Part Probing in Auto mode with ProgramGuide Sinumerik 840D & 828

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  • @agg42
    @agg42 3 місяці тому

    Holy smokes, thank you so much for this video. Gives me a start to in-process inspection.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 місяці тому

      Glad it helped!

  • @jayppop3333
    @jayppop3333 2 роки тому

    thanks bro im new to these controls

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      No problem 👍

  • @MrHelpcam
    @MrHelpcam Рік тому

    1. After calling the probe for probing in auto mode, the rapid traverse to the point to be measured is too slow.
    2. The rapid traverse to the tool change point is too slow when calling the next tool after probing is complete.
    3. Probe feed rate is too slow, reducing productivity.
    4. The equipment is a DMG DMU65 monoBLOCK.
    5. I would like to know the parameter controlling the rapid traverse speed.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  Рік тому

      You should confirm with DMG MORI. to the best of my knowledge:
      I would look at these and the range from SD55628-SD55640
      Chanel SD55632 $SCS_MEA_FEED_RAPID_IN_PERCENT
      Chanel SD55634 $SCS_MEA_FEED_plane_VALUE
      Chanel SD55636 $SCS_MEA_FEED_FEEDAX_VALUE
      if you change any of these I would calibrate the probe

  • @MrHelpcam
    @MrHelpcam 11 місяців тому

    Why are measurement cycles that can be used in jog mode not available in auto mode?
    For example
    [2 holes], [3holes], [4 holes], [2 circ. spigots], [3 circ. spigots], [4 circ. spigots], cycles, etc.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  10 місяців тому

      Siemens did not develop those cycle for auto

    • @MrHelpcam
      @MrHelpcam 10 місяців тому

      thank you

  • @MrMirkoi
    @MrMirkoi 2 місяці тому

    Are all the M-functions saved somewhere on the machine? If so, where can you find them?
    Tnh

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 місяці тому

      No those are builder specific. Some builder have a list on the machien

  • @asgarhosnkholg5143
    @asgarhosnkholg5143 2 роки тому

    I think the sinutrain software does not detect the collision (collision of the 3D PROBE with the edge of the work piece) because when I change the part sizes but do not change the length and width numbers of the part within the cycle,After measurement it shows the same size with a slight difference.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      This is interesting can you please email me your contact Information?
      we can try to take look at what is going on
      Dan.strubel@Siemens.com

  • @NoleGOAT
    @NoleGOAT 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, do you maybe know how to increase feed rate for touch probe during cycle measurment?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  3 роки тому +1

      As measuring feedrate, all of the measuring cycles use the value saved in the general setting
      data SD54611 after the calibration of the workpiece probe. A different measuring feedrate can
      be assigned for each calibration field [n]. Hope that helps!

  • @CharlesMitchellWoodChuckCNC
    @CharlesMitchellWoodChuckCNC 2 роки тому

    I do understand that the feed rate for the probe has to be controlled. But when I call up the probe and run some manual measurements, then switch to a machining program I always have no control of my feed rate (knob, Dial) its either off or 100% on. Should I put a "M" code to turn that feature (probe) off ? Also are we limited to only 3 hits when adjusting a plane or can we add more? I have a DMU50 5 axis machine w/840D control

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      What Generation DMU 50 do you have? 2nd or 3rd
      For your 3 point probe question to the best of my knowledge we are limited to only 3 points.

  • @pozalujstapodpishus3062
    @pozalujstapodpishus3062 Рік тому

    is it possible to write with "meas" command and variable $p_uifr[1,y,tr] coordinate in tilt plane, for example A-45 C+0?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  Рік тому +1

      The meas command it just a trigger. you would have to capture the position from a system variable. Then up your work offset. support.industry.siemens.com/cs/ww/en/view/109760776

  • @balooc2
    @balooc2 Рік тому

    i run alot of fixture parts in a new machine i've been assigned to. i've never really worked in siemens before when it comes to 5 axis, just heidenhain. in heidenain you can take measurements in their jog mode. how can i do a similar measure in siemens 840? its just a quick and easy way to take a measure, no programming, just some probing in jog . thanks in advance

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  Рік тому

      there is a drop down to measure only please email if you want to see this Dan.strubel@siemens.com

  • @asgarhosnkholg5143
    @asgarhosnkholg5143 2 роки тому

    Hi
    Why does the diameter of the probe ball increase with repeated measurements?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      This is interesting can you please email me your contact Information?
      we can try to take look at what is going on
      Dan.strubel@Siemens.com

  • @subbuadabala3563
    @subbuadabala3563 2 роки тому

    Can you pls say whether we can connect and use ' 1' part measuring probe and '2' tool measuring probes with Sinumerik 840D Sl NCU710.3?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      yes you can. their are 2 dedicated inputs on the NCU for probes.

  • @pozalujstapodpishus3062
    @pozalujstapodpishus3062 Рік тому

    познавательное видео
    столкнулись с проблемой, приобрели станки на siemens 840d, до них работали в heidenhain. непривычно то, что в Jog (ручном) режиме меришь заготовку, и запуская цикл заново в туже точку на разной подаче, получаешь разные значения. При этом это не 0,01 мм, не 0,1 мм, а миллиметры.
    На heidenhain такого нет, ну подача самого измерения там никак не влияет на показания измерения... Тут вообще ступор, мы с таким еще не сталкивались...

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  Рік тому

      I am not sure what your questions is can you ask it again?

    • @pozalujstapodpishus3062
      @pozalujstapodpishus3062 Рік тому

      probing on different feedrate gives a different values... thats why probing on our machines on 100% feedrate...

  • @VKDrumsHD
    @VKDrumsHD 4 роки тому

    Do you know if the 808D basic has measuring cycles like the 828 & 840? I’m thinking of getting a Tschorn 4.0 probe, but they are not sure if the 808 has these. Or is there a probe you can recommend for my new cnc mill arriving in a few weeks. Thanks 🙏

    • @roberttheunissen534
      @roberttheunissen534 2 роки тому

      do you have an answer to this? im interested in the same thing

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      This is up to the builder of the machine. I would recommend Renishaw, Blum, or Marposs for spindle probes

  • @roughedge-machineworks
    @roughedge-machineworks 2 роки тому

    I have a 810D machine that had shopmill in it, after a bit of a mishap with the PCU i swapped it for a PCU50.3 that now connects and workst just fine.. but in hmi adv. i cannot find the TSM buttons and so on.. Do they need to be installed manually?? I have the measuring cycles in the CCU - but i cannot see the buttons for em in the HMI. I did before on the embedded controller, but not on the new win xp based one..
    Any ideas?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      Shop mill was an option for 810D that has the TSM page
      you would have to call the hotline: (800)879-8079

    • @roughedge-machineworks
      @roughedge-machineworks 2 роки тому

      @@MrCNC thanks, now got it to work after talking to the support.
      Then back to stupid questions; how do you use these cycles in manual jog mode with non-integrated measuring tools? The menus for toolsetting and so on only shows up for integrated settings.
      Is it the same menu? (again remembering the shopmill that had an explicit manual measuring button - which i dont seem to be able to find in the package for hmi adv).
      Manual measuring is prob. more common on older machines - but still something i think alot of users out there would find useful.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  Рік тому

      you can use a edge finder or endmill in the manual jog screens

    • @roughedge-machineworks
      @roughedge-machineworks Рік тому

      @@MrCNC Ah sadly not working just get some activation error.. Oh well might just be old i suppose. :)

  • @marcelcechlar505
    @marcelcechlar505 4 роки тому

    Hello. How to make probe activate earlier during edge point measuring Xor Y (no protection zone function for this strategy) in order to protect against colision ?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  4 роки тому

      is this in Jog mode or auto mode?

    • @marcelcechlar505
      @marcelcechlar505 4 роки тому

      @@MrCNC in auto mode

  • @abdelhayelbouazzaouy7591
    @abdelhayelbouazzaouy7591 2 роки тому +1

    do you have pdf please

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      Can you send me your email address Dan.strubel@siemens.com

  • @chokoboco
    @chokoboco 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know who is the machine parameter for touch probe spindle orientation during measurement? This should be determined somewhere. Our machine with Sinumerik 828D touches the workpieces with different sides. This way, the run out can not be avoided.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  3 роки тому

      What software version is your 828D running?
      I would suggest to adjust the touch probe mechanically as much as possible (if it is adjustable) to take out any runout.

    • @chokoboco
      @chokoboco 3 роки тому

      @@MrCNC I don't know what exactly is the version, but the parameter must be the same on all versions... but anyway. Thank you very much for the response!

  • @aaronrussell6334
    @aaronrussell6334 4 роки тому

    How do you write to fine shift in work offset ?

    • @kevindick8905
      @kevindick8905 2 роки тому

      Any Answer to this?

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      Depends on the builder
      Please email me the builder:
      Dan.strubel@Siemens.com

  • @junjiezhang6058
    @junjiezhang6058 2 роки тому

    Hi, Thank you for this useful content. We recently bought DMG MORI and I am new to it. I know there is 2 holes spigots in Jog mode, but I would like to use this function in my programs. Do you know how to achieve this. Thank you in advance.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  2 роки тому

      2 holes probing cycle is not possible in a program. You can do this by a custom cycle. Please email me the details Dan.strubel@Siemens.com

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    @user-it3qg8dh9l 9 місяців тому

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    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC  9 місяців тому

      what do you need help with?

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      @user-it3qg8dh9l 9 місяців тому

      CYCLE800 POINT FINDING@@MrCNC

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      @user-it3qg8dh9l 9 місяців тому

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