I looking for a solution like this since months! Thanks! But my main reason for the starlink mini is the low power consumption and our "-small- mobile serverroom" could have a heat-problem. I am a little bit afraid, that this 200w-thing is not build for such a environment or?
Voltage converters like this will only consume what is used, not what its maximum rating. Power does not just get "consumed" because you have a device capable of providing more output, that's now how electricity works. You will only consume the amount of power the Starlink uses and having an overbuilt device means less heat, more efficient operations and the ability to upgrade to a Starlink fulls size without having to re-buy another kit. Thanks for the great question!
@@samuelfox8126 yes but with the mini your talking maybe 1-2 watts max, probably less. The unit sits at around 18-25w typically when in use and i'd say your looking at about 5-10% overhead at an absolute max. The same would be the case if you used the included AC to DC wall charger and the only other option is to just run the dish from the batteries but I've found the dish doesn't work well at 12v especially if you are using a longer cable as things like the vehicle starting or sudden voltage drops can cause the dish to reboot. Thats why we went with a 48v solution here.
@@MobileMustHave it's interesting how you're selling how robust this unit is in the video and here you're talking about how little power you actually need. I quick search shows poe's for $70. If you're talking 24w and those have a 150w ceiling and you're has 300w both are going to last a LONG time. And since the price of ALL kits for the v2 has plummeted that tells me the high price was just because they could because no one knew better. In capitalism, your margin is my opportunity. When there's lots of competition that means the margins are FAT. When most have gone out of business the margins are where they should be. That's the free market. Just like Nvidia's margins will significantly drop soon enough, so will the most expensive of any industry.
@@samuelfox8126 You certainly can pickup a lower cost poe kit for the mini, that's one of the benefits of something that will run on anything from 12-48v dc. I see kits that have a similar dongle and then bundle a passive poe injector that will work. We tested a lot of them and mainly the o ring seals and component seals were the weak link. These lower cost kits are not all bad, we found a few good ones. They typically do not have voltage converters so you either run it on 12v or you can buy a separate step up converter on top of the kit cost. Probably 100 bucks after all said and done? You'll have multiple pieces in your setup to wire up, you'll loose the USB output to power a router with the kit (not a huge deal) and probably the biggest thing is you'll loose the future proofing to use the dc kit interchangeably with full size Gen 3 dish or mini dish but it is certainly an option for sure. There are a lot of ways to get to the finish line in this race, we tend to focus on what we find is the cleanest and most future proof, not necessarily the cheapest. We also have to make a profit and cover our costs of R&D etc. We don't pretend that's not a factor. Thanks for the feedback and comments.
So, the USB-A Port is used with the optional "USB-A to 4-PIN Peplink Power Cable" that can allow you to power your Peplink via the USB-A port. That way you don't need a separate run to power your Peplink! If you have any other questions, reach out to us via email at info@mobilemusthave.com and we'll be happy to help!
The reason is simple, if your selling millions all over the work, keep the power separate since since most don’t have a POE source. The difference between a billionaire and a UA-camr.
in video you say "POE injector" input comes from Starlink device WAN. Did you mean to say Peplink WAN? Input from Peplink then output to Starlink dish.
So, the Starlink Dish is connected to the PoE port on the PoE injector via a standard cat 6 ethernet cable which connects to the Starlink Mini conversion cable creating a water tight fit. Then, you run an ethernet patch cable from the LAN port on the PoE Injector to the WAN port on the Peplink router. If you have any other questions, reach out to us via email at info@mobilemusthave.com and we'll be happy to help!
@@timothyauen155 our team previously said the cable to the dish is included. All adapters to create a water tight seal are included but a standard ethernet cable is needed to the dish which many customers have already in various lengths which is why its not included and optional at checkout. Apologies for my teams incorrect information.
we sell those as well but for $29 and in stock mobilemusthave.com/products/starlink-mini-10-meter-water-resistant-usb-c-power-cable-for-battery-or-portable-operation - That said you will not be able to use ethernet to uplink the device to a Peplink router to do WAN bonding and other advanced features. This is more designed for a fixed mount installation. For portable use check out our 3 in 1 portable cable which is the best for portable use allowing battery use, USB-C use, stock charger use, cig lighter use and more found here!mobilemusthave.com/products/starlink-mini-3-in-1-water-resistant-power-cable-for-ultimate-portability-10-meter?_pos=1&_sid=c9f466ef6&_ss=r
anything stepping up voltage from 12v to 48v and doing so with up to 200w will create heat. That said, the mini only pulls about 30w so you barely notice any heat at all because of the overbuilt nature of this unit and you can then swap out your dish for a full size starlink using the same kit and wiring for future proofing.
All depends on what your goals are and what you are looking for. Starlink did not make this easy as they are still learning what their customers are looking for and testing the market themselves.
Are those magnets on the white box? I assume that is a mount, if so it doesn't look like it will mount flush on the roof of an RV unless you drill a hole in the roof. So this lets you use an inside router for better performance?
@@JimEdds yes, our Trio SpeedMount for the Mini has a magnet or suction mount option and doubles a a great protective case for the Starlink Mini mobilemusthave.com/products/trio-speedmount-for-starlink-mini
Peplink is not a Chinese router, they are manufactured in Taiwan just like Cisco and most other routers allowed for the USA market for higher security applications. They are FIPS compliant, a requirement for them to be used by the US government, a standard developed here in the USA by NIST. The company is a Hong Kong company with their CEO living in Japan, US operations are a blend of Toronto Canada and Minnesota and we communicate closely with Peplink on security related concerns for our clients. None of their core stack is made or vulnerable to Chinese influence, a big reason why the US is so keen to keep Taiwan friendly with the west, to protect all tech companies not just Peplink. Fist compiance information: www.peplink.com/support/compliance/
game changer. thank you !
I looking for a solution like this since months! Thanks! But my main reason for the starlink mini is the low power consumption and our "-small- mobile serverroom" could have a heat-problem. I am a little bit afraid, that this 200w-thing is not build for such a environment or?
Voltage converters like this will only consume what is used, not what its maximum rating. Power does not just get "consumed" because you have a device capable of providing more output, that's now how electricity works. You will only consume the amount of power the Starlink uses and having an overbuilt device means less heat, more efficient operations and the ability to upgrade to a Starlink fulls size without having to re-buy another kit. Thanks for the great question!
Plus idle consumption plus conversion loss. That's where the heat comes from.
@@samuelfox8126 yes but with the mini your talking maybe 1-2 watts max, probably less. The unit sits at around 18-25w typically when in use and i'd say your looking at about 5-10% overhead at an absolute max. The same would be the case if you used the included AC to DC wall charger and the only other option is to just run the dish from the batteries but I've found the dish doesn't work well at 12v especially if you are using a longer cable as things like the vehicle starting or sudden voltage drops can cause the dish to reboot. Thats why we went with a 48v solution here.
@@MobileMustHave it's interesting how you're selling how robust this unit is in the video and here you're talking about how little power you actually need. I quick search shows poe's for $70. If you're talking 24w and those have a 150w ceiling and you're has 300w both are going to last a LONG time.
And since the price of ALL kits for the v2 has plummeted that tells me the high price was just because they could because no one knew better.
In capitalism, your margin is my opportunity. When there's lots of competition that means the margins are FAT. When most have gone out of business the margins are where they should be. That's the free market.
Just like Nvidia's margins will significantly drop soon enough, so will the most expensive of any industry.
@@samuelfox8126 You certainly can pickup a lower cost poe kit for the mini, that's one of the benefits of something that will run on anything from 12-48v dc. I see kits that have a similar dongle and then bundle a passive poe injector that will work. We tested a lot of them and mainly the o ring seals and component seals were the weak link. These lower cost kits are not all bad, we found a few good ones. They typically do not have voltage converters so you either run it on 12v or you can buy a separate step up converter on top of the kit cost. Probably 100 bucks after all said and done? You'll have multiple pieces in your setup to wire up, you'll loose the USB output to power a router with the kit (not a huge deal) and probably the biggest thing is you'll loose the future proofing to use the dc kit interchangeably with full size Gen 3 dish or mini dish but it is certainly an option for sure. There are a lot of ways to get to the finish line in this race, we tend to focus on what we find is the cleanest and most future proof, not necessarily the cheapest. We also have to make a profit and cover our costs of R&D etc. We don't pretend that's not a factor. Thanks for the feedback and comments.
I was okay with the 48V barrel but a 12V USB-A port? Why?
So, the USB-A Port is used with the optional "USB-A to 4-PIN Peplink Power Cable" that can allow you to power your Peplink via the USB-A port. That way you don't need a separate run to power your Peplink! If you have any other questions, reach out to us via email at info@mobilemusthave.com and we'll be happy to help!
Additionally, the 5V USB-C port can be used to charge USB devices like phones if appropriate and also power some routers that run on 5 volts DC.
The reason is simple, if your selling millions all over the work, keep the power separate since since most don’t have a POE source. The difference between a billionaire and a UA-camr.
in video you say "POE injector" input comes from Starlink device WAN. Did you mean to say Peplink WAN? Input from Peplink then output to Starlink dish.
So, the Starlink Dish is connected to the PoE port on the PoE injector via a standard cat 6 ethernet cable which connects to the Starlink Mini conversion cable creating a water tight fit. Then, you run an ethernet patch cable from the LAN port on the PoE Injector to the WAN port on the Peplink router. If you have any other questions, reach out to us via email at info@mobilemusthave.com and we'll be happy to help!
@@timothyauen155 our team previously said the cable to the dish is included. All adapters to create a water tight seal are included but a standard ethernet cable is needed to the dish which many customers have already in various lengths which is why its not included and optional at checkout. Apologies for my teams incorrect information.
Why not buy the Starlink USB C cable for $39?
we sell those as well but for $29 and in stock mobilemusthave.com/products/starlink-mini-10-meter-water-resistant-usb-c-power-cable-for-battery-or-portable-operation - That said you will not be able to use ethernet to uplink the device to a Peplink router to do WAN bonding and other advanced features. This is more designed for a fixed mount installation. For portable use check out our 3 in 1 portable cable which is the best for portable use allowing battery use, USB-C use, stock charger use, cig lighter use and more found here!mobilemusthave.com/products/starlink-mini-3-in-1-water-resistant-power-cable-for-ultimate-portability-10-meter?_pos=1&_sid=c9f466ef6&_ss=r
If your poe is creating lots of heat it's not efficient.
anything stepping up voltage from 12v to 48v and doing so with up to 200w will create heat. That said, the mini only pulls about 30w so you barely notice any heat at all because of the overbuilt nature of this unit and you can then swap out your dish for a full size starlink using the same kit and wiring for future proofing.
Well spoken esoterically but for the uninitiated and those newly interested in Starlink somewhat confusing and off putting !
All depends on what your goals are and what you are looking for. Starlink did not make this easy as they are still learning what their customers are looking for and testing the market themselves.
Are those magnets on the white box? I assume that is a mount, if so it doesn't look like it will mount flush on the roof of an RV unless you drill a hole in the roof. So this lets you use an inside router for better performance?
@@JimEdds yes, our Trio SpeedMount for the Mini has a magnet or suction mount option and doubles a a great protective case for the Starlink Mini mobilemusthave.com/products/trio-speedmount-for-starlink-mini
Because peplink is a Chinese router, you are recommending your customers create backdoor vulnerabilities in their networks - why would you do that?
Peplink is not a Chinese router, they are manufactured in Taiwan just like Cisco and most other routers allowed for the USA market for higher security applications. They are FIPS compliant, a requirement for them to be used by the US government, a standard developed here in the USA by NIST. The company is a Hong Kong company with their CEO living in Japan, US operations are a blend of Toronto Canada and Minnesota and we communicate closely with Peplink on security related concerns for our clients. None of their core stack is made or vulnerable to Chinese influence, a big reason why the US is so keen to keep Taiwan friendly with the west, to protect all tech companies not just Peplink. Fist compiance information: www.peplink.com/support/compliance/