A year round daylight saving time means a 9:30am sunrise in the winter. So it will be darker longer in the winter mornings. Daylight savings time artificially shifts an extra hour of daylight from morning to evening. So the sun rises and sets 1 hr later than standard time.
With standard time, in the summer, we'd have 4am sunrise, which I think would make it hard to sleep, and 4pm sunset. So if we have problems in the winter mornings with permanent daylight saving time, we'd have the same problem in the summer afternoons with permanent standard time. It made be a hassle, but I think the only way to get the right amount of daylight year round is to change our clocks twice a year.
We support and defend Daylight Saving Time year round. We are going allowed to Make Daylight Saving Time permanent. We change the clock twice every year. Year round. It's the law of the Uniform Time Act of 1966 signed by President Lyndon Johnson.
I don't care what time they choose, just keep it one way or another, the change in time messes with kids classes.Whether the sun is up earlier or sets later, it makes no difference to me as long as there is no time change twice a vear.
They can keep the standard time all year around. That doesn't require Congress approval. At least that will be more stable than changing clocks twice a year and go through this disruptive sleep cycle.
Except that means the sun comes up at 3 am and summer days are shorter. The PNW needs more light for after work fun and compensation for long dark winter days. It’s ridiculous it would take congress to approve this and standard time it wouldn’t. Such a stuck nation.
@@Fear.of.the.Dark. in the dead of winter after everyone has commuted to work in the dark, few will care that it’s darker for a bit longer for a short period of time in the winter. They will notice more light toward the end though in a good way. PNW traders will be grateful to have light still after the markets close.
I’ll be happy to pay the price for that temporary condition and have more evening light. I certainly would not want sunrise at 3am during summer solstice with standard time.
They tried to make daylight savings time permanent in the 70s, but it failed for the same reason it will fail this time. During the winter months, kids would be going to school in pitch dark.
@@nbuehster This isn’t the 70s and it shouldn’t be. Kids in the PNW go to school in the dark already. That past generation had even less evidence based ideas than the remaining dinosaurs who vote for the crummy special interest politicians in the south.
I don't care what time they choose, just keep it one way or another, the change in time messes with my sleep. Whether the sun is up earlier or sets later, it makes no difference to me as long as there is no time change twice a year.
No, DO NOT PASS THIS SUNSHINE BILL. Instead, let Washington establish a Sunrise Time system where we begin our days by the time of sunrise. Under this system Washington will establish 12 annually fixed days --- 6 for each half of the year --- where we begin our workdays and schooldays earlier or later in the morning depending on the time of sunrise. Under this system a 9-to-5 workday in December will become a 6-to-2 workday in June. We will go from 9-5 to 6-2 in fifteen-minute increments every few weeks whenever the sun rises early enough to execute another 15-minute block. We will reverse the process from June to December. This will completely abolish the ills of enduring the ills of setting clocks forward and backward one hour at a time. Oh by the way: Daylight Saving Time is nothing short of Daylight Lying Time because Daylight Lying Time is designed to give us the false impression that we start our days at the same time every day of the year no matter what time of the year it is. Why can't we be completely honest with our place in time by shifting our days around by small increments rather than by shifting the clock around to give us the false impression that it's still the same time of day when actually it's an hour later or earlier depending on the time of year? STOP DAYLIGHT LYING TIME AND ADOPT SUNRISE TIME!
I vote to keep daylight saving in place permanently. The clock switching is not pleasant. The weekend charge RN inadvertently shut her alarm off and was late to work likely because her internal clock protested. Standard time in the PNW would have the sun blasting at 3 a.m. in summer. Except for a small shoulder of time where the dark mornings are extended, no one escapes dark mornings in at times during the year but more evening light is very much valued.
Unless you live at the perfect longitude within your time zone, your time is artificial all year. Only at the perfect longitude is standard time in sync with true solar time ie. midnight is truly the middle of the night and noon truly halfway btween sunrise and sunset,
Changing the clocks does not create more daylight instead change the time of sunrise and sunset Permanent Standard Time means sunrise and sunset would be 1 hour earlier all year especially during the summer As an example Latest sunset is at 8:31pm change the clock to 7:31pm Permanent DST means sunrise and sunset would be 1 hour later especially during the winter As an example Latest sunrise in New York is at 7:20am change clock to 8:20am
If they made daylight saving time permanent, during the winter months, it wouldn't get light out until about 8am, meaning kids would be going to school in pitch dark. (They tried permanent daylight saving time in the 70s, and it failed because of that.) And if they made standard time permanent, during the summer months, it would get light out at about 5am, which I think would make it hard to sleep. And it would get dark at about 4pm. I say stick to changing our clocks.
Changing clocks leads to higher mortality, increased automobile accidents, disrupted health, slower metabolism, mental health issues and an overall tumult in society and work schedules. All for an outdated function for a time and place that doesn't exist anymore.
@@chickentenders531 Which means we'd be screwed no matter what we do. Like I said, it wouldn't get light out until almost 9am during the winter months, which I think would cause the same, if not worse, problems in the morning. And with permanent standard time, we'd have the same problems during the summer months, when it gets dark out after 4pm. I think someone even said the sun's supposed to be highest at 12pm, and that wouldn't be the case either way. And clocks don't control the ammount of daylight we get. The sun does.
People's sleep schedules are way more set in stone than you realize. For most people, changing on such a drastic scale as the time switch does takes a long while to get used to. At least a week.
@ChickenTenders not really. It only would affect the first night as they would lose a hr or gain a hr in the winter. Every day after will be normal sleep schedules.
@@superj2644 Exactly! I don't know why everybody hates it. If they made either daylight saving time, or standard time, permanent, it would be worse than having to change your clocks twice a year.
@@9786oof nope, it is a question when this daylight happens, or you saying if we move time by 11 hours we will see the same amount of daylight even if we sleep at usual night hours?
@@PavelKrupets wake up an hour earlier to enjoy the sunrise or go to bed an hour later to enjoy the sunset. I am happy that when i drive home in the afternoon the sun will still be out because my work hours changed. Sun hours don’t change, business hours do. Adjust your life accordingly.
@@superj2644 , I really think the clock changing is a mess. Most people don’t just have iPhones to be concerned about. Many building, hospitals deal with messing with thousands of clocks. It needs to stop.
If you didn't change your clocks, it won't get light out until almost 9am during the winter months. And if it was permanent standard time, it would get light out at 5am, which I think would make it hard to sleep. Plus it would get dark out at 4pm.
A year round daylight saving time means a 9:30am sunrise in the winter. So it will be darker longer in the winter mornings. Daylight savings time artificially shifts an extra hour of daylight from morning to evening. So the sun rises and sets 1 hr later than standard time.
With standard time, in the summer, we'd have 4am sunrise, which I think would make it hard to sleep, and 4pm sunset. So if we have problems in the winter mornings with permanent daylight saving time, we'd have the same problem in the summer afternoons with permanent standard time.
It made be a hassle, but I think the only way to get the right amount of daylight year round is to change our clocks twice a year.
That is one advantage to being retired I no longer have to deal with moving forward.
I hope so. I don't like the change of time every time.
We support and defend Daylight Saving Time year round. We are going allowed to Make Daylight Saving Time permanent. We change the clock twice every year. Year round. It's the law of the Uniform Time Act of 1966 signed by President Lyndon Johnson.
I like it the way it is.
I don't care what time they choose, just keep it one way or another, the change in time messes with kids classes.Whether the sun is up earlier or sets later, it makes no difference to me as long as there is no time change twice a vear.
They can keep the standard time all year around. That doesn't require Congress approval. At least that will be more stable than changing clocks twice a year and go through this disruptive sleep cycle.
Except that means the sun comes up at 3 am and summer days are shorter. The PNW needs more light for after work fun and compensation for long dark winter days. It’s ridiculous it would take congress to approve this and standard time it wouldn’t. Such a stuck nation.
@@wjksea they have more time pun intended for bailing out banks or sending weapons to Ukraine.
@@wjksea This is why I disagree about having either of them being permanent.
I say, even if it's a hassle, we should stick to changing our clocks.
@@Fear.of.the.Dark. in the dead of winter after everyone has commuted to work in the dark, few will care that it’s darker for a bit longer for a short period of time in the winter. They will notice more light toward the end though in a good way. PNW traders will be grateful to have light still after the markets close.
9am sunrise in winter would be very encouraging 😶
I’ll be happy to pay the price for that temporary condition and have more evening light. I certainly would not want sunrise at 3am during summer solstice with standard time.
They tried to make daylight savings time permanent in the 70s, but it failed for the same reason it will fail this time.
During the winter months, kids would be going to school in pitch dark.
@@nbuehster This isn’t the 70s and it shouldn’t be. Kids in the PNW go to school in the dark already. That past generation had even less evidence based ideas than the remaining dinosaurs who vote for the crummy special interest politicians in the south.
@@wjkseathat’s why we change the clocks
Move 1 hour or daylight from mornings to evenings. This means sunrise and sunset is 1 hour later
I don't care what time they choose, just keep it one way or another, the change in time messes with my sleep. Whether the sun is up earlier or sets later, it makes no difference to me as long as there is no time change twice a year.
No, DO NOT PASS THIS SUNSHINE BILL. Instead, let Washington establish a Sunrise Time system where we begin our days by the time of sunrise. Under this system Washington will establish 12 annually fixed days --- 6 for each half of the year --- where we begin our workdays and schooldays earlier or later in the morning depending on the time of sunrise. Under this system a 9-to-5 workday in December will become a 6-to-2 workday in June. We will go from 9-5 to 6-2 in fifteen-minute increments every few weeks whenever the sun rises early enough to execute another 15-minute block. We will reverse the process from June to December. This will completely abolish the ills of enduring the ills of setting clocks forward and backward one hour at a time. Oh by the way: Daylight Saving Time is nothing short of Daylight Lying Time because Daylight Lying Time is designed to give us the false impression that we start our days at the same time every day of the year no matter what time of the year it is. Why can't we be completely honest with our place in time by shifting our days around by small increments rather than by shifting the clock around to give us the false impression that it's still the same time of day when actually it's an hour later or earlier depending on the time of year? STOP DAYLIGHT LYING TIME AND ADOPT SUNRISE TIME!
Stop this picayune insanity! Just END IT
I vote to keep daylight saving in place permanently. The clock switching is not pleasant. The weekend charge RN inadvertently shut her alarm off and was late to work likely because her internal clock protested. Standard time in the PNW would have the sun blasting at 3 a.m. in summer. Except for a small shoulder of time where the dark mornings are extended, no one escapes dark mornings in at times during the year but more evening light is very much valued.
Unless you live at the perfect longitude within your time zone, your time is artificial all year. Only at the perfect longitude is standard time in sync with true solar time ie. midnight is truly the middle of the night and noon truly halfway btween sunrise and sunset,
Changing the clocks does not create more daylight instead change the time of sunrise and sunset
Permanent Standard Time means sunrise and sunset would be 1 hour earlier all year especially during the summer
As an example
Latest sunset is at 8:31pm change the clock to 7:31pm
Permanent DST means sunrise and sunset would be 1 hour later especially during the winter
As an example
Latest sunrise in New York is at 7:20am change clock to 8:20am
If they made daylight saving time permanent, during the winter months, it wouldn't get light out until about 8am, meaning kids would be going to school in pitch dark. (They tried permanent daylight saving time in the 70s, and it failed because of that.)
And if they made standard time permanent, during the summer months, it would get light out at about 5am, which I think would make it hard to sleep. And it would get dark at about 4pm.
I say stick to changing our clocks.
Changing clocks leads to higher mortality, increased automobile accidents, disrupted health, slower metabolism, mental health issues and an overall tumult in society and work schedules. All for an outdated function for a time and place that doesn't exist anymore.
@@chickentenders531 Which means we'd be screwed no matter what we do.
Like I said, it wouldn't get light out until almost 9am during the winter months, which I think would cause the same, if not worse, problems in the morning.
And with permanent standard time, we'd have the same problems during the summer months, when it gets dark out after 4pm.
I think someone even said the sun's supposed to be highest at 12pm, and that wouldn't be the case either way. And clocks don't control the ammount of daylight we get. The sun does.
I like daylight savings -- both falling back and springing forward. Its very metaphysical too.
The only con of daylight savings time is losing an hr of sleep on that first day.
Just go to bed an hour earlier. That's what I do.
People's sleep schedules are way more set in stone than you realize. For most people, changing on such a drastic scale as the time switch does takes a long while to get used to. At least a week.
@ChickenTenders not really. It only would affect the first night as they would lose a hr or gain a hr in the winter. Every day after will be normal sleep schedules.
@@superj2644 Exactly!
I don't know why everybody hates it. If they made either daylight saving time, or standard time, permanent, it would be worse than having to change your clocks twice a year.
I like the early darkness.
Curious, you mean 4:15pm sunsets yes? Not dark morning?
@@andrej7941 , there’s plenty of it in winter.
@@andrej7941 , yes dark morning, they are inevitable. Capturing after work light is notably improved with daylight savings.
A year round daylight savings time means dark mornings in the winter. 9:30 sunrise in the Pacific Nw.
@@anyone150 , for a short period of time. Standard time means sun coming up at 3 am
permanent suxx
less daylight during winter
it’s the same amount of daylight no matter what
@@9786oof nope, it is a question when this daylight happens, or you saying if we move time by 11 hours we will see the same amount of daylight even if we sleep at usual night hours?
@@PavelKrupets it’s only being moved by one hour
@@9786oof one hour is a lot
not a lot is one minute, one second
@@PavelKrupets wake up an hour earlier to enjoy the sunrise or go to bed an hour later to enjoy the sunset. I am happy that when i drive home in the afternoon the sun will still be out because my work hours changed. Sun hours don’t change, business hours do. Adjust your life accordingly.
This is so Damm
i was wondering about the S. hope they make it permanent
Standard Time is the only way
I hate changing the clocks and waking up late for work. The government is trying to control everything.
Use ir phone for an alarm clock, or change the clocks the night before. It's on you for waking up late
@@superj2644 , I really think the clock changing is a mess. Most people don’t just have iPhones to be concerned about. Many building, hospitals deal with messing with thousands of clocks. It needs to stop.
If you didn't change your clocks, it won't get light out until almost 9am during the winter months.
And if it was permanent standard time, it would get light out at 5am, which I think would make it hard to sleep. Plus it would get dark out at 4pm.