Awesome video. Purchased clutch kit for 11 Polaris 850. Followed the vid as I did the installation. Took about 3 hrs. Shifts smoother and clutch still engages around 2200 rpm’s but doesn’t bang in as hard now. Thanks…
Extremely helpful video. Used it from beginning to end to install the EPI Clutch Kit and new belt on my 2012 Sportsman 850 XP - Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Excellent!
Every time you have your Polaris primary off you should service or replace the one way bearing in the Center. It is very prone to failure, the first sign is the machine will begin to be hard to shift between H, L and R. If you leave it too long when you stop the machine will stall in gear. The bearing will completely fail and destroy the shaft thus needing to replace the entire clutch. To get at the bearing you will have to remove the spider which needs a special tool. I have heard that blowing your primary out with air can force belt dust down into the one way bearing causing it to fail prematurely.
The one way bearing completely failed on my 2017 850. Also the one way bearing started to fail on my 2003 500 and my 2009 500 New bearing is 80$ and the spider tool is 80$ - but a new primary clutch is 500$
The elevation affects the power output from the motor. Clutching is directly related to the HP and Torq output from the motor. It would depend on the tires you are running and what elevation you would ride at normally and the elevation range also you would ride at.
Great Video! With this Video everyone can chance the Clutch!! Thank you very much. I hope I will see a few Videos with the Scrambler 1000 XP. Schöne grüße aus Deutschland.
With my experience i don't remeber them making a popping or slapping noise they were pretty smooth and quiet the ones we had here for testing. I would take the clutches off and inspect them for possible wear isues.
I figure you won’t respond because the video is kind of old but how would the process change for an 09 xp550? I BELIEVE they have the same diff but I’m not a 100 percent sure and I want to be sure about things before I get into my first bike job alone.
Hi, great vid, explains lots, I have approx 2500 Miles and about 190 hrs on 2011 Sportsman Touring.I drive like my grandmother, and I don't feel any slippage yet. Typically when do you recommend a belt change, and can I just change belt or do I need to change out those springs as well. Does the ready rod and yolk that you used on the vise come with the kit, and if not, where can I buy one? Thanks for any help you can assist with.
The 2011-2013 all have the same style clutches so how to change them is the same but the 2011 uses a different kit because it doesn't have the HO motor like the 2012-213.
I do not own a 850 polaris, ive only test rode a few, but the clutch engagement is noticeable different then my 2008 800 outlander or my dads 2003 650 prairie..... now isn't there a difference in a polaris cvt that the belt is stationary at idle and the primary is turning and the secondary is not in motion and what im hearing is the secondaries engagement when the rpm's are up enough for it to grab. noticed it at test ride's anoka atv fair 2012 & haydays 2012
Actually all 3 of those machines work on the exact same princable you explained for engagement and how they work from what i have noticed is the can-am is clunky and has a jerk when changing gears (very common complaint) compared to the 850 Sportsman. They could have had a worn clutch if it was noisey. Just goin off my experience with both machines.
+Gregory Parrott Last 2 years its getting more popular. Before atvs were twice price because of the taxation system in Turkey ,Arctic cat found the way to sell tax free and now getting close to USA prices.. were waiting for Polaris and Can Am to do Polaris sportsman 850 touring 28000 usd Arctic Cat TRV 1000 14500 usd in Turkey Only the last two years people start to know atvs,but i think its getting better and more popular each day... ...... ...
+ömer alp A tractor?? I love it! Maybe I'll try that write-off on my taxes. After all, there's a real need for tractors which can perform wheelies, jump ditches and logs, run 50+ miles an hour down twisty rutted roads, wind through narrow forest trails or perform power slides across frozen lake beds. :)
When I shift my 2013 850 xp into gear, F or R, and apply throttle I hear a loud pop as it engages. Is this normal? I thought it might have been a bad belt, but that was good, the two clutches were clean and this is why I'm asking.
Some noise can be normal when you are switching between forward and reverse. There are a lot of things in the driveline that can cause this or a lot of times its a combination of a few of them due to the driveline slop. Things like the clutches and belt being worn and/or dirty, the tranny itself, ujoints/ yokes being worn, front and rear diff's, and axles can all attribute to it. All you can do is take a deeper look into each part. For example the clutches - you cleaned them which was good but inspect the belt, inspect the primary rollers and bushings and the secondary rollers (both internal and external).
does your clutch kit stop or lessen that popping -slapping the clutches make when it Engages from dead stop? I guess its a bigger problem 2012 -2013 with the higher out put 850.
You can check your clutch bushings for ware, also check the one way bearing to make sure it spins smoothly one way and locks up the other way. Also check for grooves worn into the sheave of the clutch in the primary. Make sure the rollers spin freely but are not wobbly loose up and down. Hope that helps some.
On the 850 and 1000 Sportsmans and Scramblers they turn the opposite direction as the normal Polaris clutches so there are less parts out there. But I think the Scramblers use a two way that might interchange but I don't know that for sure.
Craig Taylor Yes it will be the same process on the 1000 Sportsman and Scrambler. We haven't tested the Sportsman yet but plan to as soon as we can get our hands on one. Hopefully in the next few weeks now that we are starting our spring testing.
Yes the 2016 model uses the same process. If you watch the video it shows everthying step by step and it isn't to hard. The kits will also have step by step instructions in them to help you out. I would recommend the PCP-12 clutch puller and the CCT510 clutch compression tool to make the install a lot easier.
To get the spider out you need a couple different tools. You will need a clutch holding tool EPI part number 358B, a spider tool part number 341 and if your clutch has a jam nut you will also need the 338 jam nut tool. Some of those have a jamnut and some dont. If you go to our website www.epiperformance.com or our youtube we have a video on doing a clutch rebuild which would show you the process. IF you are doing it on a 550, 850, or 1000 Scrambler or Sportsman the clutch spins the opposite direction when taking the spider off.
Changing springs will change how fast or slow the clutches open and close. They also effect engagement, top rpms, belt squeeze and overall performance so it is important to have the correct set up that has been tested together to gain the best overall performance and clutch operation.
Hi Josh, It depends some on what kit and tire size you are using but all the kits will give you better low end and midrange power and acceleration, faster backshift and throttle response and will grip the belt better then stock. If you have larger tires then stick it will help make up for the power loss of the larger tires. Let us know if you have any questions.
Hi Dany, That machine uses a special puller that you wont find in auto parts stores but any motorsports/powersports store might have or can also order one for you. You can use an OE Polaris puller or the EPI part number PCP-12 for the 850's. You can also install the kit without the puller it just is a little harder and takes two people.
hi, I have a 2012 850 xp polaris, as soon as I put the shift in drive the tires start to roll, it seems that the belt is quite tight but I don't know much about atvs, any ideas or advice?
That is normally one of three different things. #1 In most cases it is that the one way bearing in the center of the drive clutch is locked up or worn out. #2 the incorrect belt for the machine, double check the part number to see if correct. #3 The drive clutch is worn or dirty and not full disengaging. Try cleaning it and inspecting for ware.
@@hugoloza9 Hello, you have to use the clutch off of a 850 if that's what you have, because the 550, 850, and 1000 Sportsmans clutches turn the opposite direction compare the the 570 and 800 so the clutch is designed a little different.
ua-cam.com/video/6dXNe0JQ-Uo/v-deo.html It is 95% the same on the 2017 The link goes to the 2017 Sportsman video. On the 2017 you have to lift the rear fenders up about an 1 1/2 inches to get enough clearance to get the clutch off. And there is no snap ring holding the secondary spring in the clutch, the spring and helix will come out at the same time under tension. If the link doesn't work you can go our you tube page and find it under the 2017 Sportsman.
The tool we use for opening the clutch comes in some of the Polaris tool kits. On end its used to adjust your shock springs and on the other to open up the clutch. You can also use a screwdriver in there you just have to be careful not to damage the round plastic rollers.
With the Sport Utility Kit for Stock size or the 27-28" tire Kits the top end speed will be the same. The Mudder kit will sometimes lose 5-10 mph depending on what size tires you are using.
The elevation affects the power output from the motor. Clutching is directly related to the HP and Torq output from the motor. It would depend on the tires you are running and what elevation you would ride at normally and the elevation range also you would ride at.
Awesome video. Purchased clutch kit for 11 Polaris 850. Followed the vid as I did the installation. Took about 3 hrs. Shifts smoother and clutch still engages around 2200 rpm’s but doesn’t bang in as hard now. Thanks…
Extremely helpful video. Used it from beginning to end to install the EPI Clutch Kit and new belt on my 2012 Sportsman 850 XP - Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Excellent!
Excellent. I believe you know what you are doing. Enjoy watching. Great instruction.
Thank you.
Thank you for the excellent video. I just ordered a new primary spring from you and this explains the process simply for install. Thank you!!
Dumb question LoL is this the same process for a 2017 scrambler 850 HO?
Every time you have your Polaris primary off you should service or replace the one way bearing in the Center. It is very prone to failure, the first sign is the machine will begin to be hard to shift between H, L and R. If you leave it too long when you stop the machine will stall in gear. The bearing will completely fail and destroy the shaft thus needing to replace the entire clutch. To get at the bearing you will have to remove the spider which needs a special tool.
I have heard that blowing your primary out with air can force belt dust down into the one way bearing causing it to fail prematurely.
The one way bearing completely failed on my 2017 850.
Also the one way bearing started to fail on my 2003 500 and my 2009 500
New bearing is 80$ and the spider tool is 80$ - but a new primary clutch is 500$
The elevation affects the power output from the motor. Clutching is directly related to the HP and Torq output from the motor. It would depend on the tires you are running and what elevation you would ride at normally and the elevation range also you would ride at.
Great Video! With this Video everyone can chance the Clutch!! Thank you very much. I hope I will see a few Videos with the Scrambler 1000 XP. Schöne grüße aus Deutschland.
We have tested the 2014 1000 Scrambler and the assembly/disassembly is the exact same process.
With my experience i don't remeber them making a popping or slapping noise they were pretty smooth and quiet the ones we had here for testing. I would take the clutches off and inspect them for possible wear isues.
Excellent video. Thanks
Sweet.very good to know.i will get the prper one for the ho.thanks for your knowledge
I figure you won’t respond because the video is kind of old but how would the process change for an 09 xp550? I BELIEVE they have the same diff but I’m not a 100 percent sure and I want to be sure about things before I get into my first bike job alone.
Hi, great vid, explains lots, I have approx 2500 Miles and about 190 hrs on 2011 Sportsman Touring.I drive like my grandmother, and I don't feel any slippage yet. Typically when do you recommend a belt change, and can I just change belt or do I need to change out those springs as well. Does the ready rod and yolk that you used on the vise come with the kit, and if not, where can I buy one? Thanks for any help you can assist with.
awesome video. learnt a lot. will a 2011 epi mudder clutch kit work in a 2013 Sportsman 850xp ho? my buddy has one he has never used
The 2011-2013 all have the same style clutches so how to change them is the same but the 2011 uses a different kit because it doesn't have the HO motor like the 2012-213.
I do not own a 850 polaris, ive only test rode a few, but the clutch engagement is noticeable different then my 2008 800 outlander or my dads 2003 650 prairie..... now isn't there a difference in a polaris cvt that the belt is stationary at idle and the primary is turning and the secondary is not in motion and what im hearing is the secondaries engagement when the rpm's are up enough for it to grab. noticed it at test ride's anoka atv fair 2012 & haydays 2012
Actually all 3 of those machines work on the exact same princable you explained for engagement and how they work from what i have noticed is the can-am is clunky and has a jerk when changing gears (very common complaint) compared to the 850 Sportsman. They could have had a worn clutch if it was noisey. Just goin off my experience with both machines.
Where did you get the primary clutch compressor tool at
Great video. Is this what I'd expect to see on my 2015 850sp? Thank you in advance.
Yes Jeff, should be the same style clutches and operation on the 2015 both on the Sportsman and Scrambler.
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What do use folks do at 7000 feet?? how does elevation effect the clutch operation.......??
Hi from Turkey ,
will be easy for me ,thanks for the excellent video.
+ömer alp Interesting to know that Polaris is supported in Turkey. Is ATV riding popular there?
+Gregory Parrott
Last 2 years its getting more popular.
Before atvs were twice price because of the taxation system in Turkey ,Arctic cat found the way to sell tax free and now getting close to USA prices..
were waiting for Polaris and Can Am to do
Polaris sportsman 850 touring 28000 usd
Arctic Cat TRV 1000 14500 usd
in Turkey
Only the last two years people start to know atvs,but i think its getting better and more popular each day...
......
...
+ömer alp Wow! $28,000! That is a ridiculous taxation as well as unfair to other ATV manufacturers for Arctic Cat to have such an advantage.
+Gregory Parrott
Arctic cat is sold as a tractor ,thats why no tax
The others will do this soon in a year we hope ..
+ömer alp A tractor?? I love it! Maybe I'll try that write-off on my taxes. After all, there's a real need for tractors which can perform wheelies, jump ditches and logs, run 50+ miles an hour down twisty rutted roads, wind through narrow forest trails or perform power slides across frozen lake beds. :)
Best video I have a 2013 scrambler and is similar i planning to install a clutch kit for a 28 " you sell the clutch kit. thanks for your guidance
When I shift my 2013 850 xp into gear, F or R, and apply throttle I hear a loud pop as it engages. Is this normal? I thought it might have been a bad belt, but that was good, the two clutches were clean and this is why I'm asking.
Some noise can be normal when you are switching between forward and reverse. There are a lot of things in the driveline that can cause this or a lot of times its a combination of a few of them due to the driveline slop. Things like the clutches and belt being worn and/or dirty, the tranny itself, ujoints/ yokes being worn, front and rear diff's, and axles can all attribute to it. All you can do is take a deeper look into each part. For example the clutches - you cleaned them which was good but inspect the belt, inspect the primary rollers and bushings and the secondary rollers (both internal and external).
does your clutch kit stop or lessen that popping -slapping the clutches make when it Engages from dead stop? I guess its a bigger problem 2012 -2013 with the higher out put 850.
Happy to help!
Very detailed. Thanks!!!
just got the kit. 4 days shipping in canada really fast. thanks a lot.jist cirious whats including in the box ?
Hi Dany, In you 550 Kit you would have one primary spring, one secondary spring and a set of weights. Enjoy the kit!
how can you inspect and check for replacing the primary clutch?
You can check your clutch bushings for ware, also check the one way bearing to make sure it spins smoothly one way and locks up the other way. Also check for grooves worn into the sheave of the clutch in the primary. Make sure the rollers spin freely but are not wobbly loose up and down. Hope that helps some.
Do they make a two way bearing to eliminate the engine braking?
On the 850 and 1000 Sportsmans and Scramblers they turn the opposite direction as the normal Polaris clutches so there are less parts out there. But I think the Scramblers use a two way that might interchange but I don't know that for sure.
Is there a kit for the 1000 sportsman xp yet and is it the same process and same team secondary as the 850???
Craig Taylor Yes it will be the same process on the 1000 Sportsman and Scrambler. We haven't tested the Sportsman yet but plan to as soon as we can get our hands on one. Hopefully in the next few weeks now that we are starting our spring testing.
I'm a good home/auto mechanic..Can I do this?
Also, I have a 2016 850 SP..Is it similar?
Yes the 2016 model uses the same process. If you watch the video it shows everthying step by step and it isn't to hard. The kits will also have step by step instructions in them to help you out. I would recommend the PCP-12 clutch puller and the CCT510 clutch compression tool to make the install a lot easier.
EPIperformance Thanks!.. I ordered the sport kit along with the tools needed..Looking forward to it!
Sounds good. Thank You!
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How do you get the spider bushings out?
To get the spider out you need a couple different tools. You will need a clutch holding tool EPI part number 358B, a spider tool part number 341 and if your clutch has a jam nut you will also need the 338 jam nut tool. Some of those have a jamnut and some dont. If you go to our website www.epiperformance.com or our youtube we have a video on doing a clutch rebuild which would show you the process. IF you are doing it on a 550, 850, or 1000 Scrambler or Sportsman the clutch spins the opposite direction when taking the spider off.
Hi, what are the primary and secondary cluches retaining bolts torque specs for a sportsman 550 eps 2013?
+The Rider Primary is 47 ft lbs and the secondary is 13-15 ft lbs.
+EPIperformance Thanks!
Is this a kit your company sells? Looking to do this on my 09 850.
Yes. You can find it at www.epiperformance.com We are the manufacture.
Can someone explain me how those clutches work?? I mean what happens when u put new Springs which are longer as i see.
Changing springs will change how fast or slow the clutches open and close. They also effect engagement, top rpms, belt squeeze and overall performance so it is important to have the correct set up that has been tested together to gain the best overall performance and clutch operation.
Thank you so much for explanation ;) happy new years !!
Thanks!
Hi! Can I use oem cvt belt with this kit?
Yes, you can.
What is the performance gain from doing this?
Hi Josh, It depends some on what kit and tire size you are using but all the kits will give you better low end and midrange power and acceleration, faster backshift and throttle response and will grip the belt better then stock. If you have larger tires then stick it will help make up for the power loss of the larger tires. Let us know if you have any questions.
i just ordered a epi clutch kit . but i didnt ordered a clutch puller... would i be able to get that in any stores ?
Hi Dany, That machine uses a special puller that you wont find in auto parts stores but any motorsports/powersports store might have or can also order one for you. You can use an OE Polaris puller or the EPI part number PCP-12 for the 850's. You can also install the kit without the puller it just is a little harder and takes two people.
Is it the same pullerfor a 550
Yes the 550, 850, and 1000 Sportsman and Scramblers all use the same puller.
hi, I have a 2012 850 xp polaris, as soon as I put the shift in drive the tires start to roll, it seems that the belt is quite tight but I don't know much about atvs, any ideas or advice?
That is normally one of three different things. #1 In most cases it is that the one way bearing in the center of the drive clutch is locked up or worn out. #2 the incorrect belt for the machine, double check the part number to see if correct. #3 The drive clutch is worn or dirty and not full disengaging. Try cleaning it and inspecting for ware.
@@EPIperformance thank you so much!, I'll check that
Hello again, just wondering if I could use a drive clutch made for a different engine size, like 800 or 570. I don’t know. Please help. Thanks
@@hugoloza9 Hello, you have to use the clutch off of a 850 if that's what you have, because the 550, 850, and 1000 Sportsmans clutches turn the opposite direction compare the the 570 and 800 so the clutch is designed a little different.
@@EPIperformance understood. And last, mine is a 2012, and I'm about to buy an 2011 used clutch. That can work?
That's a sketchy looking jack situation you've got there :)
Same as a 2017 scrambler 850?
ua-cam.com/video/6dXNe0JQ-Uo/v-deo.html It is 95% the same on the 2017 The link goes to the 2017 Sportsman video. On the 2017 you have to lift the rear fenders up about an 1 1/2 inches to get enough clearance to get the clutch off. And there is no snap ring holding the secondary spring in the clutch, the spring and helix will come out at the same time under tension. If the link doesn't work you can go our you tube page and find it under the 2017 Sportsman.
could you actívate the subtitles option in spanish? i am a great follower and i would like
Hello, unfortunately at this time we are unable to. We will try to update when possible. Thanks for watching.
is that specific tool needs to get belt loosened?
The tool we use for opening the clutch comes in some of the Polaris tool kits. On end its used to adjust your shock springs and on the other to open up the clutch. You can also use a screwdriver in there you just have to be careful not to damage the round plastic rollers.
EPIperformance does this affect top speed. I'm looking to clutch my 16 850.
With the Sport Utility Kit for Stock size or the 27-28" tire Kits the top end speed will be the same. The Mudder kit will sometimes lose 5-10 mph depending on what size tires you are using.
What rpm is the engagement point before and after the clutch kit?
it varies a little between the exact year and models but most of them are around 300 higher engagement then the stock set up.
0 need to take skid plate out.
The elevation affects the power output from the motor. Clutching is directly related to the HP and Torq output from the motor. It would depend on the tires you are running and what elevation you would ride at normally and the elevation range also you would ride at.