I love that passage (s) for a few reasons 1- the part abt the dark side is super cool 2- the whole thing put together basically describes the entire 6 episode saga
“There is selfless love, and there is selfish love. There’s love that’s about you, and there’s love that’s about how *I* feel about you, and Anakin fails to make that distinction”. Man, that’s powerful.
"How can one win a war against the dark when the war itself was the dark's own weapon?" There is no piece of Star Wars media better than the masterpiece that is the ROTS novelisation.
this is my favourite book of all time, I have had to buy several copies over the years because I have read the story so many times that the front and back pages eventually fall off and I have to replace it. Amazing story taken to another level by Mathew Stover. After reading it enough times and although I will always love the movie; the movie basically just skims the story line and provides images to help you imagine the book better. THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS BOOK, I AM ETERNALLY GREATFUL!!
Damn, this book has some disturbing descriptions. From Neimodian heads being smashed into their computers and the book describing the corpse to Anakin stabbing a Separtist in the heart and carving his other two hearts out. It's disturbing.... but it's awesome.
It's not that Anakin didn't have selfless love, he demonstrated it in AOTC when he did his duty after Padme fell off the ship because that is what she would have done. But, Sidious offered him the option of never having to choose, he could save her and the galaxy. Because of that, he started focusing inwards, like Sith do, because he was the was the one who was going to save them, and his desires aligned with their welfare, so it was okay for him to be selfish. Only he realised the difference after Padme died because he was only thinking about himself. That's why he was able to make a selfless decision with Luke.
The prequel trilogy is meant to serve as a cautionary tale with the point being that you shouldn't be like Anakin regardless of harsh circumstances and inevitabilities of life. We cannot control everything that happens to us, but we can control how we react. The character himself knew deep down what he was doing was wrong: "What have I done?" at the beginning of his descent and "it's too late for me" at the end. Those are not the words of someone who truly views their actions as justified or sees themselves as a victim. One instance of Anakin putting his duty before his desires does not invalidate the point Stover is making. Besides in the scene you're talking about Anakin demands the craft's pilot to stop and pick her up. He only begrudgingly comes to his senses after Obi-Wan has to explain to him the mission at hand. In Episode 3 we see what happens when this individual is left to his own devices. The instant he realized Padme was not buying into his nonsense and she made it known she was finished with him, you saw his true intentions. If he could not have her no one would.
This novelization is a must-read. First he was my favorite Star Wars author. Then I read his original work - and he's one of my favorite authors, period.
I just finished this book and it was amazing. I really liked that it had emotional depth of each character and explains situations with more detail. It also has some scenes which are not in the movie that added more to the story and how difficult was the situation anakin was in. Also, it was genius the way that character perspectives changed throughout the story. And it explored more the relationships between anakin and padme and palpatine and obi wan
One of my all time favorite books. I know ROTS is a film. Film is Film. Books are Books. Different creative mediums to engage with that have different results. Purely as a book, this is the most compelling book I return to often. His respect for the material, integrity, and focus on letting the psychology/perspective of the characters (not just Anakin as is the focus of the film) you get a 360 degree perspective of all the characters which heightens the enjoyment of ROTS story and dramatic function.
This man is a genius, he wrote all the best Star Wars novels, i highly recommend his work, even the short stories like The Tenebrous Way are mind-blowing.
Such nostalgia!!!! I got this book before the film even came out, and I read it at any possible time. It's so fantastic. You know how sometimes you go back to your favorite scene in a movie to watch it? Well I do that quite often with my favorite sceneS from this book. Amazing, amazing, amazing.
I really loved this book, especially the dueling scene with Anakin and Obi-Wan vs. Dooku. They made Dooku look like a fool lol. I also really liked the "The Dark is generous" lines. It shows that the Dark Side is only acting as it will. It may be negative at times, but that's how it is and it shows that it plays its part in the Star Wars universe.
I have to say, as a person just beginning to get into legends expanded universe, Matthew Stover is a phenomenal writer. He is definitely a master at capturing the characters internal pyschologies, motivations, emotions etc. I feel he gets right at the heart of the narrative for what it was and executes it at the highest standard possible. What makes this better than the ROTS movie is that Stover takes the concepts that Lucas wanted to display and illustrates them in his novel better than Lucas ever could. The transition of Anakin Skywalker, the hero of the clone wars, to Darth Vader, the most feared being in the galaxy, was great. It was a gradual transition where you begin to understand why he makes certain choices and how the actions he's done leads to the monster he eventually became. The description of the Republic and the Jedi as moral peacekeepers whose flaws eventually led to their downfall was amazing. We understand how the republic was now corrupted to the point that it paved way for the empire and how a democratic system, if unchecked, can eventually lead to an autocratic empire held by a totalitarian ruler. You understand why the Jedi lost and how the Sith were able to get their revenge. Mace, Obi Wan, Yoda desperately attempt to save the Republic, save civilization but they fail. But hey have failed from the beginning, the Sith had changed and Stover artfully presents this to us. This is the book I'd reccomend to anyone insterested in the Expanded Universe. IT IS UNDOUBTEDlY A MASTERPIECE. There is still too much I haven't even mentioned that the book does perfectly. If you haven't read it, READ IT. It will not be a mistake.
The book came out a month before the movie. I bought it the first day it was released, immediately took it home and read the entire thing nonstop until 7 o'clock the next morning (ended up getting sick from lack of sleep). When I finally saw the movie, it was... well, let's say it was akin to "wham bam, thank you, ma'am". The movie just felt rushed. I think one of my most favorite parts of the book is when Palpatine's face was half covered in shadow, giving us a visual representation of the two-faced villain he was, as he revealed to Anakin that it was he who murdered Darth Plageuis in his sleep. That could have been a terrifying, sinister, ominous scene. I wish it had been in the movie.
I couldn't agree more, revenge of the sith is one of the best star wars books period and Stover has an uncommon mastery of the SW universe. Jude Watson's Jedi Apprentice series is close or equal
a dragon called dread that lives in a dying star. "everything in this universe dies" i had that same existential dread back in 2005 when the film came out. i wish i read this book then.
GREAT Book! Easily one of my favorite Star Wars books ever. It fixed all the bad dialogues and logic from the film and made a natural, consistent story. Plus the best take on the birth of Darth Vader, hands down!
If you enjoyed this book and Matt's other STAR WARS novels, I urge you to give his own work a try. The ACTS OF CAINE series is excellent, one of the best SF/Fantasy series of the past 20 years. The books are HEROES DIE, BLADE OF TYSHALLE, CAINE BLACK KNIFE and CAINE'S LAW.
I tried reading this book when I was 12, a few years after the movie came out. Make no mistake: THIS NOVEL IS MADE FOR AN ADULT AUDIENCE. Not for mature content. Because it's complex and internalized, and that can be challenging for a kid to understand.
@Altairograph Totally! A lot of the dialogue should have been kept in, the film was only two hours. Keeping the dialogue wouldn't have made it too long.
that was a really good book! i read it at school. i cant get the part were saesee and kit r beheaded out of my mind tho. and he didnt go thru the jedis deaths like plo koons
If you want the real story of Han and Leia's children, you should dig into the Legends Expanded Universe continuity, beginning with Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command, (collectively known as the original Thrawn Trilogy) written by Timothy Zahn in the early 1990s, which includes the birth of their twins Jacen and Jaina Solo, and continue on from there. Those stories are far better written than the new continuity (save for a couple of stand-alone books like Heir to the Jedi, which is set between Episodes IV: A New Hope and V: The Empire Strikes Back).
Anakin turned evil beacons he love Padma so mach.But Kylo Ren was just a carbora cut out who is evil bacons he has daddy issues and he who can't get a girl friend.Mathew Stover 10/10Jar Jar Abrems 1/10
The book 100000% crushed that weak and kiddie movie. The book made you BELIEVE and understand how and why anakin turned through the manipulation of sidious. Constantly stressed, constantly worried, constantly being pulled back and forth between a good and evil that was so unclearly defined to anakin. This book brought you on an emotional journey as opposed to that lame movie which featured horrible acting, a wooden script, and looked more like a cartoon. Matthew.. Please re write the rest of th
Everyone is saying one of the best Star Wars books ever written, it's more, it's one of the best BOOKS ever written. Period. And I'm a Jar-Jar bashing prequel hater!
Tbh I always felt the Star Wars movies sucked and were overrated but my god the STORY and the lore are fucking amazing. Anakin is easily one of the best characters in fiction. This is like white people’s One Piece
"Love is more then a candle. Love can ignite the stars." My god...
than*
@1 1 I am glad and respect you for the fact that you had the decency to reply back.
@1 1 Yes. 🙂
Love can ignite the death stars.
I love that passage (s) for a few reasons
1- the part abt the dark side is super cool
2- the whole thing put together basically describes the entire 6 episode saga
“There is selfless love, and there is selfish love. There’s love that’s about you, and there’s love that’s about how *I* feel about you, and Anakin fails to make that distinction”.
Man, that’s powerful.
"How can one win a war against the dark when the war itself was the dark's own weapon?"
There is no piece of Star Wars media better than the masterpiece that is the ROTS novelisation.
I have nothing but respect for Stover.
this is my favourite book of all time, I have had to buy several copies over the years because I have read the story so many times that the front and back pages eventually fall off and I have to replace it. Amazing story taken to another level by Mathew Stover. After reading it enough times and although I will always love the movie; the movie basically just skims the story line and provides images to help you imagine the book better. THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS BOOK, I AM ETERNALLY GREATFUL!!
Damn, this book has some disturbing descriptions. From Neimodian heads being smashed into their computers and the book describing the corpse to Anakin stabbing a Separtist in the heart and carving his other two hearts out. It's disturbing.... but it's awesome.
TheGCritic I'm kind of surprised Stover didn't describe Anakin burning more vividly
It's not that Anakin didn't have selfless love, he demonstrated it in AOTC when he did his duty after Padme fell off the ship because that is what she would have done. But, Sidious offered him the option of never having to choose, he could save her and the galaxy. Because of that, he started focusing inwards, like Sith do, because he was the was the one who was going to save them, and his desires aligned with their welfare, so it was okay for him to be selfish. Only he realised the difference after Padme died because he was only thinking about himself. That's why he was able to make a selfless decision with Luke.
True.
The prequel trilogy is meant to serve as a cautionary tale with the point being that you shouldn't be like Anakin regardless of harsh circumstances and inevitabilities of life. We cannot control everything that happens to us, but we can control how we react. The character himself knew deep down what he was doing was wrong: "What have I done?" at the beginning of his descent and "it's too late for me" at the end. Those are not the words of someone who truly views their actions as justified or sees themselves as a victim.
One instance of Anakin putting his duty before his desires does not invalidate the point Stover is making. Besides in the scene you're talking about Anakin demands the craft's pilot to stop and pick her up. He only begrudgingly comes to his senses after Obi-Wan has to explain to him the mission at hand. In Episode 3 we see what happens when this individual is left to his own devices. The instant he realized Padme was not buying into his nonsense and she made it known she was finished with him, you saw his true intentions. If he could not have her no one would.
Anyone seeing this in their recommended after watching the Theory Stream?
Yes lol
Yes
me too. i just got to the part of the audiobook where mace take a fall from the windu. it's a great read.
Yes me
Yep.
Matt is the best SW author ever
Along with Timothy Zahn
James Luceno....? Plagueis..?
Yeah, though I haven't read Plagueis yet,I've heard many good opinions about it, so yes, Luceno also counts.
@@DirtyHarryFan88 Luceno is too nerdy.
What's wrong with being nerdy?
This novelization is a must-read. First he was my favorite Star Wars author. Then I read his original work - and he's one of my favorite authors, period.
“Couldn’t they have given the order before I gave him back the bloody lightsaber!?”
I just finished this book and it was amazing. I really liked that it had emotional depth of each character and explains situations with more detail. It also has some scenes which are not in the movie that added more to the story and how difficult was the situation anakin was in. Also, it was genius the way that character perspectives changed throughout the story. And it explored more the relationships between anakin and padme and palpatine and obi wan
One of my all time favorite books. I know ROTS is a film. Film is Film. Books are Books. Different creative mediums to engage with that have different results. Purely as a book, this is the most compelling book I return to often. His respect for the material, integrity, and focus on letting the psychology/perspective of the characters (not just Anakin as is the focus of the film) you get a 360 degree perspective of all the characters which heightens the enjoyment of ROTS story and dramatic function.
"Dark is generous"
Great book
Here from Theory stream
Yessir
Me too.
This man is a genius, he wrote all the best Star Wars novels, i highly recommend his work, even the short stories like The Tenebrous Way are mind-blowing.
Such nostalgia!!!! I got this book before the film even came out, and I read it at any possible time. It's so fantastic. You know how sometimes you go back to your favorite scene in a movie to watch it? Well I do that quite often with my favorite sceneS from this book. Amazing, amazing, amazing.
I have a signed copy of this book.
I wish I could get the actors back together and do some re-shoots to make it more like the novel. That would be cool as hell.
SUCH a good book! Its incredibly compelling and satisfying to read
He’s the best Star Wars author. That book is just perfect
I really loved this book, especially the dueling scene with Anakin and Obi-Wan vs. Dooku. They made Dooku look like a fool lol. I also really liked the "The Dark is generous" lines. It shows that the Dark Side is only acting as it will. It may be negative at times, but that's how it is and it shows that it plays its part in the Star Wars universe.
I have to say, as a person just beginning to get into legends expanded universe, Matthew Stover is a phenomenal writer. He is definitely a master at capturing the characters internal pyschologies, motivations, emotions etc. I feel he gets right at the heart of the narrative for what it was and executes it at the highest standard possible.
What makes this better than the ROTS movie is that Stover takes the concepts that Lucas wanted to display and illustrates them in his novel better than Lucas ever could. The transition of Anakin Skywalker, the hero of the clone wars, to Darth Vader, the most feared being in the galaxy, was great. It was a gradual transition where you begin to understand why he makes certain choices and how the actions he's done leads to the monster he eventually became.
The description of the Republic and the Jedi as moral peacekeepers whose flaws eventually led to their downfall was amazing. We understand how the republic was now corrupted to the point that it paved way for the empire and how a democratic system, if unchecked, can eventually lead to an autocratic empire held by a totalitarian ruler. You understand why the Jedi lost and how the Sith were able to get their revenge.
Mace, Obi Wan, Yoda desperately attempt to save the Republic, save civilization but they fail. But hey have failed from the beginning, the Sith had changed and Stover artfully presents this to us. This is the book I'd reccomend to anyone insterested in the Expanded Universe. IT IS UNDOUBTEDlY A MASTERPIECE.
There is still too much I haven't even mentioned that the book does perfectly. If you haven't read it, READ IT. It will not be a mistake.
The book came out a month before the movie. I bought it the first day it was released, immediately took it home and read the entire thing nonstop until 7 o'clock the next morning (ended up getting sick from lack of sleep). When I finally saw the movie, it was... well, let's say it was akin to "wham bam, thank you, ma'am". The movie just felt rushed.
I think one of my most favorite parts of the book is when Palpatine's face was half covered in shadow, giving us a visual representation of the two-faced villain he was, as he revealed to Anakin that it was he who murdered Darth Plageuis in his sleep. That could have been a terrifying, sinister, ominous scene. I wish it had been in the movie.
Recommended to me today, 14 years later. Thanks algorithm. You get a like for a book I’ve listened to at least 11 times.
He's like the John Wick of second-person narrative. Thats crazy. And it really inspired me.
Just finished this book. Absolutely incredible!!
exactly. 5 years on and this book and its philosophies are still teaching me things.
I couldn't agree more, revenge of the sith is one of the best star wars books period and Stover has an uncommon mastery of the SW universe. Jude Watson's Jedi Apprentice series is close or equal
True.
Gunther interviewing an amazing Star Wars author lol
This book is awesome Mat should be proud of it
Masterful book. I hope he got some award for it.
Such an excellent book. I had no idea a novelization would ever be this good.
Rip gunther
One of the best Star Wars books ever written!
I read the novel and literally couldn't put it down. I read the whole thing in a day cos it was just so good!
I'm reading this book for the second time and it is still such a feels trip
a dragon called dread that lives in a dying star. "everything in this universe dies"
i had that same existential dread back in 2005 when the film came out. i wish i read this book then.
Because his style of writing is superior to those who've penned previous novels
True.
GREAT Book! Easily one of my favorite Star Wars books ever. It fixed all the bad dialogues and logic from the film and made a natural, consistent story. Plus the best take on the birth of Darth Vader, hands down!
Please for the love of God let Matthew Stover write the novelization of Episode IX!!
I've read the Revenge of the Sith novelization from the library at School
Back when star wars was star wars
This was a fantastic book. I definitely found it more enjoyable than the movie, and I enjoyed the movie.
I very like Matthew stover because of what he extended in the movie and who stop thing like that if you have read the book so awesome
If you enjoyed this book and Matt's other STAR WARS novels, I urge you to give his own work a try. The ACTS OF CAINE series is excellent, one of the best SF/Fantasy series of the past 20 years. The books are HEROES DIE, BLADE OF TYSHALLE, CAINE BLACK KNIFE and CAINE'S LAW.
I love each and every one of them !!
Ray: Ben will love this book on his grandpoue, I know what I'm getting him for his bethday.
You mean Jaina: to Jacen.
Who’s here from Star Wars Theory 👀
You know it
The Forces Awakens was just fanfichin made into a movie, but this was a master pace.
Fantastic novel
Oh hey, it's Gunther!
The novel is actually better then the movie in some regards.
I tried reading this book when I was 12, a few years after the movie came out.
Make no mistake: THIS NOVEL IS MADE FOR AN ADULT AUDIENCE. Not for mature content. Because it's complex and internalized, and that can be challenging for a kid to understand.
Selfless love = the love you feel towards your child
Selfish love = the kind of love you get from your partner/spouse
This book is far superior to the movie... and I like the movie.
exactly, people really need to stop bandwagoning.
@Altairograph Totally! A lot of the dialogue should have been kept in, the film was only two hours. Keeping the dialogue wouldn't have made it too long.
This should be adapted in clone wars animation style
Mathew Stover shod re-write The Forces Awakens to make it good.
Wayne Bacon He could probably make The Last Jedi better.
No matter how much you dress up a turd, it's still a turd. Even Stover couldn't save those two 'stories'.
300th like!!
Most people fell to the darkside because they were tempted by power but Anakin saw it as a means to an end 😢
that was a really good book! i read it at school. i cant get the part were saesee and kit r beheaded out of my mind tho. and he didnt go thru the jedis deaths like plo koons
Mathew Stover shod have write the sequel trilogy and it should have begun with Ban Solo turning into Kylo Ren bacons of his love for Ray
If you want the real story of Han and Leia's children, you should dig into the Legends Expanded Universe continuity, beginning with Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command, (collectively known as the original Thrawn Trilogy) written by Timothy Zahn in the early 1990s, which includes the birth of their twins Jacen and Jaina Solo, and continue on from there. Those stories are far better written than the new continuity (save for a couple of stand-alone books like Heir to the Jedi, which is set between Episodes IV: A New Hope and V: The Empire Strikes Back).
The interviewer is really creepy....I don't think he's in the same room...
😂🤣😁
Why tf is Gunther interviewing him😂😂😂
Is that gunter from friends
PUT THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF LUCASFILMS!
Uhhhh, is that the bartender from Friends?
Book "compliments" the film?
The RotS novel singlehandedly redeemed the entire Prequel Trilogy.
Yeah he looks like the guy who would run a martial arts studio in Florida and write macho fantasy fiction.
Anakin turned evil beacons he love Padma so mach.But Kylo Ren was just a carbora cut out who is evil bacons he has daddy issues and he who can't get a girl friend.Mathew Stover 10/10Jar Jar Abrems 1/10
Гений хули
The book 100000% crushed that weak and kiddie movie. The book made you BELIEVE and understand how and why anakin turned through the manipulation of sidious. Constantly stressed, constantly worried, constantly being pulled back and forth between a good and evil that was so unclearly defined to anakin. This book brought you on an emotional journey as opposed to that lame movie which featured horrible acting, a wooden script, and looked more like a cartoon. Matthew.. Please re write the rest of th
Lol
Everyone is saying one of the best Star Wars books ever written, it's more, it's one of the best BOOKS ever written. Period. And I'm a Jar-Jar bashing prequel hater!
Not a Star Wars fan and the movie sucked, but despite that Matthew Stover provided an awesome experience.
Why not?
Tbh I always felt the Star Wars movies sucked and were overrated but my god the STORY and the lore are fucking amazing. Anakin is easily one of the best characters in fiction. This is like white people’s One Piece
I liked Lucas's vision but the way he executed it was hit or miss usually. The Expanded Universe definitely saved Star Wars like you said.