Subscriptions are great for being introduced to things. Then, I feel, it's really important to buy physical versions of the things you love if you don't want to lose access to them.
I discovered you guys just a couple of months back and how I wish more people watched you. Tbh, I do consider the books on your bookshelves as recommendations 😬
next book review will be Anthony Ryan - Waking Fire, it's missing from the shelf so Austin is probably reading it now (I would like Austin to read Rage of Dragons now that he's read Red Rising and get his opinion of it because I just read it)
I started Way of Kings. I don't know if it's for me, but I'm enjoying Kaladin pov. I think my main issue so far is I'm a standard novel length into the book and not much has happened. But I'm keeping an open mind till the end
Way of kings definitely is a lot less plot heavy. Even though i enjoyed it regardless of that, i can understand why people may not like it. I would say stick at it and from words of radiance onwards it gets much better!
it took me about 200 pages to really understand what was going on, but after that it was just awesome the rest of the way. I actually found a like-new hardcover of it at a library book sale Saturday for $1 PLUS the same for Mistborn, I couldn't believe it.
This video was so interesting! So many awesome topics, loved hearing your guys thoughts :) Very excited to see what the future has in hold for you guys with your future plans in the industry! I really can't wait for you to read Yumi and The Nightmare Painter because it brings up some of these ideas in the story and ofc Brano Sando delievres the message beautifully
In my country we have several big audiobook companies that offer their entire catalog with unlimited listening time for $5-6 per month. Probably terrible for authors. In our case, having real competition in the audiobook space is a problem. One company started offering a month of unlimited listening for the price of 1-2 audiobooks and all the others just had to match this offer.
Similar here, just a bit higher price. Some 15-20 euros for the unlimited. The service providers have catalogues ranging from about 250k to 500k audiobooks. But the competition with the return offers is insane. You get deals from 0,1 € to 1€ for a period of 1 to 3 months if you resume your subscription. This allows the customers to get through the year by paying just a handful of euros if they are willing to juggle two to three service providers. Definitely a reminder for an aspiring writer, like me, to just do what I do because I like it and not in hopes of making any money from it.
in spain audible, storytel, nextory etc u dont pay for a credit or a book, u pay around 10 euros (sometimes even 5) and u can listen all the books u want without a limit for that month. that said authors like sanderson or the latest popular books are not included and u have to pay for the book.
So I came back after a meeting and you guys got into AI. I'm a programmer who dabbles in writing. I can tell you with 99% certainty that books will not be written by AI in the foreseeable future. AI can't even write code that isn't just generic StackOverflow-like boilerplate. Wrting a novel will be one of the last fronteers of AI. Characters have to have internal monologues, interact with the world, the plot, etc. It's insane to think AI (glorified statistical analysis) doing anything like that without massive leaps in tech. It's so overhyped right now
@@2ToRamble There's so much else that will be replaced before novels that we'll see it coming a billion miles away. I'm not even sure you could call it AI at that point. It would just be inteligiece. The difference between story telling and other types of art, such as painting, is a novel is more than aesthetics. It's more than plot points. It's a all that plus a view into how someone experiences the world. It's just us being human in a more exciting circumstance. What's more likely is writers will use it to generate descriptions, or adjust style, something along those lines. I've tried using chatgpt to create little pieces of writing to use, but so far I didn't like it. Even generated paragraph seems useless
I saw Defiant on your shelf. I'm making a TTRPG and a spell inspired by a defensive thing Spin did towards the end of the book (specific enough for people that know to know what I'm talking about but vague enough to avoid spoilers)
There is a point on which I disagree with both your points of view and that is the reason why there are so many subgenres in literature (or in whatever, like in heavy metal music, for instance). The main reason is not marketing. The main reason is psychology, how human brain works. The need to categorize, to classify, to put thing in mental boxes is inherent to the human experience. Aristotle already did it, way before marketing was a "science". It's the reason why Tier lists and top 10 or 20 or infinite (the lowest form of classification) have so much success. And it's the reason why marketing uses it as a tool. And with this tendency in our psychology comes the Russian doll effect in that all boxes contain other smaller boxes, which themselves contain even smaller boxes, and so on until every individual thing has its own box. What marketing does is say "hey, this thing in its own box is inside a slightly bigger box that contain those other things that you might like too, come buy it". Also I don't like using the word AI for ChatGPT and things like that because, to me that isn't what real AI is supposed to be. Those algorithms only imitate (with good to amazing accuracy) what they absorb as data but are incapable of genuine, original thought, which a true AI would/should do. What we have for now are basically very good monkeys in that regard. But, I think that my main issue with calling those algorithms "AI" as to do with the world "Intelligence". I'm French/Portuguese, and in those languages "intelligence" refers almost exclusively to the ability to produce thoughts (what algorithms don't do), whereas in English "intelligence" can and often means "data".
Love your guys’ stuff, thank you for giving me something to listen to while I manage the shit show I run at home Also was the author you were talking about doing skits and stuff named Alex Aster, author of Lightlark ?
The free 15 hours on Spotify may be good for listening to the first chapter or two of a book before they decide to pay the price of the book in general. Though granted, if you were. Trying to listen to a chapter of a Brandon Sanderson book, you would consume most of those free hours. 😂
Awesome to hear you're a chess fan Austin! I started learning how to play chess around the time the Queens Gambit series came out and have been obsessed with it ever since (still not very good...) How long have you been playing? Have you ever played an over the board tournament? Thanks again for the content guys!
Hey!! Oh yes - my dad taught me when I was 3 - I played in over the board tournaments growing up, but now play casually. Im looking to join another tournament for fun (not as good as i was) but it’s one of my favorite board games! Love all board games in general. Have you/will you ever play in a tournament?
@2ToRamble I wish I'd learnt when I was a kid! I feel like learning as an adult makes things a bit harder... and I don't think I'll ever play seriously over the board, just having fun playing casually online! If you ever do end up playing in a tournament again in the future, I'd love to hear a mini Easter egg update about it in a future podcast ;)
Oh I'll be sure to mention it if I do! And yes I feel the same way with languages -- wish I learned more as a kid, now it's much harder to pick up as an adult -- totally get what you mean@@Birdshowace
You guys should do a book review on Empire of Silence. It is very similar to Red Rising. It has an expansive universe with different races and a lot of political intrigue.
Our patrons picked that for our next book of the month! We’re reading that and discussing at the end of the month with them as we speak - will have a podcast on it for sure
45:00 This got me thinking about how the increasing parasocial and aesthetic aspect of reading culture does combat against the negative effects of AI. Despite it arguably being a superficial phenomena, the whole idea of books selling more depending on the appearance and charisma of the author on social media could be a necessary "lesser evil" that negates the sterilisation of the art form, and art itself, by AI interruption.
I'm a professional freelance editor. I saw my career vanish almost overnight with the pandemic and the dawn of AI. I used to make a passable living as a proofreader. The pandemic hit and my client load plummeted by about half. When AI hit, I lost about two thirds of what was left. I struggle to make a couple hundred dollars a week. Everyone knows you can run your work through any AI machine. My 25 year career is basically in the toilet.
Oof I’m so sorry to hear that. I work for a small publishing company and I can’t express how much we rely on our proofreaders. There are aspects of a book that technology just can’t understand, and so a human perspective (and level of care) is invaluable. Again I’m so sorry AI has had such a negative effect on your field and I hope people will start moving away from AI editing
If Spotify gains prominence as an audiobook platform using this model, you will see story telling become shorter as it did with music. Or, a single book will be a series as from GraphicAudio. Shorter songs means more plays which leads to more money. Where then epic stories will end up with half the pay.
I disagree with the premise - the very premise - that what marketers call AI will *ever* develop into a technology that can make books as good as authors can. What we call AI is just neural networks, which are just pattern-matching engines. There is no way to make them creative without making them spew nonsense, fundamentally, because this technology doesn't actually have a conceptual understanding of anything - literally just patterns. In order to make something actually cohesive, let alone culturally relevant, it would need to be aping something that already makes that point or else stumble into it stochastically like a monkey at a typewriter. And monkeys on typewriters really just end up slamming the same keys over and over anyway.
Well... not just for spell check but AI can do multiple checks required for editing. It can recognise patterns and give you a better result. If improved further, it could even do developmental edits in future.
Book editors don't just get paid to run spellcheck? They look at your syntax and prose. They help you with natural flowing dialogue. They help you with delivering story exposition. Etc.
Another point for your conversation about AI, is that just like how chess is more popular than ever nowadays because of the viral internet culture surrounding it, booktube and booktok have made reading culture more popular than ever. And it seems like it's just going to keep getting bigger. For many reasons these days, an author getting their book noticed is already incredibly difficult. An oversaturated market is probably one of the biggest factors, and AI will only make that worse. 9 times out of 10, the way books get noticed is through word of mouth. Publishers might play around with AI books initially, but I just don't see AI books having much of an impact on booktube, booktok, bookstigram, etc. Internet culture is a huge factor in what young people want to read, and thus, I think human authors will continue to be the ones actually getting noticed.
In that regard one thing I’m really happy about is how concerned people are with the idea of actually owning the media you enjoy and not having it just on a platform in the ether that can disappear. I like how since the supply of physical media like movies is getting so low that the demand is only going to rise and make your local record book and movie store more and more popular.
Hold on. Let's not get things mixed up. Daniel Greene said that independent authors could use AI for *editing.* Not for art. AI art is theft (for somewhat complicated but inextricable reasons).
the AI conversation is so interesting to me because I've been taking a class where we have been editing responses that AI have made about poems or novels, and a lot of the response is reliant on what it can find about that work on the internet. Often if the work itself isn't popular, the AI tends to give up or just uses quotes from other works to support its argument but without acknowledging that it is not from the piece its meant to be talking about. It cannot create ideas that it can't find. It's most original ideas are still typically prompted by the person running it. Everything I have read that is created by AI, lacks general understanding of the topics its asked about. It's like reading the wikipedia page for a book and then doing a presentation on it, without reading the book itself. I wonder if AI could eventually write entire original books that actually make sense, would it just be based on the works of other authors? Would there be a copyright case at some point? I don't know if I believe it's a genuine threat for novels at this point, I think it could be an issue for television a lot sooner than novels, but I definitely think it will cause some turbulence and is a super interesting topic
Have you thought that perhaps when the writers don't get paid enough from the books they write and get the money from merch or fancy editions, it might be away from someone else's pay? If the fancy editions or merch is produced unethically or in places where work is cheap (there is always a reason for cheap)? It sounds like a vicious circle. And I'm not pointing fingers (except capitalism :D )
Yep! I remember Jeopardy champions including Jennings trying to compete against Watson the IBM super computer. There were several rounds where Watson bested the humans and a few rounds where Jennings or whoever bested Watson. It was super cool
Long time fan so I don’t mean to be negative, but if you both claim to be such large Sanderson fans why don’t we have more reviews of his books? Still a wonderful video, I love to hear both of your insights into the publishing world.
Definitely more to come - we try to balance the podcast with nonreviews, reviews, and covering different authors of course. We are reading through WOT which ends with Sanderson, but more Sanderson books will come without a doubt
@@2ToRamble I love to hear it, I first heard of Sanderson and the cosmere from your channel and decided to start with Mistborn. I have now finished the trilogy and started Elantris, I did have to add some other non Sanderson books in between so I didn’t burn myself out.
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I think something that can also be said here is: Would I pay for an AI-written book? Personally, I wouldn't pay a cent
Really glad the podcast has been writer-oriented in so many ways. It’s entertaining and educating which is the perfect mix.
We’ll keep that up! Glad you’re liking it 🙏
Subscriptions are great for being introduced to things. Then, I feel, it's really important to buy physical versions of the things you love if you don't want to lose access to them.
"Humans aren't interested in watching a computer be perfect. Humans are more pro-human than we think." Excellent point.
Thank you! Richard makes great points too - the whole AI conversation is just fascinating us
I discovered you guys just a couple of months back and how I wish more people watched you. Tbh, I do consider the books on your bookshelves as recommendations 😬
Ahh thanks very much!!
next book review will be Anthony Ryan - Waking Fire, it's missing from the shelf so Austin is probably reading it now (I would like Austin to read Rage of Dragons now that he's read Red Rising and get his opinion of it because I just read it)
Im down for a good revenge story! Love that trope
Can you even possibly believe that this writer is the reason I have to use a pen name… - Anthony Ryan!
I started Way of Kings. I don't know if it's for me, but I'm enjoying Kaladin pov.
I think my main issue so far is I'm a standard novel length into the book and not much has happened. But I'm keeping an open mind till the end
Way of kings definitely is a lot less plot heavy. Even though i enjoyed it regardless of that, i can understand why people may not like it. I would say stick at it and from words of radiance onwards it gets much better!
it took me about 200 pages to really understand what was going on, but after that it was just awesome the rest of the way. I actually found a like-new hardcover of it at a library book sale Saturday for $1 PLUS the same for Mistborn, I couldn't believe it.
I’m three books in and I finally know what it’s about
@@UsesElevators You just spooked me
Please do because by the end you will have a completely different view on the journey you've been in 😂
This video was so interesting! So many awesome topics, loved hearing your guys thoughts :) Very excited to see what the future has in hold for you guys with your future plans in the industry! I really can't wait for you to read Yumi and The Nightmare Painter because it brings up some of these ideas in the story and ofc Brano Sando delievres the message beautifully
Oo now comes the question of whether we read Yumi or Tress first, and thankya as always summer!
@@2ToRamble let me know if you do! I'd happily do a reread 😋
In my country we have several big audiobook companies that offer their entire catalog with unlimited listening time for $5-6 per month. Probably terrible for authors.
In our case, having real competition in the audiobook space is a problem. One company started offering a month of unlimited listening for the price of 1-2 audiobooks and all the others just had to match this offer.
Oh wow!
Similar here, just a bit higher price. Some 15-20 euros for the unlimited. The service providers have catalogues ranging from about 250k to 500k audiobooks. But the competition with the return offers is insane. You get deals from 0,1 € to 1€ for a period of 1 to 3 months if you resume your subscription. This allows the customers to get through the year by paying just a handful of euros if they are willing to juggle two to three service providers.
Definitely a reminder for an aspiring writer, like me, to just do what I do because I like it and not in hopes of making any money from it.
in spain audible, storytel, nextory etc u dont pay for a credit or a book, u pay around 10 euros (sometimes even 5) and u can listen all the books u want without a limit for that month. that said authors like sanderson or the latest popular books are not included and u have to pay for the book.
So I came back after a meeting and you guys got into AI. I'm a programmer who dabbles in writing. I can tell you with 99% certainty that books will not be written by AI in the foreseeable future. AI can't even write code that isn't just generic StackOverflow-like boilerplate.
Wrting a novel will be one of the last fronteers of AI. Characters have to have internal monologues, interact with the world, the plot, etc. It's insane to think AI (glorified statistical analysis) doing anything like that without massive leaps in tech. It's so overhyped right now
Thats good to hear - Rich and I seem to agree that if it does happen, it is FAR far away from ever being possible
Caveat - Rich might think it’s closer than me, but we agree the timeline isnt any time ‘soon’
@@2ToRamble There's so much else that will be replaced before novels that we'll see it coming a billion miles away.
I'm not even sure you could call it AI at that point. It would just be inteligiece.
The difference between story telling and other types of art, such as painting, is a novel is more than aesthetics. It's more than plot points. It's a all that plus a view into how someone experiences the world. It's just us being human in a more exciting circumstance.
What's more likely is writers will use it to generate descriptions, or adjust style, something along those lines. I've tried using chatgpt to create little pieces of writing to use, but so far I didn't like it. Even generated paragraph seems useless
1:14:19 I'm the exact same with Blumhouse. They're my favourite horror company.
Super interesting topics and discussion, thanks yall ❤
Thanks so much
I saw Defiant on your shelf. I'm making a TTRPG and a spell inspired by a defensive thing Spin did towards the end of the book (specific enough for people that know to know what I'm talking about but vague enough to avoid spoilers)
Now that we know austin is a big chess fan we need an episode where you two play chess
OOOO we must convince Richard!
Only if Richard plays 3D chess while Austin plays regular chess !
1:20:01 I actually do think of Logan Lerman as Percy lol.
Same actually, well at least a younger Logan Lerman, and Grover will always be black for me because of it
@@PokeJoshNY lol yes! I can only imagine black Grover.
Damn shoutout for that alternate Audiobook platform SOUNDS AWESOME being able to download the books and own them. Switching to that real quick
I loved loved loved the chess analogy/parallels, Austin
Ahh thankya!
There is a point on which I disagree with both your points of view and that is the reason why there are so many subgenres in literature (or in whatever, like in heavy metal music, for instance). The main reason is not marketing. The main reason is psychology, how human brain works. The need to categorize, to classify, to put thing in mental boxes is inherent to the human experience. Aristotle already did it, way before marketing was a "science". It's the reason why Tier lists and top 10 or 20 or infinite (the lowest form of classification) have so much success. And it's the reason why marketing uses it as a tool. And with this tendency in our psychology comes the Russian doll effect in that all boxes contain other smaller boxes, which themselves contain even smaller boxes, and so on until every individual thing has its own box. What marketing does is say "hey, this thing in its own box is inside a slightly bigger box that contain those other things that you might like too, come buy it".
Also I don't like using the word AI for ChatGPT and things like that because, to me that isn't what real AI is supposed to be. Those algorithms only imitate (with good to amazing accuracy) what they absorb as data but are incapable of genuine, original thought, which a true AI would/should do. What we have for now are basically very good monkeys in that regard. But, I think that my main issue with calling those algorithms "AI" as to do with the world "Intelligence". I'm French/Portuguese, and in those languages "intelligence" refers almost exclusively to the ability to produce thoughts (what algorithms don't do), whereas in English "intelligence" can and often means "data".
Oo love the thoughts, thanks for commenting this
Looking forward to that extended AI discussion episode.
Audio subscriptions are for consumption and physical books are for shelf trophies and ownership.
Love your guys’ stuff, thank you for giving me something to listen to while I manage the shit show I run at home
Also was the author you were talking about doing skits and stuff named Alex Aster, author of Lightlark ?
Cheers! Thanks for watching - and that doesnt ring a bell or at least we’re hnaware about the skit stuff.
Great point of authors needing to keep creative control of visual media.
The free 15 hours on Spotify may be good for listening to the first chapter or two of a book before they decide to pay the price of the book in general. Though granted, if you were. Trying to listen to a chapter of a Brandon Sanderson book, you would consume most of those free hours. 😂
Exactly 😂
Awesome to hear you're a chess fan Austin! I started learning how to play chess around the time the Queens Gambit series came out and have been obsessed with it ever since (still not very good...)
How long have you been playing? Have you ever played an over the board tournament?
Thanks again for the content guys!
Hey!! Oh yes - my dad taught me when I was 3 - I played in over the board tournaments growing up, but now play casually. Im looking to join another tournament for fun (not as good as i was) but it’s one of my favorite board games! Love all board games in general. Have you/will you ever play in a tournament?
@2ToRamble I wish I'd learnt when I was a kid! I feel like learning as an adult makes things a bit harder... and I don't think I'll ever play seriously over the board, just having fun playing casually online!
If you ever do end up playing in a tournament again in the future, I'd love to hear a mini Easter egg update about it in a future podcast ;)
Oh I'll be sure to mention it if I do! And yes I feel the same way with languages -- wish I learned more as a kid, now it's much harder to pick up as an adult -- totally get what you mean@@Birdshowace
You guys should do a book review on Empire of Silence. It is very similar to Red Rising. It has an expansive universe with different races and a lot of political intrigue.
Our patrons picked that for our next book of the month! We’re reading that and discussing at the end of the month with them as we speak - will have a podcast on it for sure
45:00 This got me thinking about how the increasing parasocial and aesthetic aspect of reading culture does combat against the negative effects of AI. Despite it arguably being a superficial phenomena, the whole idea of books selling more depending on the appearance and charisma of the author on social media could be a necessary "lesser evil" that negates the sterilisation of the art form, and art itself, by AI interruption.
Great thoughts!
I'm a professional freelance editor. I saw my career vanish almost overnight with the pandemic and the dawn of AI. I used to make a passable living as a proofreader. The pandemic hit and my client load plummeted by about half. When AI hit, I lost about two thirds of what was left. I struggle to make a couple hundred dollars a week. Everyone knows you can run your work through any AI machine. My 25 year career is basically in the toilet.
Oof I’m so sorry to hear that. I work for a small publishing company and I can’t express how much we rely on our proofreaders. There are aspects of a book that technology just can’t understand, and so a human perspective (and level of care) is invaluable. Again I’m so sorry AI has had such a negative effect on your field and I hope people will start moving away from AI editing
If Spotify gains prominence as an audiobook platform using this model, you will see story telling become shorter as it did with music. Or, a single book will be a series as from GraphicAudio. Shorter songs means more plays which leads to more money. Where then epic stories will end up with half the pay.
Interesting - I (austin) didn’t think about this, I wonder if that will be the case
When this popped up on my apple podcast for a second I thought that Brandon Sanderson and Daniel Greene came on the podcast
One day!
Publishers are loosing attention because they are focusing on pandering rather than focusing on talent and merit
Do you have a Good Reads?
We dont use one actively
I disagree with the premise - the very premise - that what marketers call AI will *ever* develop into a technology that can make books as good as authors can. What we call AI is just neural networks, which are just pattern-matching engines. There is no way to make them creative without making them spew nonsense, fundamentally, because this technology doesn't actually have a conceptual understanding of anything - literally just patterns. In order to make something actually cohesive, let alone culturally relevant, it would need to be aping something that already makes that point or else stumble into it stochastically like a monkey at a typewriter. And monkeys on typewriters really just end up slamming the same keys over and over anyway.
2:08 2ToRamble on that SSSniperwolf grindset 💪💪💪🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
😂
I would be ok with AI authors only if it could finish the endings of series well like a Dream of Spring for a Song of Ice and Fire 😂
😂
Why would anyone need AI for editing? Spellcheck exists doesn't it?
Well... not just for spell check but AI can do multiple checks required for editing. It can recognise patterns and give you a better result. If improved further, it could even do developmental edits in future.
Also, what you're saying is the equivalent of, why would anyone need self driving cars when automatic transmission exists.
AI can give you advice based on your goals and story faster than a human can.
Book editors don't just get paid to run spellcheck? They look at your syntax and prose. They help you with natural flowing dialogue. They help you with delivering story exposition. Etc.
That’s a weird way to spell “lightbringer review”
FINISH THE BOOK OR GET THE BOX
I finished Im waiting on Richard 😂😭😭
I know who to blame about lightbringer! 😂 it starts with R and ends with ichard
Can you time stamp the rating? I’ve missed it 🤔
Really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on their predictions! This podcast is always the highlight of my Mondays😊
Ahhh thank you - glad you enjoyed!
Another point for your conversation about AI, is that just like how chess is more popular than ever nowadays because of the viral internet culture surrounding it, booktube and booktok have made reading culture more popular than ever. And it seems like it's just going to keep getting bigger.
For many reasons these days, an author getting their book noticed is already incredibly difficult. An oversaturated market is probably one of the biggest factors, and AI will only make that worse. 9 times out of 10, the way books get noticed is through word of mouth. Publishers might play around with AI books initially, but I just don't see AI books having much of an impact on booktube, booktok, bookstigram, etc. Internet culture is a huge factor in what young people want to read, and thus, I think human authors will continue to be the ones actually getting noticed.
In that regard one thing I’m really happy about is how concerned people are with the idea of actually owning the media you enjoy and not having it just on a platform in the ether that can disappear. I like how since the supply of physical media like movies is getting so low that the demand is only going to rise and make your local record book and movie store more and more popular.
I (austin) agree with you - but Richard does make great points and always love the AI conversation. Great thoughts & thanks for watching!
Hold on. Let's not get things mixed up.
Daniel Greene said that independent authors could use AI for *editing.* Not for art. AI art is theft (for somewhat complicated but inextricable reasons).
the AI conversation is so interesting to me because I've been taking a class where we have been editing responses that AI have made about poems or novels, and a lot of the response is reliant on what it can find about that work on the internet. Often if the work itself isn't popular, the AI tends to give up or just uses quotes from other works to support its argument but without acknowledging that it is not from the piece its meant to be talking about. It cannot create ideas that it can't find. It's most original ideas are still typically prompted by the person running it. Everything I have read that is created by AI, lacks general understanding of the topics its asked about. It's like reading the wikipedia page for a book and then doing a presentation on it, without reading the book itself. I wonder if AI could eventually write entire original books that actually make sense, would it just be based on the works of other authors? Would there be a copyright case at some point? I don't know if I believe it's a genuine threat for novels at this point, I think it could be an issue for television a lot sooner than novels, but I definitely think it will cause some turbulence and is a super interesting topic
Love the thoughts - yes this whole convo can spin off in 100 directions. Super interesting and might warrant another whole pod episode on it
You guys have quickly become one of my all-time favourite podcasts, keep up the good work lads
Ahh thanks very much!
Have you thought that perhaps when the writers don't get paid enough from the books they write and get the money from merch or fancy editions, it might be away from someone else's pay? If the fancy editions or merch is produced unethically or in places where work is cheap (there is always a reason for cheap)? It sounds like a vicious circle. And I'm not pointing fingers (except capitalism :D )
You guys are helping my sickness fly by.
😁
By any chance, when are you guys planning to do a lightbringer video?
Richard here. Soon as I finish the book, nearly done now.
Let’s play chess sometime Austin
Reach out on IG! Thatd be fun
Yep! I remember Jeopardy champions including Jennings trying to compete against Watson the IBM super computer. There were several rounds where Watson bested the humans and a few rounds where Jennings or whoever bested Watson. It was super cool
That intro was gold 😆makes me feel better about accepting that exchange.
😂😂
Where shadow rising review🥳
Making our way there!
Long time fan so I don’t mean to be negative, but if you both claim to be such large Sanderson fans why don’t we have more reviews of his books? Still a wonderful video, I love to hear both of your insights into the publishing world.
Definitely more to come - we try to balance the podcast with nonreviews, reviews, and covering different authors of course. We are reading through WOT which ends with Sanderson, but more Sanderson books will come without a doubt
@@2ToRamble I love to hear it, I first heard of Sanderson and the cosmere from your channel and decided to start with Mistborn. I have now finished the trilogy and started Elantris, I did have to add some other non Sanderson books in between so I didn’t burn myself out.
We may attack one of his secret project books next!@@bigflee3556
there not all home runs a lot of them are stinkers... (sorry to break it to you but the LOTR adaptations are the worst)
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