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KnifeCenter FAQ #69: Is Swiss Army Knife Steel Any Good? + Backpacking Knives and Fingernails
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Tackling the big question: Should Swiss Army Knives have better blade steel? Plus, we’ve got backpack camping knives, maintaining carbon steel, and the best knife for fingernails. Plus, it’s time for cavemen to have a knife, right?
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0:46 Is Swiss Army Knife Steel Any Good?
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I think a lot of people get too caught up in the type of steel these days. I've worked in logistics for over 35 years and have always kept a Victorinox in my pocket. (The Explorer being a favorite.) In a fast paced warehouse situation with freight on all types (boxes, pallets, and crates) moving in and out all day, there is something to be said for a knife that is quick and easy to sharpen on the fly. Instead of a harder steel that takes a while. Plus stropping a couple of times at the start and end of the day helps keep a blade at the ready.
Yes, Sir. I actually keep a 3inch piece of one of my old leather belts in my pocket without compound on it for touch ups. The rougher side if its very dual followed by the smoother side or just the smoother only.
a good point of view to consider for those always wanting the hardest steel out there, well said buddy
Yep. I like my SAK Compact and Mountaineer
My favorite knives have always been the cheapest ones I wasn’t particularly excited about. Funny how that goes.
I have carried wenger and victorinox knives for over 40 yrs and never had a problem with there steel. It’s not alway about the steel it’s how it is heat treated. Good premium steel not heat treated correctly can be crappy to get and hold a edge I have seen it several times in my 40 yrs of knife collecting
Wish western's cryotreated 1095 CV equivalent was still made, I abuse my user grade W49 and it holds an edge forever and isn't hard to sharpen
@@jonslife3533 I agree I have a western w49 that was used and carried in Vietnam and it holds a great edge
@@markpoore3260 mine is a 73-76 guard stamp that's rather beat up, but it wasn't ever sharpened until I got it
I bought it with busted scales, rust and a slightly tweaked edge for 40 dollars, I tweaked the edge back carefully, sharpened it and made some handles out of black walnut, I absolutely love it
I'm in less than 50 bucks total and I don't think I can get a new knife that good anywhere near that price
Victorinox is just really cool. It has history, yet it is timeless, it has a nice feel in the hand and it lasts for decades. I love my huntsman and carry it everywhere I go. Call it a habit.
I lost mine... =( And I miss it. It has been the more useful knife I've ever had
the world needs an SAK configurator where you add only the implements you need. Victorinox, get on it! (Casio G-shock team, if you're reading this...)
Hear, hear! My Spartan and my GW-B5600 are my favorite EDC combo. Tho, instead of that smaller blade within Spartan, I'd like to see a nail file. I also like Compact, because of the scissors, but I just can't stand that useless hook. Compact with an awl or Philips screwdriver, instead of the hook, could be the perfect one.
@@damyr I would also like to add the small pen blade to the Compact, on top of the hook replacement.
This option will create world peace!
On the serration thing: I like the way my Leatherman WAVE puts ‘em on a separate blade. When I want serrations for cutting a zip tie, synthetic webbing or rope, or even a bundle of stranded wire if the cutters can’t reach, I choose that blade. Otherwise, my plain blade is better without serrations.
Ötzi, also called the Iceman, is the natural mummy of a man who lived some time between 3350 and 3105 BC, discovered in September 1991 in the Ötztal Alps (hence the nickname "Ötzi") on the border between Austria and Italy.
Is it true that he voted for joe biden?
How far we've come in 5000 years. I also appreciate a nice sharp stick thing.
@@ronfox5519 No, he votet for Trump, the first of them, thats why he got an Arrow in his Back!
@@Toppe_rHonda
Thats good news!
I knew there had to be a dead guy somewhere who hadnt voted for biden.
it turns out he was officially within Italian boundaries so he's Italian guess ;-)
I've daily carried a SAK for over 30 years. My favorite model is the Huntsman.
The Huntsman is a great choice
The Victorinox steel is incredibly corrosion resistant. I use an SAK as a muzzleloader tool for hunting. I find it amazing that even black powder exposure has a hard time corroding it.
I carried a Victorinox SD Classic for several years, but switched to the Executive over 25 yrs ago. It's always in my pocket as a supplement to a bit larger liner/frame lock w/ pocket clip. I just ordered two Victorinox Bantam knives yesterday, one for myself and the other for my Daughter's Boyfriend. He's not much of a knife guy, so I am starting his future addiction with a simple pocket knife.
Episode 69, nice. The thing with “super” steels is that probably far above 90% of the buyers are not even going to use that steel beyond opening the package their next knife comes in. Not many people who use a knife hard are willing to spend 3x or more for a tool they are going to use until it breaks or is lost. The steels are almost about bragging rights like, oh CPM 69, how quaint, mine is MagnaPuts 69000 XLK, you peasant. Who even buys a knife unless it cost more than $500 and they killed the man who made it to protect its secrets.
True, but there are other Peoples to.. i had used my Rockstead Shin with ZPD-189 for over 2 Years at Work, was an Electrician back then. The Blade had some Chip outs and many Scraches after that Abuse but was still sharp as Hell without any Maintenance, a Victorinox would be dull after a Week. Send it to Rockstead, they grind all Chips and polished almost all Scraches under Warranty
@@Toppe_rHonda Respect. ✊
I think I would say this about Victorinox changing how they make knives: The Shark has not evolved one tiny bit in tens of millions of years because it already reached evolutionary perfection years ago.
Swiss Army Knives are obviously as item of collection for many people, but Victorinox deals strictly with practical designs that will last a lifetime of hard use. Sure, a person could spend $400 on a Böker Quadro made with Cru-Wear steel, but will they take the thing into the woods and beat on it without a care the same way I beat on my $40 SAK daily?
I currently own around 200 knives and have given away probably another 100 or so as gifts. In my opinion the super steels are highly over rated. A Rockwell hardness of 58-60 is perfect anything harder than that is difficult and time consuming to sharpen. One good example is a condor with 1075 steel. I purchased this knife because is was economical and was going to be used strictly for batoning wood at my wood stove for kindling. I have beaten on that knife for many years. That blade has never chipped or sustained any damage. I keep a medium diamond stone. Close bye and can restore the blade to a shaving sharp edge within minutes.
I have the Victorinox Classic SD and the steel had me impressed, such a little blade is able to do more than its size.
I cut open a can (sied-wall, all the way around) with my classic. Minimal damage to the blade.
A little blade equipped by a wide open mind can do everything! Take a look to Felix Himmler channel
I got into knives when my dad got me a Victorinox classic when I was 7, and I've been expanding the collection ever since, with swiss army knives holding a special place for their cool factor, nostalgia, the timeless design, their being tough as nails, and the ability to carry one anywhere without freaking anyone out. They just work, and nothing beats a handy tool, even though I've got plenty of other folders and fixed blades around.
Eventually, after he passed, I got my hands on the Vic Sportsman that belonged to my grandpa (which is still in perfect working order, mind you, and must be around 35 years old if not more), which I keep on my desk at all times. Over the years I've gotten my hands on an Outrider, a Trailmaster, the Swisschamp, the Farmer X, and I always have a Huntsman on my keychain. My little brother is also getting a Fisherman as a present for his birthday. Never mind the fancier steels, these things are made to stick around, and we love them for it.
For me my SAK of choice is the Alox Pioneer X. The knife blade is my least used feature so that overly stainless under edge holding steel is just fine because it's more liable to rust than go dull for my uses. I keep it as a coat pocket tool, I have better knives to use as knives on me, but sometimes you need a great little pair of scissors or a bottle opener. Also can be a clutch little non knife people knife when called to action.
Very good point about why Victorinox doesn't do more premium steels on their tools! Never thought about how putting a premium steel on one tool could open a can of worms and have everyone request more premium steels on all the other tools!
That Kershaw platform knife is a hidden jewel I didn't plan on needing, but I'm planning on getting one. I mess up my nails and get dirt under them a lot at work, so this is a nice tool.
The Victorinox Nail Clip 580 Swiss Army Knife has a nail clipper and nail file.
Hello David and Knife Center crew. I'm a big fan of the channel and I finally have a question that I feel is worthy of your time. I like a sharpening choil on my knives and a finger choil is nice too but this question is specifically for sharpening choils. When using a knife with a sharpening choil you can tend to get bound up in the choil when cutting. Why don't manufactures turn the sharpening choil into a single serration so you will be able to use the choil for cutting cordage and help eliminate the blade getting snagged up on the task at hand?
It's funny. I cut sharpening choils into most of my knives that don't come with them and I was thinking I should make it sharp for wire stripping or other uses just an hour before reading this comment!
Hi David (and Seth),
My first question was answered brilliantly, so here I go again! Hope you can help me out with another one similar to my 1st question:
I'm looking for a folding knife, with the following features:
1) Flipper (that becomes a "guard")
2) Axis or Similar Cross-Bar Lock (**MUST** be bank-vault, bomb-proof strong)
3) Thumb Hole, either oval or round, doesn't matter, but **MUST** have it...
4) About 3" or more Blade Length
5) Pointy, not Wharncliffe, but needs some belly.
6) Optional, but would be game-winning: Full Flat Grind, finger choil, assist or bearings in the pivot and Deep Carry Pocket Clip
7) See if you can recommend me a budget and a premium version each.
Thanks so much!
I would want victorinox to simply harden their steel higher, Vic steel is 54-56, but it can go to 57-58 easily, and that would make quite a difference allready in edge retention!
The reason for the hardness choice is that it is safer if a blade bends instead of snapping if it becomes overloaded and it is also easier to sharpen.
I have several different SAKs as well asI the MKM. I love them all! A very wise knife maker (William Collins) said if a knife is taking up room in your pocket have one that has multiple uses. I'm limited in what I can carry in my home state and I never leave home without an SAK. As far as needing premium steel on an SAK I don't need it for my daily use.
Years ago someone told me their steel was 440C . just in casual conversation . Since then , Ive assumed thats what it was . Im not very good at sharpening but the sak I can get pretty damn sharp [ for me at least ] . Ive had one for 25 years that looks like its been through a war but still functions good , other than a couple broken tips . I recently purchased a new one , a Recruit , and its fantastic
Victorinox doesn't say what they use, they just call it Inox (which just means stainless). It's probably not 440C. People have run tests on it and apparently it's closest to X55CrMo14/EN 1.4110. It has around 0.5-0.7% carbon content, where as 440C usually has a bit over 1% carbon. 440C also has 17% Chromium content where as Victorinox's steel has around 14%.
I thought I read somewhere that their INOX steel is closer to 4116.
I use the scissors on my classic sd or compact to trim nails.
Nail clipping: Leatherman Micra. Use the file tool to run under the fingernail to clean out the dirt and push back the cuticle underneath, then use the SCISSORS to trim the nails.
If you give the back inch or two of the edge "teeth", it'll work like a combo edge. It makes a huge difference when the rest of your edge is basically polished.
I owned 3 Swiss army knives before I even got into the knife world
I understand why they are such a huge company
I have been carrying the Explorer since 1997 and use it extensively nearly everyday with items used mostly being magnifying glass, Philips screwdriver and both blades.
When I am hiking I have the Outrider on my belt and love using its wood saw.
Easy to dull but quick recovery on a small leather strop.
Cheers
I think the steel used on a Swiss Army knife is perfect for the type of knife that it is. And it does sharpen to razor sharp! I'm not real hard on my SAK, mostly using it to open packages, letters, or cut food and I don't have to re-sharpen it hardly at all.
Thanks, as always, Mr. Andersen, for an entertaining and informative journey. With regard to the question of upgrades to SAKs, I think the Boker Tech-Tool line and the suspiciously similar Ruike Multifunctional Tool line are pretty good places to look. Upgrades include Sandvik 12C27 stainless steel blades, G-10 scales in most models, and deep-carry pocket clips in larger models.
Synthetic motor oil; Great for engines, but also as a lightweight general lube/protectant for anything, guns, and knives too! The 1911 runs awesome on synthetic motor oil. It's handy to keep Syn3 or Mobile 1 in a little needle applicator bottle for all kinds of little items, including folding knives as a lube and protectant. Use it in air tools too. It's awesome to have only one oil laying around instead of an oil for this, an oil for that.... actually I have two, Syn3 and Mobile 1. The little applicator bottle of oil when it's near empty gets either Syn3 or Mobile 1 whichever is within reach at the time.I got tired of the plethora of little oil bottles all over the place, they were taking over!
Victorianox do make a damasc bladed pocket.
My Victorinox SAK Rangergrip 78, which is my EDC, was significantly dulled by a total of 12 feet of cardboard cutting. Disappointing, but it sharpens up quickly on my Worksharp guided field sharpener.
To answer 3 of these questions with one answer. Long term backpacking knife solution: SAK Nailclip 580. You don't really need a big knife backpacking, the nailclipper solves the other problem, and the steel is good enough for anything you need on the trail, while being compact and lightweight. Can use the nailclippers for other things like trimming threads/fishing line, and scissors to cut tape/moleskin and open packages such as mountain-house meals or rice sides. Honestly you will use the blade itself the least probably.
FAQ #69
*Giggity*
I carry a SAK Huntsman every day. I carry a big knife daily also. The big knife changes day to day. But there is always the same Huntsman in my pocket every single day. It could be I modded the knife a bit after watching some Felix Immler videos and made it much more useful.
Leatherman Style cs. Best fingernail tool ever. Scissors, file/cuticle pusher, tweezers and it clips onto your kit.
Mineral Oil is exactly what I use on knives I oil from time to time. It's actually good for all things steel. Regular food safe mineral oil believe it or not. Companies figured out many moons ago, to add their name to it, up the price and sell the exact same stuff for more money. An example, "Remington" "gun oil" and folks will pay more:) However, the parts that actually protect steel are the main parts of mineral oil in general:)
If they'd go to 14c28n I'd be the first in line to buy one. And 14c is easy to sharpen and also corrosion resistant.
I know it, I admit it, I collect Swiss army knives because they're beautiful, I've been to a couple of SAK shops just looking it's a beautiful display. I use one of mine with the Phillips head attachment on it to tighten the screen that covers my window.
I also admit then if I had ten of those to tighten I would have gone upstairs down and gotten the screwdriver for just that purpose. I collect SAK for the admiration oh an item well designed, well built and will be my collection hide forever.
When I used to be crazy about backpack weight, I only brought the smallest lightest Swiss Army Knife. Those scissors are great for nail trimming and first aid. Now I carry a bigger folder or sheath knife like Esee Izula. So many more options for not much more weight.
Always educational when watching The DCA Show. Cheers mate.
Next thing that always astonishes me: "Serrated edges are harder to sharpen than plain edges". Actually, if the serrations come in a chisel grind (which they often do), they are rather easier to sharpen. What´s true though: Plain edges are better to sharpen on makeshift devices (there are more "tools" out there that can sharpen plain edges than serrated edges)
I find it easier to sharpen the flat side. That way all the serrations are equally sharp.
Now I luv ZDP-189, 90v, M390. But I am most satisfied with the 400 series on Voctorinox knives. Bought my first one in 1976, still use it today, along with the 89 Alox knives I collect.
Hey DCA, Thomas, & Seth! Love the stuff you present - THANKS! I know you’ve had a video on categorizing of blade shapes before. I’m wondering if you could do a segment on USES of different blade shapes. When is a Clip/Drop point better for what task? When is a wharncliffe better than a sheepsfoot or vice versa? Etc. thanks a lot!
I think if Buck found a way to do it then Victorinox should be able to as well honestly and that's the main reason why I don't buy knives like that or any multi-tool for that matter other than few older ones I got while in the military.
the Kershaw with the nail clippers looks like an excellent fishing knife, stainless and the nail clippers would be great for cutting fishing line and cleaning up knots
A LOT...the majority probably of SAK users spend at least a little time outdoors, SAKs are very corrosion resistant , you can do meal prep with it outdoors. Easy as all daylights to keep sharp with maybe occasionally a DMT trifold serrated sharpener, and or a simple small high quality ceramic rod. Fire prep, use the spine of the saw for Ferro rods. Great knife for the money
I have my father in laws 25+ year old Swiss Army knife. Like you said, super easy to sharpen. It’s my sharpest knife because of that fact.
I think a switch to 12c27 across their entire catalog would not be bad for victorinox that being said I am perfectly satisfied with what they use now
the 2 stop snap of opening a SAK blade is an amazing feeling - dont underestimate it
Yup I can’t wait for my Platform…. Had it on order since June of last year and just got notice this week it was back in stock and has shipped to me on Friday… Tks!
Hi! Can you do a video on comparing toughnesses between a range of popular high carbon steels like 1095, O1, A2, cru wear, and 3v??
It’s true that Victorinox stainless steel is easy to sharpen. It’s also very corrosion resistant. I don’t think I’ve ever seen rust, or even discoloration, on a Victorinox SAK, and I’ve seen a great many SAKs of all ages and conditions.
Steel type aside, none of the other knives with multi tools I’ve tried compare with Victorinox models for quality of design and construction. Victorinox has been making these things for 125 years, and they’ve figured some things out.
i have 4 swiss army in various versions and i love em. i even have one on my keychain modded with a mini ferro rod just in case
I think on the question of the extended backpacking trip, it depends on how much else (tools wise) the person is bringing. I'd be tempted to bring something like the Victorinox Swiss Army Ranger Grip 79 (various tools and a larger with larger and thicker main blade and also a bit larger saw ~ having a saw would be so useful on an extended outing IMHO . Even the cork screw is useful for untieing knots, or you might find a random bottle of wine in the wild).
The small knife conversation- I’ve noticed how popular the Buck Budgie is for a small American made knife with S35VN knife…. Great little knife
Victorinox Fibrox kitchen knives use the same steel. It is easy to sharpen to a RAZOR edge. Like seriously, this steel gets spooky sharp. It responds excellent to a strop and steel too.
I love victorinox stainless
That Kershaw with nail clippers is awesome. Anyone who works with their hands and occasionally tears a fingernail understands how necessary having a pair of nail clippers around is to get you back to work.
Congrats on doing 69 episodes of KnifeCenter FAQ! Nice. That Kershaw Platform is really neat! I use the scissors on my Victorinox for nail maintenance in a pinch. Swiss army knives forever!
Victorinox has been in business for 138 years so if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Even as a guy who is absolutely obsessed with pocketknives... the thought of using one to cut my nails is just.... no.
It's like using the back side of a hatchet to drive nails into wood when you could just as easily use a hammer... You COULD... but in the words of JonTron... "...but why? Why would you do that?"
"I don't always have nail clippers on me" --> You can wait until you get home. The length of your nails isn't life-ending.
Swiss Army Knife steel is very stain resistant also.
Diagonal cutter pliers are even better than any knife to cut finger- & toe-nails. Fancy ones with a mirror finish deuicated to the purpose can be found in jewelry and cosmetics stores, but an inexpensive small one from a hardmare store would perform just as well!
Hi DCA! Excellent episode. I love your answer to the SAK steel question. I’m a big SAK fan and have been for years. My favorite SAK platform is the Cadet and it doesn’t get a lot of love. To me the only thing that would make the Cadet more perfect would be scissors. I’m hopeful that since they added scissors to the Farmer and Pioneer that they’ll do it with the Cadet. Excellent episode. Thank you!
For self-defense, a serrated edge is better because it can more easily tear through materials like denim or leather. I keep a serrated edge on me solely for that purpose (no opening boxes or chopping wood or anything else) so that the edge never dulls and I don't have to worry about sharpening it.
I know it doesn't have as many tools, but I'm surprised you didn't mention the TwoSun 206 multitool (tanto, saw, scissors, awl) in 14c28n.
They don't sell TwoSun.
@@davidgarrett5671 Mystery solved. Thanks
I use an huntsman every days and it’s a wonderfull companion for my work 👍🇫🇷🥂🇺🇸
First knife was from my popaw, an alox electrician. 30 plus years later and I still have one lol.
Short answer, Swiss Army knives have excellent quality steel and always have had. Also, a Victorinox Swiss Army knife is the best manicure tool in the world. I use nothing else but Victorinox scissors to trim my nails.
I love the swiss army knives the steel will be sharp as anything ever but on the soft side but easy to put a edge on for sure i really love the kbar 1090HC hard to put a edge on but once its there it wont dull
As far as the ? about serrated edges, I daily carry a Spyderco Tenacious half serrated w/g10 scales. I have several “better knives” but it is a beast, for my work it’s perfect! I use it hard and it just does it. I always have one knife on me that’s serrated part way at least! Big thumbs up here for serrated blades!
Regarding the finger nail question, there are Victorinox models with nail trimmers ~ the Swiss Army Nail Clip 580 (nail clipper, scissors, file and small blade. However that knife you showed (Kershaw Platform) was pretty cool. ALso , perhaps it's obvious, but if you have nothing else, finding a smooth rock with a bit of texture can make a good nail file :-)
Victorinox steel can be sharpened on the bottom of a coffee mug. For nails the Classic or their compact Nailclip is so cool and easy to use
While I agree victorinox doesn't need a better steel a limited sprint run with premium steel would be a hot seller.
Also a blade less farmer alox with the scissors in place of the blade would be prefect for me.
You could get the Farmer X and remove the blade perhaps -DCA
Rarely leave home without my minichamp. So many useful little tools.
The thing is, victorinox makes a tool for it...or sets of tools in 1 package.
Efficient. Useful. Classic.
I do like Kershaw's integration of clippers in the pocket knife.
I've trimmed my finger nails with a pocket knife since I was a teenager. It drives my wife nuts. I never gave it a second thought until she saw me using a knife on my nails when we were relatively newlywed. She thinks I'm nuts, but I literally just do it when it looks like it needs it and she always says, "Let me just go get a pair of clippers." By the time she would get them, I'm done anyway. Never give it a second thought unless she's around when I do it. Never cut myself from trimming nails that I can remember. That said, I wouldn't recommend it for most anyone. That Kershaw knife is a neat option for that.
DCA - Thanks for all of your videos. I have the Bushcraft Forest Mora and it is a great knife. I put a sharp spine on it with a file and it can strike a ferro rod and scrape shavings as well. Purchased a leather sheath for it also.
Use nail clippers. I’ve cut my nails with a knife blade, and it’s possible if you have a very sharp knife. But using nail clippers is much easier, safer, and gives better results.
Hey, DCA. You guys have so much other cool gear at Knife Center - you have swords and ice cream scoops, for Pete’s sake. Why don’t you and Seth do an “Our Favorite Gear from Other Departments” video?
I often wonder the exact same thing.
I have seen multiple videos now on people switching out the blades with a Spyder Co blade calling them Spydernox. I think if they wanted too they could just create a more premium blade for the different sizes and offer them as an upgrade or replacement for people to order from their parts shop. They could also do a special run of them like the colored Alox ones.
About 40 to 50 thousands Saks per day leave their factory... And end up in everybody's pocket for 20 to 40 $... All surprisingly perfect for the price and volume... They have no time for customization, it's not their business. This is a very VERY different kind of production than what can offer a single tasker with different selectable options of materials for 500$ per piece. And both are wonderful in their own way
Victorinox nail clip....got a red one and a wood series one. Can't beat it.
DCA &/or Seth: Will there be a KnifeCenter catalog for 2022, & if so, when will it be available for purchase? I wanted to use the most recent catalog for a couple writing projects, & the KnifeCenter hard copy catalog is one of the most comprehensive resources on knives, and I'm really looking forward to the 2022 edition. Thanks!
Thanks DCA definitely helped me decide on the lil native. And dang seeing them together made them seem even more similar but you did well picking out the differences
5:24 lol I've almost exclusively used a pocket knife for nail maint. for the better part of 2 decades. Maybe not the best for TRIMMING, but a challenge anyone to find nailclippers thhat can clean the dirt out under the nails better than my Kershaw Cryo! lol. Blade shape is EVERYTHING tho.
Hi DCA-
I’m putting together a disaster kit and am looking for a solid folder. I already have a Leatherman Wave in the kit, this one would be more of a “user.”
My criteria, in order of importance:
Blade toughness is number one.
Water could be an issue, either due to weather or the fact that it will be stored in a potentially damp basement, so corrosion resistance is second.
Edge retention and ease of sharpening are equally important to one another, but are nowhere near as important as the first two.
I’d like to keep in under $100, if that’s realistic.
Thanks!
John
Great explanation of the Swiss Army Knife!
Serrations are a must when you are cutting hay bail twines all day. Rips through them like crazy
Waaaay back in 1995 I talked my wife into letting me buy a Victorinox Champ at the Navy Exchange on Guam because the price was 2/3 what you pay anywhere else. At the time she sort of shook her head and said yes with that "fine, you can have your silly overpriced toy" kind of attitude. Within the first week of having it in my pocket it saved the day four times. A few weeks later we were at the beach and I picked up a ripe coconut and husked it, cracked it and served her up sweet, juicy, fresh coconut using nothing but my Champ. As she ate it she laughed and finally said "Ok, you were right, that is a great little knife and it was worth the price."
Still have it and still carry it every day. Sure, it's been beat to crap over the years and looks like hell, but it still functions perfectly. As for the steel, I love it. I keep it razor sharp and when it does get dull it literally takes like one to two minutes to get it razor sharp again.
I'd LOVE to get a SAK in LC200N. I think it would strike a good balance being almost as durable, having even better stainlessness and edge retention while not being hugely difficult to sharpen either. I'd gladly pay $150-200 for a sprint run of one of these on an Alox Farmer X.
Best duo or multibladed knife. I have braces and everynow and then need to cut my food. And don't want to use the same blade for food and edc uses
The Victorinox SD Alox on my keychain is the only knife I'm guaranteed to always have on me. It has a surprising amount of utility when you need it to
I had many Victorinox in my childhood and I hated all of them because the knife just wouldn't keep sharp. I never had one I liked. I liked the tools, but the knife felt useless to me, I always rather carried my Mora in carbon steel to the woods but was missing the tools. The first multitool I felt was useful was a leatherman copy in carbon steel bought in italy. I also NEVER in my life found any of the multitool files of any use (at least until the diamond ones became more prevalent). I had no idea what to use them for since they always had almost no bite on either wood or fingernails.
Cold steel SRK would be my back packing knife of choice. I don’t struggle with food prep with it.
Since you were already talking about Victorinox this week, I was surprised not to see the excellent Victorinox Swiss Army Nailclip 580 or the Nailclip mentioned here.
People say things like Victorinox is not a "knife guy" knife because of it's steel...
Listen mate, its still steel, its still a knife, a very value adding tool to edc kit and guess what... Dedicated "knife guys" (some of them are in the knife making and selling industry) carry them.
20:45 I take a file to the spine of the blade so I have a two in one as 90% of everything I use a knife for, I need a cutter not a hacker however serrations come in handy when messing with nets and such
In answer to the guy who wanted one backpacking knife for bushcraft AND defence..... I would use the Mora...and I do, a Mora Outdoor 2000 and an Eldris neck knife, but I also carry a Cold Steel Bushman because it's light, inexpensive, made from a single piece of steel AND you can turn it into a strong, effective spear in only minutes. I commonly spend long periods of time in the very wild wilds of the Olympic peninsula. Just my 2 cents worth....
MORA Bushcraft Forest is really an overlooked knife. Very handy.
I love that Kershaw plataform , is great too put in a med pouch
You can buy a Victorinox with Damaststeel.