So awesome man!! Just one thing coming from a drummer, a paradiddle is a pattern which is played RLRRLRLL. What you're referring to is ghost notes i believe. Love your work mate. Respect from Australia
AHHHH, See, I do keep mentioning that i'm not a trained musician lol. I will totally take your words for it. I should have fact checked better. Its just what I have always called em. I have heard conflicting explanations on ghost notes. Marley Marl seems to describe them as the bu bums. i.e 16th note accent kicks and snares. I am trying to refer to the little light roll things that are used to riff things up. Sorry Im probably not explaining myself very well.
@@Sispex Yep, gotcha. I think that's just called a roll or a drag. I'm only just getting back into drumming myself. A diddle is played RRLLRRLL, but can also be just played RR or LL, so that's what you're describing. I know exactly what you mean but not 100% on what it's called lol. Anyways, once again I love your work man, videos are always top notch. The bitcrushing to soften the hats was a dope tip, totally makes sense.
When I first saw you on rhythm roulette, I was like nerdy dude makin beats, cool! But the way you approach to the sound, it is nerdy as fxxk and I love that!
That's exactly what i've ended up to do my break beats.Addictive drums 2, Abbey road 70's and 60's drums + RC-20, abbey road vynil+ some guitare amps, compressor, etc...
Super cool video. I think bit reduction works because it evokes the feelings of those vintage vinyl breaks being sampled with those old sampling machines, that pioneer producers used back in the day.
I also think that we are familiar with so many breaks through the ultimate breaks and beats series and they always had this really great 12 bit sound to them. I just think the main objective with bit crushing is to add some distortion and take away from the high levels of detail that can be inherent in virtual drums. Even the vintage ones.
Dat Intro!!! I do this very rarely, in fact I just cleared a lot of subs a few weeks ago, but man. That intro made me insta sub. Can't wait for the video, because I was thinking about just that for a few days.
Please. Where are pts 1 and 3? I'm going insane. Love the content and depth. You have single handedly allowed me to use AD2 for what I bought it for. Please share any more kit presets you've come up with. These are as valuable as drum kits! You are king Barry!
Well For me in order I have to give top spot to J Dilla (no offence) then a very close second, 9th wonder but it’s because I grew up on these guys I’ve kinda discovered your stuff recently in the last 2years, and I’m so impressed and somewhat awe stricken by your methods and sounds so I’m very glad to say 3rd with Stro Elliot and then 4th is Iman Omari and 5th Flying lotus (older stuff before he went mad trippy 😆 ( notice some producers are hard to separate so there’s a few joints)
@@prod.SharlieBlikesEarlGreyT Ha no offence taken whatsoever. JD has gotta be one of the most innovative. and progressive producers of all time! to only be 3 away from Dilla is a mighty compliment. Humbled!
Thanks Moss, Those funky drummer clone drums you played sounded excellent man. Post a link of them on here mate so people can check em out and hear someone elses 'Fake' Breaks! But yea, Addictive drums is really ace man. I am looking to check out superior drummer as well soon so will report back on those.
If you were to purchase Barry’s Ultimate Fakes and beats vol 1-4 then you could get close as it provides multiple one shots of each drum hit at different velocities. The packs are available on my bandcamp page. Just search sispexakabarrybeats on bandcamp.
@@Flux_One Thanks man. Yeah my friend Fanu who releases drum and bass on metal heads has used em a bunch. I do a big discount on my full discography but not just the packs i’m afraid. They are pretty cheap to be fair.
Soo good. I am totally on the same trip for some time. I just wondered if you ever thought about getting those add2 channels out separate and use 3rd party plugins Ableton stock to fine-tune even more? This totally opened up another heap of possibilities to me. Since then I literally spend most of my time just fiddling on the drums. It's amazing.
Hey man, Sometimes if I want to just process an individual element I will duplicate the channel and separate that element to process. I should just look at spitting them out of Add2 directly I suppose lol
Dude if had a proper version of my daw with a porper version on Kontact and those vintage drums kits i'd rip, but there seems to be some kind of money investment wall.
Addictive drums is newer and although I think that XO appears gimmicky to me (someone who is obsessive about organizing their sample library to maximize efficiency) I own RC20 and think it's the best retro colour/character/texture vst on the market. Addictive trigger is calling my name, and Addictive drums has been calling my name for awhile. Also thanksgiving/black Friday is only about a month from now and between then and the new year almost every audio production software developer gives the veterans their rewards for being patient all year, and also the vets get their chance to use the Simpsons nelson reference to point and laugh at the weak willed people who paid full price for what in many cases the vets are paying half that.
To be honest i just use em in stereo. I guess It could be interesting to split out different drum channels, especially if doing more hip hop stuff. Thing is so far I haven't really felt the need as you can process the drums so much inside addictive drums. I suppose if there is one thing that could be a bit better inside ADD2 is the EQ. Might be nice to EQ the drums separately. I just worry that if you start messing about too much with individual elements the drums might not sit together so nicely.
@@Sispex I've found that when you use the multi output you do sometimes do lose the vibe a bit, but not sure exactly why, something to do with the routing and the internal fx. I would also like to see better eq inside, it would be great if you could add 3rd party plugins to their channels. I use Acustica Audio plug-ins that use convolution to emulate vintage eqs and desks, they sound amazing!
So which set of addictive drums 2 should I buy to have the same presets as you? Would the custom deal or custom xl do or would I have to buy the full version
Si Spex Barry these drums are on sale finally. I couldn’t find that Modern Jazz Bundle - Rare Recordings pack you mentioned. If you had to choose for fake breaks what would you get for this: “select any 6 ADpaks, any 6 MIDIpaks, and any 6 Kitpiece paks of your choice.”
Yo Barry. If you had to choose between the Abbey Road Decades collection or a 3 kit starter pack from Addictive Drums2… which set would you choose? I’m making breaks too, been eyeing both… which do you think is better (knowing both seem awesome).
Huuuummmm, I would probably have to say AD 2 purely because it is so more editable. I would def suggest the jazz set as one of your kits. The thing is you would also have the power to upgrade to more kits one you have made the initial investment. Abbey roads are great but they are harder to totally change the sound of them. And you probably wouldn’t get that much from the 80s one lol. Don’t forget the joy of programming fake breaks like these is you can easily copy the midi and layer other drums, reverbs,textures etc to also switch em up.
@@Sispex Yo. Thanks for the reply/advice. I've been leaning in the AD2 direction. Loving it so far (playing with the demo which comes with a limited Fairfax). Thinking about going with the R&B Soul, The Black Oyster (sounds very Motown), and the Modern Jazz Sticks to start. * Sidenote: Picked up Molodyne 5 Editor while it was on sale to do some harmony extraction (I'm on FL & Reaper so not able to do it through Ableton). Whooooo hooo hooo it's nice! Pretty accurate. **Side, side note... Izotope's RX 8 has a Music Rebalance feature that splits out the Drums, Vocals (legit accapellas!), Bass, and other Instruments with the click of a button. Doing that before harmony extraction is super dope & it would work well for extracting any drum breaks you want too (that way you don't have to find an open break). Ahhh yea!
I had my drummer friend that has done a lot of recordings over the years do the test. He said he was able to spot 2 and 3 as fake pretty easily, but he wasn’t sure about 1 and 4. I wasn’t able to spot the fakes though.
Si Spex I think you did a great job. The guy who took the test has drummed for 30 years and is a pretty amazing musician. To get anything by a person like that is a real accomplishment! I’ve been listening to your album on Spotify today. Great stuff.
“If it says tape saturation, just whack it up” words to live by !!
I guessed Real, fake, fake, real. That last one was really good!! :)
Breaks sounding real good here man! A king of modern breaks is born.
Hey thanks Fanu! Im really glad you liked em mate. Hope you are well and trust you have been pretty busy during the current period.
love your style, laid back and informative without dragging and your passion and expertise are clear
So awesome man!! Just one thing coming from a drummer, a paradiddle is a pattern which is played RLRRLRLL. What you're referring to is ghost notes i believe. Love your work mate. Respect from Australia
@@dj7ply ikr, I fucked up. I still want him to call them paradiddles lol. Sorry guys 🤷♂️
AHHHH, See, I do keep mentioning that i'm not a trained musician lol. I will totally take your words for it. I should have fact checked better. Its just what I have always called em. I have heard conflicting explanations on ghost notes. Marley Marl seems to describe them as the bu bums. i.e 16th note accent kicks and snares. I am trying to refer to the little light roll things that are used to riff things up. Sorry Im probably not explaining myself very well.
@@Sispex Yep, gotcha. I think that's just called a roll or a drag. I'm only just getting back into drumming myself. A diddle is played RRLLRRLL, but can also be just played RR or LL, so that's what you're describing. I know exactly what you mean but not 100% on what it's called lol. Anyways, once again I love your work man, videos are always top notch. The bitcrushing to soften the hats was a dope tip, totally makes sense.
These are just called doubles, or a double stroke.
@@Sispex You can play ghost notes on any part of the kit.
Epic, big up ones chest sir! Much love from Watergate Bay
Great video man!
When I first saw you on rhythm roulette, I was like nerdy dude makin beats, cool! But the way you approach to the sound, it is nerdy as fxxk and I love that!
Im looking for this kind of a Video quiet a while, thx g
I've shaved all facial hair except my mustache in honour of these new videos. Although I'm also rocking a soul patch
man you are like the super hero of beats
loved this vid,
Wondered what you been upto,Barry beats i say kneeling and taking my hat off!
Fair fucking play fella,amazing shit bruva
Hey thanks man! Sorry my output is slow but I have a busy old life, even under lockdown lol
damn all of thoes sick drums got sample it
Nice. Learning some new tricks! I’ve done this style before. I always called it De-Mastering!
very belatedly i guessed 1 and 4 - 4 has some detailing that meant I was really surprised when you said it was a DIY break.
That's exactly what i've ended up to do my break beats.Addictive drums 2, Abbey road 70's and 60's drums + RC-20, abbey road vynil+ some guitare amps, compressor, etc...
Lovely stuff! Cheers!
Lovely stuff!
Top notch once again. A few things I knew and a few I didnt. So cheers pet x
Thank you Barry for your good work!! That toilet paper though :)
He probly flogged it for 50 quid after this was recorded
Happy to see I wasn't the only noticing the odd in the picture.
Important bit of studio kit, that
Barry knocking out Boom Faps beats
Dude i love you
good stuff Barry!
Always great videos
Swear i got it!! I thought maybe nr.4.. but nahh
Swear i got it!! 😂
Super cool video. I think bit reduction works because it evokes the feelings of those vintage vinyl breaks being sampled with those old sampling machines, that pioneer producers used back in the day.
I also think that we are familiar with so many breaks through the ultimate breaks and beats series and they always had this really great 12 bit sound to them. I just think the main objective with bit crushing is to add some distortion and take away from the high levels of detail that can be inherent in virtual drums. Even the vintage ones.
I Learned Something & You Inspired Me To Crank Up My Old Maschine2, I Like That Abbey Road Vinyl Plugin 👍🏻
I gave myself a biscuit!
Dat Intro!!! I do this very rarely, in fact I just cleared a lot of subs a few weeks ago, but man. That intro made me insta sub. Can't wait for the video, because I was thinking about just that for a few days.
Love this guy
Please. Where are pts 1 and 3? I'm going insane. Love the content and depth. You have single handedly allowed me to use AD2 for what I bought it for. Please share any more kit presets you've come up with. These are as valuable as drum kits! You are king Barry!
Nice "pseudo breaks" Barry! Definitely learned a lot of new stuff again.
Great job. You’d like Tympo if you don’t have it
nice! thanks man :)
MORE GEMS
Mad respect!!
Awesome!!!
Definitely could tell which were fakes but pretty convincing! Great work
Bro you are too good at this.... you are in my top 5 favourite producers keep it up man I’m learning so much from you 👊🏾👊🏾
Wow, thanks man! You got me curious now who I am sharing this top 5 with!
Well For me in order I have to give top spot to J Dilla (no offence) then a very close second, 9th wonder but it’s because I grew up on these guys I’ve kinda discovered your stuff recently in the last 2years, and I’m so impressed and somewhat awe stricken by your methods and sounds so I’m very glad to say 3rd with Stro Elliot and then 4th is Iman Omari and 5th Flying lotus (older stuff before he went mad trippy 😆 ( notice some producers are hard to separate so there’s a few joints)
@@prod.SharlieBlikesEarlGreyT Ha no offence taken whatsoever. JD has gotta be one of the most innovative. and progressive producers of all time! to only be 3 away from Dilla is a mighty compliment. Humbled!
Yo beat science with Barry
Top notch ...
Thumbs up just for the intro!
Are you really from Cornwall?? I'm a big rap fan and it amazes me a dope beat maker lives here
whattttt i thought the first one for sure is fake bc of the knock on the kick and the reverb loool
that was top banana, thanks (I think I will have a cream tea now!)
Remember Cream on first, then Jam!!!
I love ❤️ these videos
Lol, I have a roll of TP on my desk setup as well. 😂
I called it, you didn't do enough to vary the cymbals imo.
I love how and what you do. Thanks man!
Cheers man
Brill videos bud, I've been using the AR60s Kontakt kit for awhile but AD2 looks really great too for that crust
Thanks Moss, Those funky drummer clone drums you played sounded excellent man. Post a link of them on here mate so people can check em out and hear someone elses 'Fake' Breaks! But yea, Addictive drums is really ace man. I am looking to check out superior drummer as well soon so will report back on those.
Just nonchalantly having Craig G spitting a verse on the
Exactly
Great vid, but could you do it with one shots from a random mixture of samplepacks??? 🧐
If you were to purchase Barry’s Ultimate Fakes and beats vol 1-4 then you could get close as it provides multiple one shots of each drum hit at different velocities. The packs are available on my bandcamp page. Just search sispexakabarrybeats on bandcamp.
@@Sispex Ha I just listened to all of them. Very cool. Some would work brilliantly for some old school Jungle tracks. Do you sell pack bundles?
@@Flux_One Thanks man. Yeah my friend Fanu who releases drum and bass on metal heads has used em a bunch. I do a big discount on my full discography but not just the packs i’m afraid. They are pretty cheap to be fair.
Soo good. I am totally on the same trip for some time. I just wondered if you ever thought about getting those add2 channels out separate and use 3rd party plugins Ableton stock to fine-tune even more? This totally opened up another heap of possibilities to me. Since then I literally spend most of my time just fiddling on the drums. It's amazing.
Hey man, Sometimes if I want to just process an individual element I will duplicate the channel and separate that element to process. I should just look at spitting them out of Add2 directly I suppose lol
Dope.
I've been doing this for ages. :)
Oh cool man, would love to hear some. Feel free to drop some links!
So this is all Waves
Drums are mainly addictive drums 2 with lots of plug-in processing including waves ones. I use a lot of the Abbey Road ones.
Barry i LOVE the sound of your drums...LOVE..great work
ur the best man
I'd call them "Virtual Breaks"
Yea, Virtual breaks is Perfect! Its a bit late to re-name the vids now though. Might have to coin this in future though.
Pretty awesome grooves) But can you tell more detail about the programming of the drums?
Word to your Motherboard
I thought the 3 break was fake and the 4th was real. The 4th is real....I mean REALLY dope
Freddie Mercury is now making 70s beats LOL
Creators
What’s the bog roll for?
Private internet time😮
Certainly not. It's primerily used to keep my equipment clean.
When the breaks get dirty wipe em with the TP
BARRY, can we see a REAL BREAKS tutorial :D
Dude if had a proper version of my daw with a porper version on Kontact and those vintage drums kits i'd rip, but there seems to be some kind of money investment wall.
Addictive drums is newer and although I think that XO appears gimmicky to me (someone who is obsessive about organizing their sample library to maximize efficiency) I own RC20 and think it's the best retro colour/character/texture vst on the market. Addictive trigger is calling my name, and Addictive drums has been calling my name for awhile.
Also thanksgiving/black Friday is only about a month from now and between then and the new year almost every audio production software developer gives the veterans their rewards for being patient all year, and also the vets get their chance to use the Simpsons nelson reference to point and laugh at the weak willed people who paid full price for what in many cases the vets are paying half that.
where do we get that plugin?
So grateful for your videos Barry! Respect. Sub from me.
This was a Masterclass! Thanks man! Quick question, when you are using Addictive Drums, do you a stereo version or multi output?
To be honest i just use em in stereo. I guess It could be interesting to split out different drum channels, especially if doing more hip hop stuff. Thing is so far I haven't really felt the need as you can process the drums so much inside addictive drums. I suppose if there is one thing that could be a bit better inside ADD2 is the EQ. Might be nice to EQ the drums separately. I just worry that if you start messing about too much with individual elements the drums might not sit together so nicely.
@@Sispex I've found that when you use the multi output you do sometimes do lose the vibe a bit, but not sure exactly why, something to do with the routing and the internal fx. I would also like to see better eq inside, it would be great if you could add 3rd party plugins to their channels. I use Acustica Audio plug-ins that use convolution to emulate vintage eqs and desks, they sound amazing!
Making your own breaks/loops means never worrying about clearing a sample. $$$
So which set of addictive drums 2 should I buy to have the same presets as you? Would the custom deal or custom xl do or would I have to buy the full version
Since I'm running on a bit of a budget here, which three addictive drums drum sets would you recommend?
I think jazz sticks is good
Whack it up. 👍🏻
Wow, really thought the first one was purely from the DAW. I thought it was a great try though!
The first one was the only one NOT from a DAW lol. The other 3 were all DAW drums.
@@Sispex I would not get great marks if this were a test. Cheers for the videos by the way.
Awesome! What are your top three kits if I buy Addictive Drums?
Can I get back to you on that in a bit?
Si Spex No problem! Much appreciated.
Si Spex Barry these drums are on sale finally. I couldn’t find that Modern Jazz Bundle - Rare Recordings pack you mentioned.
If you had to choose for fake breaks what would you get for this: “select any 6 ADpaks, any 6 MIDIpaks, and any 6 Kitpiece paks of your choice.”
I call it Alternate Breaks and Beats. ;)
Nice
Yo Barry. If you had to choose between the Abbey Road Decades collection or a 3 kit starter pack from Addictive Drums2… which set would you choose?
I’m making breaks too, been eyeing both… which do you think is better (knowing both seem awesome).
Huuuummmm, I would probably have to say AD 2 purely because it is so more editable. I would def suggest the jazz set as one of your kits. The thing is you would also have the power to upgrade to more kits one you have made the initial investment. Abbey roads are great but they are harder to totally change the sound of them. And you probably wouldn’t get that much from the 80s one lol. Don’t forget the joy of programming fake breaks like these is you can easily copy the midi and layer other drums, reverbs,textures etc to also switch em up.
@@Sispex Yo. Thanks for the reply/advice. I've been leaning in the AD2 direction. Loving it so far (playing with the demo which comes with a limited Fairfax). Thinking about going with the R&B Soul, The Black Oyster (sounds very Motown), and the Modern Jazz Sticks to start.
* Sidenote: Picked up Molodyne 5 Editor while it was on sale to do some harmony extraction (I'm on FL & Reaper so not able to do it through Ableton). Whooooo hooo hooo it's nice! Pretty accurate.
**Side, side note... Izotope's RX 8 has a Music Rebalance feature that splits out the Drums, Vocals (legit accapellas!), Bass, and other Instruments with the click of a button. Doing that before harmony extraction is super dope & it would work well for extracting any drum breaks you want too (that way you don't have to find an open break). Ahhh yea!
i dislike it but i got myself that biscuit.
Call it a pseudo break
And I love how bad you are on a keyboard!
I had my drummer friend that has done a lot of recordings over the years do the test. He said he was able to spot 2 and 3 as fake pretty easily, but he wasn’t sure about 1 and 4.
I wasn’t able to spot the fakes though.
Ha, thats great, Im not really expecting to pull the wool over real experienced drummers eyes (or ears) 1 BTW is the real drum break but 4 is fake
Si Spex I think you did a great job. The guy who took the test has drummed for 30 years and is a pretty amazing musician. To get anything by a person like that is a real accomplishment! I’ve been listening to your album on Spotify today. Great stuff.
WTF? :D 20:20