Amazing HO Erie 5016 2-8-8-8-2 Triplex pulling 20's - 30's 55 car freight train. Loksound Select. HD

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  • @jefflynnalex
    @jefflynnalex 12 років тому +10

    Beautiful train. Love the vintage rolling stock models from Ulrich, Ambroid and others plus some recent models of older equipment. Not a single all steel boxcar in the train!

  • @civax778
    @civax778 3 роки тому

    LAYOUT AND AMERICAN TRAIN .... FANTASTIC !!! I'm italian! and I'm a fan of American railways, YOU ARE THE BEST !! I hope to return to the US soon. A BIG HELLO ( GUIDOC) FROM TUSCANY ITALY thanks

  • @jefflynnalex
    @jefflynnalex 12 років тому +1

    First all steel standardized boxcar was the 1923 ARA boxcar of which many thousands were built. Many railroads, however, built composite versions of the car rather than the all steel version. The Ulrich composite boxcar is one version of that car. I collect vintage HO models of 1920s and 30s era locos and equipment. Great to see someone with a similar modeling tack.

  • @KB9813
    @KB9813 10 років тому +6

    When I first loaded the video and it played all I can say is Wow..... One hell of a loco and layout.

  • @PaintballGargoyle
    @PaintballGargoyle 4 роки тому +1

    The middle set of drivers seems to be trying to run faster than the front and rear on the model

  • @thegrandodogarongamer2377
    @thegrandodogarongamer2377 2 роки тому

    I absolutely love the whistle you used for your Triplex.

  • @willamcombs1106
    @willamcombs1106 6 років тому +1

    I don't usually comment on Model Railroad videos, but here I'll make an exception. thank You for a well done video. I liked the fact that you allowed the entire train to pass in review several times. That is something that you don't usually see. It's like move video compilers think that the only thing interesting is the Locomotive. Very good detail. Again, thank you.

    • @brandonwells1758
      @brandonwells1758 6 років тому

      Same here. The Virginian triplex has to be one of my favorite steam engines. It looks so cool. How I wish it could have another chance

  • @jwrailve3615
    @jwrailve3615 2 роки тому +1

    I’m attempting to model the 1910-1935 south coastal Texas GCL railroad. And these cars show me a lot of what I want to see on my own layout. I need large quantity of hoppers for cotton seed, and a couple dozen or more of cattle cars.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  2 роки тому +1

      Many of these cars are craftsman wood kits sold between 1950’s and 1970’s. Half of these kits I bought built up and some I built.
      Plastic wagons are Athearn, Red Caboose, Roundhouse and Intermountain.
      Currently, there are not many choices for that era.
      Regarding hoppers, the only era correct for the Triplex, are the resin kits from Tichy. Good luck.

    • @jwrailve3615
      @jwrailve3615 2 роки тому

      @@truebras I’m definitely having that issue, most rolling stock I find is late 1800’s or 1930-1950’s rolling stock

  • @beboboymann3823
    @beboboymann3823 10 років тому +2

    I glanced at the thumb for this video and thinking the video was of an actual train I opened it and could not believe my eyes. This is fantastic.....the modeling of everything is mind blowing.....I could not tear myself away. Great job! You should be proud of your work and keep up the good work.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  10 років тому

      Thanks, I try to do (built and modify) my best. There are more interesting models coming in the pipeline.

  • @claymore19kilo
    @claymore19kilo 2 роки тому

    i have the MTH O scale triplex and at any scale its awasome but the O scales whistle will shatter your eardrums lol just great, this is by far my favorate engine!

  • @hermit1249
    @hermit1249 5 років тому +3

    What a superb layout!

  • @Frabas02081912
    @Frabas02081912 11 років тому +5

    It is a big improvements, just by switching the decoders, that is what I noticed as well with the Bachmann locos,..

  • @UnknownIdaho
    @UnknownIdaho 10 років тому +1

    Enjoying your train, the cars are especially appealing as I plan on modeling 1929 in O scale. Of course then there is the Triplex! Loved them since the in-depth articles on them in Live Steam magazine back in the 1970's. Looks like the models preform better than the originals, the originals had stoker problems etc. (can you imagine how much coal these things ate?) and shortly later were converted to 2-8-8-2s.

  • @caesarillion
    @caesarillion 8 років тому

    AT first I saw the locomotive and thought it was cool but kind of "ho hum." Then I saw the train! OMG. What a dream! Thanks, Paul

  • @truebras
    @truebras  12 років тому +3

    Thanks for the info. I started to get these cars because of the triplex. Then, I found out that there isn't much of that era being produced. So, I have to go after those old kits. Luckily, I was able to find these cars thru state sale collections. I think there is not much way around making a ore hopper train than building Tichy kits, right? MTH came out with USRA 2 bay hoppers, but I think they are very modern.

  • @yuyuhaio
    @yuyuhaio 4 роки тому +1

    I noticed on the uphill climb that the center 8 drivers were putting out a lot more revolutions than the front and back drivers. Does this happen often or is that only when going up gradients? I'd imagine it can't be good for the loco in the long run.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  4 роки тому +2

      yuyuhaio, Well that is the old phrase that comes from rivet counters. They feel proud that they have something wrong to point out and they think that they are the first to do it so. But they don’t read comments below. Your answer is on some of old comments. And yes, the problem has been rectified few years ago.

    • @yuyuhaio
      @yuyuhaio 4 роки тому +2

      @@truebras I wouldn't say I'm proud to have noticed it as much as it was genuine curiosity if it was still a problem, as it would have be a shame for this lovely model. Granted you seem to be a professional and I'll admit if I had looked through a few more comments I'd have found the answer to my question. My apologies.

  • @struck2soon
    @struck2soon 9 років тому +7

    It's a beast! On the video it appears the drivers are rotating at different speeds, has this been rectified?

  • @Thatwackytech
    @Thatwackytech 7 років тому

    OUTSTANDING... I could sit here & watch al....Oh CRAP! I GOTTA GET TO WORK!!!!

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 8 років тому

    Wow!I felt like I was waiting in my car for the train to pass.Great assortment of rolling stock.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      Thanks. Many of these cars are quite unique because they are 1960's and 1970's wood kits. Many will never be produced in plastic because, they won't sell in great numbers.

  • @DeffHi
    @DeffHi 8 років тому

    The level of detail in your work is astounding. Some of the shots blur the line between model and the real thing.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      Part of the goal of this hobby is to reproduce the way that RR used to be. Also, I owe a lot of credit to the former members of this club that have been adding details to this layout since 1962. The GGMRS club was active until the end of last year (2105). It is located in the basement of Randall Museum in San Francisco. A museum catered to kids. Which is now being remodeled by the SF City and Parks Rec agency. It is uncertain if the layout will be there or operational when opens again since under the eyes of some very kid's advocating parents and some of people in charge of running of this museum, that this layout should be basically totally allowed to the kids to operate it. Despite of kids and their parents had no clue about how RRs run.

  • @kevinbrooks6265
    @kevinbrooks6265 11 років тому +1

    man that is an incredible virginian!

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 8 років тому +1

    Amazing love the long train,so real.

  • @ctskifreaks
    @ctskifreaks 6 років тому +1

    I saw the traction engine on the flat car and could only think of "hey it's Trevor!"

  • @BastiaanBlinksma
    @BastiaanBlinksma 11 років тому

    It is a great honour, thank you, beautifull train and video,..

  • @hankrogers8431
    @hankrogers8431 4 роки тому

    That is one LOOOOOOOONG train!

  • @PFR1
    @PFR1 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing your terrific MTH HO triplex work and results through your videos. How do you remove the boiler shell? I'd like to inspect the motor and drive train assembly inside my 5014. Also, do you have a spare set of triplex traction-tire drivers, or know of anyone who might? I have the traction tires, but need the drive-wheel set to put them on. Thanks again.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  Рік тому +1

      This model is NOT MTH. Read description. MTH definitely copied features of this HO model made in 1986. Even with traction tires, if the case, MTH Triplex only can pull half as much this model.

  • @truebras
    @truebras  12 років тому

    Thanks it is hard to find proper era freight cars in HO. Good point. They were not that common during the time that the Triplexes operated 1916-1928. All steel boxcars become the standard in the early 30's The Triplex also had higher traction effort than a Big Boy, thus causing couplers and car beaks in experiments with long freight trains. This and other reasons relegated the Triplex as coal drag pusher locomotives.

  • @truebras
    @truebras  11 років тому

    Hi,
    Thanks,
    Try to program with those tips and you will see that your big boy sounds more realistic. Good luck!

  • @NeonTube
    @NeonTube 7 років тому +2

    I like the way that it's pulling and train that in scale is well over half a mile long and it doesn't even feel it. Which leads me to ask just how much can the triplex pull?

    • @gettonmoreorless3741
      @gettonmoreorless3741 6 років тому +3

      Neon Tube never really tested the couplers at the time could not withstand its pulling power so it was relegated to pushing

    • @paulmonroe4101
      @paulmonroe4101 6 років тому

      The actual triplex steam locomotive couldn’t really pull trains at all. Their pulling power was just to big even for the engine itself so the triplex was very hindered in its uses so it was resulted to be used as a back engine or to push its trains instead of pulling them.

  • @astridvallati4762
    @astridvallati4762 3 роки тому

    Prototypically, the number of Wooden Frame cars would have to be less than a consist of steel frames cars, because of coupler load differences. So a train of mixed wood and steel frames would have to run at wood frame loads, or risk a train break ( ripped out headstock or coupler box).
    The MTH video shows 2 Triplex heading, and 1 Triplex Banking or Pusher engine. More realistic.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  3 роки тому +2

      I am not trying to make a prototypical train at all.
      First, Triplex were used as pusher helpers of coal drag trains almost exclusively.
      Second, I am not a rivet counter of steel x wood frame cars. I just aiming to have a consist that reflects the era that the prototype locomotives were in operation. Point that I would say accomplished by far as I see what channels showing freight material pulled by HO Triplex models.
      Regarding having 3 Triplexes as train consist and you think is more plausible, it is a “ no vale, amiga”.
      Erie Triplex had a severe problem of running out of steam because of design of undersized firebox boiler. So, Triplexes had to be stopped to to wait the boiler to produce enough steam to be able to feed steam cylinders over and over. Can you image have a consist with 3X the same problem?
      Prototypically, a couple of R1 locomotives pulling and a Triplex pushing would be a plausible scenario, but never all the 3 Triplexes that Erie owned in the same consist.
      If someone made a video with 3 HO Triplex is likely because one had to spend a lot more money to pull 60(?) cars.
      The MTH HO Triplex cannot pull too many cars. It has only the 1st and 2nd engine powered the 3rd one is dummy, because most of the terrible electronics are there.
      On the layout that I run, this Triplex, the MTH model cannot pull more than 20 cars on 2.5 % grade. So, that is the most likely reason why according your description of someone else video had to waste money buying another 2 Triplexes.
      Unlike the HO Triplex, this model of mid 1980’s has 3 large can motors. Each one powers each engine. So this model was tested pulling 70+ cars on 2.5% grades.
      The MTH HO Triplex may have the looks, but its performance is disappointing.

  • @jmckelvey140
    @jmckelvey140 11 років тому +2

    And I thought the big boy was long!

  • @pilsudski36
    @pilsudski36 8 років тому

    Great WWI era freight cars.

  • @jacobwoods8738
    @jacobwoods8738 10 років тому

    I notice you picture is that of the VFCO or EFOM 2ft 6 in Brazil, do you like those little Baldwins too. I love them and besides the On30 4-4-0 haven't found any others.

  • @Crookedriverandeasternrr
    @Crookedriverandeasternrr 6 років тому +1

    Amazing loco! Awesome train and layout ! I liked and subbed to your channel 👍

  • @truebras
    @truebras  12 років тому

    Yes, I saw it. And looks that the guy that did it was having a blast. Too bad that MTH has yet to offer the Angus 0-8-8-0 camelback in HO. I don't think that I can score one in brass, so, it will be quite welcome to see one by MTH. Let's cross fingers.

  • @oriontheraptor8119
    @oriontheraptor8119 6 років тому

    It looks like a centipede with the three sets of driving gear

  • @truebras
    @truebras  12 років тому

    Thanks,! I will post some french trains soon ;-) .

  • @alejandrocordoves5709
    @alejandrocordoves5709 2 роки тому

    Majestuosas y bella

  • @newriverproductions12
    @newriverproductions12 6 років тому +1

    Is this MTH with a Bachmann sound decoder?

  • @ShelbyBanditNFS
    @ShelbyBanditNFS 11 років тому

    Oh man that what I want! a MTH Erie.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  11 років тому +1

      This not a MTH! But a Key made in 1986 which MTH unceremoniously copied many mechanical features. Unfortunately, they didn't copied what matters: All powered drivers. Out of 48 driving wheels, only 36 are powered in the MTH. In this same layout the MTH, can only pull less than 35 cars on the flat and less than 25 on the 2% grade.

    • @ShelbyBanditNFS
      @ShelbyBanditNFS 11 років тому

      truebras Ahh okay. I thought it was. Thanks for the information. :)

  • @BastiaanBlinksma
    @BastiaanBlinksma 11 років тому

    Thanx, The Big Boy has an ESU decoder in it already, but how to make the adjustments , I don't know yet,...
    How did you adjust the 3 can motors to ru equal?

  • @JCmilwaukee
    @JCmilwaukee 11 місяців тому

    Is the flickering firebox on the base model?

  • @KandiKlover
    @KandiKlover 7 років тому

    I'm so moist for that locomotive.

  • @billy007191
    @billy007191 12 років тому

    Sweet! Make some more vids please!

  • @bigfourroad
    @bigfourroad 11 років тому

    Have you measured the amps that the loco is pulling by any chance? I have a 2-8-8-4 in S scale with a huge Pittman motor and I have the feeling the Loksound Select will tolerate it.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  11 років тому

      Hello, Most of HO sound decoders have a nominal ( continuous) output of 1-1.25 amps. But as you might know, there are many factors that affect the rating: type (and numbers) of motor, load being pulled, grade, efficiency, etc. I actually had a Tsunami installed before in this locomotive and just didn't work. The tsunami overheated and shut itself off going up on the grade. I would guess that with a loksound you likely have better chances of success.

  • @ebtmikado
    @ebtmikado 5 років тому

    Fantastic!

  • @edgartaylor7421
    @edgartaylor7421 8 років тому

    Are all the drive wheels on the Triplex powered?

  • @tony1961chl
    @tony1961chl 8 років тому +1

    Ésto es una preciosidad ,gracias.

  • @NickRatnieks
    @NickRatnieks 8 років тому

    All you need is Soupbone Pew himself! Perhaps, he's in the caboose?

    • @NeonTube
      @NeonTube 7 років тому

      NickRatnieks or cab

  • @jordansfrye
    @jordansfrye 10 років тому

    nice video

  • @svbedekar
    @svbedekar 8 років тому

    Nice video ....For activating sound of engine which controller been used ?

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      Either a Digitrax system or BLI fake function box with regular transformer. This layout didn't have real DCC capabilities.

  • @truebras
    @truebras  11 років тому

    Go to ESU site. Go to Support and download the Loksound version: 3 or 4 or 4 select. Read the content for how to synchronize wheel revolution to chuff sound. It must be 4 chuffs for full revolution. Find CV and play with V value until you match revolution x chuffs. Next set up off sync for articulate sound. Look the CV and V. Have you ever program DCC other than address, acceleration, braking and Vmax?

  • @ironmatic1
    @ironmatic1 8 років тому

    What's the tune at the beginning?

  • @andrewboyd8073
    @andrewboyd8073 8 років тому

    What's the music at the beginning?

  • @truebras
    @truebras  11 років тому

    CONTINUING FROM ANSWER BELOW: The Tsunami cannot be adjusted to run 3 motors The BEFM part is crappy. I don't recommend to use it for large articulated engines because it will likely overheat going uphill. After few months trying to adjust the Tsunami, I removed it from the locomotive and installed a ESU LOKSOUND 4 Select. Out of box it ran really well. It was able to manage to smoothly run the 3 motor of this Triplex and never shut itself from overheating. Loksound 4 is the way to go!

  • @truebras
    @truebras  11 років тому

    There in no way that ONE decoder can control individually EACH of 3 motors in the Erie Triplex. If you go back in my video list, you will find another video of the Erie Triplex. At that time, I installed a Soundtraxx Tsunami for heavy and articulated locomotive. The Triplex ran okay in the flat, but the drive part of Tsunami decoder is really crappy when this locomotive was going uphill in 2.5%grade. It abruptly accelerated and braked until it shut itself of for overheating.I could never fix it.

  • @mikepericolosi9386
    @mikepericolosi9386 8 років тому

    This you layout?

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      +Mike Pericolosi
      No at Randall Museum in San Francisco and in danger or being wiped out/dismantled by the SF park & recreation.

  • @raptorproductions1639
    @raptorproductions1639 6 років тому

    the second pair of drivers are wheel slipping through out most of the vid

    • @Caenen_LeagueTechnical
      @Caenen_LeagueTechnical 6 років тому +1

      Just like the real thing would've done, with that load, at least I guess it'd have. Articulated steam locomotives aren't exactly good at not having one set of drivers slip every now and then, since the weight is distributed across both.

  • @keithherndier
    @keithherndier 8 років тому

    What brand is this puppy?

    • @keithherndier
      @keithherndier 8 років тому

      Also, I've never understood why freight and passenger cars have different trucks/bogeys, could someone explain that?

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      Key Imports, not MTH.

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      Load capacity X comfort and lower noise.

    • @keithherndier
      @keithherndier 8 років тому

      +truebras thanks!

    • @truebras
      @truebras  8 років тому

      Key models with custom installed sound decoder & lighting.

  • @magnetic_dreamsZ
    @magnetic_dreamsZ 7 років тому +2

    The entire concept behind this locomotive seems excessive, but whatever. Still cool.

    • @paulmonroe4101
      @paulmonroe4101 6 років тому

      sHertz The concept of the triplex is a bit much but on paper and at the time they were being built the engine seemed like they would be the monster of all railways. However the triplex had many different disadvantages. The engine had 160,000 LBS of tractive effort which was a decent amount but its pulling power is a different story. The triplex had tons and tons of pulling power because of its three sets of drivers but the problem was because of how big the engine was it could not keep steam for very long and with its pulling power it couldn’t go for very long so the engine was resorted to being a back engine to heavy trains and to push its own heavy trains. The engine is very excessive but at the time the locomotive was a good idea until they realized just how much of a problem the build up for steam was for the triplex.

  • @truebras
    @truebras  12 років тому

    Check some brazilian 16 wheeled diesels that I modeled and filmed. Then, some french 1930's & 1950's material is coming. Subscribe me and you will get my updates.

  • @MarkInLA
    @MarkInLA 4 роки тому

    All A1 excellent !!.. But take off slower..Creep longer taking up coupler slack and getting over inertia of heavy train .....

    • @truebras
      @truebras  4 роки тому

      The Triplex has a Loksound Select when this video was shot. And because the triplex has 3 can motors the drive algorithm does not handle well. So, it was nearly impossible to set a very low Vstart. Now it has a loksound V5 and it is a different story.

  • @philipasanchez5445
    @philipasanchez5445 5 років тому

    What A Fantastic Layout you're Club? has../. As a Suggestion for you're next video with the Triplex. A whole lot less with the bell and more whistle blowing at the grade crossing's and more mountain watching. Towards the end you weren't showing enough of that beautiful scenery going through the mountains ...Hope to see more next time. "Thank you" for sharing . PANDERWY1

  • @logansmith4672
    @logansmith4672 10 років тому

    Anyone else c the hobo in the 2nd box car

  •  9 років тому

    very nice, like and subscribe

  • @truebras
    @truebras  11 років тому +1

    Bastiaan Blinksma
    The Bachmann decoders without sound are really bad. You can't nicely adjust acceleration/braking in some motors and does not have BEFM. Don't ever buy them. Get ESU Lokpilot or Zimo. If in US, get NCE or Digitrax or Lokpilot.

    • @BastiaanBlinksma
      @BastiaanBlinksma 11 років тому

      OK, thank you, you are very helpfull and give me a good ide a what to do and what not, thankx again

  • @jamesfitch6431
    @jamesfitch6431 2 роки тому

    You ring the bell way to long

  • @truebras
    @truebras  12 років тому +2

    Thanks it is hard to find proper era freight cars in HO. Good point. They were not that common during the time that the Triplexes operated 1916-1928. All steel boxcars become the standard in the early 30's The Triplex also had higher traction effort than a Big Boy, thus causing couplers and car beaks in experiments with long freight trains. This and other reasons relegated the Triplex as coal drag pusher locomotives.

  • @jmckelvey140
    @jmckelvey140 11 років тому +1

    And I thought the big boy was long!