I'm glad I saw your video. Especially the part at 12:24. After spending days dowloading it all I felt really depressed because I thought I just don't like the sound of the room because too big. I'll have to have a play around with that setting. I really like a nice roomy drum sound but like Steve Albini or even Pinkerton by Weezer. I don't want to sound like Def Leopard.
After playing around with it some more, I still don't like the room. It must be just me though as everyone else seems to love it. I downloaded addictive drums 2 and that was more of the sound I was looking for.
"Stuff below 40 will just chatter your speakers" ... wtf!? Well then, elevate your speaker game... ;) Bigger more capable mains, or bass mgmt., subwoofer system. Kidding aside, this was great! And I have absolutely no need for such software.... unless I'm creating my own reference tracks for system demonstration, evaluation or tuning...
OK folks, when SD3 is in Logic as a plugin, The record button in SD3 is greyed. I was able to record a Bass Drum in the SD3 GUI, but nothing else. I'm obviously trying to figure it out. The Manual dosen't cover the plugin mode function at all. What I've been doing is recording the midi in logic, then exporting it as a midi file, then draggin the midi file to the SD3 GUI..........Too many steps for software that costs $400. What am I doing wrong? Also, Why can't I play an audio file in SD3 to build a song from, i.e. a guitar track.
You've got your solo on! :-) Very good review, nice and straight forward. I purchased it, amazing. the only slight negative I have is that the cymbals are a little weak in places, they tend to die away rather quickly compared to those for example in the Steven Slate drums (free version). I ended up using those to replace my SD3 versions. That said, I haven't been through them all yet so maybe they were simply the ones associated with that particular drum set. Soon after, I purchased the iZotope Neutron and Ozone Advanced package and that is pretty amazing as well. You think the drums sound good with standard DS3, wait 'til you load the Neutron acoustic drums channel mix plugin to the BUS!
Oh Guy, what have you done! I've got software drums coming out of my ears, and vowed to never again purchase anymore. Yes, you guessed it..and doing it now! Great demo as always!
Thanks Bob - I know what you mean, I definitely felt the same way after the debacle of SD2 and being happy with EZ2. And then they go and release SD3...
Dear god the micing has been fixed? This was such a pain in SD2 when combining expansions! Question: when you changed the snares and the graphics change, does that also work on cymbals? If I put a splash on the china slot, does it then look like a splash? I think I just might check that forum out, I'm looking for an audio community :)
Very cool Guy, I think you are doing a better job of selling this than Toontrack! You mention 80GB quite a bit - did you find it easy enough to select only what you need for the install to avoid taking up a full SSD?
It would be nice if the ambience effects were available separately in the DAW to use for other tracks such as guitar etc. It would avoid any odd effects / anomalies when mixing other instruments with separate verbs in the mix.
Thanks for sharing sir! This was helpful. I've only downloaded the basic library so far. Is that all you are demonstrating here or did you download the additional room mics as well? From what you said in this video, it sounds like you just have the basic library and the additional bleed library installed.
up to this point, i've been using ez drummer and I wrote my own drums with the help of FL's piano roll from which I could export its midi track. now I am thinking between SD 3 or EZD 2(way cheaper), and I was hoping SD 3 now can handle the creating method too :\ why don't they just add this feature? it's not that big deal drawing some dots for each instrument :D
Hi Sergey - the core kit I'm looking at now has 23 different hi hat artics - they're named as 8x edge (closed, tight, open variations); 8x tip, 7x bell, closed and open pedal and seq hits (these sound pedal-ish to me, a louder closed),. Can't see a hand held choke, but closed pedal would be more appropriate anyway I'd have thought?
Great overview,thank you !!! i'm own Superior Drummer 2 it's nice but i like easy way in EzDrummer 2 too ,my question is: It's worth upgrade to Superior Drummer 3 from SD2 and i have also few ezx expansions and Metal Foundry ?
I have both and I would say upgrade with caution. SD 3 does not allow you to drill down to the individual instrument level in grooves like you can in SD 2 (at least not that I can see) and maybe because it is created by some programmer in Sweden they don't use standard US/UK keyboard shortcuts like Command instead of Alt which is frustrating to use especially as no other software I have does this.
In terms of the software it is - and that's a very good thing. Both share the groove section with Tap 2 Find, swapping kit parts is similar (and very different to SD2).
I'm glad I saw your video. Especially the part at 12:24. After spending days dowloading it all I felt really depressed because I thought I just don't like the sound of the room because too big. I'll have to have a play around with that setting. I really like a nice roomy drum sound but like Steve Albini or even Pinkerton by Weezer. I don't want to sound like Def Leopard.
After playing around with it some more, I still don't like the room. It must be just me though as everyone else seems to love it. I downloaded addictive drums 2 and that was more of the sound I was looking for.
"Stuff below 40 will just chatter your speakers" ... wtf!?
Well then, elevate your speaker game... ;)
Bigger more capable mains, or bass mgmt., subwoofer system.
Kidding aside, this was great! And I have absolutely no need for such software.... unless I'm creating my own reference tracks for system demonstration, evaluation or tuning...
OK folks, when SD3 is in Logic as a plugin, The record button in SD3 is
greyed. I was able to record a Bass Drum in the SD3 GUI, but nothing
else. I'm obviously trying to figure it out. The Manual dosen't cover
the plugin mode function at all. What I've been doing is recording the
midi in logic, then exporting it as a midi file, then draggin the midi
file to the SD3 GUI..........Too many steps for software that costs
$400. What am I doing wrong? Also, Why can't I play an audio file in
SD3 to build a song from, i.e. a guitar track.
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You've got your solo on! :-) Very good review, nice and straight forward. I purchased it, amazing. the only slight negative I have is that the cymbals are a little weak in places, they tend to die away rather quickly compared to those for example in the Steven Slate drums (free version). I ended up using those to replace my SD3 versions. That said, I haven't been through them all yet so maybe they were simply the ones associated with that particular drum set. Soon after, I purchased the iZotope Neutron and Ozone Advanced package and that is pretty amazing as well. You think the drums sound good with standard DS3, wait 'til you load the Neutron acoustic drums channel mix plugin to the BUS!
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Oh Guy, what have you done! I've got software drums coming out of my ears, and vowed to never again purchase anymore. Yes, you guessed it..and doing it now! Great demo as always!
Thanks Bob - I know what you mean, I definitely felt the same way after the debacle of SD2 and being happy with EZ2. And then they go and release SD3...
Guy Rowland My God, I love it! Especially all these grooves played by real drummers! You could never do that with your fingers!
Dear god the micing has been fixed? This was such a pain in SD2 when combining expansions!
Question: when you changed the snares and the graphics change, does that also work on cymbals? If I put a splash on the china slot, does it then look like a splash?
I think I just might check that forum out, I'm looking for an audio community :)
Sorry I missed this Mark - yes it does.
Thanks, Guy!
Very cool Guy, I think you are doing a better job of selling this than Toontrack!
You mention 80GB quite a bit - did you find it easy enough to select only what you need for the install to avoid taking up a full SSD?
Missed a load of comments here, sorry - yes, its very easy to just select what you need for download.
It would be nice if the ambience effects were available separately in the DAW to use for other tracks such as guitar etc. It would avoid any odd effects / anomalies when mixing other instruments with separate verbs in the mix.
you can do it the other way around. you can route these dry via output channels into the DAW and use trhe DAW reverb
Thanks for sharing sir! This was helpful. I've only downloaded the basic library so far. Is that all you are demonstrating here or did you download the additional room mics as well? From what you said in this video, it sounds like you just have the basic library and the additional bleed library installed.
Hi Josh, this video is just the main and room mics, so about an 80gb install.
SD2 was not a pain at all...it was pretty easy to navigate and set up drums
Hi Guy they do have a select all for the bleed if you look under properties then bleed from instruments theres a select bleed from all instruments tab
Ah yes thank you, someone else pointed this out too - I am a dummy! I've added a little subtitle on that bit now to point out my stupidity :)
in sd 3 can I write my own midi tracks in sd 3 alone or does it still need a base program like cubase, FL, ableton, etc...?
SD3 can do all the drum programming, but it's not a DAW so you'll need something for everything else!
up to this point, i've been using ez drummer and I wrote my own drums with the help of FL's piano roll from which I could export its midi track. now I am thinking between SD 3 or EZD 2(way cheaper), and I was hoping SD 3 now can handle the creating method too :\ why don't they just add this feature? it's not that big deal drawing some dots for each instrument :D
Does your dentist play drums?
Thank you for the clear demo. And what about the articulation of a high hat? I mean stroke and the choke
Hi Sergey - the core kit I'm looking at now has 23 different hi hat artics - they're named as 8x edge (closed, tight, open variations); 8x tip, 7x bell, closed and open pedal and seq hits (these sound pedal-ish to me, a louder closed),. Can't see a hand held choke, but closed pedal would be more appropriate anyway I'd have thought?
:) Sorry for my english. "8x tip, 7x bell, closed and open pedal and seq hits" - this is the answer I was waiting for.
I really enjoyed that. Thanks
Can you send me a link to that fourm that you're talking about
that'll be www.thesoundboard.net - cheers
You do have a select all. Hold down left and drag over buttons
Indeed so - guy roeswell pointed this out many weeks ago, and there should be a subtitle there to correct my dumb error.
Great overview,thank you !!! i'm own Superior Drummer 2 it's nice but i like easy way in EzDrummer 2 too ,my question is: It's worth upgrade to Superior Drummer 3 from SD2 and i have also few ezx expansions and Metal Foundry ?
I'd say definitely.
Thank you for advice,i gonna upgrade very soon,cheers!!!
I have both and I would say upgrade with caution. SD 3 does not allow you to drill down to the individual instrument level in grooves like you can in SD 2 (at least not that I can see) and maybe because it is created by some programmer in Sweden they don't use standard US/UK keyboard shortcuts like Command instead of Alt which is frustrating to use especially as no other software I have does this.
Well thanks for info.I dont upgrade yet. Whats that mean the new SD3 is more close to EZDrummer than SD 2?
In terms of the software it is - and that's a very good thing. Both share the groove section with Tap 2 Find, swapping kit parts is similar (and very different to SD2).
Me too!!
Lovely stuff.
left and right hits on all drums?
Not that I know of, I don't think there's separate hits.