Chris Evert vs Pam Shriver | US Open 1978 Final

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  • Chris Evert goes in search of her fourth consecutive US Open title as she takes on 16-year-old Pam Shriver in the final of US Open 1978.
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  • @brentdingwall8509
    @brentdingwall8509 9 місяців тому +6

    The Chrissie groundies are forever a thing of great beauty

    • @lflagr
      @lflagr Місяць тому

      meanwhile, Shriver's groundstrokes might be the worst I've ever seen at the pro level lol

  • @valafitzpatrick899
    @valafitzpatrick899 4 роки тому +30

    I met Pam Shriver in Australia the day after she played a great game at the Ozzie open. It was in an expensive antique shop. We actually spoke and she signed the book 📚 I purchased. Lovely girl. 🥍

    • @roberttrail7013
      @roberttrail7013 4 роки тому +1

      You mean great match?

    • @valafitzpatrick899
      @valafitzpatrick899 4 роки тому +2

      @@roberttrail7013 No!! I meant Great game of Tennis.🎾

    • @ViaticalTree
      @ViaticalTree 4 роки тому

      Vala Fitzpatrick She only played one game? Did she get injured and have to retire?

    • @aeichelberger15
      @aeichelberger15 3 роки тому +1

      Ive had the privilege of having parents who are great friends with her. shes super cool

    • @jas22
      @jas22 3 роки тому +1

      i remember her in her prime. just a humble, nice, woman. couldnt seem to stay in the upper echelon of tennis champs, though.

  • @jayo.7086
    @jayo.7086 3 роки тому +45

    For all the criticism of the players and play in these comments, it’s interesting to note how much more popular tennis was in the US back in the late70s and early 80s compared to today. TV ratings for the US Open back then were usually in the 4.5 - 5.5% range (meaning about 4.5 - 5.5% of all households were tuned in). These days, ratings are usually in the 1.0 - 2.0% range, and have been steadily declining since the 80s. While some of you aren’t entertained by the play, it was very popular when it originally aired.

    • @deandrep4273
      @deandrep4273 Рік тому +1

      yeah cause it showed on espn now you need to have a special package to watch it

    • @Vipa567
      @Vipa567 Рік тому +4

      lol there was nothing else to watch other than a select channels then

    • @michaelbarlow6610
      @michaelbarlow6610 Рік тому +6

      @Jay O. Exactly! Tennis prior to the regrettable and deplorable abandonment of the small-headed, wood and metal rackets was real tennis compared to the tediously dull, sleep-inducing, wonderful cure for insomnia, unending baseline slugfests that the game has descended to today! The late great tennis historian/writer and TV broadcaster Bud Collins was absolutely right in 1989 or 1990 when he said in a videotaped segment on racket technology during NBC Sports' broadcast of the final Sunday of the 1989 or 1990 Wimbledon tournament, "The men's game is not very appealing right now - why? Because we let the high tech people (i.e., the tennis equipment manufacturers) run away with the game! No one - myself included - saw as baseball and cricket did, that you must not leave the wooden implement - in baseball and cricket - the bat, in tennis - the racket. We didn't see that - everyone said, 'Oh graphite is wonderful' - graphite is not wonderful for tennis - graphite is wonderful for the average player, but there should be a professional tennis racket of wood for men (i.e., the male pros)". He was absolutely right!

    • @michaelbarlow6610
      @michaelbarlow6610 Рік тому +2

      Pam Shriver's lack of great physical fitness conditioning, as well as her overreliance on underspin shots on both forehand and backhand cost her this match against Evert!

    • @ugaais
      @ugaais Рік тому +1

      Chris Evert feet are planted on her serve

  • @prodigaldsd2003
    @prodigaldsd2003 4 роки тому +26

    I always thought Pam's "duck walk' was comical. It's one of the things that endeared her to me. Her height and movement played against her in singles; but her doubling with Martina was a brilliant move in her career.

    • @nassauguy48
      @nassauguy48 2 роки тому

      Yes, very much like Betty Stove, another tall player who was limited in singles (she reached one Grand Slam final as well, Wimbledon 1977) but achieved stellar success in both women's (with Martina) and mixed doubles.

  • @JohnJones-fg1dd
    @JohnJones-fg1dd 4 роки тому +39

    Evert's concentration and poise at her best was unparalleled.

    • @gwp5066
      @gwp5066 3 роки тому +3

      and she was no "pusher." She came to the net and went for winners.

    • @peterhammer4644
      @peterhammer4644 Рік тому

      @@gwp5066her serve was a onlyhands push. Also didn't like her forehand. Actually I dont understand it, she had a great athletic backhand, where she used her whole body perfectly but then both serve and forehand she was mostly hitting without her body behind the ball.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Рік тому

      @@peterhammer4644 That changed for Chris after she switched to graphite and later in her career. Just a different style at that time than now.

  • @jm7804
    @jm7804 2 роки тому +7

    People laugh at old matches with wooden racquets but you have no idea how difficult it was to hit the ball like that with one. Your timing had to be terrific to be good with one. Side note... prize money was 38,000 to the winner. LOL. Inflation adjusted that's 150,000 today. The USO champs won 2.5 million this year and 3 million last year. Times have changed.

    • @MrJeepsters
      @MrJeepsters Місяць тому

      C'était très difficile de jouer avec une raquette en bois : très lourde, surtout sur la durée d'un match.

  • @mikecostello144
    @mikecostello144 4 роки тому +21

    I have a feeling that many of these people commenting have never played with a woodie! To compare especially Chris to someone playing today with a different technology is unfair. To those people commenting that it is a boring style of tennis...my answer is that it is a different style of tennis. The wood didn't allow to blast winners from anywhere in the court. You had to set the point up and use strategy. Most players used a serve and volley tactic and there were great contrasts in style. Today...everyone is a baseliner BECAUSE of the technology. Players even stay back in doubles. Evert was the best of her era AND she played during the switch from wood to other materials. Many players could not have adjusted to the changes in stroke production. Evert did...Look at her forehand from the wood era to later in her career. Totally different and improved. When Navratilova was dominating Evert (losing 13 times in a row), Evert could have packed it in but she upped her fitness and commitment to challenge Martina for the remainder of their rivalry. Even in her last year she stayed with Graf and Seles...the power players of their era. I'm confident that were she playing today with current technology and training she would still be a champion.

    • @janjr165
      @janjr165 4 роки тому

      You don't even believe what you just wasted your precious time writing. You're a FOOL! LOL!!!

    • @marianpalko2531
      @marianpalko2531 4 роки тому

      Mike Costello C'mon this looks like today's 5.0 women league whereas Borg-Lendl for instance looks pretty much like modern ATP tennis.

    • @nala3038
      @nala3038 4 роки тому

      Mike Costello you’re delusional

    • @tomschmitz5745
      @tomschmitz5745 3 роки тому

      well said mike, because YOU KNOW what you are talking about, unlike the others who have posted negative simpleton and yes ignorant of the game, it's history, the technology changes and so on posts.

  • @kpso1323
    @kpso1323 4 роки тому +13

    Hard to believe that this is Pam's best showing in grand slams of her entire career. She looked so promising as a sixteen year old.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 2 роки тому +3

      I didn't find it hard to believe. Her movement was always bad and struggled to hold it togeather mentally consistently on the court. She was rarely ever to beat to top players. Her win/loss records against Chris/Martina/Tracy/ Graf etc were horrible. She had to get through them to make the finals. She was far more suited to doubles at the top level.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka Рік тому

      I guess one thing that worked against her is that she basically had a grass court game, and a lot of tennis was starting to move away from grass

    • @smftrsddvjiou6443
      @smftrsddvjiou6443 Рік тому

      She was a poor player, even with the Prince. Without the Prince she would have beent in the top 100.

  • @satyajitbanerjee3073
    @satyajitbanerjee3073 4 роки тому +20

    Entertaining tennis of the wooden racket era

  • @frankzito8653
    @frankzito8653 2 роки тому +6

    Fun match. Chris was the heavy favorite, and Pam made it interesting and entertaining. These two women are still involved in the game, doing commentary, player development and mentoring. Pam was unorthodox, but I loved watching her matches.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Рік тому

      Agreed great effort from Pam so full credit there. She just wasn't gonna beat Chris but she as hell have it a great try. Fought till the end.

  • @tonyalder
    @tonyalder 4 роки тому +27

    It’s amazing how the game has changed so much but these years were the golden years,no one will forget the names Borg,McEnroe,connors,evert and Navratilova

    • @markmauk8231
      @markmauk8231 3 роки тому +1

      And you really think people will forget the names Sampras, Agassi, Graf, Becker, Williams, Hingis, Federer, Djokovic and Nadal?
      Thats just your opinion because of noatalgia. You are emotionally attached to those times more than to todays game just because it was the time when you were young.
      Just like people back then said Laver, Gonzalez, Newcombe and Rosewall are the ones to remember and the generation before them called Budge, Cochet, Lacoste, Tilden, Hoad and Riggs the golden times. It won't end.

    • @tonyalder
      @tonyalder 3 роки тому +1

      @@markmauk8231 I they are great names too it’s just an era that was full of characters

    • @markmauk8231
      @markmauk8231 3 роки тому

      @@tonyalder Just like the eras before and after

    • @tonyalder
      @tonyalder 3 роки тому

      @@markmauk8231 not arguing with you your point is good

    • @princesofthepower3690
      @princesofthepower3690 2 роки тому

      @@markmauk8231 it’s always the old heads, that like to rant and rave about today’s players being worse than those of yesteryears. People just drinking the Nostalgia copium.

  • @angusthecat1689
    @angusthecat1689 4 роки тому +8

    i started the 8th grade the next day. time sure goes by quickly

  • @ericfreeman5795
    @ericfreeman5795 4 роки тому +17

    Boy it's incredible how many misinformed people are commenting this match (my wife has made me watch my language).
    Chrissie is playing with a heavy wooden racquet that does not give you much pace. Shriver is only 15 years old here and playing with one of the first Prince oversized aluminum racquets, and they were still heavy.
    Any of the "misinformed young upstarts" that are emitting opinions, if they tried to hit with their "modern" strokes using these "logs", I don't care how good shape they are in, their arm would fall off after 15 minutes.
    There's a reason these players are using a straight backswing and compact follow throughs. I've seen young players, solid players, pick up an old wooden racquet and try to hit with them using their modern strokes. After a short while they realize why "old timers" hit the way they do.

    • @kennethbrady
      @kennethbrady 4 роки тому +1

      Amen.

    • @frankcarbo6622
      @frankcarbo6622 4 роки тому

      @@kennethbrady yep - very true

    • @18Ram
      @18Ram 5 місяців тому

      nah mate you wrong
      i ve written with a wooden pencil and it is the same as using my graphite pen.
      these oldies are just terrible at tennis.
      also why were they so unattractive in those days?- did they not have any lip fillers ?
      surely shriver , if she was 15- thats just child abuse...

  • @camembertdalembert6323
    @camembertdalembert6323 4 роки тому +62

    1978 : female players are annoyed by the sound of the plane.
    2000+ : the plane is annoyed by the sound of female players.

    • @jorgenogueira3948
      @jorgenogueira3948 4 роки тому

      Thats really; tennis in general and female in particular is not as graceful as it used to be; now only power machines... :(

    • @berndv9133
      @berndv9133 4 роки тому

      lol

    • @fedecasares
      @fedecasares 4 роки тому +2

      I think the same. They should move the airport to prevent a catastrophe.

    • @paigehere5176
      @paigehere5176 3 роки тому

      You do realise men grunt as loud too right? Also, Seles had got grunting from the 90s itself

    • @camembertdalembert6323
      @camembertdalembert6323 3 роки тому

      @@paigehere5176 you realise this video shows women ?

  • @jasoncowell5133
    @jasoncowell5133 4 роки тому +6

    The first frame shows the result of the match...brilliant.

    • @lenwelch2195
      @lenwelch2195 4 місяці тому

      We all should know who won, not like anyone who would rewatch this doesn’t know the score. I can recite the scores of any Chris match by year in each of slams from Sf to final and some of earlier rounds and I know I’m not alone. I’m not a stalker lol

  • @johnhix7400
    @johnhix7400 4 роки тому +22

    You need to be a good player to use a wooden racket. I remember the transition from wood to graphite and suddenly I could hit the ball cleanly, seemingly from the middle of the racket. The sweet spot was about three times larger! You've got to give credit to these players, they could whip the arse of these modern day players with all their technology...

    • @flauschigesicht
      @flauschigesicht 4 роки тому

      john hix 4:59 sure of wooden rackets?

    • @johnhix7400
      @johnhix7400 4 роки тому +2

      Evert was using a wooden racket; unlike the large headed graphite racket that Shriver was using. As I said, you've got to be a quality player to win with a wooden racket, when compared to the larger, lighter, and more powerful rackets of the modern era. These new composites were just being introduced at this time.

    • @ericfreeman5795
      @ericfreeman5795 3 роки тому

      @@johnhix7400 Correction. Shriver using the original Prince oversize aluminum racquet.

    • @markmauk8231
      @markmauk8231 3 роки тому +1

      You needed to be good with a wooden racket, no doubt, but you also need to be good with modern rackets.
      It doesnt just make you better to use a modern racket, it also makes your opponents better.
      Its stupid and ignorant to think players in the earlier days were "better" just because they didnt have modern era rackets...Prime Federer or Nadal wouldnt be able to beat Prime Laver or Borg with a wooden racket, but its the same the other way around. Different technologies required to learn the game in a different way. Strokes were totally different and the comparison can't be made.
      But it sounds REALLY stupid to call todays players "modern day players with all their technolgy". Sounds like they have some sort of computer attached to their brain or something.
      No matter how old you might be, you need to grow up and appreciate todays players because they are absolutely amazing.

    • @HCaulfield115
      @HCaulfield115 3 роки тому

      Guarantee ALL the players on the Pro Tour can use wooden racquets. They may have to change their grips a bit but they would have no time adjusting. I still have a few wooden racquets laying around and hit with it once in a while. Not as hard you would think

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 4 роки тому +6

    The inaugural U.S. Open at Flushing Meadows in 1978 after USTA ditched Forest Hills.
    Ahhh, the memorable matches played on this hard court which aka Louis Armstrong Stadium.

  • @ericavalderrama2547
    @ericavalderrama2547 4 роки тому +8

    Beautiful "Charlie's Angel" hair for Chris Evert😍 and Pam Shriver's forehand and backhand slices, epic😘! Thanks for sharing this classic game. 👋🏼😷🌹

    • @Pure_B
      @Pure_B 4 роки тому

      And Fozzy Bear hair for Shriver. 😂

  • @kenarthur6253
    @kenarthur6253 4 роки тому +13

    Pam was a class act. Like her as an announcer too.

  • @treychrs
    @treychrs Рік тому +4

    I wish we could go back to those days.

  • @howlshedo
    @howlshedo 4 роки тому +7

    The quality 😦😍

    • @18Ram
      @18Ram 5 місяців тому

      total garbage

  • @leisurefarm
    @leisurefarm 4 роки тому +6

    i never expected this match to be so exciting. Pam is surprisingly really pretty good....i mean after all, she was still able to beat graf in 1988!

    • @grantgoffin4774
      @grantgoffin4774 3 роки тому +2

      She was brutally owned by all the top players she faced even in her prime, including Graf who drubbed her badly in their 2 Wimbledon semis, and never lost a set to her in a slam after beating her at the 85 U.S Open, but she also had some big wins at all their expenses- Martina twice at the U.S Open, Tracy at the 81 Wimbledon and 81 Australian which Tracy might have won otherwise, and of course Graf at the YEC in her Grand Slam year. All except Chris, who she didn't finally beat until 87, but never in even a semi important match.

    • @DonQuickZote
      @DonQuickZote Рік тому

      Lovely person and a great doubles player. But those groundstrokes 🙈 lol

  • @lenwelch2195
    @lenwelch2195 3 роки тому +4

    What people don’t realize is that at the time Pam had as good a serve as Martina in same year . She beat Martina 7-6,7-6 because Martina didn’t really have a passing shot game so her looks at a volley were great . Chris beat her 7-5,6-4 because her ground game was better than Martina’s . THEN Pam hurt her shoulder never to serve as effectively again which is why this is her only slam final .

    • @grantgoffin4774
      @grantgoffin4774 Рік тому

      She and Austin both injured themselves since they didn't listen to queen Billie Jean King's advice and overtrained at a young age.

  • @kewsiyehboah6058
    @kewsiyehboah6058 Рік тому +2

    Bravo Upload..
    $38,000 in 1978 Winners Prize Money = $173,686.81 Today..
    2023 - Winners Prize Money $ 2,600,000..
    Chris Evert Total Career Prize Money $8,895.195
    ( 1972 - 1989 ).. 157 Titles..

  • @effiesaliora1910
    @effiesaliora1910 4 роки тому +1

    My all time fav tennis player.I follow & like Serena many years now,but my first player I set eyes on late 70’s & loved to watch was Pam.Some times I see her on tour working & I don’t know what is going to happen next year here in Melbourne with this corona virus, Let’s hope things are looking better all over the world soon, & have TENNIS here in Melbourne again next year & if she comes hopefully maybe I’ll see her😘

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 2 роки тому +4

    Bit of interesting trivia here: Pam knocked out top seed Martina Navratilova in the semifinals, but I think just as interestingly, defeated Chris' younger sister Jeanne in the third round!

  • @TweedSuit
    @TweedSuit 4 роки тому +18

    Jeezus is this stadium at the airport??

  • @travis4183
    @travis4183 4 роки тому +17

    Genius !! What Einstein put the match score at the beginning of the video.

    • @favabean75
      @favabean75 4 роки тому +3

      it happened 50 years ago lol

    • @jorgschwantje1239
      @jorgschwantje1239 3 роки тому +1

      They always do that and I agree with you. I don't have every result in my head and it's really bull to put that in the 1st second.

  • @lemoncrash1814
    @lemoncrash1814 4 роки тому +4

    I miss the 70’s.

  • @colinhiggins4779
    @colinhiggins4779 2 роки тому +2

    Shriver's serve at 8:00 had to be one of the fastest ever by a woman. That thing was a rocket, and Evert didn't come close to getting her stick on it.

  • @cindygirlification
    @cindygirlification 4 роки тому +3

    Pam Shriver is a monument to the game 🤗

  • @maximilian2974
    @maximilian2974 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the upload. A fun and entertaining match.

  • @jhoneral3803
    @jhoneral3803 4 місяці тому

    I still have my old Jack Kramer, and my old Arthur Ashe comp 2.....

  • @midhileshmomidi2434
    @midhileshmomidi2434 4 роки тому +6

    Women's tennis attire fashion starts from 70s

  • @HCaulfield115
    @HCaulfield115 3 роки тому +2

    Continental forehand cracks me up

  • @BTURNER1961
    @BTURNER1961 4 роки тому +5

    I checked Evert's h to h against players who were tall (5 '9 inches or more) s/volleyers like Pam during Everts prime ( defined as the time between her slams June 1974 RG- June 1986 RG) I checked Margaret Court 5'9, Betty Stove 5'11, Pam 6'0 , Helena Sukova 6'2, and Claudia Kohde Kilch 6'2. (Martina and Hana were an inch shorter, wade was 5'7. Graf was 5'9 but she did not charge in) There is not a single recorded loss in those parameters. Its just a tough match up. Chris returned that big heavy first serve very well, and she knew how to exploit players who did not change directions well in the back court. Its not that there were never losses, but none of them came during her prime. Sukova got her first months after Evert's last major. Shriver had to wait until 1987 for her very first win. Court got her last in 1973, and Betty and Claudia never won at all.
    On the other hand, Martina had two losses against Claudia, three against Shriver and three against Sukova between July 1978 and July 1990.

    • @ag358
      @ag358 4 роки тому +1

      Court already had her first child and was at the tail end of her record setting career. 194 singles titles, the most 24 grand slam titles, the most, 64 all round grand slam titles, the most, 1177-107 match record thats 92% all time best. First woman to have a true grand slam in the open era. Only 3 women have had a grand slam, Smith, graff,Connolly. Smith had 2 mixed double true grand slams. It would have been interesting to see evert in her prime play smith in her prime. Smith was tall but she moved very well and had great reach with long arms. She was credited with first to weight lift and cross country training for her profession.

    • @BTURNER1961
      @BTURNER1961 4 роки тому

      @@ag358 You realize that I am talking about specific years based on Evert's prime, not Court's and about a specific body type, and style of play. Not one word of what I wrote is meant to disparage Margaret Court. But the actual rivalry supports my position which is that this was a bad match up for Margaret. Literally Court lost the first three matches she played against a 15 and 16 year old Chris Evert and could not manage a single set, Evert won 7-6,7-6; then 6-3,6-3; then 6-3,7-6 and all while Court was ranked #1, and with another French, two Aussies and another US Open still in her. This was not some over the hill or pregnant Margaret. She was in her prime. Its an astonishing unprecedented feat, that can only be explained as a terrible match up for Court. To her great credit, Court rebounded and figured out how to play Chris and went on to win 4 of the next 5 matches, before losing the rest of the matches that I refer to above, post -1974 RG. By that point, this was not the same Margaret in 1975-1977 because she had left for her second child, and was older. She never regained that speed to which you rightly refer. This Margaret had lost a step, so she actually fit the broad description I offered above. The big serve was still there , but that was never a problem for Chris anyway, and without that speed.... well. Don't be defensive here. I am a great admirer of Court's tennis as one of the all time greats. But match-ups are match-ups. and Court had serious trouble with Chrissies game, that King, Goolagong even Wade did not early on

    • @ag358
      @ag358 4 роки тому

      @@BTURNER1961 i get defensive on smith, she rarely gets her 24 majors or 194 singles victories or 64 all round majors mentioned because she played on both eras. After the final in Wimbledon in 71, she left tour to have her first child in march of 72 returned late in 72, in 73 she won 3of the 4 grand slam singles titles. Missed most of 74 to have 2nd child, return in 75, missed 76 for 3rd child, returned again and found out in 77 she was pregnant with 4th child , she retired. Clearly she wasn't in her prime or completely focused on tennis. Evert stunned a lot of serve and volley players with her offensive lobs. I think smith winning 3 grand slam events in 73 after giving birth and missing a lot of time is stunning but Clearly he focus was on family after 73. They overlapped each others careers but smith's was complicated or blessed with 3 children on the end of her career. I would love to have seen them play in both of their primes. Court's match record of 1177 wins and 106 losses (92%) is head shaking. But i understand your match up analysis, it's difficult to do through parts of player's time-line. If you could compare everts career with players that played the same time-line would be more correct. Even martina and Chris's time-line is slightly off.

    • @BTURNER1961
      @BTURNER1961 4 роки тому

      @@ag358 Piecing together what they said about the match-up with each other. ( they had great respect for each others game) I suspect that Margaret had a heck of a time reading young Evert's passing shots, while Chris was able to read that big serve pretty well. Chris found Margaret more predictable than King or Goolagong. Margaret learned to be very very picky about when she approached Chris and made sure that those approaches were exceptionally deep and penetrating. Court said she could not come in on anything less than a perfect approach against Evert. Fortunately for Court, she had some of the best groundstrokes of her era, so she could afford to stay back and rally longer than King, or Wade, or Goolagong. She ran side to side very well in her prime and need not worry as much as others about being trapped by Evert at the baseline. The extra patience paid dividends for Court and she began to win her share of matches. But once she slowed down after 1975, she was being jerked around and tired out just like the rest. In short Margaret figured out how to play Evert much better, but in the beginning she was totally confounded by those lobs, returns and passes.

  • @effiesaliora1910
    @effiesaliora1910 Рік тому

    My favourite player then,my favourite person still now.Pam Shriver you are always the best ❤️🥰🌹😄

  • @hamburg1306
    @hamburg1306 2 роки тому +3

    Pam was one of the first pros to use the oversized Prince racquets.

  • @tmjcbs
    @tmjcbs 4 роки тому +7

    If you play this at 1.25x speed, you get something resembling modern day tennis....

    • @ag358
      @ag358 4 роки тому +8

      If you made the modern players play with the small racket heads, you'd see 300 misshits in the first set. But roscoe tanner was clocket several times in the late 70s at over 150mph WITH A WOODEN RACKET.

    • @tmjcbs
      @tmjcbs 4 роки тому +1

      @@ag358 No doubt the move from wood to current materials and the increase in size plays a large part, but it doesn't explain it for the full 100% IMO.

    • @mooneulogy8717
      @mooneulogy8717 4 роки тому +1

      @@ag358 yea and if they were given the same amount of time to practice with them as these players, they would dominate. theyre just all around better athletes today. the game is so much faster today

    • @favabean75
      @favabean75 4 роки тому

      haha!!!

    • @favabean75
      @favabean75 4 роки тому

      omg i just tried it that's brilliant lol

  • @rolymier8659
    @rolymier8659 4 роки тому +12

    An era where tennis matches in my opinion were far more entertaining. The game and equipment may have evolved but the current baseline rallies by a majority of players certainly doesn't enthrall you as much as they did in this era. That goes for men's game as well. Oh well at least l have been around long enough to have enjoyed these matches.

    • @michaelkensington2494
      @michaelkensington2494 3 роки тому +2

      Really. This looks so boring.

    • @jigsterify
      @jigsterify 2 роки тому +2

      @@michaelkensington2494 go look up some of Chris and Martina’s battles they were very entertaining

    • @peterhammer4644
      @peterhammer4644 Рік тому +1

      @@jigsterify Graf against Navratilova are some of the best matches of all-times. There was much more athleticism in those matches than Chris vs Martina.

  • @ifluvinguiswrong
    @ifluvinguiswrong 2 роки тому +1

    I only wish the entire match was available.

  • @BurnsTennis
    @BurnsTennis 4 роки тому +3

    Anyone knows what racquet Pam Shriver is using? Could that be a graphite racquet in 1978??

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 4 роки тому +3

      No, it's the prince classic. Later came the pro; later came the graphite.

    • @BurnsTennis
      @BurnsTennis 4 роки тому

      @@uncletony6210 What materials was it? Doesn't look like wood to me.

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 4 роки тому +1

      @@BurnsTennis It was aluminum and it was the first Prince. Pam was the first player to use one on tour. Also, I forgot, somewhere between the Prince Pro and the Prince Graphite came the Prince Woodie (which I was actually playing with as recent as 2016).

    • @BurnsTennis
      @BurnsTennis 4 роки тому

      @@uncletony6210 Thanks for the info. Never heard of the Prince Woodie but just googled it. Was Pat Cash using a Prince Woodie in 1984 when he played Lendl in the US Open semi? Looks similar.

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 4 роки тому

      @@BurnsTennis No, he was using a slazenger. not many pros used the woodie. I kind of remember a Kathy Rinaldi using one, but that's about it.

  • @JW-bw8nj
    @JW-bw8nj 4 роки тому +5

    Prime Chrissy 😍

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 3 місяці тому

    Chris was fortunate she won the Open that year.
    She lost the Wimbledon final to Martina two months earlier after she was up 4-2 in the final set.
    She also lost to Navratilova in 3 sets at Eastbourne, a pre Wimbledon tournament.
    Not much separated the two rankings-wise by the time the Open started in late August.
    But Pam upset Martina in the semis and she managed to make the final a competitive one against Chris.
    Evert sealed up her 5th consecutive year as #1 by end of 1978

  • @chrisartist5155
    @chrisartist5155 2 місяці тому

    The game is so much faster now. Serving, etc.

  • @darrellclark9013
    @darrellclark9013 3 роки тому +2

    I love Pam Shriver !

  • @user-tv1le7sw2l
    @user-tv1le7sw2l 6 днів тому

    What's with Pam's table tennis groundstrokes? I remember this like it was yesterday. It's a shame Borg could never get a US Open title.

  • @ST-xg3gy
    @ST-xg3gy 8 місяців тому

    Before you give Pam hell for whatever reason, this woman made it to the finals of the US Open! That's tough to do

  • @1bcordell
    @1bcordell 4 роки тому +1

    Pam has a nice service motion. When you see it from court level you can tell she is getting some pretty good pop on it.

  • @3bzgbp7
    @3bzgbp7 4 роки тому +10

    1979 mcenroe vs gerulaitis love to see that match if you can post that match.

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 2 роки тому +1

    I thought I was the only player in the universe that the slice forehand was your main forehand, as l played at least in my high school years. EVERYBODY tried to correct me, and those wooden raquets...LOL!!..Robert at 67

  • @karlbryant9242
    @karlbryant9242 4 роки тому +9

    The classic tennis was so much better!

  • @leliondescavernes1747
    @leliondescavernes1747 4 роки тому +2

    Gottfried Tanner 78 USOPEN Connors Panatta, Walts Vilas

  • @taekim7002
    @taekim7002 4 роки тому +1

    Deception is a deep rabbit hole...

  • @drewacabu8376
    @drewacabu8376 4 роки тому +10

    now i understand why i often read about Williams have changed the game.....

    • @ImmigrationStation4U
      @ImmigrationStation4U 4 роки тому +7

      Chris Evert is one of the greatest players ever. You can only compare players with their peers. Evert dominated and faced Martina, a more formidable opponent then Serena ever faced, IMO. If Evert were playing now, with modern training, modern racquets, she would still be a champion. I feel the same way about basketball. If you took Dr. J and put him in today's NBA with modern training, he would still crush it.

    • @deepakmahajan4978
      @deepakmahajan4978 4 роки тому +6

      Chris evert faced steffi with new technology and won many matches. Same steffi defeated both sisters. So champions can compete in any era. Evert adjusted her game with new racquets.

    • @paigehere5176
      @paigehere5176 3 роки тому

      @@deepakmahajan4978 Steffi is also tied with the sisters h2h wise.

    • @paigehere5176
      @paigehere5176 3 роки тому

      @@ImmigrationStation4U Evert didn't "dominate" Martina lol h2h says other wise, her best years vs Martina's the latter had the better and more consistent peak.

    • @ImmigrationStation4U
      @ImmigrationStation4U 3 роки тому

      @@paigehere5176 I agree. I meant that she dominated AND faced Martina. Both great champions and human beings as well

  • @jddoe6919
    @jddoe6919 4 роки тому +5

    I watched the first 4 minutes & there is
    'no good' reason for Shriver to approach the net.

    • @daviddora3454
      @daviddora3454 4 роки тому +1

      JD DOE so true

    • @oscarcano8957
      @oscarcano8957 4 роки тому +5

      What else she could do? No forehand, no backhand, only slice and a good serve.

  • @andysandy97
    @andysandy97 Рік тому

    I can't believe the constant noise of the aircraft.

  • @yussepig6629
    @yussepig6629 2 роки тому

    Fun match. Chrissie really nailing the forehand DTL

  • @KaitainCPS
    @KaitainCPS 3 роки тому

    It's the movement around the court that cracks me up.

  • @TWHISPERER
    @TWHISPERER Рік тому

    You can definitely see the difference between old school 70s and once the 80s and the start of the modern era, the players in the 80s to now are faster, stronger, hit harder, although, these ladies still hit harder than some men do even back then.

  • @Honkawsuzyamal
    @Honkawsuzyamal 4 роки тому +7

    Boring? At least we are seeing plenty of volleying the lack of which doesn't make today's game more interesting

    • @JD-jc8gp
      @JD-jc8gp 4 роки тому +3

      A lot of comments here from children who think that watching two women grunting and hitting topspin shots over and over from the baseline is good tennis.

    • @nala3038
      @nala3038 4 роки тому

      J D stupid comment!

    • @frankcarbo6622
      @frankcarbo6622 4 роки тому +4

      @@nala3038 JD has got it right - miss the variety and tactics

  • @stevehansen4755
    @stevehansen4755 4 роки тому +3

    16:19 $38,000 for champion. My, times have changed!

  • @keeganthorpe
    @keeganthorpe 4 роки тому +3

    Those planes overhead!!!😳

    • @roberttrail7013
      @roberttrail7013 4 роки тому +1

      You feel like their landing and taking off in the stadium. So, annoying.

    • @nestorvilla3605
      @nestorvilla3605 4 роки тому +1

      I think those airplanes are the 9/11 airplanes!!

    • @nassauguy48
      @nassauguy48 2 роки тому

      But that accounts for the challenge presented by the US Open, and it is why many players say it is the most difficult Grand Slam to win.

  • @harrymckenzie3725
    @harrymckenzie3725 2 роки тому

    Wow fascinating the difference between their rackets

  • @leliondescavernes1747
    @leliondescavernes1747 4 роки тому +2

    Gerulaitis Tanner 79,Borg Kriek 80,pleeeaaaase

  • @qmto
    @qmto 2 роки тому

    10:09 amazing pickup, still impressive today.

  • @lenwelch2195
    @lenwelch2195 Рік тому

    Chris is hitting her groundless harder here than a year later passively just playing steady hitting off her back feet she was so nervous playing Austin.

  • @JohnLee-pt5jz
    @JohnLee-pt5jz Рік тому

    Martina Navratilova and Pam Shriver, probably one of the greatest women's doubles teams of all time.😊

  • @carseye1219
    @carseye1219 2 роки тому

    Memories sometimes plays tricks, but I didn't realize how many slice forehands Chris hit. I knew she didn't hit with a lot of top, but she's definitely cutting under the ball a lot here. Maybe just to keep the tall teen bending over.

  • @parnert5694
    @parnert5694 4 роки тому

    Tenis de nivel muy simple, en estos tiempos serian como aficionadas.

  • @gregemerson7648
    @gregemerson7648 7 місяців тому

    I heard the concord fly over

  • @lucaantonelli1511
    @lucaantonelli1511 4 роки тому +3

    Dont you see the talent, how slippery are those backspins? Shriver vs Williams 62 62

    • @mooneulogy8717
      @mooneulogy8717 4 роки тому

      yea ok. do you see those serves? they dont even leave the ground. their first serves are like todays women's second serves. any top player today would crush this era with first serves, and then proceed to break everytime on returns alone.

    • @grunchlk
      @grunchlk 3 роки тому

      @@mooneulogy8717 with those wooden rackets? Maybe not.

    • @markmauk8231
      @markmauk8231 3 роки тому

      @Luca Antonelli Maybe thats why Williams won 23 GS Singles titles and Shriver none? Yeah right, dude....

    • @thetruth65756
      @thetruth65756 2 роки тому

      LMAOOOOOOOOO

  • @jpeyton62
    @jpeyton62 4 роки тому +4

    Playing against all of Shriver's slice must have been a nightmare. The ball is either skidding or staying so low, and the second the opponent doesn't hit the ball, Shriver is at the net. Also, regarding Shriver's forehand, when she was growing up, three of the 4 were majors were on grass. The US Open moved to clay and then hardcourt when Shriver was about 10 years old, so her slice would have been an asset at Wimbledon and The Australian. Last, this reminds me of hitting with a tall junior some 15 years ago. She was lapping up the pace, and then one sliced backhand brought an error from her. Three games later and close to losing, she said curtly, "Nobody hits slice anymore. What is this..."

    • @JD-jc8gp
      @JD-jc8gp 4 роки тому +1

      Yup. The way the ball skids from her slices isn't pretty but is extremely effective. A young Shriver would destroy many contemporary players with that.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Рік тому

      Never really seemed to bother Chris.

  • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
    @user-jv9qz2bu1r 3 роки тому +1

    Chrissie's outfit by Victoria's Secret.

  • @lenwelch2195
    @lenwelch2195 2 роки тому +1

    Following year Chris was 15 pounds lighter and hit the ball 20 percent less pace . Beating Martina and tracy in tournament before the open and Wimbledon only to play like a zombie in losing to the person she just beat before each slam . Chris played her best when having lost.
    The last match against a HR player .

  • @studfinderball
    @studfinderball 3 роки тому +1

    The goofiest effective forehand of the wood racket era. Surely, the old broad hits with topspin now and a practical backhand. Although, if she only plays dubs, why switch?
    McEnroe, Shriver, and Navratilova all had chip and charge continental forehands. Their doubles records speak for themselves. I've played rec tennis for 30 years and big groundies don't win doubles.

  • @starrosborne7839
    @starrosborne7839 Рік тому

    However did they play with all those planes going over

  • @andrewbaroch2141
    @andrewbaroch2141 3 роки тому +1

    Well, the planes bodda me.

  • @preciousjey
    @preciousjey 3 роки тому +1

    Christmas Snow?

  • @chrismanteris9093
    @chrismanteris9093 5 місяців тому

    What did Chris necklace say?

  • @franklynbasa2122
    @franklynbasa2122 Рік тому +1

    Pam: Who needs a forehand anyways?😂
    She was able to milk the most of what she had..

  • @martm216
    @martm216 4 роки тому +2

    Would it be fair to say that Chrissie was one of the first, of not THE first, glamour girl of tennis - of which there are now so many?

    • @ericfreeman5795
      @ericfreeman5795 4 роки тому

      Maybe her and Evonne Goolagong. Evonne was tremendously graceful on court.

    • @martm216
      @martm216 4 роки тому +2

      @@ericfreeman5795 true, Eric. Talking of graceful, for me the most graceful ever I saw on court was Hana Mandlikova. I remember in one of her early Wimbledon appearances a commentator said you felt that even if Hana fell over, she would do it gracefully.

    • @ericfreeman5795
      @ericfreeman5795 4 роки тому

      @@martm216 You're very right about Mandlikova. I had forgotten about her.

    • @regworld1167
      @regworld1167 4 роки тому +1

      Sue Barker .

    • @martm216
      @martm216 4 роки тому

      @@ericfreeman5795 👍

  • @iwnunn7999
    @iwnunn7999 3 роки тому +1

    Pam had a weird slice forehand

  • @ricog4192
    @ricog4192 4 роки тому +2

    Pam is holding a ball in one hand and playing tennis at the same time 😂

    • @JD-jc8gp
      @JD-jc8gp 4 роки тому +3

      Common at the time.

    • @KaitainCPS
      @KaitainCPS 3 роки тому

      Used to be fairly standard. Especially as very few players played the double-handed backhand (let alone a DH forehand).

  • @timez32
    @timez32 4 роки тому +5

    Pam Shriver looks poor posture. Chris's posture always is good.

  • @namispondjamispond9282
    @namispondjamispond9282 3 роки тому +5

    This was a final. I would have loved to have seen a first round match. Must have been like watching paint dry.

  • @tarekdahab2547
    @tarekdahab2547 4 роки тому

    The video quality is as if it was in 2019 not forty years earlier, did the original video enhanced by artificial intelligence neural network filtering?

  • @seand67
    @seand67 3 роки тому

    Look at that huge Prince tennis racket!!!

  • @trotfi9505
    @trotfi9505 2 роки тому

    The first serve shown at 0.15 / 0.16 is well long and not called a fault, LOL.

  • @jimmybrice6360
    @jimmybrice6360 4 роки тому +1

    boy, billie and martina as a doubles team ? not sure i could come up with a better team than that !!

  • @stwaters1147
    @stwaters1147 6 місяців тому

    The environment back then was so much more cleaner

  • @johnnieachaya1980
    @johnnieachaya1980 3 роки тому +1

    Chris Everton is a pretty lady

  • @artamerican
    @artamerican 4 роки тому +1

    Back then, they dont hit forehand backhand with a spin, just plain and flat

  • @harimurtono2936
    @harimurtono2936 3 роки тому

    Dear usta would you please posting some of barbara potter video please :)

  • @mkbaharris
    @mkbaharris 4 роки тому +9

    aint that the worst forehand you've ever seen in a GS final!

    • @adamlarsson3828
      @adamlarsson3828 4 роки тому +2

      what on earth is going on with that? was pro tennis really /that bad/ with regard to mechanics back then? it is beyond shocking.

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 4 роки тому

      see Vitas Gerulatis 1979.

    • @cindygirlification
      @cindygirlification 4 роки тому +1

      They didn’t have polyester strings and carbon fibre racket’s . Slice was very effective with the old equipment . Jimmy Connors made the semifinals in 91 playing primarily slice shots.

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 4 роки тому

      @@cindygirlification Connors never sliced a ball in his life.

    • @mkbaharris
      @mkbaharris 4 роки тому

      @@cindygirlification lol are you kidding about Connors hitting slice! yeah he could slice, but his career was built on flat drives! I think Bjorn Borg did great hitting all that topspin in the 70s lol so the tech you refer to is quite capable of several playing styles

  • @hamzaa.8082
    @hamzaa.8082 4 роки тому +6

    Back when women had normal testosterone level

  • @wtfa2910
    @wtfa2910 4 роки тому +2

    Venus williams vs Lindsay davenport 2004 plz

  • @petea1918
    @petea1918 Рік тому

    Chris and Pam wouldn’t survive playing the ladies of today. The ladies of today hit the ball much harder and play more various shots, as apposed to just returning the ball

  • @JchaseMusicTv
    @JchaseMusicTv 4 роки тому

    At 3:35 she says the court isn't even...that's terrible

  • @Smudgeroon74
    @Smudgeroon74 2 роки тому

    Who's the other female commentator on this match? Not Virginia Wade

    • @grunchlk
      @grunchlk 9 місяців тому

      Billie Jean King 👑