Well, with how you presented the black dragon ecology documentary, I think you have a pretty great grasp of Monster Hunter. Do tell us about your movie ideas!
Yea and your ideas are spectacular. The way you told that "Monster Hunter redacted" story was top notch and would have been a glorious movie in its own right. So I'm very down to hear how you would adapt Monster Hunter.
The director gets so much worse, he actually caused an extra to get crushed to death by an SUV only 3 months after what happened to Olivia Jackson. Also, its not that the refused to pay, he LIED about having insurance on the actors when he DIDN'T
Legit, when they started acting like the Hunters were a bunch of savages, that just straight pissed me off. Dude, these guys hunt for a LIVING. The actual games have massive guns and technology that is on par with our industrial age. Out of date? Somewhat, but still far from that...whatever they thought it was. Hell, I'm almost certain most hunters could read, or else they wouldn't be able to take on requests from a board.
Movie tonally was so far off from actual Monster Hunter games, it was jarring as hell. The MH setting is pretty optimistically cheesy and cheery despite being centered on killing increasingly dangerous monsters until you're fighting ones of apocalyptical-causing levels of power.
WWII veterans actually did something important. Jesus social media has poisoned y’all’s mind about soldiers. The army now might not be as it was but back then the soldiers actually cared about people and it was to free Jews. How is that bad??
@@eli2210 who? What? Where? Who said something about soldiers doing something bad? What? I was bringing awareness to the horrors of war and how many veterans are mentally scared for life. It's called PTSD.
It's not a comparison. I was making use of the literary device called a metaphor to emphazise my point. There is even a bit of a hyperbole in there if you read carefully. You should've learned that in school.@user-bq5np8zb2r
The best premise to a monster hunter movie would a nature documentary with occasional peaks into the culture of the different villages and interviews with random hunters.
“I’m just a guy” Says the man who made the most harrowing and emotion stimulating story about a hunter dealing with the ramifications of both encountering, fighting, and KILLING walking natural disasters
I don't understand how they failed so spectacularly making this film. It should've been a slam dunk for the writers, MH games have the most basic story ever because it's an outlet to showcase new monsters, why couldn't that have been the same in the movie? You can have a classic heroes journey with some dude training to become a hunter as he hunts progressively harder and more dangerous monsters. The movie ends with him overcoming a new elder dragon threat like the games. Keep the story simple, the action good, have good special effects, and that would've been a fine adaption. The isekai element was wholly unnecessary. John Wick proves that having a deep and intricate story isn't 100% necessary for a good action film, just have good looking monsters, good action scenes, and give us a little information on the guild.
Tbf, having a hunter in the movies hunt multiple monsters would take up a LOT of screen time if you want the monsters to actually feel like monsters from the verse and not just "another movie monster". I'd personally much prefer a hunt against one monster (as in the animated movie "Legends of the Guild" that released the same year iirc) where you get to see some prep work, traps being set and used, the monster absolutely fucking the main characters up and then a bunch of tracking down of the monster. THAT to me feels like the essence of what the games TRY to evoke when veering into more realistic territory, and that should really be the baseline of what happens. If you really feel like you'd pad out the runtime in the movie, I'd argue having 2 or 3 monsters to hunt could also work, but finding reasons for the main character to hunt them all could be...hard. Alternatively you can also just have the movie follow an established hunter who straight up just accepts 3 different quests throughout the movie. Fuck the storyline of the movie, just show me the prep-work, the ecology, the note taking, the crafting, all that shit in a movie format. Oh, and especially the monsters looking bad-ass.
If they had to keep Artemis and the Isekai bit, then make the army dudes like the first ten minutes max; establish that there's nothing for Artemis to come back to, and have the rest of the movie using Artemis' complete incompatibility with the series / fish-out-of-water status to actually explore monster hunter's lighthearted tone and insane but still grounded logic. (Insane as in the hunters can physically use the greatsword, but grounded as it's the slowest weapon in the game). Have the movie be about Artemis figuring out her place in this strange new world she's found herself in!
@@Attaxalotl If they really wanted to keep the Isekai angle, I think they had the right idea in that everyone except Artemis needs to die immediately to show the 'threat' of the monsters, but then the Artemis should've been rescued into a village or something where she can properly learn hunting, and not get stuck with just one dude. She can then meet another isekai character (similar to Ron Pearlman) who can break it down to basics how things work without being a cynical ass. Cue training montage, she takes on harder and harder monsters, before the movie ends with her killing Diablos as revenge for her team and becoming a HR hunter. If they really really wanted a trilogy, the groundwork is there. First film is her basic learning, finishes LR and achieves HR. Second film is HR and fighting an elder dragon at the end. Final film is MR and facing off against entirely new monster, maybe some 'black dragon' where you can have your dramatic showdown. But once again, I think starting you off in the MH world already in the shoes of an actual character in the world and not isekai would lend itself more to the narrative. You can explain the world to the viewer by having the MC have to explain the history of the guild or something for a final test, then the plot starts.
I agree with Cory, the basic ideas even gave a foundation for multiple movies, because as doom doot says, multiple hunt will take too much screen time, so, just make it multiple movies, start from learning the basics to a small hunt, then gradually ascend to finally na elder dragon threat, that should enough to be 3-5 movies
The one thing I was thinking throughout the movie was "oh god this is painful to watch, but I really want to see the inevitable scene in which they're gonna use Proof of a hero" I've never been so disappointed by anything
As a guy that mains insect glaive and started monster hunter in 4u it hurts my soul of how they handled nerscylla and gore magala and how the insect glaive doesn't having it's defining feature
@@legomaster2538 It was better than the MH movie (not a high bar to jump over) but I still wasn't satisfied with it. To be honest, they kinda hard nerfed every weapon shown in Legends of the Guild. Dual blades with no demon mode, glaive with much more limited air mobility, switch axe barely even got screen time to get into amped state, and heavy bowgun literally had 1 ammo. The story itself was serviceable at least, but the way everything felt so neutered compared to the games bothered me throughout the whole movie.
I think it's still serviceable. I mean, it's by no means a groundbreaking movie, but they still nailed tons of details of the games; the goofy humour, the Monster/Weapon animations, the characters, the looks, etc. The weapon movesets could've been more fleshed out, but imo they showed off kinda well how a Monster Hunter Hunt could look like in a "real life" or movie setting. I think it's unneccessary to expect that they display every single little nuance of every weapons moveset, that's not what a movie should be about. They could have sprinkled in such details from time to time if it had been a series with more episodes.
Bro, I don't have a main... And the way they used explosives on an arrow mortifies me til this day. (Atleast use slime/blast element coating, or use a small barrel bomb) And don't get me started with both the gs and db on this movie.
Me and my 2 Monster Hunter-fan friends were the only people in the theater showing it. When Jovovich’s character carved something off of the Black Diablos, we said “She carved! That’s probably the closest thing we’ll get to the games in this movie!” and started clapping and cheering loudly.
The think the funniest thing they nearly got right was the hunter dude. One of the things MH has going for it is its goofy charm. The games mainly get serious near the end when you start dealing with BBEM, but most other times the characters are exaggerated and full of life. Heck even your hunter has the comedic flare in hunts, between the goofy run while fleeing in combat, or the ol chug and flex of older games. It's a world that doesn't take itself too seriously until it needs to.
i came across the monster hunter movie on tv the other day. i was ranting to my sister how bad it was and i was also very excited pointing out locations ad talking about lore from the games
Oh yeah, I watched it with my family and all I could do was mention how, “oh, that isn’t nercylla”, or “Rathalos isn’t only weak when he breathes fire”
I watched this with my mother and she got a little annoyed because of me complaining about it 😂 and I'm not a veteran in monster Hunter I was introduced to it in monster Hunter world, and ever since then I learned a lot more stuff about the series obviously. I just really hope they don't make another movie. I do hope if they make another one, make someone else do it who actually knows what they're doing. It would be easier to get fans of the series that come up with an idea about who are veterans or at the very least know a lot about the series .
@@zimdorthegodofpower7955 The thing is with Capcom for some reason. Every single Live Action Movie Project that they have always flop, either because it's Paul W.S Anderson or another Complications. But their CG Movie Collection on the other hand, you can say it was a Success, which boggles my mind sometimes, like it felt like they deliberately trying to actually makes their fans Hated Hollywood LA Adaptation for some reason.
@@Azazantei Pretty sure they just don't care about them. They literaly do nothing but "supervise" them. It's literally free money from licensing and free advertising, with them barely getting involved outside of the bare minimum effort they put into supervision.
they couldve just made artemis a local in the mh universe, like maybe her village got decimated by a monster, or she's a new hunter but suddenly got given a huge responisbility that she has to overcome. but no, they had to make it an isekai american white saviour story that makes 0 sense also as a db main, the fact that they made demon mode as this actual fantasy power up instead of an internal power up where the user focuses on their strength that it makes them stronger and faster makes me so mad. but what did i expect from the creator that thinks diablos is a predator monster that the real mh staff had to step in and force him to change diablos' claws
@@asquri5959 wait what for which part coz im gonna assume the diablos one. basically he first made the diablos' claw to look sharp and pointed much like a predatory animal until fujioka kaname (arts director of mhw) had to step in to say that its innacurate due to diablos being a herbivore and a sand-burrowing creature
Demon mode is clearly, beyond any reasonable doubt, supernatural in nature. Much like Longsword's spirit moves and Hunting Horn's music. The obsession some fans have to ignore all the clearly supernatural elements in MH because they don't like the idea of the setting being "magical" is fairly pointless.
@@lumendrake2265my cope on this is that it’s bio energy/kinship. If you weren’t already familiar with kinship, it’s an energy in mhst that charges up as the fight progresses ( hitting attacks, pulling off head to heads, healing,). Kinship can be utilized by telling your monstie partner to use abilities or you yourself the rider can use it for abilities. Hunters in mhst2 can also use kinship to pull off powerful attacks. So my theory is that stuff like demon mode and the spirit nonsense for long sword is just building up kinship/bio energy and using it for these abilities.
Also I remember hearing that someone died in the unsafe stunt for the last resident evil movie he made, I didn't realize they only lost their arm, the fact he was fighting against paying for hospital bills is insane
No, someone did die. AN extra was crushed by an SUV. And Olivia Jackson didn't just lose her arm, her FACE was degloved (if you don't know what that means, don't look it up. Its best you don't know) and she has permanent nerve damage
@Elk yo why isnt paul w s Anderson in prison he got one person killed and the other got their arm chopped off and barely made it out with half of their face. Wtf
@@azenar1894 Him not being in jail is especially baffling when you realize the reason he didn't want to give the payout was because he lied about putting insurance on the actors. That's straight up fraud.
As soon as I saw the military I knew it was going to be garbage. We need more people that are fans or at least respect the source material to make movies, this was to easy to mess up.
The fact that this film was directed by the same man who was responsible for the Resident Evil films makes a little too much sense. I heard that and instantly went like, "Okay, yup, that explains a lot".
Definitely laughed out loud when you were like "it's so much worse". I have no idea who this movie was made for--if you're not a monhun fan, it's just okay, and if you are a monhun fan, it's just so insanely at odds with the tone & appeal of the series for most players. The monsters are the stars of the game!!! And they don't even get them right, the most important part!!! I could forgive a cheesy plot if the monsters were good (i really like Legends of the Guild), but man.
I'm not much of a movie goer, I did like the first 2 live action films for the RE series the director of this shiz made. (It was atleast a decent adaptation... But everything went down after that...) Meanwhile my dad likes B-grade movies and old classics like, terminator, the blob, etc... And he knows the premise of the games being "Hunting Monsters"... And you know what... Both of us are disappointed and mortified on how bad the movie is. And just like he said "I'd rather watch the predator movies than rewatch this." And I couldn't agree more.
I remember having a conversation with a relative who jokingly rented this film to see my reaction when I watched it. I told them "this film has nothing to make fun of" for the sake of being polite. Not long after did they realize what I actually meant with those words summed up as "there was nothing make fun of.... because there was literally nothing at all in the film aside from an unsubtle focus on Anderson's wife being in Walmart-budget cosplay"
The depiction of the monsters in this movie tend to be split between people genuinely liking them or hating them even worse than World Lavasioth. I’m very much on the latter side. For the Diablos, it is imo the least offending monster in the movie. It gets mad, and attacks things by smashing into them; you cannot mess that up. Yet they still find a way to. It is _irritatingly_ slow in the movie. Like, finding footage of Diablos in-game and slowing it down to 0.25x speed levels of slow. And I think that is the reprecussion of making the monsters ~2x bigger than they should be, since both it and Rathalos have that issue. Nerscylla is treated the worst in this movie. Not only does it barely resemble its in-game counterpart, it also acts completely different. Having them be a dumb swarm of The Mist spiders just makes them completely into evil movie villains, when the original in-game monster was just an animal fulfilling its part of the food chain. Why do they live in massive swarms? So their immense numbers and resource requirements could wipe out the local ecosystem and thus SD themselves? How can such a large swarm live in the desert? Do they filter their food from the sand, or photosynthesize their energy into existance (Obviously not the latter, because for some reason they _can’t_ tolerate sunlight - something basic insects in the real world can do easily)? There is a reason why the biggest eusocial animals in MH proper are the barely human-sized Neopterons. And why in the love of god do they lay eggs in living prey? So a fire-based prey item can cook an entire generation of them for free? Having them be parasitic for the sake of “scary evil insect!” is the dumbest decision they can make. It makes no sense lore-wise, ecology-wise, and works only to completely disrespect the source material that so graciously let them put their filthy mid-movie conjuring paws all over it. It makes the same amount of sense as a live-action Marvel movie having Spiderman lay his brood in the chest cavity of a random civillian. F* off with that. For Rathalos, a lot of people call the “hit here to explode” weakness a cool quirk the movie added. But it isn’t. If all you need to kill an _apex predator_ is to release enough heat at a very commonly occuring window of time, then every fire element monster ever would 1v1 it. Freaking Kut-ku, the Rath slayer. That quirk is just another dumb gimmick they invented on the spot to rob time out of actually featuring the monsters of _Monster Hunter,_ and instead focus screen time into “random military person walking across large stretches of land.” Not to mention if _heat_ were to insta-kill a Rathalos, then what is stopping the _flames it shoots out from its weakpoint_ from killing it? And the biggest flaw of the movie is that it turns the series staple of long, 15 - 20 minute hunts for newcomers into easy “hit this spot and you win in 10 seconds” snoosefests. Actually _hunt the monsters_ in a movie called _”Monster Hunter,”_ based off of the game series _”Monster Hunter,”_ made in collaboration with the series installment titled _”Monster Hunter_ World.”
One bad thing about movie rathalos (more the writing around it) is from what I’ve seen, the movie doesn’t seem to keep its “windup” for his breath consistent. When he tries to torch Artemis, it takes so long that he gets interrupted both times. But against the military it’s instant or takes like a second
@@Exel3nce I have no words, may I ask what you didn't like about the Netflix movie Edit: I know it's not perfect but it was a good game movie in my opinion
One of the few praises this movie gets its getting The look of the monsters right. And i agree to a small extent, rathalos and Diablos look great. Unfortunately, nercylla is my FAVORITE MONSTER and the absolute travesty that is this movies butchering of my cool spider ruins what ever good faith this movie gets for "accurate designs". That's not nercylla, nercylla has a bright pearl white carapace, bright blue eyes, a purple cloak, brought purple poison crystals, a bright orange accents, it had personality with its colors and design. This slander had muted green eyes and black everything else and zero personality, lived in a hive despite being solitary monsters, were afraid of sunlight which made no sense, and to top it all lived in a desert which it doesn't! Unless your talking about shrouded nercylla which this clearly isn't because the only real color this spider has is a muted PURPLE crystal
”who am I to pretend my ideas are superior?” Dude.. At this point literally anything would be superior to that dumpster fire of a movie... Heck, even Legends of the Guild was, despite all it’s graphical shortcomings and rushed pacing- ultimately better take on movie adaptation of MH universe(and it even expanded upon backstories of already existing characters, so there’s that)
Live Actions of Series I love have always hurt me! This was not to be trusted once it showed it’s face. I’m glad I’ve finally learned not to give chances to these… things. Edit: thinking back on it, Only The Sonic Movies have not disappointed me surprisingly!
I think it's bc the Sonic movies tried to be a watchable theater tier movie first and foremost, where as so many of these VG adaptations tried erroneously to bring a damned interactive small screen game onto the big screen, where the audience is 100% the passenger instead of the driver. If you're gonna have a captive audience, your product needs to be a curated 7 course meal, w a beginning middle and end.
You already made a MUCH better Monster Hunter movie plot. Your video "The Nature of Monster Hunter World - The Forbidden Episode" IS a much better Monster Hunter Movie plot. Your story telling was amazing and I was constantly on edge while watching. If they make that into a movie, I'm sure it would be amazing
The way how they kill Rathalos doesn't even make sense. The liquids and whatever the Fire monsters use only ignites when exposed to air. Because otherwise they would be killing themselves constantly by trying to spit some Fire.
I told myself the same thing, but this particular quest works because travelling to different worlds is a thing in The Witcher so it's believable, but neither our world nor Monster Hunter's one allow such a thing so it kinda comes out of nowhere here in my opinion.
The Monsters really sucks. And I'll help you with another details. 1. Diablos - -The Diablos seems to be much darker and really aggressive, meaning that it's a Black Diablos. that's why it's freaking OP. -The Wings weren't really Wings or limbs for support, like the Pseudos, but rather like a Flipper gliding flipper to thrivers the Sand seas, like Swordfishes. That's why they were kinda useless in the game and the Diablos, even the Monoblos, Only uses its Body, Head and Feets to damage. -In the movie, it sees Tony Ja(Some says that he's the Field team leader from World.) from like 50 meters away, the Diablos freaking stare kill him. Diablos in general are freaking near sighted creatures and locate your location by using the sand movements and sounds that's why it is sensitive and weak on Sonic bombs, not Flash bombs. 2. Nerscylla -It sucks. They were supposed to be colorful, suggesting that they're venomous and make you sleep. And it should have some purplish pallets, not an 8-legged monster reference. -And the adults, should have some flesh skin armors, means they've hunted Gypceros and Khezu(If they're were even endemic on that area on the first place). -They can also walk out of the sun. They're not Bats. 3. Rathalos- -Some people, suggests that the Rathalos is a Variant for the Dreadking Rathalos (Unless it's like the most accurate picture of it, which is yeah.) That's why it has more wing membrane patterns, bright skins and Massive size than a normal Rathalos. -That's why it residents on the Tower locale, because Only the most OP Elder dragons, Variants and Apex creatures can inhabits on that area, it also suggest that it is One of the residents of that area. Luckily, they didn't encounter a freaking Teostra or even a Alatreon. 4. Apceros- -I got no words for the adorable brown spiky ankys. 5. Cephalos -Okay, Cephalos lives almost on All desert biomes, except where the Jhen Mohrans live(Near Val habar), which suggests the geography that the Cephalos are in the area lives with the Dahren Mohran, which is good. For MH4U players, it's accurate and acceptable. 6. Dahren Mohran -Yeah, that's a Massive whale.
If Diablos is so nearsighted then why can it spot me from across half a map before getting aggro’d and charging at me? And yes I’m referring to the pre-world games.
I'm curious to hear your ideas and to hear your opinions on Legends of the Guild. It certainly wasn't perfect and had some serious pacing issues (it was originally planned as a series and instead is a 60 minute "movie") but I really enjoyed it. *That* imo is a movie for MonHun fans. I'd just hope a potential sequel would have better pacing and more original or compelling characters to make it appeal to a wider audience as well. Though, I showed it to some friends and family who aren't familiar with the series and they really liked the monster designs and thought the movie was fun, so it might not even have too much to fix
Yeah, Legends of the Guild really felt like a first episode of a series when I watched it. I really wish Capcom went through with that. Still, what we got was already better than the live action movie.
The worst part for me was was Tony Jaa's Hunter had an inkling of a better movie within the the confines of this crap piece. I can imagine Jaa playing a guy who lost his wife and child to a monster, him being filled with hate and vengeance, and then recognizing the hunter's place in the ecosystem. But no... We get W.S. Anderson bastardizing another Capcom property to make another action movie about his wife.
If they want to make a new monster hunter movie, it should be animated. Cause I feel like you’d be able to show the monsters a lot better than with live action. But what would be the coolest thing is like a nature documentary based around the monsters. Now that would make a lot of monster hunter fans very happy
Not just animated... Actually consult either the community or the devs. And here the producer for this sh*z show said "the movie will please the fans"... Cuz I don't see anyone, even Congalala won't touch this shiz.
@@sprinklesmckincles726 The first Fantastic Beasts is exactly that. The plot portrays the beasts as actual animals not as deranged monsters that most people in the movie except the MC thinks.
I come from the future to tell the entire comment section this: YOU'RE WRONG! The worst video game movie is Borderlands. The Monster Hunter Movie is now being praised as a 'decent' film.
Thats exactly what I thought about when this showed up as a recommended video lol. I wish I had enough money to really see just how bad the borderlands movie is in theaters lol
Yea, give it some time and new age internet revisionists will do what revisionists do best and lie about the movie being "but good actually" or "misunderstood gem" like they always do in order to be hip and "counter culture". Then said counter culture will become the opposite as more people regurgitate that same opinion and any opinion other than that will be shafted as "bad take" or "bro did not cook" by some dumbass that can't think for himself.
I agree, but without the people looking kind of odd and some of the people being introduced and then dying, and were meant to feel sad about them, like we have known them for ages.. Would be cool if there was another episode to it though..
I loved it when rathalos said "it's rathin' time" and then rathed all over the place. God it pains me to even make this comment. Its a dead meme to a dead something that's called a movie.
Watching this movie was like falling asleep after playing through the first few missions of mhw and watching a michael bay movie afterwards, then having some sort of incomprehensible dream with bits and pieces that my dumb tiny brain tries to recollect mushed together
I think it was doomed from the start by having the "military character learns how to fight big baddies from the natives" story idea first of all, it will inevitably make the native characters look stupid and incompetent, and the military character (usually american) as smart and the only one up to the task this usually ends up being racist :/ but also the real problem with the movie is that nerscylla is in the desert what the actual fuck is it doing there???
I watched this in theatres to a full house in Tokyo (i live in Japan, but not in tokyo, i was on vacation and decided to visit the theatre). I was SO DISAPPOINTED. I could write a thesis on all the ways this movie was awful, most of which you touch on. Recently I had the urge to watch it again, as my MH addiction flared back up. (I just wanted to consume ANYTHING MH related). It had been long enough that i was like, surely it wasnt THAT bad........(I think it just FORGOT most of the film cuz it was just.....not memorable) Rewatching it again, I was disappionted a second time lmao. it really is that bad. I counted this time, too. 60 PERCENT INTO THE FILM and theyre sill middling around in the "exposition survival" section of the film. To keep a long story short; my biggest issues were that it had nothing to do with the theme or feeling of a Monster Hunter game, it lacked any kind of music from the games at all, and the monster fights were generic low budget action nonsense. (The "fight" with the Rathalos involves it landing, and then milla jovovicch slicing the camera for 5 seconds before the fight ends and they go back to Earth......what the fuck?!) The wierdest part is that its weirdly accurate in certain respects; like the mosnter designs are "accurate," the guild uniforms are all accurate, she randomly does the demon mode for the twin blades for no explailable reason, aptonoths are there, the ancient civilization is there.....its bizarre theyd be accurate in certain places and then just MISS the rest of everything else. How I would fix the film: delete the entire survival part; have the army team arrive in the MH world, get their asses kicked by Diabolos, but right before they get totally destroyed, cue Proof of a Hero and a team of Monster Hunters shows up and has a fuckin bad ass fight with the Diabolos, taking it out. As they cart the Diabolos away, the hunters explain the world to the army people. This whole segment would free up literally HALF the movie for more interesting things. Cue montage of them getting outfitted in monster hunter armor and training with their weapons, some could even use bowguns since theyd alreayd be familiar. Explain that nature is important and hunters live in a balance with it. Going out and collecting items and materials, hunting some of the smaller monster like Gendrome or something. Etc. Add in the meat cooking music, even if its just whistled, as meat is cooked lol. (That not being in the movie made me furious YOU HAD ONE JOB). The plot of them going to the tower is fine; but the entire fight with the Rathalos needs like, be actually filmed and included lol. Have them FIGHT the Rathalos. Show us moves from the game. Cut the tail off. Dodging. Drinking potions mid fight. Defeat the Rathalos in the MHWorld and then let most of the army team leave through the portal, but have the Gore Magala show up and ARtemis chooses to stay to let the others go home, and cue Proof of a Hero and then the credits as they engage the monster. (The film not having a single piece of MH music was the most egregious sin to me YOU HAD ONE JOB>!>!>>!>>>! like??!?) ANyway yea, can you tell im still bitter?
Fucking aye this would've been millions of times better than the absolute trainwreck they shoved down our throats. Honestly, the writers and directors should just go back to school if a commentor on youtube can make an infinitely better story. I don't mean that as an insult, I mean that as a major compliment. The fact that you can make better content than 'experienced' writers and directors, shows your creativity and writing potential. Really, the only thing I didn't really care about was the lack of Monster Hunter music, but that's just a personal thing cause I usually play with Monster Hunter mute.
The monster designs were probably only accurate because the dev team was all but physically breathing down Anderson's neck. We'd probably have Diablos with Raptor claws and fire breathing if they didn't.
I really, REALLY hate how they portrayed the hunters, honestly. They feel more like cavemen or “savages” than hunters. Hunters are jovial and determined and happy to be doing what they’re doing, not scampering around in the desert (or wildspire waste, for the cultured) like they’re helpless. They’re NORMAL PEOPLE. Sigh
I feel like Tony Jaa is an actual fan of the games. His movements match that lively animated quality that the game has, and it seems like he’s giving it his all to put make that apparent
As soon as I learned who were working on the movie, I knew it was going to be pretty bad. Anderson and Jovovich just can't be taken seriously anymore. I'm just glad we have Legends of the Guild to watch instead, which is a good try in translating Monster Hunter into a movie format.
If Paulie wanted a 'fish out of water' main character, it was as easy as starting off in the MH world, in a peaceful little hamlet that's never had to worry about fighting. Then BOOM, one day some mysterious monster attacks, disrupting the status quo and displacing a main character or two, and they get swept up by more veteran hunters after the very monster that attacked their village. There, did that in 60 seconds. Its so _bloody_ easy to set up a good MH story, you have to make a deliberate effort to make something this bewilderingly stupid.
Geography: Okay, the place...is really out of place. Some regions in MH really are confusing, but some are just plain common sense for Biological and Geographic nerds, like Me(Yeah). My proposal is to showcase the places. And help you too, my friend. 1. The Great Desert -For new MH players, people that doesn't explore the lore and areas and it's inhabitants. The Great Desert is not Just a Desert, it had tonssss of Deserts, this desert is just a speck of dust for a much massive desert, continental size, Sand sea, size of Africa. It is located on the Western part of the MH map, it's top is the Schrade region(Where the Fatalis fight occured and MH 1 take place.) These deserts are inhabitants of the 2 Mohrans species, Cephalos (Land sharks), Delex(Barracuda like Fin fishes and of course acts like Dolphins.) And many of the Blos species. 2. The Tower -Actually, the wiki on MH movie refers to it as the Sky Tower(Yeah, Paul(Not me), some how mixed the 2 spiral towers on MH. •The Tower - Where the movie is set in. •Sky Corridor - Where it is surrounded by the sea. So, yeah it should be the Tower. Meant that they are in "Fonlon continent". Meant that it is Located on the North Eastern most part of the Whole Map. 3. Okay, can you see what I was referring too? The Great Desert and Fonlon(Check the MH map) are in the freaking set on different continents of the Wholeeee World. And they just like travelled for like 1 day by a "Sand Sea Land ship" a freaking sand ship to travel on a place, where it is surrounded by an Ocean, Great Forest and Filled with Apex monsters. How, the hell did they even manage to be on That place!!!! In conclusion, the setting is set on the Sky Tower(The Tower, should have been located in the Eastern part of the Old world) surrounded by the Great desert(Located on the Western part of the Old world) meant the Game and Movie geography doesn't make any sense.
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 It doesn't, it is where the Great forest is located and the Tower. And, if you play some old games like MHFU, you can see from the distance area of the Tower, it is plainly grass and forest.
the desert in the first part movie is the great desert, aka dune sea where the mohrans swim, and diablos should not be there same for nerscylla also that map is fan-made, we don’t actually know where most of the biomes are located canonically
You know, part of the reason I play monster hunter is to escape for a minute from a world where the US military is destroying my country and life, it feels so insulting and painful to see them invade my fantasy world as well.
when i saw the trailer, i already know its not going to sound interesting.. but, its that random rumor about the related to tower lore that forced me to watch, sadly, yes its still awesome to see rathalos destroy shit, but i also prefer seeing the guy hunter hunt the wyvern than seeing isekai stuff, that woman..is an extra oof
Hmmm, humans killing huge ass monster and wailing their huge hammer around like its nothing. They dont tire and they dont stop, and they have a tribal society with mythical like essence.HMMMMMM LETS GET THE MILITARY HERE, THAT'LL GET MY WIFE IN THERE!
I will never not find it hilarious that Capcom went in, criticised the Diablos initial design (as it was actually revised) for looking too predatory with its claws and other features being tweaked yet it still looks incredibly meh. I still don't get why its horns are so pointy and it really weirds me out having fought Diablos so often. Glad that Capcom has been actively distancing itself from the movie though, as they should.
Honestly, I feel like there was already a perfectly serviceable movie plot they could have used with the backstory of the rule of 4, the old wyverian from 1 and his party preparing for and dealing with Lao Shan Lung. A sort of prequel to the whole franchise and giving Lao a serious glow-up would have been great. I am really interested to see you're idea though.
My biggest complaint is that they added in a Gore Magala for NO REASON WHATSOEVER. Like, they could've had such a fantastic story involving the Magalas and whatnot, ending with a big climactic battle with either a Shagaru or Chaotic Gore Magala. They could've touched upon the maddening virus they give to other monsters. But no. We got a tiny little cameo that had little to no exposition. They could've done something great here and it makes me so mad. It doesn't even have to be about the Magalas. Other elder dragons could've been included, or have a story revolving around the history of Shraed and its quarrel with Fatalis as a prequel of sorts. They could have had ANY other person direct this movie.
I honestly want a movie about some rookie who moved from the main cities out into the villages and his journey or a movie on a researcher and his journey throughout the frontier
I got these vague ideas in my head wanting to see a story about someone who witnessed the destruction of loc lac city set right between the 2 generations, or a different story involving an endgame hunter going off the deep end and going rogue in some manner, going on the run from the guild. maybe a sequel to your idea lol By the way, there is a fan fiction that has a character researching some old stuff that you might be interested in. it’s in the sequel to the lost civilisation, I haven’t read either though in a long time however and genuinely can’t remember how good they were, they are in my mind but it could be rose glasses idk (main plot for TLC was humans from real world getting frozen in crystals and waking up in the apocalyptic future, aka MH universe)
Honestly as a fanfic writer I want to rewrite the thing. Keep the whole isekai thing. But have more of the soldiers survive and not be so stupid. As well as to the reason as to why modern weapons don't work. Mostly in my opinion is because the rounds are so small. And the hide to thick. It would be like getting stung by a bee then having any real force to them.
Bullets hit very hard because of the speed at which they are shot. If a Bullet isn't hurting the diablos, then an arrow isn't going to do anything and forget about swinging a weapon at it. It's one of the many reasons that people don't like the isekai angle; They introduced a militaristically superior option and randomly claimed it doesn't work. If they had to isekai in Jovovich and she needed to be able to fight, then they could have made her a civilian martial arts enthusiast.
@@alduinthetyrant5225 but you got to remember that they have bullets in the monster hunter universe too. And the monsters don't take much damage from them either. And those bullets are about the size of a human hand if I remember correctly. So I think the size comparison of it being like a bee sting fits. Plus these are creatures that can tank their own explosions and those of other monsters. I think my argument has some weight to it about bullets meant to be used on humans would be to small to really effect the monsters of the Monster Hunter universe.
@@ryu433 While I agree that the bowguns fire larger shots than most handheld firearms, I have to defer back to the speed of the shots used. The projectiles used by bowguns travel very slowly in comparison to modern guns and lack the same piercing power. Piercing ammo does since that is how it works in game, but introducing real world things means introducing real world logic. I can't speak for you, but I would lose all suspension of disbelief if I watched a piercing shot traveling at thirty mph towards a monster, pierce it's brain, and travel through it's entire body while doing miniscule damage. As for the monsters size influencing damage, your statement is both true and false. While the larger body and increased toughness would make flesh wounds ineffective, organ damage doesn't depend on shot size. To use your analogy; a bee sting won't hurt much, but a bee stinger sized projectile piercing your eye, brain, heart, etc will still be lethal or at least severely damaging.
I brought this idea up for a MH/RWBY crossover. Instead of the typical Isekai angle, openings between the worlds began opening up and serious MH wildlife center them to explore new territories and because the population of both settings are relatively low this goes unnoticed for a long while. Eventually more classic monsters come through to establish themselves. It's basically the plot that BBC show Primeval. The extra twist though is that the residents of Remnant discover that the MH monsters are very effective in dispatching Grimm and don't really target humans all that much. What do you guys think with this premise?
@@dalekrenegade2596 that sounds like something more into monster hunter stories then normal monster hunter. Because I could see hunter schools have a class on wyvern taming and things like that. But it more relying on the aura of the person then kinship stones.
I think that the Legends of the Gild was a best way to show a MH move to any new people and they would still understand the world batter then this move.
its kind of funny how armor piercing rounds dont work on the monsters when in game shooting them with bone chips and coconuts is one of the most effective ways to fight
They couldn't really decide where this movie is supposed to take place in the MH universe. It is supposed to take place in the new world, but the new world doesn't have like a open empty desert like the old world does. Also the movie shows Cephalos, a completely inaccurate Nerscylla and a Dahren Mohran skeleton. All those monster are not found in the new world so far.
If that scene in the Nercylla layer would've been from a different movie, it could've been very good if you ask me. That moment with this one soldier being "injected" with offspring felt very Alien-esque and was genuinly unnerving. This movie had some actual ok moments, but man the whole thing thrown together was terrible and lazy movie making. Leaving all the in lore issues aside, for example: That one "inside the thrown vehicle" camera shot was used three fucking times in the span of 20 minutes.
The monster hunter movie should have been a nature documentary for a 1/3 of it then an elder dragon shows up (it could be any) then we see hunters track it, study it, then fight a couple other monsters to get the gear and weapons then kill it.
This movie hurt itself just as much as Chaotic Gora Magala. (For context Chaotic Gore is a Variant of Gore Magala that occurs when another Gore matures into Shageru Magala and then spreads a version of the Frenzy Virus that causes other Gore Magala that try and turn into Shageru into half complete monstrosities and they are in constant pain due to this cut short transformation, to the point where honestly the hunters killing it could be considered a mercy kill to put it out of it's misery.)
My favourite part of the movie is how clearly it was trying to recreate the success of the resident evil movie. An action-horror-monster movie based on a popular Capcom game starring mila jovovitch that was released in October, it’s the exact same thing. The resi movies were also very successful in china by the end of their run, which is why the film has several different Chinese production companies attached to it. It managed to completely shoot itself in the foot in both aspects. The successful in china part is obvious, it being banned is the thing the movie is most known for. On trying to recreate resi’s success, resident evil films were nominally zombie movies with freaky body horror monsters, but weren’t hardcore enough to really be horror movies, and we’re light film viewing around the halloween season for people who wanted a horror fix. It might be obvious to say, but monster hunter is NOT that. It’s not a horror series, which is why the spider part of the film feels so disconnected from the rest of it. It is attempting to apply the horror aspect of resident evil to monster hunter, and it does not work because monster hunter monsters are bright and colourful, which is probably why they went with diablos and completely redesigned nerscylla, and the only reason rathalos is barely changed is because Capcom didn’t want them to Also, it’s really worth mentioning that all the stuff at the end, the stuff that feels like monster hunter, including the bad costume hunters? Those were all reshoots, which is why they look cheap and terrible and there’s barely any of it
Wait, what was that about Paul W. S. Anderson causing a stunt woman to lose her arm? I didn't even know about that! Still, I'm pretty much worried about what Paul might do for this sequel... They screwed up when it came to the monsters in this movie, I can only dread to think what might happen to the monsters he might bring up there. Why couldn't Capcom allow a director to make a nature documentary style movie/series involving the Monster Hunter monsters outside of the hunts instead of hiring Paul W.S. not paying for hospital bills Anderson for a movie?
The fact that their excuse for the multiverse plot was "to help viewers relate" was genuinely defended by actual fans prior to the movie premiering is hilarious in hindsight. I knew it was gonna suck. You knew it was gonna suck. We ALL knew, but so many people were such copium addicts lol
My idea for an alternative to this film: Our Hunter falls off the boat due to Diablos being in a feud with each other. They’re moving every which way and the ship just can’t dodge them while they’re butting heads. Our man, rightfully scared, avoids them like the plague and makes his way into a cave. This cave belongs to a Shrouded Nerscylla whom has an egg sac. She’s preparing food for her unborn young and is being the anxious lil bug we know & love. Soon as our man enters the cave, she literally boots him out, only for one of the Diablos to bust through the sand and send our man right back where he came from. Shrouded Nerscylla, concerned for her eggs, skitters away because “fuck that noise” and simply glues our man at the entrance to the cave. Let’s face it, she knows she can’t get rid of him, all she’s doing now is making sure her future babies don’t die. Around the cave we see Rust Duramburos, a bunch of Gypceros which seem to be seriously old, and a couple Khezu. Our girl’s being a great momma in making sure her babies are well fed, so she’s mostly just waiting for the storm and Diablos fighting to subside. As our man breaks the webbing he’s trapped in, he sets to just eating some jerky, since he knows he’ll be here a while. Just from the entrance can he see the cacti which are being fought over, telling him all he needs to know about the Diablos. The dialogue will be *nonexistent* ! No narration, no stupid army song, *maybe* our boy praying, but no dialogue. The storm passes, surprise Fucken surprise, and he’s once again thrown into the damn desert because Shrouded Nerscylla wants no part of his ‘scrawny’ self! Able to actually do things, he comes to spy an approaching school of Delex. Armed with Dual Blades, he sets to getting himself some lunch and fights the bane of my existence (NO I’M NOT BITTER). Having excess Delex meat, he carries it back to the Shrouded Nerscylla cave. He’s by no means thrilled to be near the ant lion-spider hybrid, however the Diablos Tis a beastie best left unchallenged in the blazing daylight on its home terf. He’s underprepared due to being knocked off his ship, so we’re mostly following him plan to detain the Diablos if not outright kill it. Between the numerous rocky outcrops of the desert, we see a myriad of spider webs, evidence towards the Shrouded Nerscylla’s avoiding the Diablos in her area. This also explains how she got Gypceros and Khezu when she’s-seemingly-trapped in her cave. Preparing for his journey, our hunter gives some of the Delex to the Shrouded Nerscylla and cuts a bunch of webs off himself. Essentially getting himself caught over and over again by a rightfully paranoid mama, he fashions himself a cloak of spider silk and Delex skin to help fight the night chill. We then behold him wandering the desert in a beautifully shot montage of the landscape’s majesty and the beasties within, our man taking pauses to rest near the rocky outcroppings during the day. Unfortunately, we know better than to assume that he’s fine, and during said montage, we see him fighting Jaggi, some perturbed Rhenoplos, a Nibelsnarf and even a Qurupeco. This is our action segment, showing us his nightly march through the desert and his daily battles for survival. It’s unorthodox, yet it pads out the runtime and shows the beasties in their environment just doing their own thing before they notice our man failing to avoid them due to his sticking out like a sore thumb. As the movie ends, however, he’s switched from using Dual Blades to an improvised Switch Axe made from Rhenoplos Shell, Nibelsnarf jaws and Qurupeco & Jaggi bits all working together. I also thought about him making Tonfas or a Magnet Spike (there’s gotta be some lodestone in those rocky outcrops, right?), yet that’s up to y’all. His journey ends at an oasis, where he spies the ship from before and finds his pals waiting by a campfire, greeting him pleasantly and welcoming him back with open arms as well as bright smiles. They ruffle his hair, slap him on the back and give him something to drink aside from monster juices, and he sits down to tell them the story in some gibberish conlang nobody’s gonna understand aside from the cast. Our credits roll when a distant roar tells us there’s a Barroth not far from them, making our man gesture that it’s the party’s turn to deal with bullshit, getting them to laugh and grab their things while he takes a well-deserved nap with a palico who’d clearly been missing him.
I would definitely be down for hearing your ideas for a MH Movie. Bonus points if you pitch it as sequel to the one discussed here and how it could potentially improve on it's ideas.
I watched it day 1 in theaters. When I got home I ranted for 40+ minutes in a discord call with other MH nerds and not a single person liked what I described. Talked 6 people out of watching it.
As much as I agree that some people just dislike certain movies on a whim, there are plenty of reasons for someone to come to these conclusions before seeing the film. With this movie as an example we can simply look at Hollywood's history of disrespecting video game IPs when adapting them into shows or movies. We have examples like the old Mario movie, the halo tv show, the doom movie, etc. It usually boils down to the director using iconography from the franchise they're adapting to please the fans without the context or understanding of why people liked it in the first place. It may be unfair to the movie to expect that without seeing it, but it's happened too many times to simply ignore it as a possibility. We can also look at the director for a clue of what to expect. Paul W.S. Anderson has claimed himself a long time fan of monster hunter, so that bodes well for accuracy or at the very least passion. Unfortunately, we also have previous projects of his to consider. Anderson was the director for the Resident Evil movies, movies held in very low regard by resident evil fans for their treatment of the source material. Anderson has a strategy in which he gets the rights a video game IP cheaply and casts his wife, Mila Jovovich, as the star so that they get double billing for the project. The result is that she is inserted into these IPs as his amazing OC (please don't steal) to shit all over the existing characters. Since he doesn't care about much besides making her look good the rest of his movies usually fall to the wayside. As an example: we know Capcom personally stepped in during production to try and correct both the mannerisms and the design of the black diablos (which Anderson stated outright he didn't care about because he was focused on Mila). Why this wasn't done for the nerscylla I don't know. With these things considered, I think people's trepidation towards the monster hunter movie was well earned. They were proven right, after all, and I am certainly glad I didn't spend money going to see myself. Edit: I paused after your comment about not judging movies prematurely to type this comment, but you discussed most of this yourself. Good job.
I think the Isekai premise could've worked well if: 1. It wasn't some stupid magic tower, but some weird experiment in our world that hit the soldiers. Make the trip "one way", and you might have had a good opening premise for the "isekai" portion. 2. The soldiers aren't completely obliterated within the opening of the movie. They have firepower ON PAR with what we see in the game franchise. Namely, the BOWGUN lines (heavy and light both use explosive ammo, which is typically pretty effective on most monsters... I think even on Diabolos, he's weak to it, but I'd have to check to know for sure). The reason you don't obliterate them early is for a couple reasons. The first is that you could have them all trained to hunt monsters and they all adopt a different weapon style (which would be a fun nod to the series), the second is that you can bring up the very real problem of "our guns have limited ammo, therefore, are only useful in small amounts, and we HAVE to adopt the weaponry of this place". You know, to avoid the idiotic trope of "guns and grenades do nothing to the monsters". I'd have the Diablos kill one or two people, take enough damage to "break" some parts off of it (like in the game!) and then they escape in their vehicles. Since, you know, the vehicles are actually far faster and more manuverable than Diablos in the games is. 3. The soldiers end up at a village where they have trouble accepting them since they're just so weird. But, upon hearing that they broke off some parts of Diablos and fought it, they could decide that such people should become "Hunters". Maybe you have some minor tension here as these are effectively strangers with different viewpoints and ideologies or something. But, you could have a section where they hand off their weapons and armor and other equipment to the local smith to have it analyzed or even broken down for parts for new armor or weapons. After all, what they brought is designed specifically to kill people and protect themselves from being killed by people. It isn't useful for fighting monsters. 4. We get a training montage of each soldier getting the basic "Village Clothing" you start every game with as well as their own "basic version" of weapon from the games. I would've given our lead hero, Jovovich, a Light Bowgun, rather than her sword stuff. She looks stupid carrying the melee weapon stuff in this movie, so I would've given her a Bowgun. That's the first reason. The second reason being that you could then use her as an excuse to show off the "gathering" of supplies and "crafting in the field". She would need to rely heavily on the environment for what she could do, which would also paint her as a "resourceful" character, on the look out for advantages and supplies at every opportunity. Show her crafting some ammo and maybe a couple antidotes or something. Maybe, for the finale, she crafts the "bomb barrels" and uses them as a trap for a different monster (I'd suggest an Elder Dragon of some kind, rather than Rath or Diablos like we got). The training montage could complete with them going back out to where Diablos had parts broken off of it in order to retrieve those pieces to craft new equipment. It would be their "final test" or something. 5. Then, we get two hunts after that. The film could imply they've been hunting more, but we'd get two specific hunts. The second one would be the Diablos (because it tends to either be a mid or late game hunt in most of the franchise, due to how dangerous and powerful it is). The first hunt could be anything decently interesting to look at. I don't know that I'd use a Rathian or Rathalos for it, but you probably could. I might use something as an "early hunt" in the franchise instead, so you could do some character building, show off what role each soldier plays in the hunt, and show how they "come to grips" with fighting and harvesting from these monsters for better gear. 6. The culmination of the film could be that the soldiers come to care about the village, everyone in it, and also want to study how the world works. What is the weird thing going on and how is it connected to the Elder Dragon of the location? The soldiers defeat Diablos and the villagers are happy about it because now that the area is clear, they can send other Hunters and researchers in to figure out what is going on with the shift in ecology of the area or whatever... Whatever the Elder Dragons are doing in the movie (use your imagination!). The first encounter with the Elder Dragon could even go very badly. You could lose another soldier or two. Or, have them severely wounded and "out of the fight". Something to get the party down from like 20, to like 4 (a nod to the games!). So, Jovovich concocts a trap for the Dragon. They use Bomb Barrels to start the fight and weaken it or something, and then everyone slips into their roles during the fight. We see them dodging, using grapples or dodge rolls or whatever. We see them block attacks. We see them crafting on the fly, potions and smoke bombs and whatever the heck else might make the fight interesting. Jovovich maybe discovers that the Elder Dragon is weak to "Dragon Ammo" or something and just happens to spot one of the very rare plants that allows her to craft the ammo on the fly. She uses that ammo to "open the dragon up" to further attacks, maybe knocking it down for a stun. The other soldiers then dogpile it and maybe sever a tail and break some horns on it. When it gets back up, it goes into "Enrage" and starts messing them up. Maybe one of the 4 has to have emergency treatment and is carted back to camp. The remaining 3 then use a flashbomb or something to momentarily stop the Enrage and Jovovich hits the creature with the Dragon ammo again, and we get a second stun. The Soldiers finish the creature off and breathe a sign of relief. They begin carving their kill and then a member of the Village comes in all frazzled. More of their kind have showed up to the village, looking for the first of them! And then we get to hear a very ominous (and hopefully very familiar!) call of another Elder Dragon nearby. We could then allude to THAT Elder Dragon being the actual problem... and cut to credits for sequel bait. That sequel bait hook basically being the "Waiting for DLC experience" most new players to the series would have. I think that would've made the Isekai part of the movie far more interesting and probably would've made a much cooler Monster Hunter movie.
It's so sad. It could have been a movie about a group of hunters investigating an ecological disturbance that threatens the safety of their town. Monsters start acting out of whack and encroach on the town's territory. A group of hunters get sent out to investigate. They follow some clues, fight some monsters, hide from others, etc. They follow the trail to the source and oh my god it's an Elder Dragon. Now they have to try and find a way to kill it to protect the town and the ecosystem. It writes itself, but instead we got this.
Ok Paul W.S. Anderson is the director of this movie, and that military woman is milla jovovich, HIS WIFE. Dude ever since RE movie he seemingly got this fetish of putting his wife in every movie he makes, and make her the protagonist. Like bruh just look at his movies he's directed
@@willyshoyosjoya4898 probably its because of their higher ups being old. And giving their franchises to be adapted by the same guy. Like capcom themselves look at this film and said "yes this is good." And i heard that they only pointed out Diablos's horns being too pointy and should be more rounded because they live on the sands. Like ok capcom now how about fix everything else?
@@clementfermn6711 i still have the hope, that maybe someday, Capcom will give one of their IPs to a competent company and make a good live action movie
When MH Rise came to console and my friends and I got back into MH, we decided to get drunk and watch the movie to see how bad it was. We didn't even make it to the Rathalos part of the movie. Took like 3 tries to fully watch it. And if this is a passion project, I would hate to see a movie where the director isn't trying
@@an3582 Also the manga made the same mistake this movie did by depicting Diablos as if they're predatory animal (there was a scene of Diablos carrying a dead Cephadrome on its *mouth*. Even ignoring its diet, never once Diablos attack by biting, the same scene could've been Diablos carried/punctured Cephadrome with its horns and it would've have made more sense)
It honestly would've been nice to have a documentary series about the Monster Hunter world, following researchers' findings and the like. Be in the field with a hunter squad, documenting and researching the ecosystem. Have a season in each biome or continent, ya know something cool?!
"Has, so far never veered into straight up magic" Mh Crossovers : hi Not defending the movie obviously but..yea. Even if not the "magic genre" MH has definitely dabbled in the crossover/ "Multiversal" genre. Heck we see it every game. World SPECIALLY with the Final Fantasy and Whitcher crossovers.
That's the thing though. The FFXIV collab and Witcher collab clearly displays that these events happened because of magic from OUTSIDE the MH world. The movie shows magic from either the MH world or an unspecified and distant power. An argument could be made for Resonance in the twins of Rise (and possibly the diva in 4U) but that, to me, is more psychic powers than straight up magic.
@@Antiling_the_Squidkid Perhaps to there original franchises they are. But...they happened in the MHW's story, they are canon to it, meaning they are canon to MHW, which is obviously canon to the main series. And plus...let's not go down that hole of "what is canon to MH or not" like..seriously, the "canonisity" (or lack there of, for the most part) is about as straightforward as Warhammer's. They play it VERY lose.
The crossover and collaborations are not canon. They are just there for fun and extra bonus content. If they were canon that would mean the people of MH play Yu-gi-Oh, watch Sailor Moon and know various other anime and manga, have Mario mushrooms growing somewhere in their world, have shards of the Tri-Force laying around, as well having the characters from Fairy Tail be a boat ride away from visiting them if were take the collab quest descriptions and what we see have seen as canon. This just to name a few examples. If in a future game there is an NPC who is there as an easter egg for World who is either a retired Commission Fleet member or perhaps even the Field Team Leader's parents or sister, mentions something that sounds like Behemoth and Leshen then we will know it's canon.
@@joseluissilva6027 Yeah no... The devs confirmed in an interview that this may have happened in an alternate universe but it didn't in the main universe we play in.
It's because the director doesn't know how to properly execute exposition. So he relies on exposition dumps, he requires a character or two to be non native, to have an excuse to ask those questions, and subsequently be answered for the audience.
As mentioned in the video, if you would like me to lay out how I would adapt Monster Hunter, lemme know. I'm just a cringe little guy with ideas.
Well, with how you presented the black dragon ecology documentary, I think you have a pretty great grasp of Monster Hunter. Do tell us about your movie ideas!
Yes please, i really want to see it, actually: had dome ideas for one too
Yes let us see those ideas. They can’t be more cringe than what the movie was😂
I’d love to hear your ideas for a movie! That would be a real fun video :D
Yea and your ideas are spectacular. The way you told that "Monster Hunter redacted" story was top notch and would have been a glorious movie in its own right. So I'm very down to hear how you would adapt Monster Hunter.
The director gets so much worse, he actually caused an extra to get crushed to death by an SUV only 3 months after what happened to Olivia Jackson. Also, its not that the refused to pay, he LIED about having insurance on the actors when he DIDN'T
bro beat the allegations, he isn't a shitty director, he´s a shitty person
No insurance is necessary as defence that he wasn't planning on hurting anyone!
i mean he also did mortal kombat i think and if you watch the scorpion hell fight..... that set no look so safe.
We should strap that man down and make him watch this movie on repeat till he dies.
Oh, man. And his work from 1995 - 2002 was actually pretty good, especially Event Horizon...
We could have had an Espinas sleep for 90 minutes and get a better movie
You can join me if you want to!
@@espinas5981 sure
Real
Get Tea Common Shark or NCH Productions on it!!
Sleeping monsters definitely has some cuteness gap in them. It's like directly seeing a bear sleep, knowing how they'll tear us to shreds when awake.
Legit, when they started acting like the Hunters were a bunch of savages, that just straight pissed me off. Dude, these guys hunt for a LIVING. The actual games have massive guns and technology that is on par with our industrial age. Out of date? Somewhat, but still far from that...whatever they thought it was. Hell, I'm almost certain most hunters could read, or else they wouldn't be able to take on requests from a board.
They probably took one look at the field team leader character from mhw and thought the hunters are cavemans or something.
Movie tonally was so far off from actual Monster Hunter games, it was jarring as hell. The MH setting is pretty optimistically cheesy and cheery despite being centered on killing increasingly dangerous monsters until you're fighting ones of apocalyptical-causing levels of power.
lol bad ass illiterate hunters 😂😂 💀
Plus the hunters or humans in mh universe are superhumans compared to our world, it pisses me off i will never watch this sht show.
The CATS can read and are more advanced than how the hunter is depicted.
Watching this monster hunter movie for the 19th anniversary of monster hunter is like celebrating a WWII veterans birthday with a firework...
WWII veterans actually did something important. Jesus social media has poisoned y’all’s mind about soldiers. The army now might not be as it was but back then the soldiers actually cared about people and it was to free Jews. How is that bad??
@@eli2210 who? What? Where?
Who said something about soldiers doing something bad? What? I was bringing awareness to the horrors of war and how many veterans are mentally scared for life. It's called PTSD.
@@Razer-2102lmao what is bro waffling about??
@@eli2210 Brodi you swinging at air
It's not a comparison. I was making use of the literary device called a metaphor to emphazise my point. There is even a bit of a hyperbole in there if you read carefully. You should've learned that in school.@user-bq5np8zb2r
The best premise to a monster hunter movie would a nature documentary with occasional peaks into the culture of the different villages and interviews with random hunters.
Or document a hunter doing talisman grinding... For the whole movie. Atleast the story will be a better one.
@@ashurad_fox5991 “my precious crit up 10 tendy 10 000 will drop one of these days. Mark my words!”
@@shagarumedic don't remind me of the pain.... I'm already past 1.3k+ hours and I still haven't gotten my tenderizer +5 ooo for my gen only save...
Maybe take notes from Surf's Up to make it look like a kinda cheap documentary?
make it like Primal, just no dialogue
“I’m just a guy” Says the man who made the most harrowing and emotion stimulating story about a hunter dealing with the ramifications of both encountering, fighting, and KILLING walking natural disasters
Just a guy
The description of the Alatreon uh.. 'incident' (don't want to fully spoil) sends chills down my spine every single time.
where can i find that story that sounds awesome
@@devilixh253 The Nature of Monster Hunter: The forbidden episode. I really like the last segment too.
@@Shadowmew55 *I havnt even fucking fought Alatreon and I have pre-emptive PTSD from the mere description of ESCATON - JUDGEMENT*
Ugh. Hated this movie. The amount of story potential with the monster hunter universe makes this pathetic movie even more insulting.
I can’t understand how this was allowed to be made. 🤷♂️
The movie is good
@@Galaxy034 No. it’s not. Not even ironically.
@@Galaxy034 Ha
@@Galaxy034 good joke
I don't understand how they failed so spectacularly making this film. It should've been a slam dunk for the writers, MH games have the most basic story ever because it's an outlet to showcase new monsters, why couldn't that have been the same in the movie?
You can have a classic heroes journey with some dude training to become a hunter as he hunts progressively harder and more dangerous monsters. The movie ends with him overcoming a new elder dragon threat like the games. Keep the story simple, the action good, have good special effects, and that would've been a fine adaption. The isekai element was wholly unnecessary.
John Wick proves that having a deep and intricate story isn't 100% necessary for a good action film, just have good looking monsters, good action scenes, and give us a little information on the guild.
Tbf, having a hunter in the movies hunt multiple monsters would take up a LOT of screen time if you want the monsters to actually feel like monsters from the verse and not just "another movie monster".
I'd personally much prefer a hunt against one monster (as in the animated movie "Legends of the Guild" that released the same year iirc) where you get to see some prep work, traps being set and used, the monster absolutely fucking the main characters up and then a bunch of tracking down of the monster. THAT to me feels like the essence of what the games TRY to evoke when veering into more realistic territory, and that should really be the baseline of what happens. If you really feel like you'd pad out the runtime in the movie, I'd argue having 2 or 3 monsters to hunt could also work, but finding reasons for the main character to hunt them all could be...hard.
Alternatively you can also just have the movie follow an established hunter who straight up just accepts 3 different quests throughout the movie. Fuck the storyline of the movie, just show me the prep-work, the ecology, the note taking, the crafting, all that shit in a movie format. Oh, and especially the monsters looking bad-ass.
The very first mistake was letting Paul W.S Anderson touch this series.
If they had to keep Artemis and the Isekai bit, then make the army dudes like the first ten minutes max; establish that there's nothing for Artemis to come back to, and have the rest of the movie using Artemis' complete incompatibility with the series / fish-out-of-water status to actually explore monster hunter's lighthearted tone and insane but still grounded logic. (Insane as in the hunters can physically use the greatsword, but grounded as it's the slowest weapon in the game). Have the movie be about Artemis figuring out her place in this strange new world she's found herself in!
@@Attaxalotl If they really wanted to keep the Isekai angle, I think they had the right idea in that everyone except Artemis needs to die immediately to show the 'threat' of the monsters, but then the Artemis should've been rescued into a village or something where she can properly learn hunting, and not get stuck with just one dude. She can then meet another isekai character (similar to Ron Pearlman) who can break it down to basics how things work without being a cynical ass. Cue training montage, she takes on harder and harder monsters, before the movie ends with her killing Diablos as revenge for her team and becoming a HR hunter. If they really really wanted a trilogy, the groundwork is there. First film is her basic learning, finishes LR and achieves HR. Second film is HR and fighting an elder dragon at the end. Final film is MR and facing off against entirely new monster, maybe some 'black dragon' where you can have your dramatic showdown.
But once again, I think starting you off in the MH world already in the shoes of an actual character in the world and not isekai would lend itself more to the narrative. You can explain the world to the viewer by having the MC have to explain the history of the guild or something for a final test, then the plot starts.
I agree with Cory, the basic ideas even gave a foundation for multiple movies, because as doom doot says, multiple hunt will take too much screen time, so, just make it multiple movies, start from learning the basics to a small hunt, then gradually ascend to finally na elder dragon threat, that should enough to be 3-5 movies
The one thing I was thinking throughout the movie was "oh god this is painful to watch, but I really want to see the inevitable scene in which they're gonna use Proof of a hero"
I've never been so disappointed by anything
It is literally THE Monster Hunter song! How'd they only use it in the credits!
same
@attaxalotl3095 wait I'm sorry THEY WHAT?!?!
@@x-blood93 Yeah, Proof of a Hero is exclusively the credits theme.
@@Attaxalotl ah i see.
*_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_*
As a guy that mains insect glaive and started monster hunter in 4u it hurts my soul of how they handled nerscylla and gore magala and how the insect glaive doesn't having it's defining feature
To be fair, the Seeker in World does not have a kinsect either. Bothered me in every cutscene he's in.
At least Capcom did the weapon justice in Legends of the Guild.
@@legomaster2538 It was better than the MH movie (not a high bar to jump over) but I still wasn't satisfied with it.
To be honest, they kinda hard nerfed every weapon shown in Legends of the Guild. Dual blades with no demon mode, glaive with much more limited air mobility, switch axe barely even got screen time to get into amped state, and heavy bowgun literally had 1 ammo. The story itself was serviceable at least, but the way everything felt so neutered compared to the games bothered me throughout the whole movie.
I think it's still serviceable. I mean, it's by no means a groundbreaking movie, but they still nailed tons of details of the games; the goofy humour, the Monster/Weapon animations, the characters, the looks, etc.
The weapon movesets could've been more fleshed out, but imo they showed off kinda well how a Monster Hunter Hunt could look like in a "real life" or movie setting.
I think it's unneccessary to expect that they display every single little nuance of every weapons moveset, that's not what a movie should be about.
They could have sprinkled in such details from time to time if it had been a series with more episodes.
Bro, I don't have a main... And the way they used explosives on an arrow mortifies me til this day.
(Atleast use slime/blast element coating, or use a small barrel bomb)
And don't get me started with both the gs and db on this movie.
Me and my 2 Monster Hunter-fan friends were the only people in the theater showing it.
When Jovovich’s character carved something off of the Black Diablos, we said “She carved! That’s probably the closest thing we’ll get to the games in this movie!” and started clapping and cheering loudly.
The think the funniest thing they nearly got right was the hunter dude. One of the things MH has going for it is its goofy charm. The games mainly get serious near the end when you start dealing with BBEM, but most other times the characters are exaggerated and full of life. Heck even your hunter has the comedic flare in hunts, between the goofy run while fleeing in combat, or the ol chug and flex of older games. It's a world that doesn't take itself too seriously until it needs to.
i came across the monster hunter movie on tv the other day.
i was ranting to my sister how bad it was and i was also very excited pointing out locations ad talking about lore from the games
Oh yeah, I watched it with my family and all I could do was mention how, “oh, that isn’t nercylla”, or “Rathalos isn’t only weak when he breathes fire”
I watched this with my mother and she got a little annoyed because of me complaining about it 😂 and I'm not a veteran in monster Hunter I was introduced to it in monster Hunter world, and ever since then I learned a lot more stuff about the series obviously. I just really hope they don't make another movie. I do hope if they make another one, make someone else do it who actually knows what they're doing. It would be easier to get fans of the series that come up with an idea about who are veterans or at the very least know a lot about the series .
@@zimdorthegodofpower7955 The thing is with Capcom for some reason.
Every single Live Action Movie Project that they have always flop, either because it's Paul W.S Anderson or another Complications.
But their CG Movie Collection on the other hand, you can say it was a Success, which boggles my mind sometimes, like it felt like they deliberately trying to actually makes their fans Hated Hollywood LA Adaptation for some reason.
Based.
@@Azazantei Pretty sure they just don't care about them.
They literaly do nothing but "supervise" them.
It's literally free money from licensing and free advertising, with them barely getting involved outside of the bare minimum effort they put into supervision.
If Paul Anderson wanted to make a military monster movie he should've just used God Eater instead of Monster Hunter
I prefer god eater stay away from anderson, he gonna put milla as powerful main character (again)
@@tavernadodevilhunter6732 eh that's true but at least it'll (sorta) fit more since how powerful god eaters are
Or better just make a transformer movie he could work with that
@@tavernadodevilhunter6732 oh u think monster hunter deserve to be sacrificed?
@@chairulmaulana1963 nah
they couldve just made artemis a local in the mh universe, like maybe her village got decimated by a monster, or she's a new hunter but suddenly got given a huge responisbility that she has to overcome. but no, they had to make it an isekai american white saviour story that makes 0 sense
also as a db main, the fact that they made demon mode as this actual fantasy power up instead of an internal power up where the user focuses on their strength that it makes them stronger and faster makes me so mad. but what did i expect from the creator that thinks diablos is a predator monster that the real mh staff had to step in and force him to change diablos' claws
Wait WHAT
@@asquri5959 wait what for which part coz im gonna assume the diablos one. basically he first made the diablos' claw to look sharp and pointed much like a predatory animal until fujioka kaname (arts director of mhw) had to step in to say that its innacurate due to diablos being a herbivore and a sand-burrowing creature
Demon mode is clearly, beyond any reasonable doubt, supernatural in nature. Much like Longsword's spirit moves and Hunting Horn's music. The obsession some fans have to ignore all the clearly supernatural elements in MH because they don't like the idea of the setting being "magical" is fairly pointless.
@@lumendrake2265my cope on this is that it’s bio energy/kinship. If you weren’t already familiar with kinship, it’s an energy in mhst that charges up as the fight progresses ( hitting attacks, pulling off head to heads, healing,). Kinship can be utilized by telling your monstie partner to use abilities or you yourself the rider can use it for abilities. Hunters in mhst2 can also use kinship to pull off powerful attacks. So my theory is that stuff like demon mode and the spirit nonsense for long sword is just building up kinship/bio energy and using it for these abilities.
@@initjum YEAH it was about the diablos one, tyvm /pos
Also I remember hearing that someone died in the unsafe stunt for the last resident evil movie he made, I didn't realize they only lost their arm, the fact he was fighting against paying for hospital bills is insane
No, someone did die. AN extra was crushed by an SUV. And Olivia Jackson didn't just lose her arm, her FACE was degloved (if you don't know what that means, don't look it up. Its best you don't know) and she has permanent nerve damage
@Elk yo why isnt paul w s Anderson in prison he got one person killed and the other got their arm chopped off and barely made it out with half of their face. Wtf
@@azenar1894 Him not being in jail is especially baffling when you realize the reason he didn't want to give the payout was because he lied about putting insurance on the actors. That's straight up fraud.
@@elk3407degloved and face sounds already ugly enough. Guess i need to Look it up
@@elk3407even if he did the most he'd get is a slap on the wrist like most people in Hollywood
As soon as I saw the military I knew it was going to be garbage. We need more people that are fans or at least respect the source material to make movies, this was to easy to mess up.
Like the people who made the Monsterverse movies.
@@beastmaster0934 Yep you can tell they love Godzilla, and I’d rather have too much of a good thing over this mess that could’ve been any movie.
iirc I believe the military actually gives money to movies that star and hype them up.
@@Castersvarog😂 They must of funded the whole thing. Very strange for a fantasy movie
If I had a quarter for every Video Game movie with an Isekai Plot…
Hey, at least Sonic is a Reverse-Isekai.
The fact that this film was directed by the same man who was responsible for the Resident Evil films makes a little too much sense. I heard that and instantly went like, "Okay, yup, that explains a lot".
When the trailer pf this movie was announced... And the part where the director's name was shown.
I kid you not, all hopes been lost.
Definitely laughed out loud when you were like "it's so much worse". I have no idea who this movie was made for--if you're not a monhun fan, it's just okay, and if you are a monhun fan, it's just so insanely at odds with the tone & appeal of the series for most players. The monsters are the stars of the game!!! And they don't even get them right, the most important part!!! I could forgive a cheesy plot if the monsters were good (i really like Legends of the Guild), but man.
bruh my dad knows nothing about monster hunter apart from the fact that its a game.. and even he thought it was a boring and trashy movie!
My younger brother isn't a Monster Hunter fan (though he IS a bigger movie buff than I am). He hated it as much as I did.
I'm not much of a movie goer, I did like the first 2 live action films for the RE series the director of this shiz made. (It was atleast a decent adaptation... But everything went down after that...)
Meanwhile my dad likes B-grade movies and old classics like, terminator, the blob, etc... And he knows the premise of the games being "Hunting Monsters"... And you know what...
Both of us are disappointed and mortified on how bad the movie is. And just like he said "I'd rather watch the predator movies than rewatch this." And I couldn't agree more.
Ive not seen people say this but the monsters are WAY too big
I remember having a conversation with a relative who jokingly rented this film to see my reaction when I watched it. I told them "this film has nothing to make fun of" for the sake of being polite. Not long after did they realize what I actually meant with those words summed up as "there was nothing make fun of.... because there was literally nothing at all in the film aside from an unsubtle focus on Anderson's wife being in Walmart-budget cosplay"
Imagine if they just did a natgeo style documentary instead of a movie I feel like it would've done 10 times better
So What Oceaniz is doing?
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 yea just with realistic cgi and how on some shows they show it from like a smaller animals perspective
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 nch productions steve and bazelgeuse
@@klaushassen3954 or common tea shark
The depiction of the monsters in this movie tend to be split between people genuinely liking them or hating them even worse than World Lavasioth.
I’m very much on the latter side.
For the Diablos, it is imo the least offending monster in the movie. It gets mad, and attacks things by smashing into them; you cannot mess that up. Yet they still find a way to. It is _irritatingly_ slow in the movie. Like, finding footage of Diablos in-game and slowing it down to 0.25x speed levels of slow. And I think that is the reprecussion of making the monsters ~2x bigger than they should be, since both it and Rathalos have that issue.
Nerscylla is treated the worst in this movie. Not only does it barely resemble its in-game counterpart, it also acts completely different. Having them be a dumb swarm of The Mist spiders just makes them completely into evil movie villains, when the original in-game monster was just an animal fulfilling its part of the food chain. Why do they live in massive swarms? So their immense numbers and resource requirements could wipe out the local ecosystem and thus SD themselves? How can such a large swarm live in the desert? Do they filter their food from the sand, or photosynthesize their energy into existance (Obviously not the latter, because for some reason they _can’t_ tolerate sunlight - something basic insects in the real world can do easily)? There is a reason why the biggest eusocial animals in MH proper are the barely human-sized Neopterons. And why in the love of god do they lay eggs in living prey? So a fire-based prey item can cook an entire generation of them for free? Having them be parasitic for the sake of “scary evil insect!” is the dumbest decision they can make. It makes no sense lore-wise, ecology-wise, and works only to completely disrespect the source material that so graciously let them put their filthy mid-movie conjuring paws all over it. It makes the same amount of sense as a live-action Marvel movie having Spiderman lay his brood in the chest cavity of a random civillian. F* off with that.
For Rathalos, a lot of people call the “hit here to explode” weakness a cool quirk the movie added. But it isn’t. If all you need to kill an _apex predator_ is to release enough heat at a very commonly occuring window of time, then every fire element monster ever would 1v1 it. Freaking Kut-ku, the Rath slayer. That quirk is just another dumb gimmick they invented on the spot to rob time out of actually featuring the monsters of _Monster Hunter,_ and instead focus screen time into “random military person walking across large stretches of land.” Not to mention if _heat_ were to insta-kill a Rathalos, then what is stopping the _flames it shoots out from its weakpoint_ from killing it?
And the biggest flaw of the movie is that it turns the series staple of long, 15 - 20 minute hunts for newcomers into easy “hit this spot and you win in 10 seconds” snoosefests. Actually _hunt the monsters_ in a movie called _”Monster Hunter,”_ based off of the game series _”Monster Hunter,”_ made in collaboration with the series installment titled _”Monster Hunter_ World.”
pretth funny cause i like world lavasioth. had no problem grindimg him so i could get the cool spartan themed armor it had.
Oh boi, that synopsis is fucking wild.
Yeah, I'm never touching that shit.
Monsters>>>Military/10
One bad thing about movie rathalos (more the writing around it) is from what I’ve seen, the movie doesn’t seem to keep its “windup” for his breath consistent. When he tries to torch Artemis, it takes so long that he gets interrupted both times. But against the military it’s instant or takes like a second
@@evolvingdragon1793its also a time waste
@@Exel3nce which would you rather watch the Netflix movie or the live action and no "I wouldn't either of them" answer pick one
@@evolvingdragon1793 mh, i liked rathalos in the live action....so i guess that?
@@Exel3nce I have no words, may I ask what you didn't like about the Netflix movie
Edit: I know it's not perfect but it was a good game movie in my opinion
that’s because she has self-insert plot armour lol
One of the few praises this movie gets its getting The look of the monsters right. And i agree to a small extent, rathalos and Diablos look great. Unfortunately, nercylla is my FAVORITE MONSTER and the absolute travesty that is this movies butchering of my cool spider ruins what ever good faith this movie gets for "accurate designs". That's not nercylla, nercylla has a bright pearl white carapace, bright blue eyes, a purple cloak, brought purple poison crystals, a bright orange accents, it had personality with its colors and design. This slander had muted green eyes and black everything else and zero personality, lived in a hive despite being solitary monsters, were afraid of sunlight which made no sense, and to top it all lived in a desert which it doesn't! Unless your talking about shrouded nercylla which this clearly isn't because the only real color this spider has is a muted PURPLE crystal
It even caused the nerscylla to have there own chestbursters 😭
”who am I to pretend my ideas are superior?”
Dude.. At this point literally anything would be superior to that dumpster fire of a movie...
Heck, even Legends of the Guild was, despite all it’s graphical shortcomings and rushed pacing- ultimately better take on movie adaptation of MH universe(and it even expanded upon backstories of already existing characters, so there’s that)
Live Actions of Series I love have always hurt me! This was not to be trusted once it showed it’s face. I’m glad I’ve finally learned not to give chances to these… things.
Edit: thinking back on it, Only The Sonic Movies have not disappointed me surprisingly!
I think it's bc the Sonic movies tried to be a watchable theater tier movie first and foremost, where as so many of these VG adaptations tried erroneously to bring a damned interactive small screen game onto the big screen, where the audience is 100% the passenger instead of the driver. If you're gonna have a captive audience, your product needs to be a curated 7 course meal, w a beginning middle and end.
You already made a MUCH better Monster Hunter movie plot. Your video "The Nature of Monster Hunter World - The Forbidden Episode" IS a much better Monster Hunter Movie plot. Your story telling was amazing and I was constantly on edge while watching. If they make that into a movie, I'm sure it would be amazing
The way how they kill Rathalos doesn't even make sense. The liquids and whatever the Fire monsters use only ignites when exposed to air.
Because otherwise they would be killing themselves constantly by trying to spit some Fire.
4:20, technically the Geralt quest exists in MHW
I told myself the same thing, but this particular quest works because travelling to different worlds is a thing in The Witcher so it's believable, but neither our world nor Monster Hunter's one allow such a thing so it kinda comes out of nowhere here in my opinion.
They really killed aiden off in thr most disrespectful way possible as if he didnt fight fatalis taking a point blank flame shower to the face.
The Monsters really sucks. And I'll help you with another details.
1. Diablos -
-The Diablos seems to be much darker and really aggressive, meaning that it's a Black Diablos. that's why it's freaking OP.
-The Wings weren't really Wings or limbs for support, like the Pseudos, but rather like a Flipper gliding flipper to thrivers the Sand seas, like Swordfishes. That's why they were kinda useless in the game and the Diablos, even the Monoblos, Only uses its Body, Head and Feets to damage.
-In the movie, it sees Tony Ja(Some says that he's the Field team leader from World.) from like 50 meters away, the Diablos freaking stare kill him. Diablos in general are freaking near sighted creatures and locate your location by using the sand movements and sounds that's why it is sensitive and weak on Sonic bombs, not Flash bombs.
2. Nerscylla
-It sucks. They were supposed to be colorful, suggesting that they're venomous and make you sleep. And it should have some purplish pallets, not an 8-legged monster reference.
-And the adults, should have some flesh skin armors, means they've hunted Gypceros and Khezu(If they're were even endemic on that area on the first place).
-They can also walk out of the sun. They're not Bats.
3. Rathalos-
-Some people, suggests that the Rathalos is a Variant for the Dreadking Rathalos (Unless it's like the most accurate picture of it, which is yeah.) That's why it has more wing membrane patterns, bright skins and Massive size than a normal Rathalos.
-That's why it residents on the Tower locale, because Only the most OP Elder dragons, Variants and Apex creatures can inhabits on that area, it also suggest that it is One of the residents of that area. Luckily, they didn't encounter a freaking Teostra or even a Alatreon.
4. Apceros-
-I got no words for the adorable brown spiky ankys.
5. Cephalos
-Okay, Cephalos lives almost on All desert biomes, except where the Jhen Mohrans live(Near Val habar), which suggests the geography that the Cephalos are in the area lives with the Dahren Mohran, which is good. For MH4U players, it's accurate and acceptable.
6. Dahren Mohran
-Yeah, that's a Massive whale.
I rlly loved the ratha design tho and the diablos,
If Diablos is so nearsighted then why can it spot me from across half a map before getting aggro’d and charging at me?
And yes I’m referring to the pre-world games.
@@emblemblade9245 Tremor In sand.... The movie proved that
"pseudos" should really just be called "quadrupedal" wyverns imo; fanged wyverns are just drakes
I'm curious to hear your ideas and to hear your opinions on Legends of the Guild.
It certainly wasn't perfect and had some serious pacing issues (it was originally planned as a series and instead is a 60 minute "movie") but I really enjoyed it.
*That* imo is a movie for MonHun fans. I'd just hope a potential sequel would have better pacing and more original or compelling characters to make it appeal to a wider audience as well.
Though, I showed it to some friends and family who aren't familiar with the series and they really liked the monster designs and thought the movie was fun, so it might not even have too much to fix
Yeah, Legends of the Guild really felt like a first episode of a series when I watched it. I really wish Capcom went through with that.
Still, what we got was already better than the live action movie.
Ay, legends of the guild may just be a middle of the road type of movie, but its real monster hunter with all the cheese that comes along with it.
The worst part for me was was Tony Jaa's Hunter had an inkling of a better movie within the the confines of this crap piece. I can imagine Jaa playing a guy who lost his wife and child to a monster, him being filled with hate and vengeance, and then recognizing the hunter's place in the ecosystem.
But no... We get W.S. Anderson bastardizing another Capcom property to make another action movie about his wife.
If they want to make a new monster hunter movie, it should be animated. Cause I feel like you’d be able to show the monsters a lot better than with live action. But what would be the coolest thing is like a nature documentary based around the monsters. Now that would make a lot of monster hunter fans very happy
Not just animated... Actually consult either the community or the devs.
And here the producer for this sh*z show said "the movie will please the fans"... Cuz I don't see anyone, even Congalala won't touch this shiz.
@@ashurad_fox5991 That is also very much true and equally as important. Can't make something if you have no clue how it works.
The first fantastic beast film(the good one) but Monster Hunter. That is the bare minimum you need to make a decent MH movie.
@@motivateddad I haven't seen the fantastic beast films, but as longs as they show the monsters as animals but on the big side, I'd be happy.
@@sprinklesmckincles726 The first Fantastic Beasts is exactly that. The plot portrays the beasts as actual animals not as deranged monsters that most people in the movie except the MC thinks.
I come from the future to tell the entire comment section this: YOU'RE WRONG! The worst video game movie is Borderlands.
The Monster Hunter Movie is now being praised as a 'decent' film.
Thats exactly what I thought about when this showed up as a recommended video lol. I wish I had enough money to really see just how bad the borderlands movie is in theaters lol
@@henry5274it was a solid 6/10 at best.
Yea, give it some time and new age internet revisionists will do what revisionists do best and lie about the movie being "but good actually" or "misunderstood gem" like they always do in order to be hip and "counter culture".
Then said counter culture will become the opposite as more people regurgitate that same opinion and any opinion other than that will be shafted as "bad take" or "bro did not cook" by some dumbass that can't think for himself.
Can we all agree Netflix’s *Monster Hunter: Legends of the Guild* is what this movie *should* have been?
I agree, but without the people looking kind of odd and some of the people being introduced and then dying, and were meant to feel sad about them, like we have known them for ages.. Would be cool if there was another episode to it though..
@@pheonixfire9517I hope Capcom does more these to show more untold stories of characters from the Monster Hunter series.
This movie just screams AMERICA FUCK YEAH
It's kinda funny because the 1 thing I remember about this movie is the British sniper rifle lmao, so even on a "AMERICA FUCK YEAH" front it fails
I loved it when rathalos said
"it's rathin' time" and then rathed all over the place.
God it pains me to even make this comment. Its a dead meme to a dead something that's called a movie.
Truly one of the raths of all time
Funniest shit I've ever read
Anderson should get a restraining order that doesn't allow him to get within 100 meters of a Capcom property.
Watching this movie was like falling asleep after playing through the first few missions of mhw and watching a michael bay movie afterwards, then having some sort of incomprehensible dream with bits and pieces that my dumb tiny brain tries to recollect mushed together
I think it was doomed from the start by having the "military character learns how to fight big baddies from the natives" story idea
first of all, it will inevitably make the native characters look stupid and incompetent, and the military character (usually american) as smart and the only one up to the task
this usually ends up being racist :/
but also the real problem with the movie is that nerscylla is in the desert what the actual fuck is it doing there???
I watched this in theatres to a full house in Tokyo (i live in Japan, but not in tokyo, i was on vacation and decided to visit the theatre). I was SO DISAPPOINTED. I could write a thesis on all the ways this movie was awful, most of which you touch on.
Recently I had the urge to watch it again, as my MH addiction flared back up. (I just wanted to consume ANYTHING MH related). It had been long enough that i was like, surely it wasnt THAT bad........(I think it just FORGOT most of the film cuz it was just.....not memorable) Rewatching it again, I was disappionted a second time lmao. it really is that bad. I counted this time, too. 60 PERCENT INTO THE FILM and theyre sill middling around in the "exposition survival" section of the film.
To keep a long story short; my biggest issues were that it had nothing to do with the theme or feeling of a Monster Hunter game, it lacked any kind of music from the games at all, and the monster fights were generic low budget action nonsense. (The "fight" with the Rathalos involves it landing, and then milla jovovicch slicing the camera for 5 seconds before the fight ends and they go back to Earth......what the fuck?!) The wierdest part is that its weirdly accurate in certain respects; like the mosnter designs are "accurate," the guild uniforms are all accurate, she randomly does the demon mode for the twin blades for no explailable reason, aptonoths are there, the ancient civilization is there.....its bizarre theyd be accurate in certain places and then just MISS the rest of everything else.
How I would fix the film: delete the entire survival part; have the army team arrive in the MH world, get their asses kicked by Diabolos, but right before they get totally destroyed, cue Proof of a Hero and a team of Monster Hunters shows up and has a fuckin bad ass fight with the Diabolos, taking it out. As they cart the Diabolos away, the hunters explain the world to the army people. This whole segment would free up literally HALF the movie for more interesting things. Cue montage of them getting outfitted in monster hunter armor and training with their weapons, some could even use bowguns since theyd alreayd be familiar. Explain that nature is important and hunters live in a balance with it. Going out and collecting items and materials, hunting some of the smaller monster like Gendrome or something. Etc. Add in the meat cooking music, even if its just whistled, as meat is cooked lol. (That not being in the movie made me furious YOU HAD ONE JOB). The plot of them going to the tower is fine; but the entire fight with the Rathalos needs like, be actually filmed and included lol. Have them FIGHT the Rathalos. Show us moves from the game. Cut the tail off. Dodging. Drinking potions mid fight. Defeat the Rathalos in the MHWorld and then let most of the army team leave through the portal, but have the Gore Magala show up and ARtemis chooses to stay to let the others go home, and cue Proof of a Hero and then the credits as they engage the monster. (The film not having a single piece of MH music was the most egregious sin to me YOU HAD ONE JOB>!>!>>!>>>! like??!?)
ANyway yea, can you tell im still bitter?
Fucking aye this would've been millions of times better than the absolute trainwreck they shoved down our throats. Honestly, the writers and directors should just go back to school if a commentor on youtube can make an infinitely better story. I don't mean that as an insult, I mean that as a major compliment. The fact that you can make better content than 'experienced' writers and directors, shows your creativity and writing potential. Really, the only thing I didn't really care about was the lack of Monster Hunter music, but that's just a personal thing cause I usually play with Monster Hunter mute.
No my friend. WE are still bitter.
Nah, not just you. We are all still bitter.
The monster designs were probably only accurate because the dev team was all but physically breathing down Anderson's neck. We'd probably have Diablos with Raptor claws and fire breathing if they didn't.
@@winterburn2353 oh gosh, you're probably right
I really, REALLY hate how they portrayed the hunters, honestly. They feel more like cavemen or “savages” than hunters. Hunters are jovial and determined and happy to be doing what they’re doing, not scampering around in the desert (or wildspire waste, for the cultured) like they’re helpless. They’re NORMAL PEOPLE. Sigh
The thing is... 'Legends of the Guild' shows how the World COULD be shown and done!
LOG was definitely better than the mh movie, but it still could've been better tbh
I feel like Tony Jaa is an actual fan of the games. His movements match that lively animated quality that the game has, and it seems like he’s giving it his all to put make that apparent
As soon as I learned who were working on the movie, I knew it was going to be pretty bad. Anderson and Jovovich just can't be taken seriously anymore.
I'm just glad we have Legends of the Guild to watch instead, which is a good try in translating Monster Hunter into a movie format.
Hey budd. The borderlands movie just came out. Yer gonna have to change that subtitle in the thumbnail.
If Paulie wanted a 'fish out of water' main character, it was as easy as starting off in the MH world, in a peaceful little hamlet that's never had to worry about fighting. Then BOOM, one day some mysterious monster attacks, disrupting the status quo and displacing a main character or two, and they get swept up by more veteran hunters after the very monster that attacked their village. There, did that in 60 seconds. Its so _bloody_ easy to set up a good MH story, you have to make a deliberate effort to make something this bewilderingly stupid.
Geography:
Okay, the place...is really out of place. Some regions in MH really are confusing, but some are just plain common sense for Biological and Geographic nerds, like Me(Yeah).
My proposal is to showcase the places. And help you too, my friend.
1. The Great Desert
-For new MH players, people that doesn't explore the lore and areas and it's inhabitants.
The Great Desert is not Just a Desert, it had tonssss of Deserts, this desert is just a speck of dust for a much massive desert, continental size, Sand sea, size of Africa. It is located on the Western part of the MH map, it's top is the Schrade region(Where the Fatalis fight occured and MH 1 take place.)
These deserts are inhabitants of the 2 Mohrans species, Cephalos (Land sharks), Delex(Barracuda like Fin fishes and of course acts like Dolphins.) And many of the Blos species.
2. The Tower
-Actually, the wiki on MH movie refers to it as the Sky Tower(Yeah, Paul(Not me), some how mixed the 2 spiral towers on MH.
•The Tower - Where the movie is set in.
•Sky Corridor - Where it is surrounded by the sea.
So, yeah it should be the Tower. Meant that they are in "Fonlon continent". Meant that it is Located on the North Eastern most part of the Whole Map.
3. Okay, can you see what I was referring too? The Great Desert and Fonlon(Check the MH map) are in the freaking set on different continents of the Wholeeee World.
And they just like travelled for like 1 day by a "Sand Sea Land ship" a freaking sand ship to travel on a place, where it is surrounded by an Ocean, Great Forest and Filled with Apex monsters. How, the hell did they even manage to be on That place!!!!
In conclusion, the setting is set on the Sky Tower(The Tower, should have been located in the Eastern part of the Old world) surrounded by the Great desert(Located on the Western part of the Old world) meant the Game and Movie geography doesn't make any sense.
Maybe Fonron also has a Desert
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 It doesn't, it is where the Great forest is located and the Tower. And, if you play some old games like MHFU, you can see from the distance area of the Tower, it is plainly grass and forest.
the desert in the first part movie is the great desert, aka dune sea where the mohrans swim, and diablos should not be there same for nerscylla
also that map is fan-made, we don’t actually know where most of the biomes are located canonically
@@rainbowsnek True, but let's all assume that those were the places, but the Most notable regions in the map is the Great desert that made.
You know, part of the reason I play monster hunter is to escape for a minute from a world where the US military is destroying my country and life, it feels so insulting and painful to see them invade my fantasy world as well.
It's hurt so much seeing the most beloved world to me being tarnised by them
Diablos swimming through SAND should be the proof of it's scale hardness you need.
when i saw the trailer, i already know its not going to sound interesting.. but, its that random rumor about the related to tower lore that forced me to watch, sadly,
yes its still awesome to see rathalos destroy shit, but i also prefer seeing the guy hunter hunt the wyvern than seeing isekai stuff, that woman..is an extra oof
The meowscular chef was the part of the movie that I enjoyed the most.
I bet I could solo that whole military group using my monster hunter character.
Hmmm, humans killing huge ass monster and wailing their huge hammer around like its nothing. They dont tire and they dont stop, and they have a tribal society with mythical like essence.HMMMMMM LETS GET THE MILITARY HERE, THAT'LL GET MY WIFE IN THERE!
Fun fact. The iceborne data book canonizes Fatalis using wormholes just for this movie. Unfortunate
Can Fatalis pop over and wipe everything out?...PLEASE?
@@NeroLordofChaos gore would do it better tbh. I’ve never really thought of Fatalis as a kill everything type of monster
Thank you for the TW for Arachnophobia, saved me there
I will never not find it hilarious that Capcom went in, criticised the Diablos initial design (as it was actually revised) for looking too predatory with its claws and other features being tweaked yet it still looks incredibly meh. I still don't get why its horns are so pointy and it really weirds me out having fought Diablos so often.
Glad that Capcom has been actively distancing itself from the movie though, as they should.
Yeah, Capcom didn't even bother trying to keep the MH movie crossover in Iceborne when it disappeared.
Why am I getting a feeling Capcom may or may not treat this movie like how Toho treated the 1998 (God)zilla? Just a random thought I have.
Honestly, I feel like there was already a perfectly serviceable movie plot they could have used with the backstory of the rule of 4, the old wyverian from 1 and his party preparing for and dealing with Lao Shan Lung. A sort of prequel to the whole franchise and giving Lao a serious glow-up would have been great. I am really interested to see you're idea though.
My biggest complaint is that they added in a Gore Magala for NO REASON WHATSOEVER. Like, they could've had such a fantastic story involving the Magalas and whatnot, ending with a big climactic battle with either a Shagaru or Chaotic Gore Magala. They could've touched upon the maddening virus they give to other monsters. But no. We got a tiny little cameo that had little to no exposition. They could've done something great here and it makes me so mad.
It doesn't even have to be about the Magalas. Other elder dragons could've been included, or have a story revolving around the history of Shraed and its quarrel with Fatalis as a prequel of sorts. They could have had ANY other person direct this movie.
I honestly want a movie about some rookie who moved from the main cities out into the villages and his journey or a movie on a researcher and his journey throughout the frontier
I got these vague ideas in my head wanting to see a story about someone who witnessed the destruction of loc lac city set right between the 2 generations, or a different story involving an endgame hunter going off the deep end and going rogue in some manner, going on the run from the guild.
maybe a sequel to your idea lol
By the way, there is a fan fiction that has a character researching some old stuff that you might be interested in. it’s in the sequel to the lost civilisation, I haven’t read either though in a long time however and genuinely can’t remember how good they were, they are in my mind but it could be rose glasses idk
(main plot for TLC was humans from real world getting frozen in crystals and waking up in the apocalyptic future, aka MH universe)
It's such a shame the actress gets thrown into terrible movie adaptions of video games. She was actually quite good in The Fifth Element
it's not like they forced her to do it
I've been saying this and will keep saying this. Give Monster Hunter a TV show, make it a monster of the week type thing.
And being dark for some Change (while also using some of the lore of the Franchise)
@@Exel3nce yes or maybe lean into the ecology world introduced and make a docuseries akin to oceaniz's videos
Honestly as a fanfic writer I want to rewrite the thing. Keep the whole isekai thing. But have more of the soldiers survive and not be so stupid. As well as to the reason as to why modern weapons don't work. Mostly in my opinion is because the rounds are so small. And the hide to thick. It would be like getting stung by a bee then having any real force to them.
Bullets hit very hard because of the speed at which they are shot. If a Bullet isn't hurting the diablos, then an arrow isn't going to do anything and forget about swinging a weapon at it. It's one of the many reasons that people don't like the isekai angle; They introduced a militaristically superior option and randomly claimed it doesn't work. If they had to isekai in Jovovich and she needed to be able to fight, then they could have made her a civilian martial arts enthusiast.
@@alduinthetyrant5225 but you got to remember that they have bullets in the monster hunter universe too. And the monsters don't take much damage from them either. And those bullets are about the size of a human hand if I remember correctly. So I think the size comparison of it being like a bee sting fits. Plus these are creatures that can tank their own explosions and those of other monsters. I think my argument has some weight to it about bullets meant to be used on humans would be to small to really effect the monsters of the Monster Hunter universe.
@@ryu433 While I agree that the bowguns fire larger shots than most handheld firearms, I have to defer back to the speed of the shots used. The projectiles used by bowguns travel very slowly in comparison to modern guns and lack the same piercing power. Piercing ammo does since that is how it works in game, but introducing real world things means introducing real world logic. I can't speak for you, but I would lose all suspension of disbelief if I watched a piercing shot traveling at thirty mph towards a monster, pierce it's brain, and travel through it's entire body while doing miniscule damage.
As for the monsters size influencing damage, your statement is both true and false. While the larger body and increased toughness would make flesh wounds ineffective, organ damage doesn't depend on shot size. To use your analogy; a bee sting won't hurt much, but a bee stinger sized projectile piercing your eye, brain, heart, etc will still be lethal or at least severely damaging.
I brought this idea up for a MH/RWBY crossover. Instead of the typical Isekai angle, openings between the worlds began opening up and serious MH wildlife center them to explore new territories and because the population of both settings are relatively low this goes unnoticed for a long while. Eventually more classic monsters come through to establish themselves. It's basically the plot that BBC show Primeval.
The extra twist though is that the residents of Remnant discover that the MH monsters are very effective in dispatching Grimm and don't really target humans all that much.
What do you guys think with this premise?
@@dalekrenegade2596 that sounds like something more into monster hunter stories then normal monster hunter. Because I could see hunter schools have a class on wyvern taming and things like that. But it more relying on the aura of the person then kinship stones.
I think that the Legends of the Gild was a best way to show a MH move to any new people and they would still understand the world batter then this move.
its kind of funny how armor piercing rounds dont work on the monsters when in game shooting them with bone chips and coconuts is one of the most effective ways to fight
I want a monster hunter documentary show like prehistoric planet
I... I think this might be the Espi-nap that I NEVER wake up from...
MH4U’s intro cutscene is a better movie than this, scratch that EVERY MH intro cutscene is a better movie than this
They couldn't really decide where this movie is supposed to take place in the MH universe.
It is supposed to take place in the new world, but the new world doesn't have like a open empty desert like the old world does.
Also the movie shows Cephalos, a completely inaccurate Nerscylla and a Dahren Mohran skeleton.
All those monster are not found in the new world so far.
If that scene in the Nercylla layer would've been from a different movie, it could've been very good if you ask me.
That moment with this one soldier being "injected" with offspring felt very Alien-esque and was genuinly unnerving.
This movie had some actual ok moments, but man the whole thing thrown together was terrible and lazy movie making. Leaving all the in lore issues aside, for example: That one "inside the thrown vehicle" camera shot was used three fucking times in the span of 20 minutes.
The monster hunter movie should have been a nature documentary for a 1/3 of it then an elder dragon shows up (it could be any) then we see hunters track it, study it, then fight a couple other monsters to get the gear and weapons then kill it.
This movie hurt itself just as much as Chaotic Gora Magala.
(For context Chaotic Gore is a Variant of Gore Magala that occurs when another Gore matures into Shageru Magala and then spreads a version of the Frenzy Virus that causes other Gore Magala that try and turn into Shageru into half complete monstrosities and they are in constant pain due to this cut short transformation, to the point where honestly the hunters killing it could be considered a mercy kill to put it out of it's misery.)
My favourite part of the movie is how clearly it was trying to recreate the success of the resident evil movie. An action-horror-monster movie based on a popular Capcom game starring mila jovovitch that was released in October, it’s the exact same thing. The resi movies were also very successful in china by the end of their run, which is why the film has several different Chinese production companies attached to it.
It managed to completely shoot itself in the foot in both aspects. The successful in china part is obvious, it being banned is the thing the movie is most known for.
On trying to recreate resi’s success, resident evil films were nominally zombie movies with freaky body horror monsters, but weren’t hardcore enough to really be horror movies, and we’re light film viewing around the halloween season for people who wanted a horror fix.
It might be obvious to say, but monster hunter is NOT that. It’s not a horror series, which is why the spider part of the film feels so disconnected from the rest of it. It is attempting to apply the horror aspect of resident evil to monster hunter, and it does not work because monster hunter monsters are bright and colourful, which is probably why they went with diablos and completely redesigned nerscylla, and the only reason rathalos is barely changed is because Capcom didn’t want them to
Also, it’s really worth mentioning that all the stuff at the end, the stuff that feels like monster hunter, including the bad costume hunters? Those were all reshoots, which is why they look cheap and terrible and there’s barely any of it
This was saddening, can you imagine the people who actually waited for this movie to come out. Me niether
Wait, what was that about Paul W. S. Anderson causing a stunt woman to lose her arm? I didn't even know about that! Still, I'm pretty much worried about what Paul might do for this sequel... They screwed up when it came to the monsters in this movie, I can only dread to think what might happen to the monsters he might bring up there. Why couldn't Capcom allow a director to make a nature documentary style movie/series involving the Monster Hunter monsters outside of the hunts instead of hiring Paul W.S. not paying for hospital bills Anderson for a movie?
The fact that their excuse for the multiverse plot was "to help viewers relate" was genuinely defended by actual fans prior to the movie premiering is hilarious in hindsight. I knew it was gonna suck. You knew it was gonna suck. We ALL knew, but so many people were such copium addicts lol
I'm so glad my only interaction with this movie was just playing the quests in MHW
You didn't mention that you cant kill rathalos by shoting in the mouth . He has flame sac.
My idea for an alternative to this film:
Our Hunter falls off the boat due to Diablos being in a feud with each other. They’re moving every which way and the ship just can’t dodge them while they’re butting heads. Our man, rightfully scared, avoids them like the plague and makes his way into a cave.
This cave belongs to a Shrouded Nerscylla whom has an egg sac. She’s preparing food for her unborn young and is being the anxious lil bug we know & love. Soon as our man enters the cave, she literally boots him out, only for one of the Diablos to bust through the sand and send our man right back where he came from.
Shrouded Nerscylla, concerned for her eggs, skitters away because “fuck that noise” and simply glues our man at the entrance to the cave. Let’s face it, she knows she can’t get rid of him, all she’s doing now is making sure her future babies don’t die. Around the cave we see Rust Duramburos, a bunch of Gypceros which seem to be seriously old, and a couple Khezu. Our girl’s being a great momma in making sure her babies are well fed, so she’s mostly just waiting for the storm and Diablos fighting to subside.
As our man breaks the webbing he’s trapped in, he sets to just eating some jerky, since he knows he’ll be here a while. Just from the entrance can he see the cacti which are being fought over, telling him all he needs to know about the Diablos. The dialogue will be *nonexistent* ! No narration, no stupid army song, *maybe* our boy praying, but no dialogue.
The storm passes, surprise Fucken surprise, and he’s once again thrown into the damn desert because Shrouded Nerscylla wants no part of his ‘scrawny’ self! Able to actually do things, he comes to spy an approaching school of Delex. Armed with Dual Blades, he sets to getting himself some lunch and fights the bane of my existence (NO I’M NOT BITTER). Having excess Delex meat, he carries it back to the Shrouded Nerscylla cave. He’s by no means thrilled to be near the ant lion-spider hybrid, however the Diablos Tis a beastie best left unchallenged in the blazing daylight on its home terf. He’s underprepared due to being knocked off his ship, so we’re mostly following him plan to detain the Diablos if not outright kill it.
Between the numerous rocky outcrops of the desert, we see a myriad of spider webs, evidence towards the Shrouded Nerscylla’s avoiding the Diablos in her area. This also explains how she got Gypceros and Khezu when she’s-seemingly-trapped in her cave.
Preparing for his journey, our hunter gives some of the Delex to the Shrouded Nerscylla and cuts a bunch of webs off himself. Essentially getting himself caught over and over again by a rightfully paranoid mama, he fashions himself a cloak of spider silk and Delex skin to help fight the night chill. We then behold him wandering the desert in a beautifully shot montage of the landscape’s majesty and the beasties within, our man taking pauses to rest near the rocky outcroppings during the day. Unfortunately, we know better than to assume that he’s fine, and during said montage, we see him fighting Jaggi, some perturbed Rhenoplos, a Nibelsnarf and even a Qurupeco.
This is our action segment, showing us his nightly march through the desert and his daily battles for survival. It’s unorthodox, yet it pads out the runtime and shows the beasties in their environment just doing their own thing before they notice our man failing to avoid them due to his sticking out like a sore thumb.
As the movie ends, however, he’s switched from using Dual Blades to an improvised Switch Axe made from Rhenoplos Shell, Nibelsnarf jaws and Qurupeco & Jaggi bits all working together. I also thought about him making Tonfas or a Magnet Spike (there’s gotta be some lodestone in those rocky outcrops, right?), yet that’s up to y’all.
His journey ends at an oasis, where he spies the ship from before and finds his pals waiting by a campfire, greeting him pleasantly and welcoming him back with open arms as well as bright smiles. They ruffle his hair, slap him on the back and give him something to drink aside from monster juices, and he sits down to tell them the story in some gibberish conlang nobody’s gonna understand aside from the cast. Our credits roll when a distant roar tells us there’s a Barroth not far from them, making our man gesture that it’s the party’s turn to deal with bullshit, getting them to laugh and grab their things while he takes a well-deserved nap with a palico who’d clearly been missing him.
Did he even hunt any monsters?
@@emblemblade9245 More like they were hunting him since he got booted off the boat
I would definitely be down for hearing your ideas for a MH Movie.
Bonus points if you pitch it as sequel to the one discussed here and how it could potentially improve on it's ideas.
I watched it day 1 in theaters. When I got home I ranted for 40+ minutes in a discord call with other MH nerds and not a single person liked what I described. Talked 6 people out of watching it.
As much as I agree that some people just dislike certain movies on a whim, there are plenty of reasons for someone to come to these conclusions before seeing the film.
With this movie as an example we can simply look at Hollywood's history of disrespecting video game IPs when adapting them into shows or movies. We have examples like the old Mario movie, the halo tv show, the doom movie, etc. It usually boils down to the director using iconography from the franchise they're adapting to please the fans without the context or understanding of why people liked it in the first place. It may be unfair to the movie to expect that without seeing it, but it's happened too many times to simply ignore it as a possibility.
We can also look at the director for a clue of what to expect. Paul W.S. Anderson has claimed himself a long time fan of monster hunter, so that bodes well for accuracy or at the very least passion. Unfortunately, we also have previous projects of his to consider. Anderson was the director for the Resident Evil movies, movies held in very low regard by resident evil fans for their treatment of the source material. Anderson has a strategy in which he gets the rights a video game IP cheaply and casts his wife, Mila Jovovich, as the star so that they get double billing for the project. The result is that she is inserted into these IPs as his amazing OC (please don't steal) to shit all over the existing characters. Since he doesn't care about much besides making her look good the rest of his movies usually fall to the wayside. As an example: we know Capcom personally stepped in during production to try and correct both the mannerisms and the design of the black diablos (which Anderson stated outright he didn't care about because he was focused on Mila). Why this wasn't done for the nerscylla I don't know.
With these things considered, I think people's trepidation towards the monster hunter movie was well earned. They were proven right, after all, and I am certainly glad I didn't spend money going to see myself.
Edit: I paused after your comment about not judging movies prematurely to type this comment, but you discussed most of this yourself. Good job.
I dislike them making it a generic “modern army vs mystery creature” but there was 2 events in world before this movie, the witcher, and final fantasy
NCH Production is much better, change mah mind
No one can change your mind. Even the Fatalis Time is a Masterpiece than this degenerate movie.
The Bazelgeuse/Seregios short lives in my head rent free.
I think the Isekai premise could've worked well if:
1. It wasn't some stupid magic tower, but some weird experiment in our world that hit the soldiers. Make the trip "one way", and you might have had a good opening premise for the "isekai" portion.
2. The soldiers aren't completely obliterated within the opening of the movie. They have firepower ON PAR with what we see in the game franchise. Namely, the BOWGUN lines (heavy and light both use explosive ammo, which is typically pretty effective on most monsters... I think even on Diabolos, he's weak to it, but I'd have to check to know for sure). The reason you don't obliterate them early is for a couple reasons. The first is that you could have them all trained to hunt monsters and they all adopt a different weapon style (which would be a fun nod to the series), the second is that you can bring up the very real problem of "our guns have limited ammo, therefore, are only useful in small amounts, and we HAVE to adopt the weaponry of this place". You know, to avoid the idiotic trope of "guns and grenades do nothing to the monsters". I'd have the Diablos kill one or two people, take enough damage to "break" some parts off of it (like in the game!) and then they escape in their vehicles. Since, you know, the vehicles are actually far faster and more manuverable than Diablos in the games is.
3. The soldiers end up at a village where they have trouble accepting them since they're just so weird. But, upon hearing that they broke off some parts of Diablos and fought it, they could decide that such people should become "Hunters". Maybe you have some minor tension here as these are effectively strangers with different viewpoints and ideologies or something. But, you could have a section where they hand off their weapons and armor and other equipment to the local smith to have it analyzed or even broken down for parts for new armor or weapons. After all, what they brought is designed specifically to kill people and protect themselves from being killed by people. It isn't useful for fighting monsters.
4. We get a training montage of each soldier getting the basic "Village Clothing" you start every game with as well as their own "basic version" of weapon from the games. I would've given our lead hero, Jovovich, a Light Bowgun, rather than her sword stuff. She looks stupid carrying the melee weapon stuff in this movie, so I would've given her a Bowgun. That's the first reason. The second reason being that you could then use her as an excuse to show off the "gathering" of supplies and "crafting in the field". She would need to rely heavily on the environment for what she could do, which would also paint her as a "resourceful" character, on the look out for advantages and supplies at every opportunity. Show her crafting some ammo and maybe a couple antidotes or something. Maybe, for the finale, she crafts the "bomb barrels" and uses them as a trap for a different monster (I'd suggest an Elder Dragon of some kind, rather than Rath or Diablos like we got). The training montage could complete with them going back out to where Diablos had parts broken off of it in order to retrieve those pieces to craft new equipment. It would be their "final test" or something.
5. Then, we get two hunts after that. The film could imply they've been hunting more, but we'd get two specific hunts. The second one would be the Diablos (because it tends to either be a mid or late game hunt in most of the franchise, due to how dangerous and powerful it is). The first hunt could be anything decently interesting to look at. I don't know that I'd use a Rathian or Rathalos for it, but you probably could. I might use something as an "early hunt" in the franchise instead, so you could do some character building, show off what role each soldier plays in the hunt, and show how they "come to grips" with fighting and harvesting from these monsters for better gear.
6. The culmination of the film could be that the soldiers come to care about the village, everyone in it, and also want to study how the world works. What is the weird thing going on and how is it connected to the Elder Dragon of the location? The soldiers defeat Diablos and the villagers are happy about it because now that the area is clear, they can send other Hunters and researchers in to figure out what is going on with the shift in ecology of the area or whatever... Whatever the Elder Dragons are doing in the movie (use your imagination!). The first encounter with the Elder Dragon could even go very badly. You could lose another soldier or two. Or, have them severely wounded and "out of the fight". Something to get the party down from like 20, to like 4 (a nod to the games!). So, Jovovich concocts a trap for the Dragon. They use Bomb Barrels to start the fight and weaken it or something, and then everyone slips into their roles during the fight. We see them dodging, using grapples or dodge rolls or whatever. We see them block attacks. We see them crafting on the fly, potions and smoke bombs and whatever the heck else might make the fight interesting. Jovovich maybe discovers that the Elder Dragon is weak to "Dragon Ammo" or something and just happens to spot one of the very rare plants that allows her to craft the ammo on the fly. She uses that ammo to "open the dragon up" to further attacks, maybe knocking it down for a stun. The other soldiers then dogpile it and maybe sever a tail and break some horns on it. When it gets back up, it goes into "Enrage" and starts messing them up. Maybe one of the 4 has to have emergency treatment and is carted back to camp. The remaining 3 then use a flashbomb or something to momentarily stop the Enrage and Jovovich hits the creature with the Dragon ammo again, and we get a second stun. The Soldiers finish the creature off and breathe a sign of relief. They begin carving their kill and then a member of the Village comes in all frazzled. More of their kind have showed up to the village, looking for the first of them! And then we get to hear a very ominous (and hopefully very familiar!) call of another Elder Dragon nearby. We could then allude to THAT Elder Dragon being the actual problem... and cut to credits for sequel bait. That sequel bait hook basically being the "Waiting for DLC experience" most new players to the series would have.
I think that would've made the Isekai part of the movie far more interesting and probably would've made a much cooler Monster Hunter movie.
Fans: Monster Hunter Games have a basic but enjoyable enough story. They can't get any worse at least
Paul: Hold my beer
It's so sad. It could have been a movie about a group of hunters investigating an ecological disturbance that threatens the safety of their town. Monsters start acting out of whack and encroach on the town's territory. A group of hunters get sent out to investigate. They follow some clues, fight some monsters, hide from others, etc. They follow the trail to the source and oh my god it's an Elder Dragon. Now they have to try and find a way to kill it to protect the town and the ecosystem. It writes itself, but instead we got this.
Ok Paul W.S. Anderson is the director of this movie, and that military woman is milla jovovich, HIS WIFE. Dude ever since RE movie he seemingly got this fetish of putting his wife in every movie he makes, and make her the protagonist. Like bruh just look at his movies he's directed
its funny, both RE and MH are franchise of capcom, having Milla in all the movies it was like, REALLY? AGAIN?
@@willyshoyosjoya4898 probably its because of their higher ups being old. And giving their franchises to be adapted by the same guy. Like capcom themselves look at this film and said "yes this is good." And i heard that they only pointed out Diablos's horns being too pointy and should be more rounded because they live on the sands. Like ok capcom now how about fix everything else?
@@clementfermn6711 i still have the hope, that maybe someday, Capcom will give one of their IPs to a competent company and make a good live action movie
@@willyshoyosjoya4898 probably. But hey its fun to see other people lose their shit about it.
Outside of fetishism, he also does it so that they get payed for both the director and lead actress role. It's kind of a scam to be honest.
When MH Rise came to console and my friends and I got back into MH, we decided to get drunk and watch the movie to see how bad it was. We didn't even make it to the Rathalos part of the movie. Took like 3 tries to fully watch it. And if this is a passion project, I would hate to see a movie where the director isn't trying
Watch the resident evil movies and pay attention to Albert Whesker. You'll get the idea.
Please read monster hunter orange if you can
Edit: its by Mashima Hiro
Ita alright but theres also bullcrap in that too, like wind element.
@@an3582 ok
@@an3582 Also the manga made the same mistake this movie did by depicting Diablos as if they're predatory animal (there was a scene of Diablos carrying a dead Cephadrome on its *mouth*. Even ignoring its diet, never once Diablos attack by biting, the same scene could've been Diablos carried/punctured Cephadrome with its horns and it would've have made more sense)
It honestly would've been nice to have a documentary series about the Monster Hunter world, following researchers' findings and the like. Be in the field with a hunter squad, documenting and researching the ecosystem. Have a season in each biome or continent, ya know something cool?!
"Has, so far never veered into straight up magic"
Mh Crossovers : hi
Not defending the movie obviously but..yea. Even if not the "magic genre" MH has definitely dabbled in the crossover/ "Multiversal" genre. Heck we see it every game. World SPECIALLY with the Final Fantasy and Whitcher crossovers.
Those are non-canon
That's the thing though. The FFXIV collab and Witcher collab clearly displays that these events happened because of magic from OUTSIDE the MH world. The movie shows magic from either the MH world or an unspecified and distant power. An argument could be made for Resonance in the twins of Rise (and possibly the diva in 4U) but that, to me, is more psychic powers than straight up magic.
@@Antiling_the_Squidkid Perhaps to there original franchises they are. But...they happened in the MHW's story, they are canon to it, meaning they are canon to MHW, which is obviously canon to the main series.
And plus...let's not go down that hole of "what is canon to MH or not" like..seriously, the "canonisity" (or lack there of, for the most part) is about as straightforward as Warhammer's. They play it VERY lose.
The crossover and collaborations are not canon. They are just there for fun and extra bonus content.
If they were canon that would mean the people of MH play Yu-gi-Oh, watch Sailor Moon and know various other anime and manga, have Mario mushrooms growing somewhere in their world, have shards of the Tri-Force laying around, as well having the characters from Fairy Tail be a boat ride away from visiting them if were take the collab quest descriptions and what we see have seen as canon.
This just to name a few examples.
If in a future game there is an NPC who is there as an easter egg for World who is either a retired Commission Fleet member or perhaps even the Field Team Leader's parents or sister, mentions something that sounds like Behemoth and Leshen then we will know it's canon.
@@joseluissilva6027 Yeah no... The devs confirmed in an interview that this may have happened in an alternate universe but it didn't in the main universe we play in.
I remember when i was actually hopeful but when i learned who was the director i knew it would suck
8:10 you had me as a new viewer, but I'm not gonna watch a chennel who thinks that religion is interesting. Religions want me dead
lol religion isnt bad espesially not in a fantasy setting
@@polarbear9772 You're generalizing just as bad as he is.
What😂😂
Religion saved the life of many people you know?
It's because the director doesn't know how to properly execute exposition. So he relies on exposition dumps, he requires a character or two to be non native, to have an excuse to ask those questions, and subsequently be answered for the audience.