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@@MiggggyI do. Instantly every time, with 60hz looking choppy to me. It's crazy how eyes adapt. I don't mind for anything that isn't fps gaming, though
I don’t know if it’s already going to be a thing at LTX (which I sadly can’t go to 😢) but a booth where people can actually experience 300-500 fps for themselves (and a video or short of their reactions) would be super cool.
no it wouldnt. Unless youre a nerd/pro, 99.999% of the population wont see the difference between 240 and 500 hz. I have a 240 hz monitor, and cant even tell the difference between 120 and 240.
I think that when your getting up to these crazy high refresh rates, the pixel response of oled becomes a must so that the pixels can keep up with what's being asked of them.
You "only“ need 2ms response times for 500hz, which this has, but the problem is it’s not a stable 2ms. So every time it goes above 2ms there are visual inconsistencies.
@@HibiTeamQueso Thus not exactly once it never reaches above 2ms. If this reaches 2ms and a little above I'm pretty sure you don't (Underline this word) "need" an oled to make it work, this is just the first version of it. QLED do from 2ms to 8ms and I have one here, much more beautiful and bright, as well as more than capable of running 240hz, so it can do 500hz. Plus it doesn't burn, so why spend money on an oled and pass out one day with your pc on in risk of wearing down the lifespan of your monitor.
@@deemedmfg It depends what you'd like to do on it. If you're going with games I'd definitely suggest looking into QLED it has amazing colours and is a direct competitor with OLED. However, from my experience I would much prefer OLED for creative purposes so if you're looking into creating art or graphic design etc. The reason for this is, on QLED you can really bring up the brightness, which gives you a lot more clarity while playing games. If HDR ever gets implemented properly in the future, you can bring the brightness up even higher, I'll mention Doom Eternal for this, when you teleport to a practice range at the beginning of the game, you're presented with a white screen that slides up on the monitor. When I saw that white screen, my soul also went up into the practice range, it was that bright.. Plus the monitor doesn't burn so all you have to worry about is dead pixels and energy consumption. Also trying to get something with 1000 nits in HDR. For OLED's however, the colours are also very beautiful but this is only because of how their true blacks compliment them. Like on QLED's, if I look at a fully black screen, I can tell it's grey because of the emitting light. On OLED's, it is fully black as if you turned your monitor off. The only caveat is that it cannot be as bright as it's competitor. As I mentioned before, that's what makes it a very good creative component. You get a lot more clarity in this field. Leaving your monitor on with this one however really shortens it's lifespan, it's the worst if you leave it on a static image as well. You might get a ghosting effect of that image while you go do other things. Both are really good choices as there are plenty of options, sorry for the thesis, that's just me lmao. If I knew your reason for getting it I would be able to be more specific. My recommendation, one of those two but with 165Hz refresh rate at least. If gaming down to 1ms response time, if not then up to 3ms is great. If you have a good graphics card then 1440p resolution. If not then 1080p is pretty good if you're happy with it but I would suggest definitely spending some money on the beef cause an investment into a monitor, you might as well be very fucking with what you're looking at haha. Personally I have the RTX 4090, and my monitor is the Samsung Odyssey G9, I'm definitely look at the Neo G9 too but I think I'm gonna sit that one out, wait for the next generation in a couple of years.
Very happy to see the channel is back to normal, hopefully no sensitive information was leaked with all the unlisted videos being published. Truly hope everyone on the team is able to sleep well after this, yikes.
I'm surprised they got full control of the situation and recovered everything "from the looks of it" was genuinely sad when i went on break and didn't see any Linus tech tip video suggestions.
@hustlehumbly6169 someone on the team probably got phished, they lost control of a few channels which got renamed to tesla and started streams to scam people
Yeah, though if I recall correctly something like this could be caused by social engineering. Heard it happened to someone else and they got fooled by an email.
At this point the diminishing returns are getting so small that is might be batter for the industry to pick a top end refresh rate and the focus o making other things better.
I'm not smart, but imagine if future hardware become so optimal that companies start to sell them through a subscription service. They would need to release perfect and durable products, since there would be no reason to release a better version, or else people would just switch brands.
Honestly once I get 4K 120 fps I’m good, besides in game graphics I really don’t see a need to go further than that, 8k seems pointless and I’m so used to sub 60 fps I don’t think I’ll even care much about fps.
@@roadrash2005 Just make sure you get one with decent HDR. HDR is a huge visual improvement over SDR. My only gripes with HDR is having to deal with content creation. HDR is a pain in the ass to work with. 😅 I just wish they'd make innovations to make it simpler to work with HDR. The biggest innovation I've seen is HLG/S-log, makes HDR look good on any display, even SDR IIRC.
It took us almost 7 years, but we are almost 1/3 of the way to the prototype 1700Hz display Nvidia showed off back in 2016. Maybe we will get there by 2045 :D
At this point the things holding back the monitors is just game optimization. It's basically just for CSGO because reaching that fps is crazy already. Probably need to use 720p, ultralow graphics, empty server, simple geometry, to get anywhere close
Unnecessary. Everything above 1000Hz is genuinely _beyond_ human ability to distinguish. Even above 500Hz humans can distinguish only very bright flashes and can process no visual information, but the perception of motion is still slightly affected by the frequency. At 1000Hz that goes away - the image appears perfectly smooth. In reality everything above 240Hz is pretty pointless for _most_ people - but once you're above 1000Hz you might as well make displays that show ultraviolet. They'll be just as useful.
Iirc, the reason for the text readability problems on the OLED display is that it uses an RGBW subpixel layout, which is not assumed as an option while rendering in windows, causing text blurring. Microsoft is the one to blame for the text blur, but nobody can fix that except for Microsoft by issuing an update.
Not sure the GPU accelerated test they were running uses windows text rendering. It probably has its own implementation imported from some library. I bet whatever it is, it is not doing any subpixel stuff and assumes "perfect" pixels where all colors are in the exact same spot.
That's a good point. With more refresh, if your GPU can push it, then you'd get more available frames for G-sync to choose from that are closer to the next frame refresh? The perception would be in microseconds! But it is more accurate. So, the question - "why would you need any technology that generates information above that which your senses aren't able to discern?" It's a good question but the answer is actually more complicated than you'd think. I work in audio and my studio has a pair of Tannoy monitors that have what they call 'super tweeters' that are capable of reproducing frequencies above the 20khz human hearing limit. The theory is that sound waves still interact with themselves and will affect lower frequencies that you can hear. Real sound in reality has frequencies all over the place, lower and higher than we can hear. We use subwoofers that go down below hearing and into 'feeling'. Audio recording standards are really interesting - oversampling in digital audio is essential (this is where the audio is temporarily upsampled to hugely higher frequency range beyond human hearing - 96khz and above. Also, the nyquist theory states that processing audio that affects frequencies at the limit of the recording format (To reproduce the highest audible human frequency around 22khz you need double the sample rate - CD Quality is 44.1Khz ) you will get artefacts, audio aliasing and distortion near the limit that can 'fold' down into audible frequencies. Also, if you're time stretching a lot of audio, it sounds awful even at sample rates the same as your listening and playback settings. Upsampling audio from 44.1 to 88.2khz, times stretching or adding effects, then down sampling back to your playback rates - will sound hugely better, even though you haven't added any more information. In this case, interpolation works perfectly to add information that is noticable. I know this was off topic about audio, but a lot of this applies to video application as well. Especially as we've seen AI upscaling work really well on modern GPUs
AVG person reaction in games in much faster then 250ms... especially for pros and wanna bees. I'm not a pro and i can get 140ms reaction time, avg 160ms and i got about 20 to 30ms better after i improved my peripherals a few months ago (280hz monitor and 1,5ms mouse)
You also cant forget the tickrate of those CS:GO and Valorant servers. Thise are limitations as well. CS2 wants to go a new way eliminating that. You might want to test it again with CS2.
Alienware makes the best monitors, although i wouldn't give a kidney for them. There are great monitors out there for extremely cheap. Samung makes reasonably priced monitors that are pretty decent. You can get a good ips panel display from samung for like R2300 wich is like 150$
Real happy to see LTT doing comparisons to both the lg and the zombie in this video. Great competitors that many of us are truly looking at in this monitor category.
I think part of the reason the text is less legible on the LG OLED in the motion performance test is because the subpixel arrangement of OLED's tends to be non-standard to get a little more brightness. This can lead to text legibility issues because windows is set up for best performance with the RGB stripe subpixel arrangement that is standard to basically every LCD. At the moment there's no setting you can change to fix this in windows so it's a problem with basically every OLED display.
I tried a 360 Hz monitor at micro center and while I did enjoy it I came back to my 144 Hertz monitor and said. I'm absolutely fine. Diminishing returns is absolutely real when it comes to high refish rate monitors. I'm still very happy with my IPS panel. 1440p 144 Hertz with free sync is truly the sweet spot.
100% agree. I still use my Asus PG279Q which is 1440p, 165hz, IPS and G-Sync that I bought in 2014 I believe and to this day it still hold up. I haven’t found a good reason to upgrade yet. Maybe once 4K 240hz OLED becomes affordable lol.
Trying it at micro center isnt going to do shit for you. You need to be on a powerful PC to be getting that 360hz steady and use it for more then a few minutes. 240hz is definitely noticeable over 144, and 360 is noticeable but definitely to a lesser degree.
I have 60 4k, 144 1440p, 240 1080p and I'm a pretty casual gamer, 144 is the sweet spot for me but I bet if you were into more competitive, fast paced games 240 would be best and it feels nice
2:26 It looks like blurry shit to me lol. I wish you would do 60fps videos. Looks so much better when showing off tech, and while you obviously still won't be able to see anywhere near what 500fps looks like, at least the viewing experience will be better.
600Hz will be beneficial, not because it's faster but because it's divisible by almost any standard frame rate so never has to switch to a lower refresh rate for movies or whatever. Then we'll be at the same point we're already at with resolution, where there's literally no point in going higher
Agreed because a divisible framerate is the best, but not agreed, because I don't think that you will notice, that one frame is 2ms shorter than the other, even if your movie has 120 fps (e.g. Gemini man). Even this would mean that 8 and 10ms long frame would follow each other, so you need a very sharp eye/mind to notice it. In a 60Hz video (UA-cam) it would mean 16 - 18ms, which I doubt very much that you would notice.
We have gotten too used to having a higher MS delay, after we got Flatscreens, than CRT. We now need to get used to optimal fast screens ---- AGAIN. Let the technology evolve. We need it faster, as it used to be. Period. The talk about "what we can manage/human eye can see/we as humans can perform". needs to stop. it's always the same, and it can continue as long as the unpatiance human-mind, continues, to simply not have patiance, and wants to constantly "discuss", weither we can " manage/human eye can see/we as humans can perform"" Just stop that talk. and begin to feel the differences. And let us expand!
nobody in any of these videos ever mentions or does what these monitors would excel at...... FAST turning clarity. I mean 180 degree turns executed really fast... they often test it by moving the screen like 2-30 degrees where the differences are imperceptable... but the biggest difference is notieable at the highest refreshes with FAST motion, with LARGE turning radii at FAST speeds. Games like apex legends or titan fall or other arena shooters where you need to turn quickly or track things quickly would benefit the most from high refresh rates and and greater motion clarity where something like 500 Hz really would shine. Testing CS go for 360 hz + high refresh rate is pretty much just pointless. Test it on fast paced moving and tracking games instead and examine TURNING clarity. i think people would instantly see the difference between each panel.
It's 1080P though !!! I mean why do we care about old technology just cuz it has 500hz refresh rate ! I'd rather have a brand new Ferrari with 600 horsepower vs an old 1967 Chevy Nova that has 800 horsepower ! Now if you make a video with a 4K at 500hz at 1ms latency then that's a video to make.
120hz > 60hz Mild headache 144hz > 60hz Migrene 240hz > 60hz violently vomiting 360hz > 60hz epilectic seisure 500hz > 60hz instant and painful death Once above 60, you never go back. Be safe out there!
14:00 it doesn't have to be about reaction time. The screen being more readable when moving fast might still help you. When you're playing shooters you can 'scan' around you much faster. Think 'spinbotting' but not hacking just swinging mouse very fast and still being able to see enemies. It might also help with good ol flick shots.
yea I imagine it would take me less time to check my corners in games. I'm on a 1080/165 panel and it's pretty good but I will say it's kind of smeary when you want to flick 90-180 degrees to check your six. can't imagine the benefits of an OLED in these situations
Ffs guys, use a high speed camera to show the difference between the monitors already. I’m not going to be able to see the difference between a 240Hz monitor and a 500Hz one on a 60/90/120Hz phone screen. Zoom in and slow it down.
What do you think of a 500Hz refresh rate on your monitor? How much of a difference do you think it makes? Let us know down below!
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Not even a 1000Hz monitor gonna help if you suck at playing Counterstrike 😅
Its better than 60hz.. although everything is better than 60hz.
It’s 1080p, so that disqualifies it for me. 144hz is already butter, and since I don’t play esports title competitively, my 1440p monitor is perfect.
Trying to see Linus demonstrate the benefits of a 500Hz monitor on a 60Hz phone
With 30 fps video
You need to upgrade im trying to see them on my 120hz phone
i mean youtube only plays 60fps max anyway so yeah lol
more like 30hz because the video on 30 fps
@@itchiegames UA-cam needs to upgrade 💁
Great, now we can see our 0.05 kd 500 times per second!
Brutal😢
Real
0.06 actually 😂😂😂😂
Heck yeah .05 crew here
sad reality
Surprised how fast that took to get the channel back into LTT's control. If this was for smaller creators it would usuallly take days.
isn't that obvious cause larger channels would have a larger viewerbase and more help from yt?
@Zaydan Alfariz but are they hacked lmao?
It’s most likely that he has connections to people at google
@@RandomChannel4Kids absolutely, creator UA-cam partnership, especially being a tech channel, good on Google/UA-cam for helping them out!
Days? Hahahahaha.
If it's a smaller channel, and if it's not large enough, don't expect any kind of help.
i remember when i bought my first 144hz. i was thinking about how in a few years 500hz was gonna exist this is crazy
I remember when 60hz was the big thing and everyone was all ohhh the human eye can see 60hz you can never go back to 30hz
@@DavyDave1313 i dont really notice much difference tbh
@@MiggggyI do. Instantly every time, with 60hz looking choppy to me. It's crazy how eyes adapt. I don't mind for anything that isn't fps gaming, though
@@Miggggy u need a doctor to check out ur eyes imagine going from a switch to a old gen xbox. Big difference
@@swervy_lmao your eyes adjust to light no matter the sped
Crazy to see where tech is going now but I'll be sticking with my 144hz 1440p pannel for the foreseeable future.
Naw u need atleast 240
agreed. with better spec it can go up to 240
Let them get to 1000Hz and 40000p. The higher the upper end technology is, the cheaper it is for us to buy good GPUs that can run 1440p.
@@diydylana3151 We're already way beyond the refresh rate capabilities of CRTs
Still on 60 Hz Squad
Congratulations LTT on bypassing ShortCircuit as most subscribed LMG channel
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Too bad he couldnt bypass hackers despite 2FA
Good joke, would have hit harder if I hadn't seen this or a variation on this at least 5 times already
@@sakihealthbars1341Well someone is going bypass their employee list for getting their session cookie stolen.
Oh this took me a minute to get 😂😂❤
I don’t know if it’s already going to be a thing at LTX (which I sadly can’t go to 😢) but a booth where people can actually experience 300-500 fps for themselves (and a video or short of their reactions) would be super cool.
no it wouldnt. Unless youre a nerd/pro, 99.999% of the population wont see the difference between 240 and 500 hz. I have a 240 hz monitor, and cant even tell the difference between 120 and 240.
@@Siduch.but comparing to 60 fps might be cool
@@Siduch. booo
@@Siduch. skill issue
@@Siduch. who do you think is going to LTX...
I think that when your getting up to these crazy high refresh rates, the pixel response of oled becomes a must so that the pixels can keep up with what's being asked of them.
You "only“ need 2ms response times for 500hz, which this has, but the problem is it’s not a stable 2ms. So every time it goes above 2ms there are visual inconsistencies.
@@rabidlorax1650thus you need oled
@@HibiTeamQueso Thus not exactly once it never reaches above 2ms. If this reaches 2ms and a little above I'm pretty sure you don't (Underline this word) "need" an oled to make it work, this is just the first version of it. QLED do from 2ms to 8ms and I have one here, much more beautiful and bright, as well as more than capable of running 240hz, so it can do 500hz. Plus it doesn't burn, so why spend money on an oled and pass out one day with your pc on in risk of wearing down the lifespan of your monitor.
@@xenaisu what monitor would you recommend
@@deemedmfg It depends what you'd like to do on it. If you're going with games I'd definitely suggest looking into QLED it has amazing colours and is a direct competitor with OLED. However, from my experience I would much prefer OLED for creative purposes so if you're looking into creating art or graphic design etc.
The reason for this is, on QLED you can really bring up the brightness, which gives you a lot more clarity while playing games. If HDR ever gets implemented properly in the future, you can bring the brightness up even higher, I'll mention Doom Eternal for this, when you teleport to a practice range at the beginning of the game, you're presented with a white screen that slides up on the monitor. When I saw that white screen, my soul also went up into the practice range, it was that bright..
Plus the monitor doesn't burn so all you have to worry about is dead pixels and energy consumption. Also trying to get something with 1000 nits in HDR.
For OLED's however, the colours are also very beautiful but this is only because of how their true blacks compliment them. Like on QLED's, if I look at a fully black screen, I can tell it's grey because of the emitting light. On OLED's, it is fully black as if you turned your monitor off. The only caveat is that it cannot be as bright as it's competitor. As I mentioned before, that's what makes it a very good creative component. You get a lot more clarity in this field. Leaving your monitor on with this one however really shortens it's lifespan, it's the worst if you leave it on a static image as well. You might get a ghosting effect of that image while you go do other things.
Both are really good choices as there are plenty of options, sorry for the thesis, that's just me lmao. If I knew your reason for getting it I would be able to be more specific.
My recommendation, one of those two but with 165Hz refresh rate at least. If gaming down to 1ms response time, if not then up to 3ms is great. If you have a good graphics card then 1440p resolution. If not then 1080p is pretty good if you're happy with it but I would suggest definitely spending some money on the beef cause an investment into a monitor, you might as well be very fucking with what you're looking at haha.
Personally I have the RTX 4090, and my monitor is the Samsung Odyssey G9, I'm definitely look at the Neo G9 too but I think I'm gonna sit that one out, wait for the next generation in a couple of years.
LTT is the last channel I expected to get hacked.
WAN show is gonna be fun.
It's been happening to alot of UA-camrs.Most are not looking at what they are putting on their computer.Please stop clicking on links!!!!
Happened to be watching this video when I saw a post about it on Facebook and refreshed this page to come back to this.
gonna be the first time i show up in a while lol
@@TheInfamousLegend27 You seem so sure. It's pretty amusing.
Yeah
Very happy to see the channel is back to normal, hopefully no sensitive information was leaked with all the unlisted videos being published. Truly hope everyone on the team is able to sleep well after this, yikes.
I'm surprised they got full control of the situation and recovered everything "from the looks of it" was genuinely sad when i went on break and didn't see any Linus tech tip video suggestions.
What happened?
This just happened to them a few months ago. They've been prepared and have everything backed up and youtube will always come in and help them.
@hustlehumbly6169 someone on the team probably got phished, they lost control of a few channels which got renamed to tesla and started streams to scam people
@@acciuntxyz3462 completely missed this lol
Linus Tesla Tips 💀
Ha ha ha. 😐
Lmao
Pointless without 500 frames
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Broke gamers don't get 500hz plus
I only get 700 fps in minecraft when my cpu let's me
@@Greedy-Allayi get that on csgo
@@Greedy-Allaycs2*
This has been happening to alot of channels lately, you would think Google would do something to prevent this from happening by now
Yeah, though if I recall correctly something like this could be caused by social engineering. Heard it happened to someone else and they got fooled by an email.
You'd think
@@Leona_tf most of the time it's through things like fake sponsorships
Yep. They’ve been getting rid off his videos too. At least making them not visible on the front page of the channel.
Elon Musk invaded LTT lol. Bad day at the LMG office
Looks like Elon's UA-cam got hacked and turned into a tech channel
Yeah this guy definitely looks like a crypto scammer, I hope Elon gets his channel back
ngl i like this tech scammer dude but hope elon gets hes channel back
Nothing beats watching this on a notebook in Full HD at 60 FPS
Yeah, but the problem is that the video runs only at 30 fps lmao
They didn't even record 60fps video... you're getting 30
my 1366x768 display...
@@PCTutorialz i feel you, my laptop costs less than the keyboard i used to type this
Nothing beats watching this on a rtx 3070 ti as it is showing it to a 2013 60hz samsung monitor that can no longer turn off, button is broken.
Double it and give it to the next person
Great video, Tesla.
Take your bets on which employee fell for a phishing attack.
At this point the diminishing returns are getting so small that is might be batter for the industry to pick a top end refresh rate and the focus o making other things better.
I'm not smart, but imagine if future hardware become so optimal that companies start to sell them through a subscription service. They would need to release perfect and durable products, since there would be no reason to release a better version, or else people would just switch brands.
Honestly once I get 4K 120 fps I’m good, besides in game graphics I really don’t see a need to go further than that, 8k seems pointless and I’m so used to sub 60 fps I don’t think I’ll even care much about fps.
@@roadrash2005 totally agree
But bigger number better
@@roadrash2005 Just make sure you get one with decent HDR. HDR is a huge visual improvement over SDR. My only gripes with HDR is having to deal with content creation. HDR is a pain in the ass to work with. 😅
I just wish they'd make innovations to make it simpler to work with HDR. The biggest innovation I've seen is HLG/S-log, makes HDR look good on any display, even SDR IIRC.
Really happy to see the channel back in control.
We love you Linus. Keep fighting.
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@InTech like an hour ago
What happened?
@@midknight1978 they got hacked by those tesla crypto scams
who is he fighting?
1440p 240-360Hz is much better.
LinusHackedTips
yikes
@@ThunderDraws oofa doofa...
If only linus used today's sponser nord vpn
VPN's do nothing to mitigate this
It took us almost 7 years, but we are almost 1/3 of the way to the prototype 1700Hz display Nvidia showed off back in 2016.
Maybe we will get there by 2045 :D
We need more horsepower to drive it, though. Or it's all just about counterstrike and productivity.
@@Kholaslittlespot1 I believe there was a demo of doom eternal hitting 1000 fps a while back so it depends on the application I'd say
At this point the things holding back the monitors is just game optimization. It's basically just for CSGO because reaching that fps is crazy already. Probably need to use 720p, ultralow graphics, empty server, simple geometry, to get anywhere close
Unnecessary. Everything above 1000Hz is genuinely _beyond_ human ability to distinguish. Even above 500Hz humans can distinguish only very bright flashes and can process no visual information, but the perception of motion is still slightly affected by the frequency. At 1000Hz that goes away - the image appears perfectly smooth.
In reality everything above 240Hz is pretty pointless for _most_ people - but once you're above 1000Hz you might as well make displays that show ultraviolet. They'll be just as useful.
@@KillahMate but what about my cat? It's cute when he watches the mouse, so if he can see it... I'll buy.
It really hurts me that such a big tech channel doesn't know how to fix crosstalk and how to use BFI effectively. :(
You guys got hacked!?
I'm honestly surprised. If they can even get the biggest tech savvy channel around, no one is safe!!
RIP LInus' Channel.
How did it get hacked like this?
Phishing email
It's getting pretty common these days
It's getting fixed as we speak
Only legends are watching at 30 hertz
This is a really well done video, good job. Sufficiently technical without turning the video into a 50 minute deep dive. New labs team paid off here.
Iirc, the reason for the text readability problems on the OLED display is that it uses an RGBW subpixel layout, which is not assumed as an option while rendering in windows, causing text blurring. Microsoft is the one to blame for the text blur, but nobody can fix that except for Microsoft by issuing an update.
Not sure the GPU accelerated test they were running uses windows text rendering. It probably has its own implementation imported from some library. I bet whatever it is, it is not doing any subpixel stuff and assumes "perfect" pixels where all colors are in the exact same spot.
Do you know how the situation is on GNU/Linux?
@@oznerol256true
This monitor will work great with 17Hz servers in CoD... or basically every online fps game🙃
mostly bs because ltt does not upload in 60fps
DAMMIT, now my favourite Tesla-coin / Elon Untrust / Etheri-scam channel has been hacked - and taken over by this weird tech fetish channel! 🤣
What happened to? The channel turned into a crypto scam and then it disappeared. Then it really appeared with all random all videos.
Channel got hacked
The 240 Hz ones look probably better to the human eye because 240 Hz could be the sweet spot for the eye and brain to process it clearly
That's a good point.
With more refresh, if your GPU can push it, then you'd get more available frames for G-sync to choose from that are closer to the next frame refresh?
The perception would be in microseconds! But it is more accurate.
So, the question - "why would you need any technology that generates information above that which your senses aren't able to discern?"
It's a good question but the answer is actually more complicated than you'd think.
I work in audio and my studio has a pair of Tannoy monitors that have what they call 'super tweeters' that are capable of reproducing frequencies above the 20khz human hearing limit.
The theory is that sound waves still interact with themselves and will affect lower frequencies that you can hear. Real sound in reality has frequencies all over the place, lower and higher than we can hear. We use subwoofers that go down below hearing and into 'feeling'.
Audio recording standards are really interesting - oversampling in digital audio is essential (this is where the audio is temporarily upsampled to hugely higher frequency range beyond human hearing - 96khz and above.
Also, the nyquist theory states that processing audio that affects frequencies at the limit of the recording format (To reproduce the highest audible human frequency around 22khz you need double the sample rate - CD Quality is 44.1Khz ) you will get artefacts, audio aliasing and distortion near the limit that can 'fold' down into audible frequencies.
Also, if you're time stretching a lot of audio, it sounds awful even at sample rates the same as your listening and playback settings. Upsampling audio from 44.1 to 88.2khz, times stretching or adding effects, then down sampling back to your playback rates - will sound hugely better, even though you haven't added any more information. In this case, interpolation works perfectly to add information that is noticable.
I know this was off topic about audio, but a lot of this applies to video application as well. Especially as we've seen AI upscaling work really well on modern GPUs
@@MOSMASTERING Damn, thanks for the essay. Good thoughts
Me at 2:58 with my 60hz monitor:
ah yes, blurry frogs
Guys Bitcoin is BACK baby. Elon said so
😂I don't know if this is sarcastic or not but he was hacked and it's a scam
NOO YOU GOT HACKED
What happened
Yo how tf did Linus get hacked
AVG person reaction in games in much faster then 250ms... especially for pros and wanna bees. I'm not a pro and i can get 140ms reaction time, avg 160ms and i got about 20 to 30ms better after i improved my peripherals a few months ago (280hz monitor and 1,5ms mouse)
Oh shit, LTT got hacked
I have 490 hz and definitely going to upgrade
Looks like the videos are only unlisted.
at least make the video 60 hz
at leaaaast
Linus u got hacked again
Again?
@@b5x057 yes
You also cant forget the tickrate of those CS:GO and Valorant servers. Thise are limitations as well. CS2 wants to go a new way eliminating that. You might want to test it again with CS2.
Only real ones will remember when this was Tesla Tech Tips.
i am one
Prices in my country is ridiculous
600-900$ for 360Hz
And for an 240Hz with 4K it’s 1200$
500Hz is probably 1800$
Funny, this video shows up the same day Counter Strike 2 is shown off...
This is going to be a great wan show this week
tech almost didn't survive without tips :,(
I'm glad companies are putting in the work to make 500+hz a reality, but it won't be relevant to me until it's in OLED.
Well 480hz 1440p OLED now exists
its back :)
You were first. 🎉
First person!
Congrats on being the first!
Lesgo
Congratulations on getting the channel back guys. I was worried for you, but I’m glad everything worked out.
Did this channel got hacked?
Yes
Yesirr
Alienware makes the best monitors, although i wouldn't give a kidney for them. There are great monitors out there for extremely cheap. Samung makes reasonably priced monitors that are pretty decent. You can get a good ips panel display from samung for like R2300 wich is like 150$
Real happy to see LTT doing comparisons to both the lg and the zombie in this video. Great competitors that many of us are truly looking at in this monitor category.
ua-cam.com/video/ibEN9FTLdkI/v-deo.html
I would also like to have a zombie monitor someday
they also got hacked
i wonder why this video is unlisted? (oh they got hacked)
I think part of the reason the text is less legible on the LG OLED in the motion performance test is because the subpixel arrangement of OLED's tends to be non-standard to get a little more brightness. This can lead to text legibility issues because windows is set up for best performance with the RGB stripe subpixel arrangement that is standard to basically every LCD. At the moment there's no setting you can change to fix this in windows so it's a problem with basically every OLED display.
There is MacType, which replaces the font rendering system.
Wait the LG is pentile? Wouldn't that be covered by the fact that the resolution is higher though?
@@javianbrown8627 No, it's WRGB, there's a fourth, white sub-pixel in every pixel to help increase brightness.
i wonder why this video is unlisted? (oh they got hacked)
@@smith7602 MacType does't apply to all text on the system unfortunately.
WAN show is going to be interesting this week.
true
Zowies DyAC is nasty how sharp it can make images seem but realistically My ideal would be a 360hz QDOLED @ 1440p
Qled looks identical to any normal tv or IPs display trust me
I tried a 360 Hz monitor at micro center and while I did enjoy it I came back to my 144 Hertz monitor and said. I'm absolutely fine.
Diminishing returns is absolutely real when it comes to high refish rate monitors. I'm still very happy with my IPS panel. 1440p 144 Hertz with free sync is truly the sweet spot.
100% agree. I still use my Asus PG279Q which is 1440p, 165hz, IPS and G-Sync that I bought in 2014 I believe and to this day it still hold up.
I haven’t found a good reason to upgrade yet. Maybe once 4K 240hz OLED becomes affordable lol.
Trying it at micro center isnt going to do shit for you. You need to be on a powerful PC to be getting that 360hz steady and use it for more then a few minutes. 240hz is definitely noticeable over 144, and 360 is noticeable but definitely to a lesser degree.
No . 240hz IPS ist the sweet spot. It's not about seeing a smoother image. It's just to reduce input lag and 240hz hast by far the best input lag.
I have 60 4k, 144 1440p, 240 1080p and I'm a pretty casual gamer, 144 is the sweet spot for me but I bet if you were into more competitive, fast paced games 240 would be best and it feels nice
I could never go back from 360 hz to 144 every time but that’s just me
Where's Elon? I want to learn more about bitcoins!
Where's my bitcoin, Musk? And why are you pretending to be a tech channel?
Jokes aside... Good to see you back, LTT. Ehhh... What a day...
yup linus got hacked
2:26 It looks like blurry shit to me lol. I wish you would do 60fps videos. Looks so much better when showing off tech, and while you obviously still won't be able to see anywhere near what 500fps looks like, at least the viewing experience will be better.
yep. painful
Finally he's back!
YO DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE YOU HERE GI GUY LMAO
Lol 3rd like
4th like😄
You're not Elon Musk wtf who Is this guy
I fear for Colton's job now.
4K at 120hz or 2k at 165hz is still better than idiotic low resolution 1080p at any quantity of fps lol
Facts
Next video: Linus tracks down and roasts hackers setup
600Hz will be beneficial, not because it's faster but because it's divisible by almost any standard frame rate so never has to switch to a lower refresh rate for movies or whatever. Then we'll be at the same point we're already at with resolution, where there's literally no point in going higher
agreed. 600 for the winner of highly composite refresh rate
Non-OC refresh rate of the monitor is 480Hz. Divides very well.
Agreed because a divisible framerate is the best, but not agreed, because I don't think that you will notice, that one frame is 2ms shorter than the other, even if your movie has 120 fps (e.g. Gemini man). Even this would mean that 8 and 10ms long frame would follow each other, so you need a very sharp eye/mind to notice it. In a 60Hz video (UA-cam) it would mean 16 - 18ms, which I doubt very much that you would notice.
Or leave this one at 480Hz and don't OC it to 500Hz. Divisible by 24/30/48/60 as well
this is why the rog will be 540hz
LTT was hacked. Oh my
Well this video is taken private
Not going so well
Multiple videos have been taken private in a few minutes
@@kriss.- oh shit
the monitor footage still looks incredibly smooth even though the video isn't even at 60fps. Wow
NOOO THEY GOT HIM, THEY GOT LINUS
Looks like your precious VPN didn't keep you from getting hacked horribly. Not surprised.
Think I'll stick with my 144hz 4k panel and wait for GPUs to catch up with it
We have gotten too used to having a higher MS delay, after we got Flatscreens, than CRT.
We now need to get used to optimal fast screens ---- AGAIN.
Let the technology evolve. We need it faster, as it used to be.
Period.
The talk about "what we can manage/human eye can see/we as humans can perform". needs to stop. it's always the same, and it can continue as long as the unpatiance human-mind, continues, to simply not have patiance, and wants to constantly "discuss", weither we can " manage/human eye can see/we as humans can perform""
Just stop that talk. and begin to feel the differences.
And let us expand!
I like how so many people in the comments didn't even realize the channel was compromised.
How could you get yourself hacked. This channel? Really?
Anyone can get hacked. And so can you.
nobody in any of these videos ever mentions or does what these monitors would excel at...... FAST turning clarity. I mean 180 degree turns executed really fast... they often test it by moving the screen like 2-30 degrees where the differences are imperceptable... but the biggest difference is notieable at the highest refreshes with FAST motion, with LARGE turning radii at FAST speeds. Games like apex legends or titan fall or other arena shooters where you need to turn quickly or track things quickly would benefit the most from high refresh rates and and greater motion clarity where something like 500 Hz really would shine. Testing CS go for 360 hz + high refresh rate is pretty much just pointless. Test it on fast paced moving and tracking games instead and examine TURNING clarity. i think people would instantly see the difference between each panel.
yep
I think you have been hacked
Thank god his Chanel got restored I don’t know what I would’ve done if I couldn’t see his nice luscious Paul face
It's 1080P though !!! I mean why do we care about old technology just cuz it has 500hz refresh rate ! I'd rather have a brand new Ferrari with 600 horsepower vs an old 1967 Chevy Nova that has 800 horsepower ! Now if you make a video with a 4K at 500hz at 1ms latency then that's a video to make.
This channel got hacked??
Welcome back. Is Colton fired?
The wan show this week is gonna go crazy
lmao was thinkin the same thing
120hz > 60hz Mild headache
144hz > 60hz Migrene
240hz > 60hz violently vomiting
360hz > 60hz epilectic seisure
500hz > 60hz instant and painful death
Once above 60, you never go back. Be safe out there!
WAN show is gonna be pretty interesting
Did LTT just get hacked?
Yep. Here's hoping they can get it back soon.
I love how their showing how good it looks meanwhile im watching this on a 60hz display
Don't worry, the video is 30 Hz 😅
@@AntonioNoack not to mention youtube compression
POV: You cant read the text and you realise that youtube limits video fps to 60. BUT THEN LINUS DIDNT EVEN UPLOAD IT AT 60 HE UPLOADED IT AT 30
Linus Tesla Tips
14:00 it doesn't have to be about reaction time. The screen being more readable when moving fast might still help you. When you're playing shooters you can 'scan' around you much faster. Think 'spinbotting' but not hacking just swinging mouse very fast and still being able to see enemies. It might also help with good ol flick shots.
yea I imagine it would take me less time to check my corners in games. I'm on a 1080/165 panel and it's pretty good but I will say it's kind of smeary when you want to flick 90-180 degrees to check your six. can't imagine the benefits of an OLED in these situations
This is what most people dont understand still lmao.
@@ayyorta God I wish the technology moved faster so I can finally get high refresh OLED gaming display for cheap.
Exactly. Good video but too much focus on input lag. The clarity as you pan the camera quickly is the true selling point of 500hz
same with the frog test, the benefits would've more apparent if it was running faster
5:24 I think Linus is the only person who would complain about 350 fps 😂
Ffs guys, use a high speed camera to show the difference between the monitors already. I’m not going to be able to see the difference between a 240Hz monitor and a 500Hz one on a 60/90/120Hz phone screen.
Zoom in and slow it down.
I'd like to see this high refresh rate technology in VR since that's where this will make the biggest difference
Exactly, thats where it will be a huge benefit since video is split combining into a single image
The WAN show tomorrow is gonna be crazy 😂😂
the last few Fridays have been pretty crazy already
Watching this Video unlisted while the Hack is going on, strange Times.
Me watching this video on my 60Hz 75" TV: "That looks the exact same as MY TV.. I don't need this product.."
I love the feedback from the film crew in these recent videos. Their comments add a lot to the overall experience!
i wonder why this video is unlisted? (oh they got hacked)