Hey everyone! Just want to say thank you! I was a bit scared releasing this video because I wasn’t sure how it was going to perform but glad to add another Slosher story to the books. With this weapon down, there are three more Sloshers to talk about: - Slosher - Explosher - Dread Wringer Lmk what you want to see next.
I remember playing a random weapon challenge and playing tri for the first time and I quote on quote said: "I keep pressing Zr and people just keep dying"
I've been playing Trislosher since Splatoon 1, and I can tell you, life as a Tri-Slosher Player is rough. Either your weapon is bad, or you get told the weapon carries you, there is no in-between lol
As a fellow Trislosher + Tri Nouveau main since S1, I can 100% relate. I've learned to just tune out the hate and appreciate my main for what it is and everything I like about it. I don't care if I'm called "Braindead" by all the toxic players, I love my little buckets and nothing will change that!
Something I wanna add about tri-slosher and sloshers in general in splatoon 1 I think a lot of people forget / didn't know is that the invincibility specials being instant meant you could consistently react to slow weapons to invalidate their playstyle. Even 4 shot shooters like N-ZAP were pushed out of the meta for being too slow at killing because of invincibility. The best option against invincibility specials was generally kill them before they pop it so you don't have to use your own, and reg slosher (whose strength wasn't understood at the time) was the only one capable of fighting.
@@dreamy_sparksI think the improvement of the kits is a big factor which is the narrative I tried to weave in. Any weapon can be incredibly annoying if given the right kit. If it’s get bad kit, it’s not annoying since it’s not as prevalent. However, your points are still valid & I believe that plays a role.
@@GUSplatoon I also agree with the points you made in the video, I just notice alot of hate for weapons with aoe, or two shot kills. Especially Rollers, Blasters and tri slosher
Internet probably is the main factor. Splat 1 had the highest tick rate, so tri wasn't much of an issue. Splat 2 and 3's tick rates were much lower, so tri-slosher would frequently kill you, even if you attack first. The weapon frequently resulting in trades, or if the ink so much as tap your toe, you basically get insta killed. Luna players also probably hate tri, since tri just outclasses luna in pretty much every way now. Tri has more range, a faster fire rate, faster mobility, and better kits than Luna Blaster and it's been like that for two games now.
As someone playing for 7 years who STILL has terrible aim, tri slosher will always be my best friend. i dont think my aim will ever get better,but with this little bucket, my kill count will >:)
As someone who usually uses weapons longer range than tri, i think it’s somewhat like good splat roller and carbon users, you just have to make sure to keep track of them unless you want them to be an issue, and i think the wide slosh radius is justified because of its short range
I think what's crazy is that despite being the absolute peak of the meta at one point in Splatoon 2, a game notorious for gutting weapons to the point they still haven’t recovered to this day, Tri Slosher basically fully recovered from all its nerfs aside from the range (even if it never really returned to S2's meta by then because of K52). And arguably it's even stronger in its effective range than it used to be due to the attack speed buff it got.
I have noticed compared to most weapons, it’s easier for me to be somewhat more confident and aggressive with the Tri Slosher than other weapons in Splatoon 2 and 3.
the best part of all slosher waeapons is the dps. I'm pretty sure the tri slosher's indended design was to follow the same as the sploosh o matic and aero spray, both weapons that are designed to get more coverage and less kills. Where this dsign fails is that typically weapons of that arcetype have poor damage and accuracy to balance out the faster fire rate. With slosher this makes no difference since the weapon naturally already has a high dps and even with the damage being a 3rd it's still a whole when spread out. What they should have done is lower the range, make the damage 4 hits on average, and leave the fire rate alone. In terms of subs and specials the weapon does not need to be a support arcetype the spread is already enough. I think having the sub be something inconcequential like beacons. For specials it should be something that isn't team wide but instead personal. Since the tri slosher already has tri in the name and collects ink quickly the trizooka would be one of the more sensical and less oppressive options. Essentially the design would be covers ground fast then uses the trizooka as their long range option which depending on how well the match is the player might have it frequently of around at best 40% of the game. The trizooka would take 180 point to fill completely. For some specific designs: - tri slosher would work well with spinkler for just covering a lot of turf and having the special often. That special should require 200 points to charge and be one of these options: zip caster is fast something sloshers aren't in terms of movement and only self applied, reef slider short fast kills need I say more, tri zooka has fitting name and long range both things the trislosher shouldn't do as a main weapon but to shore up a weakness why not. I suppose ink jet could work too but that special can be very tricky to deal with fighting against and may be too oppressive. - for a supportive but less oppressive design it could work with point sensor and wave breaker. Both that sub and special are both a bit underwhelming and share a theme. The design of this would be to focus less on ink coverage and more on disruption. The trislosher spreads a lot of ink already with point sensor and wave breaker the weapon would be a lot better at applying debuffs to the enemy the stealth prevention is niche but not unwelcome for helping the team. The're definitely weapons that do it better but the tri slosher isn't hard to use giving it some underwelming pairings isn't going to make it completely worthless even if not used often. wave breaker would take 150 points to fully charge. - last suggestion is to pair it with the curling bomb. Doing so aids speed a thing sloshers are not great at on their own. with curling bombs that helps. The special would be the crab tank. In every design I've posed the tri slosher should be bad at splatting and good at turfing. That's why most specials posed has been more combat focused. Typically the crab tank is a really good special. on the tri slosher would work well for combat definitely. The curling bomb would be the main way for the player to get to area's with more enemy ink and splat in a pinch. The crab tank would take a while to get but would be an easy way to flight or flee as needed when activated. It would take 200 points to charge fully. Let me know thoughts did I do no reasearch and played 0 hours in splatoon 3 yes but hopefull those ideas are at least somewhat interesting even if completely unfounded or I'm mistaken on the meta right now.
I feel like many people who complain about close range slayers like the tri and the clash blaster in splatoon 3 simply don't understand how easy it is to counter them. Splattershot has a faster kill time than both of them.
In my eyes, Trislosher is just a somewhat annoying weapon with fair counterplay. Could it use an AoE nerf or a range nerf? Sure, but I'd rather see other short range AoE weapons get buffed. 52 Gal on the other hand... Devs, -52% ink efficiency and reduce his paint.
@@HeDronHeDronHedron This is a full list of 52's version history from Splatoon 2, every up arrow is a buff, every down arrow is a nerf. List might be janky but that's because I just copy-pasted it from the wiki's table, and it looks fine on my device. 1.4.0 ▲ Increased firing range by roughly 6% while not changing the range at which each shot deals more than 50 damage. ▲ Bullet velocity after flying straight: 14.495 units → 18.472 units. ▲ Total range: 116.99 units → 124.944 units. ▼ Frames in the air before a bullet's damage starts decreasing: 9 → 6. ▼ Frames in the air where a bullet reaches minimum damage: 25 → 22. ▼ Points to fill special gauge: 180 → 190. 2.2.0 ▲ Points to fill special gauge: 190 → 180. 2.3.0 ▲ Increased the accuracy of the first shot and extended the time that it takes to reach minimum accuracy when continuing to shoot. ▲ Minimum frequency at which bullets shoot towards the outer reticle: 6% → 2%. ▲ Increase in chance to shoot towards the outer reticle per shot: 6% → 4%. ▲ Shots required to reach maximum frequency: 4 → 6. 3.1.0 ▲ Points to fill special gauge: 180 → 170. 4.0.0 ▲ Extended distance at which max damage can be dealt by roughly 14%, without changing firing distance. ▲ Frames in the air before a bullet's damage starts decreasing: 6 → 11. ▲ Frames in the air where a bullet reaches minimum damage: 22 → 27. 4.2.0 ▲ Reduced the interval between firing and becoming a squid or using a sub weapon by 3/60 of a second: 6 frames → 3 frames. 4.4.0 ▲ Reduced the time to shoot from squid form by 1/60 of a second: 13 frames → 12 frames. 4.5.0 ▲ Increased damage dealt to opponent Splat Brellas by roughly 21%: 0.7 multiplier → 0.85 multiplier. ▲ Increased damage dealt to opponent Splash Walls by roughly 10%: 1 multiplier → 1.1 multiplier ▲ Reduced the time to shoot from squid form by 1/60 of a second: 12 frames → 11 frames. 4.6.0 ▲ Minimum damage: 26 → 30. 4.7.0 ▲ When equipped, the Main Power Up gear ability will now also lessen shot spread variance when firing while on the ground, in addition to the benefits it previously provided. 4.9.0 ▲ Increased radius of ink coverage around feet when firing by roughly 4%: 1.4 → 1.45. 5.0.0 ▲ Increased damage dealt to the Booyah Bomb armor by roughly 17%: 0.6 multiplier → 0.7 multiplier. 5.2.0 ▲ Increased the likelihood the turf around the player's feet will be inked when firing: 2 → 0. 5.3.0 ▲ Extended the amount of time when firing continuously until shot spread reaches its max: 6 shots → 8 shots. ▲ Reduced the amount of time it takes for shot spread to return to normal: 55 frames → 25 frames. Most Shooter-type weapons will have increased shot spread when continuously firing. When the player stops firing, the shot spread gradually returns to normal, but with this fix, the amount of time it takes to return has been reduced. 5.4.0 ▲ Increased the radius of ink that lands when shooting far away by roughly 27%: 16.5 units → 21 units. 5.5.0 ▼ Reduced the radius of turf inked when a shot lands far away by roughly 5%: 21 units → 20 units. This is the most buffs a weapon has ever gotten in any of the games, or even across all of them combined. It is not "fine" balance wise.
@@HeDronHeDronHedron My guy it's high tier because of the meta we're in, balance wise it absolutely wrecks everything else around it in casual play. "weapon counters" don't exist in Splatoon, it's not a type chart, any weapon can technically beat 52, but 52 has a hell of a lot easier of a time beating anything but an Eliter on inaccessible highground than most other weapons at it's range value.
When I first got Splatoon 2, I originally HATED the Tri-Slosher. But as time passed by, Tri became one of my favorite weapons. My favorite one is Tri Nouveau.
Zinny splatling counters tri bucket really well. The Big bubbler can block it’s attacks and force it into your range. The toxic mist can also slow them to a snail’s pace while they are attacking if they are inside the cloud. This means you can just shoot them and they cannot fight back.
If the weapon was harder to use it’s be fine. I got sick of fighting it so I used it and got back to back KOs with 19 kills. I also do really good with machine when I do decide to use it.
Tri Nouveau along with Vanilla Machine and Vanilla Reef Flux have defined Splatoon 3 for me. The satisfaction of sloshes, cooler drinks, and fizzy bombs is peak PVP gaming for me.
My hate for it is because I run carbon roller And if we’re both at range attacking each other, It can spam just looking in my direction and kill me Where I have to jump and be dead on to deal 90 It’s range of effectiveness is so much larger, and it puts of a wall of ink that can legitimately be hard to see through (especially for feast or famine weapons)
When it comes to Carbon, people just spam burst bomb like crazy and you can't do nothing about it, as for 52. It requires good aim so it's less annoying
@@Bueno_YAs a 52 main... no. It requires good luck/RNG- LOTS of good luck/RNG- and insane reaction time so you can work around bad RNG. Aim is an afterthought (aka I have horrible aim and can still play the weapon well)
For real, every time there's an E-liter in the enemy team it becomes a cat and mouse game and it's really annoying. Even worse if it's a Japanese player or a X rank player 🤣😭
My issues with Tri-Slosher are that it feels too easy for just how strong it can be, and it feels like it has too much range, especially when others use it.
My only wish is for tri nouveau to go back to at least 200p for special. It barely ever gets used in comp bc it simply can't be the cooler pick in cooler meta. Although I have seen a few double cooler comps lately (such as eliter, zap, ntri, rapid) so maybe it could still find as all competitive niche. But I still hope it can get a slight buff since they nerfed fizzy bomb twice because of sloshing machine.
i have a very strong hatred towards blobblober. it’s SO annoying. the bubbles bouncing off still give off damage, and is a _true_ opp when you pull out a special that you can be splatted while using.
As a fellow competitive slosher-type main now turned mega-flex, tri was my first pick and main since splatoon 1. All of these statements are correct and I honestly hope the community stops giving this weapon crap. The kit it got at the beginning of three was pretty bad due to glitches and even now with it fixed it's still not nearly as powerful as it used to be. Also, it's nice to see someone finally point this out, great video.
@@GUSplatoon I'll never hate you because I wouldn't be good enough to get in to the same lobbies you would if we were opposites. "You'd love to have em on your team but would hate to face em" type shit🤣
THANK YOU! I see so many people hating on short-range weapons with quick kill times like tri and carbon, without actually understanding how difficult the weapons are above b- and turf 🫠🫠🫠
@@summyt09 thats lowkey why I hate mid ranged metas like the one were in right now but the competitive scene seems to think those are the best types of metas even tho its not fun to not have a chance getting in cause something like a ballpooint can continuosly fire forever until its ink runs out
@@unl3ash3d95 it's got worse since the patch. A little bit of lag and immediate damage registering means short range has very little chance of evading anything. I was doing amazing pre patch with inkbrush and now it's basically unplayable. The brushroll doesn't work to make anyone miss shots anymore. Looks like I have to move on to playing splatlings.
People calling Machine broken (at least after the bug was fixed) is really funny. Yeah its kit was really good, but the weapon was only as good to begin with as it was in Splatoon 2 i’m pretty sure. Now the weapon itself has been nerfed to be worse than it has ever been before (its still decent imo) and people still occasionally moan about it. It isn’t an easy weapon, most people I see in random who use Machine absolutely suck at it, and are usually the weakest link for their team. I used to main Machine for entirety of Splatoon 2, but am currently maining Bamboozler, btw. Even a hard to use weapon like Bamboo kills more quickly.
Commenting before watching the video as a prediction... its the janky hit-box. sometimes the weapon just doesn't look like it hits but then sure enough it did?
lol i play tri slosher and i love it and i do have skilled and i have played this game for many years you cannot convince me otherwise i am not braindead lol
“It requires aim!” Yeah, but when someone who can aim uses it, it’s basically unbeatable, with good paint, 2 shot, ink efficiency, splash wall, range, and an annoying displacement special.
I've always loved tri slosher since splatoon 1 but sadly it fell a bit in 3... The kits aren't for me :/ (Splatoon 2's nouveau kit was my beloved one) But I do think it should be nerfed somewhat. Like less range? Or make it a 3 hit kill how fast it is. It feels too fast to have a 2 shot in my opinion
Woah, you're the first person I've ever seen who also prefers the Splat 2 Nouveau kit. This kit was soooo much fun! Still hoping for a "rework" kit with Splat Bomb + Chumps since they don't do exact reworks from 2.
@@strohkoenig I would love to see a splat bomb + chumps for a tri slosher! (Maybe a sheldon's pick that would use the green design) Other kits i've had made were: curling + wave (splat 1 nouveau kit) or curling/torp + rain (I love rain)
I'm personally not influenced by how it was at the start of splat 2 because I didnt have a switch then lol But i find the trislosher to be really damn annoying to go against because either I die to it in the blink of an eye, or we trade. ALWAYS, always trade There's no just killing it lmao I don't think it's OP tho It has to get in somehow Definitely not as insane as the Carbon Roller Deco
I hate Tri Slosher (and Slosher itself) because I still don't understand how to use it properly. Like, I learnt how to play Machine Blob Explo Dread (even main Blob) yet I don't understand how the regular two buckets work That's just funny playing the Slosher class without understanding its' most basic weapon
I have some guides & gameplay videos if you’re interested in learning more about Tri & Slosher. Tri is the much easier version to use of the two & I’ll upload gameplay tips on it this week. As for Slosher, to be entirely honest, it’s just a weapon that takes a long time to master. I think I’ve been playing it for around 5? years now & even I’m still finding ways to improve it.
I could digest getting the most basic of Slosher down if I really just throw myself with the weapon, but Tri really just either feel powerful in the right spot or extremely clunky sometimes. Appriciate the upcoming video about Tri and will be checking back on it. Cheers!
I started playing Splatoon in 2018 (after the tri meta) and never understood why this weapon gets so many hate despite being rather irrelevant and basically always outclassed by shooters. Like yeah, tell me how easy my weapon is while playing shot, 52 or nzap, which are by far the easiest weapons in the game and for some reason still receive buff after buff, making them the biggest issue in the entire series for ~4 years in a row now. The devs could give out the Side Order "Homing Shots" chip effect to all popular shooters and somehow tri would still be the issue for some people lol Well, I moved away from tri in this game. Toxic Mist isn't fun and the other kit is the best support kit in the entire game but doesn't support an aggro playstyle. Maybe Splat 4 will give out better kits again.
Honestly trislosher is annoying but fun annoying, sure it goes for a two shot but it was a fun way to be more aggro despite the kits when in splatoon 1 tho was fun to use when in splatoon 2 and 3(especially with splat3 for the trislosher newvou)
1 my most hated weapon is splatershot :3 2 trislosher and sloshing machine are brain dead because of high hit box, i am a sloshing machine user since splatoon 1 and splatoon 3 made me hate the weapon 3 is so weird that people hate the non shooter weapons every time they are on meta when most of them are because of a shooter
its funny how you wouldn't hate splattershot if it got a different or shit special. Also it seems like ppl hate more when a shooter is top tier compared to anything else. The reason it might feel that way is because the non shooter weapons that do make it to top tier typically have already obnoxious attributes that contribute to their top tier status like when machine was meta it had a a banger kit plus stupid aoe. If weapons like squiffer, goo tuber, stamper, or some other weapons that take skill become meta then I'm pretty sure most people would be fine with it which I believe ppl are cool with stamper being at the top rn.
@@unl3ash3d95I used to think stamper was super op. I decided to finally 4 star it recently. It taught me the weapons weaknesses and now I think stamper is the best example of a hard to use top tier
Hey everyone! Just want to say thank you! I was a bit scared releasing this video because I wasn’t sure how it was going to perform but glad to add another Slosher story to the books.
With this weapon down, there are three more Sloshers to talk about:
- Slosher
- Explosher
- Dread Wringer
Lmk what you want to see next.
Explo
@@Flares_splatoonooooh. That would be interesting tbh.
The other two would be longer lol but explo might be a good video to take on.
@@GUSplatoon yeah with custom explo becoming good from one indirect buff and it would be funny to hear about heavy baller again
dread literally nobody talks about dread
Explosher
I remember playing a random weapon challenge and playing tri for the first time and I quote on quote said: "I keep pressing Zr and people just keep dying"
Doesn’t it feel like sometimes you’re magnet & all the enemies just come closer to you & press ZR continuously & leave the lobby will like a 20+ K/A?
Sounds like me on Squeezer
It's Quote Unquote, not quote on quote.
And really, it should be *quote* , "say my thingy," unquote.
I've been playing Trislosher since Splatoon 1, and I can tell you, life as a Tri-Slosher Player is rough.
Either your weapon is bad, or you get told the weapon carries you, there is no in-between lol
YOOOOOOOOOO
Big fan btw! But yeah, it’s been a roller coaster of emotions for us Slosher players lol
Tri-Slosher Noveau user here! it's hard out here in these streets
As a fellow Trislosher + Tri Nouveau main since S1, I can 100% relate. I've learned to just tune out the hate and appreciate my main for what it is and everything I like about it. I don't care if I'm called "Braindead" by all the toxic players, I love my little buckets and nothing will change that!
Something I wanna add about tri-slosher and sloshers in general in splatoon 1 I think a lot of people forget / didn't know is that the invincibility specials being instant meant you could consistently react to slow weapons to invalidate their playstyle. Even 4 shot shooters like N-ZAP were pushed out of the meta for being too slow at killing because of invincibility.
The best option against invincibility specials was generally kill them before they pop it so you don't have to use your own, and reg slosher (whose strength wasn't understood at the time) was the only one capable of fighting.
Also Burst Bomb Slosher with 1-main of Damage Up was a combo that 1-shots, which is nutty
It's crazy it's been over 7 years since tri was dominant for a few weeks and that's why the hate for it still exists
Nahh, its mostly hated because it has so much range short killtime and takes not alot of aim aswell as encouraging Camping/sharking
@@dreamy_sparksI think the improvement of the kits is a big factor which is the narrative I tried to weave in.
Any weapon can be incredibly annoying if given the right kit. If it’s get bad kit, it’s not annoying since it’s not as prevalent.
However, your points are still valid & I believe that plays a role.
@@GUSplatoon I also agree with the points you made in the video, I just notice alot of hate for weapons with aoe, or two shot kills.
Especially Rollers, Blasters and tri slosher
Internet probably is the main factor. Splat 1 had the highest tick rate, so tri wasn't much of an issue.
Splat 2 and 3's tick rates were much lower, so tri-slosher would frequently kill you, even if you attack first. The weapon frequently resulting in trades, or if the ink so much as tap your toe, you basically get insta killed.
Luna players also probably hate tri, since tri just outclasses luna in pretty much every way now. Tri has more range, a faster fire rate, faster mobility, and better kits than Luna Blaster and it's been like that for two games now.
What is tick rate in context of splatoon 3??
as a main of the Tri-Slosher Nouveau I am absolutely ecstatic that people hate me.
SAME BRO
Deadass got 31 Splats in a Splat Zones match once
@@mailman019 A person of culture, I see!
Keep it up 🫡
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As someone playing for 7 years who STILL has terrible aim, tri slosher will always be my best friend. i dont think my aim will ever get better,but with this little bucket, my kill count will >:)
Based Dream team bros ost in the background !
I’m super excited for brothership.
@@GUSplatoon Honestly Same ! I missed this series so much !
0:29 Not the 52 gal tableturf card lol
Lmao, I’m glad you noticed
As someone who usually uses weapons longer range than tri, i think it’s somewhat like good splat roller and carbon users, you just have to make sure to keep track of them unless you want them to be an issue, and i think the wide slosh radius is justified because of its short range
I think what's crazy is that despite being the absolute peak of the meta at one point in Splatoon 2, a game notorious for gutting weapons to the point they still haven’t recovered to this day, Tri Slosher basically fully recovered from all its nerfs aside from the range (even if it never really returned to S2's meta by then because of K52). And arguably it's even stronger in its effective range than it used to be due to the attack speed buff it got.
I have noticed compared to most weapons, it’s easier for me to be somewhat more confident and aggressive with the Tri Slosher than other weapons in Splatoon 2 and 3.
the best part of all slosher waeapons is the dps. I'm pretty sure the tri slosher's indended design was to follow the same as the sploosh o matic and aero spray, both weapons that are designed to get more coverage and less kills. Where this dsign fails is that typically weapons of that arcetype have poor damage and accuracy to balance out the faster fire rate. With slosher this makes no difference since the weapon naturally already has a high dps and even with the damage being a 3rd it's still a whole when spread out. What they should have done is lower the range, make the damage 4 hits on average, and leave the fire rate alone.
In terms of subs and specials the weapon does not need to be a support arcetype the spread is already enough. I think having the sub be something inconcequential like beacons. For specials it should be something that isn't team wide but instead personal. Since the tri slosher already has tri in the name and collects ink quickly the trizooka would be one of the more sensical and less oppressive options. Essentially the design would be covers ground fast then uses the trizooka as their long range option which depending on how well the match is the player might have it frequently of around at best 40% of the game. The trizooka would take 180 point to fill completely.
For some specific designs:
- tri slosher would work well with spinkler for just covering a lot of turf and having the special often. That special should require 200 points to charge and be one of these options: zip caster is fast something sloshers aren't in terms of movement and only self applied, reef slider short fast kills need I say more, tri zooka has fitting name and long range both things the trislosher shouldn't do as a main weapon but to shore up a weakness why not. I suppose ink jet could work too but that special can be very tricky to deal with fighting against and may be too oppressive.
- for a supportive but less oppressive design it could work with point sensor and wave breaker. Both that sub and special are both a bit underwhelming and share a theme. The design of this would be to focus less on ink coverage and more on disruption. The trislosher spreads a lot of ink already with point sensor and wave breaker the weapon would be a lot better at applying debuffs to the enemy the stealth prevention is niche but not unwelcome for helping the team. The're definitely weapons that do it better but the tri slosher isn't hard to use giving it some underwelming pairings isn't going to make it completely worthless even if not used often. wave breaker would take 150 points to fully charge.
- last suggestion is to pair it with the curling bomb. Doing so aids speed a thing sloshers are not great at on their own. with curling bombs that helps. The special would be the crab tank. In every design I've posed the tri slosher should be bad at splatting and good at turfing. That's why most specials posed has been more combat focused. Typically the crab tank is a really good special. on the tri slosher would work well for combat definitely. The curling bomb would be the main way for the player to get to area's with more enemy ink and splat in a pinch. The crab tank would take a while to get but would be an easy way to flight or flee as needed when activated. It would take 200 points to charge fully.
Let me know thoughts did I do no reasearch and played 0 hours in splatoon 3 yes but hopefull those ideas are at least somewhat interesting even if completely unfounded or I'm mistaken on the meta right now.
I feel like many people who complain about close range slayers like the tri and the clash blaster in splatoon 3 simply don't understand how easy it is to counter them. Splattershot has a faster kill time than both of them.
I just now noticed that the s1 tri shlosher is 3d printed 😯
Yes!
yo thanks for crediting my footage! that was actually my *very first youtube video ever!!* hahaha
Thanks for uploading that gameplay!!! Always hard finding full on Splatoon 1 gameplay.
In my eyes, Trislosher is just a somewhat annoying weapon with fair counterplay. Could it use an AoE nerf or a range nerf? Sure, but I'd rather see other short range AoE weapons get buffed.
52 Gal on the other hand... Devs, -52% ink efficiency and reduce his paint.
nope, 52 is fine
@@HeDronHeDronHedron This is a full list of 52's version history from Splatoon 2, every up arrow is a buff, every down arrow is a nerf. List might be janky but that's because I just copy-pasted it from the wiki's table, and it looks fine on my device.
1.4.0
▲ Increased firing range by roughly 6% while not changing the range at which each shot deals more than 50 damage.
▲ Bullet velocity after flying straight: 14.495 units → 18.472 units.
▲ Total range: 116.99 units → 124.944 units.
▼ Frames in the air before a bullet's damage starts decreasing: 9 → 6.
▼ Frames in the air where a bullet reaches minimum damage: 25 → 22.
▼ Points to fill special gauge: 180 → 190.
2.2.0
▲ Points to fill special gauge: 190 → 180.
2.3.0
▲ Increased the accuracy of the first shot and extended the time that it takes to reach minimum accuracy when continuing to shoot.
▲ Minimum frequency at which bullets shoot towards the outer reticle: 6% → 2%.
▲ Increase in chance to shoot towards the outer reticle per shot: 6% → 4%.
▲ Shots required to reach maximum frequency: 4 → 6.
3.1.0
▲ Points to fill special gauge: 180 → 170.
4.0.0
▲ Extended distance at which max damage can be dealt by roughly 14%, without changing firing distance.
▲ Frames in the air before a bullet's damage starts decreasing: 6 → 11.
▲ Frames in the air where a bullet reaches minimum damage: 22 → 27.
4.2.0
▲ Reduced the interval between firing and becoming a squid or using a sub weapon by 3/60 of a second: 6 frames → 3 frames.
4.4.0
▲ Reduced the time to shoot from squid form by 1/60 of a second: 13 frames → 12 frames.
4.5.0
▲ Increased damage dealt to opponent Splat Brellas by roughly 21%: 0.7 multiplier → 0.85 multiplier.
▲ Increased damage dealt to opponent Splash Walls by roughly 10%: 1 multiplier → 1.1 multiplier
▲ Reduced the time to shoot from squid form by 1/60 of a second: 12 frames → 11 frames.
4.6.0
▲ Minimum damage: 26 → 30.
4.7.0
▲ When equipped, the Main Power Up gear ability will now also lessen shot spread variance when firing while on the ground, in addition to the benefits it previously provided.
4.9.0
▲ Increased radius of ink coverage around feet when firing by roughly 4%: 1.4 → 1.45.
5.0.0
▲ Increased damage dealt to the Booyah Bomb armor by roughly 17%: 0.6 multiplier → 0.7 multiplier.
5.2.0
▲ Increased the likelihood the turf around the player's feet will be inked when firing: 2 → 0.
5.3.0
▲ Extended the amount of time when firing continuously until shot spread reaches its max: 6 shots → 8 shots.
▲ Reduced the amount of time it takes for shot spread to return to normal: 55 frames → 25 frames.
Most Shooter-type weapons will have increased shot spread when continuously firing.
When the player stops firing, the shot spread gradually returns to normal, but with this fix, the amount of time it takes to return has been reduced.
5.4.0
▲ Increased the radius of ink that lands when shooting far away by roughly 27%: 16.5 units → 21 units.
5.5.0
▼ Reduced the radius of turf inked when a shot lands far away by roughly 5%: 21 units → 20 units.
This is the most buffs a weapon has ever gotten in any of the games, or even across all of them combined. It is not "fine" balance wise.
@@MeloniestNeon and yet, it is still only a high tier, and plenty of other short and mid range weapons can beat it
@@HeDronHeDronHedron My guy it's high tier because of the meta we're in, balance wise it absolutely wrecks everything else around it in casual play. "weapon counters" don't exist in Splatoon, it's not a type chart, any weapon can technically beat 52, but 52 has a hell of a lot easier of a time beating anything but an Eliter on inaccessible highground than most other weapons at it's range value.
@@MeloniestNeondon’t bother with that guy. He loves to argue in every comment section he’s in
When I first got Splatoon 2, I originally HATED the Tri-Slosher. But as time passed by, Tri became one of my favorite weapons.
My favorite one is Tri Nouveau.
I kid you not, when I had it in turf war once, every one targeted me. They really said "I hate the way you walk and the way you talk" 💀
I mean at least you didn't use clash blaster. I HATE CLASH BLASTER. Also aerospray rg is FOUL.
@@BookWormYuri aerospray rg annoys tf outta me cus i know EXACTLY why they use it
Zinny splatling counters tri bucket really well. The Big bubbler can block it’s attacks and force it into your range. The toxic mist can also slow them to a snail’s pace while they are attacking if they are inside the cloud. This means you can just shoot them and they cannot fight back.
I like the Zinny splatling. I don’t know which one that is but it sounds cool.
Alphastar716 proved Tri wasnt brainless in Splatoon 2 ill stand by that statement until the end of time
I have a functioning brain! 🥸
If the weapon was harder to use it’s be fine. I got sick of fighting it so I used it and got back to back KOs with 19 kills. I also do really good with machine when I do decide to use it.
Yeah i think one time I used tri slosher for the first time in a while and i got a 32 bomb first match no warm up needed
Tri Nouveau along with Vanilla Machine and Vanilla Reef Flux have defined Splatoon 3 for me. The satisfaction of sloshes, cooler drinks, and fizzy bombs is peak PVP gaming for me.
1:12 the fact that Mr A game footage is used is amazing 🤣
it's actually 52 now but s2 nostalgia is always fun
My hate for it is because I run carbon roller
And if we’re both at range attacking each other,
It can spam just looking in my direction and kill me
Where I have to jump and be dead on to deal 90
It’s range of effectiveness is so much larger, and it puts of a wall of ink that can legitimately be hard to see through (especially for feast or famine weapons)
“Most hated weapon”
Carbon (and possibly 52) in question:
When it comes to Carbon, people just spam burst bomb like crazy and you can't do nothing about it, as for 52. It requires good aim so it's less annoying
bathtub and clash walking in:
@@Bueno_YAs a 52 main... no. It requires good luck/RNG- LOTS of good luck/RNG- and insane reaction time so you can work around bad RNG. Aim is an afterthought (aka I have horrible aim and can still play the weapon well)
“Tri-slosher is the most hated weapon!”
E-liter:
For real, every time there's an E-liter in the enemy team it becomes a cat and mouse game and it's really annoying. Even worse if it's a Japanese player or a X rank player 🤣😭
My issues with Tri-Slosher are that it feels too easy for just how strong it can be, and it feels like it has too much range, especially when others use it.
Actual tri-slosher main 👈
Same!
Gus: makes video
.52 gal: 😈
I think you meant .52 gal but accidently said tri slosher, thats ok
.52 gal is just a virgin glooga. 😡
I have 52 problems but Tri ain’t one.
My only wish is for tri nouveau to go back to at least 200p for special. It barely ever gets used in comp bc it simply can't be the cooler pick in cooler meta. Although I have seen a few double cooler comps lately (such as eliter, zap, ntri, rapid) so maybe it could still find as all competitive niche. But I still hope it can get a slight buff since they nerfed fizzy bomb twice because of sloshing machine.
I don’t even mind trislosher all that much these days. I mostly despise hydra, e-liter and range blaster. Wellstring on occasion.
As a tri main so many things counter it
i hate this weapon too and i main the dang thing (i enjoyed vanilla most but its not as fun after they nerfed inkjet those seasons ago)
Great! The Tri-Slosher can get foes to rage quit over it! I was planning to use this weapon for Grand Fest! Now I have double impact!
My takeaway is also that they should never put burst bombs on any sloshers ever again
:O
Yeah, that’s fair lmao
i have a very strong hatred towards blobblober. it’s SO annoying. the bubbles bouncing off still give off damage, and is a _true_ opp when you pull out a special that you can be splatted while using.
As a fellow competitive slosher-type main now turned mega-flex, tri was my first pick and main since splatoon 1. All of these statements are correct and I honestly hope the community stops giving this weapon crap. The kit it got at the beginning of three was pretty bad due to glitches and even now with it fixed it's still not nearly as powerful as it used to be.
Also, it's nice to see someone finally point this out, great video.
It's not the weapons I hate, its the people I hate that use them and constantly kill me with it😂
So, you hate me basically.
@@GUSplatoon I'll never hate you because I wouldn't be good enough to get in to the same lobbies you would if we were opposites. "You'd love to have em on your team but would hate to face em" type shit🤣
It takes a lot of planning to get in with short range weapons. It really isn't skill less
THANK YOU! I see so many people hating on short-range weapons with quick kill times like tri and carbon, without actually understanding how difficult the weapons are above b- and turf 🫠🫠🫠
@@summyt09 thats lowkey why I hate mid ranged metas like the one were in right now but the competitive scene seems to think those are the best types of metas even tho its not fun to not have a chance getting in cause something like a ballpooint can continuosly fire forever until its ink runs out
@@unl3ash3d95 it's got worse since the patch. A little bit of lag and immediate damage registering means short range has very little chance of evading anything. I was doing amazing pre patch with inkbrush and now it's basically unplayable. The brushroll doesn't work to make anyone miss shots anymore. Looks like I have to move on to playing splatlings.
People calling Machine broken (at least after the bug was fixed) is really funny. Yeah its kit was really good, but the weapon was only as good to begin with as it was in Splatoon 2 i’m pretty sure. Now the weapon itself has been nerfed to be worse than it has ever been before (its still decent imo) and people still occasionally moan about it. It isn’t an easy weapon, most people I see in random who use Machine absolutely suck at it, and are usually the weakest link for their team.
I used to main Machine for entirety of Splatoon 2, but am currently maining Bamboozler, btw. Even a hard to use weapon like Bamboo kills more quickly.
I mean it is a pretty easy weapon to play. I got a friend who just got into the game to pick it up, and he had an easy time with it lol.
Tri-Slosher Nouveau main here. Can confirm, I am brain dead with no skill and no aim.
Keep wrecking havoc, soldier 🫡
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Yo thats my favorite weapon tho!
It’s one of my favorites too
What's the most loved weapon in splatoon?
the thumbnail 😭😭😭
Commenting before watching the video as a prediction...
its the janky hit-box.
sometimes the weapon just doesn't look like it hits but then sure enough it did?
That’s part of it.
lol i play tri slosher and i love it and i do have skilled and i have played this game for many years you cannot convince me otherwise i am not braindead lol
I dislike tri at times but there is no weapon I despise more than 52 gal…
“It requires aim!” Yeah, but when someone who can aim uses it, it’s basically unbeatable, with good paint, 2 shot, ink efficiency, splash wall, range, and an annoying displacement special.
I hate the painbrush, i get killed by it every time.
Put some respect on my main bro 😭
Do they know?
They don’t know.
I've always loved tri slosher since splatoon 1 but sadly it fell a bit in 3... The kits aren't for me :/
(Splatoon 2's nouveau kit was my beloved one)
But I do think it should be nerfed somewhat. Like less range?
Or make it a 3 hit kill how fast it is. It feels too fast to have a 2 shot in my opinion
Nouveau* It is spelled with French conventions.
@@MaoRatto yes, I know. It was a small error on my half. I didnt see it :P
Woah, you're the first person I've ever seen who also prefers the Splat 2 Nouveau kit. This kit was soooo much fun!
Still hoping for a "rework" kit with Splat Bomb + Chumps since they don't do exact reworks from 2.
@@strohkoenig I would love to see a splat bomb + chumps for a tri slosher! (Maybe a sheldon's pick that would use the green design)
Other kits i've had made were: curling + wave (splat 1 nouveau kit) or curling/torp + rain (I love rain)
@@strohkoenig I wished most of the kit for Rollers wasn't so trash or the crappy map design in Splatoon 3. :X
I'm personally not influenced by how it was at the start of splat 2 because I didnt have a switch then lol
But i find the trislosher to be really damn annoying to go against because either I die to it in the blink of an eye, or we trade.
ALWAYS, always trade
There's no just killing it lmao
I don't think it's OP tho
It has to get in somehow
Definitely not as insane as the Carbon Roller Deco
tri has way too much range
I hate Tri Slosher (and Slosher itself) because I still don't understand how to use it properly.
Like, I learnt how to play Machine Blob Explo Dread (even main Blob) yet I don't understand how the regular two buckets work
That's just funny playing the Slosher class without understanding its' most basic weapon
I have some guides & gameplay videos if you’re interested in learning more about Tri & Slosher.
Tri is the much easier version to use of the two & I’ll upload gameplay tips on it this week.
As for Slosher, to be entirely honest, it’s just a weapon that takes a long time to master. I think I’ve been playing it for around 5? years now & even I’m still finding ways to improve it.
I could digest getting the most basic of Slosher down if I really just throw myself with the weapon, but Tri really just either feel powerful in the right spot or extremely clunky sometimes.
Appriciate the upcoming video about Tri and will be checking back on it. Cheers!
I started playing Splatoon in 2018 (after the tri meta) and never understood why this weapon gets so many hate despite being rather irrelevant and basically always outclassed by shooters.
Like yeah, tell me how easy my weapon is while playing shot, 52 or nzap, which are by far the easiest weapons in the game and for some reason still receive buff after buff, making them the biggest issue in the entire series for ~4 years in a row now.
The devs could give out the Side Order "Homing Shots" chip effect to all popular shooters and somehow tri would still be the issue for some people lol
Well, I moved away from tri in this game. Toxic Mist isn't fun and the other kit is the best support kit in the entire game but doesn't support an aggro playstyle.
Maybe Splat 4 will give out better kits again.
Nah Ima keep using tri-slosher
I’m not telling anyone not to use it 💀
I use it as well.
Honestly trislosher is annoying but fun annoying, sure it goes for a two shot but it was a fun way to be more aggro despite the kits when in splatoon 1 tho was fun to use when in splatoon 2 and 3(especially with splat3 for the trislosher newvou)
wait people don’t like this weapon? i think it’s fun!
honestly tri slosh ain’t as hated as 52 gal 🤣both casual and comp wise
1 my most hated weapon is splatershot :3
2 trislosher and sloshing machine are brain dead because of high hit box, i am a sloshing machine user since splatoon 1 and splatoon 3 made me hate the weapon
3 is so weird that people hate the non shooter weapons every time they are on meta when most of them are because of a shooter
its funny how you wouldn't hate splattershot if it got a different or shit special. Also it seems like ppl hate more when a shooter is top tier compared to anything else. The reason it might feel that way is because the non shooter weapons that do make it to top tier typically have already obnoxious attributes that contribute to their top tier status like when machine was meta it had a a banger kit plus stupid aoe. If weapons like squiffer, goo tuber, stamper, or some other weapons that take skill become meta then I'm pretty sure most people would be fine with it which I believe ppl are cool with stamper being at the top rn.
@@unl3ash3d95I used to think stamper was super op. I decided to finally 4 star it recently. It taught me the weapons weaknesses and now I think stamper is the best example of a hard to use top tier
@@BigPro1123 yeah that’s why I, a shooter main, am personally cool with stamper being a top tier I respect the weapon bc it is by no means easy to use
Ok but i hate the clash blaster more. Just a little bit.
Clashbladter is more anoying
The Nouveau one in Splatoon 3, I can understand, but the vanilla one? Really?
It's pretty mid in my opinion.
It was during the peak of inkjet meta when people were saying ink jet was easy because of the bigger radius hitbox.
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For me it was the Bloblobber, personally. I cannot recall how many times I've been splatted by it over 2 AND 3.
Nah nozler is much worse
What
That blue hose thing that shoots in burst of three and is a sorry excuse of a splatershot.
.52:
You’re gonna give me 52 subs? Aw, thank you.
@@GUSplatoon me and my 51 clones: