Icom IC-9700 First Play
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- Опубліковано 9 кві 2019
- We pop the IC-9700 on the shack bench and turn it on for the first time!
We cover the basics, such as the bands covered, power output and compare the chassis to its twin the IC-7300.
We go through quite a few of the menus briefly noting a few differences but overall the interface should be familiar to anyone used to an IC-7300 or IC-7610.
The 'OVF' light makes a surprise showing on 2M straight out of the box when connected to my Diamond X510 antenna, but turning the built in pre-amp off. I also discovered later that enabling 'IP+' achieves the same result if you don't want to disable your preamp.
After a bit of searching, some FM repeater traffic was found, and we checked out the waterfall / bandscope and audio scope.
Despite my lack of time with the radio, the interface is quite intuitive and we hope you enjoy the brief tour. Please stick around for the journey over the coming months as we go through the combined 269 pages of basic and advanced manuals, and let us know in the comments what you'd like to learn about.
73, Jarrad VK3BL - Наука та технологія
Well done Jarrad, your the first one to put a film on the 9700 on here.
Great review.
Thanks for posting..
Nice Rig..... Thanks for taking the time to post this video...…. LM
Nice that the paddles connect in the back
It's a nice rig. I can see how having the visual display for audio and waterfall would be super handy for tracking sats and zeroing in on them.
It will definitely have some fantastic use cases; and the most exciting thing is that it is priced fairly enough that people who have invested in setups for satellite work etc can afford it. 73, Jarrad VK3BL
Living in USA I am still waiting for this unit to be released. Thanks for preview. Won’t be purchasing it for a while, have old IC 2 meter all mode and a YAESU all mode HF+VHF+UHF sitting in shack.
Dear Dave, may I ask which Icom 2 meter all mode you have? 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
I love it that you left the screen protector on to toy with the viewers... :) Thanks for the informative video. 73
I’m glad it got a laugh! Comedy isn’t our strong suite but thats what we were going for! 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
Now you have me excited Jarrod, mine left Strictly ham today....I thought it was just another radio, I think I am in for a surprise....
I think its one of those Radios Brenton that we all wanted when it was announced but didn't realize just how much they'd pack into the box. I know I have a lot of studying to do! Enjoy yours, 73 Jarrad VK3BL :)
Congratulations on a good purchase! 73
Here is hoping! After years of waiting for the right base '2 & 70' radio to come along and complete the shack, I must say I'm overwhelmed by just how much there is to learn about this little unit. 73, Jarrad VK3BL
Thanks for the video Jarred I had been waiting to see a bit more detail of the 9700 on a video! I look forward to seeing how it performs on SSB, satellite 🛰, and D-STAR (check out Dstar you might really like it!! I really like my Kenwood TH-D74a thus far) 73’s keep the 9700 videos coming!!🎙
With 1.2 Ghz and full duplex it's obviously a specialized satellite radio which is a joy for us AMSAT guys. They just started shipping in US and I'm on pins and needles waiting for mine. DX Engineering only got so many and apparently I'm way down list even tho I reserved last Nov. So hopefully by June for the rest of us. Thanks for the early review! KM6VAY
You’re most welcome Steve! Hands on so far we definitely think that those looking for something more than a base station to use with repeaters are likely to be the ones to get the most from the IC-9700. The list of specialised features is a mile long, and it even in some ways falls short it terms of ‘repeater work’ in that only one receiver can be dedicated to a specific band, as well as a few other factors. Those wanting to ‘kick it up a notch’ and get into VHF/UHF SSB, Dstar DD mode on 1.2GHz or satellite work are definitely going to appreciate what the IC-9700 has to offer. Not to say that others would experience ‘buyers remorse’, but if say ‘2&70’ DSTAR is your thing an ID-5100 and a nice mounting bracket would likely serve better at a fraction of the cost. 73, Jarrad VK3BL
does it do the main and sub tracking for the sats with linear transponder? I have the IC 7300 love it. Right now using the old Yeasu workhorse FT-847 for Sat and SSB work. Definitely thinking of ping up one of the.
I've had mine for a couple of weeks now. It's a great unit. Works nice on FM and SSB. Got into the ISS twice in sat mode-need a better antenna for longer window. Using a yagi and a u/v combo omni.
I can say dozens of great things about this radio.
If had any improvements, it would back lite keys (it is supposed to be base/mobile like my IC-2730a)
And 2 would be I'd like it larger foot print like my IC-746. The screen is a tad small and the buttons are a little close. Still 100% usable, I'm just saying
73 Dave
I see a button that says SCAN, can you scan the entire band? and I'm guessing you can scan your memory channels?
Does this radio have extended receive? Could it receive the UHF T Band?
Nice video! Thank you! I thought "isn't he going to pull the plastic off" but then you did! :) Please make a video about digital voice. I hope I receive my 9700 at the end of this month
I'm glad someone appreciated my attempt at humour :) 73, Jarrad VK3BL
Dear OM What is the output power for ic-9700 ?
Nice bit of kit . I dont know much about these yet i see people here in the comments saying it doesnt have all bands etc? But is this basicly an sdr so it will probably have new software available soon that will let it do all that ? Or am i wrong ???
Unfortunately if you look at the block diagram, there is no way that it is capable of receiving anything other than the 2M, 70cm a& 23cm bands. That said, I don't consider that a problem as having played with the Icom IC-R8600, I can say with confidence there isn't much to listen to anywhere but the ham bands! The fact the IC-9700 is limited to the 3 bands it transmits on actually improves its performance. 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
Am I the only one more interested in the moth behind the radio? LOL
Hey nice to see another video. Thanks for posting that and I’d love to get my hands on one of those. I hope to be working satellites in the future. Best 73!
When does the 9710 come out? Need it to match my 7610
please add 220
Did CS-9700 come with it
Jared, thanks for the video. I just picked up the 5100, 7300, and the 9700 at the same time as they were on sale. I had been out of the hobby since the 90s. Have things changed. I want to use the 9700 for a portable satalite station when the XYL and I take a xcountry trip.
Have things changed! There is a lot to learn. (I can't seem to figure out how to control RF out even though I saw you fo it. What is the difference between the RF control and the limit function?
The manuals these radios are huge!
I did laugh when at first you could not find activity. That was the first thing I noticed when I got my ticket back! Prior to the advent of the Internet and cell technology, the repeaters here in the DC area and NYC where I grew up were so much more active.
Now there are competing technologies. Speaking of technology, my call sign W1RNY, has a particular significance in honoring my grandfather Hugo Gernsback widely known as the Father of Science Fiction for whom the Hugo Award was named. However, most hams don't know about his role in early radio, particularly amatuer radio. His radio relay league preceded the ARRL. His commercial station, WRNY was the second to broadcast TV signals. 73
Hello people, in this video you can clearly see that the s meter on the 2 meter vfo indicates 6 s points. Is that normal ?? there is no signal at all on that moment. If I turn off the preamp, I will no longer hear weak stations. Someone also experience this ??
73, s PD5HW
Nice overview. I downloaded the IC-9700's advanced manual, and we can see tons of features.
My first impression is, the rig is a souped up version of ID-5100. Please coorect me, if I am wrong about it. :)
I really wish it has continuous frequency range from FM broadcast 76 mHz up to 0.23m ... If it is not possible, Wide FM broadcas band and air band are enough. or , just get the IC-R8600 wide band communication receiver which is more expensive ... :)
I like to see DSTAR in action.
Thank you,
Bahathir 9W2GNU, 73.
Dear Bahathir, there certainly are a LOT of features packed into the little box. I must say I was caught out by the fact it did't have continuous frequency coverage, but it isn't something I'm put off by. I'll definitely cover that in the next video when I give a better overview of the rig. 73 my friend, Jarrad VK3BL :)
@@RateMyRadio Thanks for the reply.
The rig has built-in server, 2 antenna ports, main and sub receivers .. in the package as small as IC-7300. So, in near future , we hope can see newer IC-7300 version with similar capability as iC-7610. It might going to be best seller :)
Looking forward for your next video.. 73.. :)
The stuff that Icom is putting out lately puts Kenwood's and Yaesu's lineup to shame! And this is coming from a Kenwood fan boy! Since Kenwood refuses to keep up with the Joneses, this may be my first Icom radio, and I'm not ashamed to admit that!
Same here
I have seen many negative comments from ICOM IC 9700 and need the opinion of friends, buy ICOM IC 9700 or ICOM 9100 ??? I want to do VHF / UHF / DSTAR
Very well done and congrats on your purchase.
I loved working the birds when I was first licensed in '93 when AO-10, AO-13, RS sats,other FM Leo's AND ISS.
BUT since the best birds are long gone I am hesitating on buying one again and getting back into Satellite comm's.
Just curious will you have access to the NEW PHASE 4 Geo stationary satellite when it goes up (not sure when, do not follow Amsat news anymore) but if you do that is great to hear!
I would not hesitate if it had an USA footprint included (maybe one day). Great video and good luck on the Leo's and ALL satellites. 73 DE KD6SBR, Tom in NV
Dear Tom, I wrote a long reply with the iPhone app, but apparently it didn't post in the end. I've yet to work the birds but having earnt DXCC on 80M, 40M, 30M & 20M the time is approaching for me to try 'higher' things in the hobby! Out of interest, what is a USA footprint? 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
@@RateMyRadio The "footprint" is the area the satellite will cover, the P4 sat will cover all of Europe, Africa, Russia, etc. Check out Amsat.org to see the footprint. Search P4 to get started.
I've done satellite work since the mid 90's the satellites were great but not sure what you have against the new sats they are far more reliable than the old birds and there are a ton of them. Easy to get passes almost every hour of the day. If you liked working the old sats i suggest giving the new ones a try, there is more traffic. I'm one of those that would prefer it them busy, just like repeaters than have them sit there quietly
@@Steyrshrek1 I have NOTHING against the current birds. I just loved to talk on AO-10, AO-13, for hours at a time instead of 15 min passes such as on AO-21 as an example.
It was much more fun working all around the world for up to 5-6 hours a pass if not longer. Even though I had auto tracking software back then, the Leo's were still fun for short passes. ( I do NOT do digital)
I would need a complete setup to start again and that would cost me in excess of $5-6K, I like doing things right the first time to really enjoy it but in this day and age I have other needs instead of spending that type of money just for Leo's while not having a Geo-stationary Bird. Its just how I am. Thanks for your comment. 73 DE KD6SBR, Tom in NV (see my QRZ page of my old first setup for satellite work)
I'm slow on the uptake!!!! Despite having been licensed, first as a Novice in the halcyon of that class way back in the early 80's (original call was VK2PUP) , then as a combined (VK2JED) then finally as a Full (first VK2WAG and now, for well over 20 years as VK2XB) I've NEVER before owned a dedicated, multi mode VHF/UHF et al. In fact, other than HF sets that included 6 Metres, I've never had anything on VHF and about that was multi mode - always FM only.
Why the hell did I wait until now, when just about the only option is something with menus, sub menus and sub bloody sub menus????? And SDR to boot (at least, I think it is). I've only just got it running tonight and, to be frank, I'm a little intimidated with the blasted menuing stuff!
Initially, this radio is wayyyyyyyyy overkill as all I have is a multi-band vertical with modest gain, but I figure that I'll retire one day and then I can realise SOME of this radio's potential. In the meantime, I'll waste it's potential and doubtless with fumble about with the menus and such.
I truly preferred the pre SDR radios with real buttons and knobs and dials and such, and where you didn't have to either have a photographic memory or learn to fathom the way the designers set them up with what I believe to be relatively non intuitive access patterns.
A quick browse through EweChube hasn't revealed an awful lot of "howto" clips on this thing, so I guess I'll learn the hard way! It often is the best way, anyway!
I did, however, want to thank you for this clip. It's one of the few I found that gave me some sort of a head start. Oh for some radio developers that understand that the KISS principle is best used with user interfaces... and they should think more as end users rather than developers. Many of their end users have good working knowledge of electronics and the hobby but not all that many are fully geeked!!!!!!!!!!
Kindest regards
De Indy VK2XB
are there any chinese made generic radio that can compare with this model from Icom?
It would be lovely to see a chinese product compete with the traditional 'desk' style radios but unfortunately I've yet to see anything other than hand held radios and portable HF radios styled after the FT-817 and Elecraft KX3. 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
@@RateMyRadio noted and thank you!
dream oin
You must be a multi millionaire. Good job.
its like buying the best samsung phone... hobby..not necessary to be millionaire
Just received mine today ! ! ! Looking to be a great radio.
Great video...thank you for sharing. de K9BBQ
Enjoy your new radio Matt! 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
Great Video mate
73s Gerry
G0PWX
Thanks again for the comments Gerry! 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
Jarrad. Do you want some help programming D-Star. ......Rgs. Captain D-Star
how easy is it to put reappeaters in it
Very! There is a menu item dedicated to memories; I’ll provide a demo in future. 73, Jarrad VK3BL
Jon, I'm just playing with the free programming software now and I must admit it is a real delight to use. Programming either via the touch screen interface or via pc in bulk (which includes cloning and saving your settings) is a complete joy. 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
I wonder what's going to happen if and when we might lose the 144-146 and most or if not all the 23 cms bands, a lot of business`s and Amateurs will lose out. If you think this is made up please read the article I suppose it means we will have to go back to CB.... put out but the RSGB.
i was going to get one till i realised were i live there is very little to no dstar or any other activity
We wouldn’t recommend buying an IC-9700 for DSTAR. As you highlight, it is more or less a passed by mode now, and the DSTAR capability is just a ‘nice to have’ feature in our opinion. 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
@@RateMyRadio Have you listened to D-Star lately, All the new DMR people have realised theres something easier and better, RWN is off the dial
15 minutes into the video and you still haven't turned on the m-scope display
Dear Cristian, the reason I didn't go straight to the band scope is that there isn't much activity to display in VK unless there is a contest on. I actually find the audio scope to be the nicest feature. 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
@@RateMyRadio you got it my friend
73 K6LAD
How does it compared to the venerable Yaesu ft-847 that of course was 160 to 70cm. That seems like an obvious mistake is that 6 meters is not on the radio. I realize that technology has changed considerably since 1985 when the ft-847 came out but what are your comments now with a $2,000 radio it only does to me and above? It really look like it didn't have a whole lot of bells and whistles. It did not seem to be remote herbal with a removable front faceplate so you can't put it at a remote site in an elevated location from what I could tell and run it with remote rig or something. You seems to be a lot of things missing on it. Admittedly, the 847 didn't have those things either. I have an 847 and it's still a slick radio!
The IC-9700 certainly doesn't LOOK like it has a lot of features, but when you 'dig' into the manual and the radio itself you realise just how much value for money is packed into it. For example, the combined manuals are 269 pages, and the radio has built in ethernet for remote operation via the optional RS-BA1 v2 software. You can also download free programming software (CS-9700) from Icom's website which makes programming in your favourite repeaters a joy! As for out right performance, I don't have the numbers on the FT-847 (a beautiful looking radio), however it does out perform previous generations of Icom radios. 73, Jarrad VK3BL :)
You bastard!!! Couldn't you have gone a little faster?? This was miserable to try and keep up with.
ease up sunshine You dont even know the guy. Says alot about YOU
Comparing the 9700 to the 7300 isn't helpful for those of us who know nothing about either radio.
$2100.00 USD is a bit too much, $1400 is more like the price range for this radio.
WHAT this isn't even a HF RADIO.... This radio is worthless. I wouldn't pay $400.00 for it.......
@@tullyman82 OBVIOUSLY you know nothing about ham radio as a "whole" !
THIS FANTASTIC RADIO IS FOR SATELLITE OPERATORS!! and most likely way beyond your scope of knowledge regarding Satellite operation! WHAT IS YOUR CALL?
(doubt you have one)
I suggest you stick to 11 meters BUT if you are a "HAM OPERATOR" which I doubt you would not make an ignorant comment like that!
Again "if you have no idea what this radio can do don't knock it because you can not understand it's capabilities, you clearly don't understand IT IS FOR SATELLITE WORK!
OR YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER VERY IGNORANT LOW LIFE TROLL!
73 de KD6SBR
@@lt4324 is this the most powerful radio? 100watts is the max?
@@fidelcatsro6948 For VHF/ UHF and above , yes. 100W is max, But you can buy Amps for these bands for terrestrial work.
You do not need much power for Satellite work say 75/ 100 watts MAX
(You do not want to overload the transponders).
The antennas and coax are most important. The higher in Frequency you go the more expensive Amps sell for especially in the 1.2 ghz to 2.4 ghz range. Getting into 10 ghz is a whole other world. Take it ez, 73 de KD6SBR
@@lt4324 the handheld ones are only 5watts what a let down!
Icom have lost touch with its customers? No dmr no fusion ..it's not a digital radio ...sadly lacking ...it's a no go for me and I have owned most icom products...
One of the things were finding ‘hands on’ and reviewing the manuals etc is that ‘FM / Digital’ work only makes up a very small component of the IC-9700s design goals / market segment target. I agree that if that is what you were looking for in this release specifically you’d likely end up disappointed in your purchase; one of the multimode hotspots and a hand held from your favourite vendor would likely better fill that need. 73, Jarrad VK3BL
@@RateMyRadio yep your right Jarrad i have a few handies MD380 and AT-D868 for DMR, FT2DR for C4FM, IC-92D for Dstar and a IC-E90 quad band for FM.. i have numerous receivers IC-R8500, 7100 ic-r100 aor 3000a and they are just a few the shack has a IC9100 7600 7300 flex 5000a which shows i am a serious radio ham ... i was so wanting the 9700 but as i have said the lack of digital modes is a big let down for me ... 73's barry G0SCI