There is only one distance to zero a speed scope with the elevation and windage. That distance is at the center of the lens optics, usually where the crosshairs are centered. That is the only point on scope that is not affected when the speed dial is changed (speed dial is actually magnification adjustment of image behind the yardage markers on scope). After this point is zeroed (by shooting and adjusting windage and elevation), pick another yardage marker on scope that is not too close to the center-of-scope yardage marker. Shoot again while adjusting only the speed dial to get this marker dead-on. Remember that the speed dial does not change the first marker setting. Now you have two dead-on yardage markers. The rest will be real close by design.
I dont care for what professionals say, for the fact that they were where your at many years ago. your instruction and new experience of how to zero in a Speed Scope is PERFECT. I can relate to your tips on setting. Your videos have helped me, as im sure many others. thanks again. Keep it up man, your Awesome.
Kudos on the tip there Sir.......You did everything correctly by doing, what we old school archers do for our own bows. The “ walk back “ method is by far, a sure way of getting true results for any one particular bow because of the variations in arrow speed that it shoots, ( give or take, + or - the FPS ) I did it with my PSE Fang, and it’s dead on at every DOT 😎🙏🏹🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍 Thanks for sharing.
Excal spd ring scope has to be sighted in at 20yrds(main crosshairs) (dead perfect). THen you confirm that at 30. If its on at 30 try other yardage. If the other points are consistently high or low then adjust the spd ring slightly. Arrows hit high increase spd, low decrease spd. THese minor speed adjustments wont matter or affect the main 20yrd zero enough to hardly notice.I say this because my scope is 1click=1/2" at 20yrds. But at longer distances it can be considerable.
Thanks alot my wife got me the excalibur G340 for Christmas last year and I'm about to start sighting it in. I had no idea how the FPS needs to be set so I'll try your advice first and go from there!!
Your welcome bubba.. thanks for watching.. for example just bc your bow may say it shoots 350 don't set it at 350 come down just alittle maybe to around 335... And start there.. shoot your 1 line at 20yrdd once it's dead on there then move target out to 30yrds and use 2nd line in the scope. This is when you'll have to make little adjustments till you find your mark..
No. You need to sight it in on one distance (say 20 yards) and then test at a DIFFERENT distance (say 30 yards), and adjust the speed setting so that it still shoots on target on your second distance (30 yards in this example).
That goes against what Excalibur told me, I haven't had a chance to site in yet, but they told me to site in at 20yrds with the turrets, then move back to 40yrds and use the speed ring to site in 40, they said that's all there is to it, well see I guess.
With this kind of scope Before you have to sight it at 20 yards Then go at 30 yards don't move nothing to sight it if you not hit on the center of your target The only thing you have to setup is the speed on your crossbow We can say your crossbow is 370 Try setup it at 350 then see where it hit If it not hit the right place then put little more speed like 355 but pay attention It maybe need little more speed or less Just remember when you go try at 30 yards you need to sight on the second line Each line below the top line or point is 10 yards Good luck!
Exactly. The only thing that needs to be touched after a 20yard zero is the speed ring. If your low at 40 yards lower the speed till your on and then you know the true speed of your crossbow. I did it the wrong way at first like this guys is doing and then saw a excalibur video and bam easy pleasy.
cyocaller hey bubba I'm new to these speed scope hopefully I explain,it right and correctly.... I was having a hard,time figuring this scope out... But preet much got it now I think... 40yrds is the farthest I would ever think about shooting I'm,more into 20 n 30 yrd shots
If you have a variable power crossbow scope can you adjust the magnification without affecting the accuracy? I ask this because certain scopes ask you to sight in with a certain magnification level.
Here's an excellent idea..... how about going by the paperwork that came with the scope.....hmmmmm...that should work, huh? With the Excalibur Scopes that are speed rated you sight the main crosshair (at 20 yards) DEAD ON. Then you turn your speed dial to the approximate speed of the bow you're shooting which will depend on your arrow weight. After that move your target to 40 yards. Fire one arrow at the bullseye using your 40 yard reticle. If it hits where you aim your scope is calibrated to your bow and speed. If it doesn't hit where it's aimed put the bow in a solid rest and WITHOUT moving the crossbow aim at the bullseye with your 40-yard reticle and adjust the speed dial up or down until the 40 yard reticle covers the arrow you just shot. Then you're DONE. The scope is calibrated to the speed of the bow and arrow combination. One thing you must keep a close eye on is your brace height setting on the recurve crossbows. Make sure the brace height is set within factory specs before you sight in. After you get the scope sighted in make sure you stay at that braceheight setting. If the string stretches it will change that brace height and then your scope settings will be off
I’ve got a vengeance reverse limb and replaced the scope with a Excalibur tactzone. Excalibur says if you zero @ 20 yards that you should be able to move the target to 30,40 &50 and use the dots in scope without having to make any adjustments. I zeroed at 20 yards dead on. Moved bag to 30 yards and the 30yrd dot was dead on. Moved to 40 yards and am hitting 6” low. Move back to 30 and dead on. Manufacture says vengeance shoots 365FPS. I have the speed ring set at 365 as well. Thoughts? Should I buy a chronograph and see what FPS I’m really shooting? Does this sound like a speed ring problem?
He looks like randy ortan from wwe ...side view of his face lol ...but speed dail scope i have shots 2 inches high at 20 yards 1 inch high at 30 dead on at 40 yards only farest i shot is 40 yards so i just have to aim lil low at closer ranges but its all good
I sighted mine in at 20 (top of little triangle) then shot dead on at 30 (bottom of little triangle) but I'm shooting about 6" low at 40. And moved the speed ring down about 40 fps but it's not really bringing the bolt up. What am I doing wrong
1st line should be set at 20yrds. Shoot till it's hitting bullseye... Then put target out to 30yrds and sight in 2nd line at 30yrds... After that then move target back to 40yrds.. that's when you play with the speed dial till it's close as possible.. I found out mine wasn't 100% dead on but within a 2in grouping.. after you are on bullseye with the 20yrd (1st line) and then 30yrds(2nd line) it should be just adjusting the speed dial for 40 yrds...
Before you have to sight it at 20 yards Then go at 30 yards don't move nothing to sight it if you not hit on the center The only thing you have to setup is the speed on your crossbow We can say your crossbow is 370 Try setup it at 350 then see where it hit If it not hit the right place then put little more speed like 355 but pay attention It maybe need little more speed or less Just remember when you go try at 30 yards you need to sight on the second line Each line below the top line or point is 10 yards Good luck!
Did you adust the elevation to bring it up at 30? I'm having same problem. I zeroed in at 20 and no matter where the speed dial is I I'm 2-3" low. After zeroed in at 30 how did you adust the dial?
I zeroed 1st line in at 20 then went out to 30 n zeroed the 2nd line in.. that's when playing with the speed dial is gonna come into place.. no more adjusting is needed when zeroed in at 30 it's just playing with that speed dial from then on... If your bow says it shoots 350 then you wanna come down off that some day adjust the speed scope down to 335-340 n see where it's at... Once u site in at 20 with the 1st line then move out to 30 with the 2nd line after zeroed in 2nd line at 30 it's just playing with speed dial after that... Also shoot same bolt when doing this.. not different ones... Not all bolts we buy are good something I've learned along the way.. so you just wanna make sure u shoot the same bolt on all you shots.. then after you get it figured out and zeroed in then start shoot all your bolts, then you'll see what bolts are flying different n you'll no not to use them bc if you have bad bolts while trying to zero your scope in your gonna think it's you when it's not it's the bolts so just find you a bolt that shoots good and only use that bolt...
Isn't that your power selection 🤔 Those are just numbers on there. Should be 2 different selections Usually you push that ring forward and adjust for speed.
My wife calls my crossbow “man’s toy”. Yours looks great. You will never want to hunt with nothing else!! At least I don’t. Everything is up front and personal, if u know wat I mean. We only have about 75 more days till Maryland’s opening morning. I can’t wait 🦌🦌🦌🦌
Danny Starliper actually I'm loving,this bow. Its shooting,just like I want it to... However I dont c Y people shoot pass 40yrds with crossbows. Like 40yrds is pretty far... But I'm new to,these kind,of scope so hopefully I explain my video well. My wife says that thing looks like a toy... We have about 45 more day.. Were gettin close... Hey bubba do,you record your hunts
Yee Haw27 wow your season is right around the corner. Think about this... 40yrds in da woods is a far shot for anyone. Trees and branches in da line of fire. Last year my farthest shot was about 30yrds. You are going to love hunting with your crossbow. Watch wat I say. Later on this year your going to say so😂👍🦌🦌
Danny Starliper O I enjoy it now. It just shoots the arrows so true.. Like the consistency with shooting,the bolts is crazy.. I cant wait to c what it does in the woods... I was thinking about getting a ligthed nock for it just for my slow mo shots on video but I want a flat lighted nock n not a half moon one... I'm sure ill fall in love with it even more.. I look forward to beinging y'all,some crossbow hunts this year...
Danny Starliper I hear ya... I was just telling my wife about upgrading my cam corder... Imma stay with a cannon but u dont have to buy a high dollar one like people think u do...
There is only one distance to zero a speed scope with the elevation and windage. That distance is at the center of the lens optics, usually where the crosshairs are centered. That is the only point on scope that is not affected when the speed dial is changed (speed dial is actually magnification adjustment of image behind the yardage markers on scope). After this point is zeroed (by shooting and adjusting windage and elevation), pick another yardage marker on scope that is not too close to the center-of-scope yardage marker. Shoot again while adjusting only the speed dial to get this marker dead-on. Remember that the speed dial does not change the first marker setting. Now you have two dead-on yardage markers. The rest will be real close by design.
I dont care for what professionals say, for the fact that they were where your at many years ago. your instruction and new experience of how to zero in a Speed Scope is PERFECT. I can relate to your tips on setting. Your videos have helped me, as im sure many others. thanks again. Keep it up man, your Awesome.
Thank you sir. Picked up the Viper R10, this upload was greatly appreciated.
Kudos on the tip there Sir.......You did everything correctly by doing, what we old school archers do for our own bows. The “ walk back “ method is by far, a sure way of getting true results for any one particular bow because of the variations in arrow speed that it shoots, ( give or take, + or - the FPS ) I did it with my PSE Fang, and it’s dead on at every DOT 😎🙏🏹🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍 Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man it weirded me out too but it hits fine at practical ranges and takes out some guess work if you can use the second mark at 20 and 30 yards
Excal spd ring scope has to be sighted in at 20yrds(main crosshairs) (dead perfect). THen you confirm that at 30. If its on at 30 try other yardage. If the other points are consistently high or low then adjust the spd ring slightly. Arrows hit high increase spd, low decrease spd. THese minor speed adjustments wont matter or affect the main 20yrd zero enough to hardly notice.I say this because my scope is 1click=1/2" at 20yrds. But at longer distances it can be considerable.
Thanks alot my wife got me the excalibur G340 for Christmas last year and I'm about to start sighting it in. I had no idea how the FPS needs to be set so I'll try your advice first and go from there!!
Your welcome bubba.. thanks for watching.. for example just bc your bow may say it shoots 350 don't set it at 350 come down just alittle maybe to around 335... And start there.. shoot your 1 line at 20yrdd once it's dead on there then move target out to 30yrds and use 2nd line in the scope. This is when you'll have to make little adjustments till you find your mark..
Great explanation. Thanks.
Thank you for this instructional vid! What type of scope would you recommend for the centerpoint archery dagger 390? Thank you again sir!
Thank you! I’m new to speed scope. I’m getting a PSE Fang set up.
I loved my pse fang nice compact bow killed a buck the first time I took it out on opening day
No. You need to sight it in on one distance (say 20 yards) and then test at a DIFFERENT distance (say 30 yards), and adjust the speed setting so that it still shoots on target on your second distance (30 yards in this example).
Thanks for sharing i was having the same problem
I have to sight in my scope as well and it has a speed scope on it. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you Sir.
Experience is the best teacher indeed.
Thank you for the help brother!
That's exactly what Excalibur told me to do , so that's how I'll do it
Very helpful. Thank you sir. God blesd
That goes against what Excalibur told me, I haven't had a chance to site in yet, but they told me to site in at 20yrds with the turrets, then move back to 40yrds and use the speed ring to site in 40, they said that's all there is to it, well see I guess.
Thanks man.... had the same issue! Cheers. Happy hunting
Great Video
With this kind of scope
Before you have to sight it at 20 yards
Then go at 30 yards don't move nothing to sight it if you not hit on the center of your target
The only thing you have to setup is the speed on your crossbow
We can say your crossbow is 370
Try setup it at 350 then see where it hit
If it not hit the right place then put little more speed like 355 but pay attention
It maybe need little more speed or less
Just remember when you go try at 30 yards you need to sight on the second line
Each line below the top line or point is 10 yards
Good luck!
Exactly. The only thing that needs to be touched after a 20yard zero is the speed ring. If your low at 40 yards lower the speed till your on and then you know the true speed of your crossbow. I did it the wrong way at first like this guys is doing and then saw a excalibur video and bam easy pleasy.
Thanks bub!
You did a fine job don’t you worry about it God bless you I fill the freezer!
You got it , that's pretty much it !
cyocaller hey bubba I'm new to these speed scope hopefully I explain,it right and correctly.... I was having a hard,time figuring this scope out... But preet much got it now I think... 40yrds is the farthest I would ever think about shooting I'm,more into 20 n 30 yrd shots
Thx!!
If you have a variable power crossbow scope can you adjust the magnification without affecting the accuracy? I ask this because certain scopes ask you to sight in with a certain magnification level.
No when you change the magnification the speed change.
@@larsmetzgerr thanks
@@larsmetzgerr why? What would be the point then lol
@@jcbalesk777 just how they are made on this kind of scope
Here's an excellent idea..... how about going by the paperwork that came with the scope.....hmmmmm...that should work, huh?
With the Excalibur Scopes that are speed rated you sight the main crosshair (at 20 yards) DEAD ON.
Then you turn your speed dial to the approximate speed of the bow you're shooting which will depend on your arrow weight.
After that move your target to 40 yards.
Fire one arrow at the bullseye using your 40 yard reticle. If it hits where you aim your scope is calibrated to your bow and speed. If it doesn't hit where it's aimed put the bow in a solid rest and WITHOUT moving the crossbow aim at the bullseye with your 40-yard reticle and adjust the speed dial up or down until the 40 yard reticle covers the arrow you just shot. Then you're DONE. The scope is calibrated to the speed of the bow and arrow combination. One thing you must keep a close eye on is your brace height setting on the recurve crossbows. Make sure the brace height is set within factory specs before you sight in. After you get the scope sighted in make sure you stay at that braceheight setting.
If the string stretches it will change that brace height and then your scope settings will be off
I’ve got a vengeance reverse limb and replaced the scope with a Excalibur tactzone. Excalibur says if you zero @ 20 yards that you should be able to move the target to 30,40 &50 and use the dots in scope without having to make any adjustments. I zeroed at 20 yards dead on. Moved bag to 30 yards and the 30yrd dot was dead on. Moved to 40 yards and am hitting 6” low. Move back to 30 and dead on. Manufacture says vengeance shoots 365FPS. I have the speed ring set at 365 as well. Thoughts? Should I buy a chronograph and see what FPS I’m really shooting? Does this sound like a speed ring problem?
change your speed knob until it moves it where it needs to go
Double check your speed setting. Sounds like something is off
And make sure you’re not using the 30yrd dot at 40. Sounds like user error
He looks like randy ortan from wwe ...side view of his face lol ...but speed dail scope i have shots 2 inches high at 20 yards 1 inch high at 30 dead on at 40 yards only farest i shot is 40 yards so i just have to aim lil low at closer ranges but its all good
Hey Bro, did you ever get the banshee bolt problem fixed or found heavier bolts?
I ended up selling it and buying a Barnett crossbow
@@yeehaw2720 damn bro, I just ordered one because of your videos, guess I gotta sell mine too before I even open the box!
I'm not sure how you are sighting in the 30 yrd dot with the turrets, I thought the turrets only moved the 20yrd dot, no?
I sighted mine in at 20 (top of little triangle) then shot dead on at 30 (bottom of little triangle) but I'm shooting about 6" low at 40. And moved the speed ring down about 40 fps but it's not really bringing the bolt up. What am I doing wrong
1st line should be set at 20yrds. Shoot till it's hitting bullseye...
Then put target out to 30yrds and sight in 2nd line at 30yrds... After that then move target back to 40yrds.. that's when you play with the speed dial till it's close as possible.. I found out mine wasn't 100% dead on but within a 2in grouping.. after you are on bullseye with the 20yrd (1st line) and then 30yrds(2nd line) it should be just adjusting the speed dial for 40 yrds...
@@yeehaw2720 ok good deal thanks man!
Before you have to sight it at 20 yards
Then go at 30 yards don't move nothing to sight it if you not hit on the center
The only thing you have to setup is the speed on your crossbow
We can say your crossbow is 370
Try setup it at 350 then see where it hit
If it not hit the right place then put little more speed like 355 but pay attention
It maybe need little more speed or less
Just remember when you go try at 30 yards you need to sight on the second line
Each line below the top line or point is 10 yards
Good luck!
works on the barnett hypertac 420 👍
Did you adust the elevation to bring it up at 30? I'm having same problem. I zeroed in at 20 and no matter where the speed dial is I I'm 2-3" low. After zeroed in at 30 how did you adust the dial?
I zeroed 1st line in at 20 then went out to 30 n zeroed the 2nd line in.. that's when playing with the speed dial is gonna come into place.. no more adjusting is needed when zeroed in at 30 it's just playing with that speed dial from then on... If your bow says it shoots 350 then you wanna come down off that some day adjust the speed scope down to 335-340 n see where it's at... Once u site in at 20 with the 1st line then move out to 30 with the 2nd line after zeroed in 2nd line at 30 it's just playing with speed dial after that... Also shoot same bolt when doing this.. not different ones... Not all bolts we buy are good something I've learned along the way.. so you just wanna make sure u shoot the same bolt on all you shots.. then after you get it figured out and zeroed in then start shoot all your bolts, then you'll see what bolts are flying different n you'll no not to use them bc if you have bad bolts while trying to zero your scope in your gonna think it's you when it's not it's the bolts so just find you a bolt that shoots good and only use that bolt...
@@yeehaw2720 I know it's an old thread but, you said in the video don't zero at 20yrds, now you are saying you zeroed at 20yrds???????????
Isn't that your power selection 🤔
Those are just numbers on there.
Should be 2 different selections
Usually you push that ring forward and adjust for speed.
My wife calls my crossbow “man’s toy”. Yours looks great. You will never want to hunt with nothing else!! At least I don’t. Everything is up front and personal, if u know wat I mean. We only have about 75 more days till Maryland’s opening morning. I can’t wait 🦌🦌🦌🦌
Danny Starliper actually I'm loving,this bow. Its shooting,just like I want it to... However I dont c Y people shoot pass 40yrds with crossbows. Like 40yrds is pretty far... But I'm new to,these kind,of scope so hopefully I explain my video well. My wife says that thing looks like a toy... We have about 45 more day.. Were gettin close... Hey bubba do,you record your hunts
Yee Haw27 wow your season is right around the corner. Think about this... 40yrds in da woods is a far shot for anyone. Trees and branches in da line of fire. Last year my farthest shot was about 30yrds. You are going to love hunting with your crossbow. Watch wat I say. Later on this year your going to say so😂👍🦌🦌
Yee Haw27 also I’m getting an Apeman camera soon so I’m going to TRY to film some hunts
Danny Starliper O I enjoy it now. It just shoots the arrows so true.. Like the consistency with shooting,the bolts is crazy.. I cant wait to c what it does in the woods... I was thinking about getting a ligthed nock for it just for my slow mo shots on video but I want a flat lighted nock n not a half moon one... I'm sure ill fall in love with it even more.. I look forward to beinging y'all,some crossbow hunts this year...
Danny Starliper I hear ya... I was just telling my wife about upgrading my cam corder... Imma stay with a cannon but u dont have to buy a high dollar one like people think u do...
I need 3 cups of coffee to even keep track of what you're saying?.
I agree, he says in the video don't zero at 20yrds, then in one of his replies to someone he says he zeroed in at 20yrds.