowed on... have baled some in march that tested the same quality as the stuff we baled in the fall... If it lays a month so be it... just cant get in a hurry
Looks like your cutting platform is plugging up by the Drone Video ?
It bunches some when. The stuff is that tall. I put lifters on and it helped that issue
Was it able to dry out and you run it through the Baylor my question is what you able to bail it up ?
I did bale some of it and some of it we left and the cows ate it off the ground
@@tedkahler9738 did it bail pretty good and about how many bills did you get out of it considering you left some for the cows
L & M adventure it bales decent but had to lay 3-4 weeks. Got around 6-8 dry ton an acre on what I baled
We just planted some of that see how it does did 35 acres of it but we planning just using corn head to harvest it
chopping id assume?
Yeah you bet
Are you growing these crops for your own dairy cows?
beef cows
Man that thing is really spitting compression artifacts out the back.
Like, the camera? I think youtube does that when they render the video before it gets posted.
@@f-j-Services It's a joke.
@@TheMetalButcher Oh lol! To me it seemed like the video has been compressed though in parts of it.
yep
What is this crop?looks amazing!
sorghum sudan
what is the best way tell is if you have nitrogen leaching.i was looking into it in my area that was my only worry.looking at millet for that reason.
younggunfarmer416 what do you mean nitrogen leaching?
i thought if you cut during a drought or just after a rain it could poison the cattle also after a frost?
nitrogen leaching would be nitrogen going into the ground but nitrate poisoning is what your pry thinking. First and for-most nitrate poisoning is not only common with this stuff but also common with oats rye barley millets as well as most other grasses. All should be checked and blended down if need be. And prussic acid is something i have never had problems with myself so im not very schooled in that may have to flipp over to google and search.
I was wondering that.The grown potential seems to be a lot higher on kane than millet.I was looking at feeding it direct to steers in the heat of summer.
@@tedkahler9738 Prussic acid CAN be a problem with sorghum sudan but more with Johnsongrass... they're all related (cousins) to each other anyway... The thing is, Prussic acid is hydrogen cyanide. When the grass is cut, it outgasses as the grass dries down. SO, if you're making it into DRY HAY then Prussic acid will simply outgas with the moisture as the hay dries down, and won't be a problem. Where you REALLY have to watch for Prussic acid is if your direct-grazing, green chop to feed immediately, or putting it up as silage or balage. Prussic acid can form when grass is injured by frost or after a dry spell when it gets some rain or water and suddenly greens up. Normally it will outgas from the plant naturally over about 5-7 days after the frost or greenup, then it SHOULD be safe to graze or chop. Always best to test though, because hydrogen cyanide is about the most poisonous substance known to man-- it can kill cattle within a couple minutes, usually on about their third bite if it's at high levels. Prussic acid poisoning results in a bright cherry red blood of the cattle affected from its reaction with the blood hemoglobin.
Nitrate poisoning is different in that it's more of a drought problem-- where water becomes the limiting factor to growth (drought conditions) in soils with high fertility (plenty of available nitrate fertilizer from heavily fertilized fields) the plants naturally gather nitrogen from the soil and concentrate it in the plant tissues, waiting sufficient water to put on a "growth spurt" where the stored nitrogen can be quickly used for growth and respiration of the grass. If sufficient water for this growth or respiration never comes, the nitrates simply remain concentrated and stored in the plant tissue. When it is cut or chopped, it remains in the plant regardless of whether its field-cured for dry hay, or chopped for green chop or silage, and it is not removed by fermentation or curing. Cattle ingesting excessive levels of nitrate get nitrate poisoning, where the animal's blood will basically look like chocolate milk-- it'll be a dark brown color instead of the normal "blood red" as the nitrates lock up the ability of the blood hemoglobin to absorb and carry oxygen, thus the animal asphyxiates and dies. The only solution for dealing with high nitrate forages is TESTING the nitrate levels and then DILUTION by mixing high-nitrate forages into blended rations that "thin the nitrates out" by mixing it with known LOW-nitrate level forage or fodder so animals cannot consume enough to absorb dangerous amounts of nitrate into the blood. Our extension services around here frequently warn farmers who suffer crop failures due to drought in corn and grain sorghum which is typically heavily fertilized for grain production, if they plan to harvest droughted-out corn or grain sorghum for hay (which is typically in short supply in droughty seasons and thus in high demand and a lucrative way to recoup crop losses) to be sure and have nitrate levels tested before feeding to ensure livestock aren't poisoned by nitrates. Generally speaking, if the field has NOT had a heavy application of fertilizer made on it (as in the amount you'd apply for a typical grain crop yield goal) then nitrates should NOT build to dangerous levels, but even in forage sorghum (sorghum/sudan) if the field is fertilized for maximum tonnage of hay or silage it SHOULD be tested in drought conditions...
Later! OL J R :)
Thick is an understatement!!! The cutter was gettin clogged up in spots, but unclogging itself too.
yea i seen that ... i think its just getting pushed ahead of the hood then goes through in wads but not really sure
I was waiting for someone to say that. I believe you can't see the back of the mower from where you're sitting in the tractor because of how tall the crop in fact you're were telling us about it clogging as it was clogging again, lol. I think that tractor has enough horsepower and that's a nice enough mower that it was taking care of it itself. You can also see the crop being pushed by the mower in the front of it. That is one heck of a good yield for that crop I think you were very smart for planting it. Nice set up 👌 too. Thanks for sharing!
Damn that mower really throws the hay back there compared to our Deere
I have noticed that some... The new Holland doesn't run a top shield but when its windy i adjust it to it doesnt throw it that high cause the wind can cause problems but if feel it fluffs the windrow more when its flying
Isnt this a roller conditioner instead of a finger conditioner
Valtra 6400 yess it is a roller conditioner
That's what I really was noticing too! Holy shit it's throwing it way back there!! Cutting really clean too for the amount of material going thru it.
We plant that a lot and if you leave it it’ll get even taller. we chop it and put it in egg bakes. Makes great feed for Cow. Does not need a lot of rain.
i have planted this for quite a while. Generally chop it but it will make some great feed in a round bale too...
It looks sooo good
thanks
If you ever need someone to help harvest, that looks like it would be fun.
harvest is always long and stressful. Too much to do not enough time
Well it's not necessarily fun
The view was cool bro! Great Vid! New Subscriber!
thanks
Did you ever get the protein checked on that stuff. That might work pretty good for me here on the farm for the cattle. Thanks for the video have a great evening
we test all the feed that is fed at our farm/ranch i prefer not to just piss into the wind i like to know my animals are getting exactly what they need for nutrition
That's your M.O. Elm, pissing in the wind and pissing off fellow farmers. And I guess crying and complaining and claiming to be a victim. I could add more but I'll be nice this morning.
@@jrice1091 butt hurt is back AGIAN lol
Alta Seed is a good one. King Fisher has some called Sugar Pro 55. I planted it this year vs. another variety that I had planted last year. It did good. Some chop it I did baleage with mine last year I tried to dry it this year and basically ruined my crop from all the rain. Luckily it was cut early enough to make second cut on it. Will go into baleage for sure this time.
Ted Kahler so then what is the protein level maybe somebody on here wants to plant some to feed to their cattle.
And what monitor do you have in the tractor??
i think the motitor is the gps (auto steer)
you can make a drinking game out of this. everytime he sais "jungle" you have to drink a shot XD
LOL sure
But uhmmm
Reckon I only heard it twice.. that's a quite night on it.
500 ml shots will do the job anyways XD
10:30 , I hate it when that happens . 🙂
A drone screen inside the tractor might be an idea . Set the drone on follow for the first round . 🤷🏽♂️
Yea maybe……
What is the reason for leaving such a narrow strip ? Just figured you have a reason and was curious what it is. And what is this grass called? Sorghum? Or is haygrazer the real name or is that like a generic term? Good video and thanks
Joshua Smith forage sorghum is real name. Was experimenting with narrow strip in the middle of a corn field to help with the nutrient needs of our cattle when they are grazing the corn stalks in the winter
@@tedkahler9738 ohh ok thanks. Yeah I figured you had a reason for it. Makes sense. Thanks for replying
how many tons per acre or how many big round bales per acre?
pry 3-6 ton
That will make a pile of cow feed . When did you plant it?
end of june
Such a satisfying video
Thanks
Why not put the havester behind the tractor insteed of leaving a swath there next to the corn.
Are you going to go back for it????
it wouldn't pick up what was ran over
Thats the same as sorgum ya? I worked on a farm in New Zealand and we grew that as a trial. It was too wet when it was ready for cows so we had to strip graze it....was funny watching the cows run into it and disappearing😂 just see the crop shaking😂 it was shit for milking off. In my experience and from what i think of it, it would make good silage for dry cows or part of a milking mix would be ok too i gues...cool video. Interesting how ye grow crops in narrow strips like that.
Normally dont farm in small strips but this was intend for the cows just to graze after i cut it when grazing the corn stubble in the winter months Trying to spend less on feed but still provide enough nutrients to cows when its cold out
Im more of a john deere fan but that cheech at the beginning was hot
HAHAH
Una segadora de ese estilo la tuve yo hace unos 21 años, y puedo asegurar que no está haciendo un buen trabajo. La mía era una kuhn alterna 500, vamos fue el propotipo de esa serie de máquinas.
Por que no esta haciendo buen trabajo???
english? but it seems to be doing a great job for me/
im doing a fine job as well as the mower!
wat do u do to add the voice over with the drone
I was recording the in cab footage with some camera glasses call "horrizon ivue pro"s i put the two clips together pulled the audio from the cam glasses then switched the video from the drone to the cam glasses. The cam glasses have the audio on that video
Is that white pearl or sugar graze
sugar graze
You should have stack them bails like Pyramid 👍 then cut a trail or maze and charge people to see it 😁 They say if you stack something like a pyramid it cures better and last longer. You better feed them out 👍
yea pry should have i coulda been rich over that deal
Do a video on your GPS set up on your magnum
i could some time
We used to plant sudan for silage when we had a dairy farm back many years ago when I was a teen. It was hell to cut after a wind storm. They didn’t make machinery like you’re using back them.
yea things has changed alot even in just a few years!
hello, what did you do here. Sorry my english it s weak.I from Poland
Cutting sorghum sudan grass for cattle feed
Why do you leave the bails in the field and not move them to the farm?
The bales weather fine.... and i dont want to have several thousand bales in one spot at the same time.... seems like a good way to loose all your hay if a fire breaks out!
Woow, nice video !!
thanks
Rollers or flail?
floodedcar123 steel rollers
u in a 72 or a 71 series?
7220 magnum thanks for the comment
well that was quick! What do you think about the 89 series?
I think all of the boxcar magnums are pretty good tractors. Basically the same tractor with some other more comfort features . I think when they first went to the mx series they had some electoral probs but now there sorted out in the newer magnums
what tractors is that he's driving?
looks like a case or new holland/ Fiat
@@whyareyouherelol24 is a case
New holland are you fucking stupid?
its a 7220 magnum
What's the use of this, never seen anything like this before
cows will eat it
Me too, I never saw this before.
U will eat it too?
damn thats tall :) wish my hay was like that...lol :)
Would you be able to get it to dry thought ?
that would be slow going....lol
Un very good job.
thanks
Have you considered growing biomass sorghum instead of this corn? They grow way bigger
that is a forage sorghum never heard of biomass type
@@tedkahler9738 There are different types of sorghum. One is for grain (most grown), there is one which is for syrup and one which is biomass sorghum, the biggest one grows over 4 m www.google.com/search?q=biomass+sorghum&rlz=1C1SQJL_enAU786AU786&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic1Lzc6sPjAhXn7nMBHV-1AFIQ_AUIESgB&biw=1366&bih=657
And remember sorghum is a drought tolerant C4 plant.
Ted I'll be in SF Monday night
how was your trip?
front mount?
no
@@tedkahler9738 need one
46Rambo no There are no tractors here with front hitches
A friend of mine has silage it and swath grazes. He told me the the cows were crazy for it. Your cane looks very good
This stuff isnt as sweet tasting as some of the kinds... but i think it will be good feed either way it ends up
We are going so far to
Pretty cool.
thanks
is that sudex or sudan hay?
It’s sourgum Sudan. I believe sudex is similar or same. Just a different brand
@@tedkahler9738 I know it is a hybrid Sudan grass, I just do not know what it is was other component which made it sudex. I do remember my uncle baled it in the 70's and I helped him harvest it many times before I joined the Navy.
@@skyhawksailor8736 thanks for watching commenting and even more thankful for your service. Thank you
@@tedkahler9738 On behalf of my family I want to thank you for recognizing the sacrifice a Military family does for our country.
What kind of cane is that?
sorghum Sudan cross just a generic plain ole stuff
What is the genus of this herb
it grows good
What kind of grass is this?
sudan
Big field of corn looks like money to me lol
yep yep
You should invest in a front mower :-/
No front pto's here as well as no front 3 points
That's when you hook one up to the back and drive backwards...
The BALES! The BALES! They are RIGHT BESIDE YOU! lol
LOL YEP
What strain was this
it was channel brand
Why arent you using front cutters on the tractor ? Instead of running the grass over ?
most of the tractors in the usa do not have front hitches or pto's so there few and far between here...
ohh mG how many miles ???
this field is 1/2 mile long if that is what you were asking
omg this is my dream on the rigth hands.
yeah i asking about the field so i see that you drive and drive and drive and i dream and dream
God bless you
We have a 1383 Massey Ferguson for a weather and we can run almost 6 miles an hour in 14 foot tall cane on a 7130 magnum
thats nice
This is another irrelevant comment but, I am really sure if you made a "cocktail" of cane(sudex) sunnehemp and tall sunflowers you would get a very very nutritious feed for cows (it might even need some dumbing down since sunnhemp in good fields can be almost 35%protein)
inter planting things in our cain just wont work for us.... generally when i plant a field with cain its one of more weedy fields. and with having resistant weed problems all the way around us i cant afford not to use some pree emerge herbicides so that cuts out planting any broad leave plants along with it
awesome, wow
well thanks
What are you tryong to do???
Cut some hay
How many cows you feed?
Enough to keep us busy... i think if you take the time to watch some of my other videos you will understand and get a good picture of what is going on