lol butthurt someone offended your game :( not everyone likes the woke trash you gobbled up like a particular barn yard animal that crows in the morning !
@@SolidPRAWN yeah.. It's on point if you have no idea what you've gotten yourself into and you just bought into the hype without thinking for yourself. If you like the genre, it's about as good as it's ever gotten, if not you'll probably still like it as long as you have some sort of critical thinking skills
bruh. i'm going though the SAME EXACT THING you are. I really want to like this game to but it's so damn convoluted and out of wack with difficulty. it doesn't scale combat nicely at all. it feels broken.
@@Mike-jv8bv BG3 is some of the easiest shit i've played recently, and that's coming from someone who wasn't into DND or anything of the sort before. Folks just don't take their time to read the tooltips and instead rush through the game, then wonder why it's so damn difficult lol.
@@RubenMakayathat’s a lie lol.I’ve played a lot of games and I found bg3 to be pretty hard as well as a beginner, I didn’t finish it bc I was getting frustrated and not having fun at All, the combat was so bad I was literally going into situations doing everything I could to avoid getting into a fight smh….let me get back to playing a real game now like Elden ring
If your reaction to every "non-perfect" situation is to reload, you haven't understood the game at all. It is just great to see, how the story is evolving based on your "mistakes". Playing a CRPG and beeing annoyed about too many spells and dialogues is like complaining about too much shooting in CoD.
@@urgian my guy, the goblin camp is 100% gonna notice when they are being attacked, being a stealth type build means you can surprise enemies alot more, not be an assassin
Nah I thought the same thing dude. I’m not into this style of game, but I’ve played Fire emblem games before that do this turn based tactical combat and I loved those games. This game though just didn’t click with me
This game upset me too, especially how you can't even be really neutral in this game. Also non-good choices just make you lose out on companions, xp and like half the content in the game which is incredibly disappointing. What I liked about Skyrim is that I can just do whatever I want, story or not, just walk around and roleplay without it affecting much of the game but in BG3 It's like nah sorry you cant be who you want to be buddy here's half your content cut from the game. I left ACT 2 and the narrator said "you are sad the curse has not been lifted" DUDE I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CURSE
Yea it's just super annoying game. I'm glad I found someone to relate to lmao. I am so annoyed i wasted my money on the hype partly but I love games like this. Just not this. Not this.
@@MsKaystra oh no, only not choices with actual consequences! rpgs should be more like skyrim, where you don't have to commit to anything and can become a master assasin, legendary thief and mage guild master while playing as a full plate armor warrior that can barely casts spells. Why make any meaningful decisions!
@@BrovarSpirytus Not choices where you can't even be neutral and if you try to be, the game just puts your characters morality into a "good" or "bad" box and if you're the bad box then you get half the content cut from the game! Wow! Brilliant game design
Throwing in my two cents here as I saw this type of player in my personal dnd games. I appreciate your view and even agree with some frustrations raised in point one, regarding the game being slow. Seeing the rest of the scenes with context provided by you I can probably say that this game is not up your alley and I wouldn't be surprised if further more issues would raise till you finish the game. Trying to make a distinction between the game not being for you and your criticism I have noticed a few faults that entirely confuse me. It seems you're trying to play the game "as it's intended" by an arbitrary someone instead of playing it however you like. The game clearly gives you plenty of "outs" and possibilities to refine any encounter & dialogue to whatever would be enjoyable for you. With Alfira you had loads of options to simply antagonize her, why would you continue the dialogue tree as if you want to help her? With Karlach, why not boot her from the party? With the party members trying to dump their life story on you, why not simply pick the option that tells them to shut up? You seem to consistently abide by this set of rules that you're clearly not enjoying and this set of rules has the prerequisite of you buying into the story which you already consider "cringe" and can't immerse yourself into. And I get it, when your only options in dialogue is either to pretend you're best buds and "fuck you, die (Attack)" it isn't much of a choice at all, but I really think Baldur's Gate rewards antagonizing npcs just as much. Thank you for your video, it's a refreshing perspective and I've enjoyed it
it seems like he and a lot of other people that complain about d&d games, are trying to play it like a jrpg. D&D rules are different from japanes rpg rules. And some people cant wrap their heads around it
You can say "this game just isn't for you" for literally ANY game... And hey technically your right, poorly designed awkward games definitely aren't for everyone lmao.
All those outs that you're referring to make the game feel like it lacks direction. I keep stumbling into quests that I never picked up and the Game acts as if I (my characters) should know about those things.. If I loot an item, if I speak to an npc, or if I enter the a location, the journal updates, and I'm suddenly in the middle of a quest that I never accepted! It feels directionless and convoluted.. I had the same problem with divinity original sin part 2, these are the only two games I've ever had this problem with. I play exclusively High fantasy D&D style games in the crpg genre,
I can't agree more with this review. I'm a hardcore BG1/BG2 veteran. I've beaten those games modded with the absolute max difficulty (sword coast strategems). Loved them to death because they were simple games to play in comparison, and, they played SMOOTH. Real time with pause meant you didn't need to slow the fight down, fixed perspective meant no screwing around with the camera. Less random crap all over the map (cups, dishes, etc.). Less bugs. Overall, as a veteran BG fan, as much as I want to love this game (the characters, voice acting and story seem fantastic) I just can't get over the absolute jankiness that is the game itself. Very disappointed overall. I'm sure Larian makes the best turn based games, but the thing is, BG was never turn based. Bioware never made turn based games, cause they knew they only catered to extremely niche audiences.
@@microwaveenthusiast7410Instead of that, Owlcat's Wrath of the Righteous. If you love epic CRPG's and original BG's, that is the game for you. Also, it has both real time with pause or turn based combat, both work and both can be toggled back and forth, any time you like. Rogue Trader is still way too buggy and broken, it needs another year in the oven. They created their own system for that game, and it's quite a mess.
Also, Baldur's Gate 3 looks awful. Almost everything is dull gray, green or brown. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (particularly the enhanced editions) is the opposite. Everything is bursting with color.
And as a D&D game, it sucks ass. I still play Neverwinter Nights. lvl 40 max and lvl 60 modded servers. BG3, max lvl 12 ?!?! Then PRC mod with 40+ base classes and almost 100 prestige classes. No room for creativity whatsoever, so everyone will end up making the same builds. 20+ year gap and every D&D game since, has been giving less and less freedom, to the point we are at now, which is just insulting. I've owned BG3 since release and played 0.0 hours. BG3 is playing at the kiddies table. Not interested!
@@waynestapleton1205 it's 5e game? Level 40 or 60 don't exist in the system. And beyond level 12 spells become too hard to code in for a game with so much action and consequence narratively. I don't think the game is for you, nor do I think 5e is. But it's not about it being a bad dnd game, it's just that you clearly don't like 5e. Which is fine. But you're expecting things not even remotely considered when someone is wanting a dnd 5e game. Lots of other picks. Go choose them.
Lot's of others to pick from ? I just said it's been going downhill for 20+ years. I've tried and reviewed or refunded where I can on every D&D style released since and it's always out right crap, or first hour or 2 are fine and then it falls apart to the point of being crap. It's never bugs that cause me to leave, it's always the game play itself and/or character progression, or lack thereof.
@@jakehelder3254 the details you guys always go to the game is just so detailed. I drift in forza and manny other car games I’m in wheel and pedal and stick shifter. it took me almost a year to learn how to do this that half a year Of reviewing clips learning angles understanding pedal discipline. Learning how to mod a car the was I want it a lot of small detail that go into the big action. And I would rather do all of that again then play this shit. This game isn’t about details it’s just tedious and even when you line everything up perfectly it still fucks up.
@@kazum1809 I get ur point but I'm not sure you get mine. Dungeons and dragons is a game of dice rolls where no skill or build can guarantee success in anything. It is random. It is fun because of this. If this is not fun for you because you need to perfect a skill, or spend time learning the intricacies of a pedal, to have fun, then dungeons and dragons and therefore baldurs gate 3, are not for you. It is very simple. Baldurs gate 3 is an adaptation of a table top game to a video game. I am not saying it's perfect, but it's trying to be something neither this video, nor the other replies seem to understand. They want it to be a different thing than it is. They are asking for a completely different game, based on a completely different tabletop game.
You're not in the minority. It's the first major RPG game I've been this bored in and it's by far the worst gameplay mechanics. It's almost like adapting a system that was meant to be played in a social setting with a human dungeon master that can react to your rolls and adapt the story to a PC system where you play completely alone is a horrible idea. The only good elements of this game are all Divinity OS remnants, and they had to GUT the systems of that game to make it work with D&D5e. This is THE most overhyped game in a long time. I played the early access and the release 35 hours and I could not care less about the story, the NPCs and my companions are 90% annoying and the only one I like I already know what happens to and I don't enjoy that either, so pointless. Not to mention the game railroads you into a certain decision making path at the end. But the worst thing are all the butthurt fanboys, who couldn't be more toxic because someone dared to criticize their little game. I'm sick and tired of these immature dickheads like the Star Citizen Crowd who defend a game by throwing insults at everybody daring not to like it. This game and its community are the prime example of everything wrong with gaming and gamers these days. yuck
Right?! This is what I wanted to say. In D&D you roll with the punches and the DM will make things work out. In this game, the amount of rng is so nauseating that it feels more like playing the lottery than a game. I've had to save/reload more times in this game (playing partially) than the last 10 or so videogames I've played fully. I've gotten the hang of the combat system and how to deal with random traps throughout the world. But you just can't beat stupid rng, especially when it has lasting consequences. And don't get me started on dialogue choices that sound WAY different than what they actually do. Viva la Dirt League did a video on that, and I'm pretty sure this game was the main inspiration for it. 4/10
@@resident1123 And then? To be in the minority means to be wrong? How old are you? If you study some history you may actually find out that most of the times is the majority to be wrong, or maybe study some statistics (look into the Pareto principle for example).
@@cartoonvideos5 There is a difference between 'reload spam' and actually knowing how to play. Most who find it easy either really know what they're doing or just reload spam for the best outcome in their favor. Newish folks who play D&D type games certainly won't find it easy unless they abuse 'reload spam'.
And how many rpgs you played to call this a good rpg? This game is boring af Just closed it today in 170 hrs and not opening again, 10 years of patching won't fix an uninteresting story with 0 variety and gameplay that is just as interesting as watching grass grow not to mention lazy written characters the game is a cheap copy of old bioware games story wise, it even tries to copy characters from me/dao but does it pathetically bad
I love this game, and I can acknowledge there are some flaws because no game is perfect, Larian does a great job on keeping up with fixes. It's inevitable with a game of this size and with all these options. That being said, maybe you just don't like RPGs? The point of this game is that it is meant to run like DnD but in video game medium. So the dice rolls, managing stats, being strategic with turn based combat, exploring and using stats to get different outcomes etc is all intentional. The part about the chest being trapped and blowing you up... your characters told you it was trapped and the chest glowed orange. That's your sign to disarm it. This is a story based game, so it makes no sense to skip the dialogue. Also, if you're not playing for the story I don't understand why you reload when a fight is initiated. Remember this game is meant to run like a DnD campaign, so story and characters is important. Also it's set in a universe that is already established in DnD lore. It would be very unfaithful to have companions that you never learn about, or you had this huge quest to embark on but never got to see it play it properly. The marketing for this game was very honest. It was available in early access years ago and everything they promised has been shown. Personally, I just think you don't like immersive RPGs. Which is totally fine, not everyone is going to like the same sorts of games.
A fair comment but there are quite a few assumptions here. Single-Player RPG is my largest collection of games and what I’ve spent a great deal of time playing. Baldur’s Gate 3 is not my first RPG and I think the idea that it is, helps people rationalise my opinion of it. I’ve played and enjoyed many other RPGs. I just don’t think this is a good one. Again, I’ll re-address this point, I didn’t skip through dialogue. I show a clip of me skipping through previously read dialogue, to show how much text there is to read. If I said in my video, “there’s a lot of text”, but only provided 1 or 2 sentences in the edit, the point would fall flat really. I say in the video that I have 4 hours of dialogue so, it wouldn’t have been that much if I skipped through it all like people keep on saying. Regardless thank you for your comment and for conducting yourself kindly :D
@@CGJournalist What you forget is, that BG3 is not just a RPG, it is a cRPG. Either classic or computer role play game with quite some differences to just as RPG titled games. If you just go by RPG, you would also throw Fallout in the same pot as Dark Souls.
@@CGJournalist This game is a very specific type of RPG though. A CRPG based on the D&D 5e ruleset. Most of the things you dislike stem from this game being D&D5e, you might like single player RPG's but not like this specific type. All rpg's of this genre play in the pretty much exact same way, dice roll's, stats, stat checks, turn based, managing your party etc. and almost all of them have a massive amount of dialogue. Maybe this sorta RPG just isn't for you.
@@kenseryew My dude, what kinda take do you think that is? That's like me complaining about the game design and stupid dialogue in a Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Masters game when in reality I just have no idea why I'm playing a fucking virtual card game. The game was marketed ad nauseam as being infinitely replayable, with your first playthough taking over 100 hours. Did you honestly fucking think a BALDURS GATE GAME was going to be a first-person extract shooter?
When you said "I do not give a **** about how these fictional characters feel, or what they're going through that should not be the focus of your game." that is the whole point of D&D by the way. The characters and the role you like to play make up the tale. If you do not care about them then the game is not for you!
My position is that, you never go into a game already caring about the characters, unless they're from something else. Well-written characters make you care over time. Either a game will do this well or it will flop. With the current social agenda, I'm a very hard sell so, anything that's even remotely associated with being "woke" completely turns me away. I've seen a lot of people tell me that "RPGs" aren't for me but, the problem I have isn't with the genre. I don't like the appeal that this game has towards the current mainstream. I believe a lot of people are made uncomfortable by it but remain silent because, a disliking towards some of the ideas in this game speaks to a broader community of extremely opinionated humanitarian activists, that will respond to, even slight negativity, with complete outrage. From my prospective the herd mentality surrounding this game was always obvious and the feedback from this video is unsurprising. I don't mean to suggest that you "yellmo2646" are a part of that herd, I'm just trying to explain where my disliking comes from and hopefully after putting it like this, you won't agree with me, but at least understand why someone my have an opinion like this. I care more about the gameplay than the sexual reproduction organ between these fictional character's legs and I'm completely unmoved by their emotional outbursts. While simply giving an honest opinion and expressing how I feel about Baldur's Gate 3, I've been accused of rage baiting and insulted. It seems the woke community is only accepting of all ideas and opinions... that are their own.
Oh no, you are one of those people that think BG3 isn't immersive enough because it's "woke", aren't you? I hate to break it to you, but the world this game is set in has always been like that, people in this setting pretty much don't care about the sexuality of others because they are used to crazier stuff to go down, it's part of the lore and in my opinion it makes it more immersive. Also, i bet you have never played D&D before, most if not all of the tables i have played with have a few LGBT people in them. This game was made for us D&D fans, so it's safe to say they made this for their target demographic, not everything is a conspiracy.
Nah he's totally right. I felt the exact same way. Granted, every time I tried to play I would start to nod off so I only made it to the druid's grove before I uninstalled. 6 hours of play time, restarted once hoping it'd grab me. I didn't care about any of them at all, no one I talked to made me say "I want to know more about x". I just didn't care at all, probably because I was already bored when I met them. I was bored about 10 minutes after the opening cinematic. Overhyped garbage. I appreciate that the developers aren't scummy like most are today, I absolutely love turn based games, and I love D&D. If I were in the market for a choose your own adventure audiobook I'd consider attempting to play this again. Even then though probably not. It's so fucking boring. I love cRPGs as well...I don't know what it is because I loved Pillars of Eternity. Larian games make me sleep. I know I played Divinity OS1 but I don't remember anything about it. I tried to play DOS2 and never made it off of the island in the start for the same reasons, so mind numbingly bored I kept falling asleep within 45 minutes of booting it up. BG3 same thing. The entire time I was playing both DOS 2 and BG3 I was just thinking about what game I should be playing instead, and end up starting my 50th darkest dungeon campaign.
@ZenMaster2026 No, they are. Like I said I've played Pillars of Eternity, Dragon Age, all of em. It's just Larian games are sooo boring. I hated Elden Ring also.
@@nickr0425 bro what, you played Pillars of Eternity and you call BG3 boring? PoE is a fricking snoozefest in comparison, the story is so convoluted and you care so much less about the story in the end. Also the way you're describing that you only made it the grove and complain that the characters didn't grab your attention. Nothing happened yet in the story at that point, it's like 0,5% of the game. You didn't even try the game, or you're just hating for no reason or out of spite, or you're trolling. In no way did you gave it a real shot.
Didn't you check any videos of gameplay at all before buying? I would never buy a game just based on comments. It wasn't possible 25years ago but nowadays we're just drowning in videos of all kinds, it's easier to make the right choice before spending your money on a game
@@raphaelbovey2513no most sheep just buy and form options later. Dude probably thought he was getting Skyrim 2.0 but got a turn based dnd rpg. Most of these people don’t read that’s also why they hate this game
It’s crazy that gaming has become so bad that people gaslight themselves into believing this game is amazing when it’s simply good at best. Average characters and average dialogue. Not to mention the horrible rng combat is just out right immersion breaking. Mediocre game.
I've forced myself to play during the alpha for many hours, but I couldn't, and tried again when the game was released and I've stopped again. This game is just boring and too cliché with an awful gameplay.
i don't like the game at first, never play dnd before. But this game is growing on me and i actually finish my first run and on my second run now. I even start playing the actrual dnd with my friends. One of the things that i like most is that ur action in the game actually have consequences, it just make things so interesting
It doesn’t though … like an any meaningful way you still end up in the same place with one of two outcomes you save the world or your or you die and you save the world. Nothing really changes…..
@@clifflittle460 I meant there are so many endings for the npcs, not just the companions, yes there are only a few ending for the game, but It's more like it has so many ways to get to the Ending and it's has a lot of meaningful side Quest, not just asking u to delivery an item from 1 place to another.
@@clifflittle460 You're like 1% right. There is an overarching story and the final moments are usually similar through most playthroughs just because you obviously have to overcome (or join) the looming threat that guides the urgency of the whole game, but apart from that, there is just about no limit to the differences in story or places and characters you may or may not meet and then how those characters may or may not develop all based on your actions. Let alone how that all plays into what you experience, see, do, and the story beats that follow throughout your journey. On my fourth run now in Honour mode and I still have barely touched all that this game has to offer.
@@Zen-ku4yp no he’s right. There is no overarching charge like non I mean you can do the side quests and change small things but most if not all the side quests are mind numbingly boring so why would you. You also don’t get anything good from them so why would you.
I am an older player who completed games such as Ultima Underworld I & II, Might & Magic, etc. i bought BG 3 because of it’s reviews. I agree with every point in the video 🤷♂️. I am not happy though, I wanted to love this game.
this for me 100% except I pre-ordered it as soon as it was available. One of my biggest gamer regrets. I wanted to love it too, and I can sort of like certain parts of it, like the combat encounter variety and I can see the overall quality in most regards, solidifying it as a true AAA rpg game. HOWEVER, the writing is bad. I have friends who are of the opinion that this is the greatest game ever though (who never played anything RPG before the witcher 3). Lets also not forget the regrettable character assassination of Viconia and Saverok (more of a WotC problem than Larian, but still they could have just not included these characters). The writing is the biggest turn off, the inconsistent tone of comical with serious. Previous Larian games had this same problem and I hoped and prayed, in vain, that BG3 wouldn't have this issue. It not just did, it was worse. The rest of the game is 9 or 8/10
Of course it's boring if you're not into these kinds of games, it's gotten such positive reviews because its a great game in its specific genre. Good games don't have to be good for every gamer what?
And it has the amount of good reviews because it made some things so damn good people unfamiliar with that genre could ignore their initial flaws with the game.
Sometimes that’s the case. Ironically, Diablo 4 is great for a wide variety of gamers with different tastes. It’s the ARPG No life’s who hate it. They prefer Path of Exile, Last Epoch, Grim Dawn…etc. Call of Duty and Madden gamers like the new Diablo.
Thats not a excuse,i am into these type of games but this game was simply just not it and the dialogue is godawful and long that u are most likely to skip
Hear Hear! I spent 8 hours playing the game, no bugs, everything is fine on the technical side. But what takes me out of the game again and again is the endless romance parts. You can't throw a stone without some party member getting romanced. That is the game breaker for me. I want to play D&D, not having a romantic fling with my PC. Haven't touched the game since.
Actually loved Divinity Original Sin 2, did multiple runs on it, group or lone wolf, highest difficulty and multiple classes played, aswell as some mods to spice things up after first vanilla run was done. After that, I tried Bg3 thrice, and everytime I came back to it, I couldn't keep myself focused on the game after like 30 / 40 hours.. last run I just went alt+f4 after 5 / 6 hours, just because I missed Divinity OS2 so much and the game's mechanic itself felt better than BG3. I can't say I fully agree with your opinions on this vid, but I agree on the fact that I got way to hyped by friends and people overall on the web, and I regret it.
a much needed critique game is toxic positivity bubble but its very flawed and honestly dialogue being weak is a giant flaw it is "modern' in all the wrong ways, doesn't feel much like a true sequel which is damning
A D&D player, video maker, and a Bauldur’s gate lover here. Solid video essay and appreciate the work you put into it, but this game clearly isn’t marketed toward you. Many of the things that are your main critiques I would say are what many players look forward to in this game. I appreciate it because it’s so different than 90% of games out there and to play devils advocate here, if you’ve never played a table top game and are expecting a typical video game experience you will be disappointed and you should know what you’re buying. Good of you to turn certain people away from playing with your review because it could save people money. BUT your critiques fall on deaf ears for the majority of the world it seems.
“Majority of the world” apparently is Reddit, metacritic and the woke GOTY ceremony. In reality The majority of gamers will never play this boring trash. Get out of your tiny internet bubble. Baldurs Gate, Elden Ring, It takes two, Last of Us 2 are Not good games. And are not what blue collar people play. Which is the Silent Majority.
@@kevinfinnerty8414 That guy appreciates the criticisms I made and was just saying that most people wouldn't agree. Which is further substantiated and verified by the other comments, dislikes and awards it has won. It's rare that someone will disagree with you and yet, still try find value in what you're saying. I don't think this person is in a bubble at all. Their comment was very fair.
@@kevinfinnerty8414 Every game you listed is good except for Elden Ring. I'm a blue collar gamer, and I want to relax after work. Why would I ever play a game that's really hard?
I played several crpgs and enjoyed them including the first two baldur’s gate games and didn’t enjoy this one? Also, How exactly is he a victim? He is just voicing his opinion on a game that goes against the popular narrative. That’s it.
Mate I've just bought it, some people got too much free time on their hands, it's too complicated, combat turn based is archaic and just plain boring... The graphics are good but the characters are ugly and the companions I really couldn't care about, how it beat Tears of the kingdom is beyond me
Here we see a wok casual gamer that enjoys a game just to be part of the "tribe", and comments bs just to be part of the "tribe". Are you still playing the game btw? I doubt, and if so, maybe you deserve it.
You are 100% right how in the world did this get GAME of the year. Turn based combat is the worst. Spending all that time creating a character you can barely see fight sucks. The camera angles are horrible.
Thanks for helping me make my mind up with this game. In a single player game I don’t want to have to micromanage 3 other characters as well especially as I’m new to D&D.
No worries, I'm glad to have had that kind of influence. I personally really enjoyed the Witcher game series but for the most part, the fantasy genre is often more of a cash grab.
@@deceiver444 That's a cope. Game constantly irritates you with party characters dropping their issues and wanting to romance. Just after the hag fight, the green lady interrupted me to say "I want to taste you" (Shown in the video). And there's a lot less freedom than people claim. Your choices tunnel you in to one method of play and at times, if it doesn't go in your favour, there are spikes in difficulty as a result. For example, the whole early game, I was creeping around, stealth killing my foes. Until the goblin village, where the game prevented me from playing this way (Also shown in the video). Much more freedom in games like Skyrim and Elden Ring.
The game is amazing - however If a game doesn't have captivating combat atleast or the conversations take too long I can see why someone would be bored. That is not the case here tho this games dialogue keeps everyone amused and entertained.
I was ghosted by old friend because I said more less what you said in this video. I don't like the game, because instead of playing a game, I need to study stuff, load game and talk to all NPCs all the time. And the worst is that I can use spells only sometimes, which forces me to constantly camp, where I need to talk to everybody. Game isn't that bad, but I don't like to play it. Divinity Original Sin was better, it contained less of that stupid sheet
Well, you are right, all of you. I don't talk with the guy. I don't even play games anymore, have other things on my head. He's a big fan of BG, so probably felt personally offended. Doesn't matter anymore
That's the weird thing with BG3. Despite being quite niche and nerd oriented in its complexity and mechanics, it almost immediately appealed to a very wide audience of gamers. Larian's CEO was the first one surprised at the game's mainstream success. He was confident the game would do ok but never imagined it would sell that much.
I agree. 50+ hours and ... I'm not enjoying it. It's just dull Any time I can see that a character can level up..., my heart sinks Time to try something different, i think. Shame it cost me fifty quid
From your complaint it seems that "strategy" and "purer" RPG games are really not your cup of coffee. Hey everyone has a preference. But what you listed are a "you" problems and not objective faults of the game.
Thank you for synthesizing what I couldn't put into words myself. Never felt like I was ever having fun during my 20 hours. Felt super confused with having to manage every classes spells. Combat always made me feel like should be doing something more creative, but when I tried to put something more creative to action it wouldn't work, or would cause some worse unforeseen side effect. And yeah everyone is cringe
As someone who loves RPG's and fantasy stories with in depth characterization, freedom and beautiful graphics, I almost bought this game. The hype surrounding it was deafening. There were literally no negative reviews. Until this video. Thank you, I think I will put off buying it because although I love story driven, choose your own adventure RPG's, I hate hate hate turn based combat. I prefer games with battles in real time. Turn based games break immersion for me. Too bad, because it seems like the story may be amazing, but I buy game to play them, not study them.
I honestly thought the exact same before I bought Baldurs gate thinking the turn based will be a drag as I HATE turn based however it doesn’t break the immersion at all, if anything it sinks you into it
@@LerppunenI absolutely love the combats in BG3 and I'm glad that, contrary to what you stated, they're not just a "small part". Sure there's lots of other things to do in this game than slaughtering whoever you want to beef with, and there's even many different ways you can avoid combat on some occasions, but fighting remains an important part of bg3 and a key component of its appeal, surprisingly even towards a fair portion of people usually not too fans of turn based mechanics
I was expecting you to just nitpick things, but you surprised me. You actually had good points. How dare you go against the hive-mind which is BG's fan base? Thank you for a great video mate.
I agree with you 100%. I asked for a refund 2.7 hours in so I can't talk about much but I have to say : - the movement in this game is absolutly atrocious, clunky and unresponsive. - camera is awful and doesn't position itself, Feels like playing N64 or Playstation when we had to move the camera ourselves. - too many spells and skills to begin with , they should come as the game goes on. - jumping and other movment abilities can't be used outside of the menu. - too many corpses and boxs to loot, waste of time. - combat has too much rng On the positive side : - Dialogues and characters are well made I feel like BG3 is more a roleplay simulator than an actual game. That being said I'm really happy so many ppl are enjoying it , it's just not a game for me.
BG3 is absolutely a role play simulator. One of the best you can find in video game form so far. And surprisingly it even managed to appeal to a mainstream audience, which I find all the more crazy since it's defo not targeted at RPG noobs in the first place.
After 30+ hours I gave up, near the end of only act 1. It felt painful to push on. Just realised that this wasn’t my type of game. Never did enjoy the dnd format tbh.
Hilarious how people will want to crucify you over an opinion. State of the world, I guess. Spot on, though. Turn based games are time consuming and I personally don't have a problem with them, BUT when the dialog drags on for no reason, that doesn't make it better. The dialog is also not very well written, some of the voice actors help, but in general it's a mess. But anyway, back to the turn-based combat, it can be very finicky in this game when trying to select a target sometimes. Overall, the game is overrated. It's just a complete game at release and that's the standard we're at now. Just be complete and they'll sing your praises.
My huge issue is arbitrary rules that any semi-reasonable DM would be lax on, but the game can’t because it’s a game. I’m trying to shoot an enemy that I have line of sight on, but the game says no, I’m 1 meter off from where I need to be. Very annoying. I want to talk to someone I’m fighting to stop fighting them. Nope. Walked 1 meter further than I meant to? RIP, everyone is dead.
Exactly! For example, Sacred Flame in 5e is unique for not requiring line of site. It's a mediocre cantrip, but it's nice that it has that little ability to give it a niche. BG3 requires line of site. Why? Why would they just remove the spell's niche? Did they literally get the rules of the game wrong? Early D&D literally had a whole mechanic where you could drop treasure or food to be given a % change to pacify an enemy and end combat. Why wouldn't BG3 have something like that? I hate the game because it's a poor adaptation of D&D, it's a poor successor to Divinity: Original Sin 2, and it's an even poorer successor to Baldur's Gate 2.
@@youcantbeatk7006 Sacred flame in 5e reads: "Flame-like radiance descends on a creature that you can SEE within range.'' Its niche is that it ignores cover.
Did you ever try right clicking on a trap or trapped chest and then pressing disarm? also if you think the dialogue is shit / theres too much of it, just skip it by pressing space.
Finding traps has a very small radius. In most cases, the character is notified of a trap half a step away from it, but does not stop moving. For a game that spent a few years in early access and a few months after release, this is very crooked.
That's what I did for most of the dialogue. But I'm just very baffled, because I don't remember the dialogue in BG2 being nearly as bad. My memory is a bit rusty but I thought BG2 actually had quite solid dialogue. I'm not sure why the devs decided they needed to make everything either about social commentary or lets smash. And the way the game railroaded you into certain decisions/paths regardless of what you did in Act 3 felt very jarring. In Act 2 it didn't feel like that was the case at all. To some extent this has always been an issue with Larian games and maybe even the genre as a whole, but it felt very egregious in this case. I think BG3 is a good game, maybe even a great one, but I find the near universal praise quite strange. I don't think it's quite on par with BG2 and I doubt it will be looked at as favorably in the future.
@@urgian how is it crooked if it forces you to be careful and pay attention when you know there are traps ahead, it's part of the immersion. Never had any issue with it. As a typical tactic I use my highest perception char to walk in front by himself and scout all the traps, maybe disarm ones that could not be avoided and then the rest of the group generally avoids all of the traps automatically except for some very rare occasions when there's very little space.
It's so boring, I played it till the grimforge golem (first try) in Act1 or 2, played good games like Robocop and deleted it entirely after it lay around for a year or so. Graphics good, music + voices good, but shitty written characters and stupid story + actions. Like who in the right mind would befriend a parasite inside a parasite (Astarion) and other narcissistic assholes like Lae'zel... The whole story plots don't make any logical sense... The combat system is so shitty, even with disabling the "balanced rolls" you get up to 7 misses in a row, while every single enemy makes 10-20 dmg in a single turn - crippling unbalanced gameplay. Then there are fights with up to 20 enemies, where you feel like your hair grows a few centimeters after you've done all the repeating and boring same skills over and over again, you just feel robbed of lifetime after 10-30 minutes of fight against a bunch of low-level minions - just give it an auto-fight option with priority list like the better D&D games (for example Pathfinder: WotR). It's the _worst_ D&D game I've ever played in 38 years.
You've said it all, story-wise we (as the player) are just the psychiatrist/nurse of crazy people (with attention-seeking behavior) who would die without us. The dialogues feel really weird when our character is talking to someone (dialogues between other characters are okay-ish) Gameplay-wise the game really punishes you for trying new things if you are not an absolute nerd about every math of the game. The dice system looks cool on paper, but in practice it just slow down the entire experience. Even the design and how the game works is painfull to learn and to use (even when i mastered it).
The problem is that Larian is possibly one of the most overrated studios in the industry. In BG 3 the Act 1 might be good, but even now in November 2024 the Act 3 is still an experience breaking buggy mess. Excellent! But they still have managed to sell the first Act very well with a lot of hype from media. Looks like Bg 3 will forever remain a promising build unless of course BG 3 Definitive Edition (at last!) will announced as currently the game in overall is not in any definitive condition. And this is typical for Larian - to sell builds, not games.
What crpg doesn’t have slow pacing? It comes with the genre. Just because you can’t properly click the right things on the screen or are too lazy/stupid/ uninterested to read does equate to valid criticism l. It just means you don’t like it, you not liking something dosent mean it’s overrated
No 😂😂😂y’all sound like simpletons that never played anything besides Skyrim. This isn’t a jrpg this isn’t Diablo it’s an actual turn based rpg. Only played this game for 2 months so far and y’all must need your hand held for everything.
Spending too much time managing my inventory is my big complaint. Why do I have to individually move each piece of food to my camp in order to reduce my weight limit?
select top item and then select botom item while holding shift to pick all items in those rows and you can move all of them at once *there should've been help list somewhere in a corner of inventory with all the key combinations for easier workaround
I love Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 (probably more than 1000hours, multiple playthroughs over the years), but my time of playing Baldur's Divinity 3 is 20 min at most and I have no desire to install that garbage ever again. The best thing I can say about BGDivinity 3 is intro cinematics are very good and that's all.
Hey, late to the vid. I just wnat to say as someone who really likes this game that i agree with a lot of what you say. The load times are annoying as hell. The characters are basic. Movement is slow and a pain in the ass. The amount of systems and spells you have to manage while first learning the game are not explained well and are ridiculous. Having to disarm a fucking million traps really feels boring. The first time round i played this game i was so frustrated with how many times this game would put you in a room with 20 dudes you know you're gonna beat but have to spend 18 minutes fighting them and the camera is a dickhead. But after biting down on the parts i didnt like i found a lot i really did like. Just the amount of unique situations, options, and impact you have in this game compared to something like mass effect 2 where the game pretends to be a roleplaying game but instead you are forced into a lot of non negotiable shit like not being able to tell anybody no or make any real impacts on the narative/plot. Or a game like fallout 4 where the game just bends to your will and refuses to have consequences for anything ever. Baldurs gate really felt like what you chose to do actually had a real narative impact and the game let you do basically anything and would acomade for that with the world and characters in it reacting to your decision like how people would instead of video game characters who are designed to never go against what the player would want. That alone was enough for me to stick around and then i learned the combat systems, and cool out of the box solutions for problems inside and outside of combat and i had a lot of fun with this game. This game does a lot of shit weirdly and annoyingly but in the face of what it does well, i couldn't say my experience wasnt dope 😎. Nice editing by the way dude good video 👍
Yeh i dont understand why this game is liked so much. Im 50 hrs in and yeh. I like it less each time i play. A lot of times the concersations dont make sense either. "hey man i like your shoes" "those are fighting words here" enter into battle against 7 guys. Barely kill 6 and then 9 more walk up out of nowhere. Thats just one thing about the game that sucks. I hate having to reload repeatedly because of crap design. If i die in bloodborne its because i didnt have the skill to win that battle. In this game it can happen because of unlogical dialog choices, bad rolls of the dice, or because of terrible battle design that causes you to lose because of glitches. I just dont see how this game got the hype it got and why so many people love it. I love a good crpg man but this crap is.....well crap.
Lmfao you really think you dying is bg3 is not because of a skill issue? This game isn’t that hard and I play on honor mode rules with all spell casters and no tanks and rarely even have to reload a save.
I agree with you. I love the story and even sometimes the combat. But it can get super frustrating and the lack of auto saves. I have had to repeat hours of gameplay because I get ambushed and I get completely destroyed at the easiest difficulty. Then load back 2 hours of gameplay which makes it so hard to continue. People can say “Get better bro” perhaps I should, but that’s also not a fair counter point too
Aw man, you hate to see it. One of the first things I found was the quicksave keybind xD. I've lost loads of progress on games in the past so I know what that feels like. Hope you're all caught up properly.
100% I wouldn't put this game in my top 500 I don't see why so many people think it's the best game of all time. And it's not like I haven't enjoyed turn based games before.
I played this game for 45 hours. Tried my best to like it: read the dialogues, so I am able to follow the story, advanced slowly exploring everything... and man, for me is very obvious that this game was designed by someone who has not played a lot of games in their lives, besides some stuff like FIFA or golf simulators. UI is awful, camera is bad, very bad. Game's performance is extremally bad. Is top down view (almost), so render distance don't need to be high and there are no need for many calculations on every frame, as the most complex part: the battles, are turn based. And still, games run like shit on a very decent PC. The game has an alarming amount of glitches and bugs, that should only be seen in beta games. And some of them game breaking. Then the story, well I leave it for personal tastes. But for my own, story is lame. I have seen side quests in other games with better stories than the main story in BG3. Also, game is very slow, but not for dialogues, which you could skip, but for those animations, like when a npc is searching for a character that became invisible: 10 second looking around. WTF.
I loved it when it first came out and I finished it without save scumming at all. But when I went to replay, I wanted to do things differently and I couldn't figure out which class to choose. So I would get 1/2 way through Act 1 and then restart because I didn't like that class. So I was playing Act 1 over and over again and now I'm sick of Act 1. I wanted to find everything on my 2nd playthrough and the furthest I got was with a Dark Urge character. Added more story. But I just can't do it anymore. I've taken breaks, played other games and I want to go back to it but the thought of going through Act 1 again fills me with dread. It's just like the opening sequence in Skyrim. Why do I have to start by riding so long in a cart on my way to my own beheading???
I'd say it all comes down to false depth. At least with older games you aren't bombarded with walls of texts and cutscenes. They get tiring and the massive size of the worlds does not make it more fun, just tedious after you've been through it once.
Throughout this review, all I really heard was "I don't like role-playing games". There are plenty of games where all you do is run around and whack stuff. This game isn't one of those. Personally, I find running around and whacking things incredibly monotonous. (Also, the reloading thing is your personal choice - you're *supposed* to just run with whatever the dice hand you, in an "oh well, that's life" manner - that's how D&D works)
Not patient but interest. Some people skip cutscenes and love challenging gameplay. While some just want cutscenes with less gameplay like an interactive movie. I really hope witcher 3 use D&D gameplay because hack & slash is not for me.
theres a word for that its called: jobless. RPGs do not respect your time so ofc they cater to the unemployed and pathetic people. If you are over the age of 18 and playing over 30 hours of videogames a week, there's a 99.9% chance you are a BUM. the 0.01% is for successful streamers that get paid six figures to do that shit.
I loved morrowind but this requires too much patience? I'm noticing this game is beloved by a very niche crowd, and they are trying to make everyone feel lesser for not being willing to waste 200 hours on inventory management.
All gameplay aside, I took my time in act 1 like my friends told me to. Completed every quest, even got their help, (besides of course the ones that will auto fail cuz RP). I gotta say, all of the writing is trash. They only know how to use big words and not how to structure a story. The “Find a cure” quest totally knocks off the atmosphere of the 1st act. Coming into the game with this quest everything feels way too high stakes. I’m not interested in any of the characters or what they say because I want to find this cure. I’m used to unforgiving games killing me very very quickly with plot devices similar to the illithid tadpole. So here I am assuming that I am going to turn into a mind flayer within 2-3 long rests. Overall this just puts a bad taste in my mouth and I am overloaded with too much high stakes cosmic horror, for a story to properly be set up. Anything that starts with bad storytelling is immediately no fun, especially a DnD campaign. This whole story through act 1 is so f*king boring so far and I do not like it. I don’t care about any of the characters, they are uninteresting, generic and archetypal. This seems like “baby’s first DM session” with the way the story is set up. Throwing you straight into having to save the world instead of letting you get acquainted with the world or pace yourself. Overall, the important thing to remember is that yes ofc they are trying to replicate the fun factor of DnD to a video game. The kicker is, me a DnD 5e enthusiast (BG3 combat gameplay ain’t bad), did not have very much fun with the story of act 1. Overall the story does not do its job of pulling me into the world and making me CARE. YES you have to MAKE the audience care. If I do not have a reason, I will not care. The characters are not fun to talk to, learn about, quest with (aside shadowheart, the only tolerable character). I don’t care about how Gale slept with a god, I don’t care about Astarion becoming a thrall, I don’t care about La’zel (I hate her so much), I don’t care about any of the NPC’s or their problems. I’m not exactly sure what it is, but damn their stories are BORING. The story of BG3 is Aggressively mid as far as RPG’s go. Pathfinder series, Pillars of Eternity, KOTOR 1&2, Underrail, and many more are examples of WAY better stories. These writers just seem like they know a few big words, took a basic poetry class, thought of a possibly cool antagonist and then just kinda winging it and not in a good way. No characterization or development, just one dimensional “I’m the good guy choice” and “i’m the bad guy choice”. Which is just no fun and is an illusion of story depth.
I wanted to put this here before I finished the video to see what I agreed with, and I gotta say I think video bro might just not like turned based games all that much. Larian doesn’t do it great tbh. Their enemy design is shit. But otherwise I would say dungeons and dragons is absolutely about what the characters are going through, and their overall arc. That’s what makes people play the tabletop game, and makes the characters interesting in any single piece of media that you view. Otherwise they aren’t interesting just highly useful if they are “good” and have no depth. You clearly have just noticed that the characters have no depth. That’s why you don’t care about any of them. Larian didn’t write any reasons for you to care. They don’t even really let you explore the depths of your own characters personality beyond the classic arrangement pioneered by bethesda- 1 be nice, 2 be nice but sarcastic, 3 be a dick but dont start a fight, 4 start a fight, 5 curated skill choice, 6 leave. It’s boring!!!!!!!!!!!
Im glad I wasn't the only that felt this way about BG3, I actually can't believe this clunky ass game with some of the most hideous gameplay flow won goty. I don't think it's the worst game I ever played but man it is nothing like people are selling it to be.
I am giving this game up 5 hours in. I was already kinda annoyed with all the inventory and spell management in Divinity OS2, but that game, also made by Larian, had a much better way of guiding you into understanding it's mechanics. You land on an island with no equipment and must first learn to fight with a stick. You get your abilities one after the other instead of just meeting characters that already have 20 spells to choose from. I am not gonna learn 150 spells and abilities all at once, in order to endure slow ass fighting, all that cringy dialogue and endless inventory management. After just 5 hours i am already carrying around countless items, i have no idea what their purpose is, they are messing up my inventory, and it is much too much work to sort them all through. In addition: This game is too much informed by real world poitics. I am not against the inclusion of diverse characters in video games, being gay myself i enjoy having the option to have my male half elf get railed in an orgy by a bunch of male orks and lizzards, but not if those orks and lizzards look like they just came out of a gender studies class. The games characters do not have to look like a pride parade in order for the game to be inclusive. This is way too much pandering. A fantasy world should have a unique aesthetic much more removed from any current real world cultural movements.
I like Larian studios, and even though I'm a fan of the Baldur's Gate series, I will never play this game. I knew I'd feel the same way you do; most likely bored. I highly doubt it is TRULY difficult, and like you pointed out a bloat on spells and choice hides that there isn't really much there when it comes to combat. They only really fall into a few categories anyways so what is the point of having 50 spells. And yeah, the heavy focus on genitalia customization, sex, and relationships could disappear and I would never miss it.
The effort put into the game is spectacular. But the fights are so underwhelming. Compared to divinity 2 , BG3 fights are too easy and straight forward. Compared to BG2, even fighting mobs is more engaging than fighting bosses in BG3.
I just can't bear to look at some of the characters; the non-human women mostly. And it's just REALLY gay, I'm sorry. It's not even an insult or anything it just feels like a gay bar.
Funny how the comments section are an echo chamber for this opinion. Its like people only seek out opinions that align with their own. I respect the opinion but dont agree with it, different strokes and all that.
I'm old enough to remember when games not railroading you and holding your hand with literal on screen directions for every action you need to take, then letting you suffer the consequences of your actions if you didn't bother to pay attention and try to solve problems through your own thinking, was the norm. And frankly the sense of accomplishment when we succeeded because we figured out the solutions rather than just riding the rails was exhilarating. I'm not usually one to dunk on the younger generations wanting instant gratification with no effort, but wow...
I would say that a game not telling you how to play it is a problem. I've had games where they just throw you in, and you have to figure out everything for yourself. It's frustrating if it's not obvious. But not only is BG3 obvious, it has a tutorial. And most things are pretty obvious.
ultra boring combat system + characters that feel like from some TV shows where they hire ppl who are not actors and tell them to act. i care more about trash i took out today in the morning than about any story that was presented to me so far in this game (8 hours, mostly made of shitty 2 long turns and watching animations of running) id say if ppl who refer to themselves as they/them and do not feel like they have any identity were a game they would be bg3 (love u all ppl, do not take your pitchforks)
@@wsrtwetr you're in every comment shitting on the game, man you spend more time on this games videos than people who actually play it. This shit just lives in your head
ur getting a lot of hate in these comments from fans of the game, but coming from someone who hasn't played it yet and was considering buying, this review definitely helped me ignore the hype and give it a pass since "rpg" to me is more akin to something like zelda than this - it seems bg3 really puts the "role playing" in "role playing game" and that's just not my cup of tea, plus when every other review is nothing but praise, we need honest perspective reviews like this to exist
Is this a real review? Too much Story, too many game-mechanics too choose from, characters with depth? If this is a real review I recommend something like Call of Duty....
As much I love Baldurs Gate 2 , I just hate Baldurs Gate 3.Baldurs Gate 3 looks like a fortnite with graphics , and the turn based gameplay is so annoying , and boring.I also think that the story is really much average.Baldurs Gate 2 was like LOTR movie.Baldurs Gate 3 is like Eragon movie mixed with Fortnite
I still really hate the fact that they even called it Baldur's Gate 3. It has pretty much nothing to do with the original games.. There's no bhaalspawns running around.
My problem with BG3 is that it became way too popular and putting unrealistic expectations of how good this game is on people who have never tried game in this genre, causing others to make videos like these. I really would like to hear genuine reasons as to why the game is bad or the flaws with it. But due to its popularity we get complains equivalent of "CoD is too much shooting" or "FFXVi is too much story"
I have played other games in this genre. Cringe dialogue and boring combat are not consistent features of an RPG, only a bad one. It’s convenient that people like you say that I complain about the dialogue but forget the “cringe” part and that I complain about the combat but forget the “boring” part. If I said a first person shooter has clunky controls and is too slow paced, that’s called valid criticism. A far cry from the dimwitted “Shooter game has shooting, boo hoo” that you portray. You don’t understand my points despite the 10 minute video explaining them. I would have played and reviewed Badur’s Gate 3 irrespective of its popularity. I hate seeing comments like this, making these assumptions and discrediting my review. I am as much entitled to my opinion as anyone else and my points deserve more credit or at least, a better debate than your dumbfounded “cod game too much shooty”.
@@CGJournalist Dude you could re-explain your takes over and over again, they're still really bad, whether or not you think they're objective. You can hate all these types of comments you want, but quite literally, from a game design, dialogue, branching storyline aspect, this game is being heralded as the Magnum Fucking Opus of RPG's, because people established in this world for the last 40 years have come to appreciate the nuances the genre brings. Again, this shit isn't for you. Conflating your opinion of the game with a psuedo-critique of the aspects of cRPG dynamics isn't a review. "My experience of this game so far has been pretty negative. The game is held back by weird game design choices and an overall a limited functionality. It goes out of its way to make things as boring as possible and if you don't see it yet, come the end of this video, you'll see what I see." --- this is the polar opposite of what literally 97 percent of 1.4 million people who have COMPLETED the game feel. You're entitled to your very wrong opinion.
@@CGJournalist your takes are fucking stupid and awful for the most part. There are some things I agree as someone who beat the game multuple times but srsly blaming the game for being too woke when theres racism, genocide, slavery, and satanic ruitials is wild to me. this game simply is not for u and thats fine doesnt mean the game is bad
You spend the general bulk of your time doing random boring bullsh*t. I wanted to like this game so bad, but it's so f*cking boring. This took balls to release btw, props to you.
I agree! Omg! I am so bored playing this game and I am an old (45) gamer who played wow and even everquest back in the day. I am no stranger to rpgs. I am so bored and annoyed with the underdark, I expected something wayyyy coolet more like in Salvatore's book homeland.
I am right there with you. I also read Homeland and quite nearly all of the other R.A. Salvatore novels written for the Forgotten Realms universe. This 'BG3' does not 'feel' like the Forgotten Realms setting at all. It is a far cry from what the other FR-based PC-games were able to evoke, including even the more mediocre productions. BG 1 and 2, along with their original expansions, play and 'read' like a well-written novel; they manifested the FR atmsophere really well (I would also say the same about Planescape: Torment, which technically plays and reads as a parallel universe to FR). After reading through what all Chris Avellone revealed about the inner-workings of Obsidian Entertainment over at RPGCodex, I can kind of understand now why Wizards of the Coast turned them down and decided to work with another company. However, what we are left with is a hollow shell of the title.
@@lemystere5345 I think its just a modern take or generational thing... Just look at Beamdog's NPCs they added to BG1 and BG2.. They are basically the same kind of bland and boring characters that are present in BG3.
It depends what you are doing for a living. I am the whole time on PC organizing stuff and I don't want to organize stuff in a game. I love strategy games, but they need to be kinda easy to get on.
0:58 I can understand people not liking the pacing of the game. Its more meant to take your time and use elements from the DND tabletop. Since I’m assuming you’re unfamiliar with the tabletop, I can understand how you feel about the speed of the game 1:10 Your point on the dialogue never ending is a bit confusing. It sounds more you weren’t personally satisfied with the characters and story. Perhaps this type of story isn’t meant for you specifically and that’s fine. I feel this point of it comes off a bit rough though, there is plenty of value in good voice acting and character interactions in this game that I think this point undermines. But hey, that’s your take and thats fine. 1:13 Yeah this happens plenty of times, valid point 1:20 While its frustrating to begin that fight while caught off guard, it's a bit odd you opted to just reload the save instead of attempting the fight. That particular encounter has you at a disadvantage sure, but the combat gives you tools along with 3 other companions to handle these kinds of battles, in terms of party count that encounter had you evenly matched in numbers alone. Nothing wrong with trying to overcome the challenge, you can just learn from the fight if you lose and try again. That was probably not the best footage to illustrate that point I would say. 1:33 this is an interesting segment. The Phase Spider Matriarch is a difficult fight for sure, but alot of the times, you opted to reload the saves when your party was for the most part healthy or got caught while stealthing, one reload was a complete party wipe I did see. Just wanted to get some insight on the reasons for these resets. May I also ask what difficulty you chose for this game? 1:45 eh, this is kinda a moot point. Theres a fast travel point at the grove you could use. Its more a result of your forgetting some mechanics and not selling your loot. Funny meme about the gate at least tho. 2:03 this is more of an awareness issue I would say. Yeah the black screen didnt help you there at first when the roll happened, but it is a bit silly you didnt question why the chest was glowing orange after your character mentions a trap. 2:25 The point on party managment I would say is more of a preference based take there. For sure its alot of information to take in, especially if you havent played DND. But again, this sounds more like your type of game is more Solo RPG when the point of this game is more group and party oriented. Playing with some friends can also help offset this issue, I’ve found playing this game with friends to be a lot of fun and only having to worry about our individual characters. I wouldn’t say as a absolute point its “tedious and boring”, it takes from a system with a beloved fandom that has been played for many years, I would really stress your points emphasize your opinion than saying it like its fact through more appopriate word choicing emphasizing your opinion part of the review where a lot of people are not taking a liking to your video. 3:07 Hit rates are very common in a lot of RPGs. While the system can certainly feel rigged at times, it makes for interesting tension when chances end up in your favor and your strategies come to fruition. And, your point on careful positioning leading up to this point on hit rates really doesn’t fit with the footage you ended up choosing for this segment, you rushed the boss on his throne in a camp filled with enemies surrounding him in the open, there is higher ground you can take, different equipment and spells to try, but I would say that footage does not display at all your validility in claims on hit rates when you start a fight in the worst possible position. 4:04 The myconid colony tells you these are sl**ers at that camp you wandered into, your point on just walking away is just… silly. Even if you did miss that dialogue, it shouldnt be hard to figure out these are hostile enemies when they mention "KILL THE Sl**ves” in that dialogue scene. 4:12 Again, just try the fight. I don’t understand your need to constantly reload. 4:28 Yeah you mentioned this back on 1:10 but I do agree on this point, its not always easy to interact with. The camera isn’t perfect either so I will shake your hand on those points. 4:52 yeah no defending that one, the game kinda lies there lol, thats my first time seeing Gale do that too lol. 5:40 eh, I feel like i need some elaboration on this one. The game gives you a lot of options in handling fights. The goblin camp for instance can allow you to interact with some statues to collapse on the goblins, go up on the rafters and shoot them on higher ground, using barrels like you did in your example footage, etc. I feel your point on your consistent strategy not always working is not quite understandable either. DND encourages a lot of different solutions beyond just the same action over and over again, in fact its cool to tackle some encounters in different ways your character might not be proficient in. 6:01 There are ways to solve encounters, boiling this point down to “most players wont figure out on their own” is again, not the best wording when it comes to reviewing this game. Theres a reason so many people are in love with this game, it clearly isnt meant for you given how you feel about the game’s mechanics. Nothing wrong with disliking the game, but looping in “most players” comes across like an overexaggeration if im gonna be honest here. 6:32 So…. what does this mean? This point a bit of a disservice to the voice actors and developers in the time of developing these characters to say its all “cringe". 7:20 Eh, that reaction was awful man. Just enjoy the music, its a person being inspired to play music again after watching her teacher die in front of her from a pack of gnolls. This reaction is just immature and doesn’t come across very well on your points about disliking the story when the scene presents a very nicely composed song and solid character setup for the bard girl. What exactly is embarassing to you about this scene in particular? 9:55 Good writing should not be the focus of your game? Thats a uh, odd point to end on. The video just ends on a rough note without a final reflections or something to tie it together. This ending just elicits a very sour tasting ending. Plus your claims on “It’s DND, it's an escape from reality”, does not resonate with me at all when you follow up not caring about the characters or NPCs. Maybe you play the game differently, but DND can be a lot more than just combat. It can also about connecting with your party and the NPCs and world your DM builds as well. It goes back to my point on overexaggerating “all players”, this here is an overexaggeration of what you think DND is supposed to be. I feel you especially missed the mark on this ending hence why alot of people aren’t taking kindly to your video in the comments. Anyways, if you read this, just wanna say I hope this video is a good learning experience for you as a creator. You’ve got good potential for sure, good memes and good voice overall. I would just be mindful of how you come across in your reviews as “matter of fact”, at least that was how I interpreted it at first. I hope I came across more critical of your video than negative, even if there were some points I felt didn’t quite sit well with me from a viewer perspective, so I ask you to not take my reflections as an attack, rather my intention to give more critical feedback than anything else. Take care and keep up the grind my man! Wish you all the best in you endeavors.
No, I greatly appreciate feedback like this. I think it's true sometimes I can be very matter of fact. It's easy to get caught up in trying to prove your point as apposed to just present it. Never thought my video would've warranted this level of moment to moment analysis and I will do my best to learn from the experience. I hope every review I make can feel like an extension from the last. Thanks again! :D
@incredibilis7149 CGJournalist has been quite gracious in responding to your comment, but I find your comment undeservedly patronizing. His review makes fair points, and he backs every point up with examples. Frankly I think your reply just basically boils down to "you don't like something I like, and I can't take it.". Full disclosure: I haven't yet bought or played the game. I've been reading reviews trying to decide what game I should spend my limited resources on (what can I say, sixty bucks is a lot of money for me), and his review actually makes more sense than the positive ones I've read. I mean, the positive reviews all say the story is super awesome, but at the same time this super awesome story somehow isn't quite finished? The devs released the game, and then immediately had to issue MASSIVE patch after MASSIVE patch? After years in EA? It doesn't inspire confidence. Oh, and speaking of things that don't inspire confidence, I listened to the music at 7:20 and I literally did an involuntary cringe. You are wildly generous in your estimation of that drippy, insipid, arrhythmic, atonal, sorry ass quavering that made me want to fill my ears with putty. Perhaps after listening to his pupil sing her teacher lost his will to live and committed suicide by gnolls? Just a thought. Serious question: why do games set in fantasy medieval-ish times or Renaissance-like settings all too often make the music so lousy? And not just this game. The Witcher is terrific, but there was this one cutscene one time where a woman bard was supposed to be singing a poignant ballad about Yennefer and it was hilariously dismal. Don't game devs hire people who truly know the music of that period? I have listened to a fair amount of that type of music, and I think a lot of it is excellent! The dance music can be delightful, and the ballads can raise the hairs on your arm. What gives?
This game is so amazing it’s pretty much ruined other games for me. The fact this game has amazing story, and not a single bad voice actor is beyond amazing. The only negative is the clear drop in quality in act 3, due to budget and writing changes.
I understand your point, everyone has a different opinion, but let me defend this masterpiece (for me). Dungeons and dragons is an amazing game that isn't for everyone, but a constant thing about the people who play d&d is the absurd times we fail our skill cheks, the dices are not on our side, and we can't save and load, the director of the game not let you reroll your dice, ao you have to fail and clean up your mess, that is the fun of d&d, so, at least, when you say you reload to success a dice roll, I twist a little. You need to fail, and you will success also, in real life nothing will be like you want always, I understand your disgust with the battle, but it is how it is, a tactical battle, you need to think to fight, I like your video, hope you play D&D someday Sorry if I say something grammatically wrong, english isn't my first language
Your English is excellent! I hadn't actually considered how the roll fails, simulate a real D&D campaign. That's a very valid point and I appreciate your comment! :D
@@CGJournalist Yeah, some of the most funny dialogue is hidden behind failures (I believe intentionally) because in D&D you are supposed to roll with your failures.
I fully agree with you saying the game is slow and in what ways it's slow, there are absolutely ways that it could be sped up. A sprint button wouldn't really work here but, a speed up time button or faster animations, better camerawork and better door hit-boxes would also be great. On the other hand though, I completely disagree with your statement on the dialog being cringe and the characters being poorly written. The example you gave for the cringe dialog being the tiefling bard fell flat for me. the first part you showed was "bad" on purpose as she was struggling to find words, and the song being one of the first moments in the game that caught me off guard with how good it was. Similarly, Karlach was able to make me actually feel bad for her. Same with all the VAs doing, what I find to be, wonderful work. Though, I must admit, you are right about them being really horny out of the blue, but one big ol' *no* will get them to stop pretty fast, so it's not too big of a problem after the first bits.
Even worse, once you actually GET into the game and characters, you come to the point where the propaganda is so obvious, it’s not even hidden anymore. I really don’t give a shit about what religion you are, if you wish to be an atheist or Satanist go on! But please, just stop saying gods are evil and Hell is real and absolute freedom is pinnacle of every man’s existence. I am not a Satanist, I will never be, and I play my games for fun, not to listen to each one of these characters lowkey moralizing to me every time we talk. Then you manage to push through the propaganda, anti-religious notions and blatant Satanism, telling yourself:”It’s just a game, it’s in the lore!” But then the game suddenly starts pulling out game-breaking bugs such as your characters starting with 0 action points although they’ve literally just been standing in place and not moving, constant FPS drops and blurry textures, and every single encounter in Act 3 is also so difficult, you have no choice but to min-max your build every single time. Fuck. That. I play games for fun, and this game made me uninstall it 10 times already, and I somehow always install it back thinking I’ll find something redeeming about this garbage. Spoiler alert, I never do.
its also weird how they portray Selune and her child. Selune is know to be one of the gods who contacts her believers the most.. AND Ketherick or whatever his name is is a fucking holy man with her powers. meaning selune is on the speed dial, why didnt she awnser? the child/madame, children of gods are usually demigods or above lvl 10 characters who are somewhat more like their parents than mortals children.. which cannot be undone by a tadpole with some magic on it like the bhaalspawn. BG1 and 2 also suffered from this but not as badly.
It’s the same people that said it before. Nothing change, the hype just died down and the Haters are still salty that they’re generic ass games got fxckd
I literally just install the game today, and I have no clue what he's complaining about. I'm already level 3 and found good weapons. I was one who praised it back then, and I keep doing the same (having just played it now).
I think... I hate choice in games, I decide all day at work, in life, what to eat, what to wear and then I want to enjoy my hobby, I'm faced with 15,000 dilemmas... Dark Souls designed it best, "here's a sword and shield, now go fight god motherf*cker"
Woke mobs don't even buy videogames. Suicide Squad, Concord and Dustborn were woke as hell and flopped harder than any other titles for the past few years. Act3 has a few noticeable woke traits in act3 which I didn' like but overall, you can still do the most immoral things in this game, kill women and poc if that's what you like and become a complete sicko that will ruin everything and everyone around him. If BG3 had truly been badly infested by woke shit, the game would have flopped hard like most recent woke video games, comics and movies. Everybody is growing tired of plain activism in entertainment and fortunately for it BG3 is a good game in the first place, despite its few woke touches.
@@deceiver444 What are you on? I work into the industry since a long time, it has never been more wok than now (at the point I'm scared to use certain words to do not get bot-reported, even here on yt). This game is totally wok, not just act3, the fact that you can do sick things doesn't depend on the wok-mindset, it's just a necessity, given the game context, if they would limit the game it would suck even more, considering that the game mechanics were totally bugged at launch, and anyway are boring. The only reason for which this game didn't flop like the other woktrocities is that the role-playing games industry is also superwok, hence it was a perfect marriage, the fanbase was assured. Also, the wokmob tries to celebrate every bs, they tried that with Suicide Squad as well, not always it works, but with the D&D fans they have had better luck.
@@DS-nv2ni - what do you do in fhe industry ? - what is so terribly woke in the first two acts in your opinion ? - DnD has a vast pool of players spread on the whole political spectrum from the right to the left. Doesn't change the fact that if BG3 truly had been pure woke garbage, it would have failed hard. I abhore woke stuff, and even though I immediately noticed various bits of it in BG3, the story/mechanics/branching possibilities and all core elements which make a good crpg were there. And that's the main reason of BG3's massive success : a crpg good enough (and with no micro transactions btw) that even his few woke aspects didn't turn off the majority of players who usually hate the cliché progressive agendas who have been increasingly plaguing modern entertainment for the past few years.
I agree with you, man. I am a big fan of Soulsborne having put more than 1000 + hours in all those games. I enjoyed Skyrim, Dragon Age: Origins so I decided to give this one a try and had high hopes going in. I must say that I agree on most of your points. Gameplay feels too slow and dragging. Dialogs are fine but the amount of them feels overwhelming too. I was enjoying turn based combat but the rng hit chance is boring idea to my liking. All combats were boiled down to "I can roll without saving/loading and get killed/almost killed at the end" or reload and have obliterated all enemies. So it wasn't how skilled I was/how good my decisions were, but rather will Astarion miss this one shot or not.
Why play a character and story based game if you dont care how they feel? I love to read, and this felt like playing a book, but i could choose how the story went. Your criticism is vaild and reasonable. It is not a game for you. I didn't like candy crush, but many people do. We all have tastes
In my personal case, because I do not know them, like anything. It's random people, and the fact that I got to controll their actions feels weird since they are unique and independent people with their own stories and temperament. Have you tried Octopath Traveler? That game provides you a backstory for every playable character in the game (if u want to), the game shows you a flashback so you can meet the characters, their motivations, frustrations, pain, dreams and why are they fighting for. Bg3 just put a bunch of hyperventilated people in front of you and expect you to like them, I don't, they are so mean and weird, they would tell me about their life but why would I want to know in the first place? I don't wanna hear their damn backstory on dialogue, they could make a playable or cinematic so you can get info about them, honestly, it's really boring to hear characters talk for hours, I do love to read, but Im honestly not interested in that amount of speech and text on a turn based rpg.
"You not like words? I like many words. I smart." You say critics of the game are too stupid to appreciate it? If we're gonna assume each other's intelligence based on gaming tastes, seems to me more like fanboys dumb enough to endure it. Victims of hype, playing the latest big thing in genre to keep up with all the memes. Why so much seething and coping every time an unknown youtuber trash talks the current darling for a couple minutes? And it being rather popular means nothing, by that metric the entire RPG genre is worthless next to Flappy Bird.
@@bucketts6148 From using Candy Crush as an example of "different tastes in gaming". More comments like this are littered all around, usually even less subtle.
@Kaucukovnik666 It's an example, my friend, not a question of the reviewer intelligence. Would Fortnite be better or Apex Legends or COD. Pick your position. It doesn't change anything I said. I like the game, and others don't have to is the point. Life is too short to be wasting it on things you don't enjoy doing.
Its a mixed bag for me. Great world, exploration, graphics and customization. Somewhat cringy dialogue with a lot of hornyness does get tiring after awhile (mostly avoidable if you know where to look but sometimes not either). Companions are hit or miss, with some being really entertaining and interesting, while others are downright boring or annoying. The custom character also feels hollow for some reason, the world doesnt let you do a backstory or it doesnt interact with you the same way it does your companions. The game felt way more interesting with origin characters because it felt fleshed out more. The perfect example of this is Tav Warlock vs Wyll, Wyll felt much better to play because the story interacts with your class way more then with a custom character (Dark Urge is the perfect example of a custom character that has personal ties to the story and world, this should of been a thing with regular tav as well). The combat is actually really good but it just feels so slow waiting for turns constantly. Most similar games solve this by just letting you speed up the turns which I felt should of been included in this game for those who maybe wanted to make the encounters a bit faster. I had to get mods to speed up the overworld walking cause it felt super slow getting from one place to another sometimes (It only needed to be a tad faster to make it feel good). Act 1 is tedious and a bit boring but it does ramp up from there, sadly by the time Act 1 was over I mostly was just burned out and needed to take a break from the game. Overall I'd give it a 7.5/10. I enjoyed Divinity 2 much better for gameplay reasons and the bit more serious tone.
every game is point and click You either point with your mouse or navigate via direction keys to "point" You click on either the mouse or certain keys for actions Every game in every platform is point and click how are you so fuckin stupid?
I agree. It's the most boring RPG I've ever tried to play. The plot is awful, the dialogue is cringy as hell, and the combat... good god the combat.. I'd rather watch paint dry. This coming from someone who has done multiple play throughs of BG1/BG2 and was looking forward to the game.
This is the first game I requested a refund for. So boring. And I have 100% every game I have ever played. Witcher 3, Cyberpunk, Dark Souls, Division 2 anything you can think of. But this.... Turn based really isn't my type, and fuck the reviewers saying that BG3 is good regardless. It isn't.
Have you tried Jingling Keys Simulator? That might be more your speed. Cheers
I bet if you put a clip of somebody playing subway surfers over the whole game he'd like it
Uh oh. Someone sounds butthurt because they are poking holes in your beloved game 😢
lol butthurt someone offended your game :( not everyone likes the woke trash you gobbled up like a particular barn yard animal that crows in the morning !
Why so butthurt? Everything in this video is on point. Game is overrated.
@@SolidPRAWN yeah.. It's on point if you have no idea what you've gotten yourself into and you just bought into the hype without thinking for yourself. If you like the genre, it's about as good as it's ever gotten, if not you'll probably still like it as long as you have some sort of critical thinking skills
I tried so hard because I really wanted to get immersed into this game… But I just couldn’t! I tried. Just not for me like you I was so bored.
bruh. i'm going though the SAME EXACT THING you are. I really want to like this game to but it's so damn convoluted and out of wack with difficulty. it doesn't scale combat nicely at all. it feels broken.
@@Mike-jv8bv BG3 is some of the easiest shit i've played recently, and that's coming from someone who wasn't into DND or anything of the sort before. Folks just don't take their time to read the tooltips and instead rush through the game, then wonder why it's so damn difficult lol.
@@RubenMakayathat’s a lie lol.I’ve played a lot of games and I found bg3 to be pretty hard as well as a beginner, I didn’t finish it bc I was getting frustrated and not having fun at All, the combat was so bad I was literally going into situations doing everything I could to avoid getting into a fight smh….let me get back to playing a real game now like Elden ring
@@tuenchie7541 some players deal over 100+ damage per turn and its hard for them. would be nice for once to owerpower your enemies in combat.
The game is brainless on the hardest setting. Some of you must be legitimately handicapped.
If your reaction to every "non-perfect" situation is to reload, you haven't understood the game at all. It is just great to see, how the story is evolving based on your "mistakes".
Playing a CRPG and beeing annoyed about too many spells and dialogues is like complaining about too much shooting in CoD.
He reload more in this video than my first 2 play throughs
> It is just great to see, how the story is evolving based on your "mistakes"
No, it isn't. Because forced combat is not "evolving".
@@urgian my guy, the goblin camp is 100% gonna notice when they are being attacked, being a stealth type build means you can surprise enemies alot more, not be an assassin
you act like save scumming hasnt been a thing for these types of games since their inception
By "mistakes" you mean being soft locked in a combat, LOL
Great, not just me then.
Nah I thought the same thing dude. I’m not into this style of game, but I’ve played Fire emblem games before that do this turn based tactical combat and I loved those games. This game though just didn’t click with me
That’s because you suck at the game and probably like cod or think dragon age origins has fun combat
Tried 10 times to play, always quit.
No
Just you and other idiots
I was beginning to think I was alone
This game upset me too, especially how you can't even be really neutral in this game. Also non-good choices just make you lose out on companions, xp and like half the content in the game which is incredibly disappointing. What I liked about Skyrim is that I can just do whatever I want, story or not, just walk around and roleplay without it affecting much of the game but in BG3 It's like nah sorry you cant be who you want to be buddy here's half your content cut from the game. I left ACT 2 and the narrator said "you are sad the curse has not been lifted" DUDE I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CURSE
Yea it's just super annoying game. I'm glad I found someone to relate to lmao. I am so annoyed i wasted my money on the hype partly but I love games like this. Just not this. Not this.
@ exactly bro. It’s funny, I actually really liked Divinty 2, but this game is weird af.
@@MsKaystra oh no, only not choices with actual consequences! rpgs should be more like skyrim, where you don't have to commit to anything and can become a master assasin, legendary thief and mage guild master while playing as a full plate armor warrior that can barely casts spells. Why make any meaningful decisions!
@@BrovarSpirytus Not choices where you can't even be neutral and if you try to be, the game just puts your characters morality into a "good" or "bad" box and if you're the bad box then you get half the content cut from the game! Wow! Brilliant game design
Throwing in my two cents here as I saw this type of player in my personal dnd games.
I appreciate your view and even agree with some frustrations raised in point one, regarding the game being slow.
Seeing the rest of the scenes with context provided by you I can probably say that this game is not up your alley and I wouldn't be surprised if further more issues would raise till you finish the game. Trying to make a distinction between the game not being for you and your criticism I have noticed a few faults that entirely confuse me.
It seems you're trying to play the game "as it's intended" by an arbitrary someone instead of playing it however you like.
The game clearly gives you plenty of "outs" and possibilities to refine any encounter & dialogue to whatever would be enjoyable for you. With Alfira you had loads of options to simply antagonize her, why would you continue the dialogue tree as if you want to help her? With Karlach, why not boot her from the party? With the party members trying to dump their life story on you, why not simply pick the option that tells them to shut up? You seem to consistently abide by this set of rules that you're clearly not enjoying and this set of rules has the prerequisite of you buying into the story which you already consider "cringe" and can't immerse yourself into.
And I get it, when your only options in dialogue is either to pretend you're best buds and "fuck you, die (Attack)" it isn't much of a choice at all, but I really think Baldur's Gate rewards antagonizing npcs just as much.
Thank you for your video, it's a refreshing perspective and I've enjoyed it
it seems like he and a lot of other people that complain about d&d games, are trying to play it like a jrpg. D&D rules are different from japanes rpg rules. And some people cant wrap their heads around it
You can say "this game just isn't for you" for literally ANY game... And hey technically your right, poorly designed awkward games definitely aren't for everyone lmao.
All those outs that you're referring to make the game feel like it lacks direction. I keep stumbling into quests that I never picked up and the Game acts as if I (my characters) should know about those things.. If I loot an item, if I speak to an npc, or if I enter the a location, the journal updates, and I'm suddenly in the middle of a quest that I never accepted! It feels directionless and convoluted..
I had the same problem with divinity original sin part 2, these are the only two games I've ever had this problem with. I play exclusively High fantasy D&D style games in the crpg genre,
I can't agree more with this review. I'm a hardcore BG1/BG2 veteran. I've beaten those games modded with the absolute max difficulty (sword coast strategems). Loved them to death because they were simple games to play in comparison, and, they played SMOOTH. Real time with pause meant you didn't need to slow the fight down, fixed perspective meant no screwing around with the camera. Less random crap all over the map (cups, dishes, etc.). Less bugs.
Overall, as a veteran BG fan, as much as I want to love this game (the characters, voice acting and story seem fantastic) I just can't get over the absolute jankiness that is the game itself. Very disappointed overall. I'm sure Larian makes the best turn based games, but the thing is, BG was never turn based. Bioware never made turn based games, cause they knew they only catered to extremely niche audiences.
Have you tried rogue trader by owlcat recently?
@@microwaveenthusiast7410Instead of that, Owlcat's Wrath of the Righteous. If you love epic CRPG's and original BG's, that is the game for you. Also, it has both real time with pause or turn based combat, both work and both can be toggled back and forth, any time you like.
Rogue Trader is still way too buggy and broken, it needs another year in the oven. They created their own system for that game, and it's quite a mess.
@@noway8662 i’m currently having a blast playing Wrath of the Righteous. That turn based-realtime switchable combat system is peak crpg.
@@noway8662is worth playing? Just finished pillars of eternity and was an amazing game, Trying baldurs gate 3 right now
Also, Baldur's Gate 3 looks awful. Almost everything is dull gray, green or brown. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (particularly the enhanced editions) is the opposite. Everything is bursting with color.
I don't understand any of your points. It's a CRPG based on DND and it does that really well. You don't want to choose your spells? Brother what.
And as a D&D game, it sucks ass. I still play Neverwinter Nights. lvl 40 max and lvl 60 modded servers. BG3, max lvl 12 ?!?! Then PRC mod with 40+ base classes and almost 100 prestige classes. No room for creativity whatsoever, so everyone will end up making the same builds. 20+ year gap and every D&D game since, has been giving less and less freedom, to the point we are at now, which is just insulting. I've owned BG3 since release and played 0.0 hours. BG3 is playing at the kiddies table. Not interested!
@@waynestapleton1205 it's 5e game? Level 40 or 60 don't exist in the system. And beyond level 12 spells become too hard to code in for a game with so much action and consequence narratively. I don't think the game is for you, nor do I think 5e is. But it's not about it being a bad dnd game, it's just that you clearly don't like 5e. Which is fine. But you're expecting things not even remotely considered when someone is wanting a dnd 5e game. Lots of other picks. Go choose them.
Lot's of others to pick from ? I just said it's been going downhill for 20+ years. I've tried and reviewed or refunded where I can on every D&D style released since and it's always out right crap, or first hour or 2 are fine and then it falls apart to the point of being crap. It's never bugs that cause me to leave, it's always the game play itself and/or character progression, or lack thereof.
@@jakehelder3254 the details you guys always go to the game is just so detailed. I drift in forza and manny other car games I’m in wheel and pedal and stick shifter. it took me almost a year to learn how to do this that half a year Of reviewing clips learning angles understanding pedal discipline. Learning how to mod a car the was I want it a lot of small detail that go into the big action. And I would rather do all of that again then play this shit. This game isn’t about details it’s just tedious and even when you line everything up perfectly it still fucks up.
@@kazum1809 I get ur point but I'm not sure you get mine. Dungeons and dragons is a game of dice rolls where no skill or build can guarantee success in anything. It is random. It is fun because of this. If this is not fun for you because you need to perfect a skill, or spend time learning the intricacies of a pedal, to have fun, then dungeons and dragons and therefore baldurs gate 3, are not for you. It is very simple. Baldurs gate 3 is an adaptation of a table top game to a video game. I am not saying it's perfect, but it's trying to be something neither this video, nor the other replies seem to understand. They want it to be a different thing than it is. They are asking for a completely different game, based on a completely different tabletop game.
You're not in the minority. It's the first major RPG game I've been this bored in and it's by far the worst gameplay mechanics. It's almost like adapting a system that was meant to be played in a social setting with a human dungeon master that can react to your rolls and adapt the story to a PC system where you play completely alone is a horrible idea.
The only good elements of this game are all Divinity OS remnants, and they had to GUT the systems of that game to make it work with D&D5e. This is THE most overhyped game in a long time. I played the early access and the release 35 hours and I could not care less about the story, the NPCs and my companions are 90% annoying and the only one I like I already know what happens to and I don't enjoy that either, so pointless. Not to mention the game railroads you into a certain decision making path at the end.
But the worst thing are all the butthurt fanboys, who couldn't be more toxic because someone dared to criticize their little game. I'm sick and tired of these immature dickheads like the Star Citizen Crowd who defend a game by throwing insults at everybody daring not to like it.
This game and its community are the prime example of everything wrong with gaming and gamers these days. yuck
Look on literally any fan rating score on the internet. You both are clearly and undoubtedly are in the minority
You can't go against the wok mob, how dare you? xD
Right?! This is what I wanted to say. In D&D you roll with the punches and the DM will make things work out. In this game, the amount of rng is so nauseating that it feels more like playing the lottery than a game. I've had to save/reload more times in this game (playing partially) than the last 10 or so videogames I've played fully. I've gotten the hang of the combat system and how to deal with random traps throughout the world. But you just can't beat stupid rng, especially when it has lasting consequences. And don't get me started on dialogue choices that sound WAY different than what they actually do. Viva la Dirt League did a video on that, and I'm pretty sure this game was the main inspiration for it. 4/10
@@resident1123 And then? To be in the minority means to be wrong? How old are you? If you study some history you may actually find out that most of the times is the majority to be wrong, or maybe study some statistics (look into the Pareto principle for example).
Gate keeping dnd5e so hard is very cringe. This the best game ive ever played and im not even into rpgs
This review sounds like you actually haven't played a real RPG before and this was your first. Welcome to a real game that doesn't hold your hand.
Honestly feels like a bad attempt at rage bait tbh.
Lol this game isn't difficult, it's all RNG dice rolls
@@cartoonvideos5 There is a difference between 'reload spam' and actually knowing how to play. Most who find it easy either really know what they're doing or just reload spam for the best outcome in their favor. Newish folks who play D&D type games certainly won't find it easy unless they abuse 'reload spam'.
@@cartoonvideos5 Furthermore .... and not to mention honor mode that was just released TODAY.
And how many rpgs you played to call this a good rpg? This game is boring af
Just closed it today in 170 hrs and not opening again, 10 years of patching won't fix an uninteresting story with 0 variety and gameplay that is just as interesting as watching grass grow
not to mention lazy written characters
the game is a cheap copy of old bioware games story wise, it even tries to copy characters from me/dao but does it pathetically bad
I love this game, and I can acknowledge there are some flaws because no game is perfect, Larian does a great job on keeping up with fixes. It's inevitable with a game of this size and with all these options. That being said, maybe you just don't like RPGs? The point of this game is that it is meant to run like DnD but in video game medium. So the dice rolls, managing stats, being strategic with turn based combat, exploring and using stats to get different outcomes etc is all intentional.
The part about the chest being trapped and blowing you up... your characters told you it was trapped and the chest glowed orange. That's your sign to disarm it.
This is a story based game, so it makes no sense to skip the dialogue. Also, if you're not playing for the story I don't understand why you reload when a fight is initiated.
Remember this game is meant to run like a DnD campaign, so story and characters is important. Also it's set in a universe that is already established in DnD lore. It would be very unfaithful to have companions that you never learn about, or you had this huge quest to embark on but never got to see it play it properly. The marketing for this game was very honest. It was available in early access years ago and everything they promised has been shown.
Personally, I just think you don't like immersive RPGs. Which is totally fine, not everyone is going to like the same sorts of games.
A fair comment but there are quite a few assumptions here. Single-Player RPG is my largest collection of games and what I’ve spent a great deal of time playing. Baldur’s Gate 3 is not my first RPG and I think the idea that it is, helps people rationalise my opinion of it. I’ve played and enjoyed many other RPGs. I just don’t think this is a good one.
Again, I’ll re-address this point, I didn’t skip through dialogue. I show a clip of me skipping through previously read dialogue, to show how much text there is to read. If I said in my video, “there’s a lot of text”, but only provided 1 or 2 sentences in the edit, the point would fall flat really. I say in the video that I have 4 hours of dialogue so, it wouldn’t have been that much if I skipped through it all like people keep on saying.
Regardless thank you for your comment and for conducting yourself kindly :D
@@CGJournalist What you forget is, that BG3 is not just a RPG, it is a cRPG. Either classic or computer role play game with quite some differences to just as RPG titled games. If you just go by RPG, you would also throw Fallout in the same pot as Dark Souls.
@@CGJournalist This game is a very specific type of RPG though. A CRPG based on the D&D 5e ruleset. Most of the things you dislike stem from this game being D&D5e, you might like single player RPG's but not like this specific type. All rpg's of this genre play in the pretty much exact same way, dice roll's, stats, stat checks, turn based, managing your party etc. and almost all of them have a massive amount of dialogue. Maybe this sorta RPG just isn't for you.
no
@@CGJournalistI can respect your opinion I don't like first person shooters Unless it's like destiny or other games like it
Oh no, not the people complaining that there is story and lots of dialogue in a RPG game.
If you want that crap, then go watch a movie.
@@kenseryew My dude, what kinda take do you think that is? That's like me complaining about the game design and stupid dialogue in a Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Masters game when in reality I just have no idea why I'm playing a fucking virtual card game.
The game was marketed ad nauseam as being infinitely replayable, with your first playthough taking over 100 hours. Did you honestly fucking think a BALDURS GATE GAME was going to be a first-person extract shooter?
@@kenseryewdumb take
BRO - imagine outting yourself as under 90 IQ like this@@kenseryew
@@Gwilherm yours is great LOL
When you said "I do not give a **** about how these fictional characters feel, or what they're going through that should not be the focus of your game." that is the whole point of D&D by the way. The characters and the role you like to play make up the tale. If you do not care about them then the game is not for you!
My position is that, you never go into a game already caring about the characters, unless they're from something else. Well-written characters make you care over time. Either a game will do this well or it will flop. With the current social agenda, I'm a very hard sell so, anything that's even remotely associated with being "woke" completely turns me away. I've seen a lot of people tell me that "RPGs" aren't for me but, the problem I have isn't with the genre. I don't like the appeal that this game has towards the current mainstream.
I believe a lot of people are made uncomfortable by it but remain silent because, a disliking towards some of the ideas in this game speaks to a broader community of extremely opinionated humanitarian activists, that will respond to, even slight negativity, with complete outrage. From my prospective the herd mentality surrounding this game was always obvious and the feedback from this video is unsurprising. I don't mean to suggest that you "yellmo2646" are a part of that herd, I'm just trying to explain where my disliking comes from and hopefully after putting it like this, you won't agree with me, but at least understand why someone my have an opinion like this.
I care more about the gameplay than the sexual reproduction organ between these fictional character's legs and I'm completely unmoved by their emotional outbursts. While simply giving an honest opinion and expressing how I feel about Baldur's Gate 3, I've been accused of rage baiting and insulted. It seems the woke community is only accepting of all ideas and opinions... that are their own.
Oh no, you are one of those people that think BG3 isn't immersive enough because it's "woke", aren't you? I hate to break it to you, but the world this game is set in has always been like that, people in this setting pretty much don't care about the sexuality of others because they are used to crazier stuff to go down, it's part of the lore and in my opinion it makes it more immersive.
Also, i bet you have never played D&D before, most if not all of the tables i have played with have a few LGBT people in them. This game was made for us D&D fans, so it's safe to say they made this for their target demographic, not everything is a conspiracy.
Nah he's totally right. I felt the exact same way. Granted, every time I tried to play I would start to nod off so I only made it to the druid's grove before I uninstalled. 6 hours of play time, restarted once hoping it'd grab me. I didn't care about any of them at all, no one I talked to made me say "I want to know more about x". I just didn't care at all, probably because I was already bored when I met them. I was bored about 10 minutes after the opening cinematic. Overhyped garbage.
I appreciate that the developers aren't scummy like most are today, I absolutely love turn based games, and I love D&D. If I were in the market for a choose your own adventure audiobook I'd consider attempting to play this again. Even then though probably not. It's so fucking boring. I love cRPGs as well...I don't know what it is because I loved Pillars of Eternity. Larian games make me sleep. I know I played Divinity OS1 but I don't remember anything about it. I tried to play DOS2 and never made it off of the island in the start for the same reasons, so mind numbingly bored I kept falling asleep within 45 minutes of booting it up. BG3 same thing. The entire time I was playing both DOS 2 and BG3 I was just thinking about what game I should be playing instead, and end up starting my 50th darkest dungeon campaign.
@ZenMaster2026 No, they are. Like I said I've played Pillars of Eternity, Dragon Age, all of em. It's just Larian games are sooo boring. I hated Elden Ring also.
@@nickr0425 bro what, you played Pillars of Eternity and you call BG3 boring? PoE is a fricking snoozefest in comparison, the story is so convoluted and you care so much less about the story in the end. Also the way you're describing that you only made it the grove and complain that the characters didn't grab your attention. Nothing happened yet in the story at that point, it's like 0,5% of the game. You didn't even try the game, or you're just hating for no reason or out of spite, or you're trolling. In no way did you gave it a real shot.
Purchased it because of the gaming community rants and raves how fantastic this game is! I want to support the gamers. For me $50 down the drain.
Didn't you check any videos of gameplay at all before buying? I would never buy a game just based on comments. It wasn't possible 25years ago but nowadays we're just drowning in videos of all kinds, it's easier to make the right choice before spending your money on a game
@@raphaelbovey2513no most sheep just buy and form options later. Dude probably thought he was getting Skyrim 2.0 but got a turn based dnd rpg. Most of these people don’t read that’s also why they hate this game
It’s crazy that gaming has become so bad that people gaslight themselves into believing this game is amazing when it’s simply good at best. Average characters and average dialogue. Not to mention the horrible rng combat is just out right immersion breaking. Mediocre game.
I've forced myself to play during the alpha for many hours, but I couldn't, and tried again when the game was released and I've stopped again. This game is just boring and too cliché with an awful gameplay.
i don't like the game at first, never play dnd before. But this game is growing on me and i actually finish my first run and on my second run now. I even start playing the actrual dnd with my friends. One of the things that i like most is that ur action in the game actually have consequences, it just make things so interesting
It doesn’t though … like an any meaningful way you still end up in the same place with one of two outcomes you save the world or your or you die and you save the world. Nothing really changes…..
@@clifflittle460 I meant there are so many endings for the npcs, not just the companions, yes there are only a few ending for the game, but It's more like it has so many ways to get to the Ending and it's has a lot of meaningful side Quest, not just asking u to delivery an item from 1 place to another.
2nd run?? how much time do you have. I plan to finish it sometime this year or the next
@@clifflittle460 You're like 1% right. There is an overarching story and the final moments are usually similar through most playthroughs just because you obviously have to overcome (or join) the looming threat that guides the urgency of the whole game, but apart from that, there is just about no limit to the differences in story or places and characters you may or may not meet and then how those characters may or may not develop all based on your actions. Let alone how that all plays into what you experience, see, do, and the story beats that follow throughout your journey. On my fourth run now in Honour mode and I still have barely touched all that this game has to offer.
@@Zen-ku4yp no he’s right. There is no overarching charge like non I mean you can do the side quests and change small things but most if not all the side quests are mind numbingly boring so why would you. You also don’t get anything good from them so why would you.
I am an older player who completed games such as Ultima Underworld I & II, Might & Magic, etc. i bought BG 3 because of it’s reviews. I agree with every point in the video 🤷♂️. I am not happy though, I wanted to love this game.
this for me 100% except I pre-ordered it as soon as it was available. One of my biggest gamer regrets. I wanted to love it too, and I can sort of like certain parts of it, like the combat encounter variety and I can see the overall quality in most regards, solidifying it as a true AAA rpg game. HOWEVER, the writing is bad. I have friends who are of the opinion that this is the greatest game ever though (who never played anything RPG before the witcher 3).
Lets also not forget the regrettable character assassination of Viconia and Saverok (more of a WotC problem than Larian, but still they could have just not included these characters).
The writing is the biggest turn off, the inconsistent tone of comical with serious. Previous Larian games had this same problem and I hoped and prayed, in vain, that BG3 wouldn't have this issue. It not just did, it was worse. The rest of the game is 9 or 8/10
Of course it's boring if you're not into these kinds of games, it's gotten such positive reviews because its a great game in its specific genre. Good games don't have to be good for every gamer what?
And it has the amount of good reviews because it made some things so damn good people unfamiliar with that genre could ignore their initial flaws with the game.
Sometimes that’s the case. Ironically, Diablo 4 is great for a wide variety of gamers with different tastes. It’s the ARPG No life’s who hate it. They prefer Path of Exile, Last Epoch, Grim Dawn…etc. Call of Duty and Madden gamers like the new Diablo.
Good games are good for mostly everyone
I am into this kind of games and it's still boring for me.
Thats not a excuse,i am into these type of games but this game was simply just not it and the dialogue is godawful and long that u are most likely to skip
Hear Hear! I spent 8 hours playing the game, no bugs, everything is fine on the technical side. But what takes me out of the game again and again is the endless romance parts. You can't throw a stone without some party member getting romanced. That is the game breaker for me. I want to play D&D, not having a romantic fling with my PC. Haven't touched the game since.
Porblem with BG3 is that the story is boring and companions are cringe af. Writing is just meh in this game.
Im with you
Nah
@@zookaton2940Yup
Blud only played act 3
the good voice acting tricked people into thinking the writing is just so amazing huh? It's really not.
Actually loved Divinity Original Sin 2, did multiple runs on it, group or lone wolf, highest difficulty and multiple classes played, aswell as some mods to spice things up after first vanilla run was done. After that, I tried Bg3 thrice, and everytime I came back to it, I couldn't keep myself focused on the game after like 30 / 40 hours.. last run I just went alt+f4 after 5 / 6 hours, just because I missed Divinity OS2 so much and the game's mechanic itself felt better than BG3. I can't say I fully agree with your opinions on this vid, but I agree on the fact that I got way to hyped by friends and people overall on the web, and I regret it.
i felt exactly same
I koved DOS1, but did not enjoy DOS2.. I noticing alot of the problems I had with DOS2, in BG3..
a much needed critique
game is toxic positivity bubble but its very flawed and honestly dialogue being weak is a giant flaw
it is "modern' in all the wrong ways, doesn't feel much like a true sequel which is damning
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you get better soon.
I hope you do as well.. especialy after act3 clusterfuck
A D&D player, video maker, and a Bauldur’s gate lover here.
Solid video essay and appreciate the work you put into it, but this game clearly isn’t marketed toward you. Many of the things that are your main critiques I would say are what many players look forward to in this game. I appreciate it because it’s so different than 90% of games out there and to play devils advocate here, if you’ve never played a table top game and are expecting a typical video game experience you will be disappointed and you should know what you’re buying. Good of you to turn certain people away from playing with your review because it could save people money. BUT your critiques fall on deaf ears for the majority of the world it seems.
A fair comment. I appreciate your conduct.
“Majority of the world” apparently is Reddit, metacritic and the woke GOTY ceremony. In reality The majority of gamers will never play this boring trash. Get out of your tiny internet bubble. Baldurs Gate, Elden Ring, It takes two, Last of Us 2 are Not good games. And are not what blue collar people play. Which is the Silent Majority.
@@kevinfinnerty8414 That guy appreciates the criticisms I made and was just saying that most people wouldn't agree. Which is further substantiated and verified by the other comments, dislikes and awards it has won. It's rare that someone will disagree with you and yet, still try find value in what you're saying. I don't think this person is in a bubble at all. Their comment was very fair.
@@kevinfinnerty8414 Every game you listed is good except for Elden Ring. I'm a blue collar gamer, and I want to relax after work. Why would I ever play a game that's really hard?
@@kevinfinnerty8414 Just out of curiosity, what do you consider good games
Here we see a victim of modern gaming... Who cant lean back and enjoy a RPG, a game with Story, a game with development
It's a shit story man, he was on point about characters being poorly written and cringe af.
I played several crpgs and enjoyed them including the first two baldur’s gate games and didn’t enjoy this one? Also, How exactly is he a victim? He is just voicing his opinion on a game that goes against the popular narrative. That’s it.
Just accept that its not for everyone my guy. Personally I think the combat is just ass.
Mate I've just bought it, some people got too much free time on their hands, it's too complicated, combat turn based is archaic and just plain boring... The graphics are good but the characters are ugly and the companions I really couldn't care about, how it beat Tears of the kingdom is beyond me
Here we see a wok casual gamer that enjoys a game just to be part of the "tribe", and comments bs just to be part of the "tribe". Are you still playing the game btw? I doubt, and if so, maybe you deserve it.
You are 100% right how in the world did this get GAME of the year. Turn based combat is the worst. Spending all that time creating a character you can barely see fight sucks. The camera angles are horrible.
Bro this game is so ass
You realize the og rpg’s of the 80’ and 90’s were turn based? What do you prefer? Skyrim?
@@jordanwilson4182 pokemon is the only good turn based
Thanks for helping me make my mind up with this game. In a single player game I don’t want to have to micromanage 3 other characters as well especially as I’m new to D&D.
No worries, I'm glad to have had that kind of influence. I personally really enjoyed the Witcher game series but for the most part, the fantasy genre is often more of a cash grab.
Lmao a cash grab? What constitutes a cash grab in your eyes?
@@jordanwilson4182 Obtaining a dead IP at a low cost and then turning it into a sex fantasy game for hormonal adolescents.
@@CGJournalistthere's no obligation to romance or have sex with anybody if you don't want to. Game leaves a lot of room for how you want to play it.
@@deceiver444 That's a cope. Game constantly irritates you with party characters dropping their issues and wanting to romance. Just after the hag fight, the green lady interrupted me to say "I want to taste you" (Shown in the video). And there's a lot less freedom than people claim. Your choices tunnel you in to one method of play and at times, if it doesn't go in your favour, there are spikes in difficulty as a result. For example, the whole early game, I was creeping around, stealth killing my foes. Until the goblin village, where the game prevented me from playing this way (Also shown in the video).
Much more freedom in games like Skyrim and Elden Ring.
I love people who claim a game is boring while skipping all dialogs
I do that lol
The game is amazing - however If a game doesn't have captivating combat atleast or the conversations take too long I can see why someone would be bored.
That is not the case here tho this games dialogue keeps everyone amused and entertained.
@@TeaTimeTable the game is shit I miss when it's 70 percent hit Chance
@@frozenllama23 When I first played I thought that too until I learned "Cleric" exists and the spell "Bless" makes this happen not as often
@@TeaTimeTable well I change my class to palentin so I can heal my self
I was ghosted by old friend because I said more less what you said in this video. I don't like the game, because instead of playing a game, I need to study stuff, load game and talk to all NPCs all the time. And the worst is that I can use spells only sometimes, which forces me to constantly camp, where I need to talk to everybody. Game isn't that bad, but I don't like to play it. Divinity Original Sin was better, it contained less of that stupid sheet
If a "friend" ghosted you because you had an opinion on a fcking game that's cringe af, I wouldn't even call that an old friend.
@@Junksho1 Agree-why the fuck would a friend give a shit about a game?
Chose your friends better and don't play turn based DnD rpgs. Problems solved.
Well, you are right, all of you. I don't talk with the guy. I don't even play games anymore, have other things on my head. He's a big fan of BG, so probably felt personally offended. Doesn't matter anymore
As a new player to this kind of games its impossible without hours of watching guides on youtube
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That's the weird thing with BG3. Despite being quite niche and nerd oriented in its complexity and mechanics, it almost immediately appealed to a very wide audience of gamers. Larian's CEO was the first one surprised at the game's mainstream success. He was confident the game would do ok but never imagined it would sell that much.
I've watched enough and it's still rough to play. The end
I agree. 50+ hours and ... I'm not enjoying it. It's just dull
Any time I can see that a character can level up..., my heart sinks
Time to try something different, i think.
Shame it cost me fifty quid
From your complaint it seems that "strategy" and "purer" RPG games are really not your cup of coffee. Hey everyone has a preference. But what you listed are a "you" problems and not objective faults of the game.
Thank you for synthesizing what I couldn't put into words myself. Never felt like I was ever having fun during my 20 hours. Felt super confused with having to manage every classes spells. Combat always made me feel like should be doing something more creative, but when I tried to put something more creative to action it wouldn't work, or would cause some worse unforeseen side effect. And yeah everyone is cringe
You are cringe my friend
As someone who loves RPG's and fantasy stories with in depth characterization, freedom and beautiful graphics, I almost bought this game. The hype surrounding it was deafening. There were literally no negative reviews. Until this video. Thank you, I think I will put off buying it because although I love story driven, choose your own adventure RPG's, I hate hate hate turn based combat. I prefer games with battles in real time. Turn based games break immersion for me. Too bad, because it seems like the story may be amazing, but I buy game to play them, not study them.
I honestly thought the exact same before I bought Baldurs gate thinking the turn based will be a drag as I HATE turn based however it doesn’t break the immersion at all, if anything it sinks you into it
Elden ring
Play elden ring bro
You should 100% try BG3. The combat is great and even if you don’t like it the combat is only a small part of the game.
@@LerppunenI absolutely love the combats in BG3 and I'm glad that, contrary to what you stated, they're not just a "small part".
Sure there's lots of other things to do in this game than slaughtering whoever you want to beef with, and there's even many different ways you can avoid combat on some occasions, but fighting remains an important part of bg3 and a key component of its appeal, surprisingly even towards a fair portion of people usually not too fans of turn based mechanics
I was expecting you to just nitpick things, but you surprised me. You actually had good points. How dare you go against the hive-mind which is BG's fan base?
Thank you for a great video mate.
I greatly appreciate your words.
I agree with you 100%.
I asked for a refund 2.7 hours in so I can't talk about much but I have to say :
- the movement in this game is absolutly atrocious, clunky and unresponsive.
- camera is awful and doesn't position itself, Feels like playing N64 or Playstation when we had to move the camera ourselves.
- too many spells and skills to begin with , they should come as the game goes on.
- jumping and other movment abilities can't be used outside of the menu.
- too many corpses and boxs to loot, waste of time.
- combat has too much rng
On the positive side :
- Dialogues and characters are well made
I feel like BG3 is more a roleplay simulator than an actual game.
That being said I'm really happy so many ppl are enjoying it , it's just not a game for me.
BG3 is absolutely a role play simulator. One of the best you can find in video game form so far. And surprisingly it even managed to appeal to a mainstream audience, which I find all the more crazy since it's defo not targeted at RPG noobs in the first place.
After 30+ hours I gave up, near the end of only act 1. It felt painful to push on. Just realised that this wasn’t my type of game. Never did enjoy the dnd format tbh.
I love D&D games, and crpg are exactly what I love to play. But this game is so slow and boring
Hilarious how people will want to crucify you over an opinion. State of the world, I guess. Spot on, though. Turn based games are time consuming and I personally don't have a problem with them, BUT when the dialog drags on for no reason, that doesn't make it better. The dialog is also not very well written, some of the voice actors help, but in general it's a mess. But anyway, back to the turn-based combat, it can be very finicky in this game when trying to select a target sometimes. Overall, the game is overrated. It's just a complete game at release and that's the standard we're at now. Just be complete and they'll sing your praises.
Bad written?
sure
Cope
My huge issue is arbitrary rules that any semi-reasonable DM would be lax on, but the game can’t because it’s a game.
I’m trying to shoot an enemy that I have line of sight on, but the game says no, I’m 1 meter off from where I need to be. Very annoying.
I want to talk to someone I’m fighting to stop fighting them. Nope.
Walked 1 meter further than I meant to? RIP, everyone is dead.
Exactly! For example, Sacred Flame in 5e is unique for not requiring line of site. It's a mediocre cantrip, but it's nice that it has that little ability to give it a niche. BG3 requires line of site. Why? Why would they just remove the spell's niche? Did they literally get the rules of the game wrong? Early D&D literally had a whole mechanic where you could drop treasure or food to be given a % change to pacify an enemy and end combat. Why wouldn't BG3 have something like that? I hate the game because it's a poor adaptation of D&D, it's a poor successor to Divinity: Original Sin 2, and it's an even poorer successor to Baldur's Gate 2.
@@youcantbeatk7006 Sacred flame in 5e reads: "Flame-like radiance descends on a creature that you can SEE within range.'' Its niche is that it ignores cover.
Severely overrated. Review bombing on Steam fucked me once again
Get a refund?
I played for 4 hours, decided it was shit, and then got a refund.
Did you ever try right clicking on a trap or trapped chest and then pressing disarm? also if you think the dialogue is shit / theres too much of it, just skip it by pressing space.
Finding traps has a very small radius. In most cases, the character is notified of a trap half a step away from it, but does not stop moving. For a game that spent a few years in early access and a few months after release, this is very crooked.
That's what I did for most of the dialogue. But I'm just very baffled, because I don't remember the dialogue in BG2 being nearly as bad. My memory is a bit rusty but I thought BG2 actually had quite solid dialogue. I'm not sure why the devs decided they needed to make everything either about social commentary or lets smash. And the way the game railroaded you into certain decisions/paths regardless of what you did in Act 3 felt very jarring. In Act 2 it didn't feel like that was the case at all. To some extent this has always been an issue with Larian games and maybe even the genre as a whole, but it felt very egregious in this case. I think BG3 is a good game, maybe even a great one, but I find the near universal praise quite strange. I don't think it's quite on par with BG2 and I doubt it will be looked at as favorably in the future.
@@urgian how is it crooked if it forces you to be careful and pay attention when you know there are traps ahead, it's part of the immersion. Never had any issue with it. As a typical tactic I use my highest perception char to walk in front by himself and scout all the traps, maybe disarm ones that could not be avoided and then the rest of the group generally avoids all of the traps automatically except for some very rare occasions when there's very little space.
@@dirzz I explain how throughout the comment up to the word "crooked".
@@urgian and I explained why it is not. With a proper character build you'll see them from afar and never set them off unintentionally.
It's so boring, I played it till the grimforge golem (first try) in Act1 or 2, played good games like Robocop and deleted it entirely after it lay around for a year or so. Graphics good, music + voices good, but shitty written characters and stupid story + actions. Like who in the right mind would befriend a parasite inside a parasite (Astarion) and other narcissistic assholes like Lae'zel... The whole story plots don't make any logical sense... The combat system is so shitty, even with disabling the "balanced rolls" you get up to 7 misses in a row, while every single enemy makes 10-20 dmg in a single turn - crippling unbalanced gameplay. Then there are fights with up to 20 enemies, where you feel like your hair grows a few centimeters after you've done all the repeating and boring same skills over and over again, you just feel robbed of lifetime after 10-30 minutes of fight against a bunch of low-level minions - just give it an auto-fight option with priority list like the better D&D games (for example Pathfinder: WotR). It's the _worst_ D&D game I've ever played in 38 years.
You've said it all, story-wise we (as the player) are just the psychiatrist/nurse of crazy people (with attention-seeking behavior) who would die without us.
The dialogues feel really weird when our character is talking to someone (dialogues between other characters are okay-ish)
Gameplay-wise the game really punishes you for trying new things if you are not an absolute nerd about every math of the game.
The dice system looks cool on paper, but in practice it just slow down the entire experience.
Even the design and how the game works is painfull to learn and to use (even when i mastered it).
Did you say auto fights... Yeah just stay away, talk about brain dead
The problem is that Larian is possibly one of the most overrated studios in the industry. In BG 3 the Act 1 might be good, but even now in November 2024 the Act 3 is still an experience breaking buggy mess. Excellent! But they still have managed to sell the first Act very well with a lot of hype from media. Looks like Bg 3 will forever remain a promising build unless of course BG 3 Definitive Edition (at last!) will announced as currently the game in overall is not in any definitive condition. And this is typical for Larian - to sell builds, not games.
They hated him because he spoke the truth. All his points in this video are completely valid.
Got NEWS for you, its OVERWHELINMGLY positive reviews on steam ... No one agrees with you, no truth.
It is valid because you agree with said points?
What crpg doesn’t have slow pacing? It comes with the genre. Just because you can’t properly click the right things on the screen or are too lazy/stupid/ uninterested to read does equate to valid criticism l. It just means you don’t like it, you not liking something dosent mean it’s overrated
Sure
That’s why it sold millions copies and won hundreds of prizes 😅
No 😂😂😂y’all sound like simpletons that never played anything besides Skyrim. This isn’t a jrpg this isn’t Diablo it’s an actual turn based rpg. Only played this game for 2 months so far and y’all must need your hand held for everything.
Spending too much time managing my inventory is my big complaint. Why do I have to individually move each piece of food to my camp in order to reduce my weight limit?
select top item and then select botom item while holding shift to pick all items in those rows and you can move all of them at once *there should've been help list somewhere in a corner of inventory with all the key combinations for easier workaround
@@ervinaspetrauskas1716 Thanks!
"The game asks me to switch my playstyle halfway through"
"I have to learn how to play 4 different characters"
Waiting for bro to figure it out haha
This game is way too boring my goodness. Overrated for sure.
I love Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 (probably more than 1000hours, multiple playthroughs over the years), but my time of playing Baldur's Divinity 3 is 20 min at most and I have no desire to install that garbage ever again. The best thing I can say about BGDivinity 3 is intro cinematics are very good and that's all.
Sure
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Hey, late to the vid. I just wnat to say as someone who really likes this game that i agree with a lot of what you say. The load times are annoying as hell. The characters are basic. Movement is slow and a pain in the ass. The amount of systems and spells you have to manage while first learning the game are not explained well and are ridiculous. Having to disarm a fucking million traps really feels boring. The first time round i played this game i was so frustrated with how many times this game would put you in a room with 20 dudes you know you're gonna beat but have to spend 18 minutes fighting them and the camera is a dickhead. But after biting down on the parts i didnt like i found a lot i really did like. Just the amount of unique situations, options, and impact you have in this game compared to something like mass effect 2 where the game pretends to be a roleplaying game but instead you are forced into a lot of non negotiable shit like not being able to tell anybody no or make any real impacts on the narative/plot. Or a game like fallout 4 where the game just bends to your will and refuses to have consequences for anything ever. Baldurs gate really felt like what you chose to do actually had a real narative impact and the game let you do basically anything and would acomade for that with the world and characters in it reacting to your decision like how people would instead of video game characters who are designed to never go against what the player would want. That alone was enough for me to stick around and then i learned the combat systems, and cool out of the box solutions for problems inside and outside of combat and i had a lot of fun with this game. This game does a lot of shit weirdly and annoyingly but in the face of what it does well, i couldn't say my experience wasnt dope 😎. Nice editing by the way dude good video 👍
Yeh i dont understand why this game is liked so much. Im 50 hrs in and yeh. I like it less each time i play.
A lot of times the concersations dont make sense either. "hey man i like your shoes" "those are fighting words here" enter into battle against 7 guys. Barely kill 6 and then 9 more walk up out of nowhere.
Thats just one thing about the game that sucks. I hate having to reload repeatedly because of crap design. If i die in bloodborne its because i didnt have the skill to win that battle. In this game it can happen because of unlogical dialog choices, bad rolls of the dice, or because of terrible battle design that causes you to lose because of glitches.
I just dont see how this game got the hype it got and why so many people love it. I love a good crpg man but this crap is.....well crap.
Because they make bots hype it up.
Lmfao you really think you dying is bg3 is not because of a skill issue? This game isn’t that hard and I play on honor mode rules with all spell casters and no tanks and rarely even have to reload a save.
This most overhyped game i ever seen in my life. I played all major crpg games in past 25 years and this is acually one of the worst of them.
I agree with you. I love the story and even sometimes the combat. But it can get super frustrating and the lack of auto saves. I have had to repeat hours of gameplay because I get ambushed and I get completely destroyed at the easiest difficulty.
Then load back 2 hours of gameplay which makes it so hard to continue.
People can say “Get better bro” perhaps I should, but that’s also not a fair counter point too
Aw man, you hate to see it. One of the first things I found was the quicksave keybind xD. I've lost loads of progress on games in the past so I know what that feels like. Hope you're all caught up properly.
Slowly I hate the game with a passion, not gonna lie. I think it's the most overrated game of this century.. give it that award instead
100% I wouldn't put this game in my top 500 I don't see why so many people think it's the best game of all time. And it's not like I haven't enjoyed turn based games before.
ive never agreed more with someone ever great review !
lol the game is boring AF ! , DOS 2 is so much better
I played this game for 45 hours. Tried my best to like it: read the dialogues, so I am able to follow the story, advanced slowly exploring everything... and man, for me is very obvious that this game was designed by someone who has not played a lot of games in their lives, besides some stuff like FIFA or golf simulators. UI is awful, camera is bad, very bad. Game's performance is extremally bad. Is top down view (almost), so render distance don't need to be high and there are no need for many calculations on every frame, as the most complex part: the battles, are turn based. And still, games run like shit on a very decent PC. The game has an alarming amount of glitches and bugs, that should only be seen in beta games. And some of them game breaking.
Then the story, well I leave it for personal tastes. But for my own, story is lame. I have seen side quests in other games with better stories than the main story in BG3. Also, game is very slow, but not for dialogues, which you could skip, but for those animations, like when a npc is searching for a character that became invisible: 10 second looking around. WTF.
I loved it when it first came out and I finished it without save scumming at all. But when I went to replay, I wanted to do things differently and I couldn't figure out which class to choose. So I would get 1/2 way through Act 1 and then restart because I didn't like that class. So I was playing Act 1 over and over again and now I'm sick of Act 1. I wanted to find everything on my 2nd playthrough and the furthest I got was with a Dark Urge character. Added more story. But I just can't do it anymore. I've taken breaks, played other games and I want to go back to it but the thought of going through Act 1 again fills me with dread. It's just like the opening sequence in Skyrim. Why do I have to start by riding so long in a cart on my way to my own beheading???
I'd say it all comes down to false depth. At least with older games you aren't bombarded with walls of texts and cutscenes. They get tiring and the massive size of the worlds does not make it more fun, just tedious after you've been through it once.
fully agree this game overrated
Throughout this review, all I really heard was "I don't like role-playing games". There are plenty of games where all you do is run around and whack stuff. This game isn't one of those. Personally, I find running around and whacking things incredibly monotonous. (Also, the reloading thing is your personal choice - you're *supposed* to just run with whatever the dice hand you, in an "oh well, that's life" manner - that's how D&D works)
Some people have patience for rpgs and some people don’t
Well said.
Not patient but interest. Some people skip cutscenes and love challenging gameplay. While some just want cutscenes with less gameplay like an interactive movie. I really hope witcher 3 use D&D gameplay because hack & slash is not for me.
theres a word for that its called: jobless. RPGs do not respect your time so ofc they cater to the unemployed and pathetic people. If you are over the age of 18 and playing over 30 hours of videogames a week, there's a 99.9% chance you are a BUM. the 0.01% is for successful streamers that get paid six figures to do that shit.
I loved morrowind but this requires too much patience?
I'm noticing this game is beloved by a very niche crowd, and they are trying to make everyone feel lesser for not being willing to waste 200 hours on inventory management.
@@sabus1265 lmao exactly
All gameplay aside, I took my time in act 1 like my friends told me to. Completed every quest, even got their help, (besides of course the ones that will auto fail cuz RP).
I gotta say, all of the writing is trash. They only know how to use big words and not how to structure a story.
The “Find a cure” quest totally knocks off the atmosphere of the 1st act. Coming into the game with this quest everything feels way too high stakes.
I’m not interested in any of the characters or what they say because I want to find this cure. I’m used to unforgiving games killing me very very quickly with plot devices similar to the illithid tadpole. So here I am assuming that I am going to turn into a mind flayer within 2-3 long rests. Overall this just puts a bad taste in my mouth and I am overloaded with too much high stakes cosmic horror, for a story to properly be set up.
Anything that starts with bad storytelling is immediately no fun, especially a DnD campaign. This whole story through act 1 is so f*king boring so far and I do not like it. I don’t care about any of the characters, they are uninteresting, generic and archetypal.
This seems like “baby’s first DM session” with the way the story is set up. Throwing you straight into having to save the world instead of letting you get acquainted with the world or pace yourself.
Overall, the important thing to remember is that yes ofc they are trying to replicate the fun factor of DnD to a video game. The kicker is, me a DnD 5e enthusiast (BG3 combat gameplay ain’t bad), did not have very much fun with the story of act 1.
Overall the story does not do its job of pulling me into the world and making me CARE. YES you have to MAKE the audience care. If I do not have a reason, I will not care. The characters are not fun to talk to, learn about, quest with (aside shadowheart, the only tolerable character).
I don’t care about how Gale slept with a god, I don’t care about Astarion becoming a thrall, I don’t care about La’zel (I hate her so much), I don’t care about any of the NPC’s or their problems. I’m not exactly sure what it is, but damn their stories are BORING.
The story of BG3 is Aggressively mid as far as RPG’s go. Pathfinder series, Pillars of Eternity, KOTOR 1&2, Underrail, and many more are examples of WAY better stories. These writers just seem like they know a few big words, took a basic poetry class, thought of a possibly cool antagonist and then just kinda winging it and not in a good way. No characterization or development, just one dimensional “I’m the good guy choice” and “i’m the bad guy choice”. Which is just no fun and is an illusion of story depth.
I wanted to put this here before I finished the video to see what I agreed with, and I gotta say I think video bro might just not like turned based games all that much. Larian doesn’t do it great tbh. Their enemy design is shit.
But otherwise I would say dungeons and dragons is absolutely about what the characters are going through, and their overall arc. That’s what makes people play the tabletop game, and makes the characters interesting in any single piece of media that you view. Otherwise they aren’t interesting just highly useful if they are “good” and have no depth.
You clearly have just noticed that the characters have no depth. That’s why you don’t care about any of them. Larian didn’t write any reasons for you to care. They don’t even really let you explore the depths of your own characters personality beyond the classic arrangement pioneered by bethesda- 1 be nice, 2 be nice but sarcastic, 3 be a dick but dont start a fight, 4 start a fight, 5 curated skill choice, 6 leave.
It’s boring!!!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't agree more 👍
Utterly delusional lmao
@@daryavistunova40 I killed every party member in my play through on purpose :D
Im glad I wasn't the only that felt this way about BG3, I actually can't believe this clunky ass game with some of the most hideous
gameplay flow won goty. I don't think it's the worst game I ever played but man it is nothing like people are selling it to be.
alot of glazers are stuck in act 2 still lol. they protect the game and dogpile anyone not in lockstep but never mention act 3
I am giving this game up 5 hours in. I was already kinda annoyed with all the inventory and spell management in Divinity OS2, but that game, also made by Larian, had a much better way of guiding you into understanding it's mechanics. You land on an island with no equipment and must first learn to fight with a stick. You get your abilities one after the other instead of just meeting characters that already have 20 spells to choose from. I am not gonna learn 150 spells and abilities all at once, in order to endure slow ass fighting, all that cringy dialogue and endless inventory management. After just 5 hours i am already carrying around countless items, i have no idea what their purpose is, they are messing up my inventory, and it is much too much work to sort them all through.
In addition: This game is too much informed by real world poitics. I am not against the inclusion of diverse characters in video games, being gay myself i enjoy having the option to have my male half elf get railed in an orgy by a bunch of male orks and lizzards, but not if those orks and lizzards look like they just came out of a gender studies class. The games characters do not have to look like a pride parade in order for the game to be inclusive. This is way too much pandering. A fantasy world should have a unique aesthetic much more removed from any current real world cultural movements.
I like Larian studios, and even though I'm a fan of the Baldur's Gate series, I will never play this game. I knew I'd feel the same way you do; most likely bored. I highly doubt it is TRULY difficult, and like you pointed out a bloat on spells and choice hides that there isn't really much there when it comes to combat. They only really fall into a few categories anyways so what is the point of having 50 spells. And yeah, the heavy focus on genitalia customization, sex, and relationships could disappear and I would never miss it.
The effort put into the game is spectacular. But the fights are so underwhelming. Compared to divinity 2 , BG3 fights are too easy and straight forward. Compared to BG2, even fighting mobs is more engaging than fighting bosses in BG3.
I just can't bear to look at some of the characters; the non-human women mostly.
And it's just REALLY gay, I'm sorry. It's not even an insult or anything it just feels like a gay bar.
Funny how the comments section are an echo chamber for this opinion. Its like people only seek out opinions that align with their own. I respect the opinion but dont agree with it, different strokes and all that.
I'm old enough to remember when games not railroading you and holding your hand with literal on screen directions for every action you need to take, then letting you suffer the consequences of your actions if you didn't bother to pay attention and try to solve problems through your own thinking, was the norm. And frankly the sense of accomplishment when we succeeded because we figured out the solutions rather than just riding the rails was exhilarating. I'm not usually one to dunk on the younger generations wanting instant gratification with no effort, but wow...
I would say that a game not telling you how to play it is a problem. I've had games where they just throw you in, and you have to figure out everything for yourself. It's frustrating if it's not obvious. But not only is BG3 obvious, it has a tutorial. And most things are pretty obvious.
We dont claim him hes just very clearly never played a story based game before. Or a strategy game. Or an adventure game. Or a TTRPG.
I can agree.
I am young and I do hate having to read a bunch of bs to learn a game, but I can't judge it.
An allegory for life
just say you like shit games its easier to explain
ultra boring combat system + characters that feel like from some TV shows where they hire ppl who are not actors and tell them to act. i care more about trash i took out today in the morning than about any story that was presented to me so far in this game (8 hours, mostly made of shitty 2 long turns and watching animations of running)
id say if ppl who refer to themselves as they/them and do not feel like they have any identity were a game they would be bg3 (love u all ppl, do not take your pitchforks)
this sounds like a patience/skill issue.
what is the "get gud" equivalent for cRPGs?
@@jensenmcjens4029 "git inspo" I think.
Dear god your cringe didn’t even use get good right 😂🤡
how does one have a skill issue in a glorified dating sim?
Hats of to you chap. This is excellent ragebait.
i don't agree with something so it has to be ragebait. ahh the 2 braincell take
Hahaha xD
it is though, come on@@wsrtwetr
@@wsrtwetr you're in every comment shitting on the game, man you spend more time on this games videos than people who actually play it. This shit just lives in your head
@@jacobbrackett3568 Really must be upset that it won game of the year, lmao. Cause Spiderman 1.5 totally should've won.
ur getting a lot of hate in these comments from fans of the game, but coming from someone who hasn't played it yet and was considering buying, this review definitely helped me ignore the hype and give it a pass since "rpg" to me is more akin to something like zelda than this - it seems bg3 really puts the "role playing" in "role playing game" and that's just not my cup of tea, plus when every other review is nothing but praise, we need honest perspective reviews like this to exist
Bg3 is litteraly the 5th edition of the DnD table top role-playing game turned into a videogame. It's definitely not for everybody.
Is this a real review? Too much Story, too many game-mechanics too choose from, characters with depth? If this is a real review I recommend something like Call of Duty....
yes
This video is either satire or this guy has no idea how an rpg works.
cRPG isn't a RPG though. If you read the comments you notice that he does like RPG's
@@TheNapkuchen an airplane isn't aerial vehicle either i guess or? - in your brain probably.
cRPG's are the purest form of RPG.
@@Mesterlock you've got it in reverse. Not every aerial vehicle is an airplane. RPG and cRPG aren't the same.
@@TheNapkuchen Not every aerial vehicle is an airplane, just like how not every RPG is a cRPG.
I genuinely think this video is satire. For my mental health. /j
As much I love Baldurs Gate 2 , I just hate Baldurs Gate 3.Baldurs Gate 3 looks like a fortnite with graphics , and the turn based gameplay is so annoying , and boring.I also think that the story is really much average.Baldurs Gate 2 was like LOTR movie.Baldurs Gate 3 is like Eragon movie mixed with Fortnite
Of all the complaints that are legitimate this is not one of them it doesn't look like fortnite at all you CLOWN
I still really hate the fact that they even called it Baldur's Gate 3. It has pretty much nothing to do with the original games.. There's no bhaalspawns running around.
@@jaredmcclure1730 Factually incorrect by the way. There is bhaalspawn and bhaal has a prevelant part in the story.
@@Ragitsu Have you played as the dark urge yet?
How tf do you think this game loooks like Fortnite?
First good "critical" review I've seen. It's too bland and janky to be great. The praise is a protest vote.
My problem with BG3 is that it became way too popular and putting unrealistic expectations of how good this game is on people who have never tried game in this genre, causing others to make videos like these. I really would like to hear genuine reasons as to why the game is bad or the flaws with it. But due to its popularity we get complains equivalent of "CoD is too much shooting" or "FFXVi is too much story"
I have played other games in this genre. Cringe dialogue and boring combat are not consistent features of an RPG, only a bad one. It’s convenient that people like you say that I complain about the dialogue but forget the “cringe” part and that I complain about the combat but forget the “boring” part. If I said a first person shooter has clunky controls and is too slow paced, that’s called valid criticism. A far cry from the dimwitted “Shooter game has shooting, boo hoo” that you portray. You don’t understand my points despite the 10 minute video explaining them. I would have played and reviewed Badur’s Gate 3 irrespective of its popularity. I hate seeing comments like this, making these assumptions and discrediting my review. I am as much entitled to my opinion as anyone else and my points deserve more credit or at least, a better debate than your dumbfounded “cod game too much shooty”.
@@CGJournalist Dude you could re-explain your takes over and over again, they're still really bad, whether or not you think they're objective. You can hate all these types of comments you want, but quite literally, from a game design, dialogue, branching storyline aspect, this game is being heralded as the Magnum Fucking Opus of RPG's, because people established in this world for the last 40 years have come to appreciate the nuances the genre brings.
Again, this shit isn't for you. Conflating your opinion of the game with a psuedo-critique of the aspects of cRPG dynamics isn't a review.
"My experience of this game so far has been pretty negative. The game is held back by weird game design choices and an overall a limited functionality. It goes out of its way to make things as boring as possible and if you don't see it yet, come the end of this video, you'll see what I see." --- this is the polar opposite of what literally 97 percent of 1.4 million people who have COMPLETED the game feel. You're entitled to your very wrong opinion.
@@dylanherron3963amen
I loved other games of this genre, like the Dark Eye games. This one is still boring and super annoying. Maybe works as a D&D nerd.
@@CGJournalist your takes are fucking stupid and awful for the most part. There are some things I agree as someone who beat the game multuple times but srsly blaming the game for being too woke when theres racism, genocide, slavery, and satanic ruitials is wild to me. this game simply is not for u and thats fine doesnt mean the game is bad
I wasted 50 hours on just the first act then lowered the difficulty and just got bored
Thank you confirming exactly my impressions after watching (some of) a play-through. Btw, it's worse than you thought: 4 out of 20 hours is 20%! 😀
Ya. Im on the verge of quitting.
I found a new spark
You spend the general bulk of your time doing random boring bullsh*t.
I wanted to like this game so bad, but it's so f*cking boring.
This took balls to release btw, props to you.
I agree! Omg! I am so bored playing this game and I am an old (45) gamer who played wow and even everquest back in the day. I am no stranger to rpgs. I am so bored and annoyed with the underdark, I expected something wayyyy coolet more like in Salvatore's book homeland.
Salvatore’s book homeland?? You mean Ed Greenwood? Can’t ask for Menzoberranzan when you don’t even know who created Toril.
I am right there with you. I also read Homeland and quite nearly all of the other R.A. Salvatore novels written for the Forgotten Realms universe. This 'BG3' does not 'feel' like the Forgotten Realms setting at all. It is a far cry from what the other FR-based PC-games were able to evoke, including even the more mediocre productions. BG 1 and 2, along with their original expansions, play and 'read' like a well-written novel; they manifested the FR atmsophere really well (I would also say the same about Planescape: Torment, which technically plays and reads as a parallel universe to FR). After reading through what all Chris Avellone revealed about the inner-workings of Obsidian Entertainment over at RPGCodex, I can kind of understand now why Wizards of the Coast turned them down and decided to work with another company. However, what we are left with is a hollow shell of the title.
@@SevillaLorenzo-kd2ef No. It was Salvatore that wrote the Dark Elf trilogy. lol.
@@lemystere5345 I think its just a modern take or generational thing... Just look at Beamdog's NPCs they added to BG1 and BG2.. They are basically the same kind of bland and boring characters that are present in BG3.
This game feels like a chore, after rough day at work i want relax not study the fucking game to make myself better.
It depends what you are doing for a living. I am the whole time on PC organizing stuff and I don't want to organize stuff in a game. I love strategy games, but they need to be kinda easy to get on.
Nah
You are just stupid
0:58 I can understand people not liking the pacing of the game. Its more meant to take your time and use elements from the DND tabletop. Since I’m assuming you’re unfamiliar with the tabletop, I can understand how you feel about the speed of the game
1:10 Your point on the dialogue never ending is a bit confusing. It sounds more you weren’t personally satisfied with the characters and story. Perhaps this type of story isn’t meant for you specifically and that’s fine. I feel this point of it comes off a bit rough though, there is plenty of value in good voice acting and character interactions in this game that I think this point undermines. But hey, that’s your take and thats fine.
1:13 Yeah this happens plenty of times, valid point
1:20 While its frustrating to begin that fight while caught off guard, it's a bit odd you opted to just reload the save instead of attempting the fight. That particular encounter has you at a disadvantage sure, but the combat gives you tools along with 3 other companions to handle these kinds of battles, in terms of party count that encounter had you evenly matched in numbers alone. Nothing wrong with trying to overcome the challenge, you can just learn from the fight if you lose and try again. That was probably not the best footage to illustrate that point I would say.
1:33 this is an interesting segment. The Phase Spider Matriarch is a difficult fight for sure, but alot of the times, you opted to reload the saves when your party was for the most part healthy or got caught while stealthing, one reload was a complete party wipe I did see. Just wanted to get some insight on the reasons for these resets. May I also ask what difficulty you chose for this game?
1:45 eh, this is kinda a moot point. Theres a fast travel point at the grove you could use. Its more a result of your forgetting some mechanics and not selling your loot. Funny meme about the gate at least tho.
2:03 this is more of an awareness issue I would say. Yeah the black screen didnt help you there at first when the roll happened, but it is a bit silly you didnt question why the chest was glowing orange after your character mentions a trap.
2:25 The point on party managment I would say is more of a preference based take there. For sure its alot of information to take in, especially if you havent played DND. But again, this sounds more like your type of game is more Solo RPG when the point of this game is more group and party oriented. Playing with some friends can also help offset this issue, I’ve found playing this game with friends to be a lot of fun and only having to worry about our individual characters. I wouldn’t say as a absolute point its “tedious and boring”, it takes from a system with a beloved fandom that has been played for many years, I would really stress your points emphasize your opinion than saying it like its fact through more appopriate word choicing emphasizing your opinion part of the review where a lot of people are not taking a liking to your video.
3:07 Hit rates are very common in a lot of RPGs. While the system can certainly feel rigged at times, it makes for interesting tension when chances end up in your favor and your strategies come to fruition. And, your point on careful positioning leading up to this point on hit rates really doesn’t fit with the footage you ended up choosing for this segment, you rushed the boss on his throne in a camp filled with enemies surrounding him in the open, there is higher ground you can take, different equipment and spells to try, but I would say that footage does not display at all your validility in claims on hit rates when you start a fight in the worst possible position.
4:04 The myconid colony tells you these are sl**ers at that camp you wandered into, your point on just walking away is just… silly. Even if you did miss that dialogue, it shouldnt be hard to figure out these are hostile enemies when they mention "KILL THE Sl**ves” in that dialogue scene.
4:12 Again, just try the fight. I don’t understand your need to constantly reload.
4:28 Yeah you mentioned this back on 1:10 but I do agree on this point, its not always easy to interact with. The camera isn’t perfect either so I will shake your hand on those points.
4:52 yeah no defending that one, the game kinda lies there lol, thats my first time seeing Gale do that too lol.
5:40 eh, I feel like i need some elaboration on this one. The game gives you a lot of options in handling fights. The goblin camp for instance can allow you to interact with some statues to collapse on the goblins, go up on the rafters and shoot them on higher ground, using barrels like you did in your example footage, etc. I feel your point on your consistent strategy not always working is not quite understandable either. DND encourages a lot of different solutions beyond just the same action over and over again, in fact its cool to tackle some encounters in different ways your character might not be proficient in.
6:01 There are ways to solve encounters, boiling this point down to “most players wont figure out on their own” is again, not the best wording when it comes to reviewing this game. Theres a reason so many people are in love with this game, it clearly isnt meant for you given how you feel about the game’s mechanics. Nothing wrong with disliking the game, but looping in “most players” comes across like an overexaggeration if im gonna be honest here.
6:32 So…. what does this mean? This point a bit of a disservice to the voice actors and developers in the time of developing these characters to say its all “cringe".
7:20 Eh, that reaction was awful man. Just enjoy the music, its a person being inspired to play music again after watching her teacher die in front of her from a pack of gnolls. This reaction is just immature and doesn’t come across very well on your points about disliking the story when the scene presents a very nicely composed song and solid character setup for the bard girl. What exactly is embarassing to you about this scene in particular?
9:55 Good writing should not be the focus of your game? Thats a uh, odd point to end on. The video just ends on a rough note without a final reflections or something to tie it together. This ending just elicits a very sour tasting ending. Plus your claims on “It’s DND, it's an escape from reality”, does not resonate with me at all when you follow up not caring about the characters or NPCs. Maybe you play the game differently, but DND can be a lot more than just combat. It can also about connecting with your party and the NPCs and world your DM builds as well. It goes back to my point on overexaggerating “all players”, this here is an overexaggeration of what you think DND is supposed to be. I feel you especially missed the mark on this ending hence why alot of people aren’t taking kindly to your video in the comments.
Anyways, if you read this, just wanna say I hope this video is a good learning experience for you as a creator. You’ve got good potential for sure, good memes and good voice overall. I would just be mindful of how you come across in your reviews as “matter of fact”, at least that was how I interpreted it at first. I hope I came across more critical of your video than negative, even if there were some points I felt didn’t quite sit well with me from a viewer perspective, so I ask you to not take my reflections as an attack, rather my intention to give more critical feedback than anything else. Take care and keep up the grind my man! Wish you all the best in you endeavors.
No, I greatly appreciate feedback like this. I think it's true sometimes I can be very matter of fact. It's easy to get caught up in trying to prove your point as apposed to just present it. Never thought my video would've warranted this level of moment to moment analysis and I will do my best to learn from the experience. I hope every review I make can feel like an extension from the last. Thanks again! :D
@incredibilis7149 CGJournalist has been quite gracious in responding to your comment, but I find your comment undeservedly patronizing. His review makes fair points, and he backs every point up with examples. Frankly I think your reply just basically boils down to "you don't like something I like, and I can't take it.". Full disclosure: I haven't yet bought or played the game. I've been reading reviews trying to decide what game I should spend my limited resources on (what can I say, sixty bucks is a lot of money for me), and his review actually makes more sense than the positive ones I've read. I mean, the positive reviews all say the story is super awesome, but at the same time this super awesome story somehow isn't quite finished? The devs released the game, and then immediately had to issue MASSIVE patch after MASSIVE patch? After years in EA? It doesn't inspire confidence.
Oh, and speaking of things that don't inspire confidence, I listened to the music at 7:20 and I literally did an involuntary cringe. You are wildly generous in your estimation of that drippy, insipid, arrhythmic, atonal, sorry ass quavering that made me want to fill my ears with putty. Perhaps after listening to his pupil sing her teacher lost his will to live and committed suicide by gnolls? Just a thought. Serious question: why do games set in fantasy medieval-ish times or Renaissance-like settings all too often make the music so lousy? And not just this game. The Witcher is terrific, but there was this one cutscene one time where a woman bard was supposed to be singing a poignant ballad about Yennefer and it was hilariously dismal. Don't game devs hire people who truly know the music of that period? I have listened to a fair amount of that type of music, and I think a lot of it is excellent! The dance music can be delightful, and the ballads can raise the hairs on your arm. What gives?
This game is so amazing it’s pretty much ruined other games for me. The fact this game has amazing story, and not a single bad voice actor is beyond amazing. The only negative is the clear drop in quality in act 3, due to budget and writing changes.
I understand your point, everyone has a different opinion, but let me defend this masterpiece (for me).
Dungeons and dragons is an amazing game that isn't for everyone, but a constant thing about the people who play d&d is the absurd times we fail our skill cheks, the dices are not on our side, and we can't save and load, the director of the game not let you reroll your dice, ao you have to fail and clean up your mess, that is the fun of d&d, so, at least, when you say you reload to success a dice roll, I twist a little. You need to fail, and you will success also, in real life nothing will be like you want always, I understand your disgust with the battle, but it is how it is, a tactical battle, you need to think to fight, I like your video, hope you play D&D someday
Sorry if I say something grammatically wrong, english isn't my first language
Your English is excellent! I hadn't actually considered how the roll fails, simulate a real D&D campaign. That's a very valid point and I appreciate your comment! :D
@@CGJournalist
Yeah, some of the most funny dialogue is hidden behind failures (I believe intentionally) because in D&D you are supposed to roll with your failures.
@@Aurora_Lightbringer huh usually its fight some 5+ level guys
I fully agree with you saying the game is slow and in what ways it's slow, there are absolutely ways that it could be sped up. A sprint button wouldn't really work here but, a speed up time button or faster animations, better camerawork and better door hit-boxes would also be great.
On the other hand though, I completely disagree with your statement on the dialog being cringe and the characters being poorly written.
The example you gave for the cringe dialog being the tiefling bard fell flat for me. the first part you showed was "bad" on purpose as she was struggling to find words, and the song being one of the first moments in the game that caught me off guard with how good it was. Similarly, Karlach was able to make me actually feel bad for her. Same with all the VAs doing, what I find to be, wonderful work.
Though, I must admit, you are right about them being really horny out of the blue, but one big ol' *no* will get them to stop pretty fast, so it's not too big of a problem after the first bits.
Even worse, once you actually GET into the game and characters, you come to the point where the propaganda is so obvious, it’s not even hidden anymore.
I really don’t give a shit about what religion you are, if you wish to be an atheist or Satanist go on! But please, just stop saying gods are evil and Hell is real and absolute freedom is pinnacle of every man’s existence.
I am not a Satanist, I will never be, and I play my games for fun, not to listen to each one of these characters lowkey moralizing to me every time we talk.
Then you manage to push through the propaganda, anti-religious notions and blatant Satanism, telling yourself:”It’s just a game, it’s in the lore!”
But then the game suddenly starts pulling out game-breaking bugs such as your characters starting with 0 action points although they’ve literally just been standing in place and not moving, constant FPS drops and blurry textures, and every single encounter in Act 3 is also so difficult, you have no choice but to min-max your build every single time.
Fuck. That. I play games for fun, and this game made me uninstall it 10 times already, and I somehow always install it back thinking I’ll find something redeeming about this garbage.
Spoiler alert, I never do.
its also weird how they portray Selune and her child. Selune is know to be one of the gods who contacts her believers the most.. AND Ketherick or whatever his name is is a fucking holy man with her powers. meaning selune is on the speed dial, why didnt she awnser?
the child/madame, children of gods are usually demigods or above lvl 10 characters who are somewhat more like their parents than mortals children.. which cannot be undone by a tadpole with some magic on it like the bhaalspawn. BG1 and 2 also suffered from this but not as badly.
Funny how everyone was yelling this game was the best game over so many other contenders for any awards and now everyone says it’s boring lmbo
It’s the same people that said it before. Nothing change, the hype just died down and the Haters are still salty that they’re generic ass games got fxckd
Everyone? a handful of morons with ADHD isn't "everyone" lol.
I literally just install the game today, and I have no clue what he's complaining about. I'm already level 3 and found good weapons. I was one who praised it back then, and I keep doing the same (having just played it now).
Everyone say it's boring? Where did you get that from? Some people in the comment section = everyone?
The contracts ran out so people got stop being paid to pretend it's good.
I think... I hate choice in games, I decide all day at work, in life, what to eat, what to wear and then I want to enjoy my hobby, I'm faced with 15,000 dilemmas...
Dark Souls designed it best, "here's a sword and shield, now go fight god motherf*cker"
You can't go against the wok mob, how dare you? xD
Woke mobs don't even buy videogames. Suicide Squad, Concord and Dustborn were woke as hell and flopped harder than any other titles for the past few years.
Act3 has a few noticeable woke traits in act3 which I didn' like but overall, you can still do the most immoral things in this game, kill women and poc if that's what you like and become a complete sicko that will ruin everything and everyone around him.
If BG3 had truly been badly infested by woke shit, the game would have flopped hard like most recent woke video games, comics and movies. Everybody is growing tired of plain activism in entertainment and fortunately for it BG3 is a good game in the first place, despite its few woke touches.
@@deceiver444 What are you on?
I work into the industry since a long time, it has never been more wok than now (at the point I'm scared to use certain words to do not get bot-reported, even here on yt).
This game is totally wok, not just act3, the fact that you can do sick things doesn't depend on the wok-mindset, it's just a necessity, given the game context, if they would limit the game it would suck even more, considering that the game mechanics were totally bugged at launch, and anyway are boring.
The only reason for which this game didn't flop like the other woktrocities is that the role-playing games industry is also superwok, hence it was a perfect marriage, the fanbase was assured.
Also, the wokmob tries to celebrate every bs, they tried that with Suicide Squad as well, not always it works, but with the D&D fans they have had better luck.
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- what do you do in fhe industry ?
- what is so terribly woke in the first two acts in your opinion ?
- DnD has a vast pool of players spread on the whole political spectrum from the right to the left.
Doesn't change the fact that if BG3 truly had been pure woke garbage, it would have failed hard.
I abhore woke stuff, and even though I immediately noticed various bits of it in BG3, the story/mechanics/branching possibilities and all core elements which make a good crpg were there. And that's the main reason of BG3's massive success : a crpg good enough (and with no micro transactions btw) that even his few woke aspects didn't turn off the majority of players who usually hate the cliché progressive agendas who have been increasingly plaguing modern entertainment for the past few years.
last played Aug 8th 2023 with a total of 67mins never turned back
I agree with you, man. I am a big fan of Soulsborne having put more than 1000 + hours in all those games. I enjoyed Skyrim, Dragon Age: Origins so I decided to give this one a try and had high hopes going in. I must say that I agree on most of your points. Gameplay feels too slow and dragging. Dialogs are fine but the amount of them feels overwhelming too. I was enjoying turn based combat but the rng hit chance is boring idea to my liking. All combats were boiled down to "I can roll without saving/loading and get killed/almost killed at the end" or reload and have obliterated all enemies. So it wasn't how skilled I was/how good my decisions were, but rather will Astarion miss this one shot or not.
Why play a character and story based game if you dont care how they feel? I love to read, and this felt like playing a book, but i could choose how the story went. Your criticism is vaild and reasonable. It is not a game for you. I didn't like candy crush, but many people do. We all have tastes
In my personal case, because I do not know them, like anything. It's random people, and the fact that I got to controll their actions feels weird since they are unique and independent people with their own stories and temperament. Have you tried Octopath Traveler? That game provides you a backstory for every playable character in the game (if u want to), the game shows you a flashback so you can meet the characters, their motivations, frustrations, pain, dreams and why are they fighting for.
Bg3 just put a bunch of hyperventilated people in front of you and expect you to like them, I don't, they are so mean and weird, they would tell me about their life but why would I want to know in the first place? I don't wanna hear their damn backstory on dialogue, they could make a playable or cinematic so you can get info about them, honestly, it's really boring to hear characters talk for hours, I do love to read, but Im honestly not interested in that amount of speech and text on a turn based rpg.
"You not like words? I like many words. I smart."
You say critics of the game are too stupid to appreciate it? If we're gonna assume each other's intelligence based on gaming tastes, seems to me more like fanboys dumb enough to endure it. Victims of hype, playing the latest big thing in genre to keep up with all the memes.
Why so much seething and coping every time an unknown youtuber trash talks the current darling for a couple minutes?
And it being rather popular means nothing, by that metric the entire RPG genre is worthless next to Flappy Bird.
@@Kaucukovnik666where did you get “you’re not smart enough to appreciate this game” from?
@@bucketts6148 From using Candy Crush as an example of "different tastes in gaming". More comments like this are littered all around, usually even less subtle.
@Kaucukovnik666 It's an example, my friend, not a question of the reviewer intelligence. Would Fortnite be better or Apex Legends or COD. Pick your position. It doesn't change anything I said. I like the game, and others don't have to is the point. Life is too short to be wasting it on things you don't enjoy doing.
Its a mixed bag for me. Great world, exploration, graphics and customization. Somewhat cringy dialogue with a lot of hornyness does get tiring after awhile (mostly avoidable if you know where to look but sometimes not either). Companions are hit or miss, with some being really entertaining and interesting, while others are downright boring or annoying. The custom character also feels hollow for some reason, the world doesnt let you do a backstory or it doesnt interact with you the same way it does your companions. The game felt way more interesting with origin characters because it felt fleshed out more. The perfect example of this is Tav Warlock vs Wyll, Wyll felt much better to play because the story interacts with your class way more then with a custom character (Dark Urge is the perfect example of a custom character that has personal ties to the story and world, this should of been a thing with regular tav as well).
The combat is actually really good but it just feels so slow waiting for turns constantly. Most similar games solve this by just letting you speed up the turns which I felt should of been included in this game for those who maybe wanted to make the encounters a bit faster. I had to get mods to speed up the overworld walking cause it felt super slow getting from one place to another sometimes (It only needed to be a tad faster to make it feel good). Act 1 is tedious and a bit boring but it does ramp up from there, sadly by the time Act 1 was over I mostly was just burned out and needed to take a break from the game.
Overall I'd give it a 7.5/10. I enjoyed Divinity 2 much better for gameplay reasons and the bit more serious tone.
I really enjoyed Bg3 overall despite a few things. How does DOS compare in terms of gameplay and writing ?
Balders Gate 3 = 'Point and Click - The Game!'
every game is point and click
You either point with your mouse or navigate via direction keys to "point"
You click on either the mouse or certain keys for actions
Every game in every platform is point and click how are you so fuckin stupid?
I wish I could like this video again.
@@Urbrainongaming create ten new youtube accounts with new emails and you'll be able to like it ten more times
I agree. It's the most boring RPG I've ever tried to play. The plot is awful, the dialogue is cringy as hell, and the combat... good god the combat.. I'd rather watch paint dry.
This coming from someone who has done multiple play throughs of BG1/BG2 and was looking forward to the game.
This is the first game I requested a refund for. So boring. And I have 100% every game I have ever played. Witcher 3, Cyberpunk, Dark Souls, Division 2 anything you can think of. But this.... Turn based really isn't my type, and fuck the reviewers saying that BG3 is good regardless. It isn't.
but it is, because they said so