What Would Other Cursed Technique Reversals Be? | Jujutsu Kaisen
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- What would Ten Shadows Reversal be? Or Blood Manipulation? What about Hakari and Higuruma? Let's talk about it!
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Can you have a CTR domain?
Would Okkotsus CTR give him the ability to give cursed techniques he has stored(temporarily)?
I think the reason we don’t see things like fear of death or such is because narratively the curses that have a theme around it are specific. It’s not just fear of ghosts it’s the fear of tamamo no mae thing, it’s not the fear of volcanos it’s the fear of mt fuji, it’s not fear of forests it’s probably the fear of aokihagara, things like that
It’s my theory
how did toji kill gojo wouldn't infinity stop toji like the tool can surpass through infinity but how can toji's hand go through infinity thus killing gojo
Hakari's curse technique reversal should be "Financial responsibility!" He gives up gambling and gets a stable 9 to 5 job.
How gege plans to Revive nanami:
hakari cant have a reversal he doesnt have a cursed technique therefore he cant have a cursed technique reversal
@@morissmomoko7692he has a cursed technique he doesn't have reverse cursed technique
He does have reversed curse technique, in the manga he heals because he has so much ct after jackpot his body reflexively does rct
It's stated that he never get RCT but due to the infinite CE he has, his body reflexively does RCT, so if he did have a technique reversal he could only do it in the 4 minutes and 11 seconds after a jackpot.
Plus the luck is just him being lucky and idle gamble is his domain not his cursed technique which is those weird train doors, so if he did use technique reversal it would probably summon a train without doors or something like that.
Higuruma’s CTR could be like those boxes priests sit in to let you confess your sins, and then you get the “forgiveness” buff after
Instead of the Childhood Trauma Buff
That would be so awesome (higuruma is my bestie boo)
Or it could work as the exact opposite of his cursed technique(which takes away cts) and actually hands you another cursed technique to use. The drawback is that he can't control what you would get.
@@chronic5577 I like that idea, it could be what the “forgiveness” is after confessing
Hakari's reversed technique would just be Fuuko's unluck lmfao
Wait a minute,
If Hakari could cause Fuuko’s unluck and basically has Andy’s immortality during his Jackpot… 🎰
@@Abdega HAHAHAHAHAHH that actually fits so much wtf
Undead Unlucky Mentioned 🗣️🗣️ 🔥
Yeah Hakari is both Undead Unluck
If he had Reverse Cursed Technique
Unlimited Unluck at RCT
Unlimited Luck at CT
Again Hakari cant have a Cursed Technique Reversal because he doesnt have a Cursed Technique just a cursed trait
@@morissmomoko7692 ....that doesn't make sense
he has a domain expansion, which means he had a cursed technique
He has an unnamed/unimportant cursed technique AND a cursed trait
Idk where you got that information from
tbh I don't think every CT has a reversal because the only two techniques we've seen that DO have reversals are Limitless and Antigrav, which both manipulate what are pretty much linear concepts (infinity and gravity). They can be reversed because they have literal mathematical opposites. The reversal of Limitless doesn't change the basic concept of Limitless like "blood manipulation/water manipulation" would, it just flips the type of infinity from convergent to divergent. Same with Antigrav System changing from antigravity to gravity, its literal mathematical opposite (-gravity to +gravity).
One CT I think WOULD have a Reversal is Uraume's Ice Formation, since it decreases the ambient temperature to create ice. So logically a Reversal would increase the ambient temperature, maybe allowing Uraume to superheat the air around themselves or melt a target through touch.
Well then sukuna should also be able to create ice by reversing whatever his fire CT is
Good take, though it's still fun to think about what the reversal of certain techniques would be. Like sukuna's cleave and dismantle being reversed into invisible bludgeoning/blunt force attacks (even though we don't really know what his cursed technique is.
@@ricardoalves9605water then?
@@ricardoalves9605 i guess that means sukuna can merge with parts of people and he has a little part of uraumes soul in him.
I bet uraume will be able to do that, think the red parts of her hair are foreshadowing it
I Feel like the opposite of blood manipulation is the absence of the physical body. So maybe a Soul technique that lets you manipulate your form. A weaker Idol Transfiguration which is why we see Yuji with different arms.
think gege just forgot
@@cuckmeister3193lmao that PFP is golden, thanks for the laugh.
Maybe the reversal let’s the blood manipulate you as someone of your lineage taking control of your actions.
Like an old blood sorcerer takes control for moment or you borrow a technique from them.
Or you’re able to manipulate blood not literally but metaphorically (genetic manipulation)
@@thanos3347 Yours is cooler than what I thought of. And makes more sense as well. Mine was a basic-as-shit idea of instead of manipulating blood, you just charge the technique with cursed energy and any blood outside of the body just detonates, E=mc^2 type-deal.
5:14 The Hikari bad luck debuff sounds accurate af
wonder of u
Maybe a gambling game but when hakari wins, he takes away their cursed energy?
@@adam0609Can't escape the jojo
he wouldnt have a cursed technique reversal because he doesnt have a curse technique to reverse just like shoko he only has a cursed trait
I could see Nanami having a reversed technique of Ratio Reinforcement: strengthening the 7:3 ratio points of his body that his regular technique turn into weak points on others.
That probably doesn’t sound to impressive until you remember just how many aspects of a thing he can weaken, or in this instance, strengthen. In terms of a human body that would include: total wingspan, individual arm length, upper arm length, forearm length, hand length, each finger and each finger segment, the distance between his shoulders, and that’s just how you’d divide up his wingspan.
Add in how he could also apply his ratios to the width, height, and depth of each individual (and some sets of) body part(s), plus how he could apply this to both ends of each 7:3 ratio to get more of a 3:4:3 ratio effect, and you turn a man whose body is already incredibly strong and tough as a wall, into a man with a body like reinforced concrete.
Damn, ninja'd. Just posted something similar, but my interpretation was that he would instead be able to reinforce objects/limbs he hits at a 3:7 ratio, which paired with his ratio technique: collapse, means that he could instantly reinforce a building or structure to prevent destruction or entry.
Am a fan of your idea, though, as it gives him a much needed boost in power. Do wonder what your version would be like when paired with Collapse though.
@@2ScoopsPlz Hmm, a Reversed Collapse huh? It's hard to say what that'd be like, since Collapse is one of those moves that only gets used once or twice, never fully explained, and thus has to be extrapolated & interpreted a little bit.
Since my own interpretation of Ratio Collapse is to hit every potential weak point the normal Ratio technique could make on an object at once, a reversed version of that would probably be what I already described with him reinforcing his own whole body, or what you described with him reinforcing an external object along all of it's 3:7 points.
Thanking about it, I'd imagine that Ratio Reinforcement probably needs to affect all of the target's 3:7 points by default, if just because reinforcing a single point/small handful of points probably isn't that useful. So in that sense, you could maybe consider Ratio Reinforcement to be the Red to Ratio Collapse's Blue, instead of being such for the normal Ratio Technique.
Technically, if he masters it to a sufficient extent, he could reinforce his muscle fibers at a 7:3 ratio, effectively reinforcing his entire body
8:40 For the reversal of the "Ten Shadows", a technique that creates and summons beings into the users realm, i would go the route of deconstructing and forcefully desummoning your target.
In practice i would imagine that, after you activate your technique, either by touching your target directly or its shadow you can transport it into your pocket dimension as if you just have undone one of your Shikigamis. You would then basically face the same problems that Regie fears would happen when he falls inside Megumis domain.
Either that or give every Shikigami a reverse form. "Round Deer" switches from healer to an cursed energy amplifier and so on.
Alternatively, maybe it's what Sukuna does when he attaches the Wheel to Megumi or himself, internalizing the power of a particular shikigami, rather than summoning them externally. We know Sukuna has RCT, and it's not something Megumi has done before with any of the Shikigami, but it would be odd if it were just a property of Mahoraga specifically.
@@tzaphkielconficturus7136While i do think a internal summoning as a reversed curse technique is a possibility the thing that Sukuna has shown is very unlikely to be that. For "Max Elephant" Gojo says to himself that to use the abbility of a Shikigami without summoning it takes talent comparable to his own. That is a stage Megumi hasnt even begun to reach during the Culling Games.
For the wheel i can see two different viewpoints. It could be the same case as with "Max Elephant" and its simply an ability summoning and skill reliant. On the other hand it could be a basic function of "Mahoraga" that the tamer has access to and because Sukuna is its first conquerer its never been seen before. It wouldnt be the only thing that was revealed to be a basic function of the "Divine General" that was previously unkown.
If internal summoning is its reversal than i see it more like a transformation technique. Like gain the claws and stat boost from "Divine Dog" or the Wings from "Nue".
I'd say it has a different set of reverse shadow shikigami made from the negative space(or rather, the light) left by the shadow puppets, rather than the hands forming the shape of the summon, the hands form the background of the summon. they'd likely be more monstrous as a result.
ain't there an scp like that lol
the whole "water manipulation" is kinda a feat by the Elephant Shikinami when Sukuna used it so... lol
Activating Max Elephant with RCT ends up just giving you a wild enema! hehehehehe
what if the reversal is not the literal reversal of the technique, but instead the idea or the interpretation of the technique
- gojos blue is the simple attract so its reverse is to repel
- higorumas deadly sentencing is the idea of a perfect judge so its reverse may be mob justice, messy and potentially unfair
- yutas copy could be reversed to paste, maybe temporally infusing some person with a cursed technique
- hikaris idle death gamble is all about selfishly indulging in the gamble, so its reverse might make 2 domains for himself and his opponent, making it a race to the first jackpot
- projection sorcery is about precision and perfect execution, so its reverse might be "ai generated" where they prompt where they want to be but lose control how they get there
i think this would be a more interesting idea then the blunt and literal interpretation
That makes more sense since that only Gojo's blue can be reversed, but only a few techniques could reversed for example Uraume's technique is based on ice so the opposite would be fire.
If Angel's curse technique is Nullification, meaning she reduces every technique to 0.
Then her reversal would be Creation, which would mean she can bestow people or herself with cursed techniques. Creating 1. Kinda like Yuha Baha from Bleach.
Amplification only makes sense if she is not nullifying but reducing the effectiveness of her opponents techniques.
For example, the reversal of Utahime amplification technique would be a technique that reduces the effectiveness of a CT BUT NOT nullify it.
Gege is very particular in his power system.
I agree with everything until the line about Gege being "very particular"
If Angel's CT is straight up nullification and not "progressive reduction to zero", then Sukuna should be dead. On 2 occasions. What the hell does it mean to "tank" an attack that nullifies your very power?
Gege plays dumb a lot, especially when it comes to Sukuna, who is IMO the least interesting villain in the show.
Not really, her reverse cursed technique would be more like Utahime´s boosting aura. A power up beam that can push you beyond 200% output, perhaps even healing you in the interim. Creation of cursed techniques would have to deal with manipulation of the brain, thus making it more closely related to mahito´s whole deal. Or maybe here RCT would just turn you into an evil demon, perhaps that´s how sukuna was turned into that whole four armed 4 eyed bestial thing, instead of extiguishing his evil, it got boosted till it overtook his body and soul. Just theorizing though.
@@faisonx Dont know. Have to reread those pages. But Nullifying CT is fundamentally different than deleting someone. So it makes sense he would survive. Just cause I can mess with your powers doesnt mean I can mess with you.
Also i'm just using what this youtuber said about Angels CT to say his thinking is wrong if he is correct in what she is doing. If she nullifies, the opposite should be to create not amplify.
Bro said Yuha Baha 😭😭😭. It’s Yhwach, it’s the name of God in Christianity but pronounced Yu ha ba, and spelt YHWH in direct translation to English from Hebrew.
@@ellonganiza
I feel like for angel, giving someone curse technique would be like turning a switch on; where as for Mahito, it's more like opening the circuit and hotwiring the connection to do that.
Don't forget.. Gojo already knows about Red being a thing (family manual).. so he knows where to aim
Another reason that not many people have reversals is because it's so costly. It literally takes twice as much cursed energy as a regular technique
For real? You got a source?
@@Apotheosis0 my source is the show lol
The explanation is that you have to smash cursed energy against cursed energy to turn it into reverse cursed energy, so you need twice as much as normal.
i'm pretty sure it takes 1^2 times the energy because you gotta do -1*-1 to get 1
@@heavygaming1167Makes sense but also it would be "x ^ 2" because "1 ^ 2 • x" is just "1 • 1 • x" lol
Actually for the question at 7:13, Mappa did not make that decision. That's how Hakari looks like when he is mentioned in the manga for the first time as well (in the same scene as the anime takes place), so Mappa just used that as the basis.
There's also art by Gege that shows what Hakari and Kirara looked like while they were still at Jujutsu High, Hakari having the look that he does in the little shot and Kirara being pre-transition.
3:23 soul manipulation? I mean blood manipulation is just controlling the life force of your physical body. So the opposite would be controlling the life force of your Soul/non-physical body.
Or just take it a lil more literally, and control somebody else’s blood instead of yours
Wellll, yes and no. Blood manipulation is blood manipulation, one of its applications deals with performing it on your own blood while on the inside in order to make it pump faster and absorb more oxygen, basically the type of blood doping that athletes use. However, the reverse cursed technique wouldn´t necesarily need to affect your own body or soul, it should still affect blood. However, it may be more closely related to that corrosive quality that choso´s, yuji´s and kechizu´s blood has, instead of healing or reinforcing, it becomes caustic and damaging. Or maybe there are some cursed techniques that are neutral in its effect and therefore can´t be reversed? I mean with Gravity/antigravity Blue/red attraction/repulsion it is easy. But what would be the reverse cursed technique for Cursed Spirit manipulation? you create shikigamis out of possitive energy perhaps? these are the debates that make me love JJK. It feels like a whole new branch of philosophy.
I think this is cool because it also explains why Yuji has both the Blood and Soul technique in his fight against Sukuna. It's the same technique just a reversal.
Makes sense for the reversal of blood manipulation to controll the blood of others
Maybe it doesn't control blood but instead liberates it, and the technique can create blood that causes the blood of anyone that touches it to flow out of their body
@@pbsuitethat sounds more like a lapse technique
I always thought about if reverse curse technique with kugisaki specifically would be long range healing, because the resonance uses a doll to do body and soul damage from a distance (as we see from when she hurt mahito) then maybe she could fix the body or soul by using the doll as the “shape” or at least be able to heal/RCT the doll to then heal the target
My takes on the reversals of techniques :D
I think a cool reversal of Jacob's ladder would be similar to Yuta's copy ability where Angel could potentially store cursed techniques nullified by Jacob's ladder and pass it on with the reversal
Blood manipulation reversal is 100% some soul technique because blood is representative of your physical life force, and the "opposite" of that would be your spiritual life force (or soul). This could also explain why Yuji has both Blood Manipulation and some soul ability in his fight against Sukuna.
Since the Ten Shadows is the creation of Shikigami, the reversal would be the destruction of Shikigami. I imagine if Megumi reversed the ten shadows, he could probably cause Shikigami to detonate their entire body or parts of their body like Hazenoki could.
Also Hakari's CT doesn't seem to actually be Idle Death Gamble because outside of the domain he only ever uses the closing train doors and regular CE-powered punches. I might be wrong, but I feel like Hakari's expertise in Binding Vows hints at his domain being based on a vow rather than a technique. Because of that, I think Hakari's CT reversal would be something based on a show he absolutely hates.
Would the Curse Technique Reversal of the Construction cursed technique be deconstruction? Where you take an object and just, atomify it into cursed energy?
I just thought of the same thing lmao.
It is honestly the most busted cursed technique reversal in my opinion. Yorozu had a lot of untapped potential.
You have to keep in mind that cursed technique reversal is done by multiplying cursed energy into itself. Combine that with the fact that construction by itself is already super costly in terms of cursed energy, I doubt even someone like yorozu could go full shigaraki and just poof someone out of existence. Especially if you consider how complicated the human body is.
@@klev3en_tine But I dont really think you need to have an understanding of something to just completely deconstruct something, I would assume it does that automatically.
You got a point with the cursed energy cost , she should consider putting that cursed technique reversal in her domain at the very least.
@@klev3en_tineIt’s not super limited: Mai was super limited because her soul was bound to Maki’s HR body, so she had very low amounts of CE. If Maki died instead of her, she would probably have swaths of CE to spam Creation and Destruction.
Earlier in the series, cursed techniques were basically described as a mathematical formula so could it be possible for the cursed technique reversal of a character to not be the exact opposite of their regular cursed technique, in the same way that x+5 and (-x)+5 aren’t the exact opposite?
The thing about Gojo's infinity is that it makes sense for his force field - As its basically just Zeno's paradox. However wouldn't the closest inversion of infinity actually be zero?
I also suppose thats why people thought that hollow purple simply deletes things?
Blue: "negative" infinity (logarithmic graph - negative approaching zero)
Red: "positive" infinity (logarithmic graph - positive exponential growth)
Purple: Zero
Which is also why the concept of Gojo's purple being effectively "just" a strong energy ball a bit disappointing? Infinity and Zero are abstractions that logically obliterate finite concepts.
I think Purple DOES delete everything it touches. It's just that sukuna fought purple by attacking the fact it was a cursed technique, using domain amplification, instead of actually just surviving the deletion headon
@astronxmically2817 except if you actually pay attention to the scenes where Hollow Purple is used the resulting "wounds" or fissures created are always at the least slightly jagged ( with the exception of the Toji scene in the anime ) and is littered with debris especially in Demon Infested Shinjuku with 200% Hollow Purple and the "Remote" Purple both leaving behind jagged rends and and practically a sea of debris it doesn't delete anything....
yea for such heavily conceptual abilities gege really botched the execution. like perfect sphere and gojos entire set of colours can just be boiled down to ball that explodes you if it touches you
@@theonewayroad3867imo it does both. Everything it touches get's deleted, and everything near it gets destroyed but not deleted
@@astronxmically2817 source ?
I think we’ve already seen the reversal of blood manipulation; it was just not identified as such.
So the way blood manipulation works is that the user *removes* blood from their body in order to manipulate it and use it as they wish (be it offensively or defensively). Therefore, I’d argue that the reversal of such a technique would be the *production* of their blood.
Now; I know what you’re thinking that this can’t be it because Choso was shown to be able to produce blood before he learned RCT; but I’d argue that blood manipulation is unique because, if true, that means that the reversal technique is actually *easier* to implement than general RCT (it’s way easier to produce just blood than it is to regenerate a limb, for example).
see I'd agree but the issue with that narratively is that raw RCT can already regenerate your blood, so it'd be redundant. It would just give blood manip users more ways to get extra blood, except one method costs more energy needlessly. I don't think Gege would do that.
I think of Angel's cursed technique as extinguishing Fire, so the reversal would be making that fire burn with more life. So in my way of seeing it it would be like Utahime's CT.
I absolutely love CT reversals, i really hope Gege shows off some more of them before ending the series.
reversal of cursed spirit manipulation, instead of you giving your curses your cursed energy, you take their cursed energy. And an extra to this is, we know some people has special CE like kashimo and Hakari, so if we say Kenjaku absorbs a "Kashimo" curse, then he takes the electricity CE and then gives that to another curse, like imagine having mahito with the electricity CE
But doesn't Uzumaki already take the curses energy and extract their technique?
@@thekamotodragon It's more condensing Curse into an explosion. Like I'm more talking about how Rika fills Yutas tank
A good CTR for Nanami's 7:3 ratio technique would be to that he forcefully creates strong points at a 7:3 ratio on himself where an opponent's hit would be less effective, or forcefully weakening their hit at that point.
For the ten shadows since it uses shadows as a medium to summon shikigami the reverse would be a light binding technique which uses light to bind curses to the ten shadows technique
yukis own would definitely be romoving mass and i stongly think she probably be able to fly by removing her mass as a direct opposite to the black hole she created
Nanami's cursed technique reversal would probably reinforce the area of an object hit at a 3:7 ratio, making it extremely durable. His technique is all about enforcing a weakness, after all.
Pair that with his ratio technique: collapse, and he can instantly reinforce a building or structure to prevent entry or damage.
Oh hey that was my request!!
My idea for an opposite blood manipulation was along the lines of destabilizing blood. Basically turning it into a powerful explosive. Potentially since it’s a lot simpler, it could also work on others if you touch them. Turning a sniper type ability into an explosive brawler. Potentially you could combine em to make explosive blood shots
What I feel iffy about these theories is that, they say the Curse Technique reversal to have a different Domain expansion.
Like Hakari's Gamble technique or Higuruma's Sentencing technique is not CT, it's a domain expansion. Higuruma's normal CT (equivalent to Gojo having Blue and Infinity) is just summoning items that are used in the court case, like hammer. Gojo's Infinite Void didn't have any reversal so why do we expect Hakari to have a Domain that gives the opponent bad luck or Higuruma to have a domain that provides life sentence?
Could you please elaborate on that?
And i am surprised that noone mentioned what the reversal of Cleve and Dismantle would be.
Yeah with those two its a bit tougher to conceptualize because their domains 'came with' their techniques. I wouldn't say its comparable to Unlimited Void, but still you do have a point. This was just a fun conceptual exercise though so wasn't getting into the weeds of the mechanics, more so just the ideas behind reversing cool techniques.
And yeah with Sukuna who knows, his technique is still such a mystery its hard to say what his might be. Hopefully we get to find out 👀
Thank you so much for the support!
Honestly, I'm surprised that Sukuna hasn't yet pulled off a Curse Technique Reversal, given that Gege has written him as the only character with any common sense.
Given that the technique is shown to tear things apart, its reversal should be asking the lines of mending/joining things
@@faisonx Unless that the flame arrow is his reversal and that's why it burn Jogo
cop out answer but does using positive energy instead of cursed energy necessarily have to reverse the technique itself? putting diesel into a petrol car doesn't make it drive backwards, techniques like the hair canon of Cursed Energy Discharge or Cursed Spirit Manipulation could simply just not work with Possive energy. Or maybe it acts like a better fuel source and requires less overall energy for the same effect or like how coal burns hotter than wood it could allow for a higher output than what one could achieve with cursed energy.
i think it could be possible that only a few techniques could reverse fully, and the fact that the only 2 times we have seen it has been with powers that are just basically pushing and pulling forces and not ideas more complex is odd
I imagine that, more often than not, a cursed technique reversal isn't useful or just doesn't exist, and that's why so few characters bother. Infinity's Red is useful, but... would a reversed Cleave or Dismantle be? A Ten Shadows? Hell, the most clear example I'd say is Boogie Woogie.
Normally, it swaps the user with an object. Reversing it, it... swaps an object with the user. Functionally, exactly the same, though you could probably argue for stuff like it operating from the other object letting it punch through a domain from the outside to escape it or somesuch. Is something like that really worth the (very big) effort to learn?
@@manoflead643 imo reversal of Cleave or Dismantle will be Weld
@@Riusnailly Yo. Y e a h.
Gojo wasn’t the only one we’ve seen doing CTR kenjaku did it as well with anti-gravity system to survive yukis black hole
He said anime friendly
Kenjaku also shows a cursed technique reversal in the form of anti-gravity system. So we have two examples, Gojo and Kenjaku.
you just opened a whole new topic ... reverse domains
You mean internal domains?
@@tzaphkielconficturus7136no? That's a whole different thing
Bro Limited void about to go crazy by literally lobotomizing everyone in it except rather than overflowing with information they just lose all their memories
@@tzaphkielconficturus7136 nono I meant imbuing the reversal of one's cursed technique into the barrier of the domain expansion, resulting in a domain with the opposite effect of the normal domain expansion.
Idek how, but boogie woogie reversal would be cool, considering who todo is, i know itd be wacky and stupid funny when used, but what it could be would be fun to think about
I feel like a good reversal for blood manipulation that fits would be either bone manipulation or tissue manipulation or maybe even both. They make sense to me since not only do they fit the theme of weaponiz8ng your own body, but muscles and bones also have blood running through them, so it could be seen as them further expanding how far they can stretch the ability. Bones could be used for stronger and harder attacks while muscle could be used for more defensive means. Though bone can fit both roles so I'd lean on that. Kamos with blood manip also use their bm for rct, and having bone or muscle be a reverse upgrade makes sensevin this aspect too
todo still has his ct he just cant use it as well , mahito didnt damage or erase it with todos soul cuz mahito himself expected todos ct to work there , todo just run out of CE or just declared he cant use it as well as he did before. todos clapping to use the CT is dead but his and others together isnt
CTR of blood manipulation could be simply the lack there of manipulation , lack of controll , it could make users blood explode and move rapidly and chaotically , making for good weapon when throwing or shooting blood at someone then applying CTR and making it randomly move at super high speeds , kinda like piercing blood combined with a less detailed rasenshuriken effect
what i think the CTR's of some techniques would be:
kashimos ct : izolation(immune to lightning , perhaps can stretch his limbs sorta like luffy tho would perhaps disable some of his moves)
hanami: either withered plants or mushrooms(given their anti-plant-like existance)
jogo: either water or ice , or both , the reverse of that is uraume with perhaps fire and magma/lava
dagon: instead of water and fish it'd be dryness and perhaps isopod bugs that live on the ground? i imagine it could function a bit like shigarakis decay or how crocodile from one piece can make anything dry upon touch , even humans.
mechamaru: self enhancement , simple instead of creating/manipulating puppets that arent his body he would enhance his body to be stronger himself.
mahito: maybe manipulating the body alone ? idk hard to think of anythin
10 shadows: light , perhaps even light variants of shikigamis
nobara:maybe imploding nails and some self-damage nullification? no idea
construction: dissasembly(basically jerry rig from ben 10) or decay(again)
I did not expect him to actually say water manipulation because thats what I thought it would go into if it were rct
For the Angel's CTR, to keep it in line with the theme of her cursed technique, I'd say it "resets" a CT. For Todo it would allow the handclap to be redefined so that Boogie Woogie could be used again (so not healing or removing the effects of Idle Transfiguration but instead rewriting the original rules for the ability). For others that are not already significantly handicapped (specifically by Mahito's soul-warping power), it may remove Binding Vows and the like. In the short run, a major loss of power for an enemy during a fight. In the long run (for an ally) a way to remedy past mistakes and reclaim lost potential now that they have more cursed energy and experience.
If I had to guess on a reversal of angel's nullification I'd say it could be activation. Her ability turns off cursed techiques active on the target. So I would say if she reversed it it would force the activation of a technique like all for one in my hero when they force the teleport gate dude to open his ability up.
I always like the idea of the reversal of the construction technique being deconstructing matter into surplus cursed energy that you can use for more construction. This also has the funny side effect of turning a construction sorcerer into what is essentially an alchemist from full metal alchemist.
Bro, a CTR equivalent of Mahoraga would probably go crazy
1:05 idk why it sounds so funny that you said red in japanese and in english at the same time.
aka means red
"a.k.a his red"
My personal opinion on why Hakari looked different early in the manga/anime is just simply because that’s what he looked like back then, like before he was suspended
Hey man, i think you probably won't answer this question but i wonder, how do you even find out you have a curse technique? I mean how did for example, Todo found out what his curse technique was? Did he only started claping and all os sudden he switched places? Love your videos bye
Reversal of Mai's construction to create anti-matter would be hilarious
Heyy, My comment got answered! Whoever saw my comment asking about the CTR of blood manipulation, thanks for being a homie and donating the question. I think it just makes no sense to give the main character this CT and then give him RCT, but then not a reversal, esp when we've seen his teacher have one. I hope Gege didn't forget they exist lol, because nobody sane in Yuji's shoes is not learning CTR asap if they could.
I feel like we've already seen reversals of both ten shadows and blood manipulation. For the 10 shadows i believe that summoning the beast onto yourself is its opposite, since the shikigami is coming from what cast the shadow as opposed to the shadow itself.
For blood manipulation i think its as simple as making the healing from rct so much simpler and less draining. i think this fits since blood manipulation (for non cursed spirits) actively drains your blood so its opposite should give it back I think.
Also, even though it's not talked about i believe that dismantle is the reversal of cleave. we know that cleave is the default slash, and I believe that the reversal of a cut that requires touch is a cut that doesn't. My basis for this is the flame arrow. the requirement it has that it requires both cleave and dismantle to be used first reminds me too much of the way that blue and red must used to create purple. synergy between the two strongest attacks.
Hakari looked like that in the manga too. The silouette was shown around the time when Hakari just recently left or got pushed out by the JJK higher ups(and just leaving on his own). You could say he looked more like that when he was still a student and he just styled his hair later. The pic was a shadowy side profile in the manga
Choso’s reverse cursed technique could be a more chaotic one such as making blood around him randomly choose in directions, being extremely powerful but totally erratic, the opposite of control
Man, after hearing Hakari, that reminds me that he's been away from the Manga for a few chapters now, leaving his fight on a cliffhanger. Really wondering what's going on there feels like forever ago
Blood Manipulation is about exerting your will over your blood. The reverse of that? Giving it a will of its own. The reverse of Blood Manipulation is Blood Animation. Like how Ten Shadows allows you to summon shikigami from shadows, Blood Animation lets you give shikigami form through a mass of blood.
Conversely, the reverse of the Ten Shadows technique would be Shadow Manipulation.
Water manipulation being the technique reversal for blood manipulation is a pretty good idea, perhaps only being able to manipulate water from external sources since normal blood manipulation only allows the user to manipulate their own blood.
Also since blood manipulation is very much used to symbolize familial bonds in JJK, it would fit the motif of blood being thicker than water.
With how it's stated that one can change the "targeting" of their technique (skirting around spoiling current manga information)
I'd believe that reversal of manipulating "One's own" features would be "Someone else's own features"
or if we assume conceptually the reversal of manipulating a substance would be the substance manipulating the wielder I'd imagine like in choso's case could give his "Blood" a command to automatically carry out orders by manipulating his blood to manipulate his own body like a puppet killua-godspeed-style
Or given the logic of the inverse of manipulation is relinquishing control would be allowing his blood to make its own actions and choices given criteria like proximity to cursed energy, sensing movement or killing intent
Or say the reversal of his ability to turn cursed energy into blood being turning blood into cursed energy (like his opponent's?) it could go any way
take a shot every time my boy says technique
If Ten Shadows is summoning creatures from shadows
Wouldn't Reversal be creating weapons from light
For me, blood manipulation reversal would've been like blood bending in avatar (ATLA). Using the inside your enemies' bodies to inflicted damage or them like puppet.
I had another idea about this, and it would've been "solidified blood" to make shikigami a bit like the 10 shadows but with blood.😅
Bc in jjk being born strong is a common idea for characters, stuff like how blood lineage and inheriting strength are so unjust in this world to everybody else, i think that not every technique can have a reversal, you are either born as one of the few with RCT and a reversable CT or you don't
Simple but strong techniques are big in Jjk probably also bc it gives more liberties to what you can do with them, like CTR
Complex techniques like Hakari's or Higuruma's probably don't have reversals bc they are built around Domains with weird rules
However, as fun and harmless theories i love the idea of coming uo with what Reversal for Weird techniques could be! It's a fun thought exercise KFJSNXBD
Imagine the reversal of Construction being Destruction, aka, transforming Matter into Cursed Energy to replish that lost by the user since that technique consumes so much
Urarume's could change from Buffing people to Debuffing them
What if Mei mei's control over Crows could change to temporarilly giving them conciusness? Perhaps like if they were councious shikigami
Maybe the reversal of Tengen's inmortality could be Eternal youth, bc inmortality prevents natural death but no ageing, the reverse could be Never Aging but not being invulnerable to natural death (looking young but dying at an old persok's age)
The disaster curses we got now are born from fears that have accompanied us pretty much all of our existence. So they’ve had time to cook and become insanely strong. War is old too but you could argue that’s part of Mahito. Fear and hatred of each other is what brings about war.
I did a Custom CT using this in mind called embrace of the tao. It's on the discord
I think it would be cool if the reversal of blood manipulation was bone manipulation. Then the user would have similar abilities to Kimomaro from Naruto.
3:30 For another conceptual idea regarding blood manipulation, what about Immune manipulation? Since the control of blood manipulation seems to be blood revolving around Erythrocytes, what if the reversal allows control of other people's Leukocytes? Imagine being able to touch someone and give them an autoimmune attack.
Yuji using the reversal of cleave to fuse sukunas fingers or arms together would be fun to see
Insane reversal (haven't watched the vid yet dunno if they mention it) would be Mai's Creation (and another character i forget who) technique reversal: Erasure: Vanishes an object with no CE from existence, gives the user a huge amount of CE (bc we know matter to CE conversion is insane)
I think the 10 shadows ct reversal would be giving Megumi the traits of the 10 shadows, so he could use Mahoraga's wheel and adapt to things or use nue's lighting and wings
the reversed ten shadows would just be a flashbang lmao
Gojo really needs to gain that Reversal Backshots technique
There are some CTs that would definitly have CTR like ryu CE discharge its ctr would be CE charge, like he can absorb others cursed energy like with the rinnegan. And there is also yorozu construction, its ctr would have to be distruction like maybe she can turn innanimate object into CE to restore her CE cause she uses CE to create things so something like that.
the opposite of ten shadows could be quite lethal, thinking of how black holes work and their inverse (that being white holes), imagine being able to absorb stuff into shadows and then expell them at fast speeds out of light, like some form of teleportation. would be disorienting like todo's technique
I like to imagine the Higaruma’s curse technique reversal turns judge man into criminal man, who puts on a balaclava and breaks people’s knees with a baseball bat.
I haven't watched this show but from what I've gathered, I have also thought about a nuke curse
Love how people running wild with this like it's Chainsaw Man's devils 🤣
I think another reason why it’s so rare is that RCT is REALLY taxing CE supplies. The people who spam it are Yuta who has boundless CE, Yuji who has no other CE consumption, JP Hakari uses it infinitely, the honored ones, and that’s about it. Kenny only uses a couple times, Yuki uses it once, and nobody else uses it in a meaningful way or even have it.
If RCT is that taxing for what is basically CE reinforcement, then using it to power your CT has to be draining. I would imagine non special grade level fighter probably use Reversals ONCE in a fight in any sense of efficiency
I think about opposite ct to blood manipulation and as for me it may be destraction manipulation,bc Choso use not only his own blood in battles,but also produse more number of blood cells by his ct so as not to die from hemorrhagic shock.We can see it in fight with Naoi Zenin.
That's why opposite to it will be apoptosis-programming cells on self destraction.
For the hakari rct image the person caught in it has to choose something to gamble with like a ct, ce reserves, anything in their possession like a gambler down on luck
Kinda like knuckle from hunterxhunter
The reversal of blood manipulation letting you manipulate others blood would be kind of cool though. A simple nosebleed would open up a pathway to blood shooting out of their eyes and ears and stuff
I wonder if sorcerers who have domain expansions with access to RCT could reverse the technique imbued in their domains making some sort of “domain reversal” or something.
Knight tysm as always man! I talk about your question at the end of this video here: ua-cam.com/video/_YaQv8EdU-I/v-deo.html
You aren't an anime only right? Cus this video goes into spoilers so if you are I can give you a quick text response here as well
Personally my thought for CTR of Blood Manipulation could be something as simple as blood dispersal; the user could take any blood attack they create and cause it to explode on command, which can have differing advantages per user. Choso can weigh down his foes with his blood, Yuji can make his explode (?) etc.
I think Kenjaku’s CTR with Anti Gravity System shows that the reversal can be more utility focused as well, so maybe some CTs just have extra versatility if the user learns to use CTR.
I do think blood manipulation would involve manipulating other peoples' blood, likely with a touch. But I think it could go a lot farther than that. Blood manipulation at its core seems to just be the manipulation of blood with a pretty wide range and high ceiling. Since the manipulation of blood first requires the EXISTENCE of it, and blood manipulation is limited by its absence, maybe the CT reversal of blood manipulation would include the ability to directly spawn blood from cursed energy, separate from your own supply? You'd be able to essentially spawn a massive amount of it, but its true power would be in its ability to be spawned in a large area around you and in various sizes/quantities without direct contact. Maybe you can use it to 'corrupt' peoples' blood, basically injecting them with your own blood and cursed energy, which would allow you to manipulate or damage them internally.
Sukuna can also pump blood throughout his body without having a heart by using Cursed Energy. So you can chalk up the survival to to something Sukuna prepared for specifically after he realized Megumi was a 10 shadows user he could potentially take over when he attempted to summon Mahoraga
reverse curse speech would probably just make it so you unable to do whatever they said, like if the user said “move” they’d stop moving, but you can also just say “stop” so there’s not much use. then again a curse speech user that can heal their throat is pretty overpowered already but i think it would also be cool if reverse curse speech could affect objects and infuse curse energy into them, like being able to command random objects or the environment to do something, imagine fighting a dude who keeps saying “stop” to freeze you then just tells the ground to eat you whole and crush you or uses curse speech to force your clothing to bind you or break your bones.
My take on ctr of cursed speech is cursed hear
It works like this when inumaki tells "cursed hear" on someone , the target would adquire a tatoo (similar to the one inumaki has on his mounth) on his ears. Then everything that the target hears from inumaki would be reversed this would be perfect for allies for example.
-inumaki and maki are fighting against a curse , then inumaki uses his ctr on maki
-he says "hit weaker" this would make the curse hit weaker but make maki hit stronger.
So in the beginning of the video you establish that every cursed technique has a reversal and later you go into detail about how that could manifest with some trickier techniques like then ten shadows.
Case and point Domain Reversal
For Higuruma’s reversal, I’d argue that whatever it is would still have to be based on the Justice system; therefore I’d think that it would take its basis on whatever system Japan has for parole; for example, Judgeman (or a similar entity) would state a crime that someone has already committed and proven to be guilty, and the other person has to argue why they’re eligible for parole. Potential buffs would be awarded based on the arguments presented (or some other factor).
So on Hikari's CT reversal, is it possible that his automatic RCT increases his odds of back to back jackpots? It might fit the definition of "Giving someone bad luck", and falls in line with how we understand Hikari's CT to revolve around his Domain expansion?
Disaster curses can always reappear but it is implied that they come back with a new sens of self and that it maybe rarer for one to materialize. I,e, if Mahito type curse comes back they would have Idle Transfig CT but wont be the exact same as Mahito. So from a writing standpoint you could just say a lot of the manifested Disaster curses were exorcised by people like Gojo in older eras of Jujutsu before they learned to get stronger like the group in JJK. Remember that the Disaster curse were working in the shadows with the aid of Kenjaku and were thus able to live long enough to develop into even stronger curses
Gojo and Jenjaku are the known sorcerers to use a reverse of a technique
To add to the notion about Yuji coming back to life recently in the manga Sukuna was seen to use curse energy to keep his heart pumping. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sukuna just regenerated Yuji’s heart and made it beat with curse energy
I think that for a technique to have a reversal, the lapse must be performed by making use of the negative property of CE, Gojo literally states that he uses the Limitless and amplifies with negative energy to remove space, so it's obvious that positive energy would do the opposite (i.e. remove space), but not all techniques are like this and may not be able to be reversed
Maybe the reason that we dont see that mana reversal is because the sorceres will not be able to understand what the reversal will be. The only two reversal we have seen are concepts that can be reversed. So it is easier for them to understand how to use the reversal.
now that I´ve seen the video. I think Higuruma´s technique needs a living being as a target, just how most laws only applies to the living. However there are laws that apply to the legacy of the living, their testaments, states, intellectual property, etc. So maybe his RCT would allow him to target cursed tools?
Pls do geto’s reversal 😩 I’m rlly curious what a reversal of curse manipulation would be
I'd consider Sukuna to be the stand-in for the disaster curse of nuclear weapons. Sukuna is essentially a god of war. His domain expansion is the embodiment of indescriment annihilation of flesh and objects. His demolition of shibuya gave me nuclear disaster vibes, especially in the anime that highlighted the human casualties and destruction. Sukuna vs Mahoraga may as well have been a kaiju battle.
My theory is that Sukuna's fire arrow is an extension of Dismantle and Cleave, in which Sukuna splits matter at the atomic level to create a nuclear warhead jujutsu technique.
I also like to imagine that Sukuna might have been around during World War II and had learned much from the weaponry and technological advancement, ascending his techniques even further.
5:27 gojo take care of it would be the best inverse answer
hakari using the reversal technique financial stability
I feel as CT Rerversal isnt inherintly a new ability itself but rather an expansion on the current ability such as Reversal Red, Red in itself different from blue but has a similar structure yet different ability/uses. So in Blood manipulations case it would instead of giving him an entirely new ability it would expand on the concept of Blood Manipulation and allow him to for example possibly be able to manipulate blood that is not his own, like something such as Blood Bending. CT Reversal id like to believe dosent exactly "Reverse" your CT but rather expands on your CT to give it properties it usually wouldnt have which could explain why it it so difficult to master as you would have to master your technique and/or have some type of awakening which Gojo had both. Sorry for the Yap session.
The most mysterious one to guess is the possible Cursed Technique Reversal of Ryomen Sukuna's "Dismantle" and "Cleave".
Kenjaku also uses curse technique reversal. “His” ability is antigravity and he reverses it to be gravity.
So my thought on Sukuna/Yuji's Shrine
If Cleave/Dismantle is using negative energy to cut, would the CT Reversal pretty much be a version of The Sword of Extermination or Executioner's Blade? To take it a step further, I'm also thinking that Imaginary CT would then be the World Cutting Slash. I don't think Sukuna ever learned CT Reversal but he did immediately recognize Mahoraga's Sword of Extermination and he was also highly interested in Higuruma's Executioner's Blade. I think he was trying to learn but ended up skipping over CT Reversal straight to learning WCS through Mahoraga's adaptation. It also makes sense that both Mahoraga and Sukuna could use the WCS even though Cleave/Dismatle is the opposite/negative of the Sword of Extermination. Anyways just fun to think that now all this could possibly be in Yuji's CT kit at some point lol.