She alone could fk up the outcome of a guilty man. This case was a easy case he rode along, geared up, hid evidence etc etc. It doesn't matter if he pulled a trigger he went along with plot and was at each killing. Even a driver who drives a murderer away from a crime is guilty in many states. I'm sure the jury is burnt out from her looonnng verbal nonsense
Right. That's why smart judges put a time limit on both side's closing arguments. You get 2 hours, and you get 2 hours. That's it. Makes them cut all the fluff out and actually make a convincing argument!
Honestly I think she is just worn down she has been on this case for 7 years but she is lucky that the judge was lenient because most judges would not have been ok with the way she asks questions or not and basically testifying. I think the evidence and Mr Wilson saved the case!!!
She is brutal in general. Every other word is “ummm”. Then she sighs and sniffles and makes snide remarks anytime she is objected to. She seemed lost this entire trial. Not sure if Pike County has a quota they had to meet for female attorneys or what. The guy who did the ballistic evidence was great. It’s beyond me why he didn’t do the whole case. Parker, the defense attorney, is no better. You’d think after 4 months of trial you would know the judge is going to want you to tell him what you are objecting to yet any time he objects he just says “objection” and nothing else. I guess the pickings are slim for decent attorneys in East Podunk Ohio.
Wow, we have a lot of "armchair quarterbacks" here. You missed your calling! Think. Do you think the jurors are stupid? My question: Why didn't George ever call the police, OR DO SOMETHING anonymously. I just can't believe he didn't know.
Can't you just see him getting all drawn into the furore, then "chokes" at the scene and after that, what choice does he have but to be part of the cover-up? By his own proud protestations, he was raised to hate all LE and he was in WAY too deep to suddenly see the light.
I have a family member who works in that courtroom everyday and he said when George testified the jurors smirked and rolled their eyes!He says that's why George looked down all the time!
Gigi on the Pretty Lies and Alibis podcast said the same - there was eye rolling from the jury while George was on the stand - and she has two reliable contacts in court.
His mother said purchased the shoes for Jake and George also said they all left together the night of the murders.Jake also said he was involved that night ihope the juniors serve justice for this family.
She showed how Billie, Angela & Jake are narcissists with being control freaks. George is guilty by their say so 🤷🏼♀️ Nothing pointed to George. Waiting on the verdict will be a nail biter for sure. Hopefully Defence will do a better job
Boondocks Saints…Walking Dead…tattoos…Way WAY too much time spent on explaining the connections to circumstantial evidence! She’s coming off as desperate instead of confidence in her case!
They will have all the evidence to review as long as they want. Besides, Prosecutor has already told the jury George did not murder anyone.. First thing this morning the judge told the jury death is off the table. She is trying to convict George of conspiracy, not murder. Tattoos/movies.. start listening at 2:10.. (2hr 10min)
Yes how did the prosecution bellieve to force their decision I was alarmed when the male prosecutor got extremely loud jumping around the courtroom The jury I hope didn’t feel pressured with his alarming ant
Ummmmmmmm ummmmmmmm ummmmmmmm ramble ramble and ramble on some more . Horrible prosecutor . She and she alone could let this guy walk even though he is guilty as sin .
Unfortunately she is not a very good speaker . May be a good attorney but a poor speaker . He’s guilty behind belief but she’s helping him out right now
In a perfect world, every truly horrific crime would have an all-star prosecutor and defense team selected to run the trial. Bc only then would the truth about their crimes come to light the world over. I can only imagine how many people started this trial and dropped off long ago, bc the prosecutor and defense attnys are just sooo hard to listen to and stay with. I've been in and out numerous times and missed alot, bc I was just annoyed and couldn't listen anymore. This trial had potential to be a trial of the century. And they let it fall flat.
George, his attorneys are the worst, always being objective, side bar three time every 15 minutes about every little bit of testimony, they have done it through out the whole process, that's why this closing argument are taking so long. I'm sure his attorneys think they will throw her off but in reality it just will piss the jury off. Georgie boy is toast!
They almost did get away with it. Honestly if Jake and Angela didn’t confess there was no DNA or prints. At the very least one or two of them could have possibly got away with it. Funny thing too is George was saying everyone else in the family would get them caught up but it was his big ass ranting mouth!!!
I understand your frustration with actually the whole process. They should all face death, especially Billy, Angels and Jake. but uderstand this women has the weight of the whole world on her shoulders. would I have liked to see her more aggressive and the others have more time, Yes, but she is doing the best job she can and I believe George should get at least as much as his dang mother which was def not enough…sad..But she is completely convincing me he as in on it. She has to go through each lie he told..he is just a good layer and shame on his attorney.
Gosh I look forward to hearing the defenses closing statement, becaus this prosecutor has done an excellent job in drawing strands of circumstantial evidence together, and in separating fact from fiction and lies from truth. I think George is going to find himself behind bars for a VERY long time unless the defence offers some alternate scenario.
He didn't kill anyone. Neither did Angela but they're both guilty as sin. He doesn't need to kill anyone to be guilty. He knew and helped plan and cover it up. That's enough. GUILTY
Speaking of the shoes, maybe the prosecution will come back to the subject. So far, I expected that she would point out that they proved George was present enuff to be stepping in the blood because their mom said she bought the 2 pairs, different sizes FOR THE BOYS. No way was 1 of the pairs for Billy and NOT George, because Billy had to interact with Chris Sr. & Gary that night and it would have stood out to them if he was wearing tennis shoes when HE ALWAYS WORE BOOTS. She never points this out. Though it's circumstantial, like everything else - that info makes it a slam dunk, IMHO. Also, she hasn't said anything about when their feet were measured and still I don't know if it was ever disclosed what size George is.
The mom, Angela, said she bought the shoes for the boys but this does not prove George wore the shoes. Did they collect DNA from the inside of the shoes? The bloody footprint showed someone stepped in the blood but were the footprints Jake's? What size were the shoes he wore? Were there two sets of footprints showing two different sized shoes at any of the murder sights?
You could have saved the State of Ohio a lot of money! :-) Prosecutor told the jurors weeks ago that George did not murder anyone. First thing this morning, the judge told the jurors that death was off the table. She is trying the convict George of conspiracy, not murder.
@@cathleengross3474 She did say in her closing arguments @1:30:15 that there were footprints in the blood at the crime scene in both sizes, 10-1/2 and 11.
@@evelynmahoney3569 Thanks for pointing this out. The prosecutor said, "she (Suzanne Elliott) ultimately figured out that there were two shoe sizes, 10-1/2 and 11." But, at 1:29:58 the prosecutor said "There were shoe prints left in blood ..........for at least one OR two of the individuals who committed these offenses...." At 1:30:57 the prosecutor said "item 23 & 47 those are the size 11s and item 24 is the 10-1/2. There are two (prints) size 11's in the crime scene in blood." This is confusing to me. Then a little later the judge reminded the jury that these statements are an argument of counsel. Interesting case but I don't think the prosecutor's statement is very good.
I hope the jury isn't sitting there getting mad! Furious in fact! (I'd be infuriated!) Repeating the entire trial suggests she doesn't think they were paying attention! It was alot of evidence & there was alot of deaths! 8! Comes across as rambling...
I already commented, and not that I am anyone special, however I would love , honestly love to help coach her with her repeatly words. Although I think she has gotten better..I feel bad for her..These people prob have very little sleep for all these weeks…
Jake saved himself..Angela saved herself pick you can't pick yr family only yr friends..sorry for Rohdens..as friends..If George was there and tried to save them he'd probably be dead who knows
She's gonna take the WHOLE DAY for what she calls Closing Arguments....I call it Angela's Ramblings!!
She alone could fk up the outcome of a guilty man. This case was a easy case he rode along, geared up, hid evidence etc etc. It doesn't matter if he pulled a trigger he went along with plot and was at each killing. Even a driver who drives a murderer away from a crime is guilty in many states. I'm sure the jury is burnt out from her looonnng verbal nonsense
Right. That's why smart judges put a time limit on both side's closing arguments. You get 2 hours, and you get 2 hours. That's it. Makes them cut all the fluff out and actually make a convincing argument!
Did the prosecutor not practice her closing???? This is brutal at points.
You don't think starting every sentence with "Again" and ending it with, "Right?" was a good strategy? Over and over and over again?
I was thinking the same thing 🤔.
Honestly I think she is just worn down she has been on this case for 7 years but she is lucky that the judge was lenient because most judges would not have been ok with the way she asks questions or not and basically testifying. I think the evidence and Mr Wilson saved the case!!!
She is brutal in general. Every other word is “ummm”. Then she sighs and sniffles and makes snide remarks anytime she is objected to. She seemed lost this entire trial. Not sure if Pike County has a quota they had to meet for female attorneys or what. The guy who did the ballistic evidence was great. It’s beyond me why he didn’t do the whole case.
Parker, the defense attorney, is no better. You’d think after 4 months of trial you would know the judge is going to want you to tell him what you are objecting to yet any time he objects he just says “objection” and nothing else. I guess the pickings are slim for decent attorneys in East Podunk Ohio.
Prosecutor is TERRIBLE!!
Wow, we have a lot of "armchair quarterbacks" here. You missed your calling! Think. Do you think the jurors are stupid?
My question: Why didn't George ever call the police, OR DO SOMETHING anonymously. I just can't believe he didn't know.
I think George found out about the murders after his brother and dad committed the murders. He should have called the police.
@Cathleen Gross no way he didn't know before. This family doesn't go to the bathroom without the approval from the other 3.
Can't you just see him getting all drawn into the furore, then "chokes" at the scene and after that, what choice does he have but to be part of the cover-up? By his own proud protestations, he was raised to hate all LE and he was in WAY too deep to suddenly see the light.
I have a family member who works in that courtroom everyday and he said when George testified the jurors smirked and rolled their eyes!He says that's why George looked down all the time!
I think your family member is telling you porkies, they’d be poker face through the whole thing, they’d be dismissed for that
Gigi on the Pretty Lies and Alibis podcast said the same - there was eye rolling from the jury while George was on the stand - and she has two reliable contacts in court.
@@Jenjenilou thank you since I got called a troll and a liar lol
Now just like I said he's found guilty!
His mother said purchased the shoes for Jake and George also said they all left together the night of the murders.Jake also said he was involved that night ihope the juniors serve justice for this family.
Nah for Jake & Billy
They did.
Someone is having a bad hair day!
She showed how Billie, Angela & Jake are narcissists with being control freaks. George is guilty by their say so 🤷🏼♀️ Nothing pointed to George. Waiting on the verdict will be a nail biter for sure. Hopefully Defence will do a better job
Boondocks Saints…Walking Dead…tattoos…Way WAY too much time spent on explaining the connections to circumstantial evidence! She’s coming off as desperate instead of confidence in her case!
Agreed totally circumstantial evidence only
They will have all the evidence to review as long as they want. Besides, Prosecutor has already told the jury George did not murder anyone.. First thing this morning the judge told the jury death is off the table. She is trying to convict George of conspiracy, not murder. Tattoos/movies.. start listening at 2:10.. (2hr 10min)
She won how all you haters feel now? Ha ha
Thank you Angela Capela everyone involved in this case to prove the Wagner family guilt.
This is a hard one. I'm usually convinced either way but not this time. I feel bad for the jury. It'd almost an impossible decision.
Yes how did the prosecution bellieve to force their decision I was alarmed when the male prosecutor got extremely loud jumping around the courtroom The jury I hope didn’t feel pressured with his alarming ant
Hate see a murderer walk but this prosecutor might've let him off the hook with her umms and rights..... she's terrible imo
Ummmmmmmm ummmmmmmm ummmmmmmm ramble ramble and ramble on some more . Horrible prosecutor . She and she alone could let this guy walk even though he is guilty as sin .
The 1st thing we learned in public speaking is to practice our speech and how to control the uhmmm
Well she still cannot put a coherent sentence together. She should NOT be doing this. Absolutely awful
Unfortunately she is not a very good speaker . May be a good attorney but a poor speaker . He’s guilty behind belief but she’s helping him out right now
In a perfect world, every truly horrific crime would have an all-star prosecutor and defense team selected to run the trial. Bc only then would the truth about their crimes come to light the world over. I can only imagine how many people started this trial and dropped off long ago, bc the prosecutor and defense attnys are just sooo hard to listen to and stay with. I've been in and out numerous times and missed alot, bc I was just annoyed and couldn't listen anymore. This trial had potential to be a trial of the century. And they let it fall flat.
George, his attorneys are the worst, always being objective, side bar three time every 15 minutes about every little bit of testimony, they have done it through out the whole process, that's why this closing argument are taking so long. I'm sure his attorneys think they will throw her off but in reality it just will piss the jury off. Georgie boy is toast!
Perry Mason she is not
I freaking love Perry! I listened to as much of her as I could. She’s the never ending story! She will lose because of her rambling!🤷🏻♀️
Nobody is Perry Mason. Most of what that fictional character did is not even legal in a real court.😊
I can't believe the Wagnera thought they going to get away with killing 8 people!! Senseless and evil 😈
They almost did get away with it. Honestly if Jake and Angela didn’t confess there was no DNA or prints. At the very least one or two of them could have possibly got away with it. Funny thing too is George was saying everyone else in the family would get them caught up but it was his big ass ranting mouth!!!
Very disappointing…..Um , you know !
A better prosecutor could have made him slip something out if she talked about the murders more on cross
She’s going to lose this case for the state of Ohio. Largest investigation in Ohio history and they present this to prosecute 😣
How can the other legal team make objections in closing arguments? Legal teams just don't do that.
If Ms. Canepa was my defense attorney, I'd instantly take a plea deal no matter how innocent I was. Good gawd 🙄
I was hoping she wasn’t delivering the closing statements. At least follow a power point or notes, she just rambles on
Her favorite words
Ummm, again, they, let's talk about..
She did a lousy job at the closing argument. 😮💨
I understand your frustration with actually the whole process. They should all face death, especially Billy, Angels and Jake. but uderstand this women has the weight of the whole world on her shoulders. would I have liked to see her more aggressive and the others have more time, Yes, but she is doing the best job she can and I believe George should get at least as much as his dang mother which was def not enough…sad..But she is completely convincing me he as in on it. She has to go through each lie he told..he is just a good layer and shame on his attorney.
Gosh I look forward to hearing the defenses closing statement, becaus this prosecutor has done an excellent job in drawing strands of circumstantial evidence together, and in separating fact from fiction and lies from truth. I think George is going to find himself behind bars for a VERY long time unless the defence offers some alternate scenario.
Death Penalty is no longer an option? why?
They agreed to drop the death penalty for all of them in exchange for Jake and Angela’s testimony.
The jury would have to be sequestered, prosecutor realized that could upset them.
I wish this prosecutor wouldn’t been more effective.
This proves nothing about George killing anyone
He didn't kill anyone. Neither did Angela but they're both guilty as sin. He doesn't need to kill anyone to be guilty. He knew and helped plan and cover it up. That's enough. GUILTY
Omgosh who could of sat through this long drawn out rambling
Speaking of the shoes, maybe the prosecution will come back to the subject. So far, I expected that she would point out that they proved George was present enuff to be stepping in the blood because their mom said she bought the 2 pairs, different sizes FOR THE BOYS. No way was 1 of the pairs for Billy and NOT George, because Billy had to interact with Chris Sr. & Gary that night and it would have stood out to them if he was wearing tennis shoes when HE ALWAYS WORE BOOTS. She never points this out. Though it's circumstantial, like everything else - that info makes it a slam dunk, IMHO.
Also, she hasn't said anything about when their feet were measured and still I don't know if it was ever disclosed what size George is.
The mom, Angela, said she bought the shoes for the boys but this does not prove George wore the shoes. Did they collect DNA from the inside of the shoes? The bloody footprint showed someone stepped in the blood but were the footprints Jake's? What size were the shoes he wore? Were there two sets of footprints showing two different sized shoes at any of the murder sights?
You could have saved the State of Ohio a lot of money! :-) Prosecutor told the jurors weeks ago that George did not murder anyone. First thing this morning, the judge told the jurors that death was off the table. She is trying the convict George of conspiracy, not murder.
@@cathleengross3474 She did say in her closing arguments
@1:30:15 that there were footprints in the blood at the crime scene in both sizes, 10-1/2 and 11.
No one asked George what his shoe size was 👀
@@evelynmahoney3569 Thanks for pointing this out. The prosecutor said, "she (Suzanne Elliott) ultimately figured out that there were two shoe sizes, 10-1/2 and 11." But, at 1:29:58 the prosecutor said "There were shoe prints left in blood ..........for at least one OR two of the individuals who committed these offenses...." At 1:30:57 the prosecutor said "item 23 & 47 those are the size 11s and item 24 is the 10-1/2. There are two (prints) size 11's in the crime scene in blood." This is confusing to me. Then a little later the judge reminded the jury that these statements are an argument of counsel. Interesting case but I don't think the prosecutor's statement is very good.
I hope the jury isn't sitting there getting mad! Furious in fact! (I'd be infuriated!) Repeating the entire trial suggests she doesn't think they were paying attention! It was alot of evidence & there was alot of deaths! 8! Comes across as rambling...
Omg she is just awful,,,, I fell asleep listening to her closing. The defence attorney’s must be jumping up and down with joy 🥹
I already commented, and not that I am anyone special, however I would love , honestly love to help coach her with her repeatly words. Although I think she has gotten better..I feel bad for her..These people prob have very little sleep for all these weeks…
Oh my gosh I need to check my typing and spelling…I need to take my own advice and find a coach.LOL😊
@@histerp51 you can edit as I've often found to my relief!
Jake saved himself..Angela saved herself pick you can't pick yr family only yr friends..sorry for Rohdens..as friends..If George was there and tried to save them he'd probably be dead who knows
@therealz360z7 how long do. They wait person wearing a wire ..yes This is sad. !!!
She proved George’s guilt.
Not even close
He is innocent,Cartel was involved
lol
Well Jake said georgey was involved
That little attorney thinks he's got georgy a great deal