Did Dream RIG the 2020 Minecraft Mob Vote?
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2021
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The 2020 Mob Vote is an infamous moment in Minecraft history. Some consider it to be rigged - but was it?
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In my opinion this is one of many reasons why the mob vote shouldn’t take place on Twitter due to the toxic nature of the platform, I’m surprised the poll hasn’t been put on the official Minecraft website. Probably wouldn’t make a difference though since it wouldn’t change anything.
I do honestly think it would change a thing. Its not like everyone and their dog use twitter or facebook.
Literally anywhere else would be fine!
@@sitrueis4007 But only idiots use twitter, thats the core point
@@grandmasteryoda6717 I do find mojang trust worthy as java player, its not like they are EA, ubisoft or activision. It would be better for people who care about minecraft and don´t use social media or such to be on their website... I dunno maybe I´m too old but I would expect such thing to be on their website.
@@CODA96 Ye dah I do agree, Twitter is like Eropean Union leadership, full of communist and idiots lmao.
Iceologer and the hovering inferno will always be in my heart. Even if I'm slaughtering thousands of glow squids and phantoms the sorrow never ends.....
Its always a shitty blue mob that wins
@@nullarcanathe phantoms now just go weeee attacks you and says byeeee
@@nanuqo2006 yh when I see a glow squid I kill it
The Wildfire/Hovering Inferno is not discarded and there are rumors that they will be added in a possible structure update
@@AndreSkipper "rumors" and I'm pretty sure mojang said specifically that those group of mobs are gone forever if the community didn't vote for them
Kids should know that the mob vote happens once a year, and the ones that are lost are lost forever. I actually was so annoyed by this that I deleted the glow squid texture.
W
Are there any mods that remove the Glow Squid from the game?
@@dantelawrence4676 no, just go in the texture files and delete the texture
you can delete textures!? i'll do that right now!
@@maxgoushaw1977 it would just spawn a glitched mob, glow squids would still exist
1. All mob's should be confirmed to be added later
2. Twitter is a horrible place to hold polls
3. Creator's have to be responsible
4. They shouldn't show the percentages during the voting, only after the round concludes
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1. Then that defeats the purpose of the mob vote if all of them will go into the game at a later date.
2. Agree a little bit.
3. They did for the most part.
4. Yeah
@@lycandoodle nah they’ve done that for biomes already. You prioritize the winners and eventually add the rest.
I agree except for 3.
Even if they were “irresponsible”, the voting of someone is down to them alone
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It’s funny how quickly things can go out of hand, and spiral into chaos.
Seriously. I was pretty much uninvolved during the actual vote, but it was fascinating to see how things kinda fell apart
@@RetroGamingNow the big question is, who did you vote for?
@@Anyting9OnTopGrrr dont even man cmon
@@thatdude1252 what? I just asked a question bruh tf u on about
@@Anyting9OnTopGrrr the whole point of the vid is that peeps should not always share their opinion online
At the end of the day, all of this was Mojang's fault. I still absolutely hate the mob vote, because the loser mobs will never get added in the game. Why? It's such a waste of a good concept. I'm still mad the King Blaze, Iceologer and Copper Golem will never be in the game. Every single mob on the vote should be added in the game, with the winner added first.
@Random Memes From Discord In how many decades though?
It is definitely frustrating that they continue to offer these cool ideas but then most of them won't get added. Personally, I am not a big fan of the mob votes for this reason
@Random Memes From Discord They said the loosers of the first vote will never be added...
@Random Memes From Discord Yeah, they had some really cool designs.. I'd honestly take "the master blaze" or "the monster of the ocean depths" over most of the mobs we've been getting the past few updates.
They said they would add the loosing mobs/biomes (except the first 4 probably) into Minecraft like the swamp and frogs
Even on the Minecraft website they are adding the badlands and vaulters
I think another big topic is Dream's strategy of attempting to sway. Him using ad hominems and a VERY brash tone is the biggest reason why he mightve been the target. From the tweets, Captain Sparklez brought up "opening the moo blooms with open arms" while Dream tried convincing moo blooms with saying iceoligers are idiots. Sparklez, even when being a little unfair to Moo blooms and Glow squids, did at least give a reason why he thought his vote was most interesting.
Fr, one of them just kept insisting while the other one gave actual reasons. This is why I think it was rigged, Dream didn’t even care about who won but he swayed ppl into voting for the mob he thought was funny to vote for. Not bc it was cute, or useful. Just funny, to him and those who agreed with him
But it was still YOUR choice to choose who to vote for. YOUR at fault not dream! I don't see y'all going off on anyone else who tries to get people to vote for their mobs. Leave Dream alone!
@SarahM-ku4bu bro. Why you tossing dream off this hard? The dramas been dead for like years now.
@@hipepleful I'm not. And they're still going off about it
@@SarahM-ku4bu who's they?
I remember while watching the Livestream during the mob vote on UA-cam dream went in the live comments and typed VOTE GLOW SQUID. So dream was not only promoting his opinion vote on Twitter, he also did it on the Livestream. Which No other creator did but him.
doesn't he also have a youtube channel? and other youtubers were also simping for the other options. they're just doing what they're doing, although Dream looks more reckless.
@@Hadeto_AngelRust No Dream took it wayyy further than the other creators. He started a warzone.
@@critter_coreand then he said im so sorry that i and my community did a little bit of fun we didn't know that this was so important
@@crimsonfirestorm4239 wait are you trying to defend him or is that sarcasm lol
Like, cmon, there’s a line between a joke that’s funny and a joke that was taken too far lol
@@critter_core its sarcasm i dont defend him i find it already stupid when he said in his apology that this was just fun for him and his Community
The main thing that makes me mad is that the glow squid adds nothing to the game. If the glow squid didn't exist glow berries would just take their place for crafting recipes.
I voted the glow squid because of first off an overreaction from the phantom. I was put off from hostile mobs and worried about them being the same level of annoying. This was an overreaction but it was an influencing factor. The second reason was naivety. I believed that glow squids could be a moving light source. I had no knowledge of dynamic lighting so I believed they could be used for some really cool tech, and I learned I was wrong later. The last reason was I liked aquariums and found the glow squid kinda nice looking. That last one is the only legitimate reason that really wasn’t a flawed thought.
@@kaielmacmillan9258 I still think the Moobloom would've did the squid's job better :(
It's so annoying
@@jeremiahgreen5632they r both good but I prefer glow squid. My servers- for some reason- always have at least 1-2 oceans and those glow squids rlly help out. I haven’t come across EVEN ONE of the biomes that the moonbloom spawns in.
The glow squid may not add anything to the game for U but for some ppl it’s useful. Especially when there’s lots of water sources in the caves.
My biggest issue with mob votes is that there is never enough information about the mobs, so we effectively make uninformed decisions and end up with situations like the Phantom. That said, overall the Phantom and the Glow Squid aren’t that problematic in-game, but if we had more info about them, we might have picked a different, perhaps better, option.
With OptiFine, the Glow Squid is much cooler, due to dynamic lights, but obviously not everyone has or can have OptiFine. But even with OptiFine, its drops can’t do very much. Not every mob and its drops have to helpful for players trying to survive, but we got this whole mob and the only thing its drop does is make signs and item frames super bright. If the glow ink sac could, for example, turn signs and item frames into low-level light sources as well as retaining their current features, Glow Squids might be more enjoyable to find. It’s features like these that we aren’t told about in the votes, if they’re even going to be in the game, and I feel like it seriously detracts from the mob votes.
Mojang also shoujdnt put mobs for different people here.
In this Vote Mojang had:
1 Mob for the more overall exploring and fighting players.
1 Mob for Farming players.
1 Mob for players who like Ambience.
THIS IS AWFUL. Cause each option only appeals to the oerson who votes for it and doesn't add anything to the other types of players.
It's like if a grocery store had a vote and now only sold food for people on a Keto Diet. It's stupid.
I get that adding in more mobs is difficult. But here is an idea.
Instead of having one 3 way Mob Vote. We get three 2 way Mob Votes. In this instance it would be,
Iceoooger Vs ???
Honey Cow Vs ???
Glow Squid Vs ???
It would even Allow Mojang to bring back older ideas that didnt make it in Mob Votes. And just works overall as a better system. Since it better allows each part of the community to come to a consensus on what they want. Without having to step on the toes of the other 2/3rds to do it.
yeah, i actually voted for the glow squid because i thought its 'trance' effect would add a creative hostile mob to the ocean that wasnt just a retextured zombie. turns out, literally all of that was just for show.
I’m worried this is going to happen with the Allay. In the original mob vote video, it wasn’t made clear that the mob will only pick up already-existing items for you, and many people came to the conclusion that it would dupe items for you instead, making it easy to get a lot of diamonds and netherite etc. So I’m a bit worried that when the Allay does come out, Mojang will face backlash from the people who thought it could duplicate items
honestly with how the glowsquid was presented in the mob vote i actually thought it was gonna be pretty cool and would be capable of 'hypnotising' the player to drown, similar to subnautica's mesmer but no, it's literally a squid with a bright texture that doesn't even have a dynamic light source. a massive waste of a mob vote.
@@cmtcomet Same
Moobloom and iceologer had functionality. The squid was just a mob that we already have with a new texture
The cow was the mushroom cow. -redesigned and flowers instead of mushrooms. And the only thing it does is interact with bees. Big deal.
@@mozbek7166 the squid was a retexture of a squid and the only thing it does is... swims around in underwater caves. absolutely useless mob, i would rather have the moobloom
@@41sss the cow is a retextured cow . It has flowers on top of it instead of mushrooms. At least the squid actually helps when u find water source in caves and it’s deep. The cow would be useless- no wonder it got 3rd. Not to mention the cow would pretty much only be useful for kawaii’s- including u cuz u act like one. I’m just telling u my opinion about the squid and no- I do not agree that it was the worst mob in the vote. It isn’t great, but it isn’t awful.
@@mozbek7166you can't even see shit with the glow squid
bro you are a kid and this is why mob voting on twitter sucks ass because we have to deal with numskulls who reek of brainrot like you who prove themselves wrong "the moobloom is just a retextured cow but has flowers and interacts with bees big deal" the big deal here is the fact that the moobloom and iceolliger interact with things the glow squid is literally just dummed down to a retextured squid that doesn't even actually glow@@mozbek7166
I wanted the moobloom so bad it's so cute, I'll never get over this personally
Me neither, and to kind of respond to Punk Pikachu (the comment above) not everybody can download mods and texture packs...
The Glow Squid was honestly the worst of the three...
@@Punk-Pikachu I think he is suggesting platforms that have Minecraft but don't support custom texture packs/mods.
I was team chillagor (im calling it that since it is easier to say) because it was super cool. I will also never get over this. I wanted glare though since he baby :)
No
The irony is that moobloom could of just been added in as a reskinned cow that only spawns in flower forests and such
Yet apparently that's too much effort
My opinion on Dream, having watched a few of his videos during his rise to popularity, and also having some experience with the "stan" community (or at least, earlier versions of it on tumblr) is that while he's not malicious, he is irresponsible.
Dream has a large group of young, devoted followers on his hands. And that is a very dangerous thing, because these are children. Children, who don't know how to not take things they care about seriously, who don't know the difference between a fake feud between creators and legitimate animosity, who will take anything he says at face value and not think twice about doing whatever he asks. You can't expect kids to get nuance, or to not take things out of context, or understand that roleplay is separate from reality, or to take things as a joke when it's not painfully obvious.
Now, Dream is far from the only one with a community like this; Minecraft creators are especially prone to it, considering the nature of Minecraft as a game marketed primarily to children. And I don't agree with holding a content creator wholly responsible for the actions of their fanbase. However, fanbases like Dreams require careful management. You have to be responsible about what you say and how you say it, you have to stay on top of the community to shut down toxic behavior before it gets out of hand.
As an example, one could look at the recent Empires SMP on UA-cam. It's a roleplay-heavy server, and when peoples' fans started to get upset with other creators for what they did on the server, the various members each addressed the issue with their own communities, making it clear that they're all adults and friends who have consented to what's happening beforehand. This helped keep things relatively friendly in the community.
Dream... Doesn't do this. He doesn't seem to address rashes of toxic behavior in his fanbase, and when he does it's long after the fact and far too late to do anything about it. He often makes inflammatory and aggressive statements (as noted in your video, on his initial response to the cancel dream hashtag) without stopping to think what kind of reaction that could incur. Sure, he'll often apologize afterwards, but frankly, when you have a community of rabid preteens ready to send death threats on your behalf, apologies aren't good enough. Dream needs to take a more proactive role in his community, and stop deflecting all blame.
Exactly, my same thoughts as well
bro this is about the mob vote not the ideology of stan culture
@@xanmeno Still relevant, considering that the claim of many is that Dream used his devoted fan culture to his advantage to rig the vote.
Very well said. I can’t stand irresponsible creators with large and easily-impressionable fan bases
spot on take
I was team cow. Minecraft needs more fantasy stuff in the daytime overworld.
Right?! More fantasy passives would be so awesome, plus the Moobloom works well with the Mooshroom
Exactly. Fantasy creatures in Minecraft make the game so much more fantastic, and the Moobloom does that much better than the glow squid, and also has a actual use
I’m late but the cow was so cute AND IT ACTUALLY HAD USE
the voters had a chance to possibly change minecraft, but they voted a reskin of a squid
Personally i was iceologer cos i wanted another challenging mob, but moobloom was still better than the dumb fking squid
As someone who doesn't really know or care about Dream, I think the issue was mostly his attitude. People were like genuinely trying to explain why they thought one mob was better, and then he'd just pop in spamming VOTE GLOW SQUID basically cancelling out any discussion. Then afterwards, immediately shifted blame. He coulda said right from the beginning 'hey guys im sorry that my campaign ended up being more annoying than I intended, and I wasn't trying to force people to vote glowsquid, I just wanted to meme a bit' or something
You missed on important aspect though, Dream said to vote the glow squid in the live chat, so maybe that might've caused it to win overall.
I’m not mad about dream. I’m mad about his loyal fans not voting for the mob that they actually want to be added in the game. Instead they ruined the vote for EVERYONE!
@@thegeniuschannelwithlandon498 aggreed
“As always, think for yourself.”
I love that. So many people need that advice...
I’m looking forward to the next video!
The glow squid is alright but the fact that it literally doesn’t glow as it’s name suggests is such a massive turn off.
shame there is no ice mage in the mountains : (
It... Does glow tho???
@@LLLadySSS It does glow but doesn't emit light.
@@LLLadySSS Not really...
@@LLLadySSS Glowing means it emits light, but it doesn't.
8:24 From that day on, I promised myself to obliterate any glow squid I detect on any of my worlds, until Adventure Time's Ice King (Iceologer) is added to the game.
Destroy the stans and vote idea
13:08 This one is so true. People called Sparklez stupid, but he was one of the few who didn't vote for a stupid mob idea.
I think the hatred escallated as the actual mob was released. First, the announcement that dynamic lighting wasn't gonna be a thing was extremely weak compared to the thousands of tweets the UA-camrs got. Also, the trailer mentioned some sort of mesmerizing effect, hallucinating jeb_ and Agnes. It didn't get added. It it were added, the underwater caves would've been a bit more challenging as the only threat we have in aquifers are occasional zombies who got into the waters.
The hate died out after its loot was released since it was legitimately cool stuff
@@gmalamat1393 ahh yes inksacs
NEW AND INTERESTING LOOT that has been in the game for years
@@gmalamat1393 Yeah, the glowy signs did improve the visibility of the text for sure, and the item frame was a good addition to map making, but still, the possibilities were very limited, and the hype for that item died died really quick.
Anyways, I still think that dynamic lighting should've been the trait for glow squids, and Optifine proves my point. If they were to never add dynamic lighting in the first place, they shouldn't have even mentioned it as a candidate. The muddy pig was the most iconic mob of Minecraft Earth, followed by the cluckshroom.
@@CivetKittyMC honestly I wouldn't like either in base Minecraft. But yeah I agree dynamic lighting would be an improvement. But really, they still look incredibly cool in the right setting
@@gmalamat1393 the “loot” was almost terrible
People really do need to learn to think for themselves when it comes to life in general
Unfortunately that's not the case. That's why people vote for terrible presidents/prime ministers.
Dream could literally tell his fanbase to jump off a bridge and he'll follow them on twitter, and of course they'll do it.
@@Sceptonic when the bankers always own both of the candidates it's not like there's a good choice
@@xp8969 true
Yes! It's ok to listen to a variety of sources (and you should!), but ultimately, everyone should make their own decision
The Iceologer should live in igloos, and the Hovering Inferno should act as a mini-boss in the Nether.
Also imagine the Iceologer will damage magma cubes, striders and blaze in the nether. When it accidently hit them.
Sparklez provided logical reasonings for why the chillager was the best mob and tried to convince people without the use of hurtful language. Dream provided no real reasonings for the glow squid and used toxic language to make people feel ashamed or of less worth if they voted for the chillager, and due to the nature of Twitter, toxicity always wins. It would have been a landslide win for the chillagers if there was no social media influence.
The Chillager was definitely the best option to vote here.
Yes
Not for players who are more interested in decoration, building or farming. That was the main issue with this vote, each mob catered to a completely different part of the Minecraft community
@@_kaleido Creative Mode player here, Chillager is superior
@@MidnightCapricorn2696 Have to disagree with you. Glow squid is the better option.. dont have to have to deal with yet another annoying, pain in the ass mob when trying to gather resources. And the glow squid adds some good ambiance to the game.
@@psal8715 not moobloom huh
I remember that day and, uh... Even with big Hispanic/Spain youtubers there was no problem with voting by ourselves and not by their choice. But Dream and his fanbase...
Are evil yeah
@@tobisans8989 no just stupid
Its not just dream and his fanbase, literally everyone pushed their fans to vote for them. Just because that glow squid actually won doesnt mean only he did it. Have to look at the bigger picture, i wasnt team glow squid, but captain sparklez started the whole tweet thing, soo why cant dream join?
I dont think dreams fault (no im no dream fanboy) i just think if captain sparklez starts tweeting about who we should vote for, dream can do the same. Both tried to influence their audience and thats about all. Dream came on top and now the other supporters are mad, thats just how we as humans are.
dream's only fault is not addressing his toxic fanbase directly about how most of them fight for him on the internet as if he was a saint of the catholic church.
I still call that sinful thing the Dream squid, have command blocks teleporting them into the void, and a data pack that replaces the glowninc sac in recipes with glow stone dust, ya know...something else that GLOWS.
Of course, I with a Mojang account could not vote for a game I play because I don't have a Twitter account that is completely unrelated to the game in question.
what i do is sacrifice glow squids to the sculk
thats kinda petty lmao
@@noobyt3559 same
video proof: ua-cam.com/video/itAHBR_LvxU/v-deo.html
@@bloopyxd5999 don't talk
@@silverdemon1530 still really toxic as crap
It aggravates me because HE voted for a mob that he didn’t give a rats ass about as a joke. And thought aggressively tweeting for people to vote for this mob and even put out the “I’ll follow you trick”. And he didn’t think his fan base who have made literal death threats to people for not liking his content would be serious about voting for the mob. So in my opinion I think he rigged the shit out of it, but I also think he was not the only one so I still blame him. But not ONLY him.
Mojang is also to blame. Why not add all 3? 2 of them are litteraly a reskin so it shouldent take that long to add. The only one I see actually taking any meaningful work to add is the iceologer and they didn't even make the Glowsquid GLOW. I cant be the only one who is upset at mojang for how they treat this.
Bruh
That's one thing but imagining voting literally the worst one once u would be like nothing special just an glow squid who in the world would stay there spend minutes watching it while fighting the new illager iceologer would be so good it was such an unique and cool mob
Their lazy
Technically all 3 are heavily based on pre-existing mobs
I basically didn't want a glowing squid to win. There's other ways to possibly make "glowing dye" with glowstone dust and a water bottle or something like that. The moobloom sounded really cool and so was the iceologer
I personally thought that magic of that caliber would fit in Minecraft and wanted to have glowing dye in wool and banners that they did not add
Personally I'm glad we got Glow Squid. I'm not against Chillager being added later, but we have so many villager variants and so little aquatic life, whenever we get an aquatic mob in the vote, I'm voting aquatic, good or bad, until there is at least a nice bit of diversity with aquatic creatures. Still waiting on Stingrays or Crabs.
@@megaman37456 Illager variants: Pillager, Vindicator, Evoker, Ravager (they're not actually Illagers tho). Total: 4
Aquatic mobs: Squid, Cod, Salmon, all variants of Tropical Fish, Pufferfish, Dolphin, Turtle, Axolotl, Glow Squid, Guardian, Elder Guardian.
Total: 11.
So... a lot of Illagers but so little aquatic life huh
i feel like having a glowing dye involve glowstone dust would make it rather tedious to try and get the dye, and wouldn't feel fitting. glowstone dust is already used for glowstone and brewing.
(also the iceologer is really annoying, trust me i played the creeping winter dlc. it's the second worst mob of by far the worst dlc)
@@Helio_Asou many of the aquatic mobs like turtles, squids, and dolphins are quite forgettable to most players, and the 4 different types of fish blend together a lot to the point i'm surprised they're not all grouped together into just a "fish" mob with unique biome variants. additionally, ocean monuments are very shallow features that reek of mojang's old, pre-1.13 design principles, or lack thereof, so guardians and elder guardians are often ignored.
i do agree with you that there should be a few more illager mobs, but i definitely think more diverse aquatic life especially outside the oceans is more important.
Not only did Dream affect the vote, he did so as a joke for a mob he didn't even want. I genuinely despise him as a person for this single action 10X more than any cheating scandal ever could.
Same. I honestly wish he never existed, or never joined the Minecraft community
Bro it’s just a squid😂
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 He😂rigged😂the😂entire😂mob😂vote😂because😂he😂was😂feeling😂quirky😂
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 yeah a useless glowing squid that wins over a mob that's actually would be worth for minecraft.
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 we lost something of value because of some asshole groomer
Okay, so me and my friend were texting each other at the time of the vote. From this conversation, there is some additional and interesting data to look at. This is the timeline as evidenced from our conversation and screenshots that we showed (My times are in GMT):
17:31 - Dream has tweeted "vote g l o w s q u i d #MinecraftLive", before the vote has even started. This tweet is visible in a screenshot taken at the start of the vote, and says "8m ago".
17:39 - The vote begins with Round 1.
17:40 - The Glow Squid is already in the lead, as I express shock in the fact.
17:41 - With 177,985 votes and 18 minutes to go, Moobloom is at 26.9%, Iceologer at 35.7%, Glow Squid at 37.5%. This is evidenced by a screenshot. Glow Squid is in the lead by 1.8%. Still, I am saying I think Iceologer will win.
17:42 - I comment that the gap between Iceologer and Glow Squid is closing.
17:43 - Glow Squid and Iceologer are EVEN, at 36.3% each.
17:44 - Dream posts his infamous follow tweet.
17:45 - I comment that Glow Squid has taken the lead again.
17:46 - I comment that the Iceologer has "really receeded behind Glow Squid", so the Glow Squid has really pulled ahead. For the first time, I actually suspect the Glow Squid could win.
17:47 - My friend comments the Iceologer is "Down even further"
Unfortunately this is all we wrote about round 1 of the mob vote, but the clear trend is that since 17:45, Glow Squid has taken the lead again and is getting further and further into the lead.
17:59 - Round 1 ends, Iceologer 34.8%, Glow Squid 36.9%.
18:11 - Round 2 begins. Immediately, the Glow Squid is ahead considerably.
18:13 - Iceologer/Glow Squid is 46 / 54. Glow Squid has clearly stormed ahead at the start.
18:14 - Iceologer/Glow Squid is now 47.5 / 52.5. Very close to the final result actually.
18:16 - Vote is now 47.6 / 52.4.
18:18 - The vote is now on what will go on to become the final result, 47.3 / 52.7.
18:20 - It is still 47.3 / 52.7. At this point I accept Glow Squid has almost certainly won.
Knowing the Glow Squid has won, I turn my attention away from the vote as they have started revealing more C&C features. My attention turns to that and I don't talk about the vote again until it is over.
As we see here, in round 1, Glow Squid had the edge from the beginning. It is worth noting that Dream was already tweeting by then. But then a few minutes into the poll, the GS and Iceologer actually broke even. But this was literally RIGHT before Dream tweeted that follow tweet. As soon as that was tweeted, the Glow Squid pulled straight ahead again. Now, this is a correlation, but what even I can never know was that if this was CAUSATION. We cannot know if Dream's follow tweet is what caused Glow Squid to gain traction, but from this, I can see that Glow Squid did indeed pull ahead again in the minutes after Dream tweeted that tweet about following anyone who votes Glow Squid. By round 2, it's clear the Glow Squid was going to win.
bumping this for all the stat nerds like myself
thanks dude
you are very correct correlation does not equal causation so without doing some statistical mumbo jumbo (lol) it's hard to tell if that move ahead was because of the tweet or because of the new voters for either the iceologer or the glow squid seeing as the moobloom lost those voters who wanted a say in the following round needed to vote for a new mob.
however if you half the voters for the moobloom (28.3%) and add each half (14.2%) to the remaining mobs at the end of round 1 you would get Iceologer: 49% and glow squid: 51.1% stats would need to be done to figure out how many people to change the percentage up or down to know more information on making an educated guess, but we can't know and that part bugs me i love stats and i wish there was some way to measure dreams effect with the info we have but there isn't unless a survey was done to find out why people voted the way they did and if dream had anything to do with that vote. i think he is a jerk so that's why i don't like him the proof of that is his attitude and his cheating.
Can somebody tell me why tf dream wanted the glow squid so bad?
@@feintexp-2530popular theory was that he wanted to keep the speed game the same through the update so didn't want an extra hostile mob added. This was before his cheating happened
I have to say that even without the possibility of influence swaying the vote, the follow for a vote is still a scummy action, and that alone makes me dislike him.
But he is excused because it was "just for fun lawlz" and that makes it okay.
Exactly, trying to claim Dream isn't at least *somewhat* manipulative sometimes would be an outright lie given that he tried to run from cheating accusations for 5 months and make it out as if the moderation team were framing him.
ok fair point
Whilst I do enjoy some of Dreams content (the manhunts) as I find them entertaining (regardless if they're staged or not), I personally, and sadly agree that the person behind the entertainment isn't that great of an individual.
@@OwlskiTV true
The entire thing with dream just makes me want to crawl into a dark hole and never come out. Its not dream himself, nor dreams fans, nor dreams critics, its all of them, and their interactions, vicious and disgusting toward themselves and each other for no truly justifiable reason.
The vote was rigged. They added a lame mob when we could've had a Minecraft Dungeons mob who would be challenging.
Isn't it crazy how everything builds off of everything else? It's such a strange thing
@@RetroGamingNow often times it leaves me wondering whether I'm the outlier in my willingness to let things be, and that's about the time i start searching for the hole
Hey if you do go into a hole invite me
I'll bring a guitar
@@_TheCollective Dream already had previous history with this. He took part in speedruns, which he cheated in. It didn’t matter whether or not he cheated or didn’t cheat, it’s his fans that flamed anyone who disagreed with Dream who are the problem, the people who flame those people are equally bad too.
Personally, I wanted the moobloom.
I personally wanted the Chillager to win but the yellow cow is still better than a goddamn glowing squid.
Same
same
Same
Same.
Blame Dream for forcing us to vote for it!@@ItzJust_T1M
I still remember this historical moment with my very own eyes. It was midnight (I live i the east), I was spending time with my parents in their apartment, and I remember sitting on my bed, excited for Minecraft live. When the mob vote came, I was so desperate for the Iceologer to win. When it ended, I came out of my bedroom, disappointed and completely frustrated. I will truly remember that always.
Bro started his villain arc thanks to Dream. *a whole anime starts with this kid vs. dream*
@@nickisntreal😂😂
My theory is that there are two types of people;
1. People who play the game and vote for what they want to see.
2. The people who don't play but partisipate in the vote because their favorite creator said to.
This may have swayed the vote becuase in my head the number of people using youtube and/or twitter, but not having minecraft and still voting would easly out number thwe number of people playing minecraft AND partisipating in the vote.
People who don't play or own MC should not be able to vote
@@Sceptonic That can be difficult to filter out unless they get really drastic, and it doesn't really seem worth doing that in comparison to letting it be.
It also axes some of the community from the vote which can seem gatekeep-ish.
@@deletesomething5564 They can just make you vote in the Minecraft launcher
@@emirturkmen4524 yes
@@emirturkmen4524 that's not a thing for mobile players so it'll be unfair
Just want to say, the annoying part is that Dream said he literally doesn’t care who won. I feel like the Ice Villager would have been a legitimately nice addition to the game and add to the experience. The Glow Squid is nothing except a reskin. And sure, MAYBE the other two mobs will be added down the line, but God knows when. For Dream, it was a joke, but for others, they had good reason to support the other mobs and Dream, for lack of a better word, ruined it.
Yeah, whether or not he had any meaningful influence on the results, it was his attitude about the whole thing that made it stink to high heaven.
Iceologer would also spawn in the mountains, fitting perfectly in with 1.17/1.18
I wanted the moobloom, I love making big flower gardens and it would have been nice to have a moobloom wandering in said garden. The glow squid should have been disqualified beacuse of dreams bullshit.
The iceologer is bad, but better then the damn squid..
I feel like despite his huge fanbase , he wasn't actually aware of his words could be taken serious by a huge amount of fan
Rather telling your fan what mobs/biome you voted for , why not keeping it a secret instead and revealed until the vote result out? Thats the main thing , to atleast made thing more fair than before
There's alot of issue with Dream's fanbase yes but he didnt expect that coming?
@@Cat-yo2mb I think he knew exactly what he was doing. But yeah they shouldn't say anything about their vote till it's over.
Imagine voting for a retextured squid
That does jack shit
Dream moment
Imagine tho
Replace retextured with retarded
Imagine having no father AND be adopted 💀
Humans might make mistakes, but I think some humans just are mistakes, and I think Dream is definitely one of them.
no-one has never said anything more true. personally, I thought that dream was a faker, liar, and a jerk
He was a douchebag and even refused to admit he messed up.
Yeah. He did make mistakes!
He needs to take an L!
I never understood what’s so special about that soy boy
I hate the glow squid it is so stupid don't subscribe to dream
sure the dream thing was irritating but im more pissed on just how incredibly short the votes themselves are. missed the last one by like,, 40 minutes? they should really be up for at least 24 hours to allow everyone a chance to vote :L (or just stop doing mob votes,, has anything good ever come out of them?)
Yeah we should stop mob votes
If the Glow squid only just won with all that support then imagine if no one tweeted anything, iceologer would have won easily, I feel like thats a better way of look at it than saying none of tweets matter just because the moobloom data doesnt match up, dream and tubbo have overlapping followers and theyre more likely to go with what dream says even if they like both tweets. At the end of the day no one should have tweeted at all, they know their influence, Xisuma did it the right way making a video about each and talking about pros and cons for both, he still gave his opinion on what he would vote for but doesn't rally anyone to do the same
that is definitely a fair interpretation of what happened! I wish I knew more about stats so I could understand this whole thing more
@@RetroGamingNow Could easily be wrong, im assuming a lot about tubbo and dream having 100% or close to 100% overlapping followers, maybe that didnt matter that much, loved the history video, hopefully this was a good lesson for the community about future mob votes, although this years voted didnt go too smoothly either :D
Do disagree on one front
I honestly believe the vote would have been very close if not identical outcome wise.
Moobloom never stood a chance, that wasn't dreams doing that was just logic.
Moobloom voters would have a large majority creative players and peaceful players, technical players and casual players.
None of which would want a agressive dangerous mountain mob, atleast the squid would look good in an aquarium for the builders.
If anything I'd argue that some who may have chose glow squid in second round may have voted iceolager specifically to avoid dreams "rigging"
Now I'm not saying glow squid was a definite victory, I certainly think iceolager stood a good chance and it likely would have been near 50/50 but dream (atleast in my opinion) didn't make that much of a difference (still doesn't mean he did the right thing though)
No hate, just thought I'd get my views out there and play devils advocate.
@@pineappleudh6561 Glow squid would've been the first to drop out, because it is objectively the worst. Dream boosted it from 20% to over 50%. Dream had a HUGE impact.
@@beepbop6542
Can you please explain how you know it was the worst option?
We don't know anything about the other 2 other than what was said in the videos and based on how misspeaking glow squids was I doubt the others would have been any better.
The problem is that we can never know how good or bad the other 2 would have been.
"You have three choices, boring flower cow, redundant glowing squid, or very cool ice wizard to add depth to the tundra--"
"hehe squid go shine"
Iceologer and hovering inferno would cause a MASSIVE change in the mapmaking community, bro, it would be so, so better!!
I don't think people disliked the "vote rigging" Dream made, but his attitude towards the mob vote itself. He immediately said other cc were making the same thing, when in reality many of them were either suggesting a mob or talking about "what would be the best option", while Dream explicitly told his fans to just vote for the squid and even making that infamous "following people" statement. His fans are like a cult, and he IS aware of that, but his response for that is telling everyone he was "just joking" and blame everyone else. So yeah, he wasn't precisely a saint, and although the hatred for him isn't entirely justified, I can understand why it took off so quickly.
Ngl you can stem his irrational actions in pushing forward the glow squid back to his ADHD. The hyperness, the impulsivity of his tweets do show it all
@@Hayych. excuses. He straight up said he wanted the glow squid because it would have 0 effect in the game for his speed runs.
This was extremely deliberate
@@ML-sc3pt bro why the fuck are you still caring about this issue?
@@Hayych.Dude. You can't blame everything negative on neurodivergence. I have (unmedicated) ADHD myself. His type of "humor" is not a global ADHD thing.
Imo I think this was also somewhat Mojangs fault. Each mob was very different, with one being Hostile and the other two being Passive. Not to mention each video on the mob was presented very differently. The chillager was one we had the most info on not only thru the video but also cause it was in another game, Minecraft Dungeons. The Glow Squid was the opposite though as in Minecraft Earth it was just a re-textured squid the player could collect and the video gave little and somewhat misleading info as many believed you’d be able to hypnotize others. Because of this the most known about and the most mysterious mobs made it to the end.
Compare that to this years mob vote where all the three mobs are “companion mobs” and each video tells us exactly what they do with one going towards the darkness, one going to collect items, and one pressing copper buttons. The videos where a lot clearer and more precise on what they do while still leaving a lot to the imagination.
I disagree with this year voting being better. The Allay video was just as misleading as the glow squid video. Many people (including myself initially) thought upon seeing video that the Allay's mechanic was some kind of item duplication, to the point that the developers had to explain on Twitter what it ACTUALLY did.
I'd also argue that it was explained what the three mobs did, but not how they worked. The Glare and the Copper Golem's functions were simple enough that it didn't really matter, but the Allay's function is more complex and I feel that more details should have been given.
Yes, definitely. 2021 had a clear shift towards all three mobs being of a similar type. I have no doubt that was an intentional change by Mojang
@@borico62 I also thought at first that the Allay was a duplicator, and decided to have my vote on it. When I heard it wont duplicate, only gather dropped items, i remained firm on Allay.
But I switched to Copper Boi cause he was a brand new golem, we never had any new golem mobs since 1.2. Despite that, I promised myself if Allay won instead of Copper BoI, I wouldnt hold a grudge and be upset, cause I knew the Allay was the superior choice, but I voted Copper Boi in the end cause I wanted another golem.
The only thing I like about the glow squid is how it’s ink sacs make signs glow. But I guarantee that would’ve been added in a later update (Maybe if you combined blaze powder with an ink sac). The Chilliger will always be my 2020 mob vote.
In both rounds, it was a close call for the mobs. If no creator would have tweeted anything about the mobs, I am sure the result would have been totally different.
Dream somehow didn't understand that by him being the BIGGEST minecraft creator he has quite the fan base to follow in his footsteps for voting
I remember this so vividly, to be fair this mob vote wasn't the best compared to 2021. The influencers promoting mobs I feel was mostly innocent, community engagement and features they genuinely wanted in the game, except for Dream, he openly admitted he was doing it out of spite (regardless of opinions on the glow squid or if he unfairly swayed it) and did some rather underhanded tactics to do so, so yeah, at least he learned his lesson, though there was a rather tense period before Minecon 2021 until he finally backed off.
Yeah, sometimes people forget how they impact other people's lives, especially if they have some kind of power and influence
What is it with the votes and adding shitty blue mobs
@@nanuqo2006 ikr we already have 5 floating blue mobs
1. Squid
2. Glow squid
3. Phantom
4. Vex
5. Allay
And also illusioner if you count his clones floating
You're ascribing spite to him. Spiteful of who? That's complete hyperbole. What he actually said was that he did it because he thought it was funny, and he chose the squid because he still thought it was the best.
*Dream slowly approaching to the Minecraft HQ to rig their entire mob vote:*
I was really hoping that the iceologer was gonna be added, and if you started a raid in a snowy village, the iceologer would be in one of the final waves
The data does suggest that, in a vacuum with no influencer involvment, Iceologer PROBABLY would have edged out a narrow victory
I think they should stop the mob votes, with how many people get left disappointed, not even because any twitter drama, but because the mobs themselves arent exactly great
the mobs for the mob vote always feel like something they designed last second 😭
People who play on mods aren't left disappointed.
In my 1.16.5 modded Minecraft I have all of those mobs + the new ones from 1.19.
@@Nekoszowa yep i rarely play vanilla because its pretty disappointing
Yeah the mobs in the votes haven't even been that interesting ever since the one with the phantom and the other big hostile mobs :/ at least the allay is better than the glow squid though that's not saying much since the glow squid is one of the worst possible mobs since it doesn't even do what it's name says it will do...
Imo if Minecraft really needed to do a mob vote, they shouldn't make it so that you choose whatever gets to be in the game and the others get scrapped; they should make it so that the community can choose which mob should be added first, second, third.
There's so much missing potential with the glow squid. To have maybe a rare variant of the squid that is hostile and locks your camera so you can't look away and maybe that would cause you too move.
Mojang has not done a great job keeping the mob vote reveals centered on things that will actually be a part of what we get, which helps make the entire affair extraneous and useless. It happened again with this year's vote, with people misinterpreting things in the video, like the bee armor in the background of the copper golem's video for no good reason, and then thinking somehow that the allay was an item duper (as if Mojang would deliberately add a general item dupe to Minecraft...) - Anyone who thought the glowsquid might've had a dangerous mesmerizing effect on the player was totally justified, because that's what they unwittingly depicted in the video.
That sounds like such a cool idea tbh
I don't know about that, it seems really annoying and intrusive.
I do agree though that there's missed potential with the glow squid, but more in the glow ink sac item than the actual squid itself. Emissive textures and the ability to use and even manipulate them in vanilla would be incredibly useful in builds, especially now when everyone's building cave houses where lighting is much more complex and large dark areas with smaller spots of light in them often enhance builds.
But we only got to use the glow ink for signs that don't let you make cool designs out of the textures and item frames that half the time don't even look glowy because the entity shading on them is messed up.
it would be neat if the squid worked kinda like that one fish from Subnautica that hypnotizes you, the missed potential here is insane
@@feralroomba about that
ua-cam.com/video/cgK9XWSU0mI/v-deo.html
The thing I would like to point out is that the creators who were voting Moobloom but switched to Glow Squid probably did so because of their connections to Dream. We do know that their tweets didn't actually make a significant difference but I feel that was worth pointing out.
I don't understand that, why would I kiss someones ass so much that I need to vote for the mob they want added?
I will always vote for the mob I want added, if Jesus Christ himself came down to earth and said "Hey man, can you vote for Mob A instead of Mob B?" I would say "Sorry Jesus, not gonna happen."
@@SisyphusSRB Stans and fanatics are so obsessed with Dream that they'll do anything he says. If he said to give him their credit card info and social security number, they would.
The moobloom losing was such a devastating moment geniunely the start of my villain origin story
Still hoping the lceologer get's added at a later date D:
don’t know why a billion dollar company can’t add both a half assed retexture and a genuine new mob
@@jooot_6850 yeah just add them all
All hail the chillager!
@@jooot_6850 TRRRUUUEEEE
@@HappyhipposMC Yessir!!!
I can't believe how intense this was, it was the piss cow, the glow squid and the iceolager..
piss cow, you’re done.
It was so fucking cute.
I was #TeamPissCow. The superior mob
Don’t diss moobloom
The Chillager
@@themanwhowouldbebrick we didnt need another source of beef
It’s insane to me that the glow in the dark squid was picked over a new mob that uses ice magic and a new cow that interacts with the environment
do not forget that it also means the amount of votes for iceologer was much more pure than glow squid
since it had the least content creators supporting it but it got much more votes
There were so many smaller UA-camrs that did
Captain Sparklez, xQc are smaller now?
@@valiant..6both of them are smaller than dream, do you not check?
@@Konmonachi 2020 Mr detective. xQc had more influence than dream prior to the mob vote. And so did Sparklez, And so did DanTDM. Dream is obviously bigger now but they were more established than Dream in 2020.
@@valiant..6 you’re wrong about the influence part, but ofc he had similar followers because others come before him. Dream already have toxic fanbase when he became popular and it’s very clear for what i remember.
I'm of the opinion that Mojang doesn't do these votes as a genuine way to get player input, as much as they are a way to essentially "force" people into watching MC Live/Earth. That's the only reason I can think of for not implementing a more practical voting system in the game client or launcher for a week or so like other games (runescape, TF2 in the heavy vs. pyro vote, ect.) do. It also doesn't help that descriptions of the options at times can be vague.
Honestly I'd watch MC live just for the new update announcements.
to me the big issue with them is that the votes are easily swayed by popular figures,ultimately the goal of a vote is to allow each person to give HIS OR HER thoughts on the topic not some influencers thoughts on it who was so famous most of the crowd followed them. Sure it is possible that those people would go with it anyway regardless of influence but they wont likely think critically on what will be the most beneficial/fun/productive choice if they are influenced.
i am aware it was a joke,but frankly i think that this kind of humor is a bit disruptive in the sense that he tipped a scale in his favor, even as a joke thats not fair to otherses opinion.
@@aricreech498 I mean yeah, that's how voting works, you ever seen an election?
"it's all in good fun" but continues to call anyone who didn't vote for glow squid a "loser". I agree with other sentiment that Dream is irresponsible and immature as are many members of his fan base. These are the type of people that give gaming a bad reputation for a myriad of reasons. RGN's effort to come to an amicable understanding of the entire situation will only bolster future efforts from Dream and or Dream-like content creators to further interfere in future votes. The most infuriating thing about it is that in the end, he just confirms how inconsiderate he really is by admitting he did it for a laugh. He didn't even care who won or what happened, but he did it because he could. He took what was meant to be a fun fair event that requires fan participation to further develop a beloved video game the way THEY want it to develop and trivialized it because he thought it would be funny. His actions regardless of the intent were still deliberate. He didn't just "tweeted to VOTE SQUID" he provided an incentive to undermine the entire process. Had he said nothing more than "vote squid" over and over again there would have been no problem. Whether or not he made good on his promise for incentive is a moot point because he still added that factor to the decision making of the people who voted.
This is what bothers me about Dream the most, even if he didn't rig the vote the fact that his followup response was "it was funny to me so who cares" just shows how immature he is. He has no sense of responsibility with his audience and influence. I get that he's just some kid who became famous overnight but that doesn't excuse his actions.
@@niharsheth this is one of the many reasons I dislike dream. The guy doesn't think before he acts. Not to mention his denial of fucking cheating during a speedrun. The guy uses his fanbase as a weapon for his own gain
@@themangledwither he also plays his audience into making them think he actually gives af about them because if he did he would tell them to not worship him like a Jesus figure
@@christianmirzaian1985 only reason he pretends to care about his fanbase is because they make him money.
TL;DR
Dumb it down for me plz
I think Minecraft should do an official version of what the Minecraft origin realms server does: before a mob vote, add all candidates to the game so people can test them out and then make an educated choice.
Dream aside: I wonder what Hbomberguy voted for.
i have a personal distaste for Glow Squids because they keep on spawning and clog up my spider dungeon farm since it has water in it, and i always have to manually break into it to get rid of them.
Honestly it would be cool if they'd add all 3 new mobs instead of having people vote. Sure, it's nice from a community engagement perspective, but it's sad to miss out on potential content and to see people being mad about their favorite not getting chosen
Honestly the vote should just be about "which one do we add first?" not "which one do we add? the rest will be deleted forever". So much potential content gone to waste.
@@rayleo9940 and don’t make me the mobs insanely different.
Game design is rarely that easy. If they were to stop the votes, it’s more likely that Mojang would decide which one got in themselves
I remember that day when the glow squid won. I wish the moo bloom would've won. That would have been so cute!
Same. I miss it even though it never existed
Me too ;^;
It stings even more cuz I just got a Lego set with a MooBloom and it’s not even in the game… At
Least it’s cute tho 🙂
I personally like chilliger the best, but I also really liked the Moobloom too!
typical woman
The worst part is all of this is that we got the objectively worst mob out of the whole thing. (Though if you like the glow squid, that’s cool)
No you're right, they suck LOL
The only reason they might be good is because of the glowing text on signs thing because that can be useful, but compared to what the other mobs could have been, Glow Squids are honestly just something pretty to look at...
true. How tf does that effect the game !?
@@Anime_skyit doesn’t. U didn’t watch the full video did u 🤦♀️
Typical kawaii’s
@@mozbek7166 no, I watched the whole video.
@@mozbek7166this guy doesnt know what a rhetorical question is
Dream wanted the glow squid so that he could speed run without interruptions as they don’t do crap (glow squid)
Yup talk about selfish
Ngl that green masked Florida man really pisses me off
@@ML-sc3ptuh why do u want to talk about urself?
Oh and also, he wants to keep his viewers interested. He hardly ever does speed runs anymore so deal with it
@@mozbek7166 found the Stan
He voted for the mob that added the least just for himself
I think you need to look at peoples options before Dream’s interaction. Because it looked to me like the glow squid was dead last. Personally I wanted moobloom but I was sure it would lose to the ice guy.
I remember that vote, and a java player suggested had suggested glow squid because they thought they might drop glow dust. This really highlights why explaining the pros and cons of a new mob up front is really important. And I think they did a reasonable job of that in the latest mob vote. It's not just about what the mobs are, but what the mobs do for the player.
They should just add all three instead of adding a vote
This vote only ever causes drama
I think the type of support matters. Dream was very supportive of the glow squid and, while he made it a joke, his joke was based on reality. Tommy made the MooBloom a joke, but by calling it a Piss Cow really made it seem like he didn't take it serious and was there to troll.
As someone who wasn't there for the vote it's good to see someone going in depth on what actually happened, I thought it was just dream telling people to vote
Honestly tho I thought that the Glow Squid was going to hypnotize the mobs and it would've been a way to populate the deep sea areas not because of dream but I didn't actually partake in the poll but still
yeah, whoever directed the animation must have not realised that people thought hypnotising would be a real feature haha
@@TheFlyfly
Nevermind the people who thought we would also be getting scuba gear (sounds dumb but it happened)
I really feel they should actually showcase the mobs, or atleast Write down what they actually are considering for these mobs.
@@pineappleudh6561 they do write short articles about the mobs on the minecraft website. it seems most people dont know about it, though
@@TheFlyfly
Even then they don't tell you anything the videos don't, they just clear a few things up.
The problem is they are trying to make jokes and tell a story when they should be telling us actual information.
If they actually want to do something informative and entertaining, make the mob showcase a nature documentary that would be interesting and more informative, and please spend more than 2 minutes on each mob, if they really need release the short videos as introductions to the mobs and short summaries.
@@pineappleudh6561 yeah and its good that they clear things up. that way you'll know what youre voting for. i dont really see why you want anything elaborate from the mob vote, its just meant to be a minor addition to minecraft that doesnt change the game hugely
I think that a smart thing for Mojang to do would be a form of “Influencer enforcement”.
By this, I mean don’t mean that people like Dream don’t get a voice. Every one should be able to voice their opinion.
What I mean is that influencers cannot *bribe* people with followers.
I like Captain Sparklz’s approach, he made a point on twitter, an argument for and against. What Dream did was something else, he started by nominating the Glow Squid which was fine, towards the end he practically flooded the system with bribes.
A more extreme view of that vote would be that he ending up corrupting the system.
and how would they do something like that?
I will sacrifice every glowsquid in existence in hopes of bringing the iceologer back to the mob votes and eventually earn its long-overdue win.
i just imagined you in an epic minecraft animation montage running slashing caving slashing par core slashing then dragging the parts of the glowsquid with you back to your base with glowing track marks following you then your back to the camera while you're in front of a crafting table hacking sounds buzzing sounds lights flashing and then FINALLY you turn around and there is a frakeniceologer on the bed next to the crafting table and thunder and lightening charge the house's copper lightening rod sending a charge directly to him and he slowly gets up as you laugh crazily LMAO! i need to go to bed i may need sleep lol
@@anitacrumbly LMAO I wish I could animate something like that.
I have a personal feeling that Mojang's vague descriptions and mild suggestions to what each mob may do in the game was a pretty big oversight on their part and lead to some of the ensuing drama. For an example, I myself was looking forward to learning about and interacting with the mob hypnosis that the glow squids were seemingly going to posses as they showed in the mob preview.. however that never came. Looking forward, though, it seems that Mojang actually realized this to a degree, and they explained each of the mobs abilities in the latest mob vote from this year (Allay, Glare, and Copper Golem)
I loved the moobloom years before this vote. And back then, it was promised to be added to minecraft.
Didn’t age well
There's still hope💛🧡💛
I feel like if Dream responded with his last tweet first he would of gotten less heat, the fact he tried joking about it first didn't go to well with the people
the results are like this because the chillager is most fitting to be a mob and its what most non twitter users voted for but dream was enough to keep the glowsquid ahead of the vote
There should be advertising moratorium so that you aren't influenced. I decided from the 3 mojang vids what to vote, I personally think that everyone should follow their guts and vote what THEY want and not get influenced, political voting is similar, you vote the party you want to win because what they present is what is appealing to you, not because some random person with a few million followers said you should do something. Think for your self.
Sad. It is a reflection of real life voting and how influencers, rich people, or the media influence people who can't think for themselves who to vote for.
I think that would be awesome! Unfortunately, it's just not enforceable. Even if it isn't done with malicious intent, it's tough for content creators to say nothing. After all, I made my thoughts known on the 2021 vote, so I've done it myself. However, there is definitely a fine line between support and manipulation, and it's tough to know where you fall.
I still think the squid is unimpressive, although the glow ink on signs is very nice, and almost makes up for it
Dream better start speed running because the nightmares are coming for him
Based
These tweets sound as though the Glow Squid took over Dream's mind and granted itself existence. Also, Sparklez was right, the Iceologer would've been a welcome addition.
Im gonna be honest, the mob vote *might* be the dumbest thing for Minecraft
I hate the glow squid so much, that I will immediately kill it when I see it. No matter if that I would need to jump down to a ravine, you know I am killing that thing
Same
Hahaha. Yeah. They totally mess up the vibe of my seaside builds.
I try to find creative ways to kill it
I am going to make glow squids an endangered species
Damn bro
The thing is, the Iceologer didn't have the voice support, but rather the actual players invested voting for it, where as Moobloom and Glow Squid have loud voices, but Moobloom comes out 3rd, and Glow Squid being a close race against the voiceless Iceologer
I'll be honest, the first things I did when 1.17 came out were getting the glow squid spawning egg and spawning them rapidly over lava and the void
I am a person who don't stick to community.
Only one thing I wanna say is: Glow Squid is not very useful.
I still prefer Iceologer to the others and have a COOL adventure.
But I saw someone mentioned that Iceologer will be the next Phantom to annoy players.
Then we couldn't see any aggressive mob in the last vote.
I feel little unfair about that.
That sounds very similar to some comments I made last year. I deeply apologize if it was. I am a changed man now
At least the squid looks impressive and helps to light up text.....
I like it
@@VIII-SINCHANCHATTERJEE That's one reason why I wanted the Glow Squid. Another reason is for more variety.
I remember voting for glow squid instead of the chillager because getting neon lights and signs was more likely than getting ice magic added
@@GracemarieJohnson Variety in passive mobs would be nice, but I thought it was just going to be like the bat and polar bear, completely useless except for so. The icologer was the only one guaranteed interesting mechanics.
The Moobloom was widely requested to be added to the game from the _second_ it was added to Minecraft Earth. No one cared even a little bit for the Iceologer or Glow Squid until the vote.
The Moobloom would've come with the "buttercup" flower. Real-life buttercups are not only deadly poisons if ingested, just touching it can cause irritation to the skin.
They would've had a unique friendly relationship with Bees. This would be the first-ever friendly relationship between two mobs in the entire game, opening the door for more in the future.
The addition of the Moobloom would also impact the lore, adding to the pre-existent connection between cows and flowers, flowers and potions, and parasites like the ones plaguing Mooshrooms.
It'd also bring more attention to the underappreciated Flower Forest biome. And these are just the things we _know_ would happen- All the other mobs were liked on the basis of things that people thought COULD be added, despite no implication to them being the case- I could list a myriad of things that _could've_ been added along with the Moobloom, such as it spawning in Lush Caves (introducing an underground food source) or it being accompanied by the Moolip (a pink-daisy variant of the Moobloom) and more.
The Iceologer may have been a cool (no pun intended) obstacle, but the Glow Squid was very obviously the objectively worst option, just there fill space.
Iceologer would be the first mob that used blocks to attack
@@nanuqo2006 No, it'd probably have used an entity, like its Dungeons counterpart.
@@CharaViolet Its still a block.
@@nanuqo2006 By that metric, so are slimes and shulkers...
@@CharaViolet If entities aren’t blocks then a Chest isn’t a block
Which it is
Also those are mobs lol
Just imagine mobloom is in Minecraft 😭😭😭
The only way mojang fix this mob is by making it have high light source
Hey Retro! I feel like now that your deep dives are more developed maybe you'd revisit the Shulkers.
1. The shulkers share the eye brow of golems
2. In the game files the Shulkers are called endergolem
3. As you mentioned there was a hole in the theory as they don't drop pearls
So perhaps armed with this revelation you could revisit the shulkers which seem to fit so loosely in your otherwise very concrete theories!
Thanks for the consideration
ender golem!??! thats interesting
I hate how immature dream’s arguments are. It just sucks how he doesn’t take a vote that affects the game forever serious. It just really bothers me.
He's 20 something and still acts like a 15 year old. He KNOWS what he's doing. He KNOWS his fanbase is toxic, but will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop this toxic cycle.
ngl it has his ADHD written all over it haha
@@Hayych. rude lol i have adhd i get at 20 being dumb i think it's not real because he can't see his fanbase that might be adhd but to see people upset by your actions and genuinely not care or to cheat and to be rude that's just being a jerk no adhd required
It's literally a childrens game
@@pisscow6395I’m not even going to guess ur age anymore bcuz I don’t want to believe ur alive
I wouldve loved how the bees and the moobloom interact with each other.
and Chillager would have been an awesome mob to fight or avoid in my case cuz I cant fight T~T
but the glowsquid- I guess glowing signs would be cool but- I wish they could hypnotize the player and maybe potentially make them drown to death.
Should have been done on the actual minecraft website
Besides this situation, I think the vote was pretty poor. With 2/3 mobs being a literal reskin, the move there would've been adding the 3 mobs at once or at least confirm them in next updates. That vote and this year's one didn't make another thing but to separate the community for stupid reasons...
@@nullarcana yep. i really hate how the mob votes divide the community, it creates SO MUCH toxicity.
And it really shouldn’t be that hard to add all of them with this, just two reskins and a new mob pretty much. I know more goes into it, but they have such a big team, and the toxicity is definitely NOT worth it.
Thats a good point
yes! the glow squid and the moobloom wouldnt take as much time to add as the iceologer so it makes sense to vote for the ice dude and wait a bit for the easier mobs to be added, but that’s not how this works sadly.
glow squid, reskin provides no light and makes basically no change except for better text
I voted for the glow squid without even knowing Dream was backing it. I thought (and still think) it’s a beautiful mob, and that would be diminished somewhat if it gave out light. The iceoleger would have just made mountains a real pain and the moobloom was fine but flower forests are in need of extra life less than oceans.
@GreenBlueScreen Yeah I know that, but at the time of the vote they were to be put in the ocean, at least to the best of our knowledge.
I feel the next 2 votes after this, youtubers have been a lot more quiet
As they should be.