Chibson Les Paul set up Part 1
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Warning: long unedited video. Not intended for entertainment, so please be ready to make with the fast-forward button :-)
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In this video I get to explore a Chinese-made counterfeit ‘Gibson’ (known as a ‘Chibson’) for the first time. I’d heard about these things but never seen one first hand. Different people had different views on them: from shoddy rubbish with unusable microphonic pickups to awesome copies that are getting better and better by the day…
The first thing to note is that this guitar’s construction is pretty good and it looks lovely. The ‘Les Paul’ lettering on the headstock is almost invisible so something went wrong there. And the pickups sound average at best (with a measured resistance of around 4.82 kOhms vs a comparable Epiphone or Wilkinson humbucker with around 14kOhms). I’ll be replacing these with a set of Toneriders in the next video.
The neck had a massive 90% of uneven frets - with the last two up by the body bent and buckled as if they’d been manually hammered in by someone desperate to finish their shift and go home. When you consider the conditions that these (and any other Far-East produced guitars) are probably made, then that’s no surprise. Post fret-levelling, the neck is now in great condition and should give a lightning fast and low action on reassembly.
In part 2 I’ll probably upgrade the pots and capacitors too as I think the basic bodywork construction is good enough to warrant it. This guitar cost Jay £60; with the addition of another £100 worth of pickups and pots plus the set up costs he’s going to have a very pretty, playable Les Paul copy for around the £220 mark.
Note on the ethical issues of counterfeit guitars: It’s obvious that importing counterfeit guitars is or should be illegal, regardless of whether or not that manufacture is legal in China. You wouldn’t want YOUR product undercut by copies produced at a fraction of what it cost YOU to make. You also wouldn’t want YOUR intellectual property ripped off i.e. your design, your look, your name and so on.
If / when I buy a guitar on eBay that has a fake logo on it, whether it’s a Squier pretending to be a Fender or a Chinese copy of something trying to be a Gibson, I replace that logo with a Reloved Guitars logo wherever I can (unless of course, it’s a customer’s guitar, like this one). I only buy on the strength of the guitar’s basic quality and suitability for a Reloved set up & upgrade. It’s not in my interest to put that guitar back out as a fake ‘Fender’ or ‘Gibson’.
I know this is one of the older videos, but I had to comment....
I bought two of these Chibsons, or should I say a Chibson and a Chender a few years ago. I special ordered the Chibson, talked to the sales guy via chat from Chinese company making them and got it just the way I wanted it for about $350 circa 2019?. One piece mahogany body, quilted maple top charcoal gray finish and a black back. Beautiful guitar! They sent me pictures through the whole process and I got it in like 3 months time? Anyway I got it for my kids hoping they would play them and alas! The younger son picked it up and has been playing it daily for a year along with the Rocksmith guitar learning game. So that in of itself was worth it.
The setup was not bad, pretty nice action right from the factory and only one fret which was a bit high noticeable only on the small e string around the 13th or 14th fret. Probably going to attempt to fix things around watching some of your videos. Very informative. Obviously going to also change out the electronics and pickups as well because the stuff they put in them is hot garbage. But hey, its working just fine for the kid so far.
He really wanted a 7 string to play some of the "metal" stuff he likes so I bought him a Jackson 7 string for about $300, (Also made in China) one of the cheapest they had and its night and day difference. The setup was horrible on it and even the Jackson pickups dont sound that great either compared to chibson. It also has hardly any weight to it so its probably made with some cheap soft wood. Needless to say although he plays the Jackson too, he just loves the Chibson.
Keep them videos coming, Ive watched countless hours of you working on guitars and it has given me valuable knowledge form a well seasoned and wise guitar tech. Probably going to attempt to fix things around watching some of your videos. Very informative.
I think the Epiphones are well worth their money. I have six, and they were eminently playable from new.
As a Fender devotee, the lack of the Gibson name doesn't bother me, and I'm quite proud of my various Squiers.
Another great video. I'm glad you sorted out the blooming whites in later videos.
6? You're an official collector sir!
The Squire Classic Vibe Strat and Epiphone Les Paul Standard are excellent guitars and cost under £400. More value for money than the Fender and Gibson that cost around £700-£2000
Thank you very much for posting this informative video. I just got through leveling the frets on my Chibson and it was of great help. 18 out of 22 frets rocked! I believe both Gibson and Chibson guitars are in need of fret leveling straight out of the factory. Chibsons may be worse but Gibson is also famous for a lack of quality control.
On a personal note I see absolutely nothing wrong with buying a Chibson as long as you understand that it is nothing more than a Chinese interpretation of an American Gibson. I cannot afford $8000 on a Gibson and see nothing worth that much on any American made guitar. After swapping out the tuners and nut and installing a set of SD Blackouts pickups after leveling the frets I am left with an awesome sounding guitar that I wouldn't trade for anything else.
Dan Given Hi Dan, that's good to hear!
Some folks think that doing what you've done is 'wasting' good money on 'junk' but I disagree. It's not wasting anything - you have a guitar you love to play. And the idea of 'junk' is completely subjective anyway. You have a guitar you love to look at and play which cannot fit the description of junk which is stuff that is useless.
Sam Deeks I spent a few thousand on a Jackson a few years ago; now THAT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY! My Chibson now has better action than the Jackosn.
Absolutely. I would never get rid of mine.
Excellent video. You explain things in an easy to follow way which serves to fill in any gaps there may be with any other videos out there. It was good to hear you mention how it is sometimes not that straight forward to determine what is high and what is low, I kind of figured this out myself so once again it was good to hear someone else referring to that.
Thanks for the feedback Phil.
It's weird that many people apply 'broadcast media' thinking to UA-cam - i.e. if you dare 'publish' videos, you'd better be an expert and get everything right the first time and you'd better hurry up with Part 2 or else :-)
Of course YT isn't like that. I'm in the shed working on guitars anyway. While I'm there, I might as well record what I'm doing because it definitely makes it easier for potential buyers to decide. Having recorded it, I've got no interest in editing it to a) make it shorter or b) make myself appear to be something I'm not :-)
The result? Very long videos where I make lots of mistakes, repeat myself continually and share boring personal info. But if it helps *any*one figure something out (even if it is that this isn't a way THEY want to do it) then that's a bonus!
the attention to detail is incredible!! great job
OCD or NERD? Who knows. Maybe it's an anti-dote to my day job ;-)
Personally, i like the camera view from the Epiphone set up vid. Seemed brighter, as well. Your technique and knowledge is outstanding. Obvious you've been doing this a while.
Hi Sam. Thanks for sharing!
+Sergio Giudicelli You're welcome Sergio - thanks for stopping by.
Very nicely done, Sam. I sure wish I could spend some time with you with my own instruments. I envy your skill set. I am by no means exceptional when it comes to much of anything, particularly techie-related stuff like you appear to be quite adept. Although I agree with you in principal regarding counterfeits, I know that people will resort to some amazing things in order to at least appear to be in possession of the real thing, and there are several reasons they do that, mostly economic-related. Once you've been exposed to the real thing, I would imagine that it is fairly difficult to be content with a counterfeit without making some alterations because the craftsmanship just isn't going to be there. I have to confess that I do possess some Chinese-made imports, but none would qualify as counterfeits as such as they were actually licensed by the parent US-based company. I grew up playing Gibsons but converted to Hamer in 2004, and I have several imported Hamers as well as my USA Hamers in my collection. I don't know if being licensed makes that much of a difference in craftsmanship when compared to actual counterfeits, but the conscience sure feels better anyways. ;) So far I have seen several videos about the Chibsons which point-out their many shortcomings, but I have to say that I admire your approach to the subject much better than others I have watched. Consequently, my first Hamer was an import from China and the only thing I changed on it early-on was that I replaced the pickups. I communicated with one of the top Hamer reps at their factory about what I could do to improve the guitar and he said that basically everything about the guitar, in his own experience, is pretty sound and that if he were to change anything it would be the pickups. So that is what I did, I replaced the generic pups with a set of Seymour Duncan '59s and the difference in tone was quite impressive. Hamers came standard with Seymour's pickups in their latter years so it just seemed like the natural thing to convert. I WOULD like to have the neck examined like you have done here...I do not note any problems with it just playing it though...in fact, it is one of my go-to guitars and I favour it over my 2004 Gibson SG Standard. I just love the tone and the playability is good. I appreciate your work very much, and thank you for such a great and intuitive video. LC, Houston, Texas.
Hi Larry - thanks for a great comment and your kind words. My approach to the subject comes from NOT being an ‘expert’ and having more questions than answers - and I prefer to keep it that way. I’ve done my share of ‘knowing for a fact!’ and it’s not a pretty look :-)
I like anything with strings that I can play because I enjoy playing guitars. My perspective is that most guitars can be made to play a lot better than they do when they leave the factory and this - in my short experience - applies to many of the expensive brands and models too. Not all, but far more than it should for the money you pay.
There are too many ‘beliefs’ in the world of guitar setting up tech-ing for my liking. I’m basically a rationalist and if there’s a good case for doing something then I’ll do it and evaluate the results for myself. So many people believe that bolt-neck Les Pauls are inferior to set neck ones but what’s the evidence? None that I’ve ever seen or that’s convinced me, and I can see a number of reasons why the opposite is true. When it comes to sustain I have a lot of time for Scott Grove (whose experiment demonstrated that his bolt-neck guitars had loads more sustain than the set neck ones).
Anyway, your experience with the Hamer sums up pretty much what I’ve found; all my well-set up budget guitars are just a decent set of pickups away from being great. With that in mind, I’m going to treat myself to a set of great single coils for my bust up, repaired old Sunn Mustang. I need a strat sound in my own ‘playing set’ of guitars and I adore the battered, vintage feel of that totally overlooked Indian-made classic now that I’ve repaired it and set it up to my liking.
Great point about the bolt-on necks. In my own limited experience, about the only thing I've noted regarding them is that in many cases the access to the upper reaches of the neck is less comfortable with a bolt-on. However, I have a set-neck which is Hamer's knock-off of a Les Paul (Hamer Monaco) that I am not very happy with for the same reason. So basically it boils down to six of one, and half a dozen of the other, and basically what your personal preference is which doesn't necessarily equate to one being any better than the other, etc. A great example of that would be the Floyd Rose Tremelos...I don't use a trem too much with my playing style, and the Floyds have to be about the most onerous when it comes to tuning-up after string replacement, those are a couple of reasons why I sort of steer clear of using them. But that has nothing to do with whether they are any good because a lot of people are using them because they fit their playing style. I think if you are a dive-bomber that a Floyd set up with a locking nut is probably the best way to go, but again, that is not the playing style I embrace the most.
On the subject of counterfeits, I don't know which would be worse from a moral standpoint, an outright counterfeit such as the Chibson with stamped Made In The USA and serial number, or someone converting their Epiphone Les Paul headstock to that of a Gibson. There is a video here on youtube of a guy showing how he did that to his Epiphone...all for the headstock. HAHAHA.
If I buy a 'fake logo' guitar it's because the guitar itself is worth having, and in those cases I just treat it as an excuse to scrub off the fake logo and put a 'Reloved' logo on featuring Maurice's beatific and somewhat enigmatic furry feline smile :-)
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars Maurice looks really inquisitive and chilled at the same time.
The debate as to what to put into a guitar like this is a hot one. I view it from the point of view that it is worth it if the base instrument s of sufficient quality. I have a Squire and MIM Fender plus an Epiphone Les Paul. Whilst they are not really cheap they are good enough to warrant upgrading the electronics. Downside is you never get back what you put into them money wise. Seems like you missed a lot of the frets lower down the neck. It would be worth getting a leveling beam, far more accurate than a small file.
+Stephen Gent I agree, not the guitar I'd choose to put a lot of money into. Not sure what you mean I missed a lot of frets... I levelled it all and it played beautifully afterwards. These days I use a different technique to level frets with the guitar in playing condition (i.e. strung, with neck under load & with some relief set) and as it happens, the tool I use for that is longer than the Crimson Guitars fret levelling file used here. The technical difference / improvement on this method over the one shown here isn't to do with the length of the tool but being able to level with the neck under compression.
Excellent video with clear commentary on exactly what & why you're doing things ... just one question - where is Pt 2 (or when is it due)? Really looking forward to seeing you sort out the electrics, fitting those 'new' Pups and hearing how she sounds. Keep up the great vids, perusing all others as and when time permits ;-)
Hi MrBeatle
Part 2 really due this coming week - I put the new pickups in yesterday and am doing the nut action and intonation any moment now :-) FYI the electrics part isn't very sophisticated - I'm just changing out the pickups although I suspect I should change out the pots and caps while I'm at it....
Thanks for the quick reply Sam ... the only reason I'm interested in the pick up swap-out / electrics is because I'm about to embark on a total rebuild of a '76 Aria Pro II Les Paul copy, and I'd like to see your method of controlling the grounding throughout the metalwork. Unfortunately I'm not courageous enough to tackle a full re-fret - that's being left to a local pro!!
Awesome video ! Thanks for this!
Hi Alex - thanks and you're welcome. I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays when the new pickups arrive
Hey Sam. Wasn’t sure wether to pm or public message this cos I am conflicted here. I bought a Chinese copy strat. The idea was as learner guitarist wanted to be on a budget
,so was looking second hand but also wanted to learn about setup but because this option has many pitfalls and the Chinese option was built to my specification, I took a risk. My experience with the result may of been mixed with the quality of the hardware but as a learning based exercise with regards to neck, frets, pickups and electronics it’s been invaluable for the £250 paid. Ethically I realise I’ve crossed a line, and Fender and Gibson are losing revenue. I looked at the classic vibe series as an alternative I didn’t go that way so I will never know. Always seemed to think fender had a bit more pragmatic view on things but one problem with guitars is the iconic timeless design of the ‘59 Lp or the SRV strat. Both fender and Gibson have had a go at “new” products but nothing seems to of caught the vibe of those icons. I tip my hat to PRS as they seem to be viable alternative quality and playability being paramount. While China was poorer in every way the quality is improving therefore the playingfield is being levelled. I realise I’m a weekend hero who thinks if I pick up a Dave Gilmore strat I will be able to play like him but just don’t have the disposable income to throw at that sort of guitar. Wasn’t sure where to make this comment but I’ve followed your channel for a long time and understand the philosophy that there are a lot of low budget guitars out there that can become perfectly operable is you know how to.......
Hi Sean! Hope you're well :-) Yeah... it's a minefield both in terms of quality and also the flak you'll get from certain quarters for being 'unethical'. Personally, experience has shown me that if you want a great-playing Les Paul style guitar there are a couple of ways to go; 1) Find something like a Rally GL300 and just PLAY it (they're almost always great as they are - a TON of good guitar for about £100-150 2nd hand if you can find them 2) Buy a decent Epiphone Les Paul and set it up, play it. £200 well-spent. 3) Buy a fair quality Les Paul (Rally, Epiphone, Westfield) for about £120 and spend another £300 on top notch electronics and pickups. You'll end up with a guitar the way you like it for about the same price as a 2nd hand Gibson bottom-of-the range Les Paul that won't be set up and may not be how you like it...
But you'll see that a Chibson doesn't feature in that list for me. The money you pay for them (as opposed to a decent Epiphone) is going into two things; the look (maple top effect) and the name on the headstock. Neither of those things are near the top of my priority list of 'what really makes me keep on picking up a guitar again and again...'
1) Stays and plays in tune
2) Has a great easy-to-play action
3) Great sound
4) Looks nice
5) Brand name
I think Chibsons probably appeal more to people who are still hooked into what I consider the less important aspects i.e. brand name and looks. Nowt wrong with that if that's your thing.... but you can make a £90 Westfield E4500 play and sound like a dream for another £250 spent on great pickups and set up.
Your frankness and experience is acknowledged and appreciated. Glad to see you seem to be keeping busy. I also think that the existence of UA-cam and google themselves encourage the Brand names to tighten up their acts. You just can’t afford to produce poor quality anymore.
You made a mistake when measuring the DC resistance of the original Chibson pickups.
You measured them wired in circuit whilst the pickup switch was in the center with both pickups on. I noticed the pickup selection when you turned the guitar over. Hence why you got the exact same resistance measuring neck and bridge. The volume/tone controls still affect the DC resistance whilst connected to the pickup, no matter if you take the measurement at the end of the pickup wires or jack socket.
I usually measure from the jack socket, ensuring volume/tone is maxed, and single pickup selected.
I'm so lucky with my hack jobs have come out pretty decent on the fret work. No tape medium grate flat file for the first few but I've been investing in actual fret tools and it's making the job easier. I've gotten a few chinese, korean etc les pauls/strats that actually are quite nice. Just lacking in the detail, frets bridge settings etc. Can't afford around 2-3 K for guitars, especially after having long time expensive collection ripped off by crackheads. Great in depth video. Thanks for putting this out there.
You're welcome Peter - thanks for the comment. You're right - a well set up Chinese or Korean guitar is a joy to play and it makes sense to learn how to pick up where the factory left off so you can finish them yourself!
Are the pickups potted? Noisey. Some Seymour Duncan black/creme zebras be a nice upgrade. Hate the covered pickups.
very nice thanks for sharing mate
i think that you must not mesure the pickups while they are conected... if the tongle switch is at the midle position the pickups are conected in parallel so you mesure both pickups at the same time and the dc resistance is half of the one pickup. and thats why they are both exactly 4.82k . sory for my bad english.
+MrBolopanos Hi thanks for your comment - your English is great, don't worry. THat's a really good point - thanks for taking the time to raise it. I'll definitely think about it... I had a look and the pickup selector was actually in the up / neck position just before I turned the guitar over so I don't know what that means :-) I sort of understand that the parallel output would be half and half... but I was measuring at the point that the pickup goes direct to the pot, rather than the output to the jack (which would be the combination of the two...). I'm not saying it still doesn't work the way you suggest - rather that's why I took the measurement where I did. But I don't know much about electrics so happy to learn :-)
MrBolopanos You are completely right about the pickup reading, it’s basic Ohm’s law of electricity. And also do not make contact with your fingers or your Body resistance could effect the reading. PS the read is K ohms as in Thousands of Ohms. Hope this is of help. 👍
Greetings, I bought a 2007 Epiphone Les Paul Standard on Ebay, when I was looking at it the description mentioned some scratches.. well, those on the body don't really concern me much, but when I got it I noticed 2 or 3 frets near the pickups were pretty scratched up.. I have been tossing around the idea of doing a fret job on it, but since I don't have the tools or the actual knowledge it kinda scares me.. tools aren't a problem as I know what I need.. but I just don't want to make any real mistakes, however your video here really helps in many ways.. of course I am still hesitant to do it, but eventually I will get around to doing it.. :)
+Kazahmish Hi! The first question you have to ask is 'is there enough metal on these frets to level, re-profile & sand?' If you think there is, then the simplest way is to flatten the neck with the truss rod and level with a dead flat sanding beam, working in strips across the width of the neck.
Doing the fret levelling with the strings on & a 'tune-able' levelling tool is more precise and lets you only take away as much fret metal as you need to get the action you want.
If you want to level the frets with the strings on, I recommend you watch a more recent video such as this one:
ua-cam.com/video/-f7cYVggYG4/v-deo.html
Good luck, happy to help if I can
+Sam Deeks Thanks for your reply, yeah I am sure there is enough metal to do it, right now I am waiting for a little extra cash so I can get the proper tools, and I may even purchase a cheap guitar just to practice on, even though the frets should already be level, I would like to cut my teeth on something that I wouldn't lose much sleep over if I were to muck it up :) I've noticed on another video that someone covered each fret with a sharpie so he could see when they all were pretty even... I wish I had a decent camera so I can upload my progress on that... :)
You're welcome. Practicing on a cheap guitar is the best thing you can do. Don't worry about the frets being level on a new guitar - ALL guitars have uneven frets on leaving the factory and almost all have uneven frets on leaving the retailer / shop too :-)
Buying Chinese guitars can always be a bit of an adventure but yer man is doubly lucky - to have only paid £60 and to have you on his side
Hi Paul - I think he got it from someone local...so didn't go through the "Miss Lee of Sunshine Happy Music Instrument Corporation" route :-)
Yoh Sam,60 quid,no way,second hand for sure.These guitars go for $250-$400 depending who you buy from,also you got to factor in shipping costs. They are great guitars ok,every one slags them off,either because they say Gibson or they got a bad guitar.If you want to buy one of these you have to do your research,find a decent seller.
I got the Slash AFD and the only prob i got is slight buzzing on the 7th fret.If you check the pups they'll probably be Epiphone 90% of the time.If it shows an F it means fail.Bit of TLC on these you'll have a great guitar
£60 so says the singer in my band, so you're right - a bargain right there for starters. The owner is spending £70 or more on pickups because I recommended that the basic guitar body is in great shape and worth keeping, so I agree with you. I don't have any negative prejudices about Chinese quality but, like I said, I'm not a fan of the 'fake' logo.
I ordered a Chibson last week, contacted a few sellers from ali, found one that would make what I wanted (maple cap vs veneer, etc). Didn't feel right having the Gibson name on it, so they're customizing one using my name & their font. Cost delivered is $260, about 1/2 what an Epi would cost, so if I have to make some changes, that's ok.
***** I did, it was somewhat botched, they didn't follow directions, so I got $125 refunded. The logo looks pretty poor and they put a veneer on it... But after replacing all the hardware & electronics, and doing a re-fret, it's a pretty good guitar! All told I'm into it for about $300... Put in Seymour Duncans & it fairly screams 8^)
I have bought 3 or 4 guitars from Ali. I gave very clear instructions for the specifics and they got none of what I asked for right. I don't think the English spoken is good enough to do business with the west, at any price. It's either that or deliberate ignoring of buyer's requested specs. Could be both. One of the guitars is a Dweezil Zappa mando guitar clone and if you don't know it, it has the mando style curl on the trebble side. It was supposed to be a one piece top and back and so far, I see 4 or 5 pieces. They almost never will make a one piece neck, in fact usually they are 3 pieces. They have a scarf cut on the headstock and essentially the same where it glues into the neck pocket or bolts in, depends on the style. I also have a Tak Matsumoto double cut LP and while the pickups are quite low impedance, they are some of the nicest, most musical sounding that I have come across. I'm not buying any more of their guitars, just tired of nothing being right.
\(*u*)/ I only use 2 dealers on DHgate, and they are fantastic. Fom Gibsons to Rics. The pickups aren't bad at all, and they are getting better.
who are they?
4.8k!!! Horrible. My Tokai Chibson pickups measured out at 7.7k at the neck and 8.3k at the bridge. I removed the chrome plated brass covers and switched out the magnets with Alnico 2's. I also levelled and crowned the frets, installed a graphtec nut, replaced the pots with strong 500k CTS pots, new capacitors, epiphone bridge (because the original saddle adjustment screws froze up). Love the vid's:) Take care.
+Jim Raimondi I might follow your example one of these days and change out magnets (to see if I can tell the difference) but it's kind of advanced for me :-) I'm just about capable of changing out pickups... but pulling them apart? Wooo - that's scary stuff!
+Sam Deeks I watched a few your video's and I can tell by your attention to detail that swapping magnets would not be beyond your expertise. If it is a humbucker with a cover that is wax potted, you will have to repot the pickup. Otherwise, when you put your cover back on the pickups will squeal at higher gain settings very much like a real PAF. I left my covers off and the pickups are quiet as can be.
Hi, i am looking to buy a Gibson 335 bass replica (EB-3) but they are many vendors on aliexpress an i am not sure who to pick, many different vendors show the exact same photos. I hope you can help me, thanks!!!
Your voice was made for instruction videos!!!
Cheaper Varients are always available.
Great video man! I love my Chibsons and conversely both of my Chibsons needed some love! But they're sweet now. Keep them coming, digging into a few of your vids now that I've discovered your channel!
Thanks Nick, appreciate your feedback. If you watch more than 1 of my videos you *may* hear me uh...repeat myself ;-) Don't say I didn't warn you. I'm really looking forward to putting some different pickups in and hearing how it sounds. The owner may need to sell this guitar and something tells me I might be in the queue!
I changed the Nut on my Chibson & now the high E,B & G strings
have a slightly deadened sound. Any idea what I did wrong? I already
tried to clean it, I took it off & re positioned it & still
sounds like crap.
is a part 2 on the way?
I'm waiting for the new pickups still! As soon as they arrive I get on to it :-)
Has it been made?
In answer to John: yes, a neck should be straight for fret levelling and the subsequent sanding. Also the paper grits I use tend to be 240, 600 and then 1,500 - 12,000 Micromesh set
Are there any non counterfeit low cost name brand guitars that you've found to generally have more acceptable fret leveling from the factories today?
Hi JH - Short answer is 'no'. So far not a single noticeable trend to show one budget brand has better fret levelling than another.
hey Sam , can I use micro mesh cloths to remove scratches off my pick ups
+Andy Isaacs Hi Andy... not sure. I don't think you'd ever get back to a shine on the chrome if you did. I'd avoid it personally and live with the scratches (or look into new chromed covers)
HELLO! i have question, its very important for me - what you used for Chibson Les Paul set up? can you right names and characteristic. thanks!
This is detail work, okey, don't try to fake it, the end is a good result, hmmm....
cheers to mr morris! :)
+TheUmart Mr Maurice salutes you sir
Do you know Julian?
Which Julian Karl? I can't remember who I may have mentioned (being 5 years ago now)
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars the guitar doctor
@@chris61981 Julyan Wallis we're connected on FB but I haven't met him personally
Wireless mic is great.......what kind is it?
IanScottJohnston It's a Samson Ian, not sure of the model number now but it's the 'boom' set. Great little rechargeable received unit makes the whole thing 'go anywhere'. I've just started using it again today after having made it so it balances equally in the left & right channel (i.e. mono).
i own a few, s101. im not an expert musician or tech. but i know the set up basics and h ave a great ear the chinese/korean companies have done a great job the guitars sell themselves with an excellent price to quality ratio...what im wondering is whats the point telling the owner of a "fake" guitar what he already knows? whos the intended audience. if youre truly touting the gibson sound and workmanship to a novice audience....use a gibson model side by side otherwise it can appear to be more of a whiney attempt by gibson to advertise by tearing something down, versus building yours up, and with no real success....very informative, but can appear biased.
Ha! Made in U.S.A. grrrrr................genius !
I think the care you put into your guitar work is amazing...me, I'de just take an Arkansas stone, rap it over the frets a few strokes, and be done with it...and slap in a set of Bare Knuckles...Nothing says shred than a fist in your face!
Thanks for the compliment...I make everything as good as it can be, that's the hope anyway. I wouldn't buy a Chibson myself but when a customer asks me to make it play as well as it can, I'll do that for them - and without moralising too :-)
Hi Sam thanks for your reply.Ok,fake logo but seeing as Gibson have put their prices up by 25% this year who cares,besides you can put any logo you want on these guitars.If you got over $2000 for a real Gibson fine,but if you got a limited budget and want to pretend to be Slash or Page these are the deal. I'm changing the pups for Dimarzio 36th Anni's PAF,Pop's for CTS and addingOrange Drop Caps,can't afford Bubblebees hahaha.
Check out the various Chibson sites here you'll be surprised what people do to these guitars.Sam,buy one hahaha
I'd have no problem buying one...just I'd put something else on the headstock :-) Gibson's stupid prices and corporate complacency will be its downfall anyway I reckon.
Why waste your time on these toys😜
The only thing I have to say about copyright infringement is this.
Who the fuuuuuuuuuck cares.
Those guitars are sold to individual people who know damn well they are fake. When someone turns around and sells them then yeah that's pretty niggy but if you're prepared to spend $2800 on a guitar, you should know what you're paying for. I play a gold top all night with the Gibson logos and I couldn't give a flying fuck less what anyone says. Matter of fact, I love telling people it's fake because they prefer to play that over my real Gibson's that I don't even take out anymore. The copies are better guitars than modern Gibson's. Even the acoustics.
Hi Sam you're right on that point,over priced and quality control down the pan.As i said you can add your own logo on these guitars,even put Fibson hahaha.Sam,if you get one let me know ok.
By the way,i like your vids,sorry i didn't say that sooner.Cares mate
Thanks for your videos they helped me, keep up the good work
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overexposure cant see.
Sorry! Way back then I suffered from a regular overexposure - too much pointing camera at white / bright areas. Less these days.