Why are there over 30 different Arabic Qur’ans? - Quranic Corrections Ep. 3

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  • When Muslims hear anything about Qur’anic variants, they assume these
    variants are what is commonly known as ‘Ahruf’, or ‘Qira’at’, which are
    nothing more than dialectic differences that have to do with the way
    someone reads the text orally. According to tradition Muhammad permitted
    7 different Qira’at, or readings while he was alive. These 7 ‘readings’
    were then canonized 300 years later by a scholar named Abu Bakr Ibn
    Mujahid, who died in the 10th century.
    The confusion stems from a one-line reference written by Al Bukhari in
    870 AD for the need to write the 652 Uthmanic Qur’an in the ‘Quraishi’
    dialect; in other words, to write this Uthmanic text so that those who
    speak the Quraishi dialect could read it correctly.
    The problem is that no one could have read such a text that early (652
    AD), because in order to read dialectical differences in Arabic, one
    needs to have diacritical marks (dots above and below the line), and
    vowels (which include the Dhamah = the oo sound, the Fatah = the ah
    sound, and the Kasrah = the ii sound); but diacritical marks and vowels
    had not yet been invented in Arabic. They would not be introduced for
    another century or more. So, how could Zaid ibn Thabit have written
    Uthman’s Qur’an in the dialect of the Quraish that early?
    All he could use was the consonantal script (known as Rasm), made up of
    17 - 28 consonantal letters (known as Harf) available to him. Those who
    then attempted to read those words would add their own vowels (depending
    on which dialect they were reading it aloud in) and try to guess which
    of the 17 - 28 letters they were reading, by using the context.
    The consonantal letters he used, however, would remain constant,
    regardless of whom was reading the text, and regardless of which dialect
    they were reading it in.
    To explain this, Al Fadi and Jay looked at a number of the earliest
    Sunni and Shi’ite manuscripts to prove that none of these earliest
    manuscripts (the Samarkand, Sana’a, Topkapi, and Ali manuscripts) have
    any diacritical marks (dots). Nor do they have any vowels. They are all
    written only using the Rasm, or the basic consonantal script.
    They then show how one can create up to five letters using just one
    consonantal letter by simply adding dots above and below that letter,
    and if one had three of those letters in a row, one could create up to
    30 different words, again by adding the dots. This proves just how
    inexact the Arabic script was back in the mid-7th century, and why
    diacritical marks needed to be created and then used in the manuscripts
    which followed.
    But in these earliest manuscripts which were created during the 8th
    century and later, there simply was no means of writing any dialectical
    differences. Therefore, the argument of different Ahruf or different
    Qira’at (i.e. different readings or different dialects) make no sense
    this early, since there were no dottings, nor any vowels to see those
    differences within a consonantal scripted text.
    Jay and Al Fadi then introduced 26 different Qur’ans (out of a total of
    31) which Hatun Tash was able to buy in market places situated in
    Jordan, Morocco, and Yemen, each of which was created by a student
    living in the cities of Mecca, Medina, Damascus, Kufa and Basra between
    the 8th - 10th centuries. It is from these 26 to possibly 37 different
    students that we get the differing Qira’at schools which are popular
    today. When observing just the 26 Qur’ans they displayed, Hatun and her
    team in London have already found almost 60,000 differences between them
    (Note: Since this recording, the number has increased to 93,000
    differences).
    The Qur’an we are using today around the world was created by one
    student living in the city of Kufa who died in 796 AD, which is 144
    years after Muhammad.
    It is surrounding these differing Qira’at Qur’ans that Muslims today
    think the discussion concerning the changed Qur’ans lies. They couldn’t
    be further from the truth. These diacritical differences, coupled with
    the vowellization, were all created centuries later.
    Thus, it is not these later Qira’at differences which we are talking
    about at all, but the much earlier and more damaging consonantal
    scripted differences. That is the focus of our discussion here.
    Therefore, when Uthman (if that story is even true) decided to burn the
    Qur’anic manuscripts which disagreed with his canonized Qur’an in 652
    AD, he wasn’t burning them because of different Qira’at or Ahruf
    readings as Muslims today suggest. He was burning them because their
    Rasms (their consonantal) letters were different from that of his own.
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  • @farlyyn
    @farlyyn Рік тому +11

    Thank you Jesus for all knowledge from here you was opened my eyes

  • @abu5197
    @abu5197 4 роки тому +11

    To understand the origins of the Quran, we must consider the Arab society of the time. The Arabs communicated vocally and as most were illiterate, the Quran was not compiled into a collection during the life of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.). Instead, the verses were documented on parchment, leather, bone and other materials. The Quran was revealed to the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) in seven different styles and each of these styles were recited by the companions until the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) had approved of their recitation. Each of the styles, albeit their differences, had the same meaning.
    After the death of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.), it was decided by Abubakar, the father-in-law of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.), that the Quran be compiled into a collection after a great number of Muslims, who had memorised the entire Quran, had been killed in the battle Yammama. In order to verify its authenticity, the verses had to be corroborated by 12 of those who had memorised the entire Quran in the presence of 2 witnesses, before being added to the collection.
    At this time, the Quran did not have any vowels or markings because the people who possessed these Qurans were native Arabs who already knew the verses of the Quran and could recite easily without difficulty. However, when Islam spread into other regions, there was confusion as people did not understand how to read the Quran and the fact that there were seven different styles only created more confusion. To resolve this issue, Uthman decided that only one copy should be distributed and favoured the script of the Quraysh dialect as it was the tribe that the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) was originally from. The other copies were destroyed and the Mushaf was distributed as the standard script. This lead to the emergence of the standard script of the Quran known as the 'Mushaf'. To further ensure that the integrity of the Quran was preserved, Uthman established schools to ensure the correct recitation and writing of the Quran. This eliminated the possibility of incorrect recitation or copies of the Quran and those that had graduated from these schools were able to teach the Quran to others.
    It was only later, during the caliphate of Ali, where the diacritical marks where introduced to ensure that those who were unable to attend the recitation schools, established by Uthman, would be able to recite the Quran on their own.
    Allah promises the preservation of the Quran in Surat Al-Hijr: "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Quran and indeed, We will be it's guardian." (15:9). The Quran has been preserved and the meaning of the verses of the Quran have stood against the challenge of time. Even if you choose to ignore all the above points and insist that the minor differences are significant, ask yourself if any other text can be produced to the accuracy of the modern day Quran and the manuscripts of old.
    The reason most people keep the Mushaf as the standard script of the Quran and the reason that so many educated atheists convert to Islam is due to the mathematical miracle of the Mushaf which has confirmed to Muslims that it is the word of Allah.
    To conclude, Jeffrey Lang, a mathematician and revert to Islam, concluded this argument beautifully saying that
    “so far the manuscripts show some unconventional verse orderings, minor textual variations, and rare styles of orthography and artistic embellishment. However, the past existence of such manuscripts is well known to Muslims and those that did not completely agree with the Uthmanic text were eliminated in various ways. The recovery of an ancient manuscript dating back to the earliest history of Islam that differs in minor ways from the Uthmanic text and that was eliminated from circulation will hardly cause Muslims to feel the need to rewrite their history; if anything, it will only confirm it for them.” and so you should understand that practising Muslims do know of the existence of these manuscripts but referring to the reasons stated above, we will be unwavering in our belief that the Mushaf is the word of Allah.
    I welcome any arguments that you may present so that I may understand your thought process and I only ask that you keep the discussion civil unlike some that I have had in the past.

    • @elsemorris906
      @elsemorris906 4 роки тому +1

      How is it that the "angel" who supposedly gave the revelations to muhammed did not know muhammed could not read? Isn't the muslim allah "all-knowing?" Why didn't the "angel" just give the tablet to a literate person instead of repeatedly terrorizing muhammed? Yahweh God managed that with Moses, but allah couldn't figure that out with muhammed for some reason.
      How is it possible that over the the 23 long years it took muhammed to make up the revelations in the quan, he never learned to write?
      It appears allah lied when he claimed he would protect the quran: the sahih hadith point to many missing parts of the quran,(for instance -.the forgotten surah mentioned in sahih muslim vol,2, page 501, the missing Satanic verses of muhammed, the stoning,verses that were eaten by a goat, and those parts lost when the memorizers were killed in battle.)

    • @abu5197
      @abu5197 4 роки тому +1

      @@elsemorris906 @J Howe If you actually researched half of the claims made in this video, you would know most are fabricated or stem from weak hadiths.
      If you actually read my response, you would know the Quraysh were an oral community and did not read or write. It was very rare for people to do so and that is why the Quran was transmitted orally. There is not point in comparing modern day customs to societies of old because that is not logical due to the difference in societal practise.
      My response also details the precautions taken to preserve the integrity of the Quran so I will not waste my time because of your ignorance. Please go and read my response again.
      The reference you have provided 'Sahih Muslim vol,2, page 501' for your point is invalid. Please ensure that you present actual reliable sources for your claims.
      Allah and the angel Jibreel are entirely different. Jibreel does not know all that Allah knows so it would not make sense to ask why Jibreel did not know of the Prophet's (P.B.U.H.) illiteracy.
      If you would like to present a point, please make sure that it is valid and that you have verified your sources. I will not waste my time doing your homework for you but you do manage to present a valid point, I will be happy to debate the issue.

    • @elsemorris906
      @elsemorris906 4 роки тому +1

      @@abu5197 You claim the "Qurayash were an oral community,' yet the "god" of Islam didn't know this? How is that possible - I thought allah was "all knowing" ?
      "Allah" sends a spirit with a series of tablets supposedly containing his words (in seven different dialects) that NOBODY CAN READ?
      Yet muhammed managed to find scribes to copy down some of his revelations as he made them up and abrogated them, so SOMEBODY must have been able to read and write on those palm leaves, stones and animal bones they used!
      From Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif-"Many (of the passages) of the Qur’an that were sent down were known by those who died on the day of Yamama . . . but they were not known (by those who) survived them, nor were they written down, nor had Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman (by that time) collected the Qur’an, NOR WERE THEY FOUND WITH EVEN ONE (PERSON) AFTER THEM."
      No wonder the quran is such a disorganized mess - huge chunks of it are missing!

    • @elsemorris906
      @elsemorris906 4 роки тому +2

      @@abu5197 Abu, It's amazing how often muslims try the "weak hadith" ploy. The hadith are the most damning evidence against muhammed's behavior and teachings, aren't they? Yet, since the quran puts obedience to muhammed at the same level as obedience to islam's "god," muslims can't avoid the hadith.
      Who gave Uthman the authority to rewrite the quran 18 years after the death of muhammed? (All those varying versions of the quran existed just 18 yrs. after muhammed's death - yet you claim it was an "ORAL SOCIETY" ??)
      And who gave Uthman authority to DESTROY thousands of qurans - yet the muslim population goes out of its collective mind today if ONE quran is burned?
      When Ibn Umar-son of the second Muslim caliph-heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof’” (Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an).
      One of Muhammad’s companions, Abu Musa, supported this claim when he said that the early Muslims forgot two surahs due to laziness:
      Sahih Muslim 2286-Abu Musa al-Ash’ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur’an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara’at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: “If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust.” And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it . . .
      This shows that entire chapters of the Qur’an were forgotten and are missing from the 30 Arabic qurans in use today. So much for being "perfectly preserved," right?

    • @abu5197
      @abu5197 4 роки тому

      @@elsemorris906 It saddens me to see how uneducated you are on the history of the Quran. What makes me even more confused is your inability to read my replies. My initial response clearly details how the Quran was not compiled during the life of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) and you would have known this if you read my reply.
      Your claim that Allah knew not of the oral nature of the Qurashi community has no basis and is invalid as that is not what was suggested in my response.
      Please stop making assumptions and comment on my argument rather than deducing your own ideas.

  • @telangusan7764
    @telangusan7764 5 років тому +44

    I am so bless to see both of you doing this amazing work

    • @telangusan7764
      @telangusan7764 4 роки тому +1

      @@mosaleh9310 :D laughable indeed. You are left far behind. The sun set in SPRING OF MURKY WATER?? Is that God??

    • @infinitegaming4663
      @infinitegaming4663 4 роки тому

      @@telangusan7764 I don't know why people say that, just do a little research and you'll find why it says that, it is one of the simplest things that non believers try to use

    • @nathanialb9115
      @nathanialb9115 3 роки тому +1

      @@telangusan7764 the quranic verse is talking about the sunset from the human perspective. Have you never seen a sunset beofre or are you living under a rock? What do you see when the sun goes down? Does the sun go inside of the eath like a golf ball or something?

    • @Sweet_Tacos
      @Sweet_Tacos 4 місяці тому

      No I'm pretty sure that's not what it meant🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @itdoesntsaythatzppp2240
    @itdoesntsaythatzppp2240 5 років тому +146

    Ex-muslim here. Thank you Fadi for all these eye opening videos

    • @usingapseudonym2901
      @usingapseudonym2901 5 років тому +37

      Same here lol. We're a growing number, whter we are Christian (like I am now) or agnostic atheist etc. All evidence leads you out of Islam.

    • @ReasonedAnswers
      @ReasonedAnswers 5 років тому +15

      Congratulations to you both!

    • @user-rr9gh5ko1c
      @user-rr9gh5ko1c 5 років тому +10

      Supposedly 30, 37!! 500!! Differents Qurans, and they haven't showed any of them.
      For non arabic speakers you may be overwhelmed unknown sounds and words they're talking about, and you add to that you are unfamiliar with the subject, but if you were to know arabic and the difference scripts and you study the subject you'll know that there is just one Quran.
      I'll use Jay's potato example We all know in English the sound "POTATO" means the roundy vegetable thingy that we commonly write "potato" know get someone who different people with different writing skills and from different areas and ask them to write the sound "potato" these will be some of the probabilities:
      Potato
      Potatou
      Poutato
      Poutatou
      Potatu
      Putato
      Putatu
      but if you ask all of them to point at the roundy vegetable thing they all gonna point at "potato"
      Example in the uk in England a "Mouse" is pronounced "Mawss" but if you go up to Scotland and speak to a Scot person they will pronounce it "Moss".
      The same animal pronounced differently and if you were to script it, in the case of you script it differently depending on your knowledge of the language and the script. the subject matter goes back to the 7th century, and the Arabic scripts have come a long way since then. hence the undotted "unvowelled / Shakl" early manuscript they showed.
      Conclusion: the Quran was initially delivered in an vocal way and the people recorded it according to their respectual level of using the scripts, and some of them were even including their own understanding along the Quranic text. and they even recycled the scarce material on which they wrote the Quran, which is known today as different layers/level and this is an ancient practice well documented by Manuscript scholars.
      Aircrfat : Plane
      Eerkraft : Playn
      Haaa!! you see different Kur'ans, different Qurans!!

    • @hoopoe3093
      @hoopoe3093 5 років тому +11

      Ex Christian here. Thank you Dr. Bart Erhman for exposing the corruption + forgeries of the Bible.

    • @svetlanikolova7673
      @svetlanikolova7673 5 років тому +11

      @@user-rr9gh5ko1c they showed 32 different qurans and you missed that video! Each Quran has a medallion on the front that said it is different from the other

  • @XiagraBalls
    @XiagraBalls 4 роки тому +7

    Atheist here. This was interesting, if not really that surprising. حَمّام حَمام

  • @ReasonedAnswers
    @ReasonedAnswers 5 років тому +39

    Love this series. You are destroying the "perfect preservation" myth.

    • @zarabees2123
      @zarabees2123 5 років тому

      Reasoned Answers apologetics videos ua-cam.com/video/s5pRiwFjnag/v-deo.html.

    • @ihaka439
      @ihaka439 5 років тому +16

      @@zarabees2123 In modern times people have been able to challenge and question the bible and with little if any repercussions but if you question the quran you are racist Islamophobe or bigot then there is harassment of you and your family or death. That is the difference and that is why this work is important

    • @svetlanikolova7673
      @svetlanikolova7673 5 років тому +7

      Sahih Al Bukhari Vol 6 and 8 also show that the Quran is not preserved! They are liars and uneducated!

    • @jayabdih1
      @jayabdih1 5 років тому +1

      Svetla Nikolova: You are also stupid when you try to quote the sahih Bukhari. You know nuts about it. You only read the transaltion based on your stupid intelligence.

    • @cot5930
      @cot5930 5 років тому +4

      @@jayabdih1 which translation would you recommend then? So many to pick :p lol

  • @zackary87kr
    @zackary87kr 5 років тому +15

    This channel has such nice content. You guys deserve more subscribers for sure. Thank you! Perhaps some more collaborative efforts with other channels? Christian Prince perhaps? I know you've had David Wood and Sam Shamoun which were fantastic!

    • @jeffreytay466
      @jeffreytay466 5 років тому

      SLOW and STEADY ! THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANNEL.

  • @jswjsw3203
    @jswjsw3203 2 роки тому +1

    (بِئْسَمَا اشْتَرَوْا بِهِ أَنفُسَهُمْ أَن يَكْفُرُوا بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ بَغْيًا أَن يُنَزِّلَ اللَّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ عَلَىٰ مَن يَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ ۖ فَبَاءُوا بِغَضَبٍ عَلَىٰ غَضَبٍ ۚ وَلِلْكَافِرِينَ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ )

  • @marmosetfreund8506
    @marmosetfreund8506 5 років тому +30

    Thanks for this important work.

    • @mosaleh9310
      @mosaleh9310 4 роки тому

      Marmoset Freund m.ua-cam.com/video/J6FYkWFs8_E/v-deo.html

    • @quranmiracle243
      @quranmiracle243 2 роки тому

      They are laying

  • @aldallika3648
    @aldallika3648 4 роки тому +72

    Study this example: Dog (the animal) in Arabic is written
    كلب
    Most Arabs will read it as KALB
    Some Bedouins or villagers in certain areas will read it as CHALB (as they say it in their dialect)
    But all Arabs will write it exactly the same
    Also if a Bedouin uses the formal Arabic he should pronounce it KALB

    • @Leo-do4tu
      @Leo-do4tu 4 роки тому +1

      Which is the dialect of Arabic "in the heaven" in which Quran was originally written ?

    • @aldallika3648
      @aldallika3648 4 роки тому +8

      @@Leo-do4tu
      I do not understand what you mean by this phrase "written in the heaven" and if the holy Quran is written in the heaven then it is written in a form understood by angels and nobody can claim that angels use the Arabic language because the hadiths claiming the Arabic is the language of paradise are weak hadiths.
      But I know that the Quran was revealed to Muhammad then he recited it in many dialects. When delegates of Arabs visited Al-Medina from different regions, the prophet used to recite the holy Quran in the dialect of the visiting delegates. But the main dialect in Arabic is the dialect of Quraysh of Mecca. Written Arabic is common and it is only in Fusha or formal Arabic which is the standard Arabic for all Arabs today. When an Arab uses Fusha (the formal Arabic) he should forget about his own dialect and concentrate on using only the formal Arabic.

    • @aldallika3648
      @aldallika3648 4 роки тому +13

      @mallu christian prince
      Always ignorant people try to attack Islam out of their ignorance
      The holy Quran was sent as a linguistic miracle to Arabs because they used to pay a lot of attention to the Arabic language. They were shocked with the eloquence and the beauty of its verses. The Arabs who lived in the time of Muhammad where the masters of Arabic language and they were unable to challenge the verses of Quran. God challenged them many times in the Quran to produce something similar but they failed.
      Arabs today do not understand the Arabic language of the Holy quran. They need to use other books to explain the meanings of its verses.
      Arabs (during Omayyad and Abbasid eras) derived the rules of Arabic language (syntax and semantics) from the holy quran....According to the masters of Arabic grammar, any grammatical aspects included in the Quran are considered the grammatical rules of Arabic. Thus any person who claims that there are grammatical mistakes in the holy quran is simply ignorant.

    • @aldallika3648
      @aldallika3648 4 роки тому +3

      @mallu christian prince
      As an Arab, I consider that writing in local dialects is something wrong. The differences among different dialects are merely in the pronunciation of certain vowels or consonants.

    • @aldallika3648
      @aldallika3648 4 роки тому +7

      @mallu christian prince
      I do not believe that the prophet Muhammad married a child. It is ignorant who considers any hadith 100% correct. Only the holy quran is 100% correct . The credibility of books of hadiths vary...for example Sahih Al-Bukhari might be 90 to 95% authentic. Sahih Muslim might be 85 to 90% authentic...some books of hadiths might be 60 to 65% Authentic only.
      By the way, I do not believe that Khadija (the prophet's first wife) was 40 years old when she married the prophet. I believe she was like 30 or 31 years old since she got many children afterwards.

  • @flawedandbeautiful4166
    @flawedandbeautiful4166 5 років тому +13

    I had no idea Hatun is an ex muslim. And here I thought I couldn't respect and admire her more and she goes and proves me wrong😊

    • @flawedandbeautiful4166
      @flawedandbeautiful4166 5 років тому +3

      HISmercies nbounties
      Funny, that's what people say Every Time an ex-muslim comes forward and speaks against Islam. But I should Definitely believe you this time , right?

    • @Bossy23
      @Bossy23 5 років тому +1

      @@flawedandbeautiful4166 believe bro.. there are alot of people like her. Search them on youtube.. and see how many ex muslim fraudster like her... shit like that is normal to us

    • @youtubersground3359
      @youtubersground3359 4 роки тому +1

      if jesus died for their sin then why some people still go to hell by the bible?
      god gave numerous proofs but people choose to believe other people instead of god.god sent the first prophets to israel and they changed the torah then sent jesus pbuh and they made him a god even if the bible itself denies it if
      The bible is a witness on its own changing by humans.
      jesus is not God by the bible itself-
      God is capable of everything right? lets assume he split himslef to three than jesus who is himslef God in flesh calls God my God Matthew 27:46 and worships God in Matthew 26:39 and even if you say that nonsense of even if jesus is God he dont make himslef equal to the father then the bible says God is not a man Numbers 23:19 and that jesus is a man 1 Timothy 2:5.
      For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; the bible
      god then sent mohamed pbuh with the quran where god gave clear proofs
      1.The prefontal cortex role lying and mistake:* ناصية كاذبة خاطئة
      2.God stated the seven layers of atmosphere and each does something:
      What, do you disbelieve in Him who created the earth(the for ground is the same in arabic for ground) in two days, and do you set up compeers to Him? That is the Lord of all Being.
      And He set therein firm mountains over it, and He blessed it, and He ordained therein its diverse sustenance in four days, equal to those who ask.'
      Then He lifted Himself to heaven when it was smoke(reffering to primordial smoke) and said to it and to the earth, "Come willingly, or unwillingly!" They said, "We come willingly."
      So He determined them as seven heavens(the word for hevean is the same for sky in arabic) in two days, and revealed its commandment in every heaven.' So he means seven skies inside the earth and each has its commandment plus god answers the question did he make the earth in six days:no because in the first 2 days there were no sky so no night and morning(a day) so god means a period using the word day.
      3.the pharoh didnt die in the sea with moses pbuh watching
      just look for ramses 2 body its pharaoh body that stayed the same like weirdly the same as god stated
      So today We shall deliver thee with thy body, that thou mayest be a sign to those after thee. Surely many men are heedless of Our signs.'
      the big bang The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.
      superionic water discoverd in 2019:And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place. water with extreme tempreture becomes black and not liquide not solid.
      homo habilis (habil is the one of the children of adam) homo habilis lived 2 million years ago was found with equipment next the fossils and are the second humans after the ''animal evolution'' mistake of scientist darwin
      4.sperm and fetus devlepment excatly.ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ ۚ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ
      5.dinasaurs died because of black smoke that blocked the sun in the day of judgment the same will happen( the day the sky will be black smoke is mentionned in the quran). يَوْمَ تَكُونُ السَّمَاءُ كَالْمُهْلِ /فَارْتَقِبْ يَوْمَ تَأْتِي السَّمَاءُ بِدُخَانٍ مُّبِينٍ
      6.chock waves in the day of judgment when explosion of sun.يوم تمور اسماء مورا
      7. nasa scientist noticed loosing eye seight when going to space . وَلَوْ فَتَحْنَا عَلَيْهِم بَابًا مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ فَظَلُّوا فِيهِ يَعْرُجُونَ (14) لَقَالُوا إِنَّمَا سُكِّرَتْ أَبْصَارُنَا بَلْ نَحْنُ قَوْمٌ مَّسْحُورُونَ
      8.olive tree oil has on of the highest lights (seen with UV) scientifique miracle شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونَةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ
      11.ants and bees communication
      12.crows understand death
      14.internal waves quran أَوْ كَظُلُمَاتٍ فِي بَحْرٍ لُّجِّيٍّ يَغْشَاهُ مَوْجٌ مِّن فَوْقِهِ مَوْجٌ مِّن فَوْقِهِ سَحَابٌ ۚ ظُلُمَاتٌ بَعْضُهَا فَوْقَ بَعْضٍ
      17.he made pairs of thing we cant see is said in the quran( think about it the anti matter plus and minus in
      lectricity)خَلَقَ ٱلْأَزْوَٰجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنۢبِتُ ٱلْأَرْضُ وَمِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ pairs mean sexually and also sun
      ight hell\fire asexual
      ormal reproduction
      18.moutains like ships
      19.mountains like pegs quran
      20.explosion of stars like a painted rose quran فَإِذَا انشَقَّتِ السَّمَاءُ فَكَانَتْ وَرْدَةً كَالدِّهَانِ
      21.weight of clouds
      22.snakes walk and dont scroll quran
      2.the sound of pulsars like knocking وَالسَّمَاءِ وَالطَّارِقِ (1) وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا الطَّارِقُ (2) النَّجْمُ الثَّاقِبُ (3)
      3.jesus was not crusified or died it was made to seem like @t god states in the quran.but the crusification did happen just not jesus.
      22.ALLAH meaning god in arabic is written on the africa picture of NASA which is the same word for god in aramaic the language of jesus alaha or elah and maaaaaany more tectonic plates mouvements وَتَرَى الْجِبَالَ تَحْسَبُهَا جَامِدَةً وَهِيَ تَمُرُّ مَرَّ السَّحَابِ ۚ صُنْعَ اللَّهِ الَّذِي أَتْقَنَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ ۚ إِنَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَفْعَلُونَ ,cosmic structure(a samae binae),expansion of universe وَالسَّمَاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِأَيْدٍ وَإِنَّا
      لَمُوسِعُونَ
      lowest point on earth,the devil made of fire which explains why we cant see it(if you take each component of fire alone you cant see it with your eyes),the fact that we didnt evolve of ancestor between us and monkeys but are a different creature. astronautes look like they are swiming in space وَهُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ
      إِنَّمَا يَخْشَى اللَّهَ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ الْعُلَمَاءُ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزِيزٌ غَفُورٌ
      @t ,,i make my own research but hope this site will help.
      i have been searching for one mistake in n the quran for 10 years havent found one.the ones who says ut has mistake either dont understand arabic and the transelation is not that accurate giving scientifique mistakes by transelating wrong or are liars or sometimes just stupid without any scientific backround or attack islam with that mohammed is a pedophile,dumb ass terrorist who are against the quran,or some other nonsense to hide their mistake.
      dont deny the truth while you heard it.
      greetings from finland.
      all muslims have one quran wherever you Go.
      the quran with excatly 114 verses,the luinguistic miracle,the one who a type of writting was made just for it the ottoman writting.
      the heart never lies just listen to the quran in arabic for half an hour+ how we know all the verses are from God are two things the luinguistic miracles which you will never understand because you dont speak the language +the effect on the heart no other human words do that.and recitaion is called RECITATION for a reason not VERSION the WORDS STAY THE SAME THE ONES FROM God because its the same exact words but in arabic you call spell a house or a car housa or caro and it wont change nothing at all but you wont understand this because you dont speak arabic+two words can be merged in one word in arabic and you can read the one you want but arabic is so complicated you wont understand..
      if you won a debate with jay i will sbecome christian right now...
      وَقُلْ جَاءَ الْحَقُّ وَزَهَقَ الْبَاطِلُ ۚ إِنَّ الْبَاطِلَ كَانَ زَهُوقًا

  • @birdseyeview6523
    @birdseyeview6523 5 років тому +25

    Thank you for all your hard work. God bless you both!

    • @yunusemre550
      @yunusemre550 3 роки тому +1

      The bodies of some Muslims remain fresh in the grave is such a great
      proof of the existence of God and the true religion of Islam . Atheists
      (so-called intellectuals) from all over the world cannot deny this
      truth. There is no doubt that the followers of Islam may be wrong but
      not Islam.

    • @nathanialb9115
      @nathanialb9115 3 роки тому +1

      @@yunusemre550 mashallah brother

  • @religionofpieces3285
    @religionofpieces3285 5 років тому +29

    Ex Muslim. Thanks Smith and Fsdi.

    • @jeffreytay466
      @jeffreytay466 5 років тому +1

      INTERESTING !

    • @ssjeelani398
      @ssjeelani398 4 роки тому +3

      idiot do u have idea what these fools talking about they are misinterpreting Qirat with ahruf
      first learn about Ahruf and Qirat from Qari then try to understand what it is , Quran is only one but it revealed in 7 dialect

    • @AsterixObelixNL
      @AsterixObelixNL 4 роки тому +1

      @@ssjeelani398 wake up my friend. your religious teachers lied to you! traditional islamic doctrine will not survive the information age! enjoy!

    • @ssjeelani398
      @ssjeelani398 4 роки тому +1

      @@AsterixObelixNL hahahha lol u will wake up in hell bro

    • @AsterixObelixNL
      @AsterixObelixNL 4 роки тому +2

      @@ssjeelani398 And you wil get 72 virgin hookers and young virgin boy slaves who are like Pearls in islamic orgy paradise??
      Open your eyes. Never before in history so many muslims left islam, never before in history so many muslims became either Christian, atheist, agnost or whatever. Traditional islam doctrine will not survive information age!
      Wishing you all the best. Stay long enough here on UA-cam, talk with people wth different ideas. If you do that, eventually you will leave islam to. Then you are no longer a slave.

  • @mohdlubiskhan7713
    @mohdlubiskhan7713 3 роки тому +5

    The meaning still the same .
    The Arabic text also evolved nothing new .
    Logic dictate
    Verbal comes first . Text come later .

    • @FaFa-fl1kh
      @FaFa-fl1kh 3 роки тому

      So the texts of the Quranic Tablet in heaven is also updated?

    • @pakbalybee2023
      @pakbalybee2023 3 роки тому

      @@FaFa-fl1kh since when tablet exist in heaven.

    • @pakbalybee2023
      @pakbalybee2023 3 роки тому

      Yes thats correct the meaning of word is the same. How it is spell up to human.

  • @user-ex9pc9ps8x
    @user-ex9pc9ps8x 3 місяці тому

    Showed: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

  • @seanjohn49
    @seanjohn49 2 роки тому +1

    Wow that’s an eye opening! Never knew this

  • @jameslevara8027
    @jameslevara8027 5 років тому +18

    Was it the Iranians who improved the arabic letter later to make it more applicable or workable??

    • @abumutaz8878
      @abumutaz8878 4 роки тому

      Omani muslim (Alkhalil son of Ahmed, tribe= Al frahedei), he put the dots and draw the movements( fathah, kasrah, thamah) to make it easier for non arabs who entered Islam to easly read and understand quran, arabic poems, arabic books, etc.
      Amazingly the arabic poems that were written before islam are still present until today despite it was written in a difficult words, phrases and languistic expression that were famous and used alot those days than now yet they are still preserve.
      On the other hand Quran was memorized and also written (complete) with easy langauage style (vocabulary) and yet they claim (in the video) it is not preserved and with language mistakes!

    • @zarabees2123
      @zarabees2123 4 роки тому

      abu mutaz liars are cowards as you can clearly see of their sayings. Why not invite an Arab & challenge him? Al fadhi the biggest hypocrite

    • @yunusemre550
      @yunusemre550 3 роки тому

      The bodies of some Muslims remain fresh in the grave is such a great
      proof of the existence of God and the true religion of Islam . Atheists
      (so-called intellectuals) from all over the world cannot deny this
      truth. There is no doubt that the followers of Islam may be wrong but
      not Islam.

    • @jameslevara8027
      @jameslevara8027 3 роки тому

      @@yunusemre550 Are they shown publicly??? I am afraid you are hallucinating...

    • @yunusemre550
      @yunusemre550 3 роки тому

      @@jameslevara8027 Assuming that the Qur'an is not an authentic book, then the question is that I have seen with my own eyes the grave of my friend's mother which fell due to rain. His body was the same as it was at the time of burial years later - while the body usually begins to decompose after three days - why doesn't this happen to people of other religions - Why its happen only to people who are associated with Islam. You have any answer?
      ua-cam.com/video/3BNWl5IT1KQ/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/DKtMOduCuwM/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/tMM81ttEOqo/v-deo.html
      These videos that I have sent are obviously you are all considering it as a lie. I have a question for you all.
      Suppose these are true videos,
      will you all accept Islam as the true religion?

  • @wifechadly
    @wifechadly 5 років тому +16

    When any imam leads the prayers infront of a congregation and then in the middle of his recitation of the Quran has a senior moment and forgot the words ... then someone from the back throw the missing word or phrase to help the imam , there is no need for Rasm or vowels ... If you delete ALL the Quran on this planet and burn every manuscripts and every copies ... you can still bring back the Quran ... it is hidden in the heart of the lovers of Allah ( God) ( subhanah) the goal of the Quran is to be recited and memorized ...No one is using a manuscript to recite the Quran 5 times a day ... this is not about Islam it is a research about ink and paper of old time and ignoring the hearts of millions who knows the Quran by heart
    you should research on why does the Quran hides in the heart of the beloved ones ...

    • @davidford15
      @davidford15 5 років тому +3

      "the hearts of millions who knows the Quran by heart" According to those memories, does Muhammad's Quran 23:87 have: "to Allah"? or "Allah's"?
      23.087, www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/16955/pg16955.txt
      Y: They will say, "(They belong) to Allah." Say: "Will ye not then be filled with awe?"
      P: They will say: Unto Allah (all that belongeth). Say: Will ye not then keep duty (unto Him)?
      S: They will say: (This is) Allah's. Say: Will you not then guard (against evil)?
      Arberry translation, archive.org/stream/QuranAJArberry/Quran-A%20J%20Arberry_djvu.txt
      23:85 .... [23:87] They will say, 'God's.' Say: 'Will you not then remember?'
      Maulana Muhammad Ali translation, www.aaiil.org/text/hq/trans/ch23.shtml
      23:87 They will say: (This is) Allah’s. Say: Will you not then guard against evil?

    • @spotthecat2412
      @spotthecat2412 5 років тому +7

      If no one is using the various *Arabic* Qurans and no one finds them authoritative why are they being printed ? If millions of people have memorised this thing how come not one was able to write it down without making a complete hash of it? It is as if you are reading from a script, if all of the printed Qurans were destroyed it would not be long before you would be back to the point before the Uthmanic recension, people reciting different things and fighting each other over it, sooner or later Muslims will have to face the fact that the Quran has not been perfectly preserved.

    • @wifechadly
      @wifechadly 5 років тому

      @@tochukwunjoku( I don't think you know the difference between marbles and walnuts. .. Muhammed Ali , Malcom X , Cat Stevens..and others should have taken permission from you before embracing Islam , because you are so high...

    • @wifechadly
      @wifechadly 5 років тому

      @@spotthecat2412 That is your wish

    • @wifechadly
      @wifechadly 5 років тому

      @@spotthecat2412 in Tanger (Morocco) kids come to tourist to make money and they can speak fluently Spanish , French , Dutch , Italian , Portuguese
      Swidish ... And the shops owners can speak as much ... they never needed a book or manuscript , therefore you should give human that ability to learn without reading , is this hard for you to understand ? many Emigrants to USA speak English without ever reading it ...

  • @jsilvanus240
    @jsilvanus240 5 років тому +16

    The quran is not from the GOD JEHOVAH.
    REVELATION 22:18-19;
    GALATIANS 1:6-9;
    2 CORINTHIANS 11:4.

    • @genli5603
      @genli5603 4 роки тому +2

      FAFA-two reasons. 1. They were the source of the Moloch cult. 2. They had interbred with demons. That’s in the Bible.

    • @mosaleh9310
      @mosaleh9310 4 роки тому

      Islam is the truth stop hating

    • @mosaleh9310
      @mosaleh9310 4 роки тому +1

      If Quran is not from god why is Islam the fastest growing religion

    • @sandy4297
      @sandy4297 4 роки тому

      @@mosaleh9310 NO ITS CORRUPT ADDMIT THAT

    • @sandy4297
      @sandy4297 4 роки тому

      @@mosaleh9310 TTHE NUMBER OF EX MUSLIMS ARE INCREASING U IDIOT

  • @yousraadly7341
    @yousraadly7341 4 роки тому +5

    The original that there is only one copy to Quraan and one islam that the fact but enemies of islam divided the religion and tried to edit quraan and some did and spreadrd copies of it everywhere but thank to Allah this issue is fixed and fake copies got burned , Allah said : we granted Quraan and we will protect it . It is well protected from Allah Alhadulliah.

  • @bossgamer5857
    @bossgamer5857 3 роки тому +3

    At the end of the day Muhammad S.A.W taught all the different variations of the Quran. We didn't change, modify, remove or add anything so the argument is invalid

    • @bossgamer5857
      @bossgamer5857 3 роки тому +1

      Also some muslims learnt the Quran verbally as they were illiterate so the writing changing also isnt valid

  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan3708 5 років тому +25

    Lord is working through you guys. Bless you both ✊❤️
    Jesus is Lord✝️

    • @zarabees2123
      @zarabees2123 5 років тому +1

      Jamal K This is what you need to know ua-cam.com/video/i-lpjvexeuk/v-deo.html

    • @hoopoe3093
      @hoopoe3093 5 років тому +2

      Where did Jesus ever say I AM LORD WORSHIP ME in the Bible? Show me!

    • @jamalkhan3708
      @jamalkhan3708 5 років тому

      F.A F.A Show me who was witnesses of Mohammed?

    • @jamalkhan3708
      @jamalkhan3708 5 років тому +1

      F.A F.A
      Allah is Satan and Mohammed was his messenger.
      Mohammed was a lier fake delusional demons possessed big time sinner man.
      Mohammed was all about money, power, and sex.
      He is burning in hell.

    • @jamalkhan3708
      @jamalkhan3708 5 років тому +1

      Islam is dying. Ex Muslims on the rise. I’m one of them.
      Watch this video ua-cam.com/video/_-pYPWc26Gk/v-deo.html

  • @aailuvrana7393
    @aailuvrana7393 2 роки тому +3

    KEEP IT UP FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY LOVE KINDNESS WOMEN POWER PROSPERITY DIGNITY AND HAPPINESS

  • @henktmmr
    @henktmmr 5 років тому +5

    Thank you for sharing the truth again.

  • @kenneththugge6428
    @kenneththugge6428 4 роки тому +6

    May the almighty bless Jay for his hard work.

    • @DutchmanAmsterdam
      @DutchmanAmsterdam 3 роки тому

      Or he may not. In case he doesn't exist. That is the most obvious.

  • @GimmeMonie
    @GimmeMonie 3 роки тому +4

    (یُرِیدُونَ لِیُطۡفِـُٔوا۟ نُورَ ٱللَّهِ بِأَفۡوَ ٰ⁠هِهِمۡ وَٱللَّهُ مُتِمُّ نُورِهِۦ وَلَوۡ كَرِهَ ٱلۡكَـٰفِرُونَ)
    [سورة الصف 8]

    • @pokerface1837
      @pokerface1837 Рік тому

      Matthew 24:11
      fake prophet mohamet included

    • @MSA-uj7cp
      @MSA-uj7cp 3 місяці тому

      24% of Muslims who come to the West leave Islam.... so Allah is not holding the light for them.

  • @emmancasada7654
    @emmancasada7654 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this very usefull

  • @Exahax101
    @Exahax101 3 роки тому +1

    If you have any confusion watch videos of sheikh uthman Ibn farooq on this.

  • @faction52
    @faction52 3 роки тому +16

    The Quran is an orally transmitted revelation. It was memorised by the conpanions of the prophet and passed on Scripts were not depended on. As Islam grew the script was standardised by Umar to make sure different written Qurans didnt proliferate
    Simple

    • @iajznsnwnz9844
      @iajznsnwnz9844 2 роки тому +2

      Uthman burned majority of other copies except his

    • @mohammedallah8083
      @mohammedallah8083 2 роки тому +2

      All of a sudden it now orally transmitted, not written by allah. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆

    • @iajznsnwnz9844
      @iajznsnwnz9844 2 роки тому +4

      @@mohammedallah8083 it was orally transmitted. The sababa wrote it. Allah never put pen to paper

    • @mohammedallah8083
      @mohammedallah8083 2 роки тому

      @@iajznsnwnz9844Good. Allah never wrote anything.

    • @Emsyaz
      @Emsyaz 2 роки тому +2

      @@mohammedallah8083 but Allah revealed it.
      The Quran's content, wording and recitation is preserved. Even the original Quran manuscript still exist till this day and it can be carbon dated back to the time of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.

  • @MrHyde-fu5sr
    @MrHyde-fu5sr 2 роки тому +5

    When you pulled up that graph at 11:57 I had to stop the view and litterally said "WOW". It clicked.
    Fact: Without those dots you'd have 19 different possible meanings of those three characters. Those dots are *essential*
    Fact: The earliest Qurans didn't had no dots.
    Conclusion: It's not possible to know what the correct meaning of the Quran is. No exagerating. It's not possible. Game over. Mind blown.

  • @combatingdisbelief6504
    @combatingdisbelief6504 3 роки тому +1

    Can we arrange a debate on any topic of your choice so I can answer all your so called evidence?

  • @rebornJacek
    @rebornJacek 7 місяців тому

    The confusion stems from a one-line reference written
    by Al Bukhari in
    870 AD for the need to write the 652 Uthmanic Qur'an
    in the 'Quraishi
    dialect; in other words, to write this Uthmanic text so
    that those who
    speak the Quraishi dialect could read it correctly.
    The problem is that no one could have read such a
    text that early (652
    AD), because in order to read dialectical differences in
    Arabic, one
    needs to have diacritical marks (dots above and below
    the line), and
    Vowels (which include the Dhamah = the oo sound, the
    Fatah = the ah
    sound, and the Kasrah = the ii sound); but diacritical
    marks and vowels
    had not yet been invented in Arabic. They would not
    be introduced for
    another century or more. So, how could Zaid ibn Thabit
    have written
    Uthman's Qur'an in the dialect of the Quraish that
    early?

  • @jameslevara8027
    @jameslevara8027 5 років тому +54

    Lord Jesus is the truth, the way and the life... Thanks for your work Mr Al Fadi and Mr Jay Smith...

    • @deepakkumarsingh2567
      @deepakkumarsingh2567 4 роки тому

      All abrahmiic faiths are bogus and copy paste of earlier thoughts. Story and ideas of Jesus matches Krishna and bhagwat geeta.

    • @safarjannath2337
      @safarjannath2337 4 роки тому +1

      @@deepakkumarsingh2567 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂All Inventors on Earth Speaks are Alouder ▶CHRISTIANS👈
      Now you write how many inventors and Inventions are there from your Religion
      Who all in the world benefited from your inventions even from your religion and gods???
      Sad fellow U are

    • @mosaleh9310
      @mosaleh9310 4 роки тому +3

      Jesus is not lord he said worship my lord and ur lord Allah

    • @jameslevara8027
      @jameslevara8027 4 роки тому

      @@mosaleh9310 Tell me why million of prayers of the Christians in Jesus's name are powerful to rebuke the demons??
      Why Jesus was allowed to forgive the sinners?
      Why Jesus will return to judge the whole world...to decide yourself to be in hell or heaven...
      Why ONLY Jesus went up to heaven??

    • @mosaleh9310
      @mosaleh9310 4 роки тому

      James Levara I would advise you to have a read of the whole Quran and see what Allah has to say about Jesus son of Mary is only a human being like Adam like Moses like Abraham jus a messenger to god he created him like he created Adam he was born a miracle with out a father dnt be so ignorant

  • @osuclassof88
    @osuclassof88 3 роки тому +3

    Despite claims of variants until today there is only one Quran in use. Quran was revealed without manuscript or text.

    • @thezealouschristian9759
      @thezealouschristian9759 3 роки тому

      You know nothing about the quran or its compilation. You do realise that there was even a war between muslims because they had different qurans. Both sides claimed that they had the correct recitation! After Uthman was victorious he had the other sides qurans burned!!! What if that was the rel quran? What if that quran had sayings in it that was from Mohammed? Anyway.... There are over 30 Arabic qurans in use and there are thousands upon thousands of textual variants. So, you have to ask yourself this question! Is Allah so weak and powerless that he can not even keep his promise to guard the quran? Or was the author of the quran a false prophet who lied when he said that Allah will protect it? Pick your poison kid.

    • @osuclassof88
      @osuclassof88 3 роки тому

      @@thezealouschristian9759 i am still waiting for different versions of quran and see if muslims accept them. Awaiting... here

    • @osuclassof88
      @osuclassof88 3 роки тому

      @@thezealouschristian9759 The last twelve verses of the gospel of Mark represent a very big problem for theologians and textual critics. This is because there is a profound DISJUNCTION between these verses and the preceeding text. There is a consensus view among many scholars that this longer ending IS NOT ORIGINAL, BUT WAS ADDED AT SOME LATER TIME TO FILL AN APPARENT GAP. (Page 196)
      ...... Not only that, but the earliest witnesses to the last part of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanicus, lack these 12 verses entirely as indeed do a number of other later sources. .... The ommisions in Sinaiticus and Vaticanicus, far from telling us nothing, do in fact speak volumes. (Book: the invention of jesus, Peter Cresswell, 2013)

  • @ructionradius2888
    @ructionradius2888 2 роки тому +1

    British don't say "pot ahh toe" 🤣 he's getting confused with "tom ahh toe"

  • @friedpickles342
    @friedpickles342 2 роки тому +1

    Why don't you guys invite a muslim scholar to sit down with you and discuss what you've found?

    • @goodthoughts9734
      @goodthoughts9734 2 роки тому

      Brother i just want to khow for clearificatiom that ever al fadi says that quran has 50 different virsion or made any video with title 50 different types of quran ???
      Please help me I really want this information

  • @okanenas2435
    @okanenas2435 4 роки тому +6

    The book: "Corrections in Early Qur'an Manuscripts - Twenty Examples" by Daniel Alan Brubaker might interest you.

  • @jejewa2763
    @jejewa2763 5 років тому +17

    There was no Quor'an in 632. The Quor'an was written or put together by the kaliph Malik!

    • @einc70
      @einc70 5 років тому

      Thanks for the info. Will investigate.
      - Muhammad (Salvation be upon him)
      - Quran (Correction be upon it)
      - Rashidun (Redemption be upon them)
      🙏🙂

    • @jejewa2763
      @jejewa2763 5 років тому +3

      @@einc70 if you want to investigate further, why were till 822 Mosques facing Petra and not Meka, why it is impossible for Meka to be part of the narrative of Islam!

    • @jeffreytay466
      @jeffreytay466 5 років тому

      WOW! TNANK YOU FOR SHARING.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 4 роки тому +2

      @@jejewa2763 Honestly? I think Muhammad himself was a failed doomsday prophet. He told everyone he'd rise after three days. Instead, dogs came in and ate part of his body. It seemed better to forget parts of what he taught. Grab the black stone, bring it to the much more important city of Petra, and bow toward it.

    • @jejewa2763
      @jejewa2763 4 роки тому +3

      @@toomanymarys7355 Mohamad was never a prophet. He was used by people to gain power.

  • @naomicristinemaduro5975
    @naomicristinemaduro5975 2 роки тому

    This is very informative, i have to watch it twice and pause it and rewind just to digest what they are saying, i mean if not of this video, i have no way of knowing these issue or connecting the dots

  • @SonShines1
    @SonShines1 4 роки тому +2

    When I watch tv7 and listen to how he says certain words I don't even recognize them even though he is looking at the same spelling as me

  • @DC-wp6oj
    @DC-wp6oj 4 роки тому +6

    Theres a few issues here:
    1. The Uthman Codex is the verified, cross checked and referenced Quran by the top Quran memorisers of the time. This text exists today (Samarkand Kufic Quran) and can be checked against the Hafs Quran we have today.
    2. The so called different Qurans of today are all produced after the Uthmanic Codex and are accepted by the Ummah according to the laws of Ahruf and Qiraat. If anybody does not accept these texts they can always refer back to the Uthmanic text.
    3. So called scriptural variants were personal records of individuals in the early days of Islam that may have scribal errors, yet when checked against other variants its obvious where scribal errors occurred - these errors are not so big as christians like Brubaker make out and its a miracle in itself how accurate these individual records are. There would be the odd vowel or word out of place at worst on a single page. Even then the whole collection of the ‘variant’ manuscripts can show up where the writer of a variant may have made minor mistakes. Again the authoritative version is the Uthmanic Codex NOT the ‘variant’ writings.
    3. The ‘skeleton’ if the text of the Quran is complete, where scholars have debated is to the placement of grammatical and pronunciation of words. For example Maliki vs Maaaaliki
    4. The Prophet saws in a hadith addressed the issue of dialectic variations and allowed such variations. But again if christians want to assert muslims have many ‘versions’ of the Quran and want to ignore the rules of ahruf and qiraat or that individual variant manuscripts have minor errors then they can always refer back to the Uthmanic Codex compiled only 14yrs after the death of the Prophet saws and by the companions of the Prophet saws who were present during his lifetime.
    5. Challenge any christian to sit down with you and use the Uthmanic Quran, ALL the variant manuscripts and follow word for word the Quran we have today. Ask them to brush up on their arabic.
    6. The christians are trying to say that even if the Quran is 99.9999% correct it cannot be the preserved Quran if it is not 100% correct. You will understand how absurd these people are and how desperate they are to find a 0.0001% inaccuracy. Its a desperation that comes about when you know your own scripture can barely hold itself together.

    • @cevxj
      @cevxj 2 роки тому

      Who says any of us are Christians? This is a history lesson

  • @ExploreTanakh24
    @ExploreTanakh24 5 років тому +43

    when Al Fadi has done his studies, I think he needs to collaborate with Jay Smith and bring a book out with some convicting material. I would buy it and use it when im out doing the gospel. :D

    • @zarabees2123
      @zarabees2123 5 років тому +1

      False Religion & Cults Are From Hell he should collaborate with Bart Ehrman ua-cam.com/video/s5pRiwFjnag/v-deo.html

    • @ExploreTanakh24
      @ExploreTanakh24 5 років тому +2

      @irishxxkelt - I have that book yes, its very good, but that is nothing compared to whats in store. thousands and thousands of new ones will be on its way soon 🙂

    • @ExploreTanakh24
      @ExploreTanakh24 5 років тому +1

      @irishxxkelt - I have followed Jay Smith for a while and ive listened to his videos. He knows a lot of stuff and he knows researchers. The problem is Muslims are ashamed of the material and they know its false. I do the same with Mormons, Jehovahs Witnesses and also the muslims. If they really believe their faith is true, they would be able to respond. instead they are following scripts by false teachers and they are told different what their imam says. It doesnt match the Quran. Thats why when they are at Hyde Park they are shocked.

    • @ExploreTanakh24
      @ExploreTanakh24 5 років тому +1

      @irishxxkelt - I already said I have got the book

    • @zarabees2123
      @zarabees2123 5 років тому

      False Religion & Cults Are From Hell search your own first & see if it is the right God, the right religion.

  • @thefaith01
    @thefaith01 4 роки тому +1

    Put them all in the UA-cam playlist

  • @truefaceofmo8307
    @truefaceofmo8307 3 роки тому

    Fifty shades of Green Quran..

  • @jejewa2763
    @jejewa2763 5 років тому +3

    But the way it was written and this is supported by Muslims scholars was not in Arabic but Syriac and later additional written intonation which defeat the beliefs that not a word or anything was changed as it was the direct word of God, there are today 5 different versions of the Quor'an, meaning that the belief is based on a lie that there is only one Quor'an.

  • @tuahfawnakecik5397
    @tuahfawnakecik5397 5 років тому +8

    The reading maybe different but the meaning is still the same..
    Jay Smith already knew some of the basic in reading the Quran and the chronicles of Quran until became in a book form why make it complicated ???
    Nothing has been changed on the text only that the vowels has been added to assist the readers to read the Quran in a correct manner & disciplines..
    All the Qiraat, the hafs the rasm is only a technical & guidence for the readers..
    The main thing is the Holy Quran has been preserved since it has been reveal to Prophet Muhammad SAW till the modern world today as ALLAH has mentioned ' We revealed the Quran & we'll protect it '

    • @neluroman555
      @neluroman555 5 років тому +11

      Tuahfawna Kecit, I suggest you listen to what it is said in this video, this time carefully, and then say if Quran you read today is the same Quran people listen to 1400 years ago. Diacritical marks and vowels have been added, and that is an important, very important modification. Moreover, the most popular Quran of today, Hafs Quran, is practically a compilation after a recitation ( made in 1924 AD) and it has no any manuscript at its base.
      And oral tradition is the most less reliable way of transmitting a text over generations and generations,

    • @spotthecat2412
      @spotthecat2412 5 років тому +4

      You keep telling yourself that while all around you show otherwise !

    • @wtxohnthao2612
      @wtxohnthao2612 5 років тому +6

      If majority of arabs can't even read the quran then how do they know even know which is the correct Quran? That's the very problem with the Quran. Jay Smith and Al Fadi are just clarifying it.
      But if the quran was really preserved by verbal alone then why need a book? Kinda proves the point from the hadiths where it says"It is reported from Ismail ibn Ibrahim from Ayyub from Naafi from Ibn Umar who said: “Let none of you say ‘I have acquired the whole of the Qur’an’. How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur’an has disappeared? Rather let him say ‘I have acquired what has survived.'” (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur’an, p.524).

    • @m.sh.4035
      @m.sh.4035 5 років тому

      How it can be correct if there were not any dots??????? These dots creating letters.

    • @elsemorris906
      @elsemorris906 5 років тому +2

      Tuahtfawna, if the multiple gods of islam said THEY would "protect it," then why did Caliph Uthman have to destroy multiple differeng versions of the quran before creating his own version ?
      Who gave Uthman the authority to determine the contents of the quran and whiich dialect of Arabic it would be in? After all, muhammed claimed the quran was reavealed in 7 different ahruf (dialects) and claimed ALL of them were correct.(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601)
      Also, if the quran is "protected," why are many revelations missing? The hadith mention several "revelations" that are no longer contained the quran, such as Muhammed's Satanic verses, stoning for adultery, and this one about BREASTFEEDING : "A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that it had been revealed in the Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (saw) died and before that time it was found in the Qur'an. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.740).
      It is clearly stated that the Qur'an had originally contained a verse prescribing a prohibition on the marriage of two people who had been breastfed by the same woman at least ten times. This verse was then abrogated and another was substituted for it, restricting the number to five. Where is this verse in the Qur'an? It too is missing - has it also been abrogated? If so, what came in its place?

  • @JRondeauYUL
    @JRondeauYUL 2 роки тому

    Imagine a full hand written sheet with punctuation or specific spacing to make you realize a different sentence or paragraph in the text.

  • @question44question30
    @question44question30 4 роки тому +31

    “Seeking Allah Finding Jesus” points to different versions of the Quaran too.

    • @Shahid-if4ws
      @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому +4

      There is only one version of Quraan unlike various gospels written in greek when jesus spoke aramaic....
      The Quraan was revealed and originally written without the vowels, this was added later for non arabic readers especially. So "arabic variations" exist due to this, but there is only 1 Quraan.
      explore-islam.com/are-there-different-versions-of-quran/
      Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 2:
      اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ
      Allah, (there is) no god but He, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all things subsist
      Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 3:
      نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ
      He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Taurat (scripture of moses) and the Injeel (scripture of jesus) aforetime.
      Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 4:
      مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ الْفُرْقَانَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَاللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو انتِقَامٍ
      Aforetime, as a guidance to mankind, and it is He who has bestowed the standard by which to discern the true from the false. Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.
      via iQuran

    • @question44question30
      @question44question30 4 роки тому +3

      shahid so you believe that one version has always been the case and you are free to believe as you please, consider another point of view, www.nabeelqureshi.com/seeking-allah-finding-jesus. Different versions say at least to me that I need to find the earliest texts possible. Research, research, research because most people go according to the herd, the herd won’t think. The herd depends on confirmation bias. I have been taken the Bible as is only, but I also consider its critics, but are you allowed to do this with the Quran?

    • @Shahid-if4ws
      @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому +1

      @@question44question30
      Variations in Arabic Quraan only differ in vowels and meanings do not change overall. These variations in reciting were authorised by the prophet. But there is only 1 Quraan. Coming to the Gospels, scholars know the truth of varying manuscripts and lost gospels. All in greek when the language of the messiah was aramaic. Even hebrew bible scholars need to study arabic to learn their own scriptures fully....
      Dr. Gary Miller explains how Muslims follow Jesus better than the Christians;
      ua-cam.com/video/wc-xJ42rBgw/v-deo.html
      1. Jesus taught that there is only One God and Only God should be worshipped as taught in Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29.
      Muslims also believe this as taught in the Qur’an verse 4:171.
      2. Jesus didn’t eat pork as taught in Leviticus 11:7, and neither do Muslims as taught in the Qur’an verse 6:145.
      3. Jesus greeted with the words “as salaamualaikum” (Peace be with you) in John 20:21. Muslims also greet each other this way.
      4. Jesus always said “God Willing” (inshallah), Muslims say this too before doing anything as taught in the Qur’an verses 18:23-24.
      5. Jesus washed his face, hands, and feet before praying. The Muslims do the same.
      6. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible offerd prayer with their head to the ground (see Matthew 26:39). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verse 3:43.
      7. Jesus had beard and wore a throbe. It is Sunnah for Muslim men to do the same.
      8. Jesus followed the law and believed in all the prophets, (see Matthew 5:17). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an
      verses 3:84, and 2:285.
      9. Jesus’ mother Maryam dressed modestly by fully covering her body and wearing a headscarf (hijab) as found in 1 Timothy 2:9, Genesis 24:64-65, and Corinthians 11:6. Muslim women modestly dress the same as taught in the Qur’an verse 33:59.
      10. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible fasting up to 40 days (see Exodus 34:28, Daniel 10:2-6, Kings 19:8, and Matthew 4:1- Muslims do so also during the month of Ramadan. Muslims are required to fast the full obligatory 30 days (see Qur’an 2:183), and others take it a step further by fasting an additional 6 days to increase their rewards.
      11. Jesus taught to say “Peace to this house” when entering it (see Luke 10:5), and to also greet the people in the house with “peace be unto you”. Muslims do exactly what Jesus did and taught. When we enter our homes and the homes of others we say “Bismillah” and also greet with "as salaamu alaikum” (peace be upon you) as taught in the Qur’an verse 24:61.
      12. Jesus was circumcised. Circumcision is 1 of the 5 fitrah in Islam, so Muslim men are required to be circumcised. According to the Bible in Luke 2:21, Jesus was eight days old when he was circumcised. In the Torah, Allah/God stated to the Prophet Abraham that it is an “Everlasting covenant” (see Genesis 17:13). In the Qur’an verse 16:123 Muslims are required to follow the religion of Abraham. The Prophet Muhammad said, “The Prophet Abraham circumcised himself when he was eighty years old.”
      13. Jesus spoke aramaic and called God ”Elah”, which is pronounced the same as “Allah”. Aramaic is an ancient, Biblical language. It is one of the Semitic languages that also include Hebrew, Arabic, Ethiopic and the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian language of Akkadian.
      The Aramaic ”Elah” and the Arabic “Allah” are the same.
      The Aramaic “Elah” is derived from the Arabic “Allah”, and it means “GOD”. “Allah” in Arabic also means ”GOD”, the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easily see the similarity in their pronunciation so this concludes that the God of Jesus is also the God of the Muslims, of all mankind, and all that exist.

    • @Shahid-if4ws
      @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому +1

      @@question44question30
      One of the many problems i have with the bibles is the way they negatively protray the prophets and men of God, some as drunkards others as adulterators and murders. The quraan holds the previous prophets in high esteem and as examples to mankind. Just watch the below video;
      Prophets in Bible v Quraan;
      ua-cam.com/video/XU5xSzE8hGg/v-deo.html
      Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 79:
      فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ يَكْتُبُونَ الْكِتَابَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ثُمَّ يَقُولُونَ هَٰذَا مِنْ عِندِ اللَّهِ لِيَشْتَرُوا بِهِ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا فَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا كَتَبَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا يَكْسِبُونَ
      Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: This is from Allah, so that they may take for it a small price; therefore woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
      via iQuran
      Jeremiah 8;8
      “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the lawof the Lord,”
      when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
      How Bible Changed;
      ua-cam.com/video/6xMo323BDvY/v-deo.html
      Contradictions in Old Testament by Dr. L. Brown;
      ua-cam.com/video/t4FGrSiABhg/v-deo.html

    • @Shahid-if4ws
      @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому

      Surah Al-Hijr, Verse 9:
      إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ
      Surely We have revealed the Reminder (Quraan) and We will most surely be its guardian.
      via iQuran
      The entire Quran was memorized verbatim (word for word) by many of the Prophet’s Companions (males and females). Among them were Zaid ibn Thabit, Ubayy ibn Ka’b, Muadh ibn Jabal, and Abu Zaid.
      Abu Bakr decided to appoint Zaid ibn Thabit to compile all of the written verses of the Qur’an into one collection, using only those verses which had been written in the presence of the Prophet ﷺ himself. These manuscripts would then be verified by those who had memorised the entire Qur’an at the hands of the Prophet himself. This was where the important concept of tawatur, or multiply attested sources, came into play. In order to be 100% sure that a verse of the Quran was in fact a verse of the Quran, it needed to have multiple independent chains of transmissions from different memorisers of the Quran. In this way, any verse that came to Zaid could be corroborated through both written and oral means, essentially guaranteeing that every single verse put in the final book was conveyed by the Prophet ﷺ. Once this had been completed by Zaid, he penned the completed text which became known as the Suhuf, and gave it to Abu Bakr. This was now the official text of the Qur’an.
      Narrated Ibn `Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) was the most generous amongst the people, and he used to be more so in the month of Ramadan when Gabriel visited him, and Gabriel used to meet him on every night of Ramadan till the end of the month. The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to recite the Holy Qur'an to Gabriel, and when Gabriel met him, he used to be more generous than a fast wind (which causes rain and welfare).
      (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 30, Hadith 12)
      No other religious scripture was compiled with such accuracy...

  • @premprakashjauhari2751
    @premprakashjauhari2751 4 роки тому +11

    I will like Jay Smith to write a comprehensive book on Quran since he has done so much research on manuscript of Quran and its credibility. This should be published in India so that it's cheap and has very wide circulation. All videos done by him can be incorporated and given a continuity in reading.

  • @habibjaji2964
    @habibjaji2964 4 роки тому +4

    With all respect you talk a lot but not going into details about conflicting meanings/messages.

  • @whereafterdeathafterdeath2087
    @whereafterdeathafterdeath2087 2 роки тому +2

    Muslim brother and sister
    Ask yourself
    1 Why is Christ unique in that he was born of a virgin without a human father?
    2 Why divide history into before and after birth?
    3 Why was he alone in ascending alive to heaven?
    4 Why is he alone in being the son of the purest woman whom God has chosen over all the women of the worlds?
    Which is better than Amna, Khadija and Aisha?
    5 Why is he alone without sin ?
    6 Why is he alone in the ability to create a bird out of clay?
    7 Why did he only predict his death, its method, and his resurrection?
    8 Why is he the main character in the Qur’an..he was mentioned more than Muhammad?
    He is the only one who has been described as the word and spirit of Allah.
    9 Why is he alone in condemning people?
    No human has done this
    Because he is Allah manifesting in man
    For this
    People called him the teacher though he didn't go to university.
    People called him the king though he didn't have an army or enter battles.
    The people called him the master, though he had no slaves
    Two and a half billion people followed him, though he did not promise them my servants or boys!
    His book is the Bible, and Muhammad's book is the Qur'an
    Why don't you read his book the Bible to properly learn about his teachings ?!

    As for Muhammad, his morals are decadent!
    Why did Muhammad enter Hudhayfah between his legs while he was in women's clothing, then he kneeled and prostrated while he was between his legs!!
    Why while 53 years old consumed sex with Aisha 6 years old?
    And why did Muhammad suck the top of the penis of the child Hussain?
    Why suck child Zainab's tongue!!! And kissed between her breasts?
    My cousin Abu Sufyan said: You molested me.
    And he said to Maaez.. a bad word you “fucked” her !
    He ordered tying Om kirfa a 110 years old woman between 2 running camels to split her in halves?
    All of them are from true hadeeth ( confirmed documentations)
    What decadence!
    Compare his morals with the morals of Jesus before you die and you will be surprised that you came to the fire.

    • @goodthoughts9734
      @goodthoughts9734 2 роки тому

      Brother i just want to khow for clearificatiom that ever al fadi says that quran has 50 different virsion or made any video with title 50 different types of quran ???
      Please help me I really want this information

    • @whereafterdeathafterdeath2087
      @whereafterdeathafterdeath2087 2 роки тому

      @@goodthoughts9734 hello why not go into their site in English and search, they have more than 500 episodes over 20 years showing all the hidden books of Hadeeth quraan, they made hundreds of thousands of people convert to Christianity that is why there is a bounty on his head 60 million dollars

  • @tajtagore4117
    @tajtagore4117 4 роки тому +1

    The verbal tradition of the quran should mitigate these differences right? And contextually certain words just make sense right? In addition to this the 1924 eqyptian version is used today which directly correlates its writing with the dialect of the prophet. Naturally it is impossible to prevent different dialects to write their version of the quran down but the Prophet's dialect is preserved and I see all of this as a stretch.

  • @stuartjohnson5686
    @stuartjohnson5686 5 років тому +4

    Hebrew not written with vowels which is why no one knows how to pronounce the name of God quoted to Moses. Is it Yahweh or Jehovah or something else?

    • @123dsj123
      @123dsj123 5 років тому +2

      You are right. The original Hebrew letters do not have vowels; thus, making it impossible for us to correctly pronounce God’s Name: YHWH. However, it is pronounced “YAHWEH” or JEHOVAH” depending on the vowels one decides to use to help in pronouncing it. But the pronunciation is not important, because there is a commandment against pronouncing God’s Name. Exodus 20:7 reads, “Thou shall not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.”
      Interestingly, when the Bible translators translated the Bible from its three original languages (Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic) to other languages, they used the word “LORD” which they spelled in capital letters to replace “YHWH”. In other words, “YHWH” = “LORD”. Example: Genesis 4:9 is translated this way: And the LORD said unto Cain, “Where is Abel, thy brother?”
      Some Hebrew scholars have determined that the Hebrew letters for “YHWH” are the same letters used to describe “Hands and Nails”. That is remarkable.

    • @genli5603
      @genli5603 4 роки тому

      It can be deduced with confidence. Jehovah is wrong.

    • @halaheleu7013
      @halaheleu7013 4 роки тому

      There was no Hard J sound in Hebrew or Greek or even early English language.

    • @stuartjohnson5686
      @stuartjohnson5686 3 роки тому

      I stated a fact. I made not judgement about the original languages. God's word judges us we are not supposed to judge it.

  • @slimlizad2513
    @slimlizad2513 5 років тому +4

    thank al fadi god bless u

  • @yassir8255
    @yassir8255 Рік тому +1

    I think you failed to understand these changes are just changes in words and letters due to how arabs were different from time to time, and therefore had different way of writings. But The message stays the same and the meanings stays exactly the same And that's all what matters.

    • @Fatimashah2000
      @Fatimashah2000 Рік тому

      No it’s meaning are also changed allah’s promised was that no change in quran even a dot is not available but there are 31 types quran which has different meanings in different ayaats

  • @wn555
    @wn555 5 років тому +2

    Could you please list out all the versions. Some are too small to see.

  • @safarjannath2337
    @safarjannath2337 4 роки тому +7

    JESUS SAID: If You know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set You FREE
    TRUTH is the WORD of GOD
    JESUS said I AM the TRUTH

    • @MuhammadAadilurRehman
      @MuhammadAadilurRehman 3 роки тому

      JESUS (PBUH) Said, "When the Comforter, the Holy Spirit has Come - the Spirit of Truth, he will Teach you All Things"
      John 16:13, Gospel
      [And thus,] when he, the Spirit of Truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he will hear, [that] he will speak, and he will show you things to come."

    • @ashik561
      @ashik561 3 роки тому +1

      Jesus said dont call me good .
      The one who is good is god

  • @jameslevara8027
    @jameslevara8027 5 років тому +13

    How can we know which is which in qur'an ?? it can be interpreted in many different ways and meanings

    • @Shahid-if4ws
      @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому +3

      There is only one version of Quraan unlike various gospels written in greek when jesus spoke aramaic....
      The Quraan was revealed and originally written without the vowels, this was added later for non arabic readers especially. So "arabic variations" exist due to this, but there is only 1 Quraan.
      explore-islam.com/are-there-different-versions-of-quran/
      Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 2:
      اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ
      Allah, (there is) no god but He, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all things subsist
      Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 3:
      نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ
      He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Taurat (scripture of moses) and the Injeel (scripture of jesus) aforetime.
      Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 4:
      مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ الْفُرْقَانَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَاللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو انتِقَامٍ
      Aforetime, as a guidance to mankind, and it is He who has bestowed the standard by which to discern the true from the false. Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.
      via iQuran

    • @jameslevara8027
      @jameslevara8027 4 роки тому +2

      @@Shahid-if4ws There are 36 different versions of Arabic qur'an all over the world....
      There is ONLY ONE greek version of the Bible.... and our Bible has been translated in many different languages all over the world...even Dr Yasir Qadhi (Islamic scholars of Pakistan) said that at least he found three different version of ARABIC Qur'an

    • @Shahid-if4ws
      @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому

      @@jameslevara8027
      Lol.
      There are unknown number of greek gosoels, the number known go into hundreds.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels
      Jeremiah 8;8
      “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the lawof the Lord,”
      when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
      How Bible Changed;
      ua-cam.com/video/6xMo323BDvY/v-deo.html
      Contradictions in Old Testament by Dr. L. Brown;
      ua-cam.com/video/t4FGrSiABhg/v-deo.html
      Ive already answered that arabic Quraan only varies in some vowels, meaning that they only differ when reciting, meaning does not change.

    • @jameslevara8027
      @jameslevara8027 4 роки тому +1

      @@Shahid-if4ws The verse you quoted was addressed to the people who against God...
      that is a silly thing in your mind...NOT logic...
      The accusation that our Bible has changed is against the character of God who is able to protect his own word...
      Moreover... our Bible is so perfect that some detail on the important events in the history of the creation till he time of Noah were written perfectly in sequence... which you can not find it in your qur'an....
      How come you followed a'prophet' who had been bewitched by the demon?? It is obvious that Mohammad was a false prophet... or a prophet of the demons...
      Dr Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith has proven how those changes in writing has serious impact on its meaning... So the claims of the Muslim that their qur'an has not been changed even one single dot is completely FALSE...
      You will be ended in hellfire together with your allah the great deceiver....

    • @jameslevara8027
      @jameslevara8027 4 роки тому +1

      @@Shahid-if4ws How come your qur'an revealed a false prophecy that the corpse of Mohammad will NOT be consumed by the earth??? It is clearly that Mohammad's corpse has been decayed...
      How come your Mohammad died by poisoning? his allah was NOT able to protect him??
      His allah is just a great deceiver...

  • @danmyself5341
    @danmyself5341 4 роки тому +3

    I like the way he recycled the table cloth on his head

    • @Alladin2001
      @Alladin2001 4 роки тому

      That's the only way Jay Smith can get traction and attention.

  • @mazariqbal9514
    @mazariqbal9514 4 роки тому +1

    Al fadi why are there over 200 types of bible?...

  • @Shahid-if4ws
    @Shahid-if4ws 4 роки тому +4

    There is only one version of Quraan unlike various gospels written in greek when jesus spoke aramaic....
    Allah’s Apostle added, “This Qurʾān has been revealed to be recited in seven different aḥruf, so recite it whichever way is easier for you.” Sahih Al Bukhari, 5041.
    As regards the preservation of the Qur’an, Muhammad Mustafa al-A’zami’s The History of the Qur’anic Text gives a full treatment to this subject.
    To be brief: the original Arabic doesn’t require the diacritical markings; it’s been developed to help the masses read with ease. So all seven qira’at can be read out of that one text, even if they do have subtle variations in the meaning, because all the meanings in the different qiraat are considered to be complementary and acceptable meanings. But no difference in core beliefs and practices.
    "arabic variations" today are different prints, editions, tafseers, and translations into local arabic dialects, but there is only 1 Quraan.
    explore-islam.com/are-there-different-versions-of-quran/
    Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 2:
    اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ
    Allah, (there is) no god but He, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all things subsist
    Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 3:
    نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ
    He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Taurat (scripture of moses) and the Injeel (scripture of jesus) aforetime.
    Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 4:
    مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ الْفُرْقَانَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَاللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو انتِقَامٍ
    Aforetime, as a guidance to mankind, and it is He who has bestowed the standard by which to discern the true from the false. Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.
    via iQuran

  • @jejewa2763
    @jejewa2763 5 років тому +23

    OMG I was wrong, 31 different manuscripts . WOW

    • @nicktronson2977
      @nicktronson2977 4 роки тому +9

      @Maester Auron the Quran is dishonest regardless of how many versions there are.

    • @canisxv9869
      @canisxv9869 4 роки тому +3

      @Maester Auron I highly doubt the creator of everything would waste his time in mikromanaging the life of his followers. Dont you think God has better things to do then to introduce so many ridicilous followings which are simply outdated in the 21st century????

    • @safarjannath2337
      @safarjannath2337 4 роки тому +2

      @Maester Auron You Don't know JESUS is the WORD of GOD,
      this Proceeds from the mouth of GOD, and this WORD does not Return VOID to HIM
      and this WORD does not Change
      and HEAVEN and EARTH shall Passaway but MY WORD shall not Pass away this is the ETERNAL WORD of GOD
      this is the WORD is LIFE
      this is the WORD is LIGHT of the WORLD
      this is the WORD if we Obey GOD Honours those who Obeys/Listen
      GOD made the SEEN and UNSEEN by HIS WORD: the CREATOR
      And this WORD was made FLESH and Dewlt among us this is JESUS the LORD of HEAVEN and EARTH
      JESUS comes from the BOSOM of the FATHER (GOD) and JESUS sent SPIRIT of GOD the OMNIPRESENT and PRESENT with US till the END of the Age

    • @Filipenses-cv9xi
      @Filipenses-cv9xi 4 роки тому

      @Maester Auron my friend the quran denies that Jesus was crucified.
      But the quran teaches to believe in the gospel.
      Surah 5:47.
      Then why try to make changes to it.
      That is just wrong.
      Not a good sign.

    • @Filipenses-cv9xi
      @Filipenses-cv9xi 4 роки тому

      @Maester Auron my friend if you can read a bible please read this.
      Luke 1:1-35.
      John 14:1-16.
      John 16:1-15.
      Mathew 8:28-34.
      Isaiah 53:1-12.
      Revelations 1:1-20.
      Revelations 5:1-14.
      My friend God bless you.

  • @ldswife5339
    @ldswife5339 4 роки тому +1

    Good series

  • @bolladeen
    @bolladeen 2 роки тому +1

    They don't even understand and able to differentiate version and edition...

    • @goodthoughts9734
      @goodthoughts9734 2 роки тому

      Brother i just want to khow for clearificatiom that ever al fadi says that quran has 50 different virsion or made any video with title 50 different types of quran ???
      Please help me I really want this information

  • @danijelakelava6602
    @danijelakelava6602 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you honestly from the bottom of my heart for bringing the gospel to the muslim people. It is good to have and build this knowledge. Besides saudi arabia or Arab countries i also suggest you, that you discover, what was going on in islam in Iran. As a Christian i have seen that and lived that in Iran. You are going to discover shocking things.

  • @hindusthaniprophitprophit9530
    @hindusthaniprophitprophit9530 5 років тому +16

    God bless you both sir al fadi and jay

    • @aboodia4315
      @aboodia4315 4 роки тому

      May Allah Curse you. MAY THE ANGELES CURSE YOU AND ALL OF MANKIND CURSE YOU TOGETHER YAH KELB FADI AND JAY.

  • @danijelakelava6602
    @danijelakelava6602 3 роки тому +2

    You have so interesting episodes.

  • @tralala827727
    @tralala827727 4 роки тому +2

    You should make this in Arabic!

  • @davidbassey693
    @davidbassey693 3 роки тому +2

    I suggest that these videos should also be transcripted and save in written format so that there could be used for academic purposes.

    • @asmaaeldeeb4225
      @asmaaeldeeb4225 3 роки тому

      Academic purposes do not use false information

    • @davidbassey693
      @davidbassey693 3 роки тому +1

      @@asmaaeldeeb4225 from all indications, you don't have the ability to decipher what is truth because you're in a false and deceptive religion.
      A religion that encourages lying by it's faithful in defense of it and is convenient with deception yet you have the effontary to talk about false information.
      What's false about what Al-Fahdi and Jay Smith are doing?, Or are you now denying your Islamic manuscript?.
      Better still, you have just exposed your ignorance about your false religion and you can't seem to be able to handle the truth.
      Why don't you dam the consequences and accept the love of God through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and be saved. Jesus Christ loves you come on home brother.

    • @asmaaeldeeb4225
      @asmaaeldeeb4225 3 роки тому

      @@davidbassey693 Also Your comment indicates your little knowledge about Islam.
      Actually I'm following jesus (PBUH)
      But Why do you believe in Jesus as God while he never said this?
      He even said that Father in heaven is the only true God.
      So i worship the God of jesus,
      This is my religion bro 🤍

    • @davidbassey693
      @davidbassey693 3 роки тому

      @@asmaaeldeeb4225 Don't change the subject and besides Jesus never encouraged Christians to lie to protect Christiandom like your Taqquiya.
      Islam is a religion without integrity.

    • @asmaaeldeeb4225
      @asmaaeldeeb4225 3 роки тому

      @@davidbassey693 Lol😂😂
      You mean taqiyya that Paul started,
      Read 1 Co 9:20 To the Jews I became like a Jew to gain the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law) to gain those under the law. 21 To those free from the law I became like one free from the law (though I am not free from God’s law but under the law of Christ) to gain those free from the law ?
      Sorry, this was paul, who Christians follow!
      By the way, I didn't change the subject, you are the one who advised me to accept Jesus, so i told you we Muslims are following Jesus peace be upon him more than you do

  • @c-tap5356
    @c-tap5356 3 роки тому +4

    Fifty shades of a holey book 📚

  • @fathibenghezala4908
    @fathibenghezala4908 3 роки тому +1

    But you forget that the frequency of transmission of the Noble Qur’an from generation to generation is a well-known matter; it is just as if we ask to prove the frequency of news of the existence of a country such as China for example. Every generation memorized the Qur’an and transmitted it verbally to the other generation. From the first revelation of our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to this day, people do not disagree about it. The Ottoman Qur’an was not the first source, they were taken from the Companions of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

    • @yojan9238
      @yojan9238 2 роки тому

      Yup. This is true. The technic of 'riwayah' and 'isnad' are special only to Islam. Muslims are not a bunch of people who only relied upon written paper or parchments only as the source of their religion.

    • @nitin9857
      @nitin9857 2 роки тому

      What was role of 40+ "Katiben e wahi" Appointed by Mohmmad.

  • @sitinaharin6913
    @sitinaharin6913 Рік тому

    every day Mecca is visited by millions of Muslims from all corners of the world.... not a single Muslim protested against the recitation of the Koran by the imam of the Grand Mosque.
    don't you think..

  • @logosministry8547
    @logosministry8547 5 років тому +7

    Amazing , God Bless You الرب يباركم

  • @asmaaeldeeb4225
    @asmaaeldeeb4225 3 роки тому +14

    "If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants."

    • @davidbassey693
      @davidbassey693 3 роки тому +5

      Mankind wouldn't bother with such arrant nonsense as producing the quran, because it's the worst book ever plagiarized and of course the jinn will consent to producing such foolishness because there are Scions of Satan and of course enjoy deception.
      Kindly put up just one verse in the quran that makes it exquisite. The stories in the quran are not sequencial and it takes so much energy to read. Even the Hadith makes a better reading than the quran.

    • @allahisthegreatest6302
      @allahisthegreatest6302 2 роки тому +2

      Look at word symmetry in the holy quran. Blew me away when i saw it..

    • @asmaaeldeeb4225
      @asmaaeldeeb4225 2 роки тому

      @@allahisthegreatest6302 My friend, Don't reply him because he doesn't speak politely and insults Allah and prophet Muhammad PBUH

    • @allahisthegreatest6302
      @allahisthegreatest6302 2 роки тому +1

      @@asmaaeldeeb4225 ok bro thank u

    • @allahisthegreatest6302
      @allahisthegreatest6302 2 роки тому +1

      @@asmaaeldeeb4225the holy Quran
      Al hayat” (life), 145 times; “al mawt” (death), 145 times“al-dunya” (mundane life), 115 times; “al akhira” (the afterlife), 115 times“malaika” (angels), 88 times; “shayatin” (demons), 88 times“ar rajul (man), 24 times; “al mar’a (woman), 24 times“as salihat (good deeds), 167 times; “as sayya’at” (wrong doings), 167 times“qul” (say), 332 times; “qalu” (said), 332 times“an nas” (people), 50 times; “an nabiya” (prophets), 50 times“al muslimat” (Muslim women), 41 times; “al muslimin” (Muslim men), 41 times"yawma-izhin" (That day), 70 times; "qiyama" (Judgment day), 70 times"dunya" (near), 115 times; "akhira" (far), 115 times"shitaa" (winter), 1 time; "sayf" (summer), 1 time"Isa" (Yahushua), 25 times; "Adam", 25 times
      Iblis the devil is mentioned 11 times and seek refuge from iblis the devil is mentioned 11 times.
      Belief and disbelief 17 times
      Clay (teen and sperm (nutufa
      112 times (how ALLAH says he made us)
      Charity (zakat and blessings (baraka same amount of times.
      The words "Sea" and "Land" are used 32 and 13 times respectively in the Quran. 32 plus 13 equals 45, and the two words make up 71.1 and 28.9 percent respectively of those 45. These percentages roughly correspond to what we today know the proportion of the Earth's surface made up of water and land to be."Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same:
      al-Fatihah in itself has 7 verses, 3.5 dedicated towards our praise of the Omnipotent, and the next 3.5 dedicated towards our prayers to the Omnipotent.The words “salawat” (prayers) and "aqimis-salah" (establish prayer) are mentioned 5 times in the Quran, the same as the number of mandatory daily prayers.The word "alwan" (colors) is written 7 times, the same as the number of colors of the rainbow.The words "samawat" + "sab" (heavens + seven) are written together 7 times, the same as the number of heavens described in the Quran.There are 365 days in a year. The word "yawm" (day in singular) is written exactly 365 times.
      Months written 12 times
      Muslims circumambulate around the Qibla, seven times during pilgrimage. The word ‘Qibla’ is used in the whole Quran exactly seven times: 2:142:8, 2:143:15, 2:144:8, 2:145:10, 2:145:14, 2:145:18, and 10:87:12"
      www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_in_the_Quran&ved=2ahUKEwjC8KWIgbjxAhULQEEAHThcBFwQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0fvhfLuAaW4M9JHqnXti5h&cshid=1624803774708

  • @aymen222
    @aymen222 2 роки тому

    So you’re attacking the bible when your book has several versions also

    • @seal9390
      @seal9390 Рік тому

      Different translations not versions.

  • @irtizahussain5001
    @irtizahussain5001 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely love the dedication.I am saying this even though i am on the opposing team.

    • @sludgefactory2459
      @sludgefactory2459 3 роки тому +1

      Same here, we should be open towards knowledge! Being blind towards can certainly be problematic!

  • @andiwicaksono5318
    @andiwicaksono5318 4 роки тому +4

    Since i realize there are many different quran, i like to buy them. Can cira be the distributor for the book?

    • @cryingpeople98
      @cryingpeople98 2 місяці тому

      Tajweed Qur'an with the Ten Readings (On the Margins) : Mushaf al Tajweed Al Qirat al Ashar

  • @fabians3516
    @fabians3516 5 років тому +37

    Jesus Bless, Amen.

  • @RevCRsanchez6794
    @RevCRsanchez6794 Рік тому

    Here the question. Doesn Bukari note that when Uthman had the Quran retranslated into Arabic he stated that if the translators disagree on a word or anything regarding the Quran to translated it in the Qureshi dialect? I have been looking for the orignal Quran that was revealed by muhammad. What bothered me was that Muhammad did not speak Arabic. He spoke in the language of the Nabatean Christians which was ARamaic . So they retranslated the Quran from its original Aramaic language into the Arabic language. The point? Since the Quran could be recited 7 different ways per reciter and he said this to his companion when he was alive and he spoke Aramaic, what was the 7 dialects of Aramaic and which one did they choose to translate from. Aramaic is not Arabic, it is not even modern Arablic. When a Muslim tells me that the Quran was revealed in Arabic I quickly correct them and say that Muhammad never spoke a word of Arabic. What you have is someone's translation of an Aramaic Quran. There is no record of the Aramaic Qurans because Uthman had them confiscated and destroyed, in the name of preserving the unity of the Umma. In reality He highjacked the Quran and spread his Quran all over the Islamic empire. When Uthman was assassinated? His Quran was destroyed and all copies of it. So we don't even have one complete Uthmanic Quran. So how do they know what they are reciting is what Muhammed really say? There is no way of them knowing. All they can fall on is the chain of narrators . But that is not even reliable because no chain of narration can be reliabily traced to Muhammed. .

    • @bamzerdaniel1997
      @bamzerdaniel1997 Рік тому

      …where did you get that the prophet didn’t speak Arabic?

  • @Amir-ze2kv
    @Amir-ze2kv 7 днів тому

    You just talk an talk but not showing any contradiction

  • @professionalengineer1876
    @professionalengineer1876 5 років тому +34

    May the good Lord strengthen you more in Jesus name.

    • @mohammadkhanghafoor1470
      @mohammadkhanghafoor1470 3 роки тому

      There is only One God

    • @secilrods5170
      @secilrods5170 3 роки тому +1

      @@mohammadkhanghafoor1470
      One god qureshi god Allah one among 360 ?

    • @piandaud4080
      @piandaud4080 3 роки тому

      @@secilrods5170 one God is one God. Not 3 in 1 but at the same time is 3 but not say 3 because it's 1. Confusing indeed on this paganism

    • @secilrods5170
      @secilrods5170 3 роки тому

      @@piandaud4080
      God , gods word ( jesus christ ) and his strenght is holy spirit , dear you speak with your word , you have your strength , individually god's word and god's strength have identity but in unity it is one , that is what god according to christanity
      Your allah is one sitting on throne has hands and legs ,
      Like all pagan god , your allah , why you try to link your fake god with YHWH , and your essa to jesus , dont you have identity of your own

    • @piandaud4080
      @piandaud4080 3 роки тому

      @@secilrods5170 wow. You speaking human language? Because I did not even understand what you really saying. No wonder you can understand it's 3 but not 3 but it's 1, but at the same time it's 3 but don't say 3 but it's 1. Amazing. Totally paganism to worship the creation not the creator.

  • @daviddelossantosjr2259
    @daviddelossantosjr2259 5 років тому +3

    Amen!

    • @joesoliven6243
      @joesoliven6243 4 роки тому

      Need your help. Is it "Amen Ra", you're trying to convey?

  • @aragon8708
    @aragon8708 3 роки тому

    Can somebody please explain to me because there is one book written that Muhammad died without any problem but died peacefully but there is other book in which Muhammad died by poisen .what actually the truth 😐🤔

  • @mohdlubiskhan7713
    @mohdlubiskhan7713 3 роки тому +2

    Till today nobody can make a verse same quality as the Qur'an.

    • @Rising_Star922
      @Rising_Star922 3 роки тому

      Funny
      If someone makes and get it to you
      He must would be killed
      Hehehhe
      Otherwise what is in the Quraan what a person cannot write r u in your senses
      Ok let me make a verse for you
      "Oh mohd lubis khan , say unto them have some logic , because allah is most gracious "
      Okkkk happy ???
      Now add it in Quraan

    • @mohdlubiskhan7713
      @mohdlubiskhan7713 3 роки тому

      @@Rising_Star922
      Nice try 🤣🤣🤣
      Fail .

    • @Rising_Star922
      @Rising_Star922 3 роки тому

      @@mohdlubiskhan7713 for ur kind information FADI is a muslim scholar before accepting christ
      And arabic his native language

    • @mohdlubiskhan7713
      @mohdlubiskhan7713 3 роки тому

      @@Rising_Star922
      This proof thet he don't know the Qur'an grammar n etymology of his language or a fake claimed.

  • @abdulkariml7284
    @abdulkariml7284 3 роки тому +5

    They desire to extinguish the light of Allâh with (the breath of) their mouths. But Allâh will perfect His light even though the disbelievers consider it hard.

    • @elmundir
      @elmundir 3 роки тому +1

      37 version of quran wow
      As a Mouslim I am shocked

    • @philipkavilae5338
      @philipkavilae5338 3 роки тому

      Let it Evolve and perfect. Let Madina teaching spread, not Meccan war teaching.

  • @goodnbad9199
    @goodnbad9199 4 роки тому +3

    Whenever I see my ex muslim brothers and sisters, I feel more spiritually alive.

    • @jurigcp2447
      @jurigcp2447 4 роки тому

      Same here when i see ex xtian

    • @goodnbad9199
      @goodnbad9199 4 роки тому +1

      @@jurigcp2447 sorry If I hurt your sentiment. Make sure you are happy🤣🤣🤣

    • @jurigcp2447
      @jurigcp2447 4 роки тому

      @@goodnbad9199
      Not hurt at all. Im happy.. Thanks. 🙏

    • @goodnbad9199
      @goodnbad9199 4 роки тому

      @@jurigcp2447 peace

  • @sheifAli
    @sheifAli 4 роки тому

    Why are u people asking about Islam to non Muslims

  • @AFProductionsMedia
    @AFProductionsMedia 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for showing truth

  • @Paulkazey1
    @Paulkazey1 4 роки тому +3

    The idea of an eternal Qur'an is obviously utterly wrong. The claims of inerrancy are lies.

  • @abumutaz8878
    @abumutaz8878 4 роки тому +5

    Get me any arabic text without dots and I will read it for you.

    • @paulcheong4419
      @paulcheong4419 4 роки тому +3

      Recite the wrong Koran - earns no merit
      Recite wrongly - earns no merit
      How to earn Allah's favor???
      Huge problem my Muslim friends!

    • @Rising_Star922
      @Rising_Star922 3 роки тому

      U can read even from blank pages
      Because u r a talking parrot

    • @paulcheong4419
      @paulcheong4419 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rising_Star922 Hi bro Koran 1/2
      Do not deceive your own self
      Don’t be blind to your own self
      Muslims believe that the Koran in their hands is perfect and is the same as the one in Paradise
      Qur'an was revealed in the dialect of Quraish - it has to be writted as such!
      BUT there are so many Korans - which one? Recite the wrong one counts for nothing my friend…all efforts wasted as it is not the Word of Allah.
      33 Different versions of the Arabic Korans - which one?
      • 1.Qaloon 2. Al-Susi (Ibn Katheer) 3. Khallad 4. Idrees 5. Warsh 6. Hafs Ad-Duri (Abu Amro alBasri) 7. Al-Laith 8. al-Bazzi 9. Al-Azraq 10. As-Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Ad-Duri (alKisa’i) 12. Ibn Shanboodh 13. Al-Asbahaani 14. Hisham 15. Isa BinWardan 16. Sulayman 17. al-Bazzi 18. Ibn Dhakwan 19. Ibn Jammaz 20. Ahmad bin Farah 21. Qunbul 22. Showba 23. Ruwais 24. Shujaa’ bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi 25. Abu Amro Al-Ala 26. Hafs 27. Ruh 28. Al-Duri (alHasan alBasri) 29. Hafs Al-Duri (Ibn Katheer) 30. Khalf 31. Ishaq 32. Al-Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’i33. Abu Farah Al-Shan-budhi
      • The predominant reading today, spread by Egyptian Quran readers, is that of Asim in the transmission of Hafs (d. 190/805). In Morocco, the reading is that of Nafi` in the transmission of Warsh (d. 197/812) and the Moroccan Qurans are written accordingly. In Sudan, Nigeria and Central Africa, the prevailing reading is that of Abu `Amr in the version of al-Duri. The transmissions of Hafs, Warsh, Qalun and Al-Duri are still in print today.
      • There are 7 Hafs - which one?
      1936 - The government of Egypt realized how efficient the Cairene model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans in Egyptian schools
      This was known as the ‘Faruq Edition’, named after King Faruq, who came to power that year.
      1985 - The government of Saudi Arabia realized how efficient the Egyptian model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans worldwide
      This was known as the ‘Fahd Edition’, named after King Fahd, who came to power in 1982. Both are man’s expediency.
      • The Qira’at Qur’ans had nothing to do with any original Mushafs, but had everything to do with recitations ua-cam.com/video/iHkiuzrwvnU/v-deo.html
      Different readings - so how? Which Koran?
      surah 5:54 (yartadda) surah 5:54 (yartadid)
      surah 91:15 (wa la yakhaafu) surah 91:15 (fa la yakhaafu)
      surah 3:133 (wasaari'uu) surah 3:133 (saari'uu)
      surah 2:132 (wawassaa) surah 2:132 (wa'awsaa)
      surah 2:140 (taquluna) surah 2:140 (yaquluna)
      surah 2:259 (nunshizuhaa) surah 2:259 (nunshiruhaa)
      surah 3:81 (ataytukum) surah 3:81 (ataynakum)
      surah 2:132 (himu) surah 2:132 (hiimu)
      surah 2:214 (yaquula) surah 2:214 (yaquulu) submission.org/verify_are_all_Arabic_versions_of_Quran_the_same.html
      FABRICATIONS by Muhammad -We wonder what other fabrications are not taken out??? And what other Satanic verses???
      Eager to be accepted as a prophet in his native Mecca, Muhammad initially conceded that Allah approved of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat. But unable to reconcile three extra goddesses with his declared monotheism, Muhammad later reversed himself, confessing, "I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken." (Al Tabari, The History of Al-Tabari, vol. 6, p.111) and said he had mistaken the words of "Satan" (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, pp.165-166) as Allah's. www.billionbibles.org/sharia/muhammad-false-prophet.html
      Man’s word became Word of Allah
      Sahih Bukhari 6:60:313 Narrated Umar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Good and bad persons enter upon you, so I suggest that you order the mothers of the Believers (i.e. your wives) to observe veils."
      Then Allah revealed the Verses of Al-Hijab.
      Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat?
      [Narrated 'Aisha] "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
      Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. p. 269; Sunan Ibn Majah, p. 626; Ibn Qutaybah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo: Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) p. 310; As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. p. 13
      Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
      Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400: Narrated by Aisha :
      Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.
      Satan inputs into Koran
      S22:52 Sahih International
      And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.
      53 [That is] so He may make what Satan throws in a trial for those within whose hearts is disease and those hard of heart. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in extreme dissension.
      • Satan will cause problem with recitations/inputs for the Koran
      • Allah will accept them to the point of what Satan threw in
      • Allah said He will abolish them v52 but in v53 Allah will use them and throws in a trial.
      • This means they are still in the Koran.
      • But Allah never state categorically which verses are corrected
      • You will forever be in doubt.
      • v53 Allah is saying he will take what Satan threw in the mouth of Muhd as Koran!
      • Muhd himself was reciting the Koran of Satan!
      • Satan’s Koran is equivalent to Allah’s
      • Muslims must recite them to earn merits!!! Compounding the problem.

    • @paulcheong4419
      @paulcheong4419 3 роки тому

      @@Rising_Star922 Hi bro Koran 2/2
      Do not deceive your own self
      Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
      Sahih Bukhari 6, Book 61, Number 558 : Narrated by Aisha
      Allah's Apostle heard a man reciting the Qur'an at night, and said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget."
      Qur'an was revealed in the dialect of Quraish - what versions you have?
      Sahih Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510: Narrated by Anas bin Malik
      'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue."
      Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha
      This also mean all the revelations while married to Khadija are false/lies
      Volume 3, Book 47, Number 755:
      Narrated by 'Urwa from 'Aisha... They said to her, "Talk to him till he gives you a reply." When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, "Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds (dress) except that of Aisha." On that Um Salama said, "I repent to Allah for hurting you." …
      A huge portion of quran no one understands except Allah - what is the purpose? not even Muhammad!
      S 3:7 Pickthall: He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it.
      None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed.
      Muslims required to read/recite
      Sahih Bukhari Volume 001, Book 001, Hadith Number 003.
      Narrated By 'Aisha: … The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read."
      The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.'
      Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more.
      He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?'
      Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read!
      Surah 96:1
      Muhsin Khan: Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists),
      Pickthall: Read: In the name of thy Lord Who createth,
      Yusuf Ali: Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-
      Shakir: Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
      Dr. Ghali: Read: In the Name of your Lord Who created,
      Sahih International: Recite in the name of your Lord who created -
      Surah: 96:3
      Muhsin Khan: Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,
      Pickthall: Read: And thy Lord is the Most Bounteous,
      Yusuf Ali: Proclaim! (or read!) And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,-
      Shakir: Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
      Dr. Ghali:Read: And your Lord is The Most Honorable,
      Sahih International: Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous -
      If it is in other Arabic, it is man’s discretion and NOT the Word of Allah!!!
      Totally useless.
      If you insist, then good luck to you.
      You see the differences? So, what now?
      • Muslims required to read/recite
      • Read/Recite wrong Koran scores no merit.
      • Read/Recite wrongly scores no merit.
      • Wrong pronunciation scores no merit
      • Fabrications
      • Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat? Missed chance!
      • Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
      • Man’s word became Word of Allah
      • Satan inputs into Koran
      • Recite the Satanic verses
      • It has to be in the dialect of Quraish as revealed, otherwise it is man’s discretion not Allah’s.
      • Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha This also mean all the revelations while married to Khadija are false/lies
      • Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
      • A huge portion of quran no one understands except allah
      • It has to be perfect as Koran is allegedly perfect.
      HUGE problems. So Many Holes
      Jesus loves and wants to save you and your family
      Make sure you and your family don’t’ spend eternity in Hell with Satan
      We only have this one life to make sure.
      Please copy to somewhere permanent for your future reference as well.

    • @paulcheong4419
      @paulcheong4419 3 роки тому

      @@Rising_Star922 hi bro Rising Star Faisal
      DEFEND YOUR ALLAH
      ALLAH (HIM/HIS - BIG CAP) DOES NOT LIKE TO HAVE FEMALE CHILDREN - ALLAH HAS 3 DAUGHTERS
      1. Allah complains that it is unfair for Himself to have only daughters and no son.
      2. Complains that it is unfair for the Arabs to have sons.
      3. Complains that the Arabs are more blessed than Himself.
      53:19 - 22 Sahih International
      So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?
      And Manat, the third - the other one?
      Is the male for you and for Him the female?
      That, then, is an unjust division.
      53:19 - 22 Yusuf Ali
      Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,
      And another, the third (goddess), Manat?
      What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
      Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!
      53:19 - 22 Pickthall
      Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza
      And Manat, the third, the other?
      Are yours the males and His the females?
      That indeed were an unfair division!
      ALLAH HAS ONLY 1 LEG (SHIN - SINGULAR)
      Surah 68:42 Sahih International
      The Day the shin will be uncovered and they are invited to prostration but the disbelievers will not be able,
      ALLAH HAS 2 RIGHT HANDS - ONLY SATAN USES LEFT HAND AND ALLAH CANNOT HAVE LEFT HAND - see below also.
      49The Book of the Etiquette of Judges
      It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
      The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands." sunnah.com/nasai/49/1
      Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 In-book reference : Book 49, Hadith 1 English translation : Vol. 6, Book 49, Hadith 5381
      Q: I have heard a seeker of knowledge while speaking about Allah's Names and Attributes to have attributed to Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) the description of having two Hands.
      He also added the description: Both Hand sides of His are right.
      What is meant by this statement? Please, provide evidence.
      www.al-feqh.com/en/establishing-two-hands-for-allah
      A: … For example, `Abdullah ibn `Amr ibn Al-`As (may Allah be pleased with both of them) is authentically reported to have reported the Prophet (peace be upon him) as saying: The just will be with Allah on pulpits of light on the right Hand of the Most Merciful (the Exalted and Glorified), and both His Hands are right - those who are just in their judgment and are fair with their families and those of whom they are in charge.
      … Below is an explanation of the statement: Both Hand sides of His are right. It is reported by Al-Baghawy from Al-Khattaby (may Allah be merciful with both of them) that such an Attribute is included under Tawqif (a religious text and not personal opinion).
      Therefore, we understand it in the literal sense without drawing any comparison stopping our minds where the Qur'an and authentically narrated Hadith stop them. Such is the belief of Ahl-ul-Sunnah wal-Jama`ah. Some scholars are of the view that "and both His Hands are right" means that they are equally meritorious even if one of them is called the left Hand as stated in the Hadith recorded on the authority of Ibn `Umar in Sahih Muslim
      SATAN EATS WITH LEFT HAND SO DO NOT EAT WITH YOUR LEFT HAND - left-handed people you are in big trouble!
      Sahih Muslim Book 023, Hadith Number 5007.
      Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: Do not eat with your left hand, for the Satan eats with his left hand.
      ALLAH HAS A FACE
      55:27 Sahih And there will remain the Face of your Lord, Owner of Majesty and Honor.
      Yusuf Ali But will abide (for ever) the Face of thy Lord,- full of Majesty, Bounty and Honour.
      Jesus loves and wants to save you and your family
      Make sure you and your family don’t’ spend eternity in Hell with Satan
      We only have this one life to make sure.
      Please copy to somewhere permanent for your future reference as well.

  • @waqasaslamcheema3211
    @waqasaslamcheema3211 3 роки тому

    These two people are talking nonsense. They even don't know that Quranic way of recitation is not preserved due to written text, its a secondary way of preservation. Primarily, Quran is preserved by memorization (Hifz) , there are hundred of thousands Muslims who are memorizing this Quran since the time of Prophet PBUH. So if you take all of Quranic written texts from the world today, Muslim can still reproduce the same Quran in written form in days. For the sake of argument, these guys are saying that there exists 30 different Quran, why don't the show us different Quran a different recitation from present , because if there were 30 different Quranic recitations at least one of them should have survived today?

  • @ThethomasJefferson
    @ThethomasJefferson Рік тому

    Why does no one do written articles anymore?

  • @faithoverfear6263
    @faithoverfear6263 5 років тому +3

    It's always hardest when someone asks you to explain your native language "Oi vey"

  • @juerbert1
    @juerbert1 4 роки тому +3

    Both excellent men of GOD !

    • @bramjam2314
      @bramjam2314 2 роки тому

      Don't be fooled. Those two are not even muslims. They're trying to find fault in the Quran. Your being deceived

    • @bramjam2314
      @bramjam2314 2 роки тому +1

      Unless your in on it too

    • @juerbert1
      @juerbert1 2 роки тому

      @@bramjam2314 ,
      so, you cannot be deceived ?🦄

    • @bramjam2314
      @bramjam2314 2 роки тому

      @@juerbert1 no. Thank Allah

  • @spreadtheword2066
    @spreadtheword2066 Рік тому

    9:48 The problem with this video is you are forgetting that the quran was also memorized so the people never had a problem with the dots. The dots were only there for the non arabs.

    • @electro639
      @electro639 Рік тому +1

      You're very wrong. The memorization failed long ago. In Sahih al-Bukhari, Hudhaifa is desperate because Iraqis and Syrians have different readings. Only Hafsa's book saved them that year.
      Nowadays there are 37 different Qurans. So, it's ALL SCREWED.

    • @electro639
      @electro639 Рік тому

      By the way, the 7 ahruf nowadays were fabricated 250 after Muhammad's death. The scholar who made it all up was Abu Balr ibn Mujahid.
      You have artificial Qurans.

  • @rashrick1
    @rashrick1 5 років тому +2

    there is only ONE version of the Quran, writing in Arabic only, the style of early writing does NOT change the meaning nor the contents , unlike the "bible", it was writing in Greek , Hebrew, Aramaic ,then translated to Latin , English and so on , the catholic bible contains 33 books, while king James 27 ,the Armenian and Coptic 34..!! they differ in many ways , from meanings and believe to the contents, hell , they don't even agree on the actual date of "Christmas" some in December, and others on January..!! so , try harder next time, that was really stupid...!!

    • @neluroman555
      @neluroman555 5 років тому

      Your Quran, the most popular one, is a recitation, Hafs recitation. It has at base no any manuscript. Why? Because there is no any reliable ancient Quranic manuscript, no any. So that, to say that an oral tradition that started 200 years after Muhammad- Hafs lived 200 years after Muhammad- is something reliable, is just bla, blah, blah of two pennies, Islamic propaganda no more no less .

    • @rashrick1
      @rashrick1 5 років тому +1

      there is NO such thing called "the most popular one"..!! there is only "ONE" and many of the early Muslims and companions memorized and recited it during the life of the prophet and started to write it down, and the collecting started with the first caliph Abu Bakr after the prophet death and continued with the second caliph Omar and got completed by the third caliph Othman, in less than 10 years total , and the 200 yrs you mentioned is wrong it's 300 yrs, that's the time it took to collect and "filter" the "desired" Roman "bible", I think you got mixed up a little..!! sorry for you..!! @@neluroman555

    • @neluroman555
      @neluroman555 5 років тому

      @@rashrick1 you must be very ignorant or you try to fool me directly in face. Abu Bakr collected some kind of Quran and handed it over to Hafsa, and she put it under her bed for the next 20 years, until when Calif Uthman had a team of scribes who edited the Quran. That was in 652. Your Muhammad died in 632. A simple arithmetical calculation shows us a gap of 20 years between Muhammad's death and the first Quran. More than that, no Quran from Uthman survived until today, no one. The Quran you read today( the most popular one) is a compilation of a recitation, Hafs recitation. Hafs didn't know Muhammad as he lived 200 years after Muhammad. There is no complete Quran manuscript within 200 years after Muhammad. Hafs Quran is not the only Quran actually in existence. There are many, many others like Warsh Quran, Duri Quran and so on, so on. Hafs Quran was edited only in 1924, and as I said: it is a compilation after a recitation. Where are the ancient Quranic manuscripts? Where? Bible has a few hundreds of such manuscripts prior to the IV century, and thousands before the sixth century. But your Quran has only a recitation, Hafs recitation.
      Where are Uthman Manuscripts? Where Abu Bakr manuscripts? Where?
      You are a victim of the Islamic propaganda, sincerely. The Islam is not as you know it, you have lied to for years.

  • @jayabdih1
    @jayabdih1 4 роки тому +3

    With this video, Jay Smith exposed his own weakness and stupidity in accessing the autenticity of the Quran. He tried very hard to prove the Quran is not preserved properly but he failed terribbly and risk his intelligent weakness exposed to the attention of the whole world.

  • @MohamedAhmed-yi1yf
    @MohamedAhmed-yi1yf 5 років тому +5

    Quran is the word of Allah (God) no mistake no alter miliions memorized So dont waste your time to on the quran instead that go and find other opportunities on the nearest church to correct and corrupted your book

    • @Cruz8R
      @Cruz8R 5 років тому +6

      Except Uthman burning 🔥 it and a goat 🐐 eating it 😋.

    • @neluroman555
      @neluroman555 5 років тому +4

      Quran is not God's words, it is just a bunch of Christian, Jewish and Pagan folklore Muhammad heard during his wanderings through desert and which he then claimed to be divine revelation. Never ever Muhammad and someone after him have been able to prove that the Quran is anything else that fairy tales.

    • @hoopoe3093
      @hoopoe3093 5 років тому +1

      Click evilbible.com

    • @qadamkherqadamkher3114
      @qadamkherqadamkher3114 5 років тому

      كلامك صح قران كلام الله اكبر اللذى هو اسم من اسماء الشيطان لذلك بكل اللغات العالم لايترجم ومحمد رسول الشيطان انا كنت مسلمه و دراسه الاسلام وامنت بالرب يسوع وحررنى من العبوديه الابليس اقرا كتاب شمس المعارف عباره عن ايات من القران وطلاسم السحريه وهذا يثبت ان الايات كلام الشيطان

    • @deepakkumarsingh2567
      @deepakkumarsingh2567 4 роки тому +2

      Quran is bogus book human creation. Allah can't call himself "he" or "himself" in many verses. It's someone else addressing in the name of allah that man is creator of quran..

  • @friedpickles342
    @friedpickles342 2 роки тому +1

    Hatun from Turkey. .And ex Muslim. . Jeeee.. that doesn't surprise me. . Is turkey still denying the Armenian Genocide?

    • @goodthoughts9734
      @goodthoughts9734 2 роки тому

      Brother i just want to khow for clearificatiom that ever al fadi says that quran has 50 different virsion or made any video with title 50 different types of quran ???
      Please help me I really want this information

    • @electro639
      @electro639 Рік тому +1

      Fried Pickles, stop supporting Muhammad's ped ophilia.

    • @friedpickles342
      @friedpickles342 Рік тому

      @@goodthoughts9734 no

  • @isfaqulhussain6078
    @isfaqulhussain6078 4 роки тому +1

    Why the non-believers trying to find fault in the Quran, instead of their own manuscripts. What the present day Quran (according to them) teaches us, which is believed by billions of Muslims, even their fellow Christians are embracing Islam in large numbers today? Are they afraid of that?

    • @henktmmr
      @henktmmr 4 роки тому

      Copying from the Holy Bible is dangerous. As you can see today what happens when you try to deceive people with the false religion islam.
      Stop your false teachings and quoting the Bible.