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I love the experience on Master Modes. You have to fly in a squadron if you use fighters and go up against the most difficult bounties. It's -now- not intended for everyone to just buy large ships and solo fly them into battles and effectively dogfight with fighters. They are gunships, they need a crew to reach their potential. ALL large gunships with a crew absolutely dominate in Master Modes.
That’s bs and you know it I have been soloing ert’s with the Connie and Corsair stop the cap
@@marcuswynn89 Be more specific. What is bs? Who told you that you can't solo with the Connie or Corsair?
@tj7094 you said the new model doesn’t mean you go buy a large ship and start soloing missions I said that’s bs because you can do that with the Connie and the Corsair. Not only that it can be done without much difficulty. So the fact that the A2 struggles when it was the best at is complete bs
@@marcuswynn89 well the Connie and Corsair weren’t the whole topic of your vid. It was the A2 and its 750 price tag. Currently those 2 are fine solo compared to the A2 and hammerhead. Personally I don’t look at them as strictly gunships as one is medium freight/gunship and the other is an explorer. The A2 and Hammerhead are multi crew gunships at their core with the A2 being a bomber/gunship. Throw in the redeemer as well. Those ships when fully crewed dominate. There’s no bs about it, A2 can outperform either of those ships when fully manned. It passes your math of more shields and dps so you should already know this. No where does a solo gunship get to completely overwhelm all opposition just because it has a high price tag. If you think this is bad now, just wait till your fuses pop with engineering while solo. Solo pilots aren’t meant to fly large multi crew gunships as if they were a fighter. I’m stating the obvious here. Just to clarify. The mk 2 hornet is great at 1 on 1 with most things. Throw in a hammerhead crewed or a A2 crewed and it becomes more challenging. Skill can prevail, as the hornet doesn’t win the shield or dps fight vs those ships but you can win the fight. You yourself won against all odds under crewed. Did you want the game to be solo friendly on large ships?
@@tj7094 Lore-wise Crusader Industries is known for their thrusters and maneuverability and the Hercules at its current state doesn't add up to the lore. Another thing I'd like to point out is that a Bomber/Freighter should be tanky and for CIG to nerf the shields and Hull of the Hercules shows that they let the pressure of criticism get to them. The Hercules was fine as it was because they were effective at what they were made for and for them to strip it to something anyone can take one easily is just sad.
Imagine taking a huge heavy bomberinto a dogfight and then complaining you cant dogfight in it. That thing has multiple turrets you have nobody in them. What a clown video.
Go read the lore about crusader ships the come back and apologize for your moronic comment
@@marcuswynn89 Damn you salty 🤣🤣 He's right bro no one dogfights with this ship and no one blindly buys it to dogfight either
@VlLEconsumer I didn’t buy it with money shit for brains, maybe try removing the earwax from your ears. By your own moronic logic the Connie and Corsair shouldn’t be able to do what they do either
@@marcuswynn89cold take, you took a boat to chase birds.
@@marcuswynn89 Nice 3rd grade level insults 😂😂 you tried your best buddy
Dude, this is no dogfighter. What are you even talking about. :D This is how a ship liek that should behave at the very least.
It’s literally slower than a 747 airliner in master modes
@@marcuswynn89 the Hercules weighs 3,139,240 kg. The 747-400F has a maximum takeoff weight of 397,000 kg and a maximum payload of 124,000 kg. The 747's maximum landing weight is approximately 306,180 kg. Just imagine how cargo weight will affect these ships in the future when weight matters for cargo as well. Hercules is many times heavier than your comparison.
I agree with you, Master Modes is horrible. Ships move so slowly, so all fights are just turning battles where the highest dps wins. And every ship that I fly in combat feels so damn similar, with the exception of the weapon loadout, due to the slow speeds. I also hate how my shields get depleted in just seconds, I end up having to constantly change into nav mode and fly away to recharge them, even though I'm in a ship that used to have adequate shielding. It's just NOT FUN.
It’s terrible just imagine how slow capital ships will be
I absolutely love Master Modes. It's made combat much more enjoyable. Large ships should never out maneuver fighters, I'd always expect a large ship to struggle getting on target with fighters and no gunners. Gunners change everything about large ships and they are so devastating. A2 solo is dead, which is how it should be. A2 with a crew is deadly.
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Didn`t CIG tell all backers that Large ships are for Crews only? You can solo a big ship but do not expect to have nearly the same success without a crew.
Considering the fight, the A2 actually did pretty decent, I doubt you would survive with a smaller ship, the AI is too brutal, they will glue on you and never let it go, never missing a shot, and you can`t get away from it since your speed is limited to a point that every ship can get up to that speed quickly (200ms).
This patch IMO was a slap in the face of everyone who bought larger ships, glad the only "big" ship I got is a Vulture.
The herc is literally slower than a modern airliner in master modes and turns worse than one, are we in the future or not because this doesn’t make any sense. And other large ships like the Connie and Corsair can solo just fine
Good catch, Marcus. Hopefully, the ship roles get balanced properly so the ships can do their job.
Based on the other comments they’d have you think I’m crazy
Despite the enemies being a bit overtuned rn, I don't understand your complaints here.
Firstly, you're saying $750 or 44mil should just let you solo-breeze through an ERT which are clearly group missions now, as they should have been from the start. They're the hardest missions! That's asking for pay-to-win to be the conversation more than it already is.
Second: try it again fully manned and with maybe with another ship to kite some enemies away from you.
Third, you survived and completed the mission solo with only 2 guns...?
Fourth, it's a bomber, especially solo. It's a gunship when it's fully crewed. ERTs are not what this thing is built for when solo. Pop your target with a torpedo or separate the enemies with an Ares or Corsair so you're not swarmed for so long.
I always saw the A2 as a PVP/Org-focused ship until bombing missions are more prevalent for PVE use.
There are missions you can use bombs to complete. The destroy fuel tanks missions at DCs and in Pyro. Theres also the clear criminal nest missions.
The game is definitely getting harder and we're all gonna have to be more strategic and choose how we tackle things and what to tackle them with. Solo A2 for ERT is not on that list anymore and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I don't think anything i said will change your mind but someone has to say it. I like your streams and content, man. Idk if UA-cam crushed your soul or if you really are angry at CIG but i hope i can watch you fall back in love with the project(s) one day.
Combat is so much better now. You can't go into fights outnumbered and expect it to be easy. Large ships NEED a crew, should be this way anyways. They are deadly with a crew and fighters should never be easy for a solo pilot in a large ship to "dogfight".
100%
A solo A2 is wrong but somehow a solo Connie or Corsair is correct? I don’t follow your logic, the a2 is tuned horribly, in no sense are you getting the value that you put into it. It used to best value for your money because you could touch multiple play loops with one ship. I don’t understand your UA-cam comments was that a personal dig at my situation if so that’s low, at the end of the day like everyone else who plays star citizen I’m a paying customer and I’m not the only one with the opinions I have. Master modes is complete shit. The sooner everyone realizes this the faster we can move on to something better.
Face tanking and circling in a dps race isn’t dog fighting there is no skill involved if you have more shields + weapons = victory. How is that better?
@@marcuswynn89 Solo in a multicrew ship is wrong in the sense that you do not reach the potential of the ship. This would be like me saying any ship that doesn't have pilot weapons is useless because I played with it solo. The A2 is a gunship, it needs crew to be effective as a gunship. If I was taking a personal dig at your situation I would've made a comment about how you fought your battle and the tactics used ect ect. Master Modes is shit for large ships solo but it's great with a crew. The other comment, if face tanking and circling is how you fight then that's how you fight. If I can outmaneuver a ship in a smaller ship and flank it's weapon arcs and take advantage of blind spots.. which I do when using a fighter, I win. The way you describe the dps race isn't a skill thing and if that's the way you fight you just gotta get what suits you to achieve that goal. I still stand by the crew being a game changer to any fight you get into. Don't take everything you read personal, I like Master Modes and it has absolutely made the game much more fun for me and my friends. We all play in a group setting most of the time.
thanks for the demo. been away for my usual few month breaks, coming back curious about master modes and the ships I used to use, especially the bigger ships.
Don’t get caught in a herc it won’t matter if you have gunners the ship turns too slow you will be food for corsairs and Connie’s
@@marcuswynn89 the herc I have is an M2 loaner from the liberator. It was probably my favorite ship 3.21-.22 and it is sad how shit it is now. Just glad I didn't pledge for any of the Hercules.
@pugjob4612 I recommend that anyone that has one to melt it, it’s the best thing you can do with it
100% correct. the A2 costs $750 so i should be able to use it solo and complete any bounties i want! I mean come on!? I paid CIG nearly a grand. I'm entitled to win the game. What a joke. Devs are absolutely clueless.
u trollin?
@jimcassata1670 he sucks at trolling
@@marcuswynn89 nah, dude. i totally agree with you. anything above 600 bucks should be best in class at every role. Ideally even as solo. thats what'll make SC fun, right? solo a2 should at minimum take out 6 buccaneers at once. It's nearly cash equivalent
@gloomy202 you suck at life and are a terrible troll
@@Eli_qtSo you should be able to solo and dogfight with a Javelin?
I thought it was just me, but the M2 I was piloting yesterday and did a bounty against a reclaimer I was having a hard time out maneuvering that ship , it took forever to turn
I was totally hammered yesterday in my shiny new F7A by a Reliant. Master Modes in its current implementation is most likely the single worst thing happened in the 5 years to SC since I started playing. I don't know what happened at CIG they are not seeing this? My theory is they have a working flight model that is working fine on single player in SQ42 and they implementing the same model in the PU, discarding the effects of networking latency, or server response times on flight combat, otherwise I don't understand why they are persuading this.
My theory is they need us to test master modes for squadron 42 because not all ironed out like they claim they aren’t polishing the game like they claim to be.
@@marcuswynn89 That would make an awfull lot of sense then.
Imagine buying a train locomotive, then complaining about the off-road performance.
That’s the worst analogy I’ve ever heard in my life you should be ashamed
@@marcuswynn89 You brought a massive heavy-bomber / transport ship then complained it isn't very good in a dogfight. You don't see many B-52s taking down F-16s. The analogy is apt.
@PaleandPastey this is not a b52 you can’t even drop these bombs at high altitudes and have them be accurate. The herc is now slower than a modern airliner also turns slower than one. By your same idiot logic the Corsair and the Connie shouldn’t be able to what they do as well
I just spent the last two hours flying the Mk2. I can barely get my target before I'm hammered. Not fun
Are you still on I can hop in the discord and give you some tips on how to use it
2 small ships in atmo are so difficult. Ugh
The problem with the ai is their weapons don’t overheat, infinite ballistics, and no weapon recharge. So it’s difficult to deal with them
MM is the first thing that truly has but me off from wanting to support the project. Everything CIG is starting to implement seems like a spit in the face of the kickstarter vision.
MM does not seem like a solution for a hardcore game where there is danger everywhere. It feels like a solution made for console so ship flight can be done well with a controller.
It feels like we are playing starfield
Bruh, you're trying to dogfight with a C5 Galaxy... In space... While solo... Just wait till they add engineering gameplay you're going to really have a bad time.
That goes for anyone using a big ship just not the herc, the Connie and Corsair will suffer all the same
@@marcuswynn89 I know. That's the game I signed up for.
@@marcuswynn89 engineering gameplay will force Connie and Corsair plays to team up and get a crew as well
@TheCrash1983 yeah we don’t have engineering right now
The A2 always felt overpowered for what it was supposed to be- a bomber. It was insanely maneuverable for its size and a better gunship than a hammerhead. It should never have been that good to begin with, and it shouldn't have cost $750 USD either. That being said, maybe they overtuned it. Can't say, since everything is getting wrecked in the verse in 3.23 right now. Imagine if the A2 gets even more fragile when they add the engineering changes to the game. Oof.
The a2 was never over powered the Connie was always faster in a straight line the A2 had the maneuverability because you are dropping moabs so you kind of need it the a2 is literally slower than an airline jet now and turns worse that one
A2 has how many turrets?
Doesn’t matter if the ship can’t maneuver to targets
@@marcuswynn89 It is a bomber...
@ThomasD66 retaliator is a bomber it flies better than the a2 currently
@@marcuswynn89 Ok, not sure why that is a problem?
You must be retarded then
Kinda the same for all ships my f8 can't handle it's self
Backstrafe with boost to keep your nose on target try to keep all hostiles in front of you
Marcus, should u really complain after all this time. I get that most dont like the way ships fly now but you complaining about a multi crew sucking whilst not having a full crew seems silly. And anyone that spends that much on a ship deserve whatever pain cig inflicts on u. Ship pricing is as dumb as the nft market, and participants just as dumb
i didn't pay 750 for the ship if i didnt already have i wouldn't grind 44 mil auec for it either. it simply isn't worth it
attritions do more dps but get fewer shots now
they have very high alpha
I agree 100%.
I was starting to think I was crazy
@@marcuswynn89 Master Modes is one thing to deal with, byt also the increased ship prices and performance nerfs provide an extra kick to the nuts...😁
@mcaddc a kick in the nuts and a poke in the eyes
@@marcuswynn89 your not crazy, but the end product of this game will force solo players into smaller ships, AI crew and gunners may help a bit but there will be no one ship to rule them all, it will be more like eve online and less like elite dangerous.
maybe focus more on what ship is right for what you are doing and just have fun the days of millions of credits without having to split it with crew or paying AI crew will be gone soon.
this will make the money you make more valuable and help with the longevity of the game.
not saying this to have a pop at you, or upset you.
@TheCrash1983 I’ve already said multiple times that with engineering coming online that I won’t fly big ships solo the biggest ship I will probably own is the Perseus because it can be ran with a small crew. But my daily will be the Zeus MK II MR when it comes out
Sorry for your loss…
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Master modes is trash. CIG can try and sell it until the end of time.
Yogi's vision is bad and they are so deep into this model that it will take years to revert.
Utter trash
Actually it wouldn’t they could flip a few switches and delete a few lines of code then all of a sudden you have the old model back
@@marcuswynn89 I hope so, I just don't have faith in anyone at CIG these days
I understand your sentiment I think anyone saying master modes is good is just coping and or white knighting for CIG
This might be the dumbest take I have ever seen. You take a heavy bomber into a dogfight and complain. Then you say it's too slow to get away from its own bombs which makes absolutely no sense at all. You can drop the bomb from a distance that won't blow up your ship. This is a clown video.
You sound retarded, because people are taking Connie and Corsairs into dog fights they are actually the meta ships for ERT’s. This proves the lack of ability for people to actually think you must be really slow. Pilots that use C2’s to run cargo literally have no chance to defend themselves from any other ship, because it can be out turned by everything in its class. Now go find something productive to do