I was just starting to organize my new Maker space and was struggling with the small to large gap with gridfinity. At the same time i discovered this channel and this video. Serendipity at its finest
One thing that has helped me a lot with cables is a simple ziplock bag. The use of the ziplock bag keeps the cables from getting tangled with each other. I take each cable (no more than 3 cables of the same kind in a single bag, else tangling might occur) and place it in a bag, using a sharpie to indicate what the cable is for. These can be tossed in a box with zero concern for tangling. It would be great to see how a grid system could be added to this to better organize things. Keep going, Katie; I love your creative (artistic) engineering approaches.
Brilliant idea - I love these sorts of elegant and simple solutions - as you say, it completely tackles the issue of tangling of cables! Thank you for your kind comments too!
for cables I use the tubes from toilet paper. I found that rolls of cables easily turn into knots. If you fold them back and forth, you can put them into tubes (or use cable ties instead). You can place the tubes in vertical orientation in boxes. If you keep the connectors on top, you always see which cable it is.
Honestly I think she's an actress and there's a team of people behind preparing the content. Unless she's a genius engineer and artist, capable of freehand video shooting of herself from a distance, printing printfarm-scalw jobs on 1 printer, a lifting expert, goood mechanical engineer with many design capabilities, programmer, reasonable electric engineer, good actress in front of the camera, etc. Still it's a very good content, very open source oriented, pro-social and beneficial, 👍👍👏
@@oakld How fucking rude to reduce her to a sock puppet. All because it's too hard for you to believe that a woman has spent a lot of time and effort developing these skills, unlike you
I'm glad I found this video. I had also settled on french cleats + multiboard + gridfinity. Neogrid seems like the missing link for what I've been using milk crates for. I'm excited to start with it.
Oh my God I love so much that you unified four separate open standards! That's cool as hell. I just moved this weekend. I was already planning on doing more Gridfinity in my new space, but I love that I can roll in these new standards! I think I'm also going to make silicone molds for a few basic components like base plates and basic bins so I can cast them in urethane resin. The only downside of these systems is the print time.
Great to hear you found it useful - I can certainly see the stars starting to align on these things, so I thought I'd given them a shove... :) I'm also looking at creating open source standards for drawers, cabinets also so you can easily construct these too! I love your silicone mold idea - that's genius! I might have a think about that - the idea of printing one larger container mold and then 'pouring the rest' is a great idea to batch out extra versions....!
@@handsonkatie urethane resins can also cure in like 15 minutes, so they massively cut down reproduction time. Honestly the only thing that has held me back from doing more Gridfinity so far is the print time on my single printer. I definitely want the open standard for drawers too! I use organizational systems when they are in place, but if they're not, I don't organize at all.
Great stuff. From one engineer to another: thanks! Spend most of my working life pushing the benefits of modularity and interoperability whilst putting up with my cupboards and drawers being a messy hodgepodge! Liked and subscribed.
I've been 3d printing custom designed pieces that fit on a French cleat wall for my garage. My woodworking skills really aren't up to the challenge of making holders and what not but I can design them for 3d printing easy enough! It's surprising how strong a good 3d print can be and they hang on the cleats no problem. I even have 3d printed shelves with a gridfinity base that hang on the cleats.
We're like twins from across the world! Yes, I've done exactly the same! People wildly underestimate how strong 3D Printed cleats can be - they're super convenient to produce and have all the advantages of french cleats of wood! I'm going to cover all this in my workshop series, so there'll be masses of free things for you to pinch for your workshop!
Thank you, you're very kind - I've only been going a few months, so wonderful if you can help spread the word in forums, Reddit and anywhere else that you think people might be interested in my madness!! 🤣🤣
I have been reoptimising my workshop space over the years and hit a few dead ends, looking forward to this series, to maybe help solve a few issues. Hope you're having a good week.
Thanks for the insights into something so practical. Unfortunately, I got in trouble when my wife caught me smiling from across the room while I was watching your video. I may have to watch your future videos in private, 😅
A fine choice indeed - they'll serve you well! I'm going to upload a whole pile of 3d print components that connect to french cleats too - even 3d printed french cleats are helpful themselves sometimes!
I'm no engineer, in fact I'm more of a Necessity DIY'er.. 😂. However, the last thing I made from scratch was French Cleat to store my chisels in my shed....
Thanks for your vid and am looking forward to the follow up and approaches you have per room! Couldn't have come at a better time to inspire my ongoing spring cleaning / organizing. Challenge: In the kitchen we have a lot of containers and jars stored separately from their lids. Finding the correct lid for a specific container/jar is a challenge, specially due to the high variety of sizes.
One of the ways I've tackled this is by getting rid of most of my storage containers and switching to deli containers. They come in various useful sizes, and all use the same lids. They're cheap enough to give away or throw out when they start wearing out, but can be washed and reused many times. Meal prep containers are another answer and come in various depths and with/without compartments. Those don't meet every need, of course. I keep one set of nesting Lock & Lock glass containers for food I'm sure I'll reheat as-is. No need to track down the lids, since they're always on the container. I keep a couple of very large tupperware containers for storing bulk soup, leftover pizza from a party, loaves of bread, large quantities of baked goods for a pot luck, etc. The lids stay under the container. Now, when it comes to mason jars, I'm with you. The best I've come up with is storing the rings on a loop of twine and hanging it up. The rest is just tossed in a basket of various mason jar accessories. Regular and wide mouth just mixed together.
@@bloodgain I've done pretty much the same as you! But I standardized on having only "wide-mouth" mason jars so that every size (I have 4 / 8 / 16 / 32 oz) takes the same lids. Since the mason jars tend to be used for staples (oatmeal, cereals; nuts, dried fruits; honey, other sweeteners, stevia; dried beans, lentils, split peas; rices, pastas; etc., they usually stay in use so the lid storage isn't an issue so far. I have an extensive collection of herbs, spices, special "mixes" (chai spice to add to any tea, "ranch" for salad dressing or dip), and various drink powders (cocoa, coffee substitutes I like, instant ice tea). I'm standardizing those with a) re-used half-size shaker spice jars for items less used (chili powder), b) a set of glass spice jars in a spinner (color-coded with color dots on the lids and a "legend" pasted to the top of the spinner), and c) a drawer of short, wide jars for items used in larger quantities (drinks mixes, extra quantities of favorites bought in bulk). It's not that I'm a gourmet cook, not at all, but I like variety in my food and to experiment (hence the wide assortment of dry goods and herbs/spices), _not_ in my containers and accoutrements (hence the simplification and standardization). 😉
Extremely clever and well done. I've been observing how disorganized spaces affects my life and have a myriad of algorithms to make less so...yet this is next level first cause thinking. While containerization is one of my tactics, this takes that to an entire strategy based on the four systems.
I think my biggest problem is the one most of us face: flat surfaces collect random items until it gets bad enough that I deal with it. And then half of that stuff gets tossed in a different room that is just collecting random items I don't know where or can't be bothered to store. Of course, the underlying issue is probably a lack of organized storage (and a little laziness...). However, I did try organizing my linen closet so that medical/first aid supplies and toiletries all had a tupperware bin to go to. Some of them are too full, and there's not enough room to store more bins, even though there's technically usable space if it was organized differently. And I still have to dig through a bin to find what I need. It's the default for commercially-available storage, but it's just not a great system!
Think you're spot on bloodgain - lack of storage places is exactly where this begins. If our brains have an obvious place to put things, it's cognitively 'easy', if we need to think of a location, it's 'hard' - ie doesn't get done. Your second comment is exactly where I'm been redesigning in this video - it's amazing how unstandardised and unadaptable the commercial storage solutions are....!
For bathroom items, if I have to combine items in a single bin, I try to "batch" them using ziploc bags of various sizes. So maybe toothpastes in one, toothbrushes in another, etc. with all the "oral hygiene" stuff in one bin. I use plastic chests of drawers (Sterilite) of different sizes under my bathroom and kitchen sinks, where they fit well on either side of the drainpipe and keep things organized in that otherwise big, open space.) I, too, struggle with the "too much trouble to figure out where to put this" problem. The clutter and organization books/articles/videos I look at (instead of actually decluttering/organizing) sometimes say that if you don't have room to store all your stuff... _you've got too much stuff_ ! Instead of getting more storage containers, the recommendation is to reduce the amount of stuff to fit the storage space you have. I think they have a point. (I'm working on it....)
@@nodoboho I definitely have too much stuff! I don't want to just toss meds, first aid stuff, and toiletries that will be good for years, though. I should probably donate a bunch of it. If I had a basement, I'd buy some used store shelving and build my own little stop-and-shop in it!
This is a great chat - probably a video in its own right. There's this quantum of 'need' - ie there's rarely any issue with deciding about whether to keep those things you use all the time, nor those things you never need. The vast majority of stuff is in the variable value space - all those nuts, bolts, washers, meds, brackets, tapes and so on are pretty low value most of the time.... but when you need them for that broken bracket, sore head or whatever, they're super valuable to have and actually very expensive to not. Eg having to stop the project, drive down to the big box store (time/cost), buy a bag of bolts (high cost) and drive back. I love the idea of a stop-and-shop - wouldn't it be amazing if we could 'share' online all the components and bits and bobs we're happy to share with neighbours...!
@@handsonkatie Oh, gosh, yes, like a shared maker space but for sharing bits and bobs that only have value in avoiding a shopping trip for one little thing! I just saw a post on the local subreddit where somebody was looking for a local source for a Raspberry Pi and some 74-series chips, and a couple of people chimed in to say they had some they'd trade for if the OP couldn't find any.
I have already started with Gridfinity and love the modularity of it. I like your Neogrid, blending Gridfinity, printed parts and available slats. I was starting to use HSW, but like the multiboard approach. I will likely switch over to it. Some of my HSW parts can be adapted to it. Others may find limited use on one wall, (that may be departing soon anyway.) I have french cleat on my wall over my heavy workbench, and enjoy how easy it is to build a new fixture for it. I have several of the square shelving units (1 foot by 1 foot grid) that I am trying to figure something out for. They end up taking square bins that accumulate clutter. I'm thinking some kind of drawer inserts to put other organizers in.
Love it Glenn - sounds like you and me think alike! Regarding the shelving units, yes, I find vertical height is often the challenge area - too much air and not enough storage. I often end up building in shallow drawers to allow me to have a stack of them within the cube, then I just rebuild the shelving units myself....!
That's not how it will happen. You will get to purchase your printer, but never get to use the darn thing because she will take it over. I hear you now. Buy two printers right? Nope. Now she has doubled her output of creativity while you are still trying to figure out where you went wrong. Ask me how I know. 😂😂😂
I’m really enjoying the production and would love to know the behind the scenes equipment, software and hardware you use to produce such great content.
Awesome idea! To be honest, cables are still my nemesis. From small USB cables to my collection of random power cables, they won’t stay in their container and become a tangled mess.
Mine usually stay organized when looped and slid into a toilet paper tube (or section if the cable doesn't fit well) or else wrapped around the tube, then ends tucked through. The tube could be covered in nice paper or something to standardize or color-code or just make it pretty. Or just write what it's for on the tube with a marker and throw the thing into the "cables" bin/drawer/box with the others.
This is a great idea - I've designed something very similar, you can get slightly more space efficient than circles if you use honeycomb-style designs - I'll upload these in the near future once I'm happy with the sizings! But love simple solutions when they're available too - I'd actually probably avoid covering/papering them - it does look less polished, but suddenly you move from an endless supply of cable organisers being produced 'automatically' (without getting into your toilet habits!) to a chore that you need to maintain! If you want something nice, then I'd go with a 3d print that you can fire and forget in seconds, if you don't mind it being a bit rough and ready (eg storage in your attic or out of sight), then toilet roll rubes are a brilliant idea. You could also use kitchen roll tubes which are twice the length for any larger usb cables.
@@handsonkatie Well, I'm also pretty frugal and I've seen other possible uses for them, so I've been saving them up; paper towel ("kitchen roll") tubes as well. At this point, I think I've run out of cords and cables to put in them, so I can start using them for supposedly plantable seedlings cups or pitching them into the recycling bin. I'm also big on efficiency and also lazy, so I was just using the ones that were white and smooth (not the gray cardboardy ones) and hand-printing a short label on it with a marker. They are out-of-sight in a bin that fits under a shelving unit.
I just hit 'print' on a bunch of usb cable organisers that I just designed based on your thoughts...!! Love the idea of the planters, would degrade nicely and much better than those shop ones that degrade, but constrain the roots at the base. I'm gonna pinch that idea!! ❤❤❤😊
Here's the thorn in MY side... my 3d printed models! I have an obsession with printing and displaying all sorts of robots, from ED-209 to R2D2. Some big, some small - I want to display them but they take up sooo much shelf space and I'm rapidly running out (Probably going to just need some more floating shelves!)
@@handsonkatie nice! I've actually been thinking I'd like to give designing and 3d printing some furniture a go (I need to make a custom shelving unit to fill an odd shaped space in the bedroom - but then I thought... why not do garden seats, maybe a table, ...)
Loving this idea. I sat here trying to find a mess use case that could really stress test your systems, so how about these: - opened bags of crisps, and similar, "baggy" items that we don't really want to move to another container and have a relatively small lifespan. - consumable first-in-first-out storage like groceries (I might be hungry 🙂) Also I got to say your videos are really cool, the combination of nerdiness and editing skills is on point
Ooh I love these ideas - I'll tackle the crisp idea in the kitchen, got some ideas already - great use case! Thanks for your kind comments too - the nerdiness I can't help, but the editing skills will hopefully improve!
To close the open bags, I use standard office supply binder clips. Commercial products sold especially for bags are harder to use or less durable/sturdy. Simply fold the corners on the open end of the bag in to make a point, fold the point over 3-4 times, clip it. Now where to put those bags...
@@Sylvan_dB I use clothes line clips (not sure if this is the actual name in english), but indeed the "mess" comes more from were to put them. Currently they go on a shelf in the pantry, but it does not seem right, so I'm eager to see Katie's approach.
Ok, now how do we apply this same concept to car camping / overland gear storage? My wife and I have a big camping trip planned for the end of this summer. It's always a struggle planning on what to take, where to store it, and how to access everything. It starts great, but ends up a chaotic mess shortly into a camping trip. I have been researching SUV camp drawer and kitchen builds for months, and now you've really got me thinking!
Hi Katie. another great video... i've had a 3D printer for years but its packed away at the moment due to moving. once I have it set back up, i'll deffo be printing some of these storage solutions for my new Man-cave! Keep up the good work. oh and if we were not both married.. i'd ask you out for a drink ;-) x
Mostly looking forward for tips organising a desk with all of its cables, power strip and small items like pens, flask drives etc. As well as organising the plethora of spare construction material in all different shapes and sizes. Don't own a 3D printer though. I'm concerned about the VOC's since our house is nearly air tight.
Super - have some stuff on this in plan after my pc build series. Also might do a short on the VoC point, have some smart sensors for this...! Although they're actually really not a problem since filaments like ABS went out of fashion and filters/enclosures became more common...! Might be worth keeping an eye out for that test!
I was kind of thinking there would be some great revelation here, but it's all stuff I knew about, with the exception of the self-created grid solution, that may or may not be relevant, have to see what it can do. But you can't just engineer your way out of the problem, you also need to organize your way out of the problem. Principles like Lean can apply 100% to homes, at least many parts of it. For instance, unnecessary travel; if you have your dishwasher on one end, and store you plates on the other end, you're forever walking back and forth. If your clothing articles are placed sub-optimally, you're also going back and forth. Labeling and marking down exactly where something should be tells you that if it's not there, you've messed up returning it or you ran out and need to re-order, etc. Technological solutions help, but at the end of the day the reason organization fails is because the people stop adhering to maintaining the organization.
Great comment - yes a lot of this is seemingly common sense (indeed as I highlight, much like the Agile Manifesto was seemingly common sense when it launched) - but the reality is there are no standards in home organisation, so this creates cognitive friction. Definitely lots of other points like travel - I'll cover these in the individual room videos - this is key, especially in workshops. I think I lean much more to the neuroscientific view on why these systems fail - ie people don't just stop adhering to the maintenance, there's a bit more complexity - much like people don't just gain weight because they 'want to'.....! Time and focus are other factors that weigh in too in this!
The overlooked solution with dishwashers is to have more of them. If you replace cabinet lowers with additional dishwashers you can just use them to store dishes. As a starting point, think about having 2 -- one is your "clean" dishwasher, the other is your "dirty" dishwasher. As you use things, transfer from one to the other. Once you have enough in the "dirty" washer, run a cycle and then swap which one is treated as dirty.
I have a challenge for you to organize, one geek woman to another. Where and how do I store all my RPG terrain and miniatures? I do try and magnetize all my bases and then store the minis in scrapbook bins because they fit perfectly in an Ikea cubby. I also have a PS1 and am currently waiting for my next order of filament to start printing multiboard and gridfinity parts.
Ooooooooh!!!! Now I tell you, I thought about this as I was making some of these 3d models!! I don't really do miniatures myself (although not sure why not as I love board games/gaming in general and love all the intricate details!), but I was thinking about how I could create the 'ultimate miniatures set' at some point - could have organisers for all the paints, brushes and storage drawers for the finished miniatures themselves, think it'd be a great project! Drop me an email on my site and we should brainstorm some ideas - I think a lot of the systems I've covered should work really well for you, but I'm happy to model any 'gaps' that you need solutions for!!! Love the idea though - it's a perfect project! PS I've also got a 'Smart Gaming Table' project on my backlog too, I've been listing all the features I want to include and then I can build it!
Katie, one of the major drawbacks of organization imo is the time and investment put into prior or existing organization attempts. For instance, my wife and I built a new house and have A LOT of items of all kinds and all sizes just in boxes in the basement. Christmas decorations, other home decorations, kitchen organization items, clothing, tools, electronics, etc. So far, our organizational ideas have consisted of building three 7ft high, 30" deep, and with 4 tiers including the concrete floor. - 24' long in total.. We have purchased semi-transparent storage containers that are roughly 18"H X 20" W X 30" L. These have opaque lids, but our idea is that with using a labeler and the fact they are transparent allows us to see what's in them without opening them up unnecessarily. To begin our organizational journey, we are determining 2 things. 1. Do we want to keep this? 2. How soon will we use this? Answer to question one is either Yes or No of course, if no, trash it or sell it... For question 2, Imminent use goes on Tiers 1 and 2 - most accessible with later possible use going on tiers 3 and 4 at the top, less accessible of course. I really like your methodology, but not certain how could be reasonably applied to our home. I will say that if I had time and energy, applying what you here to my workshop for tools, nails, screws, etc, sounds feasible. I do really look forward to seeing how you have applied this first hand to your home for a guide and as a reference....
Brilliant thinking here and you're spot on - I've got a video this week showing how I've applied it to my craft room that touches on your exact points (eg frequency of use and so on). Remember with a 3d printer, it's not your time and energy - you'd hit 'print' on 25 boxes and leave it to work away overnight!
Like you, I love curves. Nature knows what it's doing, and they are a joy to look at! But you are absolutely correct that grids are the best way to organise our world. I discovered gridfinity about a year ago and also know french cleats. Thanks for introducing the other 2, they do appear to be a knock out combination (though I think Zack covered using gridfinity for the walls too). I'm looking forward to this series, especially suggestions on hanging really heavy items on a wall - think server racks and other hardware for example. If you can suggest approximately how much weight each solution could support on different wall types (real brick, partition wall, etc.) and the best ways to attach the grid support to them that would be amazing!
Oooh great suggestions - yes Gridfinity 'sort of' works for the wall, but it doesn't really mechanically fix, so for some items you just need screws - multiboard is great for this. On the hanging weights, great idea - although I might go one better and just strength test the lot of them!
@@handsonkatie also, completely off-topic... After watching your previous video and discovering your channel, I went on a bit of a "binge" to see what else you had published, and noticed that you had a few welsh words in some vids - more please, I love learning languages :) Even more off-topic, if you could find a way to slip in that long welsh place name that everyone mentiones but noone can remember (you know the one ;)), said by a real welsh person and then maybe slowly broken down into the sounds so the rest of us can try to remember it, that would be cool (I seem to manage to remember some of the bits in the middle, and of course the end like most people)
Great video. I love your style of informative videos. I have one 3D printer, and the second one is coming. I will be using your techniques in my home office.
Great to hear Jack! Oooh I'm redesigning my home office in the coming weeks, I'll run videos on that too, so let me know if anything you want to solve in particular and I'll try and incorporate, otherwise, hopefully it'll give you some food for thought!!
Metric wins hands down on any scientific/precise measurement - imperial has it's place as it's based on 'things' so its often more relevant - eg a 6 foot+ man is a tall man, whereas a 180cm man or 185cm man - in this case the precision of metric loses the ability to broadly group. Other than that, metric wins!
just bought wood and a saw today so i can make french cleats - I'd come to the same conclusion!! I didn't know about neogrid but 100% adding it to my too-print list, so THANK YOU for that. Love that its gridfinity compatible. The only thing I'm on the fence about is multiboard -- honeycomb wall system seems more popular though? and more community engagement too. But I confess I like the look of multiboard though. I have visions of putting up french cleats in my mudroom so I can put shoe shelves but then also make a multiboard-or-honeycomb-wall-system that attaches to the french celat, so I can have a small section that also is just, like, random little hooks and a place to put the dog's foot-cleaning cloths, and hook umbrellas to and so on.... Hm.... maybe the multiboard's holding weight makes it the winner though the fact that multiboard is, like, just one guy.. so much of gridfinity is also about how many other people are making models (so i dont have to). i haven't printed any HWS yet but I was going to... so on the fence about the small/vertical
Hey Rebecca! 👋 😊 Brilliant approach and think you're working through it in the right way, ie logically! Multiboard is definitely superior in my view (I played with honeycomb, pegboards and so on) - the holding weight of 20kg+ and the ability to screw is so much more useful. You know there's also honeycomb converters for Multiboard? (Ie so all the honeycomb models will work with it?). Likewise for pegboard, Gridfinity and more. It is overcomplicated, hence my approach to just KISS it all, but the basic system is great! But have a play, it's all free so just test honeycomb, Multiboard etc and go with what works, but you won't regret the french cleats!! (I've got a range of adapters for those too - eg 3d printed french cleat holders etc!!)
@@handsonkatie I've been doing french cleats in home and now in garage, with plans to do some in the various points throughout. I love that they can hold weight and I'm slowly working towards being able to do something I can put in my house (roundovers and painted and sanded) and using the garage as learning. I couldn't do multiboard though. I printed the test package, and I get your idea of just cherry-picking the must-needs. But I was consumed with frustration at the system and complexity and creator, the lack of documentation. It might be technically superior solution but I'm going with Ikea skadis. When french cleats didn't go well or my gridfinity failed I was still filled with joy and eagerness and willingness to work through it and figure things out, combined with the underlying simplicity. every experience with multiboard just made me cranky and I realized it was okay to gravitate toward joy. Maybe when Multiboard settles down I could reconsider, but in the meantime skadis seems simple enough for what I need, can hold enough weight for me, has lots of 3dprinted add-ons, and I can probably manage my own skadis additions so I'm pretty happy with it overall Still loving your approach to organization, it's been very influentical on me. I am trying to keep in mind a preference for simple reusable bins instead of super-customized things - very insightful!
@@rebeccakeller4666 Heh, I do know what you mean - as I covered, I really just use three or four multiboard components and ignore the rest (using Gridfinity or David D's solution which does everything I need) - check out my video coming out today for even more examples of this, but note how I really just use one multiboard grid and a custom snap connector to do everything! As you say, keep enjoying the organising though, that's the most important thing!! 😊
Brilliant video and will be showing to the Mrs as ammunition that 3D printers are not useless and I /we need one lol Can i also add that the production level on your videos are superb Thank You
What usually ends up being a mess you ask? usually the women I date. Can you solve that? where do I find a smart one like you? Just discovered your channel and you are really creative and given me so many ideas. Thumbs up on your videos, unfortunaly youtube only let me give you one thumb up not more.
For me it's my shed. Small size and large tools. I have got a 3d printer and have started to print gridfinity. I'll also check out your website. Cool video
You clever girl! I like the idea of 42mm grids. I'm humored and educated all at once! You do a fabulous job of sharing your insights and grid solutions. Well done video editing, and creative engineering ideas. What brand of 3D printer are you using? Cheers Katie. You're the best and I love your videos. Rounded, curved surfaces, who knew? Keep up the great videos!
Yarn storage and my tiny linen cupboard are the problem areas I have. I'm interested in seeing your future videos in how your 4 systems interconnect to become solutions.
Oooh yes, yarn (or wool over this side of the pond here!) - I've got plenty of that to organise, so that'll be part of the sewing room rebuild. Linen - will look to work that in too!
Really like your concept of NEOGRID. I've run into similar issues with Gridfinity. Examples being stuff like calipers, rulers, or spanner wrenches. I want to keep them with the smaller items due to how I am grouping. I've considered just making Gridfinity trays as a catch all but the trays end up needing to be bigger than the printer base. This might be a good compromise verses trying to calculate how to structurally join tray pieces together and still remain strong. Have you considered doing a video on just NEOGRID and different ways you implement it?
Hey Troy! Thank you, glad you found it helpful! 😊 Yes I have actually, in fact I've already recorded it, so it should be not too much longer - but first I've done another even more common ask, to see my Underware!! 😂 Cable management video coming this week!
Hey Katie, I love your videos and you're a natural UA-cam presenter. I've been using and designing parts for gidfinity for some time now and love that system. But I have use for a portable solution for my organizational needs. My models are located in the same place as your Neogrid prints and i go by Handy Handcrafts. It would be nice if you had Neogrid models that snapped into to the Multiboard system. I can offer my design skills i you'd like. I may design my own containers as well for Multiboard that meet my specific needs. Keep up the great videos and we'll keep watching!
Hey thanks HikerDad - I try my best! What's your thoughts on the NeoGrid option - more than happy to model anything required or you're welcome to have the design files too, just struggling to picture what you're describing, but I like a challenge! Do you use discord? We could chat in my server there I've set up so I can share files/pictures easier?
FAN.... TASTIC. I love this. FINALLY - I feel like I'm so close to actually being able to sort things out. This is just the thing. I have been struggling with a concept. I'm familiar with Gridfinity but wasn't aware of Multiboard plus your addons. What I would really appreciate seeing is a PROPER chaos to organised. The problem is I never know where to start. And every video I see on this topic doesn't match my situation. However your approach of adaptable is game changing for me. Would love to see more.
I didn't know Gridfinity, but mainly because I ignored it, I actually thought I don't need such a system (I don't have many drawers). But you convinced me that it may indeed be useful beyond drawers. I especially like the converter things... that's a really good idea. I already thought, using boxes on a multiboard would not be flexible enough. I would usually take some boxes to the place I work with them, e.g. in the garden or another desk (they are always overcrowded, so I have several of them). I use transparent boxes to store but also carry around tools and things. Converters solve this.
Brilliant examples and I love the toilet roll example, I might invent a 3d print for that I think! I've just published a new video that might bring some of this to life even more!
@@handsonkatie actually, I think it could be a module for Gridfinity, 42x42 is a good size for most cables (e.g. Audio). Some cables are a bit too big and too stiff for one toilet roll (e.g. 240V cables), instead I would use two Gridfinity rectangles for these. Some small cables could also be two per rectangle. I guess such boxes already exist? May be not the necessary height? the boxes do not need to be round
@@handsonkatie I have some quite old assortment boxes with a see through cover. Those contain little boxes sized by a base raster, some with a multiple of the raster, but no grid at the bottom. I always wanted more of them, but never found an alternative product. I should probably create my own and use Gridfinity raster for them. Mine have an inner size of 29.2mm x 22.8mm (well 30 x 23.5 outside with cover, it's a practical size, full of screws they are still not too heavy. A box has an inner sie of 7.2mm x 5.6 mm, so most screws fit inside (I use them for screws, mainly for the 3D printer, and for electronic parts)
@@aribowellexactly right, I already do this! Watch out in future videos and I'll show them. But it's also a nice idea to use toilet roll, I was thinking I could create a little 3d printed cap and Gridfinity base and then you could just clip them onto toilet rolls to turn them into more rigid containers!
@@aribowellthat could be a great use - and if you do the maths, you can work out what Gridfinity pattern fits best for them and have them inter compatible! 😎
Great video and intesting concept, Yet I fail to see how it will ensure the wife puts the kitchen ware back in the correct places. If it can do that i'll stop borrowing my mates 3D printer and get my own.😂 Looking forwards to where this voyage of discovery takes us and hoping I can find the chopsticks or measuring bowl without checking every draw or cupboard soon.
Ah, the cognitive challenge.... that's actually something I'll cover in future videos - whether I can fix your other half is another question (she may just do it deliberately to annoy you.... 😅😅😅 ) - but I'll have a go!!
I got a 3d printer. Everything I do ends up a mess. I've never been capable of organizing anything, and I expect that if I put something in some random place in my house it better still be there when I come back to it a few months later. That isn't working out because I have a family that likes to do things such as clean and just ya know live in the same space as me. Tell me how to organize my stuff, lady!
I think you summarized the problem and solution approach well. I have been building both multiboard and gridfinity solutions independently for a while. I do not think they integrate well and will be interested in your solutions. I am intrigued by neo and followed you down the rabbit hole ... hope you can provide a "utility board" compatible product available in the US else it will be difficult to include that component into the system. 😢😢😢 ( the US is never going to go metric in my lifetime )
Thanks Carl - yes, the various converters between Gridfinity and Multiboard have been essential I'd say - I'll tour these in detail in upcoming videos. As for Neogrid, well the design is parametric, so very easy to fit any width of material, so if you can find some consistent similar material in the US and state the width, I can easily generate all the files to fit. I've used 6mm MDF for example in testing it and it works great!
I look forward to more instructional videos on integrating these organizational systems. I am teaching myself F360 and will try to find an appropriate material to test neo. I have been building boxes out of 3mm cardboard using a similar set of connectors.
Amazing!!! Looking forward to this project! Do you have a idea how the Multiboard system can be used like IKEA Skadis system, that can be attached to a freestanding desk?
I've done exactly this in my workshop, so watch out for that video and I'll share more details! But yes you can get freestanding attachments like this: thangs.com/search/%22MB25%22%20creator%3A%22Keep%20Making%22?scope=thangs&view=list&affiliateCode=hendricks Is that what you mean?
@@handsonkatie Yes, right this. I'm asking myself how stable the Multiboard is when it's freestanding. I'm looking forward to learn from your workshop organisation!!
As I looked at the clutter surrounding the laptop upon which I watched your video, I felt pretty convicted. 😬Although, I am a generalist, I'd be particularly keen on some deep dives into how you put your system into practice. How did you create your taxonomy and ontology? What were the driving factors? This is guidance I could use. Although creating such data constructs is my everyday work life, I seem to struggle with tangibles, which seem to pile up. I freeze-framed parts of your video to read your labels for ideas. May I offer some unsolicited opinions on your videos for your consideration? OK, you're still reading, so I'll take that as a yes. Although you are actually quite dynamic in your presentation (top notch), as a consumer of such content, I tend to find less "talking head" to be better. Your voice track is excellent, but I'd enjoy seeing more visual variety as you narrate. It could be as simple as a few wide shots as you work in your shop, or we see 3D printers at work. Bob from "I Like to Make Stuff" has heavy narrative on his projects, but there are many different things to watch while we're listening. Since you have posted videos on a variety of topics, I wonder if it might help to create some clever (or cheeky) theme titles to help distinguish videos of one topic from another? I've learned that many UA-camrs will dedicate a channel to a particular topic (e.g. crafting, marketing, etc.) supporting the thought that consumers visit a particular channel for a specific topic. I find your content quite interesting and wonder what you're going to cover next, but maybe others have different expectations and think you will have a focus. Topic titles might provide a nice way to segregate your content. Please continue to let your sense of humor shine through. It's fun! I'm really enjoying your work, Katie, so hope you take the comments in the spirit they were intended.
Amazing comment - thank you so much for this - helpful at some many levels! Taxonomy/ontology - oh great question and could be an hour video on its own (although you and me might be the only ones interested!!). At its basis I've actually avoided being too ontological - I think this was a mistake in the past. Much like the web spent too much time in Information Architecture design, before shifting onto tag-based constructs, facets search etc. In very short terms, don't try and define things too much, but focus on letting its ontology adapt if you need to - this is a key part I covered - so if those pliers are now better suited to the workshop, then great I just pick up their container and I know it'll fit in the relevant spot. One driving point is around work optimisation - ie measuring the time it takes you to do a task and seeking to minimise that in your design (are those scissors in reach for cutting the thread, where's my needles and so on). I hope I'll cover this in future videos, so hopefully that will help answer the question in more clarity. On videos - thank you very much for your kind comments and great ideas - oh there's loads I'd like to do more of. I agree with the extra shots, it's actually loads of work - not least as I'm totally incompetent still having only started video editing/filming for the first time a few months ago. To give you a measure of my ineptness, I actually had to re-film the whole thing as I'd forgotten to plug in the microphone correctly..... idiot! I definitely want to do more visual variety as you say - it's a bit of an odd habit to develop as I've always just ploughed on with projects, so I'm trying to build the habit of filming as I go (I keep forgetting, but I'll try harder!!). Topic titles/categorisation is definitely something I want to do going forward - although it does require me to know what the heck I'm doing in the first place.... 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks again for taking the time to comment, I love comments like this - they're so helpful!
@@handsonkatie Uh, oh, it sounds as if we both work in the same industry for our day jobs. 😅You're right that it might be a pretty limited audience who would want to do a deep dive on ontological discussions. Well, we'd have fun geeking out, at least. I should take a step back and look at some of my repetitive tasks and kaizen [cough, cough] them. But, I am chaos at heart. Organizational nirvana may always remain out of reach for me, but you've piqued my interest. Maybe I can start printing some items, but, oh my word, it will take forever to do it! How entrepreneurial do you feel? Time to get mass production of some of your designs so lazy people can simply purchase them? Hmmmm?????? Your video production skills are actually quite excellent. It's surprising how short a time you've been doing this work, because your lighting, alone, is fantastic, and that's not an easy thing to get right. All of the graphical components have been high-quality and have a consistent aesthetic. These are things that generally take a long time to develop. (My skills are certainly still under development.) Pat yourself on your back, you have done exceptionally well. The content portion is the most difficult thing to nail. How do you pace it, how do you break it up, how do you determine the right length, how do you summarize to make sure the right points have been conveyed? It's just like presentations for our day jobs. I think you're doing really well with your content and am just being picky about wanting greater visual variety. I've been learning this the hard way, myself. To make you feel better: Although I am a very technical person at heart, I am just as prone to ineptitude as the next person. I was making a video on installing recessed lights and shot this bit of me in our upstairs hallway with a laser level painting a line down the center of the ceiling, as I extolled the virtues of the level. Thought it went OK, packed the camera up and cut a ton of holes in the ceiling. Two months later I looked at the footage. No audio. I asked my wife if she could read my lips (I'm rubbish at that) to see if I could maybe lip synch myself there, because I certainly couldn't reshoot it, since the lights are already installed. Argh! I still don't know what I'm going to do. So, know that you have a brother in arms. As for getting extra footage, boy do I understand. I thought I would do a video on our extensive kitchen remodel, but bringing out the camera made everything take twice as long and there was SO much to do. I finally decided to keep the camera in the other room and just get the work done. I might regret that. That's why I was thinking if you simply put a camera on a tripod and let it run unattended, it might provide you with the cutaways you need, but without too much extra fuss. > although it does require me to know what the heck I'm doing in the first place You're not fooling this guy with such statements! Thanks for being open to receiving comments. I wish you great success!
Great video - another problem that annoys me is how to incorporate accessible data and audio cabling into a domestic environment. When I did my home extension in 2000, Cat5E was state of the art, but now it’s slow and old hat but it’s inaccessible behind the plaster wall. In an office environment the solution would be cable ducting and false ceilings, but that’s not going to look great at home. I’d prefer not to use wifi, any suggestions?
You're completely right - I'd install plastic tubing (just use 35mm pipe for waste water or something cheap like that) - but that's obviously BEFORE you plaster the walls! I might have a look at this at some point though - I've seen skirting boards that pop off to let you run cables behind them (a very expensive alternative to a few hours with a router IMO! However it might be fun to build cable mounts that integrate on top of skirting and seamlessly seek to 'disappear'.... I'll have a muse!
You didn’t really go into how you integrate the French cleat system into the other storage methods. Are you 3D printing cleats or going the traditional route with wood? The way you ended the video, it seems like you have 3 options that are more or less integrated plus one solo one for heavy vertical storage. (Which seems pretty accurate, but I’d like to see more of your idea’s for integration, like multiboard based french cleat modules… or whatever you have in mind.) Good video - I enjoyed it and am looking forward to learn more about neogrid in particular
Hey Jon - yes, I've got a whole series coming up which dives into more detail as I tour each room - I thought this would bring it to life more easily! Given there's about 300+ custom models I've built for all the various solutions! To answer your question, I'm doing both - it's really handy to have 3d printed cleat holders for some things (saves buzzing out pieces on the table saw) and then I've cut plywood cleats for lots of other stuff. It's the combination of the two that becomes really powerful - you'll see this in the workshop tour and I've got laser cut and CNC cut patterns for gridfinity, so you can have french cleat shelves with wooden gridfinity bases for example! Oh and I'll do a dedicated neogrid video too in a bit to walk you through that also!
@@handsonkatie I feel like my OCD-like uber-organizing brainworm may keel over in excitement. I know I'm showing my age, but I struggle with most instructional or walk through video's - I just want to read how to do the thing, then get to work on the thing immediately, even though I know there are skills and techniques that really only translate in person or by video. I'm glad I stuck it out and watched this one though & I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
The thing that gets my goat is dishes... All the different sizes, shapes, and styles, they don't neatly stack, most of them, and they slip around, don't stay in one place, etc.
A great video Katie 😃 *raises hand with question* -- what 3D printer are you using that you've printed over a 1000 items in the last few weeks? I have one (i'm embarrassed to say it is a Balco one from Aldi) but it didn't print fast at all and i haven't used it for a few years. It looks llike you might have a Prusa one?
Well I've got er... five ..... 😂😂 First was a Prusa Mk3s, second was a CR10 Max (huge size but I had to basically rebuild it completely to get it to be reliable) and latest are Bambu P1S - I liked the first one so much, I bought two more....! Highly recommend them or their A1 range, you'll be amazed at speed difference Vs Balco....!
@@handsonkatie holy moly! you are really into your 3D printing. Yeah, i can see how you would be able to produce that many items now. The Balco is something like 10-70mm/sec compared to 500mm/sec on the P1S?! crikey! no comparison!
@@handsonkatie Katie you've clearly invested a lot of time and effort fine tuning your 3D printing process! I'd love to see a video that describes what you think are must-haves in a 3D printing set up. I'm yet to take the plunge into the 3D printing world but can see that following your channel might just tip the balance and having your thoughts would be of immeasurable value. "Immeasurable." 🤔Is that metric or imperial?
Not sure if i missed it but how exactly is the french cleat interoperable with the other standards? I would love to see some kind of software assistant that can help me remember where things are stored in my home Thanks for the video!!!
French cleats - watch this space, it'll naturally come into its own in my workshop video where there's masses of 'heavy items'. In short, I've got 3d printed cleats, gridfinity mounts both in wood and PLA and more....! Software assistant - yes I agree, I'm musing something similar - the challenge is universal tracking, eg it's easy to track where your phone is as it's a smart/connected device, you can add a tag to your keys, but your glasses, your shoes etc etc? At some point I was plotting using image recognition to have a play with 'last spotted' events for certain objects - not convinced it'd work well enough for small objects yet, but could be a fun project.... until then, watch my sewing room video coming next week that'll dive into more of this and will at least explain how I structure things to make finding them as easy as possible!!
Hey Scott - main factors were really smart multi format (ie it works with Multiboard, honeycomb, pegboard and more) and strength - very strong format, holds 20kg+ so gives lots more flexibility (and tied to this, the ability to screw in fixtures makes it much stronger than push fit designs)
Thank you for excellent video! Was trying to make neogrid bits but my board is 3 mm thick. The files do not seem to be parametric. Could you make bits for 3 mm boards like you said in the video. Thanks in advance!
Of course! - there's also an fusion 360 file that others have used to adjust themselves, but happy to pull together. Do you want to drop me an email on my website (www.handsonkatie.com)? I'll send you a test version so you can check it fits neatly - I suspect you'll actually want something like 3.1mm for a tight, but not too tight fit!
I wouldn’t know what 3D Printer to buy. I am of the impression that they are very slow, so I don’t know how you managed to print so much in the past few weeks.
Well they've certainly got an awful lot faster in recent years, but there's a subtlety to how they operate that I probably need to cover - ie they can work away non-stop and don't need any attention, so they can be running away through the day and night - I'll try and cover this in a future video!
I might do a video on this as quite a common question - I'd start with Bambu A1 if you want to start cheap or go to a Bambu P1S if you want to spend a little more....! Both are super reliable and fast!
Thanks for a great video! One challenging area for me is cables. I have *lots* of them. They are sorted in large boxes by type (audio,videos,usb,power,etc) and while it works ok, it's not great. Esp USB has tons of various connectors so when I need to find a specific cable I still need to go over quite a bit in the USB box. Any suggestions and ideas in this area would be great for sure :)
..not just that, but the silly USB standard is poorly demarcated - does that USB cable work with data or is it just a power cable for example?? I have just the solution for both, keep an eye out for upcoming videos for this. I might even do a dedicated video on cables - it seems a very common challenge!!
@@handsonkatie Agreed. Also, while it's a good idea to have set of spare cables for various cases, it likely would be an idea to cull away some older cables that has some duplicates and never will be used again.
It looks like this address organization, but not the containers themselves. I'm desperate to find a standard large storage container and a standard shelf. Seems like "dunnage racks" are the most universal for shelving. And I haven't found something to my liking for containers.
Yes you're right - there's a great comment above that suggests creating 'molds' using 3d prints - I might try this. It's too time and money prohibitive to print larger boxes on current FDM. I'm also designing open source container systems - think cabinets, drawers and the like with automatic gridfinity grids, slot grooves and more. I could add a box system too potentially that might tackle some of your challenge - it's amazing that there's just no standard sizes in these things, then it'd be easy to find a solution!
A great video love this, I'm always looking for ways to organise my home, I came here from the home automation video you did which was great too, my only gripe for 3D printers, as my dad has one, is there so slow, it would take me months of constant printing to build these solutions, we need faster printers, or maybe you can recommend some?
Hey, thanks Leona! 😊Do you know which printer your dad has? They've certainly leapt forward in speed in the last couple of years - ie it's quite likely they're 4-5x faster out of the box, then there's also lots of tricks to speed things up further - eg layer height, larger nozzle etc. but they'll continue to get faster without a doubt...!
Mm no 3d printer yet but you've made a strong case here! As for messy rooms, my working space and in a lesser way my home office are always a mess. My own brain as well but you did not cover that in your video! :P
Hehehe! I'll keep working on you then! Excellent point though on the brain, that's actually something I'm going to cover in an upcoming video or two - it's something that's really interesting to me!!
I love this approach! My main issue is that if I don’t see things, I won’t remember I even have them! So I have lots of transparent containers that I label. They also have lids to keep dust/pests out. Is it possible to do the same with 3D printing?
Yes, great point - fdm printers can print transparent filament, but they'll be more opaque than glass-like. Few ways I'd approach this, I use window boxes like this: images.app.goo.gl/JWTqZ3M9LTSoGa6c8 and as in the video to allow this. The other option would be to just use your transparent boxes and create Gridfinity bases for them so you get the best of both worlds! Might include this in one of the room videos!
Yes, I touched on that lightly in the video - Gridfinity has such an enormous ecosystem that multigrid is a bit like betamax Vs VHS - definitely has advantages, but loses out on sheer ecosystem size...!
Great timing... I'm working on gridfinity for so many parts or my house, and it works great for the little things, but it gets cumbersome for the big things. Working on my garage now. Any thoughts on what to do with painting supplies? I've got 3 drawers of my Craftsman tool chests devoted to rollers, sleves, paint trays and tubes of caulk. Would love to hear you thoughts,
Oooh I've got loads of ideas - I've got horizontal and vertical stores for caulk/silicone tubes. Rollers, sleeves, paint trays are larger items, so I'd just build neogrid dividers for these myself. For small hand roller sleeves, you could design a Gridfinity solution - let me know if any urgent ones and can share files or model something specific, otherwise this will be covered in my workshop videos!!
Need some help in the bedroom - no problem, a panel of sex therapists can sit on the sofa or at the round table and observe and give live reccomendations.
Hey everything's on this page: handsonkatie.com/neogrid-organise-your-big-items-with-this-free-and-open-source-system/ Will update the link in case anyone else struggles to find it!
Well it's a challenge indeed - although the challenge is more my ignorance! You able to ping any links or describe the sort of stuff you have? By description, it sounds like a perfect fit for gridfinity (small parts), NeoGrid (larger pieces like wings or engines) and possibly even a french cleat wall mount for the actual aircraft??
4:12 "Why is it that there are no standards in home organisation? Engineering principles are applied to everything in the universe apart from our home organisation." ... and clothing sizes 😅
@@handsonkatie there are books written about the lack of standards in the fashion industry!? 🤭 They shouldn't write about the problem but they should fix the problem! 🤣 I can't wait to see that episode 🤣
@@Sierra-Whisky yes indeed, it all starts with the American Civil War and too many men dying, so they needed a vague fit rather than clothes that were properly tailored.... and we've been wearing I'll fitting ever since...! 🤣🤣
Many Rolls of tape is my nemesis ! Different widths and Diameters (which of course as change as I use them!! They always end up in a drawer which is a disaster zone!! HELP!!!!!
Came to write this. The first 10 minutes is a longwinded and slow paced talk about stuff that may or may not be tangentially relevant but I was skipping ahead 2 minutes at a time until I got to the point where some actual content appeared.
This is a great approach - I should have added a 'if you just want fed the answer, jump to 10:10' and if you want to understand the context and broader thinking, then settle in. I'll pinch that for future videos! But the words of Stolen Focus, The Anxious Generation and many more rings true, so I'd definitely lean towards longer form broader content if possible!
Well the short answer is Douglas Adams - as in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.... I did analyse this myself as I'd considered looking at alternative dimensions (eg 50mm, 25mm etc). It actually works pretty well as a number with a high number of divisible factors and it works well with both imperial and metric (as a close fit to their standard sizes at lots of common size points) - so in short I think, relatively arbitrary, but it was surprisingly effective as a size!
@@handsonkatie Nice. The "ultimate answer to everything" also came to mind when I was watching. LOL 😀... I'm looking at doing something similar but for a laser cutter instead of 3D Printing . Great vid, thanks.
My work desk is always a dumping ground for random things that don’t have a permanent home. The other thing that builds up here is paperwork of various kinds. Any solutions for these things?
I almost entirely use PLA - which is compostable/biodegradable at high compost temps - I also have an air monitor that I use just to keep an eye on them (more for workshop than 3d printer as it turns out as it's close to zero emissions) - so, I'd certainly be sensible as you should be with any material (eg I wouldn't use 3d prints for food items), but I'm not overly concerned.
No I do not buy 3d printer as you say. Because I already have a couple = ) As for standards... The situation in the world: "There are 100 standards for organizing things". Here comes the inventor: "I will stop this madness! I will introduce you THE NEW WAY! We will get rid of those ineffective incompatible methods which already exists!" ... some time later ... "There are 101 standards for organizing things" = )
No this is not bad, this is good. Chaos is the nature of the universe. As they say, that Einstein said, that only a fool needs in order - genius dominates the chaos. = ) As it was said (in that video) nature mixes all up, erodes, destroy, create, and mix once again. And only people strive to create structures. Just like Sisyphus did. (Or who knows, may be he is still trying to roll the stone to the mountain)
I did not say that. (It all those people, who says about what Einstein said = ) ) I mean, trying to standardize something, people create chaos of different standards. I think this is magnificent! = ) For example under last video there is a couple of links, some of which does not work now, and some will stop working someday. This if life. To be fair, nature equally mixes order and chaos which were created by people. And nothing comes for free. But everything goes... Well it's kinda philosophic matters. But never mind it does not really matter, until we are alive we always can replace those batteries to prolong the infinity = )
btw "You know, I am kinda an organizing system creator myself" Thing 5773479 But it is no squared, sorry = ) It is more on the entropy side of the universe.
So much plastic waste. Dust getting caught up in manufacturing all these catchments, sphongles and doo-dads. Maybe all you need is a label maker, sticky tabs and a texta. If you can't find anything, maybe your hobbies or lifestyle creep has actually consumed and gained a hold of you. Like the universe and its flow state; we must let a little bit of chaos rule our environments for creativity sake. Otherwise conformity, standardisation, homogenisation might just make you feel like you're living in a self-made, perpetually curated prison.
This is a good instinct to have and think it's certainly something to look out for...! I think the balance you describe has echoed through humanity since day zero - indeed this is very much the topic of the enlightenment and romantic eras. Of course, there's truth in both and the balance is the secret - for project building though, chaos in organisation rarely helps and I find organising the chaos allows me more creativity in my designs - it's too exhausting to be creative if you're searching for that chip, bit or screw for hours....! And your point on plastic waste is another area of interest - I prefer PLA from 3d printers (made of plants and compostable at higher temps) to the heavy oil manufacturing plastics - still I think the next innovation 'just' about to enter mainstream is the ability to grind down old projects and turn them back into filament to print again - this will be truly amazing. At the moment it's doable, just a bit error prone - give it a year or two...!
Great to hear your thoughts, I've covered this in comment below - but 4 mins is an interesting attention span to reflect on....! I could create versions for short attention spans and longer form for more focused types - there's so much interesting research in this space!
Interesting topic. HOWEVER...State the problem in 30 to 45 seconds. Move to discussion of solutions. Left this video at 5:45. Solution not in sight. Disappointing.
Great observations - and I think you might be right in this video, I put a couple of theoretical sections in and I know 'immediate gratification/attention spans are something people struggle with these days. It's actually something I'm toying with at the moment. I definitely want to appeal to longer-form, broader thinkers - not just the 'what', but the 'why'. I mean neurological attention spans have been hammered down in the last decade from 2mins 45 to 75secs at last count - so I think there's a lot to be said for slowing people down and getting them to think more broadly, rather than machine gunning the short term answers at them - Jonathan Haidt's new book covers the impacts of this in detail: The Anxious Generation. I might even do a video on it... it'd be a study in itself to see how long people can focus... :)
So, you have a thin skin. I've enjoyed some of your other videos, and given you likes for those. And I didn't give a thumbs down on this one, because I respect the effort you put into making videos. You should respect our time. Edit out the superfluous. Don't take cheap shots at constructive criticism. I have found that deep thinkers typically want to get to the point, so they can think deeply about the topic, instead of sorting through the fluff.😘
Not at all, think you might be suffering from the limits of text interpretation on the web! A lot gets lost - re-read my comment, I literally said 'great observations' and 'I think you might be right' - I actually agree with you on this, but I'm conscious there's lots of other comments and messages that disagree, so I'm keen to be analytical and not take either my view or your comment as autocratic...! I think there's a neat balance and I can work it out with the right feedback, so I thought your comments were great - which is what I said! I disagree on the deep thinkers being 'to the point' - if you have any studies here, that'd be great to see - most of the psychology/neuroscience I know points the other way - in very crude terms the fast-paced thinkers are 'to the point' types, but these are great to cater for - I like the idea of a 'skip' flag that I could mention in videos - so if you don't want to understand any of the 'why' in my thinking, you can just jump to the 'answer' - this might cater nicely for both types! Welcome your thoughts though, I don't profess to be any expert in this - I'm just conscious of the research into 'short sharp content' has hardly been praiseworthy for learning, so it's something that interests me! Really do love the feedback though - I just like to debate /analyse things, so don't take it as anything other - think you're great!
@@handsonkatie Perhaps the _" 'skip' flag[s] "_ could be included by adding timestamps in the video description? 🤔 I know it takes a bit of extra work (if there's not already an automatic 🤖 A.I. tool for it ). Which is why I've posted timestamps in the comments, on a couple of your videos. But if the video creator adds them in the description, then the UA-cam player will show them as 'chapters' (not unlike in ye olden days of DVDs 📀🤭). And you could of course mention in videos (or thrown in some overlay text post-edit), for "people in a hurry / having a short attention span" they can fast forward to a certain time. 😁 Anyway, my personal opinion is that I do enjoy the storytelling format. With some funny bits (like at 15:35 🙈🤣) thrown in, every now and then.
I was just starting to organize my new Maker space and was struggling with the small to large gap with gridfinity.
At the same time i discovered this channel and this video. Serendipity at its finest
The stars align!!! Glad it's helped you think!!
One thing that has helped me a lot with cables is a simple ziplock bag. The use of the ziplock bag keeps the cables from getting tangled with each other. I take each cable (no more than 3 cables of the same kind in a single bag, else tangling might occur) and place it in a bag, using a sharpie to indicate what the cable is for. These can be tossed in a box with zero concern for tangling. It would be great to see how a grid system could be added to this to better organize things. Keep going, Katie; I love your creative (artistic) engineering approaches.
Brilliant idea - I love these sorts of elegant and simple solutions - as you say, it completely tackles the issue of tangling of cables! Thank you for your kind comments too!
I like rubber bands. I just coil the cables and wrap a band around them. Similar ethos it sounds like
for cables I use the tubes from toilet paper. I found that rolls of cables easily turn into knots. If you fold them back and forth, you can put them into tubes (or use cable ties instead). You can place the tubes in vertical orientation in boxes. If you keep the connectors on top, you always see which cable it is.
You have my attention. Great content and delivery, dash of humor, bit of nerdy and a pinch of allure
Honestly I think she's an actress and there's a team of people behind preparing the content. Unless she's a genius engineer and artist, capable of freehand video shooting of herself from a distance, printing printfarm-scalw jobs on 1 printer, a lifting expert, goood mechanical engineer with many design capabilities, programmer, reasonable electric engineer, good actress in front of the camera, etc. Still it's a very good content, very open source oriented, pro-social and beneficial, 👍👍👏
@@oakld How fucking rude to reduce her to a sock puppet. All because it's too hard for you to believe that a woman has spent a lot of time and effort developing these skills, unlike you
I'm glad I found this video. I had also settled on french cleats + multiboard + gridfinity. Neogrid seems like the missing link for what I've been using milk crates for. I'm excited to start with it.
Great minds think alike!! Sounds like you're ready to rock then!!
Oh my God I love so much that you unified four separate open standards! That's cool as hell. I just moved this weekend. I was already planning on doing more Gridfinity in my new space, but I love that I can roll in these new standards! I think I'm also going to make silicone molds for a few basic components like base plates and basic bins so I can cast them in urethane resin. The only downside of these systems is the print time.
Great to hear you found it useful - I can certainly see the stars starting to align on these things, so I thought I'd given them a shove... :) I'm also looking at creating open source standards for drawers, cabinets also so you can easily construct these too! I love your silicone mold idea - that's genius! I might have a think about that - the idea of printing one larger container mold and then 'pouring the rest' is a great idea to batch out extra versions....!
@@handsonkatie urethane resins can also cure in like 15 minutes, so they massively cut down reproduction time. Honestly the only thing that has held me back from doing more Gridfinity so far is the print time on my single printer. I definitely want the open standard for drawers too! I use organizational systems when they are in place, but if they're not, I don't organize at all.
Exactly right!! Standards rule!
This is one of the best put-together videos on youtube. Well organised, you could say
Thank you, glad you found it helpful! And extra points for the pun! ;)
Great stuff. From one engineer to another: thanks! Spend most of my working life pushing the benefits of modularity and interoperability whilst putting up with my cupboards and drawers being a messy hodgepodge! Liked and subscribed.
I've been 3d printing custom designed pieces that fit on a French cleat wall for my garage. My woodworking skills really aren't up to the challenge of making holders and what not but I can design them for 3d printing easy enough! It's surprising how strong a good 3d print can be and they hang on the cleats no problem. I even have 3d printed shelves with a gridfinity base that hang on the cleats.
We're like twins from across the world! Yes, I've done exactly the same! People wildly underestimate how strong 3D Printed cleats can be - they're super convenient to produce and have all the advantages of french cleats of wood! I'm going to cover all this in my workshop series, so there'll be masses of free things for you to pinch for your workshop!
This is actually really clever. I expected standard tips, but this a good idea. And a good job bridging existing systems. Cheers!
It's criminal this channel only has 10k subs! I think many people can benefit from watching your content, keep up the good work.
Thank you, you're very kind - I've only been going a few months, so wonderful if you can help spread the word in forums, Reddit and anywhere else that you think people might be interested in my madness!! 🤣🤣
It's already doubled!
I have been reoptimising my workshop space over the years and hit a few dead ends, looking forward to this series, to maybe help solve a few issues. Hope you're having a good week.
Exactly the same, hence I had enough ...!
Thanks for the insights into something so practical. Unfortunately, I got in trouble when my wife caught me smiling from across the room while I was watching your video. I may have to watch your future videos in private, 😅
So glad you said French Cleat as I just finished lining workshop walls.. now to print storage items to mount on the cleats.
A fine choice indeed - they'll serve you well! I'm going to upload a whole pile of 3d print components that connect to french cleats too - even 3d printed french cleats are helpful themselves sometimes!
I'm no engineer, in fact I'm more of a Necessity DIY'er.. 😂. However, the last thing I made from scratch was French Cleat to store my chisels in my shed....
@@actiondefence Well then you're already 25% of the way there....🤓
Thanks for your vid and am looking forward to the follow up and approaches you have per room! Couldn't have come at a better time to inspire my ongoing spring cleaning / organizing.
Challenge: In the kitchen we have a lot of containers and jars stored separately from their lids. Finding the correct lid for a specific container/jar is a challenge, specially due to the high variety of sizes.
Oooh awesome example, I know exactly what you mean and they're a great example of what I think is silly!! I'll add that to my kitchen hit list!!! 😀
One of the ways I've tackled this is by getting rid of most of my storage containers and switching to deli containers. They come in various useful sizes, and all use the same lids. They're cheap enough to give away or throw out when they start wearing out, but can be washed and reused many times. Meal prep containers are another answer and come in various depths and with/without compartments.
Those don't meet every need, of course. I keep one set of nesting Lock & Lock glass containers for food I'm sure I'll reheat as-is. No need to track down the lids, since they're always on the container. I keep a couple of very large tupperware containers for storing bulk soup, leftover pizza from a party, loaves of bread, large quantities of baked goods for a pot luck, etc. The lids stay under the container.
Now, when it comes to mason jars, I'm with you. The best I've come up with is storing the rings on a loop of twine and hanging it up. The rest is just tossed in a basket of various mason jar accessories. Regular and wide mouth just mixed together.
@@bloodgain I've done pretty much the same as you! But I standardized on having only "wide-mouth" mason jars so that every size (I have 4 / 8 / 16 / 32 oz) takes the same lids. Since the mason jars tend to be used for staples (oatmeal, cereals; nuts, dried fruits; honey, other sweeteners, stevia; dried beans, lentils, split peas; rices, pastas; etc., they usually stay in use so the lid storage isn't an issue so far.
I have an extensive collection of herbs, spices, special "mixes" (chai spice to add to any tea, "ranch" for salad dressing or dip), and various drink powders (cocoa, coffee substitutes I like, instant ice tea). I'm standardizing those with a) re-used half-size shaker spice jars for items less used (chili powder), b) a set of glass spice jars in a spinner (color-coded with color dots on the lids and a "legend" pasted to the top of the spinner), and c) a drawer of short, wide jars for items used in larger quantities (drinks mixes, extra quantities of favorites bought in bulk).
It's not that I'm a gourmet cook, not at all, but I like variety in my food and to experiment (hence the wide assortment of dry goods and herbs/spices), _not_ in my containers and accoutrements (hence the simplification and standardization). 😉
@@nodoboho Yeah, I will probably give all my regular mouth jars to my mom or donate them on Craigslist. I prefer the wide mouth ones now.
Extremely clever and well done. I've been observing how disorganized spaces affects my life and have a myriad of algorithms to make less so...yet this is next level first cause thinking. While containerization is one of my tactics, this takes that to an entire strategy based on the four systems.
Ooh, I'm so glad I already own a 3D printer. 😂
Looking forward to this series. 😊
Oh, then you'll be well equipped .... and avoid my clamps..... 😂😂
My 3D printer is at the ready.....bring it on 😉
Still.....I do like the look of your.....clamps 😅
This is soooo brilliant 👏
Great to hear!!
I think my biggest problem is the one most of us face: flat surfaces collect random items until it gets bad enough that I deal with it. And then half of that stuff gets tossed in a different room that is just collecting random items I don't know where or can't be bothered to store. Of course, the underlying issue is probably a lack of organized storage (and a little laziness...).
However, I did try organizing my linen closet so that medical/first aid supplies and toiletries all had a tupperware bin to go to. Some of them are too full, and there's not enough room to store more bins, even though there's technically usable space if it was organized differently. And I still have to dig through a bin to find what I need. It's the default for commercially-available storage, but it's just not a great system!
Think you're spot on bloodgain - lack of storage places is exactly where this begins. If our brains have an obvious place to put things, it's cognitively 'easy', if we need to think of a location, it's 'hard' - ie doesn't get done. Your second comment is exactly where I'm been redesigning in this video - it's amazing how unstandardised and unadaptable the commercial storage solutions are....!
For bathroom items, if I have to combine items in a single bin, I try to "batch" them using ziploc bags of various sizes. So maybe toothpastes in one, toothbrushes in another, etc. with all the "oral hygiene" stuff in one bin. I use plastic chests of drawers (Sterilite) of different sizes under my bathroom and kitchen sinks, where they fit well on either side of the drainpipe and keep things organized in that otherwise big, open space.)
I, too, struggle with the "too much trouble to figure out where to put this" problem. The clutter and organization books/articles/videos I look at (instead of actually decluttering/organizing) sometimes say that if you don't have room to store all your stuff... _you've got too much stuff_ ! Instead of getting more storage containers, the recommendation is to reduce the amount of stuff to fit the storage space you have. I think they have a point. (I'm working on it....)
@@nodoboho I definitely have too much stuff! I don't want to just toss meds, first aid stuff, and toiletries that will be good for years, though. I should probably donate a bunch of it. If I had a basement, I'd buy some used store shelving and build my own little stop-and-shop in it!
This is a great chat - probably a video in its own right. There's this quantum of 'need' - ie there's rarely any issue with deciding about whether to keep those things you use all the time, nor those things you never need. The vast majority of stuff is in the variable value space - all those nuts, bolts, washers, meds, brackets, tapes and so on are pretty low value most of the time.... but when you need them for that broken bracket, sore head or whatever, they're super valuable to have and actually very expensive to not. Eg having to stop the project, drive down to the big box store (time/cost), buy a bag of bolts (high cost) and drive back. I love the idea of a stop-and-shop - wouldn't it be amazing if we could 'share' online all the components and bits and bobs we're happy to share with neighbours...!
@@handsonkatie Oh, gosh, yes, like a shared maker space but for sharing bits and bobs that only have value in avoiding a shopping trip for one little thing! I just saw a post on the local subreddit where somebody was looking for a local source for a Raspberry Pi and some 74-series chips, and a couple of people chimed in to say they had some they'd trade for if the OP couldn't find any.
I have already started with Gridfinity and love the modularity of it.
I like your Neogrid, blending Gridfinity, printed parts and available slats.
I was starting to use HSW, but like the multiboard approach. I will likely switch over to it. Some of my HSW parts can be adapted to it. Others may find limited use on one wall, (that may be departing soon anyway.)
I have french cleat on my wall over my heavy workbench, and enjoy how easy it is to build a new fixture for it.
I have several of the square shelving units (1 foot by 1 foot grid) that I am trying to figure something out for. They end up taking square bins that accumulate clutter. I'm thinking some kind of drawer inserts to put other organizers in.
Love it Glenn - sounds like you and me think alike! Regarding the shelving units, yes, I find vertical height is often the challenge area - too much air and not enough storage. I often end up building in shallow drawers to allow me to have a stack of them within the cube, then I just rebuild the shelving units myself....!
The question is, can I use this video to convince my wife that I'm really buying a 3D printer to reduce her stress? I'm doing her a favor.
That's not how it will happen. You will get to purchase your printer, but never get to use the darn thing because she will take it over. I hear you now. Buy two printers right? Nope. Now she has doubled her output of creativity while you are still trying to figure out where you went wrong. Ask me how I know. 😂😂😂
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- a wife
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Guilty as charged, sir.... 🤭
I’m really enjoying the production and would love to know the behind the scenes equipment, software and hardware you use to produce such great content.
Awesome idea! To be honest, cables are still my nemesis. From small USB cables to my collection of random power cables, they won’t stay in their container and become a tangled mess.
I've got a few ideas for those - agree cables are an endless battle though!!! 🫣
Mine usually stay organized when looped and slid into a toilet paper tube (or section if the cable doesn't fit well) or else wrapped around the tube, then ends tucked through. The tube could be covered in nice paper or something to standardize or color-code or just make it pretty. Or just write what it's for on the tube with a marker and throw the thing into the "cables" bin/drawer/box with the others.
This is a great idea - I've designed something very similar, you can get slightly more space efficient than circles if you use honeycomb-style designs - I'll upload these in the near future once I'm happy with the sizings! But love simple solutions when they're available too - I'd actually probably avoid covering/papering them - it does look less polished, but suddenly you move from an endless supply of cable organisers being produced 'automatically' (without getting into your toilet habits!) to a chore that you need to maintain! If you want something nice, then I'd go with a 3d print that you can fire and forget in seconds, if you don't mind it being a bit rough and ready (eg storage in your attic or out of sight), then toilet roll rubes are a brilliant idea. You could also use kitchen roll tubes which are twice the length for any larger usb cables.
@@handsonkatie Well, I'm also pretty frugal and I've seen other possible uses for them, so I've been saving them up; paper towel ("kitchen roll") tubes as well. At this point, I think I've run out of cords and cables to put in them, so I can start using them for supposedly plantable seedlings cups or pitching them into the recycling bin. I'm also big on efficiency and also lazy, so I was just using the ones that were white and smooth (not the gray cardboardy ones) and hand-printing a short label on it with a marker. They are out-of-sight in a bin that fits under a shelving unit.
I just hit 'print' on a bunch of usb cable organisers that I just designed based on your thoughts...!! Love the idea of the planters, would degrade nicely and much better than those shop ones that degrade, but constrain the roots at the base. I'm gonna pinch that idea!! ❤❤❤😊
Here's the thorn in MY side... my 3d printed models! I have an obsession with printing and displaying all sorts of robots, from ED-209 to R2D2. Some big, some small - I want to display them but they take up sooo much shelf space and I'm rapidly running out (Probably going to just need some more floating shelves!)
Oooh - open source shelves and cabinets required??? Coming up.....! 🥰
@@handsonkatie nice! I've actually been thinking I'd like to give designing and 3d printing some furniture a go (I need to make a custom shelving unit to fill an odd shaped space in the bedroom - but then I thought... why not do garden seats, maybe a table, ...)
Absolute Genius and for the average ADHDer its a game changer. Certainly going to allow me to tidy my draw of doom and my socks will have a home 🥰
Glad it helped!
Loving this idea. I sat here trying to find a mess use case that could really stress test your systems, so how about these:
- opened bags of crisps, and similar, "baggy" items that we don't really want to move to another container and have a relatively small lifespan.
- consumable first-in-first-out storage like groceries (I might be hungry 🙂)
Also I got to say your videos are really cool, the combination of nerdiness and editing skills is on point
Ooh I love these ideas - I'll tackle the crisp idea in the kitchen, got some ideas already - great use case! Thanks for your kind comments too - the nerdiness I can't help, but the editing skills will hopefully improve!
To close the open bags, I use standard office supply binder clips. Commercial products sold especially for bags are harder to use or less durable/sturdy. Simply fold the corners on the open end of the bag in to make a point, fold the point over 3-4 times, clip it. Now where to put those bags...
@@Sylvan_dB I use clothes line clips (not sure if this is the actual name in english), but indeed the "mess" comes more from were to put them. Currently they go on a shelf in the pantry, but it does not seem right, so I'm eager to see Katie's approach.
Are you being cheeky with your logo? Now I am going to have to make my own grids for my kids' garden house and Barbie houses too.
Ok, now how do we apply this same concept to car camping / overland gear storage? My wife and I have a big camping trip planned for the end of this summer. It's always a struggle planning on what to take, where to store it, and how to access everything. It starts great, but ends up a chaotic mess shortly into a camping trip. I have been researching SUV camp drawer and kitchen builds for months, and now you've really got me thinking!
That's a great use case, I could see loads of cool uses that you could apply!!
Hi Katie. another great video... i've had a 3D printer for years but its packed away at the moment due to moving. once I have it set back up, i'll deffo be printing some of these storage solutions for my new Man-cave!
Keep up the good work. oh and if we were not both married.. i'd ask you out for a drink ;-) x
Awesome - hope they help with the mancaving!!! 🤣🤣
Mostly looking forward for tips organising a desk with all of its cables, power strip and small items like pens, flask drives etc.
As well as organising the plethora of spare construction material in all different shapes and sizes.
Don't own a 3D printer though. I'm concerned about the VOC's since our house is nearly air tight.
Super - have some stuff on this in plan after my pc build series. Also might do a short on the VoC point, have some smart sensors for this...! Although they're actually really not a problem since filaments like ABS went out of fashion and filters/enclosures became more common...! Might be worth keeping an eye out for that test!
I was kind of thinking there would be some great revelation here, but it's all stuff I knew about, with the exception of the self-created grid solution, that may or may not be relevant, have to see what it can do. But you can't just engineer your way out of the problem, you also need to organize your way out of the problem. Principles like Lean can apply 100% to homes, at least many parts of it. For instance, unnecessary travel; if you have your dishwasher on one end, and store you plates on the other end, you're forever walking back and forth. If your clothing articles are placed sub-optimally, you're also going back and forth. Labeling and marking down exactly where something should be tells you that if it's not there, you've messed up returning it or you ran out and need to re-order, etc. Technological solutions help, but at the end of the day the reason organization fails is because the people stop adhering to maintaining the organization.
Great comment - yes a lot of this is seemingly common sense (indeed as I highlight, much like the Agile Manifesto was seemingly common sense when it launched) - but the reality is there are no standards in home organisation, so this creates cognitive friction. Definitely lots of other points like travel - I'll cover these in the individual room videos - this is key, especially in workshops. I think I lean much more to the neuroscientific view on why these systems fail - ie people don't just stop adhering to the maintenance, there's a bit more complexity - much like people don't just gain weight because they 'want to'.....! Time and focus are other factors that weigh in too in this!
The overlooked solution with dishwashers is to have more of them.
If you replace cabinet lowers with additional dishwashers you can just use them to store dishes.
As a starting point, think about having 2 -- one is your "clean" dishwasher, the other is your "dirty" dishwasher.
As you use things, transfer from one to the other.
Once you have enough in the "dirty" washer, run a cycle and then swap which one is treated as dirty.
I have a challenge for you to organize, one geek woman to another. Where and how do I store all my RPG terrain and miniatures? I do try and magnetize all my bases and then store the minis in scrapbook bins because they fit perfectly in an Ikea cubby. I also have a PS1 and am currently waiting for my next order of filament to start printing multiboard and gridfinity parts.
Ooooooooh!!!! Now I tell you, I thought about this as I was making some of these 3d models!! I don't really do miniatures myself (although not sure why not as I love board games/gaming in general and love all the intricate details!), but I was thinking about how I could create the 'ultimate miniatures set' at some point - could have organisers for all the paints, brushes and storage drawers for the finished miniatures themselves, think it'd be a great project! Drop me an email on my site and we should brainstorm some ideas - I think a lot of the systems I've covered should work really well for you, but I'm happy to model any 'gaps' that you need solutions for!!! Love the idea though - it's a perfect project! PS I've also got a 'Smart Gaming Table' project on my backlog too, I've been listing all the features I want to include and then I can build it!
Wow i just discovered you channel and I F$%#ng love it! thanks for the 3d designs! you are the best keep the good content coming!
Well F$%#ng thank you! 😅 Lots more coming up, but keep sharing ideas and problems, so I can try and fix them all - love the ideas!
Love this approach! Great content, thank you!
Katie, one of the major drawbacks of organization imo is the time and investment put into prior or existing organization attempts. For instance, my wife and I built a new house and have A LOT of items of all kinds and all sizes just in boxes in the basement. Christmas decorations, other home decorations, kitchen organization items, clothing, tools, electronics, etc.
So far, our organizational ideas have consisted of building three 7ft high, 30" deep, and with 4 tiers including the concrete floor. - 24' long in total.. We have purchased semi-transparent storage containers that are roughly 18"H X 20" W X 30" L. These have opaque lids, but our idea is that with using a labeler and the fact they are transparent allows us to see what's in them without opening them up unnecessarily.
To begin our organizational journey, we are determining 2 things. 1. Do we want to keep this? 2. How soon will we use this? Answer to question one is either Yes or No of course, if no, trash it or sell it... For question 2, Imminent use goes on Tiers 1 and 2 - most accessible with later possible use going on tiers 3 and 4 at the top, less accessible of course.
I really like your methodology, but not certain how could be reasonably applied to our home. I will say that if I had time and energy, applying what you here to my workshop for tools, nails, screws, etc, sounds feasible. I do really look forward to seeing how you have applied this first hand to your home for a guide and as a reference....
Brilliant thinking here and you're spot on - I've got a video this week showing how I've applied it to my craft room that touches on your exact points (eg frequency of use and so on). Remember with a 3d printer, it's not your time and energy - you'd hit 'print' on 25 boxes and leave it to work away overnight!
Like you, I love curves. Nature knows what it's doing, and they are a joy to look at!
But you are absolutely correct that grids are the best way to organise our world.
I discovered gridfinity about a year ago and also know french cleats. Thanks for introducing the other 2, they do appear to be a knock out combination (though I think Zack covered using gridfinity for the walls too).
I'm looking forward to this series, especially suggestions on hanging really heavy items on a wall - think server racks and other hardware for example. If you can suggest approximately how much weight each solution could support on different wall types (real brick, partition wall, etc.) and the best ways to attach the grid support to them that would be amazing!
Oooh great suggestions - yes Gridfinity 'sort of' works for the wall, but it doesn't really mechanically fix, so for some items you just need screws - multiboard is great for this. On the hanging weights, great idea - although I might go one better and just strength test the lot of them!
@@handsonkatie also, completely off-topic... After watching your previous video and discovering your channel, I went on a bit of a "binge" to see what else you had published, and noticed that you had a few welsh words in some vids - more please, I love learning languages :)
Even more off-topic, if you could find a way to slip in that long welsh place name that everyone mentiones but noone can remember (you know the one ;)), said by a real welsh person and then maybe slowly broken down into the sounds so the rest of us can try to remember it, that would be cool (I seem to manage to remember some of the bits in the middle, and of course the end like most people)
@@chrisdixon5241😂😂😂 My nain and taid lived near there, so of course i can - ill see if i can work it in.... 😂
Great video. I love your style of informative videos. I have one 3D printer, and the second one is coming. I will be using your techniques in my home office.
Great to hear Jack! Oooh I'm redesigning my home office in the coming weeks, I'll run videos on that too, so let me know if anything you want to solve in particular and I'll try and incorporate, otherwise, hopefully it'll give you some food for thought!!
Looking forward to more in this series!
Metric system for the win
Metric wins hands down on any scientific/precise measurement - imperial has it's place as it's based on 'things' so its often more relevant - eg a 6 foot+ man is a tall man, whereas a 180cm man or 185cm man - in this case the precision of metric loses the ability to broadly group. Other than that, metric wins!
just bought wood and a saw today so i can make french cleats - I'd come to the same conclusion!! I didn't know about neogrid but 100% adding it to my too-print list, so THANK YOU for that. Love that its gridfinity compatible. The only thing I'm on the fence about is multiboard -- honeycomb wall system seems more popular though? and more community engagement too. But I confess I like the look of multiboard though. I have visions of putting up french cleats in my mudroom so I can put shoe shelves but then also make a multiboard-or-honeycomb-wall-system that attaches to the french celat, so I can have a small section that also is just, like, random little hooks and a place to put the dog's foot-cleaning cloths, and hook umbrellas to and so on.... Hm.... maybe the multiboard's holding weight makes it the winner though
the fact that multiboard is, like, just one guy.. so much of gridfinity is also about how many other people are making models (so i dont have to). i haven't printed any HWS yet but I was going to... so on the fence about the small/vertical
Hey Rebecca! 👋 😊 Brilliant approach and think you're working through it in the right way, ie logically! Multiboard is definitely superior in my view (I played with honeycomb, pegboards and so on) - the holding weight of 20kg+ and the ability to screw is so much more useful. You know there's also honeycomb converters for Multiboard? (Ie so all the honeycomb models will work with it?). Likewise for pegboard, Gridfinity and more. It is overcomplicated, hence my approach to just KISS it all, but the basic system is great! But have a play, it's all free so just test honeycomb, Multiboard etc and go with what works, but you won't regret the french cleats!! (I've got a range of adapters for those too - eg 3d printed french cleat holders etc!!)
@@handsonkatie I've been doing french cleats in home and now in garage, with plans to do some in the various points throughout. I love that they can hold weight and I'm slowly working towards being able to do something I can put in my house (roundovers and painted and sanded) and using the garage as learning.
I couldn't do multiboard though. I printed the test package, and I get your idea of just cherry-picking the must-needs. But I was consumed with frustration at the system and complexity and creator, the lack of documentation. It might be technically superior solution but I'm going with Ikea skadis. When french cleats didn't go well or my gridfinity failed I was still filled with joy and eagerness and willingness to work through it and figure things out, combined with the underlying simplicity. every experience with multiboard just made me cranky and I realized it was okay to gravitate toward joy.
Maybe when Multiboard settles down I could reconsider, but in the meantime skadis seems simple enough for what I need, can hold enough weight for me, has lots of 3dprinted add-ons, and I can probably manage my own skadis additions so I'm pretty happy with it overall
Still loving your approach to organization, it's been very influentical on me. I am trying to keep in mind a preference for simple reusable bins instead of super-customized things - very insightful!
@@rebeccakeller4666 Heh, I do know what you mean - as I covered, I really just use three or four multiboard components and ignore the rest (using Gridfinity or David D's solution which does everything I need) - check out my video coming out today for even more examples of this, but note how I really just use one multiboard grid and a custom snap connector to do everything! As you say, keep enjoying the organising though, that's the most important thing!! 😊
Brilliant video and will be showing to the Mrs as ammunition that 3D printers are not useless and I /we need one lol
Can i also add that the production level on your videos are superb
Thank You
Great to hear you found it useful and thank you, it means a lot - I only started doing videos for the first time a few months ago!!
What usually ends up being a mess you ask? usually the women I date. Can you solve that? where do I find a smart one like you?
Just discovered your channel and you are really creative and given me so many ideas. Thumbs up on your videos, unfortunaly youtube only let me give you one thumb up not more.
Thank you!! Glad you found the video useful and you made me smile!! 😁😁
For me it's my shed. Small size and large tools. I have got a 3d printer and have started to print gridfinity. I'll also check out your website. Cool video
Ooh, wait a few weeks for my smart garden video! That features shed management so should be lots of files for you to pinch!! 😊
You clever girl! I like the idea of 42mm grids. I'm humored and educated all at once! You do a fabulous job of sharing your insights and grid solutions. Well done video editing, and creative engineering ideas. What brand of 3D printer are you using? Cheers Katie. You're the best and I love your videos. Rounded, curved surfaces, who knew? Keep up the great videos!
Thank you, you're lovely!! 🥰🥰🥰 I use Bambu Labs P1S mainly!!
Yarn storage and my tiny linen cupboard are the problem areas I have. I'm interested in seeing your future videos in how your 4 systems interconnect to become solutions.
Oooh yes, yarn (or wool over this side of the pond here!) - I've got plenty of that to organise, so that'll be part of the sewing room rebuild. Linen - will look to work that in too!
Interested to see how this progresses!
Really like your concept of NEOGRID. I've run into similar issues with Gridfinity. Examples being stuff like calipers, rulers, or spanner wrenches. I want to keep them with the smaller items due to how I am grouping. I've considered just making Gridfinity trays as a catch all but the trays end up needing to be bigger than the printer base. This might be a good compromise verses trying to calculate how to structurally join tray pieces together and still remain strong. Have you considered doing a video on just NEOGRID and different ways you implement it?
Hey Troy! Thank you, glad you found it helpful! 😊 Yes I have actually, in fact I've already recorded it, so it should be not too much longer - but first I've done another even more common ask, to see my Underware!! 😂 Cable management video coming this week!
Hey Katie,
I love your videos and you're a natural UA-cam presenter. I've been using and designing parts for gidfinity for some time now and love that system. But I have use for a portable solution for my organizational needs. My models are located in the same place as your Neogrid prints and i go by Handy Handcrafts. It would be nice if you had Neogrid models that snapped into to the Multiboard system. I can offer my design skills i you'd like. I may design my own containers as well for Multiboard that meet my specific needs. Keep up the great videos and we'll keep watching!
Hey thanks HikerDad - I try my best! What's your thoughts on the NeoGrid option - more than happy to model anything required or you're welcome to have the design files too, just struggling to picture what you're describing, but I like a challenge! Do you use discord? We could chat in my server there I've set up so I can share files/pictures easier?
@@handsonkatieI sent you a message on your Let's connect webpage
FAN.... TASTIC. I love this. FINALLY - I feel like I'm so close to actually being able to sort things out. This is just the thing. I have been struggling with a concept. I'm familiar with Gridfinity but wasn't aware of Multiboard plus your addons.
What I would really appreciate seeing is a PROPER chaos to organised. The problem is I never know where to start. And every video I see on this topic doesn't match my situation. However your approach of adaptable is game changing for me. Would love to see more.
Well keep watching, I'll be covering lots of other rooms in future - including a big project this summer!
@@handsonkatie excited much!! Is that wrong? Should I be THIS excited about organising?
@@gavintheurquhart it's so wrong, it's right!! 😂😂😂
Great videos and awesome take on these concepts. Looking forward to the follow up vids and watching this channel grow. Keep it up 👍🏽
Much appreciated!
I didn't know Gridfinity, but mainly because I ignored it, I actually thought I don't need such a system (I don't have many drawers). But you convinced me that it may indeed be useful beyond drawers. I especially like the converter things... that's a really good idea. I already thought, using boxes on a multiboard would not be flexible enough. I would usually take some boxes to the place I work with them, e.g. in the garden or another desk (they are always overcrowded, so I have several of them). I use transparent boxes to store but also carry around tools and things. Converters solve this.
Brilliant examples and I love the toilet roll example, I might invent a 3d print for that I think! I've just published a new video that might bring some of this to life even more!
@@handsonkatie actually, I think it could be a module for Gridfinity, 42x42 is a good size for most cables (e.g. Audio). Some cables are a bit too big and too stiff for one toilet roll (e.g. 240V cables), instead I would use two Gridfinity rectangles for these. Some small cables could also be two per rectangle. I guess such boxes already exist? May be not the necessary height? the boxes do not need to be round
@@handsonkatie I have some quite old assortment boxes with a see through cover. Those contain little boxes sized by a base raster, some with a multiple of the raster, but no grid at the bottom. I always wanted more of them, but never found an alternative product. I should probably create my own and use Gridfinity raster for them. Mine have an inner size of 29.2mm x 22.8mm (well 30 x 23.5 outside with cover, it's a practical size, full of screws they are still not too heavy. A box has an inner sie of 7.2mm x 5.6 mm, so most screws fit inside (I use them for screws, mainly for the 3D printer, and for electronic parts)
@@aribowellexactly right, I already do this! Watch out in future videos and I'll show them. But it's also a nice idea to use toilet roll, I was thinking I could create a little 3d printed cap and Gridfinity base and then you could just clip them onto toilet rolls to turn them into more rigid containers!
@@aribowellthat could be a great use - and if you do the maths, you can work out what Gridfinity pattern fits best for them and have them inter compatible! 😎
Great video and intesting concept, Yet I fail to see how it will ensure the wife puts the kitchen ware back in the correct places. If it can do that i'll stop borrowing my mates 3D printer and get my own.😂
Looking forwards to where this voyage of discovery takes us and hoping I can find the chopsticks or measuring bowl without checking every draw or cupboard soon.
Ah, the cognitive challenge.... that's actually something I'll cover in future videos - whether I can fix your other half is another question (she may just do it deliberately to annoy you.... 😅😅😅 ) - but I'll have a go!!
@@handsonkatie if you're willing to try then I will give it a go.😂🤣🤣🥳
I got a 3d printer. Everything I do ends up a mess. I've never been capable of organizing anything, and I expect that if I put something in some random place in my house it better still be there when I come back to it a few months later. That isn't working out because I have a family that likes to do things such as clean and just ya know live in the same space as me. Tell me how to organize my stuff, lady!
😅😅😅😅😅😅 Let's face this battle together!
nice video ! Looking forward to the next ones :)
Thanks!
I think you summarized the problem and solution approach well. I have been building both multiboard and gridfinity solutions independently for a while. I do not think they integrate well and will be interested in your solutions.
I am intrigued by neo and followed you down the rabbit hole ... hope you can provide a "utility board" compatible product available in the US else it will be difficult to include that component into the system. 😢😢😢 ( the US is never going to go metric in my lifetime )
Thanks Carl - yes, the various converters between Gridfinity and Multiboard have been essential I'd say - I'll tour these in detail in upcoming videos.
As for Neogrid, well the design is parametric, so very easy to fit any width of material, so if you can find some consistent similar material in the US and state the width, I can easily generate all the files to fit. I've used 6mm MDF for example in testing it and it works great!
I look forward to more instructional videos on integrating these organizational systems.
I am teaching myself F360 and will try to find an appropriate material to test neo. I have been building boxes out of 3mm cardboard using a similar set of connectors.
I'm still looking forward to getting a 3D printer 😀
love this vid lol
Amazing!!! Looking forward to this project! Do you have a idea how the Multiboard system can be used like IKEA Skadis system, that can be attached to a freestanding desk?
I've done exactly this in my workshop, so watch out for that video and I'll share more details! But yes you can get freestanding attachments like this:
thangs.com/search/%22MB25%22%20creator%3A%22Keep%20Making%22?scope=thangs&view=list&affiliateCode=hendricks
Is that what you mean?
@@handsonkatie Yes, right this. I'm asking myself how stable the Multiboard is when it's freestanding. I'm looking forward to learn from your workshop organisation!!
@@senjos4805super, well let's see and I can obviously design a super stable version if needed! 😊
@@handsonkatie ☺☺
@_handsonKatie2440 So many hearts 🥰
Has the revolution been postponed? Eagerly awaiting the next video!
🤣🤣 oh no, it's just keeping up with all my projects that's the challenge!! It's coming soon! (Been ill for a couple of weeks too as an excuse! 🤒🤒🤒)
As I looked at the clutter surrounding the laptop upon which I watched your video, I felt pretty convicted. 😬Although, I am a generalist, I'd be particularly keen on some deep dives into how you put your system into practice. How did you create your taxonomy and ontology? What were the driving factors? This is guidance I could use. Although creating such data constructs is my everyday work life, I seem to struggle with tangibles, which seem to pile up. I freeze-framed parts of your video to read your labels for ideas.
May I offer some unsolicited opinions on your videos for your consideration? OK, you're still reading, so I'll take that as a yes. Although you are actually quite dynamic in your presentation (top notch), as a consumer of such content, I tend to find less "talking head" to be better. Your voice track is excellent, but I'd enjoy seeing more visual variety as you narrate. It could be as simple as a few wide shots as you work in your shop, or we see 3D printers at work. Bob from "I Like to Make Stuff" has heavy narrative on his projects, but there are many different things to watch while we're listening.
Since you have posted videos on a variety of topics, I wonder if it might help to create some clever (or cheeky) theme titles to help distinguish videos of one topic from another? I've learned that many UA-camrs will dedicate a channel to a particular topic (e.g. crafting, marketing, etc.) supporting the thought that consumers visit a particular channel for a specific topic. I find your content quite interesting and wonder what you're going to cover next, but maybe others have different expectations and think you will have a focus. Topic titles might provide a nice way to segregate your content.
Please continue to let your sense of humor shine through. It's fun!
I'm really enjoying your work, Katie, so hope you take the comments in the spirit they were intended.
Amazing comment - thank you so much for this - helpful at some many levels! Taxonomy/ontology - oh great question and could be an hour video on its own (although you and me might be the only ones interested!!). At its basis I've actually avoided being too ontological - I think this was a mistake in the past. Much like the web spent too much time in Information Architecture design, before shifting onto tag-based constructs, facets search etc. In very short terms, don't try and define things too much, but focus on letting its ontology adapt if you need to - this is a key part I covered - so if those pliers are now better suited to the workshop, then great I just pick up their container and I know it'll fit in the relevant spot. One driving point is around work optimisation - ie measuring the time it takes you to do a task and seeking to minimise that in your design (are those scissors in reach for cutting the thread, where's my needles and so on). I hope I'll cover this in future videos, so hopefully that will help answer the question in more clarity.
On videos - thank you very much for your kind comments and great ideas - oh there's loads I'd like to do more of. I agree with the extra shots, it's actually loads of work - not least as I'm totally incompetent still having only started video editing/filming for the first time a few months ago. To give you a measure of my ineptness, I actually had to re-film the whole thing as I'd forgotten to plug in the microphone correctly..... idiot! I definitely want to do more visual variety as you say - it's a bit of an odd habit to develop as I've always just ploughed on with projects, so I'm trying to build the habit of filming as I go (I keep forgetting, but I'll try harder!!). Topic titles/categorisation is definitely something I want to do going forward - although it does require me to know what the heck I'm doing in the first place.... 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks again for taking the time to comment, I love comments like this - they're so helpful!
@@handsonkatie Uh, oh, it sounds as if we both work in the same industry for our day jobs. 😅You're right that it might be a pretty limited audience who would want to do a deep dive on ontological discussions. Well, we'd have fun geeking out, at least. I should take a step back and look at some of my repetitive tasks and kaizen [cough, cough] them. But, I am chaos at heart. Organizational nirvana may always remain out of reach for me, but you've piqued my interest. Maybe I can start printing some items, but, oh my word, it will take forever to do it! How entrepreneurial do you feel? Time to get mass production of some of your designs so lazy people can simply purchase them? Hmmmm??????
Your video production skills are actually quite excellent. It's surprising how short a time you've been doing this work, because your lighting, alone, is fantastic, and that's not an easy thing to get right. All of the graphical components have been high-quality and have a consistent aesthetic. These are things that generally take a long time to develop. (My skills are certainly still under development.) Pat yourself on your back, you have done exceptionally well. The content portion is the most difficult thing to nail. How do you pace it, how do you break it up, how do you determine the right length, how do you summarize to make sure the right points have been conveyed? It's just like presentations for our day jobs. I think you're doing really well with your content and am just being picky about wanting greater visual variety. I've been learning this the hard way, myself.
To make you feel better: Although I am a very technical person at heart, I am just as prone to ineptitude as the next person. I was making a video on installing recessed lights and shot this bit of me in our upstairs hallway with a laser level painting a line down the center of the ceiling, as I extolled the virtues of the level. Thought it went OK, packed the camera up and cut a ton of holes in the ceiling. Two months later I looked at the footage. No audio. I asked my wife if she could read my lips (I'm rubbish at that) to see if I could maybe lip synch myself there, because I certainly couldn't reshoot it, since the lights are already installed. Argh! I still don't know what I'm going to do. So, know that you have a brother in arms.
As for getting extra footage, boy do I understand. I thought I would do a video on our extensive kitchen remodel, but bringing out the camera made everything take twice as long and there was SO much to do. I finally decided to keep the camera in the other room and just get the work done. I might regret that. That's why I was thinking if you simply put a camera on a tripod and let it run unattended, it might provide you with the cutaways you need, but without too much extra fuss.
> although it does require me to know what the heck I'm doing in the first place
You're not fooling this guy with such statements!
Thanks for being open to receiving comments. I wish you great success!
Great video - another problem that annoys me is how to incorporate accessible data and audio cabling into a domestic environment. When I did my home extension in 2000, Cat5E was state of the art, but now it’s slow and old hat but it’s inaccessible behind the plaster wall. In an office environment the solution would be cable ducting and false ceilings, but that’s not going to look great at home. I’d prefer not to use wifi, any suggestions?
You're completely right - I'd install plastic tubing (just use 35mm pipe for waste water or something cheap like that) - but that's obviously BEFORE you plaster the walls! I might have a look at this at some point though - I've seen skirting boards that pop off to let you run cables behind them (a very expensive alternative to a few hours with a router IMO! However it might be fun to build cable mounts that integrate on top of skirting and seamlessly seek to 'disappear'.... I'll have a muse!
I don't want to be ashamed of my garage any longer! 😅
My name is GuitarGrin and I've a messy garage.... admitting it is the first step... 😅😅😅
Hey Great video, i love them. However what solutions do you have for a small walk in pantry?
Ooh I've got a walk in drinks larder on the list and a small pantry, so watch out for them!
You didn’t really go into how you integrate the French cleat system into the other storage methods. Are you 3D printing cleats or going the traditional route with wood?
The way you ended the video, it seems like you have 3 options that are more or less integrated plus one solo one for heavy vertical storage. (Which seems pretty accurate, but I’d like to see more of your idea’s for integration, like multiboard based french cleat modules… or whatever you have in mind.) Good video - I enjoyed it and am looking forward to learn more about neogrid in particular
Hey Jon - yes, I've got a whole series coming up which dives into more detail as I tour each room - I thought this would bring it to life more easily! Given there's about 300+ custom models I've built for all the various solutions! To answer your question, I'm doing both - it's really handy to have 3d printed cleat holders for some things (saves buzzing out pieces on the table saw) and then I've cut plywood cleats for lots of other stuff. It's the combination of the two that becomes really powerful - you'll see this in the workshop tour and I've got laser cut and CNC cut patterns for gridfinity, so you can have french cleat shelves with wooden gridfinity bases for example! Oh and I'll do a dedicated neogrid video too in a bit to walk you through that also!
@@handsonkatie I feel like my OCD-like uber-organizing brainworm may keel over in excitement. I know I'm showing my age, but I struggle with most instructional or walk through video's - I just want to read how to do the thing, then get to work on the thing immediately, even though I know there are skills and techniques that really only translate in person or by video. I'm glad I stuck it out and watched this one though & I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
@@jonparker2353 good to hear and keep watching, loads more to come on this..... 😎
The thing that gets my goat is dishes... All the different sizes, shapes, and styles, they don't neatly stack, most of them, and they slip around, don't stay in one place, etc.
Ah, I just went strict on that and bought a set of square, stackable plates, bowls and so on! Bought them years ago and still going strong!
A great video Katie 😃 *raises hand with question* -- what 3D printer are you using that you've printed over a 1000 items in the last few weeks? I have one (i'm embarrassed to say it is a Balco one from Aldi) but it didn't print fast at all and i haven't used it for a few years. It looks llike you might have a Prusa one?
Well I've got er... five ..... 😂😂 First was a Prusa Mk3s, second was a CR10 Max (huge size but I had to basically rebuild it completely to get it to be reliable) and latest are Bambu P1S - I liked the first one so much, I bought two more....! Highly recommend them or their A1 range, you'll be amazed at speed difference Vs Balco....!
@@handsonkatie holy moly! you are really into your 3D printing. Yeah, i can see how you would be able to produce that many items now. The Balco is something like 10-70mm/sec compared to 500mm/sec on the P1S?! crikey! no comparison!
Yes and it's even more of a difference in reality due to all the input shaping and optimisation - highly recommend!
@@handsonkatie Katie you've clearly invested a lot of time and effort fine tuning your 3D printing process! I'd love to see a video that describes what you think are must-haves in a 3D printing set up. I'm yet to take the plunge into the 3D printing world but can see that following your channel might just tip the balance and having your thoughts would be of immeasurable value. "Immeasurable." 🤔Is that metric or imperial?
@@bobthekelpie sounds like a topic for a video in future!
Not sure if i missed it but how exactly is the french cleat interoperable with the other standards?
I would love to see some kind of software assistant that can help me remember where things are stored in my home
Thanks for the video!!!
French cleats - watch this space, it'll naturally come into its own in my workshop video where there's masses of 'heavy items'. In short, I've got 3d printed cleats, gridfinity mounts both in wood and PLA and more....!
Software assistant - yes I agree, I'm musing something similar - the challenge is universal tracking, eg it's easy to track where your phone is as it's a smart/connected device, you can add a tag to your keys, but your glasses, your shoes etc etc? At some point I was plotting using image recognition to have a play with 'last spotted' events for certain objects - not convinced it'd work well enough for small objects yet, but could be a fun project.... until then, watch my sewing room video coming next week that'll dive into more of this and will at least explain how I structure things to make finding them as easy as possible!!
Lol you made me laugh so much, onto of providing awesome advices.
I will buy a 3D printer 😅
🤣🤣 glad you enjoyed and go get that printer...!
What made you decide on Multiboard over Honeycomb Storage Wall?
Hey Scott - main factors were really smart multi format (ie it works with Multiboard, honeycomb, pegboard and more) and strength - very strong format, holds 20kg+ so gives lots more flexibility (and tied to this, the ability to screw in fixtures makes it much stronger than push fit designs)
Thank you for excellent video! Was trying to make neogrid bits but my board is 3 mm thick. The files do not seem to be parametric. Could you make bits for 3 mm boards like you said in the video. Thanks in advance!
Of course! - there's also an fusion 360 file that others have used to adjust themselves, but happy to pull together. Do you want to drop me an email on my website (www.handsonkatie.com)? I'll send you a test version so you can check it fits neatly - I suspect you'll actually want something like 3.1mm for a tight, but not too tight fit!
I wouldn’t know what 3D Printer to buy. I am of the impression that they are very slow, so I don’t know how you managed to print so much in the past few weeks.
Well they've certainly got an awful lot faster in recent years, but there's a subtlety to how they operate that I probably need to cover - ie they can work away non-stop and don't need any attention, so they can be running away through the day and night - I'll try and cover this in a future video!
You're amazing and OMG, Hands on Katie? Yes please. What a stunner! ;-)
😂😂 Silly billy!! 🥰
Great video, and I want to remove my clutter of parts in the house. Can you recommend a 3D printer, I have no clue.
I might do a video on this as quite a common question - I'd start with Bambu A1 if you want to start cheap or go to a Bambu P1S if you want to spend a little more....! Both are super reliable and fast!
Thanks for a great video!
One challenging area for me is cables. I have *lots* of them. They are sorted in large boxes by type (audio,videos,usb,power,etc) and while it works ok, it's not great. Esp USB has tons of various connectors so when I need to find a specific cable I still need to go over quite a bit in the USB box. Any suggestions and ideas in this area would be great for sure :)
..not just that, but the silly USB standard is poorly demarcated - does that USB cable work with data or is it just a power cable for example?? I have just the solution for both, keep an eye out for upcoming videos for this. I might even do a dedicated video on cables - it seems a very common challenge!!
@@handsonkatie Agreed. Also, while it's a good idea to have set of spare cables for various cases, it likely would be an idea to cull away some older cables that has some duplicates and never will be used again.
Agree, although it's one of the mysterious laws of physics that the moment you do that, you'll suddenly have a need for more and be one short..... 🤣
@@handsonkatie Yes! There is a reason I still have sooo many cables :D also a big box of random PSUs because they make come in handy "on day"
It looks like this address organization, but not the containers themselves. I'm desperate to find a standard large storage container and a standard shelf. Seems like "dunnage racks" are the most universal for shelving. And I haven't found something to my liking for containers.
Yes you're right - there's a great comment above that suggests creating 'molds' using 3d prints - I might try this. It's too time and money prohibitive to print larger boxes on current FDM. I'm also designing open source container systems - think cabinets, drawers and the like with automatic gridfinity grids, slot grooves and more. I could add a box system too potentially that might tackle some of your challenge - it's amazing that there's just no standard sizes in these things, then it'd be easy to find a solution!
A great video love this, I'm always looking for ways to organise my home, I came here from the home automation video you did which was great too, my only gripe for 3D printers, as my dad has one, is there so slow, it would take me months of constant printing to build these solutions, we need faster printers, or maybe you can recommend some?
Hey, thanks Leona! 😊Do you know which printer your dad has? They've certainly leapt forward in speed in the last couple of years - ie it's quite likely they're 4-5x faster out of the box, then there's also lots of tricks to speed things up further - eg layer height, larger nozzle etc. but they'll continue to get faster without a doubt...!
He has an anycubic Kobra 2, embarrassed that he got a 3D printer before I did, and I'm the one in IT;) 🤣
I didn’t get a 3-d printer…..when are you coming over?
When you least expect...... 🗜️🗜️🗜️🗜️🗜️
Mm no 3d printer yet but you've made a strong case here! As for messy rooms, my working space and in a lesser way my home office are always a mess. My own brain as well but you did not cover that in your video! :P
Hehehe! I'll keep working on you then! Excellent point though on the brain, that's actually something I'm going to cover in an upcoming video or two - it's something that's really interesting to me!!
I love this approach! My main issue is that if I don’t see things, I won’t remember I even have them! So I have lots of transparent containers that I label. They also have lids to keep dust/pests out. Is it possible to do the same with 3D printing?
Yes, great point - fdm printers can print transparent filament, but they'll be more opaque than glass-like. Few ways I'd approach this, I use window boxes like this: images.app.goo.gl/JWTqZ3M9LTSoGa6c8 and as in the video to allow this. The other option would be to just use your transparent boxes and create Gridfinity bases for them so you get the best of both worlds! Might include this in one of the room videos!
@handsonkatie2440 have you seen the Multiboard / Multigrid system?
Yes, I touched on that lightly in the video - Gridfinity has such an enormous ecosystem that multigrid is a bit like betamax Vs VHS - definitely has advantages, but loses out on sheer ecosystem size...!
My drawer of computer cables and gee gaws is a mess!!
Well you need a 3d printer definitely! 🤣
Great timing... I'm working on gridfinity for so many parts or my house, and it works great for the little things, but it gets cumbersome for the big things. Working on my garage now. Any thoughts on what to do with painting supplies? I've got 3 drawers of my Craftsman tool chests devoted to rollers, sleves, paint trays and tubes of caulk. Would love to hear you thoughts,
Oooh I've got loads of ideas - I've got horizontal and vertical stores for caulk/silicone tubes. Rollers, sleeves, paint trays are larger items, so I'd just build neogrid dividers for these myself. For small hand roller sleeves, you could design a Gridfinity solution - let me know if any urgent ones and can share files or model something specific, otherwise this will be covered in my workshop videos!!
Awesome. I'm only 5-6 drawers into my 30+ drawer solution so I'll prioritize around these for now. Excited to see what you come up with!
Hehe That's a cool but weirdly designed apartment @ 15:00.
Need some help in the bedroom - no problem, a panel of sex therapists can sit on the sofa or at the round table and observe and give live reccomendations.
😅😅 You're right, it'll never catch on!
Where are the models/specs for Neogrid? The link is just to your website home page, and I couldn't find it in a few minutes of clicking around
Hey everything's on this page: handsonkatie.com/neogrid-organise-your-big-items-with-this-free-and-open-source-system/
Will update the link in case anyone else struggles to find it!
@@handsonkatie Ah, under projects, not downloads. Thanks for pointing it out!
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I,ve got a challenge then …. RC plane hobbyist with a mix and match of small and large items and ofcourse the planes themselves …
Well it's a challenge indeed - although the challenge is more my ignorance! You able to ping any links or describe the sort of stuff you have? By description, it sounds like a perfect fit for gridfinity (small parts), NeoGrid (larger pieces like wings or engines) and possibly even a french cleat wall mount for the actual aircraft??
This is soooo good!!!
What filament are u using for multiboard? Thanks in advance!
Just ordinary PLA - more than strong enough for this. Think this was elegoo from memory!
4:12 "Why is it that there are no standards in home organisation? Engineering principles are applied to everything in the universe apart from our home organisation."
... and clothing sizes 😅
You're totally right, indeed I've read a book on that! The madness of clothing sizes is an episode in its own right! 🤣
@@handsonkatie there are books written about the lack of standards in the fashion industry!? 🤭 They shouldn't write about the problem but they should fix the problem! 🤣
I can't wait to see that episode 🤣
@@Sierra-Whisky yes indeed, it all starts with the American Civil War and too many men dying, so they needed a vague fit rather than clothes that were properly tailored.... and we've been wearing I'll fitting ever since...! 🤣🤣
Many Rolls of tape is my nemesis ! Different widths and Diameters (which of course as change as I use them!! They always end up in a drawer which is a disaster zone!! HELP!!!!!
Ooh, have a solution already for this!! Will feature in upcoming videos!
video actually starts at 10:10 XD
Came to write this. The first 10 minutes is a longwinded and slow paced talk about stuff that may or may not be tangentially relevant but I was skipping ahead 2 minutes at a time until I got to the point where some actual content appeared.
This is a great approach - I should have added a 'if you just want fed the answer, jump to 10:10' and if you want to understand the context and broader thinking, then settle in. I'll pinch that for future videos! But the words of Stolen Focus, The Anxious Generation and many more rings true, so I'd definitely lean towards longer form broader content if possible!
Why 42mm?
Well the short answer is Douglas Adams - as in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.... I did analyse this myself as I'd considered looking at alternative dimensions (eg 50mm, 25mm etc). It actually works pretty well as a number with a high number of divisible factors and it works well with both imperial and metric (as a close fit to their standard sizes at lots of common size points) - so in short I think, relatively arbitrary, but it was surprisingly effective as a size!
@@handsonkatie Nice. The "ultimate answer to everything" also came to mind when I was watching. LOL 😀... I'm looking at doing something similar but for a laser cutter instead of 3D Printing . Great vid, thanks.
@@DesignAlign ooh, I'm building some designs for both laser and CNCing for the same, so keep eye open in future as I'll share the files!
My work desk is always a dumping ground for random things that don’t have a permanent home. The other thing that builds up here is paperwork of various kinds. Any solutions for these things?
Paperwork is on the list for the home office rebuild....! So yes!!
Do you worry about 3D printers and micro plastics?
I almost entirely use PLA - which is compostable/biodegradable at high compost temps - I also have an air monitor that I use just to keep an eye on them (more for workshop than 3d printer as it turns out as it's close to zero emissions) - so, I'd certainly be sensible as you should be with any material (eg I wouldn't use 3d prints for food items), but I'm not overly concerned.
No I do not buy 3d printer as you say. Because I already have a couple = )
As for standards...
The situation in the world: "There are 100 standards for organizing things".
Here comes the inventor: "I will stop this madness! I will introduce you THE NEW WAY! We will get rid of those ineffective incompatible methods which already exists!"
... some time later ...
"There are 101 standards for organizing things"
= )
🤣🤣🤣 Pessimism is nearly always right and optimism is rarely so, yet all the steps forward come from optimists... 😉
No this is not bad, this is good. Chaos is the nature of the universe. As they say, that Einstein said, that only a fool needs in order - genius dominates the chaos. = )
As it was said (in that video) nature mixes all up, erodes, destroy, create, and mix once again. And only people strive to create structures. Just like Sisyphus did. (Or who knows, may be he is still trying to roll the stone to the mountain)
Of course, entropy is nature's way, but saying that we should stop striving to standardise is surely nihilism at its purest.... :)
I did not say that. (It all those people, who says about what Einstein said = ) ) I mean, trying to standardize something, people create chaos of different standards. I think this is magnificent! = )
For example under last video there is a couple of links, some of which does not work now, and some will stop working someday. This if life.
To be fair, nature equally mixes order and chaos which were created by people.
And nothing comes for free. But everything goes... Well it's kinda philosophic matters. But never mind it does not really matter, until we are alive we always can replace those batteries to prolong the infinity = )
btw "You know, I am kinda an organizing system creator myself"
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But it is no squared, sorry = ) It is more on the entropy side of the universe.
please adjust your mic, maybe closer or make it a bit more clear
So much plastic waste. Dust getting caught up in manufacturing all these catchments, sphongles and doo-dads. Maybe all you need is a label maker, sticky tabs and a texta. If you can't find anything, maybe your hobbies or lifestyle creep has actually consumed and gained a hold of you. Like the universe and its flow state; we must let a little bit of chaos rule our environments for creativity sake. Otherwise conformity, standardisation, homogenisation might just make you feel like you're living in a self-made, perpetually curated prison.
This is a good instinct to have and think it's certainly something to look out for...! I think the balance you describe has echoed through humanity since day zero - indeed this is very much the topic of the enlightenment and romantic eras. Of course, there's truth in both and the balance is the secret - for project building though, chaos in organisation rarely helps and I find organising the chaos allows me more creativity in my designs - it's too exhausting to be creative if you're searching for that chip, bit or screw for hours....! And your point on plastic waste is another area of interest - I prefer PLA from 3d printers (made of plants and compostable at higher temps) to the heavy oil manufacturing plastics - still I think the next innovation 'just' about to enter mainstream is the ability to grind down old projects and turn them back into filament to print again - this will be truly amazing. At the moment it's doable, just a bit error prone - give it a year or two...!
No offence but you need to get to the point.
I'm almost 4 minutes in and haven't even seen a single system.
Great to hear your thoughts, I've covered this in comment below - but 4 mins is an interesting attention span to reflect on....! I could create versions for short attention spans and longer form for more focused types - there's so much interesting research in this space!
Interesting topic. HOWEVER...State the problem in 30 to 45 seconds. Move to discussion of solutions. Left this video at 5:45. Solution not in sight. Disappointing.
Yes, it could've been a 10 or maybe even 5 minute vid. Way too much irrelevent stuff imho.
Great observations - and I think you might be right in this video, I put a couple of theoretical sections in and I know 'immediate gratification/attention spans are something people struggle with these days. It's actually something I'm toying with at the moment. I definitely want to appeal to longer-form, broader thinkers - not just the 'what', but the 'why'. I mean neurological attention spans have been hammered down in the last decade from 2mins 45 to 75secs at last count - so I think there's a lot to be said for slowing people down and getting them to think more broadly, rather than machine gunning the short term answers at them - Jonathan Haidt's new book covers the impacts of this in detail: The Anxious Generation. I might even do a video on it... it'd be a study in itself to see how long people can focus... :)
So, you have a thin skin. I've enjoyed some of your other videos, and given you likes for those. And I didn't give a thumbs down on this one, because I respect the effort you put into making videos.
You should respect our time. Edit out the superfluous. Don't take cheap shots at constructive criticism. I have found that deep thinkers typically want to get to the point, so they can think deeply about the topic, instead of sorting through the fluff.😘
Not at all, think you might be suffering from the limits of text interpretation on the web! A lot gets lost - re-read my comment, I literally said 'great observations' and 'I think you might be right' - I actually agree with you on this, but I'm conscious there's lots of other comments and messages that disagree, so I'm keen to be analytical and not take either my view or your comment as autocratic...! I think there's a neat balance and I can work it out with the right feedback, so I thought your comments were great - which is what I said! I disagree on the deep thinkers being 'to the point' - if you have any studies here, that'd be great to see - most of the psychology/neuroscience I know points the other way - in very crude terms the fast-paced thinkers are 'to the point' types, but these are great to cater for - I like the idea of a 'skip' flag that I could mention in videos - so if you don't want to understand any of the 'why' in my thinking, you can just jump to the 'answer' - this might cater nicely for both types! Welcome your thoughts though, I don't profess to be any expert in this - I'm just conscious of the research into 'short sharp content' has hardly been praiseworthy for learning, so it's something that interests me! Really do love the feedback though - I just like to debate /analyse things, so don't take it as anything other - think you're great!
@@handsonkatie Perhaps the _" 'skip' flag[s] "_ could be included by adding timestamps in the video description? 🤔
I know it takes a bit of extra work (if there's not already an automatic 🤖 A.I. tool for it ). Which is why I've posted timestamps in the comments, on a couple of your videos. But if the video creator adds them in the description, then the UA-cam player will show them as 'chapters' (not unlike in ye olden days of DVDs 📀🤭). And you could of course mention in videos (or thrown in some overlay text post-edit), for "people in a hurry / having a short attention span" they can fast forward to a certain time. 😁
Anyway, my personal opinion is that I do enjoy the storytelling format. With some funny bits (like at 15:35 🙈🤣) thrown in, every now and then.