when editing audio, especially for videos or studio work it's important to use flat frequency and closed-back headphones. this allows you to hear your audio in its rawest form. While noise cancelling, beat amplifying and noise isolating headphones may sound intriguing, they're really only catered for a quality listening experience when watching movies, listening to music or podcast like Teppo mentions. Otherwise, when used for editing video/studio audio you think it sounds good through the headphones, because of all these "sound qualities" and then you hear it out loud through speakers and the "beats" you thought sounded crisp and amplified were actually not amplified enough. This is why you may hear something completely different compared to when you are editing.
I've been trying to look into headphones for editing use, and while I've seen many other people say flat frequency headphones are good, I usually see people recommending open-back headphones for more natural sound. Out of curiosity, what makes you say closed-back headphones are better? If I had to guess, it'd be for sound isolation so other people don't have to hear you edit, or it was just a typo lol, but if it's something else I'd like to know.
5:21 this is a 1/4" adapter. You'd use it to plug into like a guitar amp if you wanted to practice without disturbing your neighbor. DJs use them to connect to their equipment too.
Follow up- I just got my Rode Headphones in yesterday.... Great sound, great comfort, worth the $$... (Even though they weren't that expensive... Thanks for informing the people of these phones Teppo!
If you come to Portugal you are lucky you will have good weather. prepare the t-shirts and shorts. Try to visit the interior of Portugal, you will find small gems. one of them is Dornes, a small village right in the center of Portugal and close to a large lake.
Teppo, what headphones would you recommend for monitoring your DSLR audio while on location. Obviously they need to be relatively compact and be able to cut out external noise as much as possible.
I now use the Bose headphones you use and they sound so bad. I was originally using some Razer Kraken headphones before and my dad took them.
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To really know if it's confortable or not, you need to use it for at least 2 or 3 hours without taking any pause. 😜 I need one as well, my kef x porsche design died quite a while ago...
I made the exact same mistake! Bought the expensive sony headphones for video editing, but had the same problem with my settings on the headphones! Had to buy a new pair aswell...
To answer , Why do the headphones sound different when plugged in from when in Bluetooth? It has to do with the DAC(digital to analogue converter), The Sound settings/EQ on the app is saved and applied to the internal DAC. When you plug them in to a computer, they do not use the internal DAC, but the DAC on your computer. Which can by itself have a different sound. And is why the Headphones can sound different. Only free solution I know is to apply the same setting changes/EQ done to the app to your computer. This however will affect anything you plug into your computer and can potentially be complicated. alternative solution is to turn your wired earphones(eg. NTH-100), into wireless headphones. You can do this by getting a Bluetooth adapter like the "FIIO BTR5". You can also use it as an external DAC connected to your computer. Allowing you to have the same DAC wired or wireless. There are other factors to the sound you're getting. But having a single DAC can give you the same sound in general. The size of the BTR5 is about equal to the pointer and middle finger taped together, if travel size is an issue. Long answer but hope that helps.
Points: 1. You need to fit the rubber plug in (it is in the ziploc bag along with the colourful clips, jam it in the unplugged side) or it will create channel imbalance and reduced bass. Cable can be inserted to either cups. 2. They are not too good for travelling due to them being unable to fold up. Even the short 1.2m cable have to be purchased separately as option. AKG K371 is another $150 studio headphones that can fold up but their build quality is not on par with Rode.
The cabeled Sony MDR-headphones for pro audio/studio work gives flat sounding accurate audio. Having a dedicated headset for editing is really a major plus, and like so many others have said, bluetooth is a NO-NO - i’ve used the sony xm4 lately, on bluetooth for general editing/cutting, and then just jack’em in with the audio cable for detailed work, with some adjustments to the equalizer they are good enough
I’ve been using a 55€ Anker Soundcore Space NC Wireless. They sound really great, but I mostly use my AirPods Pro because the fast switching between iPhone and MacBook. Hope you have a nice stay in Portugal, too bad you don’t come to Porto.
2:00 I have the QC700s and I haven't experienced this issue? I think they are a bit stiff and hurt my head after a long editing session. Especially with glasses or a hat on. Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the Bose line of editing headphones
Love my DT 770 by Beyerdynamic Headphones. Great balanced sound to mix on and comfortable to wear all day, even with glasses. Would be really interesting to compare the two!
The bad audio of the Bose headphones when wired, have you tried turning the headphones on after jacking them into the computer? The built in amplifiers in the headphones probably won’t be doing their job if you just attach the audio cable but don’t turn on the headphones
It's strange. I know there is typically a delay when editing using headphones that are connected via Bluetooth, but I too use the Bose 700s often and I do not have this delay when editing in Premiere Pro. It had also not sounded much different when connected via AUX for me, and seemed relatively sound accurate when listening to my MacBook Pro speakers and Barefoot Sound 01 monitors. Or maybe I'm a fool, who knows? 😆
Travelling is great Teppo 😁👌 do it as much my brother... Show some of us the beautiful places we can't travel to for sure 😎👍 great vid hopefully you will have a better review after 3/5 hours of editing then u know if those headphones r really comfortable for editing! 🤣😁
I currently use the beyerdynamic DT 770 headphones for editing and they are great. Even comfy after hours of use. I might have to have a look at these Rode headphones though...
Yeah, I've been dealing with a similar issue with my Sony WH1000xm4's. They are amazing sounding, but connected via bluetooth you can't edit to music beats because of the lag time. They do sound fairly decent plugged in though. However, I need to get a longer cord like you mentioned so I can have more freedom to move my head and body around. haha! Great video once again.
I have about 5 pairs of "cheaper" over the ear headphones lying around at the house and I hate all of them.. I'm in the market for some good over the ear headphones, so these are definitely going to be be considered.. the comfort aspect is almost my number 1 consideration.. how do they feel after wearing them for 30-60 minutes straight?
These Rodes are one of the most comfortable headphones in ANY price range. They are built like a tank too. While they are brilliant in monitoring voices (rich, natural mids), the problem is, they are not as good in music listening and ambience sound monitoring (rolled off treble). They are also not very good to travel with due to non-folding design. At around the same $150 price range, your other options are AKG K371 (tuned to Harman target curve, can flip into smaller size), Shure 840A (better bass and treble than Rode yet still neutral, loose headband), or Audio Technica M50X (V shaped, old design, skip).
@@gigihanmandarin that’s very very helpful! I definitely would want to get something that travels well, but mostly I need to make sure that the cups cover the whole ear and not lay on the ear to maximize comfort and also create a good space for sound.
Oh my gosh the greatest channel just got even greater... theres gonna be fpv!!!!!!!!! heck yes. also I have that kit haha its really great to learn fpv with
these days I use the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H6 cos i get them free and they're surprisingly flat sounding without a good amp. however my recommended headphones are the Audio- Technica M40X as they are way closer to a flat sound signature. I've used them to mix a bunch of my songs and videos as well. they're also pretty cheap
Aah Ha i've missed few videos ,Thank you so mush for sharing review and experience of using this amazing piece of gear(headphone)it's cool one i guess..how you's fine and hope you're queen is well,when is the due date?sending hugs prayers and warm wishes to you and your family 🤗🙏❤💐🙂
I have bought Sony xm4 and thinking to return them, in your case you have spend around 500 euros. A lot of ppl saying the AirPods Max are really good in most scenarios! Why you didn’t consider them out ? Then you will have only one pair of headphones 🎧
You cannot edit with wireless headphones due to latency. An editor should get a pair of (wired) studio monitoring headphones to ensure the videos sound correct. Consumer headphones are coloured.
@@gigihanmandarin yeah true they have some latency due to bluetooth conx but a lot are using them as an all in one replacement. while you also have to pay 30 usd to get the cable, the AirPods max use the battery even when plugged in using the external cable unlike the other pairs that could be powered from the device itself. So that might be the reason he got different profiles jumping from iPhone to macbook. Another thing because he mainly use apple eco system, this might be another well integrated pair of headphones into the system. All in all, that could b true or false the analysis i made.
❗️ WARNING ❗️ Don’t buy these headphones 🎧 They break VERY EASY on the opposite side of the locking knob. It’s just thin plastic holding the cup to the headband and it snaps. This is not an isolated one off. It has happen to others.
@@NebulaStudioPoland Only seen it on some higher end cans myself, I’m guessing it’s a right handed/left handed feature -.or maybe for all stupid laptops with the audio jack connection on the right hand side of the computer :)
when editing audio, especially for videos or studio work it's important to use flat frequency and closed-back headphones. this allows you to hear your audio in its rawest form. While noise cancelling, beat amplifying and noise isolating headphones may sound intriguing, they're really only catered for a quality listening experience when watching movies, listening to music or podcast like Teppo mentions. Otherwise, when used for editing video/studio audio you think it sounds good through the headphones, because of all these "sound qualities" and then you hear it out loud through speakers and the "beats" you thought sounded crisp and amplified were actually not amplified enough. This is why you may hear something completely different compared to when you are editing.
I've been trying to look into headphones for editing use, and while I've seen many other people say flat frequency headphones are good, I usually see people recommending open-back headphones for more natural sound. Out of curiosity, what makes you say closed-back headphones are better? If I had to guess, it'd be for sound isolation so other people don't have to hear you edit, or it was just a typo lol, but if it's something else I'd like to know.
Closed back ? I thought open back was what you should look for for editing headphones
i would argue open back is better since you get natural sound signature
5:21 this is a 1/4" adapter. You'd use it to plug into like a guitar amp if you wanted to practice without disturbing your neighbor. DJs use them to connect to their equipment too.
Cant wait to see the Portugal stuff!
5:38 you just make a mess again! 😂 Instead putting in a box cuz you gonna throw that box too hahahaha
😂😂😂
Gotta love Rode.. those look so good, I bet they sound amazing too, I’ve never been disappointed with a Rode product!
Follow up- I just got my Rode Headphones in yesterday.... Great sound, great comfort, worth the $$... (Even though they weren't that expensive... Thanks for informing the people of these phones Teppo!
It's nice to see that there are companies that make headphones for creative use :)
So true!
If you come to Portugal you are lucky you will have good weather. prepare the t-shirts and shorts. Try to visit the interior of Portugal, you will find small gems. one of them is Dornes, a small village right in the center of Portugal and close to a large lake.
Teppo, what headphones would you recommend for monitoring your DSLR audio while on location. Obviously they need to be relatively compact and be able to cut out external noise as much as possible.
I have actually been looking for editing headphones
and the Sennheiser headphones. Thanks Teppo for this video.
Your welcome bro!
I now use the Bose headphones you use and they sound so bad. I was originally using some Razer Kraken headphones before and my dad took them.
To really know if it's confortable or not, you need to use it for at least 2 or 3 hours without taking any pause. 😜 I need one as well, my kef x porsche design died quite a while ago...
Let's go -- I, too, am diving into the FPV world. ✌🏼
What headphones are u guys using?!
I was rocking the beats, but the ear cushions are wearing out and getting little pieces all over the place! Lol
Unfortunately AirPods Pro for now.. I’ve just learned to live with lag.
I made the exact same mistake! Bought the expensive sony headphones for video editing, but had the same problem with my settings on the headphones! Had to buy a new pair aswell...
Now I dont feel like the only idiot 😂
Try using the new voice isolation in FCP 10.6.2 Teppo. You might get less echo in the sound.
Oh I gotta try that out!
To answer , Why do the headphones sound different when plugged in from when in Bluetooth? It has to do with the DAC(digital to analogue converter), The Sound settings/EQ on the app is saved and applied to the internal DAC. When you plug them in to a computer, they do not use the internal DAC, but the DAC on your computer. Which can by itself have a different sound. And is why the Headphones can sound different. Only free solution I know is to apply the same setting changes/EQ done to the app to your computer. This however will affect anything you plug into your computer and can potentially be complicated. alternative solution is to turn your wired earphones(eg. NTH-100), into wireless headphones. You can do this by getting a Bluetooth adapter like the "FIIO BTR5". You can also use it as an external DAC connected to your computer. Allowing you to have the same DAC wired or wireless. There are other factors to the sound you're getting. But having a single DAC can give you the same sound in general. The size of the BTR5 is about equal to the pointer and middle finger taped together, if travel size is an issue. Long answer but hope that helps.
Points:
1. You need to fit the rubber plug in (it is in the ziploc bag along with the colourful clips, jam it in the unplugged side) or it will create channel imbalance and reduced bass. Cable can be inserted to either cups.
2. They are not too good for travelling due to them being unable to fold up. Even the short 1.2m cable have to be purchased separately as option.
AKG K371 is another $150 studio headphones that can fold up but their build quality is not on par with Rode.
Thanks for the tips!
The cabeled Sony MDR-headphones for pro audio/studio work gives flat sounding accurate audio.
Having a dedicated headset for editing is really a major plus, and like so many others have said, bluetooth is a NO-NO - i’ve used the sony xm4 lately, on bluetooth for general editing/cutting, and then just jack’em in with the audio cable for detailed work, with some adjustments to the equalizer they are good enough
Welcome to Portugal in advance! :) In case you come to Porto and need anything it would be a pleasure to help or hang out :)
Bro! Thank you. Wish I could but this time just Algarve + Lisbon
@@TeppoHaapoja enjoy! :)
I’ve been using a 55€ Anker Soundcore Space NC Wireless. They sound really great, but I mostly use my AirPods Pro because the fast switching between iPhone and MacBook. Hope you have a nice stay in Portugal, too bad you don’t come to Porto.
2:00 I have the QC700s and I haven't experienced this issue? I think they are a bit stiff and hurt my head after a long editing session. Especially with glasses or a hat on. Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the Bose line of editing headphones
How are those rhode headphone for music? How's the bass?
Very nice!
What about the delay?
Love my DT 770 by Beyerdynamic Headphones. Great balanced sound to mix on and comfortable to wear all day, even with glasses. Would be really interesting to compare the two!
Gotta try all these headphones!
@@TeppoHaapoja your ears will love them 😉
I feel like they're a bit bulky to travel with, no? unless the new versions somehow fold smaller
@@ryansulak true, those are not made to travel i guess
They look nice and I bet they do sound good big fan of rode products myself nice one mate 👍🏼
Did it break?
The bad audio of the Bose headphones when wired, have you tried turning the headphones on after jacking them into the computer? The built in amplifiers in the headphones probably won’t be doing their job if you just attach the audio cable but don’t turn on the headphones
It's strange. I know there is typically a delay when editing using headphones that are connected via Bluetooth, but I too use the Bose 700s often and I do not have this delay when editing in Premiere Pro. It had also not sounded much different when connected via AUX for me, and seemed relatively sound accurate when listening to my MacBook Pro speakers and Barefoot Sound 01 monitors.
Or maybe I'm a fool, who knows? 😆
Wait really random question but where’d you get your couch? I’ve been looking for one that is that specific color forever!!
From a store here in Finland!
Awesome headphones. I could use a really nice comfy pair.
Looks awesome!!
with the bose headphones, can you not download the app to your laptop and play around with the settings there?
Travelling is great Teppo 😁👌 do it as much my brother... Show some of us the beautiful places we can't travel to for sure 😎👍 great vid hopefully you will have a better review after 3/5 hours of editing then u know if those headphones r really comfortable for editing! 🤣😁
Hey Teppo I video edit and I am thinking of getting those headphones but I was wondering how they’re like to travel with like for on planes and stuff?
I currently use the beyerdynamic DT 770 headphones for editing and they are great. Even comfy after hours of use. I might have to have a look at these Rode headphones though...
Nice!
Yeah, I've been dealing with a similar issue with my Sony WH1000xm4's. They are amazing sounding, but connected via bluetooth you can't edit to music beats because of the lag time. They do sound fairly decent plugged in though. However, I need to get a longer cord like you mentioned so I can have more freedom to move my head and body around. haha! Great video once again.
Thanks Matthew!
sony wh-1000xm4
I’m glad i have my own Bluetooth hearing aids for watching UA-cam videos etc no need to wear headphones anymore :D
Nice!
I have about 5 pairs of "cheaper" over the ear headphones lying around at the house and I hate all of them.. I'm in the market for some good over the ear headphones, so these are definitely going to be be considered.. the comfort aspect is almost my number 1 consideration.. how do they feel after wearing them for 30-60 minutes straight?
These Rodes are one of the most comfortable headphones in ANY price range. They are built like a tank too. While they are brilliant in monitoring voices (rich, natural mids), the problem is, they are not as good in music listening and ambience sound monitoring (rolled off treble). They are also not very good to travel with due to non-folding design.
At around the same $150 price range, your other options are AKG K371 (tuned to Harman target curve, can flip into smaller size), Shure 840A (better bass and treble than Rode yet still neutral, loose headband), or Audio Technica M50X (V shaped, old design, skip).
@@gigihanmandarin that’s very very helpful! I definitely would want to get something that travels well, but mostly I need to make sure that the cups cover the whole ear and not lay on the ear to maximize comfort and also create a good space for sound.
@@jaredcollins-photo all of the above are over ear design covering the whole ear with Rode being the smallest although still covers the ears.
Also consider Joe Rogan's set: Sennheiser HD280 Pro
Oh my gosh the greatest channel just got even greater... theres gonna be fpv!!!!!!!!! heck yes. also I have that kit haha its really great to learn fpv with
these days I use the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H6 cos i get them free and they're surprisingly flat sounding without a good amp. however my recommended headphones are the Audio- Technica M40X as they are way closer to a flat sound signature. I've used them to mix a bunch of my songs and videos as well. they're also pretty cheap
Cool to hear!
Aah Ha i've missed few videos ,Thank you so mush for sharing review and experience of using this amazing piece of gear(headphone)it's cool one i guess..how you's fine and hope you're queen is well,when is the due date?sending hugs prayers and warm wishes to you and your family 🤗🙏❤💐🙂
Wow those look awesome
🙌🙌🙌
I just bought a pair. Hopefully it helps you out by buying them from the link you shared...
Always helps, hope you like them John!
Headphones for editing is great when you have to work in laud places 😄😄
Agreed!
I have bought Sony xm4 and thinking to return them, in your case you have spend around 500 euros. A lot of ppl saying the AirPods Max are really good in most scenarios! Why you didn’t consider them out ?
Then you will have only one pair of headphones 🎧
You cannot edit with wireless headphones due to latency. An editor should get a pair of (wired) studio monitoring headphones to ensure the videos sound correct. Consumer headphones are coloured.
@@gigihanmandarin yeah true they have some latency due to bluetooth conx but a lot are using them as an all in one replacement. while you also have to pay 30 usd to get the cable, the AirPods max use the battery even when plugged in using the external cable unlike the other pairs that could be powered from the device itself. So that might be the reason he got different profiles jumping from iPhone to macbook. Another thing because he mainly use apple eco system, this might be another well integrated pair of headphones into the system. All in all, that could b true or false the analysis i made.
Yeah the Bose are awesome but I think those setting are tied to your phone.
Change to Sony man. They are the best
❗️ WARNING ❗️
Don’t buy these headphones 🎧
They break VERY EASY on the opposite side of the locking knob. It’s just thin plastic holding the cup to the headband and it snaps. This is not an isolated one off. It has happen to others.
You're wearing them the wrong way ;) (pro tip) cable is always connected to the left headphone
I was curious about that, why do they have two jacks?
Wrong, cable can be inserted in either cups.
Look at the picture on the box, cable is on the right cup - the NTH’s have cable-sockets on both cans as a feature
@@AndreSjoberg oooh, never seen such a thing, cool, sorry for misinformation , cheers!
@@NebulaStudioPoland Only seen it on some higher end cans myself, I’m guessing it’s a right handed/left handed feature -.or maybe for all stupid laptops with the audio jack connection on the right hand side of the computer :)
👍🏻
Good to have you here!
I got sony, dre beat but I bought 10£ tristar and they better than sony and remaining big brands 😂🤦🏾♂️
How about Jbl
😂😂😂 really eh!?
@@dymcozzy jbl is good as well 💯
@@TeppoHaapoja yea man, but these rode headphones are good in 200 dollars