Assassin's Creed Shadows - My Thoughts on the Trailer and Controversy
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Here are my thoughts on the new trailer for Assassins Creed Shadows. Discussing both the history and controversy.
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Please read this if you have any questions on Yasuke being considered a samurai. www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1css0ye/was_yasuke_a_samurai/
While I'm not really saying that the historian is wrong or anything, I must point out Reddit is a VERY biased site that does a lot of censoring.
@TheShogunate
Ah yes. Your source is a hotbed for radical leftists, pro communists, antifa, and people who are pushing globalist agendas. Disappointed. Been subbed for years. Respected you. Dropped.
If theyre trying to make Iga the "assassins" home base, they shouldve just used Hanzo as the main character, easy money.
Althpugh ur statement is trrue they are biased..
Yeah.. The thing is all accounts about Yasuke mostly came from Luis Frois. A missionary from portugueae
Although frois quite rgood for neuttality as outsiderfrom Japanese political fsction, first account, but he is also known for his inaccuracies
As example, he describes the Tokugawa escape from Honnoji inaccurately Since he also include a person who are born about 20 years after Honnoji
Even if you werent bothered by yasuke. That 130$ price tag is wild. Crazier is paying 60$ for an incomplete game. Like outlaws star wars. Where you need to pay 100$+ for the full game. Or youll have chunks missing.
Ubisoft wants to force their subscription service.
Expect even more absurd pricing if this tactic works.
This is why I wait till AFTER the game comes out. All companies sell is the hype only to deliver mediocre products.
typical triple A games man, they cost hudreds and literally unplayable later
Me and my cousin actually have convwrsation about this 130 USD bundle... Not to mention about the annual service payment..
We came to conclusion that Ubisoft seems wanna sell this culture ear shit to mask their controverslal business model
Thats the true question
Why should story driven game like Ass creed shoulf have subscription?
Thing is sus af
Remember, the best thing about Ubisoft games are the trailers.
Remember that one that had the song iron was the best I’ve ever seen.
You are a bit harsh, they usually build very beautiful open worlds. The problem are gameplay and scenario.
@uleertel the open worlds are anything but beautiful and the gameplay and art style of the games are also bad if they made the gameplay better and changed the engine it would be better also if they'd stop being money grabbers and listen to the fans wich it seems they've been doing more recently but everything about this new game seems to be like valhalla and others.
@@uleertelalso people have every right to be sceptical after all the years of bar games.
@@Aide473 I suppose it's a matter of taste but it's generally recognized that Valhalla or even Avatar are beautiful games but have a lot of issues in other areas.
"What is the game about?"
"Ah, it's just an assassin's creed game, this time set in [region name]"
The series started as a really interesting concept, but it slowly become tiring with many recent installments having barely any fresh new things to experience. Basically, the fast food of videogames.
Exactly, the narrative, the characters, the world. Either feels empty or the same. I hope they reboot the franchise or drop it to create a new game in different times in history without the AC IP
Lol Just no. It’s NOT THE “fAsT fOoD oF vIdEo gAmEs” AT ALL as Assassin’s Creed is STILL highly unique from having all of these compelling storylines happening all around the world and how they connect with one another from the ongoing secret wars in history between the assassins and the Templars here. That simple! The whole appeal of the series is to have these assassins in different parts in history where you play as that’s the draw of the series to begin, secret assassin wars taking places in history as that’s what makes the franchise so good. And to say that it’s “ah it’s just an assassin’s creed game, this time set in [region name]” is 100% dishonest on what the series is even about, that simple!
The series STILL IS an interesting concept and it’s a matter of how well executed all of these games ARE as all that really centrally matters is the storylines in these games and how compelling they can be.
@@fin9281 The guys at Ubisoft can create a new Ubisoft game set somewhere in history but what’s being said right here doesn’t make any sense at all as while not ALL the assassin’s creed games have been the best, it STILL IS a compelling storyline happening of a secret war occurring in history between both the assassins and Templars and that’s ALWAY super compelling and gripping to see when done right. Just stop with your nonsense.
“The narrative, the characters, and the world” does NOT “feels empty or the same” at all here as along as it’s done right as ALL of the world in these games feel MASSIVELY different from how diverse it all is and portrayed in its setting when you play through these games. And FAR from “emPtY” in the slightest as it’s usually brimming with context here to play through, for better or for worse in some occasions.
It’s fine for the games to be overall similar in gameplay AS LONG as the stories are well done and well executed and that’s what everyone is hoping for this new game and I am as well!
@@fin9281 Fair point, assassin's creed as a series does have a really interesting concept.
The thing is fast food is not equal to bad. Fast food play safe. They play safe. They cater into peoples that sees these games as their 'comfort zone'. It is more prominent when you look at individual installments and all of the missed opportunities.
AC2 has interesting, well fleshed out characters, but AC3 (the game about native american in the civil war but fell flat) is fine I guess, it has several. AC4 is INSANE, but Rogue (the game you play as templar but fell flat) doesn't feel the same. Origins was refreshing, but Odyssey (the game where you play as a spartan but fell flat) doesn't hit has hard. and several more.
As a consumer, I wish the games that I play stick inside my brain even after the credits roll. Assassins creed failed at that multiple times where it COULD HAVE BEEN if they hadn't play safe. It's frustrating and the charm was basically lost.
[hey at least the bar is set very low for AC Shadows, if they managed to not impress by their premise i don't even have any comments]
@@Gadget-Walkmen Fair point, Assassins Creed as a concept is really interesting and will be known for many generations of games in the future, but your explanation proves my statements actually.
Mind you, fast food does not equal to bad. Fast food play safe. They are predictable. They cater specifically into the people who sees the series as 'comfort zones'. Yes, individual installments each has their unique premise, but the game resist going out of their formula, multiple times. Many stories just fell flat where IT COULD HAVE BEEN GOOD if they hadn't play safe. It is frustrating and they basically has lost their charms.
Why is AC4 so beloved but Rogue was meh despite having equally interesting premise (play as ex assassins templars)? Because it felt like inferior AC4. Why is Origins so refreshing but Odyssey and Valhalla doesn't hit as hard? Because it felt like Origins again but you get to play as a spartan/viking in their respective era. Why was Ghost of Tsushima deemed 'a perfected assassins creed game' while not having any Assassin/Templar narrative? Because it carries the series' soul while combining that with their own things really well.
I hope I got my points straight. I wish the series does not go the way it did, but now recent games doesn't even felt like it was made with the player in mind. It is sad, really.
[Hey at least the bar set for Shadows is extremely low, if they failed to deliver by their premises I don't even have any more comments]
I'm Japanese. Before Edo era, only upper class bushi was called Samurai. Bushi and Samurai are two different words in Japanese but in English they are translated as samurai. So this is the problem of the Wikipedia war.
So, based on ur perspective
Does Yasuke a Samurai?
Or just a servant?
@TotilaTheGoth 💀
@@arielquelmeHow about Yasuke was low rank bushi but never samurai.
U tell me.. U are the one who said before Edo period.. Someone like Yasuke was never considered a samurai
@@arielquelmeyeah Japanese society was rigid but during sengoku period it was chaothic and a lot of people jumping classes
I think Yasuke would be honoured to know people are fighting wars over him 😂
🤣
Yasuke would be honored to know people think he did more in Japanese history than what actually happened.
@@nosananolife8669 That goes for a lot of historical figures
He would probably be pissed off that his image is being used to push woke agenda and create history for black people😂all his idols he looked up to the people who trained him the people before him of that culture don’t get a game about them or Netflix series because they’re not right to push a “diverse and inclusive” game/image?
What about musashi? No one would have been mad😂
@@jamesjohno1180 Firstly, Yasuke was a slave of the Europeans. So he probably would be happy to see the desendants of Europeans in America making a fool out of themselves. Secondly, Musashi? Really? Do you have any idea how many films, dramas, manga, animes and games have been made by the Japanese about Musashi Miyamoto? Its a lot, so your point saying Musashi does not get enough adaptation as Yasuke makes no sense. Thirdly, Musashi was born long after Yasuke’s time, so Yasuke would never have looked up to Musashi.
What bothers me more than anything is that it is being developed by Ubisoft. Their terrible business practices and monetization that favor pay to win even in single player games should be a deal killer for a lot of people.
I know we can’t take much stock in a cgi trailer, (gameplay should always be king) however I wanted to say thank you for sharing your thoughts on it regardless:)
Your thoughts and opinions were the only ones I cared about in regard to this situation. I appreciate your insight as always sensei!
The most disturbing thing to come from this game's announcement has been the knowledge that there are still people out there who care enough about anything Ubisoft does to give them money or attention.
Yasuke would have to kill everyone around his target. He's the only black samurai in the whole region so he can't have any witness report his description back to his enemies. I mean traveling to his target will make guards and town people take notice.
I love getting to play as Yasuke, but this is my big question as well. He can't just remove wanted posters across town lol.
He’s not going to be an assassin though. He’s a brute and likely a double agent working as a Templar but actually loyal to the assassins. He works from the inside and the woman is the assassin
@@mookiestewart3776 What would be sick is for Yasuke to come to the realization that those he serve are actually Templars. As you said, he'd be a double agent. That does sound great.
I truly do wonder how this will work out gameplay-wise.
@@mookiestewart3776 He would be still the most noticeable person in the whole region even if not everyone knows his name. He still have to be careful otherwise Nobunaga's allies might be wondering why their ally's thug is killing their friends.
And his Templar handlers would certainly notice or got wind of their hulking giant black agent is rather friendly with the only survivor from the ninja village they destroyed.
If this game had come out years ago, I might have thought about getting the game. For me, Yasuke’s presence as a protagonist is a draw, mixing up the usual tropes.
After years of Ubisoft’s corporate practices and at the likely price points we are talking about? I guess I might get it on a sale after the whole game is out. (AKA, base game with DLC or Season pass or whatever they call it anymore)
As a fan of the series, that is the best way to go because by then all the bugs will be fixed, you can get the whole story in one shot, and you don't have to listen to the hardcore gamer crowd bitch.
Okay that doesn't make any damn sense. This guy literally provided proof that he was a samurai. That he was real... And he was actually there in Japan serving under nobunaga... Oh my God . Its like talking to a brick wall.. you don't have to play the game. But you can't make a statement like that after finding out this information. Now as Ubisoft Greedy practices... That's where I draw the line.. has nothing to do with the character.. he doesn't even make any sense to make it about the character for you to draw the line...
@@TreyeParker I think you misunderstood what I just said. When I said including Yasuke was a draw, that means it make me want to play the game more, not less. I already knew he existed. The thing that kills the game for me is not his presence or even Naoe’s depiction, but a lack of trust in Ubisoft’s corporate practices.
I think Yasuke is a unique character, both because of his background and for being in the center of a lot of major events. He rubbed shoulders with all the future leaders of including Hideyoshi and Ieyasu. So a game with him at the center could be very good (if done well).
Game done well or Ubisoft. Choose one.
I wouldn't say rubbed shoulders with it's more like a rare animal they found interesting.
@@seniorsterling1064They did find him interesting, but Nobunaga also likely made him Hatamoto and that's not just " a rare animal" at that point he was high rank as well. He was definitley one of his sword bearers. That's nothing to sneeze at.
@@KarelianKhan Black Flag was good. Brotherhood also. There's always hope
@@ThatTimeWhen. Don't bother explaining that to him . People with those types of comments , are obviously trying too troll or be dicks . They know nothing about the depth of Japanese politics back then , and the many (mind) games they played 😅.
And sure plenty people back then would most likely seen him as a animal back then 😅 ,but Odo Nobunaga knew that and also used that against his enemies .
That is one of the reasons he made him Vassal
My problems can be summed up with your comments from 2:00 to 2:30. I have other problems with how they run the series, and frankly this open world thing should have been its own project seperate from AssCreed. As for Yasuke, he's fine. Yes, Ubisoft is probably pandering. Normally we play as historical unknowns and meet the famous figures, like playing Ezio and meeting Da Vinci, etc. However, the hordes of people on twitter who suddenly think they know Japanese history are honestly more insufferable.
Actually aside from gamrolay, most of this video are problematic due to the weaknesses of Yasuke theory
the Japanese Wikipedia reads:
また、金子拓によると、『信長公記』の筆者である太田牛一末裔の加賀大田家に伝わった自筆本の写しと推測される写本（尊経閣文庫所蔵）には、この黒人・弥助が住処（部屋）と扶持（食べ物）を与えられ、道具持ちをしていたという記述があるという[12]。
He had food, a place to sleep, and had the job of carrying tools.
From the Japanese Wikipedia: According to Kaneko Taku, this is a description of Yasuke from a copy of a manuscript believed to be handwritten by Oda Ushikichi, the author of "Nobunaga Koki," passed down to the Kaga Oda family. This manuscript is stored in the Sonkeikaku Library (尊経閣文庫, Sonkeikaku bunko)
(I couldn't find anything about an actual private house, much less a estate)
Samurais were very high-ranking and had their own estates, so this doesn't look like much of a samurai treatment to me. Even if there were poorer samurai (though he couldn't be a rönin because those were lordless samurai, and he was Nobunaga's servant) his description is much more in line with his actual job of just carrying tools or the swords, as some say.
Also we can find this:
家臣に、弥助をどう処分するかを聞かれた光秀は、「黒奴は動物で何も知らず、また日本人でもない故、これを殺さず」として処刑させずに
"Luís Fróis's Annual Report on Japan"
That translates to:
When Mitsuhide was asked by his vassal how he would dispose of Yasuke, he did not have him executed, saying, ``The black guy is an animal, he knows nothing, and he is not Japanese, so I will not kill him.''
That is not something you would say about an enemy samurai.
Lastly, Yasuke was with Nobunaga for barely 15 months; that's no time to earn the respect a samurai needs. That's barely enough time to learn how to speak Japanese.
I'm tired of the silly war between the Assassins and Templar. Instead refreshing the AC franchise with Origin they should've started a new franchise about warriors across history. I would like to explore the ancient world as one of the people living there, not as an agent in some silly secret global war that raged on for centuries.
And I really don't like the "meeting famous figures" trope. If they are part of your story then I'm fine with that. If the very town or region I'm at is filled with famous people from history as side quest dispensers the it feels so cartoony or near fantastical.
It’s funny too because history is just that history it’s not always fact and can be heavily altered from reality
Honestly, I feel like it's about time we play as real historical figures. I really like that idea. I think Shadows is doing it perfectly: Using a real historical figure as protagonist alongside a fictional one. Don't get me wrong, I also loved all my fictional Assassins.
@@arielquelmeThe guy who made the video is an actual Japanese historian, your just quoting Wikipedia.
- Did Yasuke existed? Definitely.
- Was he a samuraï as status and position go? Possibly.
- Was he a samuraï in all manners of a native one including the fighting style and knowledge? Considering he stayed a couple of years in Japan, probably not.
- Hence is he a fine choice for someone who wants to play as a typical samuraï and have insight on Japan from that era (i.e anoptimal choice for a video game protagonist)? No.
- Would Yasuke still make an interesting and cool game protagonist if the marketing and story type were different to match this? Most certainly yes.
- Do I trust Ubisoft (or any big western company for that matter) to tell that story in an accurate and inspring way?
...
DEFINITELY NO.
"Kosho"
People probably wouldn't complain if Yaskue was a character you could interact with rather than play as. Then after the main game have him be a playable character in DLCs.
Also I guess this also goes against the lore of AC where you go into a machine you play the memory of ancestors and throughout the series you play fictional characters who interact with historical figures.
Personally I stopped play AC after the French Revolution one, only playing Odyssey but never finished, because they changed the gameplay and the writing for me started to get pretty bad and the series felt like it overstayed its welcome.
Honestly with the amount of diversity that has been shoved into entertainment media these days it should come at no surprise the reaction by the internet whether it was the intent of the creators or not.
People complaining about Yasuke. Me complaining the price tag + Hattori Hanzo is not a playable character.
At least he become they mentor
A bit late to the party but I do translate Heian period literature into English and I do have a point to make and two cents to throw in. First, I know that during the Heian period the term saburai 侍ひ, (originally pronounced something like samburafi with the 'b' and 'f' becoming less pronounced over time) and referred not to warriors but to servants in general. Because the warriors were considered to be the social inferiors of the aristocracy for a long time and were often hired/utilized by them and they managed to accrue lots of power, the term kinda stuck. But, if I'm also not mistaken, (and I very well could be so correct me if I'm wrong) the samurai were never an official social class until after Nobunaga died. I don't know if it was Hideyoshi or Ieyasu who codified a lot of what it meant to be a "samurai" so I don't know if much of this, if any, actually applied to Yasuke. Yes he was a warrior who served under Nobunaga. He was granted honors and titles and even land. Was he a samurai? Well, I'm not super into the Sengoku period and I'm not sure how the term was used so I can't say, but if my memory serves me correctly, I don't think anyone was a "samurai" in the way most people think of them now; a member of a distinct warrior caste.
Secondly, had this been made 5 to 10 years ago I would have been all for it. I've been wanting them to adapt the Yasuke story for a very long time. But over the past several years it's safe to assume that they didn't do this because they desperately felt this story needed to be told. No. It's just a fantastic chance to squeeze in some more of "the message" and maintain some level of legitimacy and deniability. And while it 'looks' great it's clearly lacking a soul. And that's depressing because the story of Yasuke deserves to be adapted and told by person/company that can actually put some heart into things.
Lastly, oh wow look yet ANOTHER historical Japanese video game set in the Sengoku/Edo period because clearly Japan only had a couple of centuries where anything cool happened. It's not like there are stories like the rebellion of Taira no Masakado, or Fujiwara no Sumitomo, or that Japan has been adapting and retelling wonderful stories about the Gempei war for centuries, or that Japan has a rich collection of myths from the Kojiki and Nihon Shoki that could be adapted into some super cool movies and games. Nope! Japan only every did anything remarkable in the Sengoku/Edo period so I guess we're making another game set during that time and will never ever make anything set in another period of Japanese history . . . except for one game and that's Ghost of Tsushima, but we're also going to anachronistically shove in a bunch of Sengoku/Edo period visuals and ideas because we can't have things be too different from the Sengoku/Edo period because the Sengoku/Edo period is the best period.
Great break down on the historical accuracy of this game. Thank you for deciding to make it because I would not have watched any other channels response to the issue. Much appreciated.
Ill wait for Ghost of Tsushima 2
Unless they woke that as well
@@Excalibur01 GoT had at least 1 "strong" female character (oh also the side story of that bow chick), but it executed it well and the game overall was very good so it ultimately didn't matter.
@@sirtipsalot7320 Very good story telling GoT. Didn't matter if we had a grandma fighting on par with a dude have her age and in much better condition, it was cool. Yuna wasn't some girl boss. Her brother was weak sauce but wasn't a coward. A lot of good characters.
@@Excalibur01 Yes, good characters go a long way.
And also gameplay. Sure, I wasn't parkour over structures and everything like an AC game but it doesn't have to be like that
This was excellently well said. I just got done putting 96 hours into rise of the ronin, that felt like a love letter to Japanese history, from each landmark having a historical blurb, to almost every character being real and extremely loveable (RYOMA AND SAITO ESPECIALLY) and then the combat felt deep and crisp.
I just...dont think this is gonna reach that, i get a bad feeling its gonna be the same shallow stealth, with 2 button combat. Imma wait and see reviews. I almost hope they go for a more tenchu feel then AC feel, and for the love of god no hidden blade please
I guess I'm "counter culture" here, but having platinum-ed both Sekiro and Tsushima, which have very different levels of alignment to historical fact and authentic "Japanese" messaging, there can absolutely be a balance to strike. There's unexplored territory in the genre that AC is well equipped to explore, notably stealth! Story Delivery? No chance AC can be better than Sekiro. Historical Accuracy? It has no place trying to trump japanese made Rise of Ronin. But it doesn't have to, it can still stand on its own.
Is a western representation of Japan a crime in an of itself? Does historical accuracy have to be everything? I wouldn't say so: it says a lot about what westerners hope to see in any context, and ancient Japan seems to be a backdrop that allows us to imagine it. It's like when we learned that Katana WEREN'T the main weapon of the samurai. It might have been a splash of cold water, but it qualified our understanding of what actually happened, and still it shouldn't take away from our ability to appreciate things entirely. Historical accuracy doesn't have to be everything, and having historical characters given more clout than they really had and women take up the role of the stronger-than-life ninja can give us a chance to inhabit a world we want to visit. It says a lot about us!
tl;dr, if AC Shadows can give me a ninja game with pretty/idealized japan, cool characters, and the good stealth that AC sometimes delivers, (which sekiro and tsushima didn't really deliver), I can judge it as a good addition to the array of samurai/ninja games that exist today.
I think it would have been cool for them to have committed to the historical figure bit and made the shinobi be Hattori Hanzo with Yasuke as the samurai as he is right now. It’s not an inconceivable pair up especially given the Oda-Tokugawa alliance that was incredibly relevant in the fight against the Takeda and the involvement of Iga. So having a Tokugawa retainer be the shinobi alongside Yasuke the Oda retainer would be a cool representation of that alliance. And I just plainly like those two figures by default.
Ita still cultural misreprentation sincr Yasuke eas not a samurai
@@arielquelmeWe can’t say for sure what he was. But more evidence then not leans towards him being a retainer or samurai of some sort. As Shogunate pointed out in this video. The uncertainty combined with the few pieces of evidence means it’s not really wrong to depict him as one as there’s little saying he wasn’t.
There was actually an outcry when william became the protagonist in Nioh
Yes I do remember, but some people have shorter memory
There was no outcry. You can't even find information about that. Please explain with more detail
@@TreyeParker yes the complains existed. Not as much as the assassins creed game but they existed. And all came from the side that is now supporting a black character in feudal Japan, the irony
@@vippixel8942 Must be a pretty small outcry considering Yasuke managed to gather more contreversy than the white dude.
@@shellshockedgerman3947the controversy was big when the game came out. Maybe you’re too young to remember or just weren’t into gaming at the time
9:58 Where female warriors as rare as African Samurai? 😅
Of course not lmao. We both know what Ubisoft are doing
8:01 The big difference between them is that Adams had a lasting impact on Japan to the extent that he has statues and a train station named after him.
And Yasuke didn't? He's a legend in Japan and Japanese children learn about him at a very young age
@@mikeddh2018Really? What legendary things did Yasuke do?
@@mikeddh2018 bruh 🤣
@@RabbitShirak being a sidenote of some Portuguese missionary who happen to visit japan
@@mikeddh2018 where are his statues then?
I bet it'll be like that netflix yasuke anime where he barely matters and the woman is the real main character that progresses the plot and does the important stuff, Yasuke never gets good treatment.
i was so disappointed in that netflix anime
Why am not suprised at all to learn it was like this?
You “bET” NOTHING here as saying that “Yasuke nEvEr gETs gOoD trEaTMeNt” here is MASSIVELY false as Yasuke IS getting good treatment here from being A PART of Assassin’s Creed Shadows and AS the main character to play as in dynamic combat.
That IS good treatment here and Yasuke has been in other media with GOOD representation from him being in Nioh as a compelling antagonist and in Samurai Warriors 5 as a playable character whose great character in that game!
The female character is NOT going to be “tHe rEaL mAin chAracTer” NOR the only one that’s important and “progressing the plot and does the important stuff” lol NOT even close as Ubisoft’s representation OF Yasuke is going to be NOTHING like that of the anime at all as Ubisoft KNOWS what they’re doing here. The woman Naoe, AND Yasuke are BOTH the main characters here FOR Assassin’s Creed Shadows game as what you’re saying here isn’t true at all in the slightest nor makes any sense as Yasuke IS going to be important given all the importance to him in the game, that simple!
Yasuke WILL be greatly represented in the game given the amount of focus and care they are giving the character in the game, that simple!
@@Gadget-Walkmen can you tone down the bold words?
@@digimon5433 No, just no. Everything that which I’ve said here and the way that I’ve said is valid here. Nothing more needs to be changed AT ALL!
Feels like Ubisoft just taunting "he's real, can't get mad.. he's real, can't get mad🤪"
While most gaming journalists also cannot held the urge to look superior and educated on this situation by arguing about "umm actually, he is real🤓" (even tho feels like it's a well known fun fact already)
And we just forget about how absurd their prices are
Why choose yasuke?? There are more retainers that are better than him. Yasuke is just a low average character. Yasuke doesn't have any feats, no achievement. Absolutely a F tier character
The story is most likely about the female lead seeing Yasuke, as an agent of Nobunaga, attacking her people during the Unification Wars in the prologue, but then the main plot is after Nobunaga's death and she and Yasuke have to work together to defeat a common enemy. The story will probably be mostly be through her eyes and contrast her different conflicting experiences seeing him as the enemy and later her only ally when they are both outcasts.
Regardless of the actual story and controversy, the game still looks really cool while not replacing any of the awesome Koei Tecmo games set during various historical eras of Japan. There's still Samurai Warriors, Nioh, Rise of the Ronin, and Nobunaga's Ambition series.
I think nobunaga will most likely be a Templar and while yasuke works for him he will
Be converted to the assassin order and work from within to bring nobunaga and the Templar’s down . The final act will be yasuke and the woman killing nobunaga and then yasuke fully joining the order hence his disappearance from history . Really interesting if you ask me 🤷♂️
@@mookiestewart3776 That would be horrendous actually. Historical Yasuke was loyal to Nobunaga and remained at his side until the end. To do him dirty like this would be the worst possible insult to the man.
And I mean, Japan ended up unifed anyway by Nobunaga's two closest warriors, so should we conclude the assassins screwed it?
@@mookiestewart3776 In previously established AC lore, Nobunaga was a member/ally of the Assassins who went a liiiiittle crazy with power after obtaining Genghis Khan's magical sword.
If that's not retconned, it will likely be about Yasuke loyally serving Nobunaga before slowly losing respect for him, and leaving.
Same old mush we have been getting for years now. And if we complain about it, they go after the fans. Its Ubisoft, hard pass.
Who's "going after the fans" ?
Here we go. You and Metatron are the only opinions on the game I was hoping to see. Apologies for the obligation!
As excited as I am to see Ubisoft's rendition of Japan, I think we all know that the story and writing overall is going to be the weakest element of the game.
Were any of the other Assassin's Creed protagonists real?
Nope, he's the first one
Thank you for the gameplay video
I love how the fact they added. A historical figure that we get to play as most assassins creed games. We played as someone we don't know Existed, so i'm actually quite happy with this
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You nailed it! I also didn't care about the ethn!c stuff, but when I saw her flying over walls, beating 15 guards, carrying weapons in public (a capital offense for a non-samurai), etc., I went, "Uhh..." And if they chose a historical figure in Yasuke, why not pair him with Tanba Momochi?! His legendary exploits and uncertain fate made him a prominent figure in folklore and theater, and he would fit their timeline perfectly. He was even in AC Memories, a terrible defunct mobile game from a decade ago.
Its as if you have never played an assassins creed game. You dont play assassins creed expecting a simulation.
@@atomixfang I expect a good game, not a grindfest with timesavers, awful story, spongy enemies, and BS level gating.
@@RVeredbut if it's a ac game she should do the parkour it's part of the game identity
Bruh, people suddenly caring about realism in an Assassins Creed game shows how none of you actually played the damn games. The games have DNA superpowers, people able to relive their ancestors lives through DNA VR, along with precursor Godly race that died of solar flares. Realism went out the window long ago.
@@RVeredthis response has literally nothing to do with your original critique. Your original critique was a woman doing crazy feats of physical ability , this is assassins creed, physical realism has never been apart of the equation. You can’t skydive from 200 feat in the air and safely land in a pile of hay either…..you would have no problem if it was a man doing that though. You’re hiding the fact you don’t want a black guy and an Asian woman as the protags behind your stupid “realism argument” and you’re trying to shift the goalposts. Grow up man
The fact that every other Ass Creed protagonist is fictional except Yasuke is hilarious.
To be fair, if they had made an original black samurai, the outrage would have been FAR WORSE lol
@@FromTheAtticTV yeah looks like they found a sneaky way to dodge that bullet lol
Ass creed LMAO
@@wolfo11 of all things.. Why Yasuke
There is better representation of African origin black peoples like Malik Ambar from India sultanates from the same era. Ambar even made full warlord governor by his ruler..
Oh wait.. Ubisoft need to appease weebs lol
You do play Jack the Ripper in the titular DLC.
I only have one question. If Yasuke was a Samurai why eas he returned to slavery when Nobunaga died? Why did he not remain as a Ronin?
We don't know if he was returned to slavery. All we know is that he was placed back in the care of the Jesuits after being captured.
I started watching this channel after playing ghost of Tsushima, and I can’t ever get enough of the historical breakdowns and reviews of games and shows
IMO, I have no problem with Yasuke being a protagonist in a samurai game, and think it can work…
However, in an Assassin’s Creed Game, it’s a bit mixed. Yasuke is practically the only black guy in game, sticking out like a sore thumb. The whole stealthy assassin angle is gone when you’re the most notable foreign retainer of Oda Nobunaga, and massive.
Also, another part, is how it breaks all AC conventions, as Yasuke is the first playable historical character (excluding temporary ones like Leonidas)
Honestly, it’s says more about how Assassin’s Creed has gone downhill, as it become less become about assassins, and more RPG.
Yasuke being a protagonist in a game like Nioh, IMO works. But not for Assassin’s Creed
Why doesn’t it work?
@@TheXpertGenius83simple. He wasn't an assassin.
@@cyka7705 And he’s not in the game, he’s a Samurai, she is the Shinobi.
@@TheXpertGenius83you are so stupid. He IS in the game and is one of two of the MCs. And news flash, but even samurai can also act as a shinobi aka assassin.
@@TheXpertGenius83 pretty sure I heard there's 2 Playable characters. Yasuke and Naoe
Bring back Tenchu, end
Or onimusha or way of the samurai.
@@rdf4315 I miss Onimusha, I didn't play Way of the Samurai, but maybe soon I will
Tenchu, good times
@@Unknown31212 Yes, the first 4 games are incredible, and thanks by Tenchu exist Sekiro in part.
@Jairosan Way of the samurai 2 for the PS2 is one of my favorite games of all time, and I miss onimusha as well with 2&3 begin my favorite, but 4 is not bad either but I never beat it since I got hung up on a mistranslation in a strategy guide back in the day, but I remember hearing last year that once Capcom was finish with dragon's dogma 2 and the next DMC game, that onimusha would be the next big game they would be working on, don't know if it's going to be a remake or remastered, but in my opinion, they should just remaster it with just up-to-date graphics that it.
As much as I love the character of Yasuke, the ulterior motive part is when my BS alert went ringing when I saw the trailer.
Hahaha.. My BS alert also rang loudly either
How, though? From what I've seen from the trailer. They wanted us to feel what an outsider like yasuke feels and looks when visiting fuedeal Japan. That has been mostly AC games in the past. Like for revelations. Where you play as an older etzio visting Constantinople where it's under control by the ottoman. Keep in mind etzio is Italian. Same goes black flag, rogue, and valhalla being outsiders visiting a country or place that unknown to you.
Such a bullshi take.. Any weebs i knew, when they immerse movie or game about Japan history, they eant to be a historical samurai or ninja..
@@mrunknown6070 oh man. The Constantinople part had recently been taken by forceful invasion from the turks during that period in time. And also, that was Ezio’s last closing arc from his trilogy. The game was still about him, following him. As for black flag, the game was set during the golden age of piracy. And who were most of the pirates active in that time and part of the world? Mostly europeans. Rogue was still following a descendant of Edward kenway from black flag, during a time of the French and Indian war. And valhalla is literally viking heaven, and primarily focused on vikings raiding anglo-saxons. The ac shadows one actually goes full on japan, and so its no wonder people feel sidelined when they made an actual historical figure, who was not native to that country at all, one of the MCs, instead of any other actual japanese samurai who was alive during that time. Also, it’s worth noting that this individual was barely in japan, served Oda for a mere 15 months before fading away into obscurity.
@@SerAvarosok so Constantinople had recently been taken….was it taken by the Italians?? And even if it was then ezio has a plausible reason to be there , which SO DOES YASUKE! He was actually there at this time period as well so………
Nice video and thanks for the mention!
Of course!!
You and Metatron probably have the best takes on the whole situation. Despite you're initial apprehension on the topic, thanks for voicing your opinion anyway.
I instead would take Metatron's take only on this topic..
All about Yasuke status was only about fascinating theory
@@arielquelme The funny thing about you and others who share your view point on this topic is you can't be 100% sure about anything in pre modern history. Yes people trust historical documentation, but there are exaggerations in everything. That's why this "controversy" is selective outrage.
Metatron studies world history yes, but he primarily focuses on European history. I think we shouldn't easily discard the opinion of a guy whose content is all Japanese history and culture.
Well.. "me and my kinds" are quite pragmativ anf cateful whrn touching histories bryonf borders
Unlike this video which unabashedly jumping the conclusion "Yasuke mah man wuzz a sum'rayy!" while the factual records were theoretical at best
Not to mention that Akechi Mitsuhide were recorded to expel Yasuke from Japan to India because "he though Yasuke as animal and didnt xeserve to be killed in honorable combat or recruited" just like true samurai
By the way , you mentioned in the video that you reviewed the samurai games that you gonna make a samurai warriors : spirit of the sanada review
And I’m actually been waiting for it lol
I hope you make a review about it since it’s my favorite SW game
One day!!
great video as always
If they had to add Yaske they should at least give us a male shinobi maybe since they did historical charracters maybe give us that legendary guy
I recommend to watch Metatron's Video about the Question about Yasuke being a Samurai. He took a further Deep Dive on that Topic and pretty much came to a very different Conclusion after analyzing the Facts.
Yeah it's a great video
At that point you're running into interpretations and speculation. There are facts that he was given rank and prestige in Japan at the time. Do we have written records of him on that battlefield cutting dudes down? Not that I know of. At that point personal bias is thrown into it and all respect to Metatron the moment said DEI and that stuff I didn't take his take seriously. The culture war stuff is going too far where honestly if Yasuke was in the game at all shown as a samurai people would have been upset, playable or not.
@guywholikesheelies3231 while I do think Yasuke was a Samurai, I do believe Metatron's video was fair and somewhat leaned to the possibility of Yasuke being a Samurai/at least had some status as opposed to the numerous racist trying to imply Yasuke was just some slave.
@@spencil9941 for sure and I think he has a good take but the culture war stuff does taint his take for me so I take it with a grain of salt.
@@spencil9941 It's Japan, a country that's still racist to outsiders. Akechi Mitsuhide even refused to kill Yasuke because he viewed him as nothing more than an animal. Yasuke was the same rank as Mori Ranmaru, Page. Oda had intercourse with his pages & Yasuke was basically an exotic treasure that he paraded around. It's not racist to state that. It's a reality that Sengoku era Japan did not view foreigners as people and that includes Whites. They way they treated Catholics being a clear cut example. This is why the English based internet sucks. The entire discourse surrounds around modern current year fiction which wasn't even believed 10 years ago.
I hope we get to play both of them as we did in syndicate, or the option to chose either like in Valhalla, Odyssey
Seems like the trailer is portraying two fighting styles, ironically like Ghost of Tsushima, where you can play a stealth or head on warrior. That being said, the type of gameplay was always part of AC, at least as far as AC2, its just the game will always be compared to GoT due to being set in Japan.
Good points Nick. Thanks for the links.
Of course!
Personally I don’t have an issue with yasuke in the game at all! I just don’t think he should be one of the main characters, especially when the other option is a girl. Sorry but when I think of Samurai the last thing I picture is a female and yasuke would be way way way down the list.
I agree. Yasuke shouldn't be the lead, not because he is black, but because he is one of the least significant characters. It's obvious Ubisoft did it to champion a black man at the forefront of one of their games - it's politically motivated, and a shame.
@@Ash_Hudson I agree with you 100%. Same with having the female option. It’s just to check all of the boxes. But this is happening all over and unfortunately I don’t see it going away anytime soon.
Its ironic, back when origins released Ubisoft said it would never do a japanese centric setting because it would be to much of a trope! And im like bro! Where do you think ninjas and Shinobi come from? It would be best setting for assasins creed and the best part is the Japanese mythology can perfectly align with the major story overarching advanced aliens leaving their fingerprint all over the humanity's growth
And that is one of the big reasons why they picked Yasuke, in my opinion. Yes, they're happy because it brings diversity, but it's also a freaking awesome way to have a completely new, fresh, yet historically grounded look in what could be considered cliche at this point. There are many games where we play as native Japanese samurai, so this is a good way to distance themselves from what we're familiar with. Personally, I really dig this decision. But I can understand being disappointed in playing as an outsider.
@@FromTheAtticTV lol yeah bro, I wanna be trans racial so bad 😔
Likely because they are getting desperate to actually make a good game and this is the perfect slingshot they kept as their ace card
My thing is why couldn’t they just make the original AC Shadows a game starring both male and female Japanese protagonist, have Yasuke a major side character and crucial key to the turning point of the story, Build off that and come out with AC Shadows 2, and have that Be Yasuke’s full story of how he got to japan??? No?? Wouldn’t that have been much better??, I think Ubisoft got trigger happy ran across Yasuke’s origin story and fell in love with it, and totally scratched there original Idea, To me, that’s how it feels, it feels rushed, AC Shadows II Yasuke wouldve been hard, and if they ever do Yasuke main game, please just stick to 1 main protagonist, like shii bruh
Love your insight and how objective you were.
Actually its not objective
The theory of Yasuke being a samurai were pushed in subjective manner
the Japanese Wikipedia reads:
また、金子拓によると、『信長公記』の筆者である太田牛一末裔の加賀大田家に伝わった自筆本の写しと推測される写本（尊経閣文庫所蔵）には、この黒人・弥助が住処（部屋）と扶持（食べ物）を与えられ、道具持ちをしていたという記述があるという[12]。
He had food, a place to sleep, and had the job of carrying tools.
From the Japanese Wikipedia: According to Kaneko Taku, this is a description of Yasuke from a copy of a manuscript believed to be handwritten by Oda Ushikichi, the author of "Nobunaga Koki," passed down to the Kaga Oda family. This manuscript is stored in the Sonkeikaku Library (尊経閣文庫, Sonkeikaku bunko)
(I couldn't find anything about an actual private house, much less a estate)
Samurais were very high-ranking and had their own estates, so this doesn't look like much of a samurai treatment to me. Even if there were poorer samurai (though he couldn't be a rönin because those were lordless samurai, and he was Nobunaga's servant) his description is much more in line with his actual job of just carrying tools or the swords, as some say.
Also we can find this:
家臣に、弥助をどう処分するかを聞かれた光秀は、「黒奴は動物で何も知らず、また日本人でもない故、これを殺さず」として処刑させずに
"Luís Fróis's Annual Report on Japan"
That translates to:
When Mitsuhide was asked by his vassal how he would dispose of Yasuke, he did not have him executed, saying, ``The black guy is an animal, he knows nothing, and he is not Japanese, so I will not kill him.''
That is not something you would say about an enemy samurai.
Lastly, Yasuke was with Nobunaga for barely 15 months; that's no time to earn the respect a samurai needs. That's barely enough time to learn how to speak Japanese.
@@arielquelme I'm not taking Wikipedia seriously, use something else academic like Britannica or whatever
@@spencil9941im also not talking about wijipedia
Im talking about japanese wikipedia
Both sides of the Yasuke debate are wrong in how certain they are in their arguments. There are good arguments for both but no conclusive evidence either way.
誤解されたくないので日本語で書くけど、弥助は「小姓」として信長に同行する都合上、便宜的に「士分」を与えられたのであって、弥助自身が「武士」であったわけではないです。
事実、本能寺の変で弥助は信長を守ろうと武器を手にとりましたが、明智軍のだれも傷つける事はなく、またその戦闘技術もなかったため投降後に処刑されることもありませんでした。
日本人としてはウィリアム・アダムスみたいに大名になるサクセスストーリーがあったら面白かったのになとは思うのですが、弥助が信長の下に居たのは1年半程度の短い期間です。
そんな短期間に彼が武士として成功できたならば、相応の記録が残っているはずですし、現存する歴史文書にそのような記述はありません。
弥助が信長から得たのは住居と給料と士分ですが、それは弥助が武士であったと言える根拠にはなりませんね。
hopefully google translates my words ok, but just on characters, ignoring any of the other bad ubisoft stuff, usually Assassins creed always feels like a "what if" with its characters. and I do think if Yasuke was given proper training, he would have been a fearsome warrior. He was, as I understand, around 196 cm tall. I think this seeks to capture that. I dont think it will be successful. but just kind of a perspective I had
@@MadamMafia2 According to the Nobunaga Koki, Yasuke's height is recorded as "6.2 shaku," which is 182.4 cm when converted to the metric system.
Considering that the average height of Japanese people at that time was about 160cm, it is very large.
Aside from that, I don't think there is anything wrong with creating fictions based on "what if" scenarios, and we Japanese also fantasize about "what if Nobunaga was a cute girl? We Japanese love to fantasize about such "what if" scenarios and create ridiculous fictions.
However, I am a little concerned that the romanticism of "Yasuke" has taken precedence over the impact of the phrase "a black man in Japan's Warring States period," and recently I often see a ton of demo theories such as "Yasuke was a legendary great Warring States general.
thank you for bringing this up. Given his short tenure, there is no way he could have been a "Legendary Samurai" or anywhere close to the title. But I think this UA-camr has to have a neutral take due to various factors.
@@KeyboardManiaGuy Agreed. I don't think he should be turned into something greater than he was because I do believe that takes away the impact of his service to Oda and his ascension from slave to Retainer. Basically I hope they keep it realistic in terms of how they handle his story. I'm more nervous about them butchering the sengoku jidai. Like I have a bad feeling there are gonna be bad representations of Akechi, Ieyasu, and Hideyoshi.
So Yasukw was not a Samurai, but a servant
I’m a bit sad about this. I am glad about Yasuke. However, there is 0 doubt that there is an agenda here with all the controversies of modern gaming and the rewrites of consulting companies.
I truly think the AC controversy would be way lower if they gave a legendary shinobi like Hanzo Hatori or Sasuke Sarutobi. But instead the entire cast of this AC games are “the exception”.
In Nioh, only the beginning and last level take place in Europe, the rest is Japan Boogaloo. I can’t help but to think that this AC game will also have “exceptions” in the main story and side quests.
That’s that. Short version, Yasuke has been collateral damage of modern gaming and the true evil was the other main character, not Yasuke.
If you feature Ashigaru with matchlocks, you can score at least 2 stars in the Shogunates review.
I truly don't understand you and the others defending yasuke.
If all he evidence doesn't completely says he was a samurai but is pointing to a possibility. It's a hypothetical situation not a real one.
In archeology evidence indicates something possible but not a true. It's never a truth.
So you can never say he was a Samurai. You at the most can say he was possibly a samurai. It's semantic but that's how archeology, anthropology and historiography works.
The thing we should all be upset by is that this is a Ubisoft game and is already being monetized out the ass.
I would have been more interested if we played as a glorified western version of hanzo. The real issue is $150+ AUD for the ultimate edition which gives you rubbish
Great video! I think you touched upon great points other creators have not (since a lot of people are just focusing on Yasuke), namely the general historical inaccuracy of their "ninja" depiction and the overly flowery postcard Japan. I'm expecting 0 historical accuracy or authenticity of Japan, but I still hope that this can be a fun Hollywood-esque experience.
well, I don't think Yasuke is going to be portrayed as a samurai with realistic skills either to be honest, so if we are going to complain about the girl for being unrealistic in terms of combat we could do so for most samurai games as well
Most samuris werearchers first. Sword was just oh shit weapon when bow and spear failed.
People have a lot of problems grasping the meaning of "historical fiction".
Thanks for the intelligent video
A game TOKENIZING a Historical African figure in pre-modern Japan. Giving Yasuke a DEI Minstrel Black character to faux see myself on the console screen. Back in the Day STREET FIGHTER created a character DJ. Funny thing I never used him in my game play. Choosing Chun-Li or later Cammy. Chun Li's spinning bird kicks and mini haduken were fun to master.
The "expert historian" they hired for this is a fujioshi who wrote books about the love between monks and little boys. I mean, sure.. it did happen, but that was abuse, not some romantic tale of the past.
That should tell you all you need to know about the historical accuracy of this game.
Hundreds of Japanese professors who specialize on Sengoku era.. Yet they chose the pandering one
Wasn't she researching why Buddhist priests came to a liking to young boys? I never read the book, but it seems she is just researching about it. But again I don't know the book.
Yes, its on her C.V.
and at what point did she describe it as a "romantic tale of the past"?
Thank you sir. You got some very good points here. But demanding historical accuracy in Assasin's Creed games... All of the games ins the series are almost complete fantasy :)
Maybe in the marketing material ubisoft should not promote this with historical corporate bullshit.
This game is about 10-15 years too late, feels like Ubisoft just trying to catch up with other studios having seen other work these locales better. I remember when Ubisoft came out and said they'd never make an AC set in sengoku Japan.
I'd love to hear what you feel is the best authentic samurai game
It wouldn’t be such a controversial take, if Wikipedia didn’t change the history of Yasuke right when the trailer was released.
That reeks of Netflix Cleopatra all over again.
But my biggest complaint is $170 for an ultimate edition of a live service game, that is utter nonsense.
This is nothing like Cleopatra, he is black and this isn't a documentary :/
It's not a liveservice game and you dont have to buy the ultimate edition(which is actually $130, not 170). The base game exist for the usual $70.
This is not comparable to Cleopatra. Yasuke did exist and he was black. That’s been a known thing and a core trait since he was first brought up in the Chronicles of Nobunaga.
I hope you realize that anyone can edit Wikipedia.
Yasuke's samurai status has been edited back and forth for years now, ever since he became popular in 2020. The editing fight has just really ramped up in the past week because of this game. its very disingenuous and fundamentally a lie to imply it was changed only to say he was a samurai in support of this game. You can literally view the edit history on the page.
I have Japanese in-laws. I asked them about this "controversy" and they just laughed. They couldn't care less about "cultural appropriation." This isn't an uncommon sentiment in Japanese culture, they honestly don't tend to care much if others wanna check out their culture and even adopt their ways of dress and such. This is widely seen as a compliment more than anything.
its not about appropriation. its apart of a trend in hollywood and games where they cherry pick black figures, and often blackwash white or asian ones and act all surprised when people are bothered by it. Yasuke is the like the only black person mentioned in feudal japanese history, its obvious they only picked him because hes black and they want to virtue signal, get those GEI investment bucks
False. Go check out the Ubisoft Japan's video and enable the dislike meter. You'll see how your anecdote is wrong.
@@NehilismNo he’s not wrong maybe you don’t know Japanese people in your life so your opinion holds no weight
@@Nehilism the dislike meter does not prove a damned thing about what I'm talking about, as anyone with a basic understanding of logic could tell you.
And it's not really an "anecdote" when my mother in law is a fucking sociologist who has lived in Japan her entire life and understands the way her people tend to think.
Note, I said "tend," no culture is a monolith. But sure, you go ahead and feel smug about your dislike meter.
@harjutapa it is an anecdote you room temp IQ having progressive piece of ish. ANECDOTE. NOUN. a short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
Check yourself, don't be stupid.
They could have made him a dlc playable character and made a japanese guy as the main one thats way more better
8:07 yes, Nioh was a Japanese created game, and their culture to augment. With Ubisoft, they’ve taken their own liberty (with a sprinkle of modern politics), to make Yasuke the main protagonist. I totally agree - most historical records show Yasuke to be a samurai, but I wouldn’t consider him a representative of Japanese samurai in the Sengoku period. As an Assassins Creed Odyssey fan, I would have been pretty upset it Alexios and Kassandra were non-Greek characters. There is a sense of historical representation here, and Yasuke - a blip in Japanese history, spending only 3 years in country - is not a fair representation of the Japanese samurai. I know a few Japanese that are pretty upset with this, and feel Ubisoft is trolling Japanese culture. I feel the same. This feels less like a representation of Japanese samurai, than a representation of Ubisoft political views.
Side note; do you think there would have been an uproar about the characters if both were Japanese? No one would have been upset about that. Ubisoft chose to pick the controversial route… which says a lot about the way they see the world nowadays. Rant over. 😊
I honestly like the idea of Yasuke being a primary character. The Assassins had to make their way to Japan and that would have only been done by outside influence. I could see him starting the order in Japan though when being kicked out by Mitsuhide Naoe may take up the role as the master in Japan.
hes not an assassin till he meets the girl, in the begining hes against her.
@@buzzular8198 we don't know that though
Theory I have, he might be a reverse shay cormack. From templar to assassin.
@@Banzaiiii2223456 I can see that. It will be difficult because you really don't have a "good guy" of the time period. I just hope they don't go full "Europeans bad, Japan good"
@@guywholikesheelies3231 yep. i hope they do this period justice since i love shogun 2 and the nobunagas ambition series. Glad that they did not go with mongol invasion or gempei war. this one's more fascinating. I think they might retcon nobunaga to be a templar rather than an assassin. he is the daimyo to have the most templar-esque objective and he's kinda atheist as well and one of the daimyos to have widely welcomed the European traders.
I think the technicality of whether Yasuke should or should not be portrayed as a samurai in the context of an Assassin's Creed game seems trivial since the second game ends with Ezio fist fighting the pope and then immediately talks to a hologram of some ancient alien god.
I agree. I think there is a limit to the "it's fantasy" argument, but making him a samurai and an especially skilled one fits the genre. I am not sure how he will pull off stealth though.
Despite all the bad and mediocre things about Assassins Creed, the open world in this might very well become the most impressive rendition of Sengoku Japan in gaming.
That has me excited, even if all the other elements about it flop.
I have to say, I love that Naoe wears dark blue in the trailer, rather than jet black. From what I’ve heard, it’s more historical and I much prefer how it looks.
The difference with Will Addams is that he had real political clout. Japan spared Protestants from execution (but were still exiled) simply because Will is Protestant. Japan executed Catholics including native converts because they feared Jesuit subversion & cited the Philippines as an example of Catholic Christian cultural takeover. Yasuke has none of that political influence outside of the Koei games you mentioned. Koei plays with historical revisionism all the time, they even did a Nobunaga's Ambition game where you could play a bonus scenario of the God of War Uesugi Kenshin as a woman.
Although imo, I think he could have actually been a woman in disguise. His skeletal remains were measured somewhere between 4'11 - 5'2 and he was assassinated by getting impaled through his butthole while he was going potty. It's either that ninja were seriously waiting inside the lavatory 24/7 or they were aware that he is actually a woman & scheduled his assassination around his menstrual cycle. My point being, there's a lot of weird crap that happened during the sengoku era but some of the more weird & out there theories such as Kenshin somehow being a woman make a lot more sense to me than Yasuke being some legendary samurai warrior who went unnoticed for centuries even during his own era.
The Yasuke stuff really does reek of modern Western English-based politics & it's tantamount to cultural colonization. It's ok to have Yasuke in the game, but not as the leading role. Make him a bonus character or a skin. Even in Will's own game, the entire point of Will in Nioh was that they were trying to conceal his identity as a White guy and they even directly call him a 'White guy' in one of the first cutscenes of the game.
I do agree with you that the kunoichi isn't accurate but real life kunoichi were just spies who slept with men in order to gain intel, so it's not exactly something you could make a game out of and should've just wrote her out all together.
Actually irather than this Yasuke fiasco, im more interested about Addams role on influencing Tokugawa to persecute catholics
Since i heard (not confirmed yet) that Addams spoke poison of hatred towards catholic to Tokugawa Too, which influencing the Tokugawa regime hostility towards catholics
He literally covers your first critique in the video. Yasuke reached a status during his time in Japan that for you to suggest that he had “no clout” is insane. You don’t get the privileges he had if you don’t have some kind of clout at that time. Also it’s fucking assassins creed, they have always played with history regardless. You’re just mad and trying to split hairs because he black and you don’t want to see even a work of fiction put a black person in a position of power in a society you strangely romanticize for its “purity”. That’s why you’re having the knee jerk reaction you are currently having even if you don’t realize it .
I agree with what the two videos have to say about Assassin's Creed Shadows. I also agree with your take as well. This whole debacle is tiresome. Not much people are mentioning the absurd price points and whatnot.
What I do want, is a Sengoku Jidai samurai game. Wouldn't it be cool to play through the turmoil? Maybe play as Hideyoshi and his journey throughout his life. From peasant to one of the highest ranking men in Japan. I know that's what Nioh 2 basically was, but I don't want the fantasy element. I want major battles and whatnot. Samurai Warriors can only scratch so much of an itch in that sense. I kinda wanna lead a squad as Hideyoshi to secure and build Sunomata Castle.
Kessen 3 did exactly that.
My fscourite game too.. Kessen 1 2 3
But Kessen 3 deviates too much after Honnoji 😀😂
@@arielquelme yea after honnoji its pure fantasy.
The points you brought up about Naoe being super skilled and openly carrying weapons only further increasing the tropes of mythical Japan in older periods kinda fall flat when pretty much every other game in the series have their protagonists be represented in a similar fashion. This is after all Assassin's Creed, not "roleplaying as a historically accurate samurai in the Sengoku period" kind of game.
Regardless, never pre-order games, whether it be from Ubisoft or anyone else, reading the fact that pre-orders for AC:Shadows has been solid from Tom Henderson has made me disappointed that people still haven't learnt from countless of times with Ubisoft.
They certsinly thought of hidden weapons in ac syndicate though but forgot about in this.
8:53 last point get - for those that are fans of AC games, the point of “go play something else” doesn’t hold much water unfortunately. I get your point though.
nioh is purely fantasy games that only use historical record as refrence in their games, which isn't really fair comparison since Ghost of Tsushima exist
AC is Fantasy WDYM
@@VainSickno, not at the core. But since origins, the series took a LOT of liberties and went very fantasy.
LOOOLLLLL not a fair comparrison you mfkas are not even hiding it anymore ffs
@@Gwilherm The game is All fantasy...what are you people on.....In origins you literally fight gods and find super high tech and gear that can alter reality, Odyssey you visit Atlantis and in Valhalla you fight Jotun and meet the Norse gods
STFU just say you hate blacks and don't want to see them in media this is ridiculous
@@Gwilherm My dude the series had progenitor aliens and magic since the first game...
Man what a bummer all I wanted was a Japanese assassin dude like Ezio Auditore, it wouldve been so legendary.
You are correct that Ubisoft has an insidious motive. That motive being to make money. While the Culture war loves to argue that Yasuke being a protagonist is part of a somkescreen plan to generate controversy and hide the pre-order scheme in reality it is more likely that since AC has moved more in the realm of pop history they went with a charecter that is well known in the pop history space when talking about Japanese history.
The general issue on the "Was Yasuke a real samurai" analysis is sadly often a missunderstanding in the given facts of his role and the gifted things by Nobunaga and the word stipend but also the general identification of samurai. Stipend or fuchi wasn't just a salary for samurai, but for general retainers at the invidual courts (retainer = servant). The role of kosho wasn't suited for a already appointed Samurai since kosho was a pre-role before being appointed later to the samurai status. Why? Kosho were the japanese equivalant to an european medieval squire. They had the same responsibilities and both (kosho & squire) were usually jobs for young boys serving their knight / samurai. Recording say, that the sons of other samurai were selected as Kosho and would require the same amount of fuchi similar to a appointed samurai since of their family status. Also, the gifted short sword (no other gifted weapons are recorded) which was either a wakizashi or kodachi isn't a indicator that Yasuke was appointed directly to Samurai status, since at court all armed retainers (samurai or kosho or hatamoto) were required to carry short sword while longer weapons were banned. Only ashigaru outside of castle would be seen carrying long weapons. Kosho required the short sword in order to fulfill their role as bodyguard of their master. Additiontally, the missunderstanding about the other gift: the residence. In comparison to hatamoto William Adams, the recording about Yasuke's residence doesn't mention any servants which means that his housing might been only a simple place to sleep (e.g. a seperate room or bed inside of Nobunaga's chamber to serve him). Wiiliam Adams on the other hand was appointed to Hatamoto (Bannersman / personal consultant), which was usually assigned to already appointed samurai but not any kosho. The respectable residence of a hatamoto would require additional gifted servants. Regarding, Yasuke accompanying his master on journeys or into battle - this was also the natural task of a kosho, just as the European squire would do. The historical documents of the given time are clear. Yasuke was a kosho, but there are no statements of appointment to samurai. Maybe he would've been a real samurai if Nobunaga wouldn't have died. Most people look at the fact or in case of an image and would argue simply: he's a samurai because he wears armor and sword. Well, that's not correct. Even ashiharu were wearing armor and wielded the same weapons as samurai BUT weren't samurai in the end. Samurai was a special status like european medieval knighthood. Also, the appearance of tosei gussoku (modern armor) on feudal japan makes it extremely difficult for simple people to differ between Samurai and Ashigaru.
Honestly I think it would've been cooler if we play as an Emishi-Izumo or Emishi-Ainu character, AC protags has always been original fictional characters so idk why they pick Yasuke (I lied, it's for brownie points). Just imagine if you play as an ancestor to the Matagi hunters, maybe he'll have an affinity with firearms and bows instead of the typical samurai archetype that we can find in practically every other game set in historical Japan; plus being of discriminated ethnicity in his own homeland would mirror Connor from AC3 who lately has been receiving a cult following.
PS: it would be cool if instead of the cliche action heroine Naoe is depicted as, she's a more historically accurate Kunoichi spying by blending in plain sight. She would be the perfect opportunity to incorporate the latest few Hitman game's stealth playstyle into the series, infiltrating using disguises and assassinating with clever methods to make the murder seem like an accident. Huge wasted potential, but then again it's modern Ubisoft and they're not competent enough to do such a thing.
This controversy is the dumbest crap ever. Being a game player is so exhausting.
What ppl should me mad about is the ridiculous prices. There's nothing wrong with Yasuke.
7:54 exactly my brother
This is why I don’t get it. They keep complaining about it while forgetting about Nioh
I’m not an Assassin’s Creed hardcore gamer , but I’m gonna play this since it might gonna be the second AC game to play (first was Unity) and I’m also kind of excited about it. And no, I’m not that crazy to preorder with that amount of money , especially when it’s a Ubisoft game lol
As an Asian dude who has never been interested in the AC universe , I want to say that I’m all for more diversity and representation. It’s important to showcase characters that aren’t just white and male.
Where I think you miss the mark is that there is such limited representation of Asian men in leading roles ANYWHERE that the fact that a leading game like AC set in Japan doesn’t have someone I can relate to is incredibly disappointing. I think there should have been a third character, Japanese male, and it would have made this whole issue nonexistent. I’m still waiting for someone like me to get opportunities across media.
Not a third a character, but replace Yasuke and Naoe and just have character who is a Japanese male (non-historical) and loosely base him on real figures who were samurai operating as shinobi.
I did see japanese tweet earlier about this "controversy," mentioning that they are used to even have stories where Nobunaga is young girl, so what?
btw, did you reviewed Ghost of Tsushima? I don't remember.
Now that the game was released again maybe it an "opportunity".
Yes I have a review of Ghost of Tsushima although my thoughts have changed on it over the years.
because those genderbend historical figure exist in purely fantastical and have no connection to the said figure except borrowed names. so it's a bit different i guess? they also made anime that at least trying to be authentic to the history just like AC but not change nobunaga's gender or personality, unlike the genderbend nobunaga in fantasy world
Can't wait for Genghis Khan as a fat man in a cat outfit, sure that will fit in seamlessly.
Also I want to see all three great unifiers, in goth Lolita, monkey gear and dressed like a schoolgirl respectively, in this game, it's just a perspective after all, not like any history matters if some doesn't. A fantasy setting and depicting the Zulu as Nordic are totally the same thing.
That doesnt change the fact that many upset about Yaduke being a samurai
@@arielquelme Tell them to go complain to Oda Nobunaga.
EDIT; wait, tehre really are people out there arguing that Yasuke wasn't a samurai and that there aren't any records?!
I think the ultimate reason I'm not going to buy this game is the price. I got other things to save up for that cost way more, and, are also much more important to me than a video game. Screw Ubisoft's pricing schemes
I'm Japanese, but I don't think there's any problem with making Yasuke one of the main characters. Yasuke is a real person with many mysteries and legends, but he's a very interesting character who hasn't been featured much in Japanese movies or anime so far. In the work Assassin's Creed, I think there is no one more suitable to expand the imagination than Yasuke in creating a drama of conspiracies with Europe, such as the Jesuits in Japan. I'm very excited to see how foreign game makers will portray feudal Japan and the mysterious character Yasuke.
Well you will be dissapointed. If you want a good game with feudal Japan setting its probably smart to just wait for Ghost of Tsushima 2. Ass creed havent had a good game since probably Black Flag.
I make it a rule not to review any game until I've actually played it myself, so I'll give it a try first
So, Naoe is an issue because, I quote your video "Female warriors were extremely rare in feudal japan", yet the one and only black man out of millions is not "extremely rare" ?
You missed the part where I also talked about how the ninja aspects are fake too. So with Naoe you have a character who is not only a fictional ninja trope but also just inaccurate based on the sheer rarity of female warriors in Japan. But it's a video game so like I also said at the end I can cut it to a of slack. I don't care are the characters tbh. The game is probably going to be mediocre as it is.
@@TheShogunate No I didn't, but using the rarity of one characteristic to diminish one character yet it doesn't count for the other (even tho it's even rarer) is at best an oversight, at worst voluntarily misleading. Just because I comment on that doesn't mean I "missed" other things you said.
There weren't female warriors in ancient greek either, yet AC Odyssey is a thing so from there...
@@benjaminthibieroz4155Yeah, well... I agree. Kassandra shouldn't have been in the game. That said, I like my historical based games to be ACCURATE
@@Ash_Hudson Ho trust me, I do too.
Thanks gods KCD 2 is coming this year.
I couldn't care less about Yasuke. But what bothers me is why couldn't they go the route of adapting any of the Japanese Assassins established in the lore (with their own wiki pages) like Yamauchi Taka, Mogami Yoshiaki, or even the enigmatic Hattori Hanzo.
I think making someone not apart of the natural environment is how you learn about the world through them. People think hes gonna start break dancing and spittin bars during feudal wars.
''To the people who are rallying around the idea that we should be playing as a japanese man, all i really have to say is this, just go play a different samurai game''
we will, and when the game flops (if ubisoft doesn't change course), remember, you said so
SHUT UP....TINY HAT
Well put
Ok fine. Ignore the flopped game then. I'm not sure why you suddenly care about ubisofts financials? Doing a lot to die on the hill of not having a black main character but being unwilling to outright say so
@@MrInuhanyou123 why wouldn’t I care about the financials of the developers for my favorite game series???
And it’s clear that people are against a black lead character for a game set in Japan, stop acting foolish
Dude, I don't think he cares if the game flops. He made that statement to say that you are wasting your time being angry at Ubisoft. Because you could be using that time to play already released and well received samurai and shinobi games.
Thank you as well for a balanced take on this. There is so much crap on both sides, it's amazing to see. One side lacks facts, the other just comes off as without facts and close you can get to racist on UA-cam. I get people are upset, but over Assassin's Creed, which hasn't been historically accurate for how long? People directly attack Yasuke's person, so there is no chance of them not taking it personal for some reason. Glad there is an alternative link for information out there that hopefully will bring some back from culture war madness.