"Lock in Arrow Setup and Pre-Season Checklist" MFJJ x Tim Connor (ep 63)
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- MFJJ and Tim Connor sit down and chat about many things archery including: MFJJ steps for dialing in your arrows, potential broadhead choices, and other random archery off shoots. #archery #podcast
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KSI is a pressure measurement PSI (pounds per square inch) KSI( Killapounds aka 1,000 pounds per square inch) they are material properties just like the rockwell hardness scale, ksi is used for calculating deformation, deflection, column buckling, elongation etc normally this variable is noted as G and converted into PSI when calculating. Titanium is great for everything you are saying but doesn't make a good metal for blades, this is where what Tim was talking about with rockwell hardness, steel hardens better and will have better edge retention when you start looking into the martensites and crystalline structure of the steel itself. There is a lot there to go into.... Keep up the great podcasts!
Josh and Tim talk metallurgy, material science, and strength of materials. Should be the next podcast.
Good info, thanks G!
You should be able to talk about politics w/o people getting triggered. Don't make it the whole pod obviously. but I enjoy hearing your guy's takes on the world outside of archery sometimes.
oh yeah, we can't help it sometimes
Even though Josh and Tim are right the country was better before everyone started talking about politics
39:35 This was me and many others a few years ago. Channels like this have helped immensely, especially someone like me with no real hunting mentors.
You guy are awesome keep killing the podcast and videos !!! Mfjj i just tied my first peep in after watching your video it came out damn good for a first attempt …
I just bought two packs off of you and an arrow saw. Thank you!
appreciate you
Josh and Tim ‘24! We want a 3D course in the white house!
put that on the ballot
Sasquatch in the rose garden
I look forward to coming home from work on Mondays evenings to watch you guys on UA-cam.
I really enjoy the banter and the knowledge I get.
Keep up the good work
Still really enjoy your Vids. Thank you for sharing your information and experiences!!!
Love your podcast love the show and all the knowledge. Love the bow builds and the specs you guys go through.
Have you ever tried afflictor broadheads? I'm giving the k2 a try this year.
I do the same for my arrows, I have victory rip tko in sports and elites, I spine them cut off the wonkiest end, and I'll spin test the points/broadheads with insert and turn them till they spin the straightest, recently got the rip as the tko in my area Australia have gone up $85 a doz, and they come with a much better insert got them in the sports as well, spin test and no issues shooting out to 110m
I just re-confirmed broadheads earlier today, good chat.
This year I built a 424 grain arrow setup. RIP TKO, 30gr podium insert, 125 iron will sb. Haven't settled on vanes yet. Testing AAE hybrid hp's and super sabre mini's. Getting 296fps. Thank you for all the info/instruction!
I agree with Tim. Most East coast guys don't pay any attention to the broad head tune because of the shot distance.
Great chat boys, don't get to sit down and listen as much lately but always entertaining when I do!! Hope to see some of you guys next year at an East Coast TAC!!
All topics are great. Thanks for another great podcast
I'm building arrows for the range while listening/watching you two! Awesome stuff Bruddahs!
Keep it up guys. Love these podcasts!!
Awesome pod, hope you guys have some killer hunts lined up
I always finish tinkering by this time. Just tuned up with the new arrows and poundage. Just need to make a sight tape and we are ready to roll boys. Get those reps in
I learned how to make an arrow fly correct from my recurve. Draw weight, 3-4 Feathers, vanes, point weight, arrow length, spine & so on. The 35 years of instinctive recurve shooting at deer from 5 yards to groundhogs at 80 yards to rabbits at all yardages it taught me by feel what makes an arrow fly correctly. I got lucky once and killed a groundhog at 83 yards with a recurve and a 4 fletch 2219 with 200 grain Rothaar Snuffer. Wonder what that hold over was? 15’ft? But that 4 fletch 2219 with that set up flew perfectly. Problem is you could smoke a cigarette before it reached that groundhog at 83yds.
Good stuff fellas. Time to slay! Let's go!
I use the Iron Will single bevel 135 grain Snyder core (no insert), 15 grain Titanium collar, Black Eagle 300 spine X-Impact, 4 SK 2.0 vanes, and a Halo nock at 430 grains. Elk killer! This year I will shoot my Lift 33 at 30 inch draw and 66 pounds (maxed out 65# mods). Launches at 286 fps. Perfect combo for me.
BTW, went with 4 SK 2.0 for the extreme light weight (4 lighter than 3 vanes of almost anything out there) to ensure the lower profile tunes with broadheads, and they do to 80 yards with ease. Never thought I would shoot a 4-vane arrow, but keep an open mind…
I have been uses Ullmers edge and sevre since the start they are absolutely the best mech. on the market no questions
I totally nerd out on building my arrows, not because I think it will make a massive difference in MY accuracy, but because I’m an engineer…nuff said…
I’ve been doing a similar process as you described for years, also matching components with arrows to reduce my deviation in weight arrow to arrow. However, even with up to about a 5 grain weight difference, I don’t see any difference in accuracy until distances beyond 80 yards, and even then, not a huge difference.
Thank you for encouraging your audience to nerd out, build their own, and self-maintain their equipment! Better archery through better knowledge of the ENTIRE system.
This checklist will come in handy, first bow hunting season for me this year in Wisconsin.
Love the content!
I bought a Darton consequence from josh. I love it I have a 26" draw length and the 29.5 ATA, for me, is fine.
Podcast Topic Request:
I'm not a Lift owner, but I've been seeing PILES of people complain about split limbs. I don't know if they're just incorrectly shimming/tuning their bow, if it's a manuf. QC issue, or if it's a loud minority (statistically insignificant % of units), but I see it often, as well as a crapload of Lifts being put up for resale.
Curious about what you've seen in the shop, and/or what you've heard from others.
Just had a fantastic idea for you guys! Throw a green screen inside the door of the woodstove whenever it’s summertime and use green screen technology for the fire! That would be awesome.
Tim, you made a comment about not hearing people shoot light arrows with fixed blade I think. I’ll see if I can test that this year. I’ve built my arrows to 409gr with 17% FOC (Black Eagle X-Impact, 26” C to C, 165gr up front) and will have both SEVR 2.0 and Iron Will SB w/bleeders in my quiver. Hoping to have similar flight. Long shot will use Iron Will, sub 50 will get SEVR.
do you worry about the 3 vanes and 3 blades on a broadhead being on the same plane? Also just wanted to give you guys a shout out. I learn something new almost every video or podcast. I have only had the opportunity to stop into Spokane Valley Archery just once. Being a left-handed shooter, I was so impressed with your inventory especially left-hand equipment. The one time I stopped in MFJJ was there I had asked a question and he stopped what he was doing and talked to me. Thank you that really impressed me. I support 100 % of everything you do.
Dartons consequence 2 will have a performance mod, different riser and the hamskea cor mount
Yesterday was Californias a zone archery opener
Wassup guys. Awesome conversation today. I've been shooting Stinger Buzzcut broadheads the last couple of years, but was thinking of switching to a single bevel this year. I'm torn between the Iron Will 125's or the VPA Omega's. I'm curious what your choice would be. I'm mainly a whitetail hunter from a tree stand, so I have shorter shots. I'm pulling 60lbs at a 29in draw with 27in Victory RIP arrows. Keep up with the awesome shows. They're always a must watch. Because I'm bound to learn a thing or 3.
Fingers crossed you boys have a lighted nock video on deck.
I'm using rip xv, grim reaper hybrids, and Sirius evolution 3 blades possibly annihilator katanas if they come in time and tune..
the beast is just that, and yes they fly just like your field tips at least out to 80 yards for me.
Order my Lift back in March and still waiting but understand demand and the shops out here are not even close to yours. Just couldn't afford to fly to Spokane and a bow lol
Hi, I the founder of Nomad Broadheads. RockWell hardness is for heat treatment such as steel hardening (oven Cooking). The reason why so many broadheads try to not exceed 61 Rockwell, much like titanium, it may be strong, but brittle, show can chip and break on impact. A slightly softer Rockwell rate can absorb more impact and keep its edge retention. Any steel that is not heat treated would be raw and too soft, It would just fold on impact and the edge retention would not be optimal. Aluminum is soft is a soft and light metal. There is an incredible amount to consider to broadhead design and fit for purpose use. High carbon will also give the steel a better edge retention and strength over stainless steel, but sacrifice possible rusting. Your always juggling and balancing the pros and cons. There is also Steel toughness in play.
Your Rockwell Rating increased in sub zero temperatures, so you have to allow for colder climates.
You can 3D print in steel, anything 3D printed would be too brittle and explode on impact. you may be able to have a a thread screw into a larger head, but your going to have a brittle joint. But you can only do so much in the weight category of 100g, 125g, 150 etc.
In the last 4 yearsI have been designing one of the most accurate broadheads for long range. My background is in engineering design and i have been an active shooter for a decade. The broadheads unique design gives it a gyroscopic like flight stability.
Feel free to check out nomadbroadheads.com.
Happy to send you a sample to see what you think.
Can you shoot any kind of offset through a whisker biscuit without significant vein damage? And still get some broadhead stabilization?
Do you have anything on arrow setup for lower poundage hunting, my kids and I are newer to archery and hunting and want to set them up for success, thanks for all the great info.
I think a thorn broadhead has a small profile, it is a little long but it should fly great. That said I will probably take the grim reaper 1 3/8” mechanical or the new Sevr on my mtn goat hunt.
Is it possible for you guys to address this mathews lift is a flop of a bow/ its a bow full with issues? Daily limb splinters. Failed design etc etc?
Since its getting to be a big topic now
I ordered a custom lift for 5 months now & I’m skeptical on it
Carbon Express Maxima Reds are one cut ends kinda…. The stiffness changes down the shaft.
I sometimes enjoy laptop fires too
Good pod guys. I live in Oregon, what tag did that guy draw?
Quick question I seem to gain yardage at longer range im on at 90 to 120 or so but stepped back to 145 had to shoot it at 138 on my tape
MFJJ, Would love to see an overview and short term thoughts on the CBE trek pro micro 3 V before i purchase one from you if in stock please, Same on ripcord ratchet if possible. i know durability would be tough to tell. But they’re going up in price since they dropped. I know at first they had some issues with impact varying if you locked down one of the knobs too tight, either the windage or elevation, cant remember which
Tim here. I ran that Cbe last year. One year through the field did great.
@@JoshandTim thanks brother! Good to hear….did you have any of those issues people were saying with changing impact if knobs were locked down too tight? Also ive watched all your stuff and that vid about the sight but was just looking for more of a longer term review. Thanks!
@@Orr_s I Own the trek 3 pin and I haven’t experienced impact variations and I would suspect if there was it would be the windage but once you’re sighted I leave mine locked. A negative I’ve noticed is the middle fixed pin doesn’t like to lineup with the two adjustable pins vertically, I would recommend the two pin version as long as both pins adjust the same way and set them for 30 and 50
@@MrHunter2784 yeah ive seen couple other vids come out very recently and some feedback in the comments is great and some people dont like the sight at all and had some quirky issues. Thanks for the feedback!
I'm going to CO TAC this weekend but when I get home it's broadhead time
I just started shooting. And I like your light arrow Theory . How do you get under four hundred gains with a thirty inch arrow with a third inch draw? Please help.
Josh can you compare high end fixed three blade broadheads. Thinking Bishop, VPA and the like.
Easton's 6.5 are usually really cheap also
Cracking up at the politics and the reaction to the debate 😂
I am dying to get a justification to go to an expensive arrow but I haven’t seen one yet.
Definitely go to Mexico for a Mulley
How many packs of BH's to spin check on your arrows so you get 6 true ones?
What fixed blade did mfjj reference kudu or kayuga? Can’t find that tiny blurp
I shoot the Easton 6.5 Hunters and I shoot those things out to 132 yards and still shoot damn good.
Lets go...you should do a podcast with elkaholics.😉 They are from washington as well
oh very cool!
You guys should try get Randy Newberg on !!!
I'm on your side with that debate. I seen that he wasn't all there before he was even put into presidency
I want more of Josh ranting on politics! haha
You can 3D print broadheads. There are carbon fiber and metal 3D printers.
Tim giving off serious Ron Jeremy vibes
430 total grain arrows with vpa omegas is what ill be slinging
MFJJ FOR PRESIDENT!!!
How in the HELL yall in front of a fire!!! Like 113° here in Okieland USA..lol
Uh… iPad fire
Maybe Kenny Powers will shoot a bow riding on his jet ski.
KSI - Kilo pounds per square inch 🎉😂 in fitness it’s knowledge strength integrity haha but I wouldn’t mind a measurement for crush, strength, integrity but it couldn’t be ksi mfjj because crush isn’t spelt with a K hahaha we love ya man!!!
“We’re not going to talk politics “ but we are going to talk politics 😂
need a shirt for that
I am of no help because i am an addict!
Do a video on what type of target to shoot your broadheads into and broadhead sharpening.
Chris Bee made a video a couple years ago testing the accuracy of mechanical heads and they still need to be tuned. “Field point accuracy” is a myth. Most people probably never shoot their broadheads until it’s at an animal
Josh doesn't want a review from me.
I'd be interested to see Bowmar on here. It could be a good chance to give him a fair shake and help unite the archery community rather than divide it.
Bowmar gets hate because he's a poacher, and douche who has burned down people's property, started multiple wildfires, and has had his hunting rights removed for violating game laws.
In addition to causing the controversy that caused a hunting season to be shut down, and killing animals that they didn't want.
Who TF cares about your golf handicap! 😂
30:40 bc he does dumb stuff. And says dumb stuff. Dude burned his truck up and his neighbors property…. He’s falsified stuff with his protein drink. Dude just seems shady AF. 🤷🏻♂️
The hate the bowmar’s still get is laughable, and honestly incel like activities. They paid their 6 figure fine, time to move on.
My only issue with Josh Bowmar is he said on the HUNTR podcast that you can’t tune a fixed BH well enough to shoot it accurately at long distances like you can with mechanicals IE sevr, swhackers, and their beast BH. It’s just not true, even my average shooting ass can get my TOTA XLs to group with my FIeld points at 60 yds (all I practice to since I’m in the northeast, and my avg shot on whitetail is less than 25 yds).
Talk politics, doesn’t bother me!
Appreciate the videos guys! I have a question maybe Tim or Josh can answer. Single bevel broadheads such as the magnus single bevel is setup to spin right. So you will need right helical on the fletchings? Asking for my recurve.