@@sho95100You are welcome. Yes it will. I have a whole playlist of videos on the magnum x5 if you are interested in more info on setting up or cleaning etc.
I got to digging and down the cylinder built into the wall i found the reason for paint eventually leaking. My piston was perfect and not scored at all. There is a black plastic seal on top of a rubber o ring. Once these start to degrade paint will leak beyond the piston and only get worse. I removed both with an oring pic and heated the pump carefully with a butane torch but it was a pain in the A. If i can find replacements that are an exact fit and they work i will let you guys know. It would save a ton of money if I make it work. I would post a pic but cant on youtube comments
Seth did you figure out a compatible replacement for the seal and o-ring? I'd love to get more detail on how you did your repair. The price of the replacement pump assembly is almost 2/3 the price of a complete new x5 sprayer, with warranty, which almost makes these things disposable.
I didn’t think these could be rebuilt or repaired. I bought an X7 and I had called graco about a question I had and the rep there told me that these style pumps just need to be replaced when they go bad. He said when mine goes out I’d need to buy a whole new rig or possibly purchase a whole new pump unit and I’d only be able to reuse my frame or cart with wheels. So I’m happy to see this vid. I’m gonna download it.
@@wyattsdad8561 He replaced the whole pump unit in this video. The Graco rep was referring to how the more expensing units can rebuild the actual pump vs replace the non serviceable pump unit like shown in this video
Correct. Looks like after another 500 or so gallons the pump i replaced in my graco x5 is going out again. I'm going to replace it again and see how long I can keep the unit going.
I bought one of these, leaking, and gummed up with paint, here's what I did. I drilled a small hole from the bottom up to where the piston exits the hole. Remember how water pumps on cars have a hole there so it acts as an early warning sign for a failing seal? Same idea. There is a packing seal about two thirds in and you can feel resistance when installing the piston. I squirted gun oil in there and let it re-moisturize the packing. Also, I wired in a separate fuse holder so I can replace the fuse, and not the whole board. It's really a simple machine. I hope the hole let's paint run out and not gum up gears. I hope this helps someone out there.
I drilled a hole too n it helps to leak the paint out into a small bucket with a cloth filter...i re-use that paint....im trying to find a silicon sealer to patch the piston leak...
@@rafiedenur1250 , Hi I have my pump leaking too, is it possible to get a picture or drawing of your modification. It is a good idea before it losts preasure , Thanks
Need to open it up and apply TSL on pump gasket periodically. This will increase its life significantly. These are designed to fail that's why it's not simple to access this area to apply TSL.
When you put a new pump on these can you turn that big gear by hand easily, or does the new piston and pump create too much pressure to easily turn by hand. I have two of them that are clean as can be and don't look like they have had more than a few gallons run through them. But they won't prime and don't seem to create and vacuum or pressure at all. Both ball valves are clean as new. I have a couple expensive sprayers and I've been painting 40 years. I just can't believe these things are worn out. That pump is much cheaper made for sure.
I have the same sprayer with the same problem of leaking paint took it apart but I was just wondering if they is a gasket or seal where the piston is located I could buy instead of the whole pump?
I’m going to try something and see if it works. I’m going to oversize the od of the hole where the piston goes. Then I’m going to insert a bushing. Let’s see if this works
It looks like it worked. I’m guessing the paint starts leaking through as the piston wears out the bore and over sizes the id. So I’m thinking eventually I will have to replace the sleeve. I rather replace a $3 sleeve than a $100 plus pump.
LUCY STYLES I did it with a mill. I bought the sleeve from grainger. It was honestly an easy route for me because I had access to a mill, but if I didn’t I think I would have just bought a new sprayer
Great video! Thank you. I have a question. I have the x7 and it’s been running great. This last project paint is coming out underneath? It still sprayed, I did sound like something wasn’t right. Any tips or directions? I really appreciate it. Thanks
Steve Osmonson I'm not completely sure if the x7 has the same pump but if it's leaking paint from the bottom it's likely that the pump is going out. It will function for awhile but the paint gets into the gears and will eventually ruin those parts too. I would open it up and have a look
I wonder if I can use garden hoses for suction tubes instead. My used one doesn’t come with any tubes. I want to test it out before spending more money and time on it
Hola compre una magnum x7 y por herror lo conectaron a la eneegia de 220 v se malogro sin darle uso me podra ayudar con el diagrama de la tarjeta electronica q sea para energia 220v muy agraadecido Diis me lo bendiga
Hello good afternoon. I have a Graco Magnum Pro X9, it has a new gasket kit, when I turn it on in Prime position it works very well, the problem is when I want to turn it on after turning it off, either in the same position or to apply paint. I have 2 opinions, it can be the Pressure Switch (check that it does not have a short circuit) or change the complete motor (check it also) which is not good because it is expensive. Do you have any idea how I can check both options to detect or rule out the faults? It is important to mention that if the machine stays working and does not turn off, it works very well and does not smell of burning. Kind regards.
How can you tell if your pump is going bad or if your machine had a clog? My X7 was working as it should, cleaned it the same as i always do. Went to use it the next day, its got full pressure for 1-2 seconds then loses almost all pressure. Let off the trigger for 1-2 seconds and it will bring pressure back but loses it again
think i have an older x5 model(front label looks different) . Is the outlet valve set up not the same? mine seems to not be removable to clean. My sprayer wont hold pressure. Ive cleaned the inlet valve but it still wont hold pressure.
You did a fantastic job but the unit pump are so cheap it’s not even worth rebuilding it , just save your money get the higher end with external pump and you can pop in a new pump externally easily. With the money you keep spending on those toys you can get one of there real units.. I know they can be expensive, but they will last a long time..
Muito bom , a minha está disparando quando solta o gatilho ... Mas o concerto e caro demais ... Vou estudar se e o regulador de pressão ... Por que ela funciona só está com baixa pressão e disparada direto
I have a Graco X5 Magnum series a part, unit part number 262800. I need a new pump assembly. Mine has a solenoid by the pressure control valve. Push to prime button. Will this part work on my unit?
Great video.Which kit of repair did you use 16F047 or 16F049? These are very similar.I have Magnum A45 pro plus model,but pump looks identical to you old one.
@@DIYAllied Thanks,I missed it ,16F047,my local service can sell only 16G227,this is complete pump with ball knocker,priming valve,etc... I want buy pump body with piston only.
I can't remember exactly but i think it was $60. I have heard they have gone up in price to the point it's almost not worth doing anymore. Sucks when pumps go out as it is.
I've done some more research and have not come up with a definitive answer yet. The series B and C have a "Prime" Button that the series A does not. I'm not sure if you can buy that part and simply add that feature to your Series A or if the chassis of the series A simply can't accommodate that feature all together.
I have magnum X-7 and a leaking problem But I try to find just the gasket repair kit Anyone know with what other pumps compatibles are the gaskets Because I don’t find just the gaskets for this pump
Its likely the outlet ball check valve. Its right where the hose comes out of the machine. What the hose attaches to is the check valve. It is pretty likely that there is an obstruction that is causing the ball not to seat well. Remove it and check. If this valve is not closing completely the hose will shake like its building pressure but never stops.
the ball seems to be clear I cleaned it out very clear carefully and it's nice and silver with no paint residue but the spring tension seems to be very very weak
Sir Miles Does the hose shake like it's trying to build pressure? If it does, that valve is probably the problem. It could also be the intake valve. I would say it's less likely but those two check valves are pretty crucial to it being able to build pressure.
I ran water through mine when switching paint colors from flat white to grey semi . within minutes the wife saw paint coming from housing bottom . I think I smoked the packing gasket . How much is the part . I can get it fixed for under 200.00 or fix myself since I have already pulled it apart to view the pump . Suggestions ?
I have an affiliate link in the description if you choose to do it yourself. $131 plus shipping. You may want to check out my other video about pump failure to make sure it's worth fixing. If you have it apart already it isn't that hard to put a pump in and get it going yourself.
How long did it last before the pump went bad?
Around 500 gallons. The replacement pump that I am installing in this video has about 400 gallons on it and it's still going strong.
@@DIYAllied thank you for the quick reply. Then this should last me a while.
@@sho95100You are welcome. Yes it will. I have a whole playlist of videos on the magnum x5 if you are interested in more info on setting up or cleaning etc.
@@DIYAllied i just bought one thats for that answer
You are welcome. Thanks for commenting.
Holy cow. Reminds me of replacing a C4 corvette heater core. They start assembling starting with the core and built the car around it. Nice work.
Lol.
Great video. I now I know I'm buying a new sprayer and selling my broken one for $20 at my yard sale.
Thanks
I got to digging and down the cylinder built into the wall i found the reason for paint eventually leaking. My piston was perfect and not scored at all. There is a black plastic seal on top of a rubber o ring. Once these start to degrade paint will leak beyond the piston and only get worse. I removed both with an oring pic and heated the pump carefully with a butane torch but it was a pain in the A. If i can find replacements that are an exact fit and they work i will let you guys know. It would save a ton of money if I make it work. I would post a pic but cant on youtube comments
Wow. Thats awesome info buddy. Thanks for doing the work to figure all of that out.
Seth did you figure out a compatible replacement for the seal and o-ring? I'd love to get more detail on how you did your repair. The price of the replacement pump assembly is almost 2/3 the price of a complete new x5 sprayer, with warranty, which almost makes these things disposable.
I didn’t think these could be rebuilt or repaired. I bought an X7 and I had called graco about a question I had and the rep there told me that these style pumps just need to be replaced when they go bad. He said when mine goes out I’d need to buy a whole new rig or possibly purchase a whole new pump unit and I’d only be able to reuse my frame or cart with wheels.
So I’m happy to see this vid. I’m gonna download it.
Thank you. Good luck with your x7
@@DIYAllied thanks man!
@@wyattsdad8561 He replaced the whole pump unit in this video. The Graco rep was referring to how the more expensing units can rebuild the actual pump vs replace the non serviceable pump unit like shown in this video
Correct. Looks like after another 500 or so gallons the pump i replaced in my graco x5 is going out again. I'm going to replace it again and see how long I can keep the unit going.
@@DIYAllied how much money is the replacement unit?
Easy to follow
Clear pics
THANKS!!
Thank you.
I bought one of these, leaking, and gummed up with paint, here's what I did. I drilled a small hole from the bottom up to where the piston exits the hole. Remember how water pumps on cars have a hole there so it acts as an early warning sign for a failing seal? Same idea. There is a packing seal about two thirds in and you can feel resistance when installing the piston. I squirted gun oil in there and let it re-moisturize the packing. Also, I wired in a separate fuse holder so I can replace the fuse, and not the whole board. It's really a simple machine. I hope the hole let's paint run out and not gum up gears. I hope this helps someone out there.
Sounds like a great idea. The sooner you know the seal is failing, the better.
Hitchens thinksnot any pics please, desertelitepainting@gmail.com
Hi - will you supply pics? Would like to do the same with my x5.
Thanks
I drilled a hole too n it helps to leak the paint out into a small bucket with a cloth filter...i re-use that paint....im trying to find a silicon sealer to patch the piston leak...
@@rafiedenur1250 , Hi I have my pump leaking too, is it possible to get a picture or drawing of your modification. It is a good idea before it losts preasure , Thanks
allways turn pressure down before switching prime opened or closed wont have this problem had mine 5 yrs never a problem
Hey man, killer video. thanks a ton!
Thank you. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
I have everything needed, I just haven’t had the chance to do it. I should have time this week coming up. I’ll update you on weather it worked or not.
Great job. Very Detailed
Sir Miles thank you
Thank you very much for this video
You are welcome. Thanks for commenting.
Got the x7 and planning to do some extra cash to star with then save up for a more powerful one.
Great plan. It will pay for itself and then some.
DIY Allied thanks 👍.
Need to open it up and apply TSL on pump gasket periodically. This will increase its life significantly. These are designed to fail that's why it's not simple to access this area to apply TSL.
Great video. I was thinking about it but the pump cost as much as a new unit. I really don't understand it.
I agree. The pump was about half that price when I made the video. Thanks for watching.
Love your work.
Thank you.
When you put a new pump on these can you turn that big gear by hand easily, or does the new piston and pump create too much pressure to easily turn by hand. I have two of them that are clean as can be and don't look like they have had more than a few gallons run through them. But they won't prime and don't seem to create and vacuum or pressure at all. Both ball valves are clean as new. I have a couple expensive sprayers and I've been painting 40 years. I just can't believe these things are worn out. That pump is much cheaper made for sure.
Thanks excellent
You are welcome
Good job man
Thanks
I have the same sprayer with the same problem of leaking paint took it apart but I was just wondering if they is a gasket or seal where the piston is located I could buy instead of the whole pump?
Unfortunately no.
Very helpful, thanks. 👍
Thank you so much. Did you replace your pump?
@@DIYAllied I bought a Spraytech yrs ago. I have used it about 10 times for just around the house stuff. thanks
@@robviolin1 thank you
This is a great video
Thank you very much.
Excellent
Thank you.
How did you get the bearing out because I’ve been trying for the past hour and no luck
It's been a while since I made this video so I'm not much help. These parts can be a real pain to get out though. Best of luck.
The bearing on the shaft appears to be a radial bearing. I bought something similar on eBay for building a cnc machine. I believe the vendor was PGN.
Thanks for the info. Very much appreciated
I’m going to try something and see if it works. I’m going to oversize the od of the hole where the piston goes. Then I’m going to insert a bushing. Let’s see if this works
Did your fix work for you?
It looks like it worked. I’m guessing the paint starts leaking through as the piston wears out the bore and over sizes the id. So I’m thinking eventually I will have to replace the sleeve. I rather replace a $3 sleeve than a $100 plus pump.
@@Eric-yx1gs How did you bore the cylinder and where did you then find a sleeve to fit?
LUCY STYLES I did it with a mill. I bought the sleeve from grainger. It was honestly an easy route for me because I had access to a mill, but if I didn’t I think I would have just bought a new sprayer
Great video! Thank you. I have a question. I have the x7 and it’s been running great. This last project paint is coming out underneath? It still sprayed, I did sound like something wasn’t right. Any tips or directions? I really appreciate it. Thanks
Steve Osmonson I'm not completely sure if the x7 has the same pump but if it's leaking paint from the bottom it's likely that the pump is going out. It will function for awhile but the paint gets into the gears and will eventually ruin those parts too. I would open it up and have a look
Thank you! Do you have a step by step guide you can send? I'd be willing to pay for it. Thanks again
@@steveosmonson6535 I'm sorry I didn't see this comment. The process should be the same as with the x5 since the pumps are the same
I wonder if I can use garden hoses for suction tubes instead. My used one doesn’t come with any tubes. I want to test it out before spending more money and time on it
Probably could yes.
Hola compre una magnum x7 y por herror lo conectaron a la eneegia de 220 v se malogro sin darle uso me podra ayudar con el diagrama de la tarjeta electronica q sea para energia 220v muy agraadecido Diis me lo bendiga
Hello good afternoon.
I have a Graco Magnum Pro X9, it has a new gasket kit, when I turn it on in Prime position it works very well, the problem is when I want to turn it on after turning it off, either in the same position or to apply paint.
I have 2 opinions, it can be the Pressure Switch (check that it does not have a short circuit) or change the complete motor (check it also) which is not good because it is expensive.
Do you have any idea how I can check both options to detect or rule out the faults?
It is important to mention that if the machine stays working and does not turn off, it works very well and does not smell of burning.
Kind regards.
How can you tell if your pump is going bad or if your machine had a clog? My X7 was working as it should, cleaned it the same as i always do. Went to use it the next day, its got full pressure for 1-2 seconds then loses almost all pressure. Let off the trigger for 1-2 seconds and it will bring pressure back but loses it again
Possibly a bad inlet valve.
think i have an older x5 model(front label looks different) . Is the outlet valve set up not the same? mine seems to not be removable to clean. My sprayer wont hold pressure. Ive cleaned the inlet valve but it still wont hold pressure.
I'm sorry I didn't see your comment. Are you still searching for answers?
You did a fantastic job but the unit pump are so cheap it’s not even worth rebuilding it , just save your money get the higher end with external pump and you can pop in a new pump externally easily. With the money you keep spending on those toys you can get one of there real units.. I know they can be expensive, but they will last a long time..
Muito bom , a minha está disparando quando solta o gatilho ... Mas o concerto e caro demais ... Vou estudar se e o regulador de pressão ... Por que ela funciona só está com baixa pressão e disparada direto
Heat removes bearings
What if mine is just leaking? Can I just repack it and do you have a video for this?
Unfortunately you can not repack this model.
I have a Graco X5 Magnum series a part, unit part number 262800. I need a new pump assembly. Mine has a solenoid by the pressure control valve. Push to prime button. Will this part work on my unit?
i need the bearing give mee please the exact meserment i want buy one my m5 graco is failure because the bearing is down
Great video.Which kit of repair did you use 16F047 or 16F049? These are very similar.I have Magnum A45 pro plus model,but pump looks identical to you old one.
I have a link in the description to the pump I bought.
@@DIYAllied Thanks,I missed it ,16F047,my local service can sell only 16G227,this is complete pump with ball knocker,priming valve,etc... I want buy pump body with piston only.
@@Tomashokas I have not seen any online but you may be able to buy those parts separately
Can you replace the hose with a softer one. So it’s not so stiff to move around ?
I'm not sure actually. I don't think so
Yes,they sell them at Lowes or any quality paint store.
Can you replace the bearing on the motor? Mine sounds like it's going bad. Lts17 want to know before I buy a new pump.
I have not found that part available anywhere.
How much did u pay for the pump
I can't remember exactly but i think it was $60. I have heard they have gone up in price to the point it's almost not worth doing anymore. Sucks when pumps go out as it is.
Is it possible to just replace the pump seals
Unfortunately no.
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Is there any difference between r5 and xr5?
my x7 says series co9a would the series b work on this?
I've done some more research and have not come up with a definitive answer yet. The series B and C have a "Prime" Button that the series A does not. I'm not sure if you can buy that part and simply add that feature to your Series A or if the chassis of the series A simply can't accommodate that feature all together.
I have magnum X-7 and a leaking problem
But I try to find just the gasket repair kit
Anyone know with what other pumps compatibles are the gaskets
Because I don’t find just the gaskets for this pump
As far as I know the only way to fix the issue is to replace the entire pump.
That’s a pain in the but to change out!
Yes it is.
I believe they go bad when you power flush the unit. Forced water can do a lot of damage.
I had the same theory for awhile. Could very well be. Thanks for watching.
What kills these pumps the fastest is switching them from spray to prime while the unt is still under pressure
the piton have a O ring ?
No it doesn't. From what I understand its a leather seal and you can't replace it.
How do I go on line to order a 12v 250 wait fuse for a paint sprayer. Is anybody. Here
You need a fuse?
Link to the prior vid? Can't find it in your Playlists...
Which video are you looking for? I'll link to it for you.
@@DIYAllied the one you mentioned in the video... you said the other sprayer that was in even worse shape in the prior video.
Hi where can I get the pump head to buy for X7 and what's the price
Pretty sure you can find them on eBay. Amazon did not have any last time I looked. I'm guessing they cost around $140
What if its priming great but running and not holding pressure?
Its likely the outlet ball check valve. Its right where the hose comes out of the machine. What the hose attaches to is the check valve. It is pretty likely that there is an obstruction that is causing the ball not to seat well. Remove it and check. If this valve is not closing completely the hose will shake like its building pressure but never stops.
the ball seems to be clear I cleaned it out very clear carefully and it's nice and silver with no paint residue but the spring tension seems to be very very weak
Sir Miles Does the hose shake like it's trying to build pressure? If it does, that valve is probably the problem. It could also be the intake valve. I would say it's less likely but those two check valves are pretty crucial to it being able to build pressure.
I ran water through mine when switching paint colors from flat white to grey semi . within minutes the wife saw paint coming from housing bottom . I think I smoked the packing gasket . How much is the part . I can get it fixed for under 200.00 or fix myself since I have already pulled it apart to view the pump . Suggestions ?
I have an affiliate link in the description if you choose to do it yourself. $131 plus shipping. You may want to check out my other video about pump failure to make sure it's worth fixing. If you have it apart already it isn't that hard to put a pump in and get it going yourself.
I replaced pump hook all wires back up now motor want run any answers
Possibly the pressure dial is turned way down.
Hello, Where can I buy the pump?
I have an affiliate link to the pump in the description. Full disclosure I do make a small commission if you decide to buy it.
Is it safe to turn on without liquid running through it. I no power washers it can kill them
adam cain It is safe to run them without liquid for short periods of time. When priming the pump it runs without liquid for a short time.
Too many ads man.
I don't control how or when ads are shown. Sorry for the inconvenience.
where could i find this motor plz on ebay or amazon
I have never seen a motor for sale. Only pumps unfortunately.
@@DIYAllied where I can order the pump ? Mine work and everything but start liking the paint or water out of it
@@brayanramos1621 I have a link in the description where you can find the pump for the magnum x5
late reply but you buy the motor thru home depot, they drop ship from Graco, around $55
I had a question there’s a white piece that goes to the pump what would it be called ? What’s your email hy
I think it's a thermal relief valve.
Thank you for the help !
I have a Graco lts 17, and i remplace the pump for a new one but still leaking.
Oh geez. Sorry to hear that.
Cuanto cuesta esa bomba
Dijo que no recuerda exactamente pero alrededor de $60. Pero también dice que ya aumentaron de precio.