How to Price; Two Stump Grinder Styles; LX3310/2038R Comparison
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Stump Grinding for a long time viewer. Tractor Time with Tim uses the Kubota LX3310 & Baumalight 1P24 while Steve uses the John Deere 2038R & 3P24. Some comparison observations between these tractors.
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I truly enjoyed myself, and I and my son are both pleased with the job.
Nice to see both units working and compare them. After I bought a stump grinder, neighbors found a path to my door. It’s nice to feel wanted😊. Blessings to you and Christy.
I bought the 1P24 for my 1025r. I am very happy with it. After the first 15-20 stumps I got pretty good at it. I found that using the 7-8 o'clock position or the other side at that angle works best. It doesn't cut as smooth if you have the bottom or 6 o'clock position taking to much. Also keep those turn buckles tight. I really appreciate the effort you and your wife have put into showing these and the price. I am very grateful.
Yep. Keep the turn buckles tight! ...and cut with the sides. 4-5pm or 7-8pm.
The LX has a hydraulic activated PTO. When you engage the lever it lets hydraulic fluid flow thru to engage somehow. It can be tricky to engage smoothly, especially a rotary cutter. Another UA-camr said to imagine the lever is a sink faucet turning on water and to push the lever forward about 75% and hold for a second then go all the way forward to avoid a jerky start. I haven't had a chance to try this method yet since seeing the info. Great video as always!
Thanks for the feedback Tim
I was originally focusing on the 1P24, but watching the 3P24 swing back and forth it seem more stable and user friendly plus they offer a flow control and dual Hydraulics (Optional)
The weight is almost double but so is the price, which I'm sure its worth it
The 1P24 would be the better choice for Weight & Price
I don't have a lot of use to justify the higher price plus the room for storing it
The Wife has decided using a Tree guy a few time for 5 stumps (One Really Big One) and spent around $800
That would have been a nice down payment for the 1P24
We are planning on getting 5 to 10 acres out in the country soon and just might need one then
Thanks
Ken in Florida
I've had both now in the last 5 years. If you have two rear scv's already, do yourself a favor and get the swinging model. It cuts much faster and doesn't jump nearly as much. I bought a quick attach brand that has cutting teeth on both sides of the wheel, so i can cut on the return swing as well. All the brands look quite similar in operation though.
Tim, I totally agree with you on that pedal on the Kubota. My previous job had a b2650 & I mowed with it 8 hrs a day 2 days a week & man I'm happy I don't have to operate that thing anymore.
Great grinders Batman!!
I have 6-7 stumps to do myself, will rent one no doubt.
For me the treadle pedal is totally natural and simple. My 32 year old Gravely has one so it was a no brainer for me, the Kubota among other reasons.
Great video. The 3P24 stump grinder is definitely my most profitable implement per hour but it probably is also the hardest on the tractor
I subscribe to your channel as well, but I don't think I've had the chance to see your stump grinding episode yet. Looking forward to taking a look at it as I know you had a big project. I will say that where we have our family property in Western Arkansas the rental company won't even rent out walk behind stone grinders, because they kept getting beat up most of the time that they were returned and were too expensive to maintain.
@@jimmcknight3021 I’ve been using the stump grinder quite a bit lately and did several videos on it.
I had the same experience with my area not having them available to rent.
Several types of equipment that people said they rent nobody does around here
I wanted to rent a wood chipper before I ordered mine and nobody had them either
1p24 would be nearly impossible to use with a mechanical drive tractor. One could never find a good fit between PTO rpm and wheelspeed.
Correct. 1P24 requires hydrostatic drive.
Any tips on how to price out jobs?
Around here a lot of rental places here say that people just abused the hell out of them so they dropped stump grinders from the lineup rather than pay the maintenance costs.
I have the woodland Mills which is Identical to the 1p24 ( suspect same unit, different colour) and have done a lot of very large and very hard ironwood stumps with it both aged and green and always been impressed. I bought this type so my father could use it too. Watched a fit young guy from the tree company wrestle one of those big self drive ones and he admitted he was wrecked after using it for 10 Min and so were the other 2 fit young guys that all took turns. I said no way dad and I are going to last 2 Min on one of those. With these type you can sit on your bum and work all day without having heart attack and the blades are far bigger than anything comparable at 5X the price.
I'm doing it on my own land so getting the job done as fast as humanly possible is not the goal but it only takes Minutes on trees up to about 24" once you get the hang of the thing which does not take long. Biggest I have done so far was over 40" above the ground and got bigger fast as I went down but even that was only about 20 Min. Took longer to pick up and smooth out all the grindings when I was done. There was a BIG pile! Leave them heaped not level as the break down and you will end up with a dip you have to come back and fill otherwise.
Like a lot of things, they can be heavy and hard to manipulate to get on the 3 point but I made a Flat trolley I park it on so I can wheel the thing round with MM precision to hook it up. Even my 82 Yo father has no problem with it now other than the shaft being a bit hard for him to get to like everything else. The machine itself just rolls into position anywhere you want it on the castor wheeled Trolley and is no effort to get into perfect position to put the pins straight in.
Ideal cut depth with these is about 2" . At that height they cut clean and don't bounce. You have to use the Front of the blade, ( tractor side) and drag forward, not the edge of the blade. If you cut on the edge the thing will bounce. Unlike Tim I lift the blade slightly at the end of the cut and don't push it back as there are only 4 teeth on the back but whatever works.
Saved the price of Mine the first day I had it literally. Other thing was the Tree companies I used to get in ALWAYS left some stump because they never clear off the chips like in the vid to have a look and had to get them back, sometimes 3 times. I miss bits too on occasion but now its no problem and no waiting to clean them up and get on with whatever I need to do.
One thing that has amazed me is the resilience of the cutter teeth. I bought a set of spares with the machine as where I am is nothing but rocks with some dirt in between and although I tend to dig around and pull out as many as I can before I start, I have ground some the size of bricks in half that were beside the stump and I couldn't tell I was on them because I was still seeing shavings. Smaller rocks the blade will tend to tear out and throw to the side. The teeth are as good as they were at the start of the 30 Hours I put the thing on and have now done as I keep record of.
Very tough teeth and a very heavy duty, simple, effective and great Return on investment tool
Great Vid Tim. Stephen is right, they are a lot of fun to use even if they are still work.
Woodland Mills made in China, Baumalight made in North America.
@@TractorTimewithTim I'll take the Chinese one thanks. Their machinery has been very reliable and well built in my experience. Sorry but only Americans think their manufacturing is superior.
@Dummy. We report, you decide!
@@thedummyspit8814 you miss the whole point about buying American. And why maybe you shouldn’t buy Chinese.
Good point
But also John Deere parts are made in China
It’s hard to find things not made in China
I believe having a stump to grind is better than having an axe to grind. I have a very large hillside in front of my house that was covered with brush when we moved in. A couple of years ago my neighbor came over with his skid steer and decided that I needed all of that brush cleaned off. I and more so MLWJ (My Lovely Wife Janis) do enjoy it cleaned off and it really looks nice now, but I still give him the dickens about it when I slide down it on my mower. Anyway there were a few stumps that I didn't get cut down low enough with my chain saw that would catch the mower deck but it's really to steep to get on it with a conventional stump grinder. So I bought a really cheap wood chipping wheel for my 4.5" angle grinder, hooked it up to my portable generator, got down on my knees and went to work on them. The largest one was about 12" and it was cedar so it didn't take me long and it sure is nice not getting the mower deck hung up on the stumps when skidding down the hill.
Minute adjustments on the 3 pt lower link turnbuckles is an advantage ... ha ha ... like when is that needed ... never? I could be wrong.
Hang out with some Orange people for a while to see how different people use the treadle pedal. There are a lot of methods. I keep my foot on the outside of the pedal. I have to say the way you are holding your foot does seem really uncomfortable. I do find the type of shoe/boot I have on makes it more/less easy to do. I also find the seat adjustment helps/hurts the operation of the pedal since it changes the angle of your leg.
Yea. Agree on the 3 pt.
Disagree on the treadle. This debate is silly. 100 yrs of experience with automobiles! Much easier to move only the toe rather than lift the heel.
The automobile comparison isn’t valid. No cars that I know of reverse via any type of pedal. Tractors are just completely different for reversing and braking. No matter what tractor you buy, you have to learn a different way of controlling compared to an auto.
You are just working at a disadvantage because you learned the completely different compared to auto John Deere pedal style instead of the completely different compared to auto Kubota style. On the other hand, I don’t have that previous experience with a John Deere to interfere with my muscle memory.
You hit on the reason I bought a stump grinder. I wanted to expand my garden through where a stump was. The tree was a sweet gum tree that left a 40” diameter stump that had roots on the surface out to a diameter of 20’. Some of these roots were as much as 10” in diameter. I talked to a professional stump grinder and he quoted I think it was $200 and he wouldn’t do the roots. I would have never been able to run a tiller through the roots so I couldn’t find another solution other than to buy a grinder and do it myself.
While looking at the 2 types of grinders you show here I knew that I wanted to till so I needed the stump and roots gone below ground as well as above ground. I looked at the 1P24 and just couldn’t see it going very deep in the ground to be able to get it all out so I bought a swing type. I’m glad I did because I ended up with a hole about 20’ in diameter by 4 feet deep getting the tap root out. Funny, I was down to what looked about 6” in diameter of the root so I turned the tractor around try the bucket to get it out. I stuck the bucket in the side and when I curled it the tap root shot up about 3 feet in the air. I backed out of the hole and saw the huge mound of dirt I had made and panicked. I didn’t think I could get it back in the hole. The mound was higher than the tractor. Funny how you can do that with a loader. Well I got the dirt back in the hole and all smoothed out. It took me about 8 hours the get that one stump and roots all out but it’s like it was never there now.
Interesting. In my opinion, the 1P24 will cut to the same depth as swing type.
I coulda cut those roots :-)
The 3P24 might cut to the same depth but I didn’t buy one. I bought an Erskin sold by Quick Attach. 😁
Great timing, I have 3 stump grinding jobs this weekend.
I’m getting a grinder and trailer for $225 for the weekend.
Every time I watch one of your stump grinding video I look at them on the website and say one day I will get finance committee approval and get me one what a great tool
We had a couple of stumps grinded lately, the guy used a machine I have never seen before, it was drove and operated by remote control. Pretty awesome
I think the cheapest I looked at here like that was $32K . The little PTO grinder was $2700 here and is a brilliant unit. Even my tree guy was Impressed when he saw it and said it would be worth him buying a tractor to run it and the other things he could do with it as well.
Yesterday I rented a john deere 3038e to till my garden up and thought about you guys lol. I'm gonna keep working twords doing the same stuff you guys are doing. Thank you guys for all your helpful information!
I find with my Kubota, turning around to the left is easier to use the treadle peddle. its easy to reach behind you to operate the 3 point. Seems kind of backwards, I know, but it works pretty good.
Nice comparison. Good cost review and job pricing information. Thanks for explaining how much you charge for this particular job. This is not often divulged.
The pedal on the Kubota kept me from considering it when I purchased a tractor last year as hydrostatic tractors was all that was available locally during covid.
Morning Tim. Thanks for taking the time to share helpful information while you work. I always pick up a few gems while watching your videos. The treadle pedal - hmmm.. I know what you mean about lifting your foot. I don't mind it - there a few times that it is challenging but generally, I like that it requires a direct and deliberate action to change directions but then again, I have never had a tractor with separate pedals. Thanks for sharing your thoughts as always. Have a great and safe week out there!
Thanks for your comment, Gord.
I certainly don’t mean to be disrespectful about the pedal. ...but it makes no sense to me. Lifting my entire leg to switch directions is exhausting. If I wanted exercise, I would do the work by hand :-). Just kidding of course.
In my car, I only move my toe to go from brake to accelerator. No one seems to think THAT is unsafe. ...and it is definitely comfortable.
Just my opinion.
@@TractorTimewithTim I think the idea of the treadle pedal is that you rest your whole foot on it and then just rock your foot forward or back to change direction, similar to a "heel-toe" shifter on my motorcycle, no? Of course that wouldn't work for what you were doing in this video. I've never owned/used one, so I don't really know.
LOL! Not disrespectful at all Tim - just your honest thoughts. all good. :) Be well and talk again soon!
Thank you Tim for showing both grinders. Great video. I'm looking hard at getting the 1P24 for my 1025R. Thanks for sharing.
Very Nice attachment! You’ll love it!
I have the same one on My 1025R and it works brilliantly. You won't regret it. Just be sure to check the PTO shaft length as mine was a little long but was easy to take apart and trim.
Glad to see you finally got someone to join in at the closing "We'll see you next time on..." Seems like that's been a little challenging the last few videos! 😉 👍👍 Great content, thanks!
I just order a 1p24 from your green tractor dealer and it's getting delivered tomorrow!!! Best price I could find with the discount and delivered right to my door! Do I need to be present for the delivery or can they just leave it in front of my garage?
I suspect you will need to be there. Not sure. The carrier should call you.
...and...Congratulations!!
@@TractorTimewithTim thx!!!
@@TractorTimewithTim talked to them today. No signature required and no need to be home for anyone wondering.
11:26 indeed, boxelder trees are a type of maple
In manitoba box elder trees grow like weeds they are more commonly know as manitoba maple. They grow everywhere
Steve: "I think my son could use a 1025." Christie: "I think so, just about everybody could." - truer words never spoken !!
Several points, Deere NOT using their own engine, is the hydraulic drive also yanmar❓ Engine is the heart of machine, so the yanmar brand tractor is yanmar powertrain.(Does any mfg produce 100% own content?)
Several others use the yanmar power plant. So how does Deere justify the inflated cost❓ Believe there is parity among major mfg. concerning reliability.
Kubota is over priced as well but folks buy the 0 %% interest gimick. Green & orange kool-aid are not the only attractive flavors to consider. So why do I own those colors❓ Failed to follow my own advice.
Good video, can you make a ceramic coating video for tractor protection? Thanks Shawn
we charged $150 phr with a 4 hr minimum . that included travel time to the job.
We have the Woodland Mills stump grinder. You are correct this not hard work for the operator it can be hard on the the tractor. You have to have patience when stump grinding.
Yep. Takes some time and patience!
I’ve owned 2 John Deere compact tractors, a Yanmar, and 2 Kubotas and I’ve found the treadle pedal to be slightly better for me most of the time over the two separate pedals. Honestly neither has ever bothered me much, I’d pretty much call it a wash… you get use to what you get use to.
Man I really need to get a tractor! I really think I could find enough side jobs to pay the payments. Thanks for sharing. Really enjoy watching.👍🏻👍🏻
I wonder if a different style treadle pedal would work better. I had a B3350 that had a similar one to your Lx3310. I found it okay but I really love the pedal on my new L4760. You can use your heel for reverse, but it is easier to step on it.
I like the Grand L pedal better too.
I would assume that if you just plan on having yard grinding the stump is the best .. The question i have is If i was going to garden in the area it would be best to dig them out? I assume they dont grind them far enough down to till over it one day.
dig them out if you plan to garden.
Travel speed specs I found were Kubota LX3310 top forward speed 13.6 MPH. John Deere 2038r top speed 15.4 MPH.
We couldn’t find he Deere number...or we woulda listed it. Sorry.
@@TractorTimewithTim I had to dig for the Deere number.
Good Morning Tractor Time with Tim. When I was in high school I used a Kubota tractor it was hard on my hip other then that it was a nice little tractor.
Ok
great video. Just rented a nice stump grinder locally and it was around 300 dollars for the day. I was considering upgrading to the cabbed version of the kubota but after using my uncles mahindra I realized I just cant but a tractor with the heel-toe foot controls.
I just ordered the 1p24 with the ttwt code. Thanks i'm excited to try it out.
Congratulations!
Thanks Tim...I enjoyed it...trying to decide on a Stump grinder...
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Nothing like a good tracktering
Here’s a down side to rental you didn’t mention. I had to go through 3 grinders to get one that actually worked well. The first one didn’t grind, the second stopped driving and took over 2 hours on one 22” maple stump. With a good one those were under 30 minutes.
If I can fill a couple more weekends I’ll be looking at a 1p24. I honestly considered just getting one now after the second pile of junk.
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Hi Tim, I agree with you on that treadle pedal seems un-natural. I have the BX2380 and i like it's style of treadle pedal and was used to it within an hour of using it.
I would love kubota to make it an option for treadle pedal vs 2 pedals.... kubota always says treadle is better.... I don't like it either, and why else is EVERY other brand using 2 pedals.... john deere and there jdqa vs ssqa is kubota and the treadle pedal lol
If you had been given the kubota tractor free of charge, (ex:your Pa. Buddy) you would find the treadle pedal much easier to digest. But w/ kubota usage terms, complains not allowed. In that fellow's early videos, he owned a kubota. He did a video comparison between RK & his, AND his main complaint was the treadle pedal.
Fast forward, he received FREE kubota tractors, & in a review, he now loves the treadle.
Some channels are simply influenced by the sponsor, & honest reviews can be skewed. I own a kubota (treadle) & both NH + Deere (2 pedal) & don't mind the treadle EXCEPT when reversing w/ an implement very short distance or tight quarters . Works ok, wide open spaces.
Well, I can’t see myself stating something in a video that I do not believe. ...for any price.
Sorry if you do not believe me, but my character is important to me.
@@TractorTimewithTim You misunderstood, your character is not challenged. I was pointing out that another you tube channel, in accepting free equipment, was not sincere in their product evaluation
Got it. Thx.
Tim I just got my LX3310HSTC I traded in my B2601 I love both machines. the stump grinder and brush chipper are implements still on my list. I retire in two years and am putting all my toys together before that date. Keep the vids coming
Congratulations!
Dont know if the B2601 tread-all pedal is the same as your L series but take a look under there and if the same there is a shaft encased in a tube with no way to grease. Try drilling, tapping then installing three zert fittings, one on each end of the tube and one in the middle. Grease the heck out of it and i bet it will be less fatiguing on the toe.
This tread-all pedal is really the only achilles heel to these kubotas. When you start to anticipate then dread to back up it is time for a design change, dont you think?
Hey Tim: Great comparison video. I’ve got a B2320. It’s gear driven not hydraulic. So not sure which is the best. The one that drives fwd and back appears to be what I can use as long as my 1st gear in low is slow enough. Plays as you mentioned it less expensive.
Unfortunately, the 1P24 won’t work well with gear drive. You’ll need the 3P24...assuming your 3 pt will lift it.
One other thing I use my 1P for is cutting Drainage ditches and cleaning them out. Does a great neat Job. Dirt is a lot softer than the wood I grind and unless the rocks are big it tends to just spit them out of the soil.
1p still has storage pin in? Didn't see it tilt at all.
Yep. I have been running with the ‘pin in’. I like the performance this way. Manufacturer is not happy with me, but hey!!!
@@TractorTimewithTim Now I have to try it :)
Be careful. Taking some risk.
@@TractorTimewithTim interesting. Only time I've used mt 1p24 with the pin in is when I forgot to take it out. I suppose you wouldn't have to worry about the angle of the pto shaft becoming too great with the pin in.
When I borrowed the MV50 behind the 5320 from the farm to take out some stumps for myself and my neighbor, we had a much longer time than that! 5 of the stumps we did at my neighbor's house were dry but non-rotten Ash, and they were 2.5-4ft diameter at the bases. It was literally an all day thing. I'm not hurt about it because he used his bucket truck to piece down a tree that I didn't have a safe direction to drop and he helped me replace my 6ft fence, but it was a ton of time/work! Even with that tractor and grinder, you could only take 1/2" or so per swipe on those stumps. My pine stump was like 5 minutes, though.
I have the LandPride stump grinder(looks like the 3P24, so probably the same manufacturer)when I got It I didn;t have a tractor with dual rear hydraulics, so I had a guy put a basic 2 lever loader valve on it; No I can run it standing on the right side of the tractor.
I think your supposed to start on the other side with the 1p start on the right and work left
We had some trees taken down and the guy who grinded the stumps charged $500 for 6 stumps. He had a Rayco that was remote controlled and was in and out within 45 minutes. I'm in Georgia and I'm wondering if I paid too much.
Looks like a great attachment to have for someone with a small tractor business. I imagine it would pay for itself pretty quick if you had enough jobs lined up
is there a wide angle PTO on the long stump grinder ? i noticed it a bit rattlely when its at a tighter angle the hardy spicers wont last to long if there isnt a wide angle PTO
Why didn't you use Vinny and the stump grinder on it?
Only had 2 drivers :-)
@@TractorTimewithTim that stinks
Thanks. It's helpful to get a glimpse into the pricing for this kind of work. I don't operate as a business, but I may want to in the future.
Hey Tim those are some nice pieces of machinery both the tractors and the stump grinders
Tim we use the clutch pedal at my house, works wonders if you know how to use it
Like to hear about pricing for the job. Thanks for your videos and information.
Tim, would you rather use the Ventrac or the tractor for stump grinding?
I dunno. Advantages to both.
nice job and great to get a second opinion
those parts to replace turnbuckles are called swaybars, messiks has a install video : ua-cam.com/video/9md2KEmNGbM/v-deo.html , and even sell them for BX series ua-cam.com/video/aOjXJV88fEc/v-deo.html .
Nice job on the video, thanks.
Any idea why Kubota uses the treadle-pedal rather than the two-pedal setup? Some people may prefer it but most comments seem negative. It seems like such a simple thing to offer the option. Perhaps there's a reason that I don't understand? I would also like to hear from one of its fans as to why they prefer the TP. I have heard some say that it's just a matter of adapting and I don't see it as a real deal-breaker, but I don't think I would like it personally. Would love to hear some pros and cons of both setups.
In my area of mn, every tree company has a grinder and its a race to the bottom for price to grind stumps. Most are $50-60 per stump. Too much competition not enough profit to invest in my own grinder
I wish you would've recorded yourselves going down the road.
I want to add that shop green tractor was great to work with.
Shopgreendealer.con :-)
Great video
Just curious
About what is the price difference between the two grinders
Smaller one is roughly $3k, larger one $7k or so…not sure now with inflation.
That treadle peddle Kubota went to looks awkward. My old L3600 has a GST transmission that i love. I think JD has the better solution right now but I still prefer the old GST to even that.
Hi! Great video! I’m looking at getting an LX3310 and a stump grinder down the road possibly. You mentioned in the video that the 3P24 stump grinder should work with the LX3310. However my local Kubota dealer salesperson is insisting that the LX3310 doesn’t have enough hydraulic to move the implement. Do you think there is any truth to this or is he just trying to make me buy a bigger tractor (which is out of the question)? It would be great if you could do a video demonstration of the 3P24 on the LX3310. Thanks!
Well, you would need the 2 rear SCV kit. other than that...and assuming your dealer gets the right couplers, you should be fine.
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I really enjoyed the video and wanted to say I totally agree with you about the Kubota pedal. The pedal is the only thing I dislike about my B2650, after having 2 tractors with twin pedals, I can not get comfortable with the treadle pedal. It might be the fact that I am "less flexible" as I age, but I wish Kubota would offer a kit to convert to two pedals , I think it would be something that they could do easily enough.
That stump at the 14:00 mark was box elder. You could tell by the red coloring in it. You could probably also smell it. Good video.
On the 1P24 you are grinding on the wrong side of the grinder aren't you? pretty sure the manual tells you to cut from the other side and it wont bounce around as much and cut better
Good morning! We would love one of these one day! Such an awesome machine!
Google tell you to make this video? I have been looking at stump grinder options for the last 60 days!
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@@TractorTimewithTim went on site to see price and availability, upon checkout did not see a place to enter a promo code. Maybe they don't discount these units?
There is a place to enter code! If you have issue, call them!
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I have a B2601 and hate that pedal also
Stump grinding in my area is $100 for first stump and $25each additional stump.
Cheap.
Hey do they make a mini mulcher for a mini ex
Yes.
Would love to see one
Bring one down to mobile AL........
The best solution I’ve found to the treadle pedal is called twin touch pedals.
May I suggest a video for 1025R suspension seat options for us old guys. Thanks
BoltOnHooks.com has slightly stronger springs. I’ve investigated other options, but this is all I have right now.
Being my own finance committee, I either stop watching your videos or I go bankrupt... The 1p24 is at the top of my wanted list and this video just made it that much harder to say no to! I only have four stumps I want out, so unless I start renting myself/equipment out I have no real need to own that thing, but it does look like allot of fun to have around.
...and you can help friends and neighbors!
Do you have a video on the hydraulic setup. What type of joy sticks are you using?
The 1P24 (on the Kubota) requires no additional hydraulics.
The 3P24 (on the Deere) requires two hydraulic remote outlets. We are using the factory option for those.
Have you had to replace the teeth yet on that 1p24? I've done about 65 stumps and I think it's time the outer teeth get replaced.
I have not.
I have done a lot of stumps and hit endless rocks on mine and the teeth are still Great. Thought I would have to replace or sharpen them by now but I haven't found one that wasn't sharp or had a chip in it. I don't think the wood wears them much at all. It's everything else they weren't designed for that probably causes the most wear.
@@glumpy10 my teeth definitely have some chunks taken out of them from who knows what. It still grinds, but not as good as Tim's does in the video.
Great video! I’ve been trying to decide to save up for the 3310 or save some money and get a 2610. This is the only thing I’m worried about the 2610 not being to handle is stump grinding. Do you think the 2610 has enough PTO HP to run a stump grinder like the 1P24 efficiently? I know HP range wise, it can, but is it too much for the 2610?
Honestly, consider the 2032r. Not impressed with the LX.
The 1P24, while sized right, would be hard to use with a mechanical drive (older) tractor. You could never find a good fit between PTO rpm and wheel speed.
Correct! Forgot to mention that in this episode! Hydrostatic drive required for 1P24.
Great video!
I’d like to see you compare a tiller to a box blade and see what kind of job they’d do on a yard like ours...
What are you doing to your yard?
@@TractorTimewithTim raising and leveling
Where are you located?
@@TractorTimewithTim I’m local , if you watch my most recent video you’ll see my yard and probably recognize it. We live on the “main drag”, north of the hospital.
Way too to slow . Hire a real stump grinder . I’d have those stumps done in 30 min tops with my rg 55
i have a Orange treadle pedal and long legs and am comfortable with my toe underneath ...i cannot 'rock' my foot on the top of the pedal for any length of time.
how does these compare to the Ventrac Stump grinder
Regular transmission with creeper gear work?
It might!
Just wondering about camera, would it work if the camera was on tripod with wireless?
I fund that there is an area if you lean over where you can see the blade directly on the stump. Only a small window and you sit pretty cocked one side but not uncomfortable and helps you get used to the machine. Once you do the first half dozen you can do it by feel and intuition 80% of the time anyway.
Tim. I bought a brand new JD 3033R in 2016 ....I have a 3rd function, is that all I need for the 3P24....or do I need add another ?
TIA !
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You need two rear remotes. One off up down, one for left-right. Sounds like you have only one. Do you have a backhoe?
@@TractorTimewithTim No..and I'm sure adding another " function valve" ain't cheap...I don't think back Hoe's are worth the time ,effort (And money ) !
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Sounds like the 1P24 for you!
@@TractorTimewithTimI was thinking the same thing...ok , Thanks Tim !
How often do you have to sharpen the teeth on them
Not sure. I haven't done so. Not sure they can be sharpened. They are carbide.
Tim, you start to grind the wrong side of the trump. Your chip guard have to be on top of the stump.!!!!! It will be smooter easer and faster !!!
Everyone has their own technique on how they do things
If I start on the other side, I will have a pile of chips on the stump...harder to see what is left.
Dirt Perfect pointed this out when he used it on our property! Good thinking now his part!
@@tj1lincoln182 Your right but I've got over 1k stump already done with my woodland and its the easiest way to to it !
Here's my opinion on the treadle peddle vs. left/right peddles. I used to operate a John Deere front mount mower for the local school corporation. It had the two peddle system- left forward, right reverse. I found out the hard way that that is a dangerous system and here is why. We are so used to driving a car with auto transmission where you press the right pedal (accelerator) to go forward and the left pedal (brake)to stop. All these two pedal manufacturers have it opposite. So in an emergency situation where you have to stop quickly you instinctively jump your foot to the left pedal to stop, thinking its the brake. More than once I had to stop quickly to avoid going into a shallow rip-rap filled ditch bank but ended up landing the front mount mower deck on the rocks. I was fortunate other times not to end up in deep drainage ditches. The peddles should be mounted right for forward and left for stop/reverse.
I liked the front deck idea so I purchased a Kubota front mount F2690 for my own properties with the treadle peddle. I too thought it was a little quirky until I read a forum on how to use it and why it's designed the way it is. You're not supposed to keep both your heel and toe on top of the peddle constantly. Its "C"-shaped fir a reason. You're supposed to constantly keep your heel on the rear portion of the peddle. Your toe should be on top of the forward portion only when going forward. When you wish to reverse, pivot your foot right with the heel still on the rear, then pivot your foot left and stick your toe UNDER the front of the peddle and lift your toe to reverse. It's
SO much more comfortable this way and so much safer than the two peddle system. I wish Kubota would instruct new, unfamiliar owners in this. Nearly everyone wants to criticize because they keep their heel and toe above the front and rear of the peddle all the time. It's "C" shaped for a reason. Kubota would have made it a straight flat plate otherwise had they not meant for the inside of that "C" for your shoe when you pivot.
I see your point on the ‘backwards’ aspect of the twin touch . However, using my toe ‘upwards’ to go backwards is totally uncomfortable. Horrible solution IMO!
I did not like the treadle pedal on my BX23, traded my Kabota for a 1025R and feel the JD is a better tractor.
Treadle pedal alone knocked Kubota off my list. I don't see how anyone could prefer that design. I understand once you get used to it but right from the start it turns me off. There is no getting used to it if you reject it.
Hi Tim, do you find anymore wear and tear on the tractor with the 1p24? I have a 2021 1025r and looking to get the 1p24. Thanks
I have not noticed anything. It does shake the tractor some. Getting Rimguard in tires and wheel weights helps.
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I'm about to pull the trigger on one. I have a small lawn care business and I'm looking to get into the stump grinding thing. Is there any limitations you've noticed regarding stump sizes? Is there a max size you're able to grind have you noticed? I greatly appreciate your time Tim!
@@tfeoutdoors I owned one for a year, best thing I can tell you is to go very slow. Read the manual, U need to grind right too left, not left to right, that’s why the tractor shakes more. 36” stump is about what U can do, and having a “quick attach” gives even a little more room