The Ancient Battle Between Limitless and Ten Shadows | Jujutsu Kaisen
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Let's talk about the anicent sorcerer battle between a limitless six eyes user and a ten shadows user that Gojo tells Megumi about. I then also go over some other Gojo questions.
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Turned from the ancient battle between between the limitless six eyes and the ten shadow into “Gojo is pretty busted”
Another advantage the divided one had was he knew what Mahoraga does and knew the importance of one shotting it. Even if you're capable of defeating Mahoraga not knowing about it's adaptation ability ahead of time is a huge disadvantage. Given it isn't summoned very often and the clans don't really seem to share information Mahoraga's adaptation ability may not have been widely known until that incident.
Always pictured that fight to basically be
Shibuya mahoraga vs teen gojo
Which no wonder maho won
and it'd likely be a refined ten shadows domain vs no domain/weaker domain
@@randomt800kiddo2if gojo was telling megumi he could reach his potential one day, why would he use an example of someone on the level of teen gojo? That doesn’t make sense.
Cope harder
@@randomt800kiddo2 aye bruh I don't even think a refined 10S domain with all the other 9 shadows would be as powerful as just mahoraga
sukuna is an exception because he's just built different
@@betergrif9504 Just imagine if someone tamed Mahoraga and it cost them all the other shadows and we had a Totality Mahoraga and the person had a domain. That would legit be terrifying. Like that MIGHT be on Gojo and Sukuna level idk.
Imagine if it all started because one of them ate the others sandwich.
The Ten Shadow user asked for no pickles
Canon
And the Sandwich was planted by Kenjaku
@@jnascimento7023 lmao
@@jnascimento7023 😂
Haha the cheeky placements of your head are top tier. 😅😂
That honestly could have been an entire jjk expansion manga where we follow both of those sorcerer's until their final battle
Yeah, it could be a fire mini-arc a la Hidden Inventory
@@j.prt.979 hidden ancestry
@@j.prt.979 hidden ancestry arc
People Don't Understand What Makes Sukuna And Gojo so Powerful .. It Isn't Only Because of there CT .. It's because the're Geniuses ..
Saying Gojo a genius is a complete crime, since he is just like a cheater who can see anything. So yeah, my point is he is not a genius he is just completely lucky.
@@tokyoghoulre1582Gojo is a genius though. As a teen he was on just a push away from learning Reverse Cursed Energy, of which most sorcerers never learn to use in their entire lifetime. He learned how to use it of his own talent not the Six Eyes. If it was the Six Eyes, he would have immediately known how to use it at a glance. He used Reverse Cursed Regeneration, Reversal Red, and Hollow Purple on the same day he learned how to use it. Again, even if the Six Eyes were part of this, learning something like Hollow Purple, which he had never seen, is a feat that shows he is genius. He shortly after developed the passive Infinity barrier that automatically detects and defends against threats. He used a .2 second Domain Expansion in the Shibuya Arc to stop all of the Cursed Spirits without killing the surrounding civilians. Another time the Six Eyes didn't contribute to his insane talent.
Manga Spoilers beyond this point.
When fighting Sukuna, Gojo used Reverse Cursed Regeneration to bring back his Cursed Technique during the multiple Domain Expansion exchanges with Sukuna. Remember, Sukuna is a genius, and not even he knew how to do this until witnessing Gojo do it. Gojo manipulated his Domain Expansion's size while he and Sukuna were in it, being the first person in the series to do it. He also planned a massive Hollow Purple explosion that both put down Mahoraga and forced Sukuna to make a binding vow to just kill him. When Higuruma was fighting Sukuna, the narrator blatantly compared Higuruma's talent to that of Gojo's. This is important because Higuruma had only been made a sorcerer by the Culling Games, meaning he learned very rapidly for being one for a few months. Higuruma had learned Domain Expansion and Reverse Cursed Energy during that period. That level of talent is stated to be equal to Gojo's. Being able to see Cursed Energy with the Six Eyes is one thing, but to understand Cursed Energy in order to manipulate it like he does is a separate thing. Gojo's understanding is that of a genius which is the reason why the Six Eyes are so helpful. It's clear that the Six Eyes allow him to see things at the atomic level, but his control at the atomic level is due to his genius level understanding. Gojo is undoubtedly a genius.
We’ll never see it but I like to imagine purple was developed or started to be developed by the next six eyes user specifically because of the (much more recent at the time) tales of that six eyes vs ten shadows battle and more clan vs clan drama
4:19. All imma say on this is that Kenny in Geto's body slams Geto. Why is Gojo any different?
Same concept if he took over Sukuna's body. Kenny was better at using Geto's technique because he experimented with it and gained understanding of it more then Geto had. People like Sukuna and Gojo are pretty much as experienced and understand cursed technique just as well as kenjaku, so it was just be a lateral move of power.
Gojo was training himself since his awakening in Hidden Inventory where as Geto had a mental breakdown and just focused on the world and his plans with it. Gojo was heavily focusing on his CT and overall capabilities. Thats why geto was much weaker than kenjaku geto. Also kenny only had to learn/adapt to Geto's CT practically whereas kenjaku has to basically change his habit/way of perception for six eyes, adapt to Gojos CT, and gojo has hands too.
@@artypyrec4186 Kenny is the only person in JJK to have displayed a maximum, open barrier domain and CT reversal. Gojo has neither an open barrier DE or maximum; and as far as we know Sukuna has neither a maximum or CT reversal.
Sukuna is debatable, but Kenny has more experience and understanding of jujutsu than Gojo does. Therefore, it stands to reason that Kenny in Gojo's body would surpass Gojo given the same time frame.
Kenny would also have access to Gojo's memories and experiences, and we know he's had plenty of experience with Six Eyes users and likey Limitless users. So he'd have a massive head start in being able to grasp the Limitless.
I agree, since canonically he has access to the memories and with the new development of muscle memory playing a big role I don't see why he would be much weaker than Gojo, maybe at the very beginning, but he would quickly learn the ropes.
@@a1ien970 Kenny would be privy to all of Gojo's training as well as how he felt during his awakening. Kenny has had numerous encounters with the Six Eyes and while that doesn't necessarily translate to using them in practice, he does have an understanding of the theory behind them.
There's nothing to imply that Limitless is impossibly hard to use. It manipulates things on a molecular level sure, but if previous less talented users could do it, so can Kenny.
I can't say Kenny would surpass Gojo in hands tho. Gojo has shown much better feats in close quarters. Best case he would match him.
the kenjaku gojo question, i disagree. given that kenjaku also gets the memories of the people he inhabits, would he not have the years of experience already wired into his brain? like we saw him using getos memories to mess with mei mei and gojo so id personally think that hed also have the prerequisite knowledge that gojo has been working towards his whole life
Its in the zenin blood that you use mahoraga in a dire situation of any variety even with the confidence that you know youll get killed too
This is under the assumption that the Gojo clan leader was at full power when he fought mahoraga, he and the 10 shadows user where likely going at it and domain expanding, and it could have just been that the Gojo’s output was too low by the time Mahoraga was summoned to kill it with one hit.
Sus, a little bit
Red and blue are publicly known aspects of limitless going WAY back so it's likely common for a limitless user to get both, especially a limitless/six eyes.
Purple is clearly stated to be a secret technic only shared to only the limitless user, so someone had to discovered it before Gojo did. And a limitless/six eyes should have known about it and like young Gojo been working to achieve it.
It seem like just in terms of "power scaling" you'd need a really seasoned 10 shadows with a comfortable grip on the first 9 to try to nip an up and come major clan rivalry in the bud by challenging a green but promising limitless/six eyes. Or maybe the green limitless/six eyes is over confident and challenges and this is when the Gojo clan learned what Mahoraga, the tenth shadows, even was or that it could be used in that summoning ritual.
Either way, I dont see it happening without a pretty big experience gap
The six eyes at the time probably didn't have rct, and or he didn't have a DE. There probably wasn't information on mahoraga as well at the time
So my question is if the six eyes user was so much weaker, than why did gojo use it as regency to say megumi could reach his power level. It wouldn’t make that much sense.
I think domains opened and then mahoraga happens and breaks both Domains and because of burnout mahoraga wins easily because he's isnt tamed I think the summon would continue past the burnout of the shadows user since it more of a ritual than a technique and mahoraga didn't disappear when Megumi was knocked out
Honestly there's a lot of info that is kind of just assumed that we can't just skip over, like how young were the two opponents, if these were two decently old sorcerers, theres a pretty high chance that they knew RCT, thus giving them red and purple, but also, if limitless can't be used without the six eyes or can only be used at a very limited scale, then that means all of or the majority of information on the limitless technique is from six eyes users within the gojo clan (granted I'm on the side that you can use limitless with six eyes, and gege just didn't think a lot of this through), which means that probably most if not all the limitless six eyes users probably lived a long enough life to have learned RCT and Purple, as even though purple is a "secret even within the clan" due to the six eyes being the most important aspect in the world, every six eyes user would probably at some point early in their life learn about the formation of purple (gojo knew about it when he was a teen, and seemingly before he even learned red), there's also quite a high chance that if the sorcerer didn't know rct, red, or purple, he awakened during the fight with mahoraga and learned those things, but it ended up being too late, or mahoraga adapted to those as it was his first time using it and probably produce perfect ones
or smth like that idk
1:35 no exceptions 😂
Miwa slams
There are some edge cases like Maki, Higuruma and Yuta who all bring something very unique that could be an issue for no CT Gojo. Kenjaku and Yuki become fairly serious threats too. But for the most part he just stat checks the verse.
@@ManganimistYT😂
with no cursed technique, gojo is initially weaker than Miguel.
We know that gojo underwent special training. (Likely due to the absolute pure muscle he got snd started dog walking sukuna in hand to hands)
Megumi said it tho. He said I imagine this is how they clan head did it in past when he dragged Haruta into the subjugation ritual.
While not technically wrong I think it's clear That Megumi missed the point entirely. Gojo was telling Megumi that A six eyes Limitless User and a 10 Shadows User were Equal and resulted in both of their deaths thereby meaning that they were both on the same tier of power and that since Gojo had climbed so high, so could Megumi if he believed in himself.
Megumi took the exact opposite from it, He assumed it was Mahoraga doing every single bit of the work and that if That Previous user Was the strongest 10S User and he used Mahoraga then that must be the strongest he could become, not only putting limits on his technique but Megumi Himself. And yet when we see that Megumi actually Stops trying to summon Mahoraga every 5 damn minutes he actually Grows Stronger almost immediately. He gains domain Expansion after basically saying "F*CK it lets ball", he learns how to use his shadows as storage almost immediately after thinking about it, he learns how to use his shadows in battle (without the Shikigami) almost immediately after hes in a fight seperate from Maki
well, megumi is megumi, so you also have to take that into account.
@@taylor15gamescompletely agree and I actually haven’t seen an interpretation like this (even tho it seems to be the correct one). Ppl too much into power scaling I think lean toward maho jus blatantly being above the other 2 when I think that’s not the case at all. I think maho was likely the finisher from an already ongoing battle and maybe even some strategy was used but the 10S user to catch gojo off guard or something along those lines. But yeah I am against the notion that maho was above either user, at the very least the gojo user.
The gojo glazing is wild
I NEED THIS MANGA
Yo Manganimast do you think the heritary abilities look different depending on the user? You did say before its the manifestation of the innate domain and I'm curious if the barriers interior looks different
4:39 wouldn’t kenjaku gain all of their memories, and pretty much gain all their experience?
They could make a whole other show in this verse for how cool the power system is and how much depth there is to it
Mahoraga comin in for the clean up: y’all need to move I’mma show y’all how to REALLY clean up
I also imagine that the Limitless and Ten Shadows from those era were a little different from the Limitless and Ten Shadows of this era.
one possibility is that the ten shadow user was actively defend mahoraga, knowing its the best play to draw the match. After a certain time, there nothing the six eye can do if the adaptation is too advance.
Plus may be the six eye at the time didn't have info about mahoraga like gojo did, which is a huge factor
The other user for the six eyes, and limitless most likely had red, and hollow purple, since it seems like a hidden technique, but Gojo might be the only one that awakened, and with that much CE, the 3 day limitless, and six eyes without sleep might be lowered to 1 or 2 days, unless the output was the only thing affected.
When Kenjaku takes over a body, I’m pretty sure that it is stated that he keeps the host’s memories, soul and pretty much everything, that is how he knew so much about Gojo and why Gojo wasn’t able to tell right away it wasn’t Geto.
That last limetless six eyes used most likely did have rct as it said that all gojo clans techniques such as purple and red are well known in the clan and that there is a guidebook for the technique for new users so previous users must of had rct
I feel like in order to operate limitless w/o the six eyes you’d have to use it at preset/precalculated distances or magnitudes. That way it’d still be a potent technqiue just not as op or flexible as it could be. Otherwise it’d be a bit weird that the gojo family remained relevant despite satoru being sealed
I always thought of it more as a built diffrent 10 shadows user using mahoraga to pressure the limitless user, i don’t think it’s as simple as he is much weaker. If the 10 shadows user had domain amplification he could probably use mahoraga since he didn’t necessarily die first
also gotta consider that kenjaku gets the memories of those he swaps bodies with, so the lack of knowledge/experience using the six-eyes may not be that large of an issue
Maybe Mahoraga is different for each six-eyes user.
Sukuna is using only the CT of Megumi. Sure the other summons looked different but maybe Mahoraga is the fix point of Megumi’s 10-shadows and the other summons are subject to CE pool and overall tendencies and talent, the further away from Mahoraga the more so. Another 10-Shadows sorcerer might have a different Mahoraga.
I wonder if the fall of sakuna will be the amount of binding vows that he had with Megami and megami gonna take his chance with a binding vow? Geting his body bavk with his body and sakuna's cursed energy.
A I believe this is finally going to show what happens when you break a strong binding vow between two sorcerers
B this will show us the true top of the Ten shadows and the hell is going on in his Doman Expansion? Properly even a power up for megumi Defeating Mahroga? And showing what happens when megumi combined maharaga with the other Tens Shadows? Plus we haven't seen 1 of them.
I think we will get this flash back and hein era flash backs as a separate jjk manga, jjk: the golden age
I like to imagine the Ten Shadows user being told he's gotta duel a Limitless Six Eyes user and bein' like "Oh? Well so what do I do sensei?" and sensei just bein' like "Oh you're cooked brother it's not gonna happen, MAAAAAAYBE if you could tame Big Raga you'd have a chance but we all know that's impossible. Just do your best and at least make a show of it," much to the duelist's discouragement. Only for the actual match to start and our Zenin boi is getting cooked as expected and he's just like "You know what? Fuck you, you entitled prat hold this raga," knowing full well that it would absolutely kill him and the opponent but just being too salty to take the L.
Even without the context of how it went down it's easy to understand why killing yourself and the opponent in a like sanctioned duel where presumably neither party were expected to actually die would cause a generations long rivalry. I'd be pissed if I'm like teenage gojo basically and I go to basically a sorcery boxing match and when I pull up it's fuckin' Megumi talkin' about "With this sacred treasure...". Like AYO CHILL BRO, IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS!
We also have to understand that rct by itself is insanely hard to learn very few people know how to do it and simpely knowing how puts you at the upper echelon.
Gojo pre-toji had no real push to learn rct and i can imagine the same for previous six eyes users who probably god complacent with their power. Imagine pre-toji gojo vs shibuya maho and its pretty obvious why maho would wipe.
They could still have the fire power but the previous one would not know about the one shot rule, and the fact that members of his clan knew about red, blud and maybe purple they would have learned it from someone else
Gojo is the most talented six eyes user ever
But Sukuna’s built different…
Built as Gege's pookie
@@dormortop that would be Gege’s "special" friend
You mean megumi, Sukuna never stood a chance alone and he knew it.
*Mahoraga's built different
@@David-kl7to Dead ass
Imagine if red and purple were created in that fight against mahoraga and the gojo clan were like i guess they can do that and wrote it down
If he really did not have red or purple I can imagine the ten shadows user actually not needing to summon mahoraga to kill this six eyes limitless user. Also, his infinity would also not be automated since he would need rct to use it like that 24/7. Maybe it actually was a battle between a ten shadows user that was never used mahoraga and a six eyes limitless user that never got rct. This would be interesting since both never got to use 100% of what their techniques could actually do.
A thing that always goes through my head is that, against a limitless+ 6 eyes user, a ten shadows user who hasn’t domesticated majoraga yet would have an advantage, because if he dies you can just spawn him again to “try” the exorcism ritual one more time
the reason why gojo is different than other six eyes users, is toji.
it's said the the plasma vessel, tengen, and six eyes are correlated by fate, heavenly restricted toji was able to break that cycle, stopping tengen barrier, killing the plasma vessel, and awakening the six eyes user, and none of that should have happened, but heavenly restriction seem to bypass fate as well. and i think maki will also have the same moment where she bypasses a certain fate for someone.
other point i wantto talk about is the concept of siblings/twins. so far, we had sukuna, and maki. in which these cases having a brother restrict you from reaching your full potential in a way or form, but when that said brother dies/consumed you awaken, that is how sukuna had extra hands, and how maki achieved her full heavenly restriction.
i want to now point out yuji, who also have death paintings siblings, and he considerably after defeating/consuming each one of them he gets power buff. after the last chapter, the last death painting/ sibling dies this will help yuji get his final awakening, similar to how maki got her power up when mai died (regardless of soul splitting katana). if yuji was the final death painting (the theory that yuji is the complete cursed womb) then we should see a big power up for yuji in next few chapters.
Brothers maybe but not twins...I think his awakening by consuming these death paintings would be the same as if Sukuna did it, you know them being "twins"
So I’ve been confused on the adaptation of Mahoraga. Sukuna says you need to beat it on the first use of a technique but the way it’s talked about it doesn’t finish adapting until the 3rd or 4th spin. If that’s the case why can’t you kill it beforehand with increased difficulty?
The way it works is that once you hit mahoraga with your ct, it starts adapting and the more you use your ct on it the faster the adaptation becomes. To kill it you gotta use a ct that’s strong enough to one shot it basically. During shibuya sukuna just wanted to feel free for a bit before yuji takes over so he wasn’t fighting mahoraga with the intent to defeat it right away so he was fighting for fun until the moment he realized mahoraga fully adapted to his shrine ability considering his domain barely worked after all the slashes he’s done. So he used his fire ability and it’s too strong for mahoraga to adapt
while the chapters are still being released, my hope for Satoru Gojo's return remains alive🤞🏻
He will return to the airport
This ain't one piece or naruto...
Gege said he’s not coming back
whats cpl
I think that the six eyes user was having fun fighting Mahoraga but didn't realize Mahoraga was adapting to his techniques . Then when the six eyes limitless user finally realized what was going on it was too late and got murked with the ten shadows user
Ikr.
What if Yuta had the six eyes? How would this interact with his copy ability? Also in the same vein, what if Yuta had the six eyes and never lost Rika? Could he eventually surpass Gojo, or is Gojo just THAT absurd?
Interesting point, either none of the shadows died in that fight, or they have a way to introduce new shikigami to the 10 shadows. Maybe the original 10 shadows were able to tame Mahoraga and not the new shadows.
I think we haven't seen the true ultimate potential of the ten shadows then. While I think its reasonable to say that the ancient battle between Limitless and TShadows probably went the way it did because of a lack of experience/power on the Limitless user's part, I don't think that would make Gojo gas up Megumi to the levels that he did.
Even with Sukuna's finesse and the utilization of totality to summon agito and a tamed Mahoraga, I wonder what potentials could be possible with the utility of technique reversal, and the reason I'm willing to consider that Sukuna's ultilization of Tshadows isn't the max potential is because we know Sukuna doesn't utilize technique reversal with Shrine, even though Shrine's technique reversal appears to be more potent than Tshadows, Sukuna just doesn't think that way for the use of shrine, and I'm willing to wager, wouldn't think that way for the use of Tshadows. And so that makes me wonder, what could the utilization reversed Tshadows look like? We know that to some extent Tshadows traits can be applied to the user, and we know that the technique requires the hand sign to be formed to summon the targets, we also know a little bit about Megumi's domain.
(Side note if you look at it right, the vertebrae in Megumi's domain looks like it could belong to the merger.)
Whether its through a domain or through cursed technique reversal, all I'm saying is I think Sukuna didn't have the tools to use the Tshadows to its Fullest potential, and I think at its maximum potential Tshadows truly could rival Limitless.
There's a good chance that the six eyes limitless user back then had no idea about Mahoraga's ability and just tried to minimize damage when attempting to kill it. Also we would have to take their age into account but we never got that so he couldve been in peek condition, too young, or too old, but his attacks most likely weren't like Gojo's because every person in jjk interprets and uses their techniques differently like how Yuji has a scissor like cut while Sukuna just cuts
Does this mean that ten shadows and unlimited void can have a domain clash if the opponents are on the same level?
Yea depends on how strong both users are, not every 10 shadows user are same level and not every limitless user is same level. Also domains are always gonna a bit different even if you have the same ct
Gojo also said himself purple isn't exclusive to the technique, very few know about it so that could be the case
Meguna vs Gojo is basically fulfills the 6 eyes vs 10 shadows ancient battle
They gotta show the other limitless 6 eyes in a movie after the series is over.
I think a gojo without 6 eyes still a problem for meguna without mahoraga 😅
The only real change shud be he actually has a reachable cap on his cursed energy and he cant teleport or do telekinesis
Hell have a high amount of blue usage especially blue infused punches
Hell have to cut on his limitless manually for short burst
Hell should be super limited in reds since the reversal takes more ce
He should have a 1 shot a day type of purple thatll leave him completely exhausted after
Still should have rct
And his domain expansion should be time limited b4 the effects finally get to him
And he can only use it 1 or 2 times max
Make a vid on stand explanation on Jojo bizzare adventure
i'm pretty sure every 6 eyes/limitless user is the same when it comes to strength and prowess when it comes to jujustu i mean they are all working with the same gear so saying one is stronger than the rest is not true. and if you argue that some people can be better with the same kit and say that gojo is the strongest SELU then it's not by a lot. my point is is that the glazing that gojo is the strongest SELU is crazy there is no proof of that if you use the "ancient SELU died to makora" then you're lacking. first we don't know what the circumstances for that fight was we don't know how long they were fighting or if it was even a one on one (i don't think that really matters though) second the relationship between the TSU and SELU that could've played a big part in the fight they had and third this probably goes without saying but we didn't see the fucking fight so we have no idea weather this SELU was weaker or stronger or if the ten shadows user was stronger we don't know how brutal the fight was how many domain clashes there were y'all need to stop giving gojo so much credit for being as powerful as he is he is only so powerful because he was born with a stacked kit from a big clan if anything gojo is just a reincarnation.
You must have put reverse infinity on the like button cause god damn 😂
Im gonna dispute you on the ancient limitless user not knowing red & purple because we know there's a literal handbook on the gojo techniques. The reason teen gojo didnt hav those was because he was never pushed until toji so he never trained. The ancient sorcerer being born in a more vicious time wouldve trained so chances are they knew the techniques. Plus you gotta remember the deer disables techniques while healing & the bull gets stronger the more in runs. Id agree gojo is strongest of his clan but 10S is strong without mahoraga tho he definitely was the one who killed the sorcerers
He probably knew red yea but purple is debatable cuz satoru said even purple is unknown to most gojo clan members. So we don’t know if the limitless user that fought the 10s user knew purple or not
@@farsous10 yea Satoru did say that but a limitless 6 eyes sorcerer would know bout it since they’re automatically the leader of the clan due to having those 2 abilities
Cool
The limitless & six eye user Mahoraga killed must've at least been on the stronger side compared to the others, because I don't see why else Gojo would base himself on that user.
Exactly, why tel megumi he can reach his level then give an example of two users who aren’t on his level lol. I think maho was most likely weaker than the gojo user if not both, and was a last ditch effort by the 10S user to get the draw (after a long drawn out battle). I think it’s less likely that maho came in and just beat both of them.
infinity might be different back in the day too like how Sukuna and Yuji is. So Gojo's infinity with all the math stuff would be much more OP than og infinity
I believe thats wrong since that would make what Gojo said pointless(Since the whole point of that discussion was literally not killing yourself to win). I think a 10s user can actually stand a chance against a six-eyes limitless user in a domain battle. We still haven't seen the full domain of 10 shadows.
I also don't believe Gojo was that exceptional since every six-eyes, limitless user could stop Kenjaku who is a top tier sorcerer except Gojo and Sukuna and has the no barrier domain expansion. A teen Gojo without RCT is not beating an open domain.
Sure but gojo is in fact just built different when comparing him to other limitless users
@@farsous10we really don’t know that forsure tho
Wait if I recall when Kenjaku possesses a body he gets the memories and all. So why wouldn’t Kenjaku be as strong as gojo if not stronger due to his vast knowledge of Jujutsu and 1,000 years of experience?
Uhh.... Doesn't kenjaku get all the memories of his vessels???? 👀🤓
Didn’t Megumi himself say he’s pretty sure the ten shadows clan head used Mahoraga to kill the previous 6 eyes user
doesnt kenjaku, after inhabiting a new body. gain all the memories and experience the previous owner have? i dont think he'll have to "learn" like you say he might
also! i still think kenjaku wont be as effective with the limitless as gojo is. i think gojo just has the perfect personality for the best effectiveness of his technique. kenjaku just isnt like that
This is a huge assumption a 10S user cannot be that strong.... a chimera shadow garden with amplification would be fucked with a tamed mahoraga.... serious glazing to limitless six eyes when the whole series even gojo is telling megumi he can for sure go the distance gojo is literally the one who gave megumi the potential man status 😂😂 seems wild to assume the ancient zenin head was as versatile as a damn 15 year old megumi who wasn't even raised in the clan and doesnt have a domain💀💀💀💀
We need to be talking about the 10S true ceiling not megumis current displays with it, comparing a master of hua technique with a damn jujutsu god brain to a self doubting unmotivated angsty teen is soooo crazy and just enforced lobotomy kaisen. Gege really wrapped everyone's brain around his barbed hook with 2 words "the strongest" it's a damn shame.
Gojo isnt just all six eyes/limitless, he got the wits, brains and talent and a true prodigy on his own right and potential boi megumi here is definitely got the talent but is far from a prodigy starting from his mindset alone
I assume that probably applies the same way back in their predecessors but in reverse, as sukuna himself showed us what ten shadows is truly capable of
Would an infinite void make mahos adaptation over cook? Like theoretically he wouldn’t be able to adapt to an infinite amount of informations so couldn’t you render maho useless thorough infinite void? Assuming they have a brain, though I guess it would over load the CT itself?🤔 not sure
If shikigamis can get effected by domains then 100% it would work assuming mahoraga isn’t already adapted to the ct beforehand
I think kenjaku in gojo’s body would be stronger simply due to his experience fighting 6 eye users, on top of that we see he mastered geto’s abilities better than he even did with less time that Geto so I gotta go with Kenny on that one
Conclusion: *Gojo is built different*
its the same principle of CT but not the same
Day 3 of asking you to cover round 20 of the discord culling games
My crack-theory was that hollow purple was actually invented on the spot to try and counter mahoraga
I mean it's red blue attraction repulsion not trying to mix them sounds like a wasted opportunity
The question is what will happen if we give sukuna the sex eyes teen shadows not super strong like sex eyes
for real?
What abt Sukuna in Gojo body
Washes the whole gojo clan, and smokes their pack right after 🚬
It's been a month without one piece
Well remember not everyone in the clan knows about hollow purple according to gojo himself so how would he win lol
Its not confirmed, but i'm pretty sure that Kenjaku and 6 eyes can't inhabit the same body. The reasoning is, the 6 eyes are the fated foil to Kenny's plan, if he took them for himself then the story would've ended before it even started. Kenny also faced multiples 6 eyes users, even fiding and killing one as an infant. Why couldn't he just kidnap the kid and steal its body when it reached maturity? O think because the 6 eyes goes away the moment the person die, instead of beign some kind of brain circuit.
He can’t take over cuz he’s always inferior to any limitless user
Well I guess in this case, the six eyes and limitless won against the ten shadows. Mahoraga himself didnt kill Gojo, Sukuna did. Gojo did eliminate Mahoraga and came out alive in the end. Mahoraga will never be able to be summoned again (may be wrong on that).
PSA: manganamist says extremely confidently that an untamed Mahoraga killed both the limitless & Ten shadows users HOWEVER this is NOT a known fact. Just his speculation.
The ONLY thing Gojo confirms when telling Megumi is that they killed eachother, NOT that they were both killed by Mahoraga.
Megumi then speculates that he thinks most likely Mahoraga killed them both, but remember that he also does not know because Gojo did not specify, nor did he ever say Mahoraga killed them.
In fact, it can easily be argued that Gojo is HEAVILY implying that mahoraga did NOT kill them both, because the entire point of Gojos speech to Megumi is that he can surpass Gojo, with that fight being the proof. Implying that the 10 shadows user in the past was actually that powerful to match the limitless user.
You are missing one key thing. "Mahoraga has NEVER been tamed by any 10 Shadows user" that ever existed. This means that Mahoraga when summoned would have attacked both the 10s user and Limitless+six eyes user because it would have just been a ritual which just like what happened when Megumi Fushiguro summoned Mahoraga against Haruta in Shibuya, Mahoraga would immediately one tap the user summoner than attack anybody else dragged onto the ritual (Haruta) and since Sukuna Interfered (he saved Haruta because if he dies from Mahoraga the ritual would have ended as he is the one part of it together with Megumi so Megumi's suspended state of death with be fully cease to be thus ending with him dead and So Sukuna won't be able to use him as a vessel) and because Sukuna was an outsider from the ritual, when he defeated Mahoraga it did not (most likely) get tamed.
Going back to the main point, with that in mind, we must go over any other means that the 10s user could deal with infinity...oh nothing else except Mahoraga... So it is fair to assume the only thing that would have killed the six eyes+limitless user is Mahoraga and because it is not tamed it most likely killed the summoner too (most likely even before moving on to attack the six eyes+limitless user).
Another thing, with Gojo encouraging Megumi that he can be a force of nature just like Gojo is citing that battle in the past, it is important to note that Mahoraga IS the "Ultimate trump card" of the Zenin clan being that it is the strongest shikigami that the 10s can offer its user (I mean adapting to ALL and ANY phenomenon is busted like with enough time it can adapt even god-like powers being COMPLETELY IMMUNE and/or able to NULLIFY their powers) so one just cannot assume that by mastering the 10s that uplifts the user's level to Satoru Gojo's(at least top 2 in history) would not include the Divine General in the mix. After all, it is part of the technique and is the strongest shikigami from the technique.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rz YOU seem to missing something as i already knew all of this, but YOU wrongly assume that Mahoraga is the only way to bypass infinity.
1) the infinity can simply be outlasted. It’s heavily implied that gojo is the very user to figure out how to constantly use the six eyes how he does, to constantly hold up infinity how he does by using RCT on his brain, which is considered a very very big risk and pretty much unheard of.
2) cursed tools. As we have seen, there are multiple cursed tools that can bypass the infinity, including the zenin clan’s very own inverted spear of heaven.
3) domain expansion. Seeing as megumi has a domain expansion as a first year, its very likey the clan head had a domain expansion, and domain sure hits bypass infinity.
4) simple domain, domain amplification, etc. there are other more simple and universally useable ways to bypass infinity like simple domain or domain amplification.
Notice how none of these are Mahoraga.
Gege we need ur input
@@AA-tz2bm actually, my version here IS the one that matches Gege’s intent. Gege left it vague on purpose. Im not saying mahoraga did or didnt kill them. Im just correcting the record because people always wrongfully make it seem like its 100% confirmed that mahoraga killed them when in reality Gege purposefully left it vague
He was likely extremely strong, but not Gojo level
They could still have the fire power but the previous one would not know about the one shot rule, and the fact that members of his clan knew about red, blud and maybe purple they would have learned it from someone else Perhaps from a former user
A limitless user can’t learn from a previous user since they would be 100 years apart minimum. With satoru’s case the one before him was 400 years ago. They only learn through the handbook on how the ct works
@@farsous10 read what I wrote, i said members of his clan and other clan knew of the previous users techniques not gojo, so they must have learnt it from somewhere
@@farsous10 the fact that toji knew of blue and red, and gojo saying his clan kept purple a secret
@@Succeedm1 I mean ofc they did. It’s their treasured technique so they would know how it works
@@farsous10 treasured technique that only a six eyes, limitless user can do, they saw previous user do it and kept it in the clan for the next six eyes user, just as I am very sure the zenin might have secret to the ten shadows that megumi would never know
I'll tell ya what happened "Mahoraga happened"
5 minute video into one sentence - Teen Gojo dog-walks both of them and Mahoraga.
Even back in ancient eras the ten shadows users' supreme technique was suicide.
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I don't think gojo without his CT is beating yuta, maki or anyone on that high tier
Gojo without his ct can beat maki since he’s superior in hand to hand than her
@@farsous10 i don't think he'd have any answer to maki's speed or soul splitter without infinity and blue. The best non blue speed feats he has is the afterimages against sukuna
@@yuvraj..6741 i mean it’s gojo, someone like yuta and yuta can be relative to her in physical feats so whether or not gojo uses blue to enhance himself he’s gonna be relative to her at the minimum
@@farsous10 you think yuta's relative to maki in physical stats? I personally don't think he's relative speed wise to maki + gojo with just the 6 eyes will be most likely be faster than yuta given his output. He'd lack the hax to put yuta down without the limitless that's all
@@farsous10 delulu gojo fans glazing a corpse as usual 😢
Gojo is genius who can learn any new skill and be bored. Not because of his Six-Eyes or technique. Those are *added* bonuses. Other Six-Eyes were just ordinary people born with abilities.
Indeed. His high IQ
Gojo isn't just 6 eyes and limitless he also had enlightenment (purple and 24/7 limitless), Gojo before it couldn't win Mahoraga anyhow so is previous user if he didn't get enlightenment or smt. Gojo is a special case of special case.
Are you the strongest because your Saturo Gojo
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Ion get y ppl think think brain kunn can beat gojo in a domain clash if gojo and Sakura were equals in sure hits not only tht brain kunn fought six eyes users before still lost it ain’t gone be no different in a domain clash
Open domain vs closed domain
Doesn’t gojo’s ability allow him to think faster which is why he was captured by kenjaku. That’s the main reason I hate Gojo… if you’re able to think faster then you’re able to learn faster. As much of a prodigy as Sukuna is he still had to think of a game plan to kill Gojo. Same with kenjaku actually. Gojo is just a spoiled brat in my opinion.
That's true, however, Gojo is the strongest limitless & six eyes user. So, there's clearly effort if he's managed to be the best out of all of them in history.
Honestly how tf was megumi supposed to surpass gojo💀?Gojo one shot the best possible shikigami combination post mahoraga and was beating mahoraga and sukuna at the same time with low rct and one arm,that's mahoraga and shikigami reinforced by full power sukuna cursed energy,like no 10S should realistically beat any six eyes limitless user who has rct and any sort of anti domain counrermeasure.
Good point, but we also don’t know how broken a 10s domain expansion would be, or a totality of all the shikigami. Could even be maximum techniques, ct reversals etc. there’s forsure ways tho.