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I think that when your getting up to these crazy high refresh rates, the pixel response of oled becomes a must so that the pixels can keep up with what's being asked of them.
You "only“ need 2ms response times for 500hz, which this has, but the problem is it’s not a stable 2ms. So every time it goes above 2ms there are visual inconsistencies.
@@HibiTeamQueso Thus not exactly once it never reaches above 2ms. If this reaches 2ms and a little above I'm pretty sure you don't (Underline this word) "need" an oled to make it work, this is just the first version of it. QLED do from 2ms to 8ms and I have one here, much more beautiful and bright, as well as more than capable of running 240hz, so it can do 500hz. Plus it doesn't burn, so why spend money on an oled and pass out one day with your pc on in risk of wearing down the lifespan of your monitor.
@@deemedmfg It depends what you'd like to do on it. If you're going with games I'd definitely suggest looking into QLED it has amazing colours and is a direct competitor with OLED. However, from my experience I would much prefer OLED for creative purposes so if you're looking into creating art or graphic design etc. The reason for this is, on QLED you can really bring up the brightness, which gives you a lot more clarity while playing games. If HDR ever gets implemented properly in the future, you can bring the brightness up even higher, I'll mention Doom Eternal for this, when you teleport to a practice range at the beginning of the game, you're presented with a white screen that slides up on the monitor. When I saw that white screen, my soul also went up into the practice range, it was that bright.. Plus the monitor doesn't burn so all you have to worry about is dead pixels and energy consumption. Also trying to get something with 1000 nits in HDR. For OLED's however, the colours are also very beautiful but this is only because of how their true blacks compliment them. Like on QLED's, if I look at a fully black screen, I can tell it's grey because of the emitting light. On OLED's, it is fully black as if you turned your monitor off. The only caveat is that it cannot be as bright as it's competitor. As I mentioned before, that's what makes it a very good creative component. You get a lot more clarity in this field. Leaving your monitor on with this one however really shortens it's lifespan, it's the worst if you leave it on a static image as well. You might get a ghosting effect of that image while you go do other things. Both are really good choices as there are plenty of options, sorry for the thesis, that's just me lmao. If I knew your reason for getting it I would be able to be more specific. My recommendation, one of those two but with 165Hz refresh rate at least. If gaming down to 1ms response time, if not then up to 3ms is great. If you have a good graphics card then 1440p resolution. If not then 1080p is pretty good if you're happy with it but I would suggest definitely spending some money on the beef cause an investment into a monitor, you might as well be very fucking with what you're looking at haha. Personally I have the RTX 4090, and my monitor is the Samsung Odyssey G9, I'm definitely look at the Neo G9 too but I think I'm gonna sit that one out, wait for the next generation in a couple of years.
I don’t know if it’s already going to be a thing at LTX (which I sadly can’t go to 😢) but a booth where people can actually experience 300-500 fps for themselves (and a video or short of their reactions) would be super cool.
no it wouldnt. Unless youre a nerd/pro, 99.999% of the population wont see the difference between 240 and 500 hz. I have a 240 hz monitor, and cant even tell the difference between 120 and 240.
@@MiggggyI do. Instantly every time, with 60hz looking choppy to me. It's crazy how eyes adapt. I don't mind for anything that isn't fps gaming, though
Very happy to see the channel is back to normal, hopefully no sensitive information was leaked with all the unlisted videos being published. Truly hope everyone on the team is able to sleep well after this, yikes.
I'm surprised they got full control of the situation and recovered everything "from the looks of it" was genuinely sad when i went on break and didn't see any Linus tech tip video suggestions.
@hustlehumbly6169 someone on the team probably got phished, they lost control of a few channels which got renamed to tesla and started streams to scam people
The moving the camera to match the screen motion was the best comparison I've ever seen without having a higher frame rate screen watching or locked into UA-cam's frame rate
Yeah, though if I recall correctly something like this could be caused by social engineering. Heard it happened to someone else and they got fooled by an email.
Iirc, the reason for the text readability problems on the OLED display is that it uses an RGBW subpixel layout, which is not assumed as an option while rendering in windows, causing text blurring. Microsoft is the one to blame for the text blur, but nobody can fix that except for Microsoft by issuing an update.
Not sure the GPU accelerated test they were running uses windows text rendering. It probably has its own implementation imported from some library. I bet whatever it is, it is not doing any subpixel stuff and assumes "perfect" pixels where all colors are in the exact same spot.
I tried a 360 Hz monitor at micro center and while I did enjoy it I came back to my 144 Hertz monitor and said. I'm absolutely fine. Diminishing returns is absolutely real when it comes to high refish rate monitors. I'm still very happy with my IPS panel. 1440p 144 Hertz with free sync is truly the sweet spot.
100% agree. I still use my Asus PG279Q which is 1440p, 165hz, IPS and G-Sync that I bought in 2014 I believe and to this day it still hold up. I haven’t found a good reason to upgrade yet. Maybe once 4K 240hz OLED becomes affordable lol.
Trying it at micro center isnt going to do shit for you. You need to be on a powerful PC to be getting that 360hz steady and use it for more then a few minutes. 240hz is definitely noticeable over 144, and 360 is noticeable but definitely to a lesser degree.
I have 60 4k, 144 1440p, 240 1080p and I'm a pretty casual gamer, 144 is the sweet spot for me but I bet if you were into more competitive, fast paced games 240 would be best and it feels nice
I think part of the reason the text is less legible on the LG OLED in the motion performance test is because the subpixel arrangement of OLED's tends to be non-standard to get a little more brightness. This can lead to text legibility issues because windows is set up for best performance with the RGB stripe subpixel arrangement that is standard to basically every LCD. At the moment there's no setting you can change to fix this in windows so it's a problem with basically every OLED display.
At this point the diminishing returns are getting so small that is might be batter for the industry to pick a top end refresh rate and the focus o making other things better.
I'm not smart, but imagine if future hardware become so optimal that companies start to sell them through a subscription service. They would need to release perfect and durable products, since there would be no reason to release a better version, or else people would just switch brands.
Honestly once I get 4K 120 fps I’m good, besides in game graphics I really don’t see a need to go further than that, 8k seems pointless and I’m so used to sub 60 fps I don’t think I’ll even care much about fps.
@@roadrash2005 Just make sure you get one with decent HDR. HDR is a huge visual improvement over SDR. My only gripes with HDR is having to deal with content creation. HDR is a pain in the ass to work with. 😅 I just wish they'd make innovations to make it simpler to work with HDR. The biggest innovation I've seen is HLG/S-log, makes HDR look good on any display, even SDR IIRC.
Real happy to see LTT doing comparisons to both the lg and the zombie in this video. Great competitors that many of us are truly looking at in this monitor category.
Hertz isnt just about Seeing. Its about the connection between your Eye and your Arm (movement on screen) 1000hz is what we need for VR for it to be indistinguishable from reality for instance.
Lmao bro what ? You just talking up ur ass because the mvmt in VR games is far slower than PC games so you would never need that amount of refresh rate, it's like consoles where 30 and 60Hz is much more acceptable because of the controller's slow and continuous motion unlike the mouse where you go from point A to B in like 0.1s. Something like 240Hz in VR would already be indistinguishable from reality
That HighLANder clip at the beginning hits hard for me, I used to watch Tek Syndicate religiously before the controversy. I still love Wendell and his channel level1techs
Refresh rate and response lag are separate things though. It's possible to still have a monitor that lags even if it has infinite refresh rate. A more relevant concern about ultra fast refresh rate is when fast-moving objects are displayed so smoothly on screen that the motion blur caused by the human eye negates any benefit provided by fast refresh rate of the monitor.
I'd take high-contrast accurate screens like OLED over a +200hz monitor any day of the week. At that point you're reacting based more on intuition than your ability to distinguish individual frames anyways. Brightness contrast accuracy and low response lag is much more beneficial at that point. If only burn-in wasn't still an issue.
Infinite frame rate will solve motion blur caused by tracking a moving object with your eye though. But this can already be alleviated via backlight strobing.
Jet pilots could see up to 255hz 1 image out of 255 and tell what kind of plane it was. If i had to guess your brain can probably perceive 4 times that continuously. So 1000hz of smoothness and to extent low input latency. But that's probably going to be as high as monitors will go.
It took us almost 7 years, but we are almost 1/3 of the way to the prototype 1700Hz display Nvidia showed off back in 2016. Maybe we will get there by 2045 :D
At this point the things holding back the monitors is just game optimization. It's basically just for CSGO because reaching that fps is crazy already. Probably need to use 720p, ultralow graphics, empty server, simple geometry, to get anywhere close
Unnecessary. Everything above 1000Hz is genuinely _beyond_ human ability to distinguish. Even above 500Hz humans can distinguish only very bright flashes and can process no visual information, but the perception of motion is still slightly affected by the frequency. At 1000Hz that goes away - the image appears perfectly smooth. In reality everything above 240Hz is pretty pointless for _most_ people - but once you're above 1000Hz you might as well make displays that show ultraviolet. They'll be just as useful.
I learned of the hack when I tried to show your PC build guide to one of our geek squad clients, to help them install a mobo, only to find out I couldn't find any video from the channel. Def a surreal moment. Made us all appreciate these tech tips.
600Hz will be beneficial, not because it's faster but because it's divisible by almost any standard frame rate so never has to switch to a lower refresh rate for movies or whatever. Then we'll be at the same point we're already at with resolution, where there's literally no point in going higher
Agreed because a divisible framerate is the best, but not agreed, because I don't think that you will notice, that one frame is 2ms shorter than the other, even if your movie has 120 fps (e.g. Gemini man). Even this would mean that 8 and 10ms long frame would follow each other, so you need a very sharp eye/mind to notice it. In a 60Hz video (UA-cam) it would mean 16 - 18ms, which I doubt very much that you would notice.
These are the top 3 monitors for motion clarity / eSports right now ... I'd like to see another test with top gamers trying them. I suspect the benq 360hz tn panel with bfi is the clearest / top choice which is a shame because I was rooting for oled because people claim the colors are nicer - (would like to see a blind test where users say which monitor colors they like best as well - not only motion tests)
The colours are only nicer when accompanied by a black/dark background on oled. It's because the black is smooth the colours fit much better. QLED's have the best colours but not as good blacks. I have one here and this thing is the most beautiful thing I've seen.
14:00 it doesn't have to be about reaction time. The screen being more readable when moving fast might still help you. When you're playing shooters you can 'scan' around you much faster. Think 'spinbotting' but not hacking just swinging mouse very fast and still being able to see enemies. It might also help with good ol flick shots.
yea I imagine it would take me less time to check my corners in games. I'm on a 1080/165 panel and it's pretty good but I will say it's kind of smeary when you want to flick 90-180 degrees to check your six. can't imagine the benefits of an OLED in these situations
I’ve been literally trying to take that front panel of for years… And you sit on it and open it?! I tried it and it worked!! Thank you Linus for solving this problem with your butt
I'm not surprised with the conclusion but I'll say that once we're at a point with all the components being able to essentially be refreshed at the same time I'd love to see you guys make the best setup you can and bring in an esports rep to showcase the build and try to essentially beat a record of thier own.
problems with that no one will be able to agree on who to bring in to be the rep. anyone over the age of 23 is pretty much out right away as astudy showed that anyone over 24 has worse reaction time then there 22 year old self as reaction times decrease with age. it is why teens think there grand parents are slow. it is because they are slower. the person will probably need to be over 18 for well legal reason's. so roughly a 4 year gap where they could possibly be chosen.
@@si2foo oh I'm aware but there's always going to be controversy on this streamer vs that. At that point you can't do anything so better to get something cool to share and those who "would have chose differently" will have their shot when they build their own brand to this point. It's not like Linus wouldn't try for the best that's doable anyway.
I think for filming high frame rate monitors, you should turn up the shutter speed (i.e. turn down the shutter angle). As it is, we see multiple frames on the monitor simultaneously. But since the shutter speed is around 1/60 s, there's no way to tell, how many frames are actual after images.
I want to clarify, going from say 2ms from 3ms per frame has an accumulative effect, I don't think people see frames but rather the frame pacing which is where the fluidity of smoothness comes from. I'm absolutely certain that people can see the difference in frame pacing all the way up around 500hz, however further increases in hz will still boost clarity of motion. But you need the pixel switching to be responsive enough to actually drive the refresh rate, which is why Asus' TN Panel will likely be a lot better than this 500hz IPS panel.
Panasonic TC-P50U50 600hz subfield Oled has instant response time, then holds the color till next frame pops. Crt and plasmas work with glowing phosphor, this inherently smoothes motions.
the 240hz oled is amazing. one of the biggest benefits as well is you only need to be getting 240fps to fully utilize it. the 360hz or 500hz monitor requires the game to be able to run at those frame rates to even get the full benefit. A lot of games struggle to hit that 500fps mark but have no issues hitting 240fps.
I've noticed the biggest thing isn't really how clear things are as much as how it feels. Your shots seem to land more the higher the hz. In a way it feels like less desync. That's been my experience.
Can't wait to get my hands on something over 70Hz for the first time ever next year. ^^ The standstill image showing the ghosting was much more useful than showing a video of the screen btw. I'd love to see that more often.
Picked up the LG they compared with in January and I've been extremely happy with it. 500hz seems a bit overkill, especially given the worse pixel response time.
@@Kholaslittlespot1 true, and even after a point (imo from 144-240), it isn’t worth going over due to the diminishing returns compared to the price point
I have the 360hz and bought it when it was $300 New on Amazon last year. Cleanest monitor I've ever used, hands down. Haven't had any issues either so far. If you can find it at a good price, I highly recommend it.
Impressive progress over the recent years. I remember 75 Hz being the best option you could get in a consumer LCD display a couple decades ago, and many preferred CRT solely because of their faster refresh. There may be a niche market for this kind of displays, although you generally face diminishing returns beyond 144 Hz. Unless you need the least possible input lag or get rid of motion blur without strobing the backlight too much, you shouldn't probably need that many hertz in a display. According to the Nyquist-Shannon theorem, a display should be enough to update at twice the flicker fusion threshold, suggesting a range of 120 to 180 Hz.
wow judging by the still image at 9:03 I'd surprisingly choose the Alienware after staring this image down for 5 minutes... I did not see that coming. My immediate choice was middle, but after looking and looking and looking. I think there's something special about the very minor ghosting and much reduced hard lines in the Alienware compared to the Zowie. LG OLED is actually my least favored of this image, which is most surprising. I have always loved the look of LG OLED (even if they used to have some bad burn in) but Alienware won me over here
Considering ALL their employees are tech-savvy and work with PC's and are online all day, its actually kinda embarrassing. Opening up an email and DOWNLOADING an executable?, and then running it locally? That's the equivalent of falling for the Nigerian Prince scam in 2023. I'm surprised he didn't outright fire whoever did it. Again, all these guys are tech savvy, this' isn't a regular business, with normie employees who don't understand the internet. Who works with PC's and downloads and runs an .EXE file? I would legit fire the person immediately.
I'm happy with my 240hz Samsung Curved g7 32". Ever since my first curved monitor, which admittedly did not last long I cannot go back. Though my first one was one of the earlier models but this one has been great.
@@yellomonky4272 I beg to differ and so do my older Samsung monitors that are now used for work. You do realize that Samsung and LG make most of the panels out there for these monitors right?
As a lifelong LTT fan I have to laugh at myself for watching videos I can't even truly see. And coming back to the video years down the road after purchasing the product. Proves how spot on they are. Equivalent to "trust me bro"
1440p 120-165hz is the sweet spot for me,it's budget friendly and is good for both competitive and casual gaming,don't care too much for the added bells and whistles.
Variable refresh rate is a must, otherwise you won't see much of those 120Hz... and 32" is good for immersion. (Though 27" would be better for pixel density.) A curved display is better too at that size if it's not IPS or OLED.
Thanks so much to the LTT group! I have been plagued by the shadows and overscan on my LG IPS and I downloaded the smoothfrog to try and figure it out. Setting my response time to FASTEST instead of FASTintroduced a MASSIVE amount of ghosting and even color smearing. And I couldn't notice all of those changes without that application. UFO test isn't as good as Smoothfrog :) Now I can stop looking and going through my settings every other day!
It's great to see LTT pay respects to the lesser channels. Aperture Grille has consistently produced likely the most innovative testing on both Pixel-Response and Input-Response that has ever graced the face of UA-cam. It's fascinating stuff once you discover that CRTs technically surpassed the LCDs of 2023 over 120 years ago at their initial conception. (First actual CRT display was 1922 but it would've been physically possible at initial conception assuming the need was immediately present.)
@@WaffleCake I was so torn when switching from my old HP CRT 16". I use to play minecraft and Garry's mod on that, and could definitely feel the difference, even as a 10 year old!
You also cant forget the tickrate of those CS:GO and Valorant servers. Thise are limitations as well. CS2 wants to go a new way eliminating that. You might want to test it again with CS2.
Nice thing about Displayport is no $10 license fee required for each HDMI port. :-) Only issue I had with it was blacking/blanking out on me every so often, when doing shopping for a new DP cable, discovered I was using the wrong cable, a 1.2 cable on a 1.4 GPU/Monitor causes random blackouts.
Even 1.4 cables can have those issues if you're unlucky... I paid 20+€ for a pretty short DP1.4 cable, because I needed one asap to fix this exact situation, and the options at the local shop were limited, and it still had that same issue. Ordered another 1.4 cable, this time a bit longer and costing like 5-10€, and it works perfectly... Really wishing LTT's cable tester would be put to good use, and we'd get results soon, no manufacturer seems trustworthy. =(
I am waiting for a 35" QD-OLED for that ultra wide color space, with 1440x3440 and 360hz, and LEDs that can handle 200 nits for productivity without nearly the same risk of burn in as today's panels, and with cleartype fixed. I'd spend about $1200 for that, hopefully about 3-5 years out based on how quickly that tech is growing.
Hell, I just want an OLED monitor that can do 4k (real 4k, not ultrawide). I haven't noticed much going to 120hz (or 240hz), but I certainly notice local dimming zones with actual HDR, and OLED's should be even more crisp.
@@koilamaoh4238 60hz is too low for modern games, once you see what 144 looks like you never want to go back. The difference above that gets harder to notice and you typically have to sacrifice image quality so 144 is the sweet spot right now
@Kekus Magnus lol exactly. even in smartphones you can notice it. went from a 60 hz phone screen to a 120 hz one and everything just feels smooth. when the battery gets low, it automatically changes to 60 hz and it is jarring
@@SevenMilliFrog barely notice it on my galaxy sam oled screen. Considering I don't game as heavily as i used to.. My games are light weight now a days like minecraft, terreraria, starbound, diablo II, and other indie ones, , with 3070/1080ti. I don't really wanna give up my older ips monitors, as they are close to oled when I compare, eventually ill upgrade my window 7 machine, as its my main.. 15 year old pc lol, can go another 10 years probably with its hardware. Have a win11/10 machines, meh, screws up my software that I use mainly.
BFI is incredible. When done right it can make 60Hz look like 120Hz and 120Hz look like 240Hz. My old Acer XB271HU had BFI in 120Hz mode and the clarity was *better* than the clarity of my new 240Hz OLED (the LG one you talk about in the video). Yes, the after-images take some getting-used-to, but particularly OLED monitors could do BFI without any of the drawbacks, they could just roll the line scan across the display in like 1/3 or 1/2 chunks and it would look amazing. Of course brightness is an issue, but particularly with OLED you can in theory have an arbitrary sample-and-hold time before you turn the frame black, for another arbitrary amount of time. That might not provide the full BFI effect, but it would still improve motion clarity
What do you think of a 500Hz refresh rate on your monitor? How much of a difference do you think it makes? Let us know down below!
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Not even a 1000Hz monitor gonna help if you suck at playing Counterstrike 😅
Its better than 60hz.. although everything is better than 60hz.
It’s 1080p, so that disqualifies it for me. 144hz is already butter, and since I don’t play esports title competitively, my 1440p monitor is perfect.
Trying to see Linus demonstrate the benefits of a 500Hz monitor on a 60Hz phone
With 30 fps video
You need to upgrade im trying to see them on my 120hz phone
i mean youtube only plays 60fps max anyway so yeah lol
more like 30hz because the video on 30 fps
@@itchiegames UA-cam needs to upgrade 💁
Great, now we can see our 0.05 kd 500 times per second!
Brutal😢
Real
0.06 actually 😂😂😂😂
Heck yeah .05 crew here
sad reality
Surprised how fast that took to get the channel back into LTT's control. If this was for smaller creators it would usuallly take days.
isn't that obvious cause larger channels would have a larger viewerbase and more help from yt?
@Zaydan Alfariz but are they hacked lmao?
It’s most likely that he has connections to people at google
@@RandomChannel4Kids absolutely, creator UA-cam partnership, especially being a tech channel, good on Google/UA-cam for helping them out!
Days? Hahahahaha.
If it's a smaller channel, and if it's not large enough, don't expect any kind of help.
I think that when your getting up to these crazy high refresh rates, the pixel response of oled becomes a must so that the pixels can keep up with what's being asked of them.
You "only“ need 2ms response times for 500hz, which this has, but the problem is it’s not a stable 2ms. So every time it goes above 2ms there are visual inconsistencies.
@@rabidlorax1650thus you need oled
@@HibiTeamQueso Thus not exactly once it never reaches above 2ms. If this reaches 2ms and a little above I'm pretty sure you don't (Underline this word) "need" an oled to make it work, this is just the first version of it. QLED do from 2ms to 8ms and I have one here, much more beautiful and bright, as well as more than capable of running 240hz, so it can do 500hz. Plus it doesn't burn, so why spend money on an oled and pass out one day with your pc on in risk of wearing down the lifespan of your monitor.
@@xenaisu what monitor would you recommend
@@deemedmfg It depends what you'd like to do on it. If you're going with games I'd definitely suggest looking into QLED it has amazing colours and is a direct competitor with OLED. However, from my experience I would much prefer OLED for creative purposes so if you're looking into creating art or graphic design etc.
The reason for this is, on QLED you can really bring up the brightness, which gives you a lot more clarity while playing games. If HDR ever gets implemented properly in the future, you can bring the brightness up even higher, I'll mention Doom Eternal for this, when you teleport to a practice range at the beginning of the game, you're presented with a white screen that slides up on the monitor. When I saw that white screen, my soul also went up into the practice range, it was that bright..
Plus the monitor doesn't burn so all you have to worry about is dead pixels and energy consumption. Also trying to get something with 1000 nits in HDR.
For OLED's however, the colours are also very beautiful but this is only because of how their true blacks compliment them. Like on QLED's, if I look at a fully black screen, I can tell it's grey because of the emitting light. On OLED's, it is fully black as if you turned your monitor off. The only caveat is that it cannot be as bright as it's competitor. As I mentioned before, that's what makes it a very good creative component. You get a lot more clarity in this field. Leaving your monitor on with this one however really shortens it's lifespan, it's the worst if you leave it on a static image as well. You might get a ghosting effect of that image while you go do other things.
Both are really good choices as there are plenty of options, sorry for the thesis, that's just me lmao. If I knew your reason for getting it I would be able to be more specific.
My recommendation, one of those two but with 165Hz refresh rate at least. If gaming down to 1ms response time, if not then up to 3ms is great. If you have a good graphics card then 1440p resolution. If not then 1080p is pretty good if you're happy with it but I would suggest definitely spending some money on the beef cause an investment into a monitor, you might as well be very fucking with what you're looking at haha.
Personally I have the RTX 4090, and my monitor is the Samsung Odyssey G9, I'm definitely look at the Neo G9 too but I think I'm gonna sit that one out, wait for the next generation in a couple of years.
Crazy to see where tech is going now but I'll be sticking with my 144hz 1440p pannel for the foreseeable future.
Naw u need atleast 240
agreed. with better spec it can go up to 240
Let them get to 1000Hz and 40000p. The higher the upper end technology is, the cheaper it is for us to buy good GPUs that can run 1440p.
@@diydylana3151 We're already way beyond the refresh rate capabilities of CRTs
Still on 60 Hz Squad
Congratulations LTT on bypassing ShortCircuit as most subscribed LMG channel
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Too bad he couldnt bypass hackers despite 2FA
Good joke, would have hit harder if I hadn't seen this or a variation on this at least 5 times already
@@sakihealthbars1341Well someone is going bypass their employee list for getting their session cookie stolen.
Oh this took me a minute to get 😂😂❤
I don’t know if it’s already going to be a thing at LTX (which I sadly can’t go to 😢) but a booth where people can actually experience 300-500 fps for themselves (and a video or short of their reactions) would be super cool.
no it wouldnt. Unless youre a nerd/pro, 99.999% of the population wont see the difference between 240 and 500 hz. I have a 240 hz monitor, and cant even tell the difference between 120 and 240.
@@Siduch.but comparing to 60 fps might be cool
@@Siduch. booo
@@Siduch. skill issue
@@Siduch. who do you think is going to LTX...
i remember when i bought my first 144hz. i was thinking about how in a few years 500hz was gonna exist this is crazy
I remember when 60hz was the big thing and everyone was all ohhh the human eye can see 60hz you can never go back to 30hz
@@DavyDave1313 i dont really notice much difference tbh
@@MiggggyI do. Instantly every time, with 60hz looking choppy to me. It's crazy how eyes adapt. I don't mind for anything that isn't fps gaming, though
@@Miggggy u need a doctor to check out ur eyes imagine going from a switch to a old gen xbox. Big difference
@@swervy_lmao your eyes adjust to light no matter the sped
LTT is the last channel I expected to get hacked.
WAN show is gonna be fun.
It's been happening to alot of UA-camrs.Most are not looking at what they are putting on their computer.Please stop clicking on links!!!!
Happened to be watching this video when I saw a post about it on Facebook and refreshed this page to come back to this.
gonna be the first time i show up in a while lol
@@TheInfamousLegend27 You seem so sure. It's pretty amusing.
Yeah
Very happy to see the channel is back to normal, hopefully no sensitive information was leaked with all the unlisted videos being published. Truly hope everyone on the team is able to sleep well after this, yikes.
I'm surprised they got full control of the situation and recovered everything "from the looks of it" was genuinely sad when i went on break and didn't see any Linus tech tip video suggestions.
What happened?
This just happened to them a few months ago. They've been prepared and have everything backed up and youtube will always come in and help them.
@hustlehumbly6169 someone on the team probably got phished, they lost control of a few channels which got renamed to tesla and started streams to scam people
@@acciuntxyz3462 completely missed this lol
Really happy to see the channel back in control.
We love you Linus. Keep fighting.
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@InTech like an hour ago
What happened?
@@midknight1978 they got hacked by those tesla crypto scams
who is he fighting?
The moving the camera to match the screen motion was the best comparison I've ever seen without having a higher frame rate screen watching or locked into UA-cam's frame rate
This has been happening to alot of channels lately, you would think Google would do something to prevent this from happening by now
Yeah, though if I recall correctly something like this could be caused by social engineering. Heard it happened to someone else and they got fooled by an email.
You'd think
@@Leona_tf most of the time it's through things like fake sponsorships
Yep. They’ve been getting rid off his videos too. At least making them not visible on the front page of the channel.
Elon Musk invaded LTT lol. Bad day at the LMG office
Iirc, the reason for the text readability problems on the OLED display is that it uses an RGBW subpixel layout, which is not assumed as an option while rendering in windows, causing text blurring. Microsoft is the one to blame for the text blur, but nobody can fix that except for Microsoft by issuing an update.
Not sure the GPU accelerated test they were running uses windows text rendering. It probably has its own implementation imported from some library. I bet whatever it is, it is not doing any subpixel stuff and assumes "perfect" pixels where all colors are in the exact same spot.
Do you know how the situation is on GNU/Linux?
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Congratulations on getting the channel back guys. I was worried for you, but I’m glad everything worked out.
the monitor footage still looks incredibly smooth even though the video isn't even at 60fps. Wow
This is a really well done video, good job. Sufficiently technical without turning the video into a 50 minute deep dive. New labs team paid off here.
I tried a 360 Hz monitor at micro center and while I did enjoy it I came back to my 144 Hertz monitor and said. I'm absolutely fine.
Diminishing returns is absolutely real when it comes to high refish rate monitors. I'm still very happy with my IPS panel. 1440p 144 Hertz with free sync is truly the sweet spot.
100% agree. I still use my Asus PG279Q which is 1440p, 165hz, IPS and G-Sync that I bought in 2014 I believe and to this day it still hold up.
I haven’t found a good reason to upgrade yet. Maybe once 4K 240hz OLED becomes affordable lol.
Trying it at micro center isnt going to do shit for you. You need to be on a powerful PC to be getting that 360hz steady and use it for more then a few minutes. 240hz is definitely noticeable over 144, and 360 is noticeable but definitely to a lesser degree.
No . 240hz IPS ist the sweet spot. It's not about seeing a smoother image. It's just to reduce input lag and 240hz hast by far the best input lag.
I have 60 4k, 144 1440p, 240 1080p and I'm a pretty casual gamer, 144 is the sweet spot for me but I bet if you were into more competitive, fast paced games 240 would be best and it feels nice
I could never go back from 360 hz to 144 every time but that’s just me
I think part of the reason the text is less legible on the LG OLED in the motion performance test is because the subpixel arrangement of OLED's tends to be non-standard to get a little more brightness. This can lead to text legibility issues because windows is set up for best performance with the RGB stripe subpixel arrangement that is standard to basically every LCD. At the moment there's no setting you can change to fix this in windows so it's a problem with basically every OLED display.
There is MacType, which replaces the font rendering system.
Wait the LG is pentile? Wouldn't that be covered by the fact that the resolution is higher though?
@@javianbrown8627 No, it's WRGB, there's a fourth, white sub-pixel in every pixel to help increase brightness.
i wonder why this video is unlisted? (oh they got hacked)
@@smith7602 MacType does't apply to all text on the system unfortunately.
Still rocking two AW2518H I bought in 2019. 240Hz is way enough for me and I don‘t mind the TN panel - also the design is much nicer imo
I love the feedback from the film crew in these recent videos. Their comments add a lot to the overall experience!
i wonder why this video is unlisted? (oh they got hacked)
At this point the diminishing returns are getting so small that is might be batter for the industry to pick a top end refresh rate and the focus o making other things better.
I'm not smart, but imagine if future hardware become so optimal that companies start to sell them through a subscription service. They would need to release perfect and durable products, since there would be no reason to release a better version, or else people would just switch brands.
Honestly once I get 4K 120 fps I’m good, besides in game graphics I really don’t see a need to go further than that, 8k seems pointless and I’m so used to sub 60 fps I don’t think I’ll even care much about fps.
@@roadrash2005 totally agree
But bigger number better
@@roadrash2005 Just make sure you get one with decent HDR. HDR is a huge visual improvement over SDR. My only gripes with HDR is having to deal with content creation. HDR is a pain in the ass to work with. 😅
I just wish they'd make innovations to make it simpler to work with HDR. The biggest innovation I've seen is HLG/S-log, makes HDR look good on any display, even SDR IIRC.
Real happy to see LTT doing comparisons to both the lg and the zombie in this video. Great competitors that many of us are truly looking at in this monitor category.
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I would also like to have a zombie monitor someday
they also got hacked
i wonder why this video is unlisted? (oh they got hacked)
Hertz isnt just about Seeing. Its about the connection between your Eye and your Arm (movement on screen) 1000hz is what we need for VR for it to be indistinguishable from reality for instance.
Where'd you pull that number from?
Lmao bro what ? You just talking up ur ass because the mvmt in VR games is far slower than PC games so you would never need that amount of refresh rate, it's like consoles where 30 and 60Hz is much more acceptable because of the controller's slow and continuous motion unlike the mouse where you go from point A to B in like 0.1s. Something like 240Hz in VR would already be indistinguishable from reality
@@Shockload Indistinguishable from reality would be 1000hz. Stop talking out or your a$s.
source: i made it the fuckk up
@@baderhh9928 go read the forum called blurbusters and talk to the actual guy that runs the site, you'll get schooled
Great to see a 360Hz TN panel used for comparison. A lot of people dismiss those as "old technology", but in eSports it's absolutely an option.
Finally he's back!
YO DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE YOU HERE GI GUY LMAO
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So glad the LMG crew and youtube could get the channel back up and running so quickly, hopefully this is the one time the algorithm is forgiving
That HighLANder clip at the beginning hits hard for me, I used to watch Tek Syndicate religiously before the controversy. I still love Wendell and his channel level1techs
Refresh rate and response lag are separate things though. It's possible to still have a monitor that lags even if it has infinite refresh rate. A more relevant concern about ultra fast refresh rate is when fast-moving objects are displayed so smoothly on screen that the motion blur caused by the human eye negates any benefit provided by fast refresh rate of the monitor.
I'd take high-contrast accurate screens like OLED over a +200hz monitor any day of the week. At that point you're reacting based more on intuition than your ability to distinguish individual frames anyways. Brightness contrast accuracy and low response lag is much more beneficial at that point. If only burn-in wasn't still an issue.
Infinite frame rate will solve motion blur caused by tracking a moving object with your eye though. But this can already be alleviated via backlight strobing.
Jet pilots could see up to 255hz 1 image out of 255 and tell what kind of plane it was. If i had to guess your brain can probably perceive 4 times that continuously. So 1000hz of smoothness and to extent low input latency. But that's probably going to be as high as monitors will go.
@@Andytlp Brain doesn't perceive visual signals in a discrete form (frames), so measuring perception in Hz is a waste of time.
@@chupasaurus yep idk why ppl dont understand our eyes see in light, that is our limit.
Nothing beats watching this on a notebook in Full HD at 60 FPS
Yeah, but the problem is that the video runs only at 30 fps lmao
They didn't even record 60fps video... you're getting 30
my 1366x768 display...
@@PCTutorialz i feel you, my laptop costs less than the keyboard i used to type this
Nothing beats watching this on a rtx 3070 ti as it is showing it to a 2013 60hz samsung monitor that can no longer turn off, button is broken.
It took us almost 7 years, but we are almost 1/3 of the way to the prototype 1700Hz display Nvidia showed off back in 2016.
Maybe we will get there by 2045 :D
We need more horsepower to drive it, though. Or it's all just about counterstrike and productivity.
@@Kholaslittlespot1 I believe there was a demo of doom eternal hitting 1000 fps a while back so it depends on the application I'd say
At this point the things holding back the monitors is just game optimization. It's basically just for CSGO because reaching that fps is crazy already. Probably need to use 720p, ultralow graphics, empty server, simple geometry, to get anywhere close
Unnecessary. Everything above 1000Hz is genuinely _beyond_ human ability to distinguish. Even above 500Hz humans can distinguish only very bright flashes and can process no visual information, but the perception of motion is still slightly affected by the frequency. At 1000Hz that goes away - the image appears perfectly smooth.
In reality everything above 240Hz is pretty pointless for _most_ people - but once you're above 1000Hz you might as well make displays that show ultraviolet. They'll be just as useful.
@@KillahMate but what about my cat? It's cute when he watches the mouse, so if he can see it... I'll buy.
The intro is exactly why I love Linus. Dude is a treasure lol
I learned of the hack when I tried to show your PC build guide to one of our geek squad clients, to help them install a mobo, only to find out I couldn't find any video from the channel. Def a surreal moment. Made us all appreciate these tech tips.
600Hz will be beneficial, not because it's faster but because it's divisible by almost any standard frame rate so never has to switch to a lower refresh rate for movies or whatever. Then we'll be at the same point we're already at with resolution, where there's literally no point in going higher
agreed. 600 for the winner of highly composite refresh rate
Non-OC refresh rate of the monitor is 480Hz. Divides very well.
Agreed because a divisible framerate is the best, but not agreed, because I don't think that you will notice, that one frame is 2ms shorter than the other, even if your movie has 120 fps (e.g. Gemini man). Even this would mean that 8 and 10ms long frame would follow each other, so you need a very sharp eye/mind to notice it. In a 60Hz video (UA-cam) it would mean 16 - 18ms, which I doubt very much that you would notice.
Or leave this one at 480Hz and don't OC it to 500Hz. Divisible by 24/30/48/60 as well
this is why the rog will be 540hz
Whoop whoop, glad to see the channel back up!
These are the top 3 monitors for motion clarity / eSports right now ... I'd like to see another test with top gamers trying them. I suspect the benq 360hz tn panel with bfi is the clearest / top choice which is a shame because I was rooting for oled because people claim the colors are nicer - (would like to see a blind test where users say which monitor colors they like best as well - not only motion tests)
The colours are only nicer when accompanied by a black/dark background on oled. It's because the black is smooth the colours fit much better. QLED's have the best colours but not as good blacks. I have one here and this thing is the most beautiful thing I've seen.
@@xenaisu you are delu qled is worse
@@Drykdap you clearly havent ever seen one lmfao
Glad to see ya’ll back
extremely happy to see your channel back
14:00 it doesn't have to be about reaction time. The screen being more readable when moving fast might still help you. When you're playing shooters you can 'scan' around you much faster. Think 'spinbotting' but not hacking just swinging mouse very fast and still being able to see enemies. It might also help with good ol flick shots.
yea I imagine it would take me less time to check my corners in games. I'm on a 1080/165 panel and it's pretty good but I will say it's kind of smeary when you want to flick 90-180 degrees to check your six. can't imagine the benefits of an OLED in these situations
This is what most people dont understand still lmao.
@@ayyorta God I wish the technology moved faster so I can finally get high refresh OLED gaming display for cheap.
Exactly. Good video but too much focus on input lag. The clarity as you pan the camera quickly is the true selling point of 500hz
same with the frog test, the benefits would've more apparent if it was running faster
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I’ve been literally trying to take that front panel of for years… And you sit on it and open it?! I tried it and it worked!! Thank you Linus for solving this problem with your butt
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I'm not surprised with the conclusion but I'll say that once we're at a point with all the components being able to essentially be refreshed at the same time I'd love to see you guys make the best setup you can and bring in an esports rep to showcase the build and try to essentially beat a record of thier own.
problems with that no one will be able to agree on who to bring in to be the rep. anyone over the age of 23 is pretty much out right away as astudy showed that anyone over 24 has worse reaction time then there 22 year old self as reaction times decrease with age. it is why teens think there grand parents are slow. it is because they are slower. the person will probably need to be over 18 for well legal reason's. so roughly a 4 year gap where they could possibly be chosen.
@@si2foo oh I'm aware but there's always going to be controversy on this streamer vs that. At that point you can't do anything so better to get something cool to share and those who "would have chose differently" will have their shot when they build their own brand to this point. It's not like Linus wouldn't try for the best that's doable anyway.
@@si2fooreaction time decreases with age, every year. Only around 1ms each year, so it’s not massive.
I think for filming high frame rate monitors, you should turn up the shutter speed (i.e. turn down the shutter angle). As it is, we see multiple frames on the monitor simultaneously. But since the shutter speed is around 1/60 s, there's no way to tell, how many frames are actual after images.
I want to clarify, going from say 2ms from 3ms per frame has an accumulative effect, I don't think people see frames but rather the frame pacing which is where the fluidity of smoothness comes from. I'm absolutely certain that people can see the difference in frame pacing all the way up around 500hz, however further increases in hz will still boost clarity of motion.
But you need the pixel switching to be responsive enough to actually drive the refresh rate, which is why Asus' TN Panel will likely be a lot better than this 500hz IPS panel.
Panasonic TC-P50U50 600hz subfield Oled has instant response time, then holds the color till next frame pops. Crt and plasmas work with glowing phosphor, this inherently smoothes motions.
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the 240hz oled is amazing. one of the biggest benefits as well is you only need to be getting 240fps to fully utilize it. the 360hz or 500hz monitor requires the game to be able to run at those frame rates to even get the full benefit. A lot of games struggle to hit that 500fps mark but have no issues hitting 240fps.
And even then they're IPS so they might be bottlenecked by the TN
Sure is, but still these will show much more frames in games that can run at those and above.
I've noticed the biggest thing isn't really how clear things are as much as how it feels. Your shots seem to land more the higher the hz. In a way it feels like less desync. That's been my experience.
Yes but this is only true up to 144Hz and in some rare situations 240hZ for pro gamer. The rest doesnt give you any benefit
Can't wait to get my hands on something over 70Hz for the first time ever next year. ^^
The standstill image showing the ghosting was much more useful than showing a video of the screen btw. I'd love to see that more often.
Glad the channel's back!!
Picked up the LG they compared with in January and I've been extremely happy with it. 500hz seems a bit overkill, especially given the worse pixel response time.
ordered mine today. can't wait. upgrading from a TN panel.
Just a bit... If you're a gamer it's pointless. How are you pushing 500fps in modern games, even with a top modern card.
@@Kholaslittlespot1 4090 + 13900k + playing on low graphics
+ bro prolly plays shooters
@@bilbert1031 yeah even then it's game specific. Valorant, CS, maybe OW... Def not Apex etc etc
@@Kholaslittlespot1 true, and even after a point (imo from 144-240), it isn’t worth going over due to the diminishing returns compared to the price point
I have the 360hz and bought it when it was $300 New on Amazon last year. Cleanest monitor I've ever used, hands down. Haven't had any issues either so far. If you can find it at a good price, I highly recommend it.
I'd like to see this high refresh rate technology in VR since that's where this will make the biggest difference
Exactly, thats where it will be a huge benefit since video is split combining into a single image
I like how so many people in the comments didn't even realize the channel was compromised.
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Impressive progress over the recent years. I remember 75 Hz being the best option you could get in a consumer LCD display a couple decades ago, and many preferred CRT solely because of their faster refresh.
There may be a niche market for this kind of displays, although you generally face diminishing returns beyond 144 Hz. Unless you need the least possible input lag or get rid of motion blur without strobing the backlight too much, you shouldn't probably need that many hertz in a display. According to the Nyquist-Shannon theorem, a display should be enough to update at twice the flicker fusion threshold, suggesting a range of 120 to 180 Hz.
I’m so happy I saved this vid so I can watch it unlisted while the rest of the channel is on fire
So happy the channel is the back, I was worried I would miss my tech tip of the day
You guys got hacked!?
I'm honestly surprised. If they can even get the biggest tech savvy channel around, no one is safe!!
wow judging by the still image at 9:03 I'd surprisingly choose the Alienware after staring this image down for 5 minutes... I did not see that coming. My immediate choice was middle, but after looking and looking and looking. I think there's something special about the very minor ghosting and much reduced hard lines in the Alienware compared to the Zowie. LG OLED is actually my least favored of this image, which is most surprising. I have always loved the look of LG OLED (even if they used to have some bad burn in) but Alienware won me over here
Totally agree, the image on the OLED looks downright blurry. I'd take the ghosting over that.
I'd suggest waiting until better variations of the 500hz monitors will release. You'd be wasting your money now if you wanted to buy one.
Never thought I'd see a tech channel like LTT be hacked.
Anyways it's good to see them back.
Considering ALL their employees are tech-savvy and work with PC's and are online all day, its actually kinda embarrassing. Opening up an email and DOWNLOADING an executable?, and then running it locally? That's the equivalent of falling for the Nigerian Prince scam in 2023. I'm surprised he didn't outright fire whoever did it. Again, all these guys are tech savvy, this' isn't a regular business, with normie employees who don't understand the internet. Who works with PC's and downloads and runs an .EXE file? I would legit fire the person immediately.
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I'm happy with my 240hz Samsung Curved g7 32". Ever since my first curved monitor, which admittedly did not last long I cannot go back. Though my first one was one of the earlier models but this one has been great.
I got the G9. Same experience, more view in 3d games that support it tho. I love it. Cant go back
Samsung never lasts 😂
@@yellomonky4272 I beg to differ and so do my older Samsung monitors that are now used for work. You do realize that Samsung and LG make most of the panels out there for these monitors right?
@@pietromoopy2010 bro the samsung monitors and TVs all get blemishes after a month its annoying as hell
@@pietromoopy2010 my g7 bit the dust in under 2 years. Great moniter but i avoided samsung on my next moniter
So glad to see my man Aperture Grille getting the attention he deserves. Man's the most die-hard monitor reviewer on UA-cam.
As a lifelong LTT fan I have to laugh at myself for watching videos I can't even truly see. And coming back to the video years down the road after purchasing the product. Proves how spot on they are. Equivalent to "trust me bro"
Thank god you got your channel back
I have 490 hz and definitely going to upgrade
I don't watch these guys very much, but when I do they get me good. I'm so glad they got their channel back.
Cant wait for 1000hz 4k OLED (or microLED) to hit the market.
1440p 120-165hz is the sweet spot for me,it's budget friendly and is good for both competitive and casual gaming,don't care too much for the added bells and whistles.
Variable refresh rate is a must, otherwise you won't see much of those 120Hz... and 32" is good for immersion. (Though 27" would be better for pixel density.) A curved display is better too at that size if it's not IPS or OLED.
Yep Linus was so excited with 1440p 165Hz IPS "God king"... way back in 2015. Everything since is unnecessary.
Channel is already back to normal I see! Congrats! I guess if this was a smaller channel it wouldn't have been nearly as quick.
I can't tell you how deep my heart sank when Linus said "what the hell is Fiesta."
"Sit up straight gamers" *immediately fixes posture*
Look who is BACK!
Thanks so much to the LTT group! I have been plagued by the shadows and overscan on my LG IPS and I downloaded the smoothfrog to try and figure it out. Setting my response time to FASTEST instead of FASTintroduced a MASSIVE amount of ghosting and even color smearing. And I couldn't notice all of those changes without that application. UFO test isn't as good as Smoothfrog :)
Now I can stop looking and going through my settings every other day!
It's great to see LTT pay respects to the lesser channels. Aperture Grille has consistently produced likely the most innovative testing on both Pixel-Response and Input-Response that has ever graced the face of UA-cam.
It's fascinating stuff once you discover that CRTs technically surpassed the LCDs of 2023 over 120 years ago at their initial conception. (First actual CRT display was 1922 but it would've been physically possible at initial conception assuming the need was immediately present.)
@@WaffleCake I was so torn when switching from my old HP CRT 16".
I use to play minecraft and Garry's mod on that, and could definitely feel the difference, even as a 10 year old!
You also cant forget the tickrate of those CS:GO and Valorant servers. Thise are limitations as well. CS2 wants to go a new way eliminating that. You might want to test it again with CS2.
Always wanted to see 500Hz panel review on 60Hz YT. Now I seen everything.
Nice thing about Displayport is no $10 license fee required for each HDMI port. :-) Only issue I had with it was blacking/blanking out on me every so often, when doing shopping for a new DP cable, discovered I was using the wrong cable, a 1.2 cable on a 1.4 GPU/Monitor causes random blackouts.
Even 1.4 cables can have those issues if you're unlucky... I paid 20+€ for a pretty short DP1.4 cable, because I needed one asap to fix this exact situation, and the options at the local shop were limited, and it still had that same issue. Ordered another 1.4 cable, this time a bit longer and costing like 5-10€, and it works perfectly... Really wishing LTT's cable tester would be put to good use, and we'd get results soon, no manufacturer seems trustworthy. =(
The channel is back wohoooooo
I love how their showing how good it looks meanwhile im watching this on a 60hz display
Don't worry, the video is 30 Hz 😅
@@AntonioNoack not to mention youtube compression
4:58 you taught me about display port cords. I never knew this was a thing! I was just going to hook up my new desktop with an HDMI OMG
I am waiting for a 35" QD-OLED for that ultra wide color space, with 1440x3440 and 360hz, and LEDs that can handle 200 nits for productivity without nearly the same risk of burn in as today's panels, and with cleartype fixed. I'd spend about $1200 for that, hopefully about 3-5 years out based on how quickly that tech is growing.
QD-Oled has far more burn in issues, Woled is Almost none existent for burn in problems.
Hell, I just want an OLED monitor that can do 4k (real 4k, not ultrawide). I haven't noticed much going to 120hz (or 240hz), but I certainly notice local dimming zones with actual HDR, and OLED's should be even more crisp.
I m glad you were able to restore this channel so fast after the hack.
Perfect now I will have no excuses to finally tell myself I suck at FPS , thanks Linus!
I would love a video talking about these bumps in quality and how much they are worth compared to their average cost to experience ratio.
For casual gaming, I'd rather stick to 120Hz to 240Hz OLED or IPS LCD 1440p display, but I gotta admit it's pretty impressive!
Here i do fine with 60hz 4k/1440p/1080p for casual..
@@koilamaoh4238 once you go higher you can never go back lol
@@koilamaoh4238 60hz is too low for modern games, once you see what 144 looks like you never want to go back. The difference above that gets harder to notice and you typically have to sacrifice image quality so 144 is the sweet spot right now
@Kekus Magnus lol exactly. even in smartphones you can notice it. went from a 60 hz phone screen to a 120 hz one and everything just feels smooth. when the battery gets low, it automatically changes to 60 hz and it is jarring
@@SevenMilliFrog barely notice it on my galaxy sam oled screen. Considering I don't game as heavily as i used to.. My games are light weight now a days like minecraft, terreraria, starbound, diablo II, and other indie ones, , with 3070/1080ti. I don't really wanna give up my older ips monitors, as they are close to oled when I compare, eventually ill upgrade my window 7 machine, as its my main.. 15 year old pc lol, can go another 10 years probably with its hardware. Have a win11/10 machines, meh, screws up my software that I use mainly.
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Doesn't look like it
Congrats on being second 🥈
The OLED text is probably a non standard pixel layout problem, not a motion problem.
I'm glad companies are putting in the work to make 500+hz a reality, but it won't be relevant to me until it's in OLED.
Well 480hz 1440p OLED now exists
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BFI is incredible. When done right it can make 60Hz look like 120Hz and 120Hz look like 240Hz.
My old Acer XB271HU had BFI in 120Hz mode and the clarity was *better* than the clarity of my new 240Hz OLED (the LG one you talk about in the video). Yes, the after-images take some getting-used-to, but particularly OLED monitors could do BFI without any of the drawbacks, they could just roll the line scan across the display in like 1/3 or 1/2 chunks and it would look amazing. Of course brightness is an issue, but particularly with OLED you can in theory have an arbitrary sample-and-hold time before you turn the frame black, for another arbitrary amount of time. That might not provide the full BFI effect, but it would still improve motion clarity
The only heads up to Linus' ads I ever get are via closed caption.
And for that reason, I never skip them. lol
Glad he managed to get his channel back in short order
WAN show is going to be interesting this week.
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Thank god his Chanel got restored I don’t know what I would’ve done if I couldn’t see his nice luscious Paul face
A very rare smooth transition to a sponsor
Only took one day to recover, well done team!
Welcome back LTT!
Great opportunity to make more videos on security and how to stay safe and how to keep your data safe!