@@ryozaki96Cannot confirm, I also need the answer. But I am gonna guess it's Halgorithm. That guy's behind all the other super broken stuff, like the Nuclear Nathan Graves one.
It's crazy how in the span of a few months OoE went from one of the most standard speedruns to being completely and utterly broken and I'm honestly here for it.
@@DemoniteBLTo be fair to the people who didn’t know they existed, the “Map” option in the pause menu is very easy to overlook since there’s a permanent map on the top screen and the markers are invisible outside of SPECIFICALLY that menu.
Amazing that ALL of this was quite literally sat on before the Dominus collection. The only game breaking thing was the magical ticket in boss rush. Now we're playing with essentially ACE in this what seemed to be structurally coded game.
Shanoa: "Ah, I have to be the sacrifice huh, no matter, I will just use the ticket" Barlowe: "You fool, you can't use the ticket here because story progression...I mean that vessel probably disallows it or sth like that" Shanoa: "Try me" Succeeds in using it anyway with "outside help" Barlower: "Aw fuck, can't believe you've done this"
Cool stuff. Watching this, I'm really grateful for the Dominus pieces honestly for holding the run together at least a little bit so it doesn't devolve into just a straight line to Drac.
“How do Texans handle snow? We don’t.” Accurate. Any level of snowfall, and all infrastructure shuts down. We think we know what to do, but us Texans, as individuals and as government agencies, will mentally shut down in the presence of ice and snow.
I'm not that big into speedruns, but I always appreciate the feeling of looking at a game I've played and know well and think "I have no idea what the hell is going on"
Texas used to be okay with their power grid, at least, but I heard a lot of the back up generators they used got outlawed for emission standards, and they're having trouble replacing them.
I am obsessed with the literal interpretation of Shanoa going to the bad end and just using a magical ticket like "Hang on Barlowe I wanna go refill my hearts"
Zoomin through the Somnus Reef must be the best feeling. That stage is just super slow all the time. And cat combat is the greatest feature of this run. Glad this awesome glyph can shine in full glory.
A couple of the placements used in the speedrun are pixel perfect, yeah. That's why the setups before Tristis Pass and Dracula's Castle take a bit longer than the rest.
If you'd told me a year ago that Ecclesia's speedrun route would one day involve fighting Blackmore twice and also farming for Arma Felix... I'd probably have believed it, but my worldview would be in _tatters._
How come your magnes bdcs don't show any inputs on your controller? Does the input display not show inputs that only last for a short enough time? Are there some extra buttons the display isn't set up to read?
I was going to comment this very thing, not saying it’s not legit, but it just seems odd because I feel ALL inputs should display properly regardless of speed, ESPECIALLY during speed running
I use a velcro controller of my own creation. Info copy-paste: "I attached a velcro square onto the back of my numpad USB, then used Gorilla Glue to affix a velcro strip to the top of a buckle strap, which I have fastened above my right knee." Basically with this setup I can switch between a gamepad and mini-keyboard on the fly, and Ecclesia NEEDS keyboard speed for top times.
Very nice to see how far its come! Is there any possible way to bring out Albus quicker to take advantage of his teleport? Hyperspeed is super fast, but teleporting will always be faster + being able to pass through walls/floors so it might be worth a look?
Just wondering, how many of these glitches are Collection Only? To my knowledge so far, only Crab boss skip is (because on OG hardware it crashes for some reason)
I haven't checked yet so I can't tell, but this might be emulator only. On physical hardware, I can see a pin hidden off screen at the top, only a tiny red dot is visible, but you can't interact with it with the stylus no matter what you do. Only the one pin that's already clearly visible.
Niice, do you have tutorials for speedrun tricks like the movement backsteps you use? When i spam it wheres endlag and when i attack its a bit faster but an attack comes out and its not that fast
I will repeat the argument. Since these glitches require Boss Rush mode. They should be counted in NG+ category since you can't do it on a fresh load of the game.
Okay, NOW i understand this category, it was kinda hard to grasp when i was watching live yesterday! edit: oh man, the climate change run ended up being the PB
holy shit the previous route was "I gotta learn this run immediately" levels of impressive but this has graduated to "I could never do that" levels this game is INSANE
To be honest... I have no idea of what the heck happened for most of the run, like... how the heck you triggered a stupidly busted move that reminds me of using the Hyper Dash part in Megaman X5 and X6? Regardless, even if I didn't understand a thing, it was fun to watch.
Timestamps for Speedrun Highlights:
* 14:28 - Early Dracula's Castle
* 18:14 - Hyperspeed 1
* 18:50 - Cat combat (optimal btw)
* 21:00 - Hyperspeed 2
* 24:18 - Hyperspeed 3
* 26:03 - Hyperspeed vs Blackmore
* 27:06 - Hyperspeed Dracula's Castle
Who discovered these glitches? I need answers...
@@ryozaki96Cannot confirm, I also need the answer.
But I am gonna guess it's Halgorithm. That guy's behind all the other super broken stuff, like the Nuclear Nathan Graves one.
It's crazy how in the span of a few months OoE went from one of the most standard speedruns to being completely and utterly broken and I'm honestly here for it.
Twilight Princess: My turn next!
Yeah, it's amazing what happens when you get enough dedicated players to datamine and figure out the game's functionality.
all because konami just wanted to make the game more accesible
Figures that this game would have memory corruption, that's what Shanoa herself had to face. Also genuinely had no idea that the game had map markers
Me neither, probably the reason as to why it hadn't been found until now lol
Huh? What did you guys think were those little pins then? lol
@@DemoniteBLTo be fair to the people who didn’t know they existed, the “Map” option in the pause menu is very easy to overlook since there’s a permanent map on the top screen and the markers are invisible outside of SPECIFICALLY that menu.
Amazing that ALL of this was quite literally sat on before the Dominus collection. The only game breaking thing was the magical ticket in boss rush. Now we're playing with essentially ACE in this what seemed to be structurally coded game.
Seems like Order of Ecclesia is indeed a creature of chaos now with all the emerging glitches
Shanoa: "Ah, I have to be the sacrifice huh, no matter, I will just use the ticket"
Barlowe: "You fool, you can't use the ticket here because story progression...I mean that vessel probably disallows it or sth like that"
Shanoa: "Try me" Succeeds in using it anyway with "outside help"
Barlower: "Aw fuck, can't believe you've done this"
> How do Texans handle snow, we don’t
Didn’t realize Jup was a fellow Texan
"Hey, runner. Can we get Rapidus Fio?"
"No, we have Rapidus Fio at home."
*Memory corrupts in hyper speed*
*Map Markers Holy Shit*
All of this insane glitch potential hidden behind a silly little Boss Rush glitch.
I'm gonna call the new tech 'M Cube'. It's M to the third power; Map, Marker, Manipulation.
other people: dang, this is crazy
me, a non-twitch viewer: HE'S TEXAN??!!!
What an evolution of a route.
Hope the game gets a GDQ appearance cause this is a story that needs to be shared more
Sunday October 13th around midnight. Your wish has been granted
All these breakthroughs and we still need to fight the crab.
Cool stuff. Watching this, I'm really grateful for the Dominus pieces honestly for holding the run together at least a little bit so it doesn't devolve into just a straight line to Drac.
Sonic: I'm the fastest thing alive!
Shanoa: Hold my glyphs
“How do Texans handle snow? We don’t.”
Accurate. Any level of snowfall, and all infrastructure shuts down. We think we know what to do, but us Texans, as individuals and as government agencies, will mentally shut down in the presence of ice and snow.
Lol, that'd be me in a desert. Here in Quebec Canada snow is there for a full season all year
I'm not that big into speedruns, but I always appreciate the feeling of looking at a game I've played and know well and think "I have no idea what the hell is going on"
the hyperspeed is so fucking funny like why is that a memory corruption possibility
Am biased for, reasons, but I adore that cat's now speedrun optimal, if not speedrun required, and you actually use the cat in combat too
Texas used to be okay with their power grid, at least, but I heard a lot of the back up generators they used got outlawed for emission standards, and they're having trouble replacing them.
I am obsessed with the literal interpretation of Shanoa going to the bad end and just using a magical ticket like "Hang on Barlowe I wanna go refill my hearts"
I would love an in depth look at how the memory corruption glitch works and why it works.
That shit is my jam
"Wisconsin enters the chat" first time with hot summers and cold ass winters huh
Shanoa shattering reality was not on my 2024 bingo card...
Average Castlevania character:
Can confirm. Am watching this while a hurricane is coming.
This is legit approaching mario64 levels of ridiculous.
The most unorderly order of ecclesia route I have ever seen!
This looks like a TAS maker's dream come true. I can't wait to see what kind of shenanigans I can barely keep up with next thanks to all this.
Hell nah they done put Shanoa on the Judge Eyes cover
Shanoa is schmoovin' like never before!
Zoomin through the Somnus Reef must be the best feeling. That stage is just super slow all the time.
And cat combat is the greatest feature of this run. Glad this awesome glyph can shine in full glory.
Wait you are Texan? Where is the accent Jupiter!
i live in florida sadly enough and yes there is a hurricane coming lol 7:36
17:27 Certified BONK moment.
how long until some crazier memory corruption is discovered?
And now Shanoa literally backflips through space and time to ignore physics.
I love this lol.
Geting Arma Felix first try is so good
It would be great if you did videos about the history of speedruns for a castlevania game :)
My beloved Ecclesia, this is crazy how it changed thanks to the collection.
"Least broken game in the DS collection" strikes again. Amazing WR.
How precise are these map marker placements to get the effects you'd want? Are they pixel perfect?
A couple of the placements used in the speedrun are pixel perfect, yeah. That's why the setups before Tristis Pass and Dracula's Castle take a bit longer than the rest.
Hyperspeed movement makes absolutely no sense and I am all here for it
This is insane. I can't believe memory corruption wasn't discovered sooner...but maybe not many people were looking at the boss rush until recently?
I'm starting to wonder how an All Glyphs category would go now.
Fast
Gotta love a speedrun with so much speedy running.
Imagine something like this but in the ScottFalco style.
Who would win?
The evil dark lord, revived once every one hundred years, only spoken of in myths and legends
Or
One zoomy gal with train tickets
If you'd told me a year ago that Ecclesia's speedrun route would one day involve fighting Blackmore twice and also farming for Arma Felix... I'd probably have believed it, but my worldview would be in _tatters._
Always love the videos. Keeping the Castlevania dream alive :) Harmony of Despair re-release when Konami?
I wonder if some of the programers thought that moving to a more level based game would mean there would be less crazy glitch speed runs
Every time I see this game, I always think "this is so elegant". Beautiful game.
next time people will find some ACE that go straight to the credits, so fun.
Can't wait for Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia Arbitrary Code Execution Least% category.
How come your magnes bdcs don't show any inputs on your controller? Does the input display not show inputs that only last for a short enough time? Are there some extra buttons the display isn't set up to read?
I was going to comment this very thing, not saying it’s not legit, but it just seems odd because I feel ALL inputs should display properly regardless of speed, ESPECIALLY during speed running
I use a velcro controller of my own creation. Info copy-paste: "I attached a velcro square onto the back of my numpad USB, then used Gorilla Glue to affix a velcro strip to the top of a buckle strap, which I have fastened above my right knee." Basically with this setup I can switch between a gamepad and mini-keyboard on the fly, and Ecclesia NEEDS keyboard speed for top times.
Very nice to see how far its come! Is there any possible way to bring out Albus quicker to take advantage of his teleport? Hyperspeed is super fast, but teleporting will always be faster + being able to pass through walls/floors so it might be worth a look?
I swear, that Nominon is always tickling the back of Shanoa's hair, then just decides not to bother bumping into her on these really good runs.
I wonder if this renewed interest in Ecclesia will make level 1 hard mode (glitchless) a real category
Imagine what a TAS would look like with this kind of janky speed and warping. Human eyes could barely keep up with Shanoa.
OoE went from boring to busted in less than a month, just speechless. What a run!
This is wild, when Order of Ecclesia was the one in the trilogy that did NOT have glitchy shenanigans. Is memory corruption possible on the DS?
Everything on the old NMC route was found to work on the DS, so this should work, too
Probably possible, wouldn't recommend to try it on real hardware though
Just wondering, how many of these glitches are Collection Only? To my knowledge so far, only Crab boss skip is (because on OG hardware it crashes for some reason)
ACE when
How do you backdash like that? I speedrun Resident Evil games and wanna branch off to speedrunning Castlevania but idk how movement tech works.
So at 1:28 is where I need to move the map pin to get yon doors open right? The pin isn't appearing for me
I haven't checked yet so I can't tell, but this might be emulator only. On physical hardware, I can see a pin hidden off screen at the top, only a tiny red dot is visible, but you can't interact with it with the stylus no matter what you do. Only the one pin that's already clearly visible.
About time, Its amazing how quickly the speedrun community tore it appart, I fear Its gonna get worse from here :)
Man that boss rush technique always impresses me 😂 so clever
Very interesting tech. Don't have time to watch fully today, I'll just wait for your WR in a couple of days
Niice, do you have tutorials for speedrun tricks like the movement backsteps you use? When i spam it wheres endlag and when i attack its a bit faster but an attack comes out and its not that fast
i just boot up Desmume to verify that yes, this absolutely works in the original DS version (also I crashed the emulator, wiii)
Can you post the image used for the thumbnail please? it looks very cool
Which sonic game is the music from when he introduces hyper speed at 1:59 ?
Sonic 2, Emerald Hill Zone.
I will repeat the argument. Since these glitches require Boss Rush mode. They should be counted in NG+ category since you can't do it on a fresh load of the game.
Need blue dress Shanoa from HD cause she's running around at the speed of sound
This could be peformed in DS ?
Thumbs up
I was like... wait how is he goin' to get out of bad ending and keep Dominus Agony?
And then
Ohhh yeah magic 😅
Wait, you can spam her backflip?
The run is really impressive, but the hyperspeed is really hard to watch. I found I was getting motion sick just looking at the vod.
Does this end with spawning at Dracula and one shotting him?
Okay, NOW i understand this category, it was kinda hard to grasp when i was watching live yesterday!
edit: oh man, the climate change run ended up being the PB
29:51 i cant use DeSmuME make T.T
I want to play Shanoa the Hedgehog!
Greetings from 210
Hah, disorder of ecclisia
Verified *Shoo!* moments
11:31
12:12
12:37
...22:57??
Damn, you're from Texas? Huh. Small world.
Why do i find shanoa soo incredibly beautiful?
holy shit the previous route was "I gotta learn this run immediately" levels of impressive but this has graduated to "I could never do that" levels
this game is INSANE
To be honest... I have no idea of what the heck happened for most of the run, like... how the heck you triggered a stupidly busted move that reminds me of using the Hyper Dash part in Megaman X5 and X6? Regardless, even if I didn't understand a thing, it was fun to watch.
Ah yes, the global warming run 😂, amazing run again jup congrats on wr ! GG
The Ecclussy got torn.
This is insane!
I have a feeling the eventual TAS of this route will be entertaining, hehehe.
Jupiter, who can we thank for this absolutely mad-lad route?
Shanoa: "I love Sonic the Hedgehog😐"
He’s so right about how Texas handles colder climates 😭 Texas is a shit show during winter
Why is it this video I learn that Jup is Texan?