Bannerlord spear brace vs cav charge event

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • thank you to the clans that coordinated the event, I joined very late into it, but still got some footage

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  • @galvatron0810
    @galvatron0810 3 роки тому +238

    There's always that one guy to fuck up a formation

    • @iyimsermuhabir
      @iyimsermuhabir Рік тому +1

      I was looking for you who would save me to bother making that comment. 🎉

  • @hyperborean7248
    @hyperborean7248 3 роки тому +594

    I like how we are this deprived of content that a simpel thing like spear bracing is a good enough reason for an event

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  3 роки тому +65

      you gotta live with what you have

    • @rum9138
      @rum9138 3 роки тому +14

      Rabbi, you don't know how right you are when you made this post

    • @marcinzysko1653
      @marcinzysko1653 3 роки тому +19

      *starts laughing*
      *laughing turns into crying*
      *crying intensifies*

    • @slippy5801
      @slippy5801 3 роки тому +3

      a simple thing like a spear bracing conquered persia

    • @BattlerEvil
      @BattlerEvil 3 роки тому +6

      @@slippy5801 umm.. everyone braced spears. You mean more like pikes lmao

  • @Chan-pc1gh
    @Chan-pc1gh 4 роки тому +379

    Good, justice for footsoldiers. Otherwise , cavalry units always win.

    • @krieger7828
      @krieger7828 3 роки тому +18

      Viking conquest did it right

    • @fleivor5359
      @fleivor5359 3 роки тому +3

      @@krieger7828 there are cavalry units in that game?

    • @krieger7828
      @krieger7828 3 роки тому +6

      @@fleivor5359 Yes but they are more balanced than in Native

    • @michasokoowski6651
      @michasokoowski6651 3 роки тому +23

      Well, a footsoldier is just a one person.
      Cavalry unit is a soldier on a big animal...
      So yeah, they are stronger.

    • @TaylorGerrior
      @TaylorGerrior 3 роки тому +1

      I always had them tightly packed in box shapes when well out numbers, even against cav and still managed to cling to victory. This update will definitely help keep the deaths low though.

  • @TheMadmanAndre
    @TheMadmanAndre 3 роки тому +212

    You're gonna want to put heavy infantry right behind them for when the cavalry get knocked off and get up to slaughter the pikemen.
    Also gives a reason to remind players that cavalry can dismount. Unmounted cavalry will massacre pikemen.

    • @nilsingvar7319
      @nilsingvar7319 3 роки тому +7

      Depends if they are evenly matched in numbers. Fighting several spearmen is always a hassle.

    • @granityseis104
      @granityseis104 3 роки тому +18

      @@nilsingvar7319 no,spears suck in close combat in this game,even t3 unit can beat vlandian pikeman which it t5 unit

    • @TuDeDaTe
      @TuDeDaTe 3 роки тому +8

      @@granityseis104 yeah, spears and pikes feel like sticks in this game, very clunky ones aswel. They should be buffed or maybe ai just should be better with it.

    • @rohan1_
      @rohan1_ 3 роки тому +15

      @@TuDeDaTe the problem is their minimum effective range is huge, whereas basically any one-hander infantry thrives inside of that range, but spears don’t have the DPS to put down an enemy before they close the distance (especially against a shield, which virtually every one hander infantry will have)
      One possible solution is to make AI soldiers actually use shield bash and other stuns. Another is to make the shield hit boxes less insanely generous (which they should do anyway, it’s absolutely ridiculous how little the hit box matches the model)

    • @TuDeDaTe
      @TuDeDaTe 3 роки тому +5

      @@rohan1_ yeah but spears need to be able to keep your enemy at some range, beyond their reach but not yours, thats how it used irl

  • @hushpool3915
    @hushpool3915 3 роки тому +67

    Yeah, spears are good to put down horses, but in close combat, when heavy knights get up on their feet, they suck balls. Only Viking Conquest fixed it. Spears and javelins are basically one of the best combinations there, because you can use them as footman with shield, as cavalry, and even as range weapon. Block, move forward, thrust, back, repeat. If you lost your shileld, swing your spear like a madman.

    • @Fulgrim_The_Phoenician
      @Fulgrim_The_Phoenician 3 роки тому +1

      Most of the Cavalry die on first impact. Those who get dismounted are then outnumbered and killed fast.

    • @thiagorodrigues5211
      @thiagorodrigues5211 3 роки тому +4

      I personally don't understand why they made pikes shit against infantry. Remember that Epirus fought with pikemen and even Rome lost to their unbreakable formations

    • @nomore1088
      @nomore1088 3 роки тому

      @@thiagorodrigues5211 Epirus only won by a inch and is famous for the fact that he won every battle by so little that he lost the war.

    • @thiagorodrigues5211
      @thiagorodrigues5211 3 роки тому +4

      @@nomore1088 he still won with pike formations, didn't he. Against gladius and shield wielding infantry so, it's clear that such formations were effective. And by 1400, same formations were used but now with polearms

    • @mckitsune7600
      @mckitsune7600 Рік тому

      @@thiagorodrigues5211 technically the real deciding factor of both victory's against Rome was his elephants witch shattered the roman morale and it is said that if the elephants had not been present the romans had a very good chance of winning

  • @HoangTran-wu6se
    @HoangTran-wu6se 3 роки тому +36

    I mean in real life it works kinda like that, spear bracing does not protect the infantry, it can only slow the momentum of the calvary while killing the first or two line of calvary, the momentum will stop after 3-4 line of infantry IF they don't break and run away, the Frontline of the infantry will still get fucked.

    • @DragonForKrosa
      @DragonForKrosa 3 роки тому +10

      In real life horses don't charge at a formation of pike/spear. Because they'r not stupid and don't wanna die.
      Problem was, to keep an actual formation without panic/routing, a difficult task when you are facing an heavy cav charge

    • @HoangTran-wu6se
      @HoangTran-wu6se 3 роки тому +1

      @@DragonForKrosa yup, I heard that the rider may cover the eyes of the horses when charging into spear.

    • @xezqeznunya6671
      @xezqeznunya6671 Рік тому +1

      In real life it isn't a spear wall if it is not 5+ ranks deep and the calvary don't make it through, riders a long with horse are impaled from the 2nd and 3rd rows of spears

    • @GuardHouse-so1xl
      @GuardHouse-so1xl Рік тому +2

      after a few horse and riders get dropped in the front the bodies dont despawn like in a game. you then have to jump over your dead friends just to land on a pike.

    • @Red-jl7jj
      @Red-jl7jj Рік тому

      @@DragonForKrosa Horses do charge at pikes, spears, and bayonets. It is a myth that they do not.

  • @nuriozer3405
    @nuriozer3405 4 роки тому +20

    how do u make the pikes brace i can never get it to work. is it only in the beta?

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  4 роки тому +15

      currently it's only in 1.5.0 (beta branch) and works only in multiplayer.

    • @granityseis104
      @granityseis104 3 роки тому +1

      it did get come to single in 1.6.2

  • @huanhuynhngocgia2312
    @huanhuynhngocgia2312 3 роки тому +14

    -The best way to kill your cavalry is charging them in to spearman, get your man out of there

  • @eneskesicioglu3907
    @eneskesicioglu3907 3 роки тому +8

    hey it came to singleplayer now

  • @kevlarburrito6693
    @kevlarburrito6693 Рік тому +4

    Always at least one whose gotta be an individual and look away at the last second lol

  • @lilkurva180
    @lilkurva180 3 роки тому +10

    Wish cav could run through men knocking them over and destroying weak likes of infantry istead of just clipping and stopping on impact. Such a ruined immersion

    • @nopda4095
      @nopda4095 3 роки тому

      you can download a mod which i forgot its name where if you charge infanries with horses they will fall down or fly away depending on your horse weight and speed and you deal a lot of charge damage as well it was a good mod but cant remember the name

    • @baeromir
      @baeromir 3 роки тому

      @@nopda4095 it's called don't stop me now

    • @lilkurva180
      @lilkurva180 3 роки тому

      @@nopda4095 dang thats something Ima get. Sucks that its not in the basegame though. But thanks for that. I just kinda hate how static the battles feel compared to a gritty slaughter a battle is, or how crazy an actual cavalry charge is.

    • @suomusintti
      @suomusintti 3 роки тому

      Cav was running uphill but come on, how can one man stop over 500kg / 1100lbs animal just by standing still

  • @lurkingdemon7749
    @lurkingdemon7749 Рік тому +2

    0:06 theres always some goofy thwak messing up the formation..

  • @PaperiLiidokki
    @PaperiLiidokki 3 роки тому +2

    Mean while Khuzait horse archers just laugh

  • @Tiger4ever89
    @Tiger4ever89 Рік тому +2

    late for the party.. but is better to put big shields in front to block the dmg
    and pike few feet behind to clean them while they pass through

  • @dogwithnobones906
    @dogwithnobones906 Рік тому +1

    Maybe the polearm should break if it's speed bonus reaches above 100 because I think most weapons would've broke!

  • @afalk1024
    @afalk1024 Рік тому +1

    Open source armory mod has shoulder strapped shields, so you can use spears and pikes two handed while your shield can still protect you. I dont see why this wasnt done more historically, Macedonian pikemen aside, as being able to thrust with two hands is obviously more effective.

  • @mivapusa
    @mivapusa Рік тому +1

    And this is why you have a block of pikes, not just a single line

  • @chocho6766
    @chocho6766 Рік тому

    it stop charge but after that they suck lol , it's so much better to use vaulgier and use body to stop charge , two handed weopen is very effective again mounted

  • @atklcreator2982
    @atklcreator2982 Рік тому

    Dumb charge it left with cavalry not directly front.

  • @yasineren3166
    @yasineren3166 Рік тому +1

    how do you use spear like that?

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  Рік тому

      stand still, press X while holding a spear/pike

  • @therealsovietbear2700
    @therealsovietbear2700 3 роки тому +1

    0:07 Don't be the idiot that breaks formation to whack someone

  • @TheAzorg
    @TheAzorg Рік тому +1

    the only thing i need officially added to the game (not through mods) is gunpowder weapons...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    and the ability to craft your own armor / cloth pieces
    or both!

    • @jessegauthier6985
      @jessegauthier6985 Рік тому

      Gunpowder weapons in a game inspired by the migration period? That would be silly

    • @TheAzorg
      @TheAzorg Рік тому

      @@jessegauthier6985 some blunderbusses / early muscets would be alright. The more troops wielding those, the better as they had poor accuracy but you're probably right

    • @jessegauthier6985
      @jessegauthier6985 Рік тому

      @@TheAzorg The game has a fine aesthetic. Too few games embrace a migration-era setting. There are literal tens of thousands of games out there with guns.

  • @eduardoledesma5568
    @eduardoledesma5568 3 роки тому +1

    It took a year to ge it on the regular game.

  • @dronad6125
    @dronad6125 Рік тому

    Why are spears braced in a single line instead of having others behind them?

  • @danheboy
    @danheboy Рік тому

    oh, so this is why spearmen have bonus damage to cavalry in Age of Empires

  • @Birkebeiner1066
    @Birkebeiner1066 3 роки тому +9

    Meanwhile the OG Warband players actually put effort into timing their stabs just right

    • @ahmadtarek7763
      @ahmadtarek7763 3 роки тому +2

      It's extremely satisfying when you time it right and watch the corpse ragdoll off the horse.

    • @Birkebeiner1066
      @Birkebeiner1066 3 роки тому

      @@ahmadtarek7763 I personally prefer killing the horse and stabbing the rider to death as he struggles to get up

  • @ahmadtarek7763
    @ahmadtarek7763 3 роки тому +2

    Didn't this already exist in many warband mods? Like anno domini for example.

  • @benjaminostrom9124
    @benjaminostrom9124 Рік тому

    Damn events truly has gone down hill since warband

  • @dwarfbard6226
    @dwarfbard6226 3 роки тому +4

    Still waiting for a game that does pikemen right.

    • @hushpool3915
      @hushpool3915 3 роки тому +2

      Well, actually, in M&B : Viking Conquest and in Mount & Blade : With Fire and Sword they are pretty neat against cavalry (in F&S only hired with heavy armor and Sweden are badass even in defending castles, because they have insane range of strike).

  • @liamanderson2710
    @liamanderson2710 Рік тому

    An army of horse archers solves that

  • @GothicLeviathan
    @GothicLeviathan Рік тому

    How do you get them to brace?

  • @michasokoowski6651
    @michasokoowski6651 3 роки тому +2

    You have to be a fool to charge a light cavalry to a spear brace...

  • @Берсерк-ы1ф
    @Берсерк-ы1ф 3 роки тому

    почему боты так не могут аааааааааааааааааааааааа

  • @Kyrtap192
    @Kyrtap192 Рік тому

    What gamę is it?

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  Рік тому +1

      Mount and blade: Bannerlord

  • @kimsabsab
    @kimsabsab 3 роки тому

    spear brace is really good update

  • @Brutik5
    @Brutik5 3 роки тому +1

    Maybe charging straight into pikes isn't the best idea.

  • @berkaykayaseker9734
    @berkaykayaseker9734 3 роки тому

    1 year old? Isnt that a new feature?

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  3 роки тому +2

      it's a new feature for the AI to be capable of using it, bracing it self has been a feature in multiplayer for an year now

  • @SufferXxx3
    @SufferXxx3 Рік тому +1

    Which buttons to do, spear, brace in console, ps btw

  • @RAMENn00dleb0y
    @RAMENn00dleb0y 3 роки тому

    We can move while couched now? Very nice.

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  3 роки тому +2

      you can do that by pressing capslock, which makes your character walk

  • @getemguapo_tv
    @getemguapo_tv Рік тому

    How do you set up pikemen to do that formation? Im still kind of new to the game.. Pls go easy on me lol

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  Рік тому +1

      in singleplayer pikemen will do this automatically when they detect cavalry charging at them, but it helps to mantain them in a stationaty position and not in ''charge''

    • @getemguapo_tv
      @getemguapo_tv Рік тому

      @@XDarons so having a mix of vladian sergeants and some pikemen is good bro?

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  Рік тому

      @@getemguapo_tv if I'm not mistaken, vlandian seargents also can perform a spear brace (they put their shields on their back first), so I wouldn't say it's currently worth it to have pikemen in your formations, they are bad at melee and lack shields for dealing with archers.
      if you are running mods like realistic battle mod they can be very useful though.

    • @getemguapo_tv
      @getemguapo_tv Рік тому

      @@XDarons thank you bro for the info🙏💯

  • @k1kk0ssbm13
    @k1kk0ssbm13 3 роки тому +1

    This game would be great if it could pull off a stable 30 fps at least...

    • @projectover3223
      @projectover3223 3 роки тому

      i have a 700€ PC plus a 200 € graphics card and it works perfectly

    • @Fulgrim_The_Phoenician
      @Fulgrim_The_Phoenician 3 роки тому +3

      Try playing it on something other than a Mac or Potato. Stable 90 fps on ultra setting, 1000 troops on field. Mediocre Pc.

    • @Jompo92
      @Jompo92 3 роки тому

      Try playing older mount and blade, like warband.

  • @DanDan-ce3xk
    @DanDan-ce3xk 3 роки тому +1

    Are those the ai?

    • @XDarons
      @XDarons  3 роки тому +3

      no, that was a multiplayer match