My church in europe is a Pentecostal church , owned by a white man. We pay offering once a week and it's not compulsory. We don't pay tithes, pastors don't receive salaries. The once a week offering is for rent, heating, light and other expenses for the past 20 yrs i have been there. They also let the members know the amount in the church account and how they spend the money.
@@charlesudechi2796 The brethren in kogi state is like this. No offering, tithe or anything. They meet in members houses, go out to evangelize, everyone works or does their business.
Zac Poonen has been a great teacher to me all this years of my growth in Christ. He is someone I will recommend believers to listen to. From his books (which are powerful and free) to his sermons , it will help you really . Thanks George for bringing him in
Thanks brother George for bringing me in contact with brother Zac poonen. This is my first time of hearing about him and am encouraged by the level of sincerity and truth with which he preach the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ. I totally agree with his conditions for giving and I pray that our pastors will spend more time in teaching about being born again than giving of all kinds. His number one condition is being BORN AGAIN. A born again is a new creature and a new creature is one who is formerly under the curse of the law but is now free by the blood of Jesus Christ. As true believers, we are free from the curse of the law because after receiving Christ into our lives, we were given the power to fulfill the law. We are no longer afraid because we are now law abiding citizens of heaven by our faith in Christ Jesus. You can only be under the curse of any law when you break that particular law. So, as Christians and true believers we can only remain free from the curse of the law if we maintain our born again status. A true born again is a cheerful and generous giver or sower of seed, just like Jesus. When some pastors preach about the dangers or consequences of not giving, be it tithe or any other kind of giving, they do that with different motives. Some do that with the same motive they have when they preach about the dangers and consequences in loosing your born again status, grieving the Holy spirit or disobeying God at any particular point in time. As written in 2 cor 5 : 8 ...... Sincerity and truth.... Is what God wants. So, those that do that without sincerity and truth or without the right motives should be left for God to judge not us. Every teaching should be based on BORN AGAIN.
Love Bro. Zac. Brother lives what he preaches. Met him some years back. He's really humble and down to earth. Hung out with us young believers, no super spiritual airs about him. It was like hanging out with your favorite wise Uncle. We sat around him at dinner and he generously answered our questions. Blessed experience. May the Lord grant us all light on the Way. Amen.
Thanks BRG for bringing these seasoned preachers out more for believers to listen and hear undiluted teachings of Bible through the help of holy spirit. False doctrines has confused believers & don’t even know what to believe anymore. These seasoned preachers are not popular like the false ones and that justifies what the Bible says that broad is the way that many follow and the end of it is destruction but narrow is the path that leads to eternal life and very few sees it. May God help us.
You are right. Kenneth Hagin, father of prosperity message in America, was a mentor and papa to many of the leading GOs in Nigeria. He is late now and handed over his empire to his son. He was the same person that mentored Creflo dollar. Thank God he has repented. The real men of God dont have the moral conscience to fly private jets, live a life of excessive luxury
I thought I was born again until I met Brother Zac Poonen. No one preaches like him in this present age. I will encourage everyone to listen to his messages. My relationship with my Lord Jesus is now on a different level. God bless you my brother for bringing him here.
Great one brother. Bro Zac is a great teacher of the scriptures. All his books are free believe it or not. His teachings are always refreshing. I thank God for the 7000 and more that God has kept from bowing down to Baal.
Apostle George more grace sir heaven is proud of you,I have been following you for some months now and I have discover that everything you're saying is the truth of what Christianity have been reduce to,soul winning have turn to money winning,may the Lord Jesus help his true churches in Jesus mighty name amen.
Yes !! Bro. Zac Poonen is one of my guides through the Bible and life in Christ...a trustworthy servant of the Lord and living a fruitful life as a member of the Body of Christ. I will also recommend his messages and books. Thanks for alerting many to this Truth and all the deception of this church age !! God bless !!
This is awesome. I have been wishing to be a member of this kind of assembly for ages, until i discovered Apostle Takim online. Needs a forum that can give me the real gospel of salvation. Thanks alot George.
Every church is missing the point when it comes to giving. The giving that the Bible emphasises is the one to the needy. That is why Christ likened Himself to the needy when He said, when I was hungry, naked, sick, you took care of me. Offering given to church is different from that. More of our means are supposed to be shared with the needy.
I don't think there is any Church in Nigeria that don't pass offering box round or make members get up to drop their offering. The only ministry which off course not a church that doesn't even collect offering in their programs is Peace House with the Leader as Gbile Akani. Neither offering not seed sowing is permitted in his evangelical programs. God bless him
People really need to do some critical thinking on this issue. If a preacher tells you that you'd go to hell for not paying tithe, he's by logic saying that all the disciples of Christ and early Christians are in hell. Because there's no record that shows they paid tithe. And by extension, such a preacher is nullifying the bible. Because, you cannot be preaching the new testament which is written by the apostles who are supposedly in hell and still say you are preaching the gospel of Christ! People should really put on their thinking cap.
I attend one of brother Zac's branches here in Abu dhabi in UAE. This man is a blessing to the body of Christ. God used his teachings to really open my eyes and I am in awe. He doesn't collect tithes in his church and the offering box is kept somewhere. I was literally looking for it to put money inside and was shocked when I saw a very small box. Infact there is alot to say about this ministry especially the fact that you are not supposed to put money in the offering box if you are owing someone who has a grudge against someone you have not fogiven. He has 5 rules you must keep before you put money in the offering box.
I have been watching brother Jack. He really teaches the gospel. Thanks George for bringing to light the shady things that happen in the house of our God. May God continue to enlighten, strengthen and protect you in Jesus' name, amen.
Being Real George Zac Poonen is a disciplined preacher. I agree with him I pay tithe and offerings to God in a Bible believing church, where I know that the money goes to God's work and not for the pastor's luxury. Tithing is not an old testament ordinance. It was there before the law, the pentateuch was given.
BRG. Go and dig more of zacpoonens preaching on tithes. You will be shocked. Listen to his preachings and his books are free. Imagine. He has 100 churches loan free
Thank you for this vídeo, my mind is clear now, i Will follow Jesus in spirit and true and most of all, make peace with everyone before i even call his name, God bless you BRG.
Zac Poonen is a grandmaster teacher. He helped me in the days of my confusion. I love how he puts it. It is their own understanding. Paul originated the Sunday offering but they did so before the meeting not during the meeting.
The apostles in the bible were not paid. Apostle Paul and others took up their secular work , they were not a burden on the people. People gave and it was shared. Pastoring is to groom or mentor younger converts....it's not a job. As an older matured convert, pastor younger ones, don't start a business.
If you are in Christ and accept a curse of the law as effective, you don't know the grace you have. Bible says Jesus became the curse. Which curse now exists again? None. Operation fear and guilt as tools of deceptions keeps people in bondage. Give freely with love.
The pastor can receive a salary after all he has to live. This is supported by scripture in 1 Corinthians 9:9-14. But outside of Africa many pastors have their own gainful employment as in accordance 2 Thessalonians 3 7-10.. It's only in Africa that pastors are lazy and will not work because church for them is business.
Why do you people only quote Apostle Paul and yet ignorantly so. Which work did Jesus do throughout His 3 and half years of ministry? The 11 disciples after Jesus left...what work were they doing to feed themselves and their families? Even Paul that you like quoting was always travelling you think he was always working while travelling?
Well done BRG. Zacponen l have been listening to him for years . He is very good. I have listen to him when he said God told him not to tithe. I watch him to the extent l know where those videos are well done BRG. BRG he has more videos on tithe.
It really takes each individual’s revelation and faith to give towards the ministry. Curses aside, Bible bashing aside. It’s pointless to sacrifice yourself just to please the onlookers. God sees the heart and man sees the outer person.
Poonen's style is the apostolic style, and with the lockdowns last 2 years show that it can work anywhere. People can meet in homes, if they become big, they will know and move on their own volition. Christians in India and many parts in the middle east are in the minority and often persecuted. Persecution helps the church to be focused on what is important-Christ and selfless love to neighbors.
I want everyone to know that all the places in the Bible that they are asking people to give to the poor, the poor in the church, widows, fatherless and strangers, all these covetous pastors have twisted those places to give to them. I want everyone to read 2 Corinthians 9:1-8, that is where the got 'God loves a cheerful giver' from. If you read that chapter from verse one, Paul was actually talking about giving to the saints (members of the church) and not to pastors. Let everyone read and understand. Paul said again that they, the Apostles worked with their hands, have no certain dwelling place .
it's interesting how simple the scriptures are especially when it comes to 'giving'. Sometimes I think about how in charismatic circles, giving to the poor, orphans and widows is never talked about. Emphasis is rather laid on sowing a seed to rise to another level or to tap into a supposed anointing.
@@benedictosei3767 Please read Psalms 41:1-4 And see all the blessings attached to giving to the poor, compared to giving to pastors. And read how Jesus said he will condemn people not helping the needy to hell.
George my beloved brother, giving to church for God's work is one of Christian obligations. Though Christians this day give wrongly. Considering yourself first before you give to God's work is an act of killing faith; but you should know how to give rightly, and godly so that you don't wastes your offerings.
Exactly. Why would God say “don’t let your left hand know what your right hand doeth” but yet you should go and let everyone see how rich you are and how much you are giving to the church on the altar.
This tithe is real I remember when I was not paying tithe due to my friends telling me not to pay because the pastor is the one spending the money, I heed to their advice. I work then but I can give an account of my money. Then I meant another friend who told me paying ur tithe is very good. I also headed to it, and since then my life changed. The blessing is overflowing. If u give our tithes and offerings to fake pastors u will not get any result. The soil u put ur seeds in matters. I love what u do BRR😘
Given is okay, as want. Deuteronomy 14:23-29 Have we ever thought of church coming together to own companies, employ members and pay pastors salaries from there. Some members will be share holders.
So u feel is what u give that make u got bless? So the death of Christ is nothing rite? Please read ur bible well don't come with ur own thoughts who is fake ND real? Money don't equal anything if God wonts money then he will get ..what do u call blessing? If it has to do with money den u are just not serious is ur life representing Jesus Christ? Do u keep the temple holy? Do u bring people to Know God what is ur purpose on earth
May God help and forgive us all. I knew there was fire on the mountain when during one meeting with a minister, someone asked a question about his views about people who gets money from dirty sources and being it to church... His response that his church needs the money because the altar will sanctify the money was shocking to me, it was just too clear to me that he doesn't have concern for whatever become of such givers because I can't relate how you'll say you need dirty money to get the gospel to unsaved people while the giver is not saved is too ironical and hypocritical. Keep it up George!
This an eye opener, most people titth and give offering unknowing,many in fact don't go to church if they don't have anything to give,may God His people.
Other ministers criticized Prophet TB Joshua when he told his followers to give their tithes to the needy who are around them including their relative and not to bring tithes to his church, instead he advised his followers to give thanksgiving when they feel blessed not as a way of asking blessing or healing from God. He has his partnership program where his followers around the world were generously sending donations and the ministry has been very stable financially.. I spent a week at SCOAN and never heard any preaching about offering or tithes. My take about the tithing mentioned in the book of Malach, i of which most men of God like to use to pressurize followers into tithing is, in the old church, the needy including widows, ophanes used to be taken care by the church on the daily bases, that is why it was necessary for tithing to ensure enough stock of provisions for the needy were in place. Nowadays churches don't include provisions for the needy in the daily bases, on the contrary the need are being pressurized to give the little they have in order to be blessed. Prophet TB Joshua once said if you bring tithes to my church, I may use it on something else and it will hinder my relationship with God because the tithes are meant for the needy.
Continue never mind human beings back stabbing. Expose them the more and let's see if there will no changes. Your dance steps is superb. Well done dear.
Those kinds of "pastors" ONLY want your money. They are misquoting 2 Samuel 24:24. Read the entire chaper and the one before it, for context. David had sinned by counting Israel (contrary to God's will) and needed to sacrifice to stop the plague that resulted from his naughtiness. Arauna offered his land but wise King David, knowing the plague, was his fault, refused to accept such a free gift but insisted on paying for it. Do you see this doesn't apply to how the pastor's use it? God bless you abundantly.
Very true, the Word of God should be quoted against satan, "It is written ... " as Jesus did against the devil in Matt 4:3-11, but taught the children of God as He did on the Mount in Matt 5:1,2..
2Cor5:21 says “ He made Him to be sin for us who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him” This is the starting point of Christianity not Tithing. Wen u realise u are the righteousness of God, u will avoid sin and focus on the love of God. Giving flows from agape love.
George, you're really trying. Thanks I love Bro Zac Poonen , I listen to him, the Same with Bro Gbile Akanni. I thank God for His Grace upon my live, I can't never be fooled by any man.
The founding pentecostal churches following Asuza outpouring tithed it is our interpretation The problem is the way people now celebrate offerings and the excesses By all means tithe give God and also give others and yourself Let the money process in church be very simple
Scripture does not say that God puts a church under a curse for not giving cheerfully. Scripture says God loves a cheerful giver but does not say anything about cursing us. It's important not to add to scripture because it distorts who God is.
hey man, being real here, i never really loved watching any of your videos, because before all i saw u do was u literally attacking men of GOD and pointing out their mistake without stating or proffering any corrective measures to it, but now i can testify you have grown spiritually and in every other way ,even your video content is beautiful. i say this becuz in this video you literally preached about the CHRIST LIKE WAY of thinking and living and how it should be done even in our time according to the bible which is what CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT, it is a way of life, Jesus way of life, and i applaud you for reminding individual why we follow JESUS CHRIST. i pray that the wisdom of our heavenly father continue to guide you as u not only reveal but also educate young ones in THE BODY OF CHRIST in the LOVE OF CHRIST JESUS himself and with the partnership of the holy spirit what being a CHRISTIAN is allabout
When I was in TREM, they know when you miss your tithe and they come to remind you and not to know why you have not paid it. I think offering box should be put somewhere for people to give cheerfully. Pastor should not know the giver. Will these so called pastors make heaven? God help us.
ORDINATION and Calling of GOD is different per individual.Ephesians 4 talks about the 5 Offices of the scriptures but his mininstry does not have but only elders because he is following what GOD told him.So his mininstry will prosper because he is following what GOD told him. TITHES AND OFFERING ARE SCRIPTURAL AND NO ONE FORCES YOU TO .HELPING THE NEEDY IS SCRIPTURAL AND NO ONE FORCES YOU TO. CHOOSE NOT TO PAY OR PAY FOR THE WORD OF GOD WILL NEVER CHANGE BUT MAN'S WISDOM OF SCRIPTURAL INTERPRETATION VARRY.
For my whole days of following your videos... I have to comment sir. This is what the Bible is... Deuteronomy 14:22-28 Title is not to be given to church according to my understanding. This video has made an impact in my life Mr. George... Thanks so much for the consistent works... God will reward you mightily
There are many that are called to ministry by their belly and quest for filty lucre or pride of life. One of the ways to spot them is their quest for money and fame. Jesus (the word of God) is clear on this. Judiasm (the practices of the Jews under the Pharisees) is what many today are practicing and not Christianity.
George there's a Church here in Ibadan, Nigeria that's just like this Indian Church. They don't collect tithes The Offering is put in a box which is placed in a Conner at the back. The Pastor will announce the prostitutes, Yahoo, robbers, etc are not allowed to give offering If you don't have Tfare back home, or you don't have food for your family the Church will give you as much as you need from the Offering Box
Thanks for the video Apostolic Church in Nigeria also practice that, you don't even know who or what time money was dropped in the wall built in offering box When they want to build, they present the plan to the church, how many bricks, cements and other materials needed for the project, you will just be seeing trucks delivering bricks, cement and other materials without knowing who sent them If the building is a story house, on the day they cast the slab, to my surprise, you will see directors, top government officials and billionaires carrying concrete on their head, no one is big there when it comes to working in God house
I listened to the India pastor and I'm bewildered about such sacrifice for the Church. They went a long way by not accepting a dime. However, I must say that the Bible is. Or against a pastor receiving material benefits from the church.
YOU ARE FREE TO FOLLOW ANY PREACHER AS YOUR SPIRIT LEADS YOU AND IF YOU FIND FAULT IN THAT MAN OF GOD,YOU ARE FREE TO CHANGE AND CHOOSE.KNOW HEAVEN AND HELL ARE REAL.CEHCK YOUR LIFE IF IT IS WHAT THE WORD OF GOD TEACHES YOU TO DO.
They collect offering. Everyone gives whatever they can afford. No threatening or coercion or fanfare of any sort. I've listened to him for many years. Met him personally. He really is what he preaches. Humble and down to earth.
Creflo Dollar put out an apology for receiving tides from his congregation but, the apology don't mean nothing if you don't give them their money back right. These pastors know about tithing and they know that they're not supposed to have people tithing and they're going to pay for it more will be apologizing in the future
My church in europe is a Pentecostal church , owned by a white man. We pay offering once a week and it's not compulsory. We don't pay tithes, pastors don't receive salaries. The once a week offering is for rent, heating, light and other expenses for the past 20 yrs i have been there. They also let the members know the amount in the church account and how they spend the money.
Never will this happen in Nigeria 🇳🇬 or most African countries
@@charlesudechi2796 The brethren in kogi state is like this.
No offering, tithe or anything.
They meet in members houses, go out to evangelize, everyone works or does their business.
This ministry deserves everything you can give👏
There is a church in Colchester UK, is a white pentecostal church, the pay offering once a month and it's not compulsory, if you like
@@luhstephen3016 Is winning souls and changing lives about money?
Zac Poonen has been a great teacher to me all this years of my growth in Christ. He is someone I will recommend believers to listen to. From his books (which are powerful and free) to his sermons , it will help you really . Thanks George for bringing him in
We love you.We enjoy your closing music- Oniduro mi eseun o.
@@doveheneagle5898 David Pawson was a great bible teacher!!!
Zac is a great teacher
Love, love, love Bro. Zac! God bless him and all believers all over the world.
Indeed he is
I love brother Zac Poonen so much. Such a humble, wise man of God.
Offering are a new testament practice that's why Jesus did it. This one is not a church it's a brotherhood
@@nathanaeltvntv9823 I’ll advise you to listen to him before you should even say anything
Love Bro. Zac Poonen! Met him some years back. He truly is what he preaches. Humble, down to earth and an encourager of God's people.
Zac Poonen has been a blessing to my life since I met him some couple of years back. He's a sound and balanced Bible study teacher
Thanks brother George for bringing me in contact with brother Zac poonen.
This is my first time of hearing about him and am encouraged by the level of sincerity and truth with which he preach the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ.
I totally agree with his conditions for giving and I pray that our pastors will spend more time in teaching about being born again than giving of all kinds.
His number one condition is being BORN AGAIN.
A born again is a new creature and a new creature is one who is formerly under the curse of the law but is now free by the blood of Jesus Christ.
As true believers, we are free from the curse of the law because after receiving Christ into our lives, we were given the power to fulfill the law. We are no longer afraid because we are now law abiding citizens of heaven by our faith in Christ Jesus.
You can only be under the curse of any law when you break that particular law.
So, as Christians and true believers we can only remain free from the curse of the law if we maintain our born again status.
A true born again is a cheerful and generous giver or sower of seed, just like Jesus.
When some pastors preach about the dangers or consequences of not giving, be it tithe or any other kind of giving, they do that with different motives. Some do that with the same motive they have when they preach about the dangers and consequences in loosing your born again status, grieving the Holy spirit or disobeying God at any particular point in time.
As written in 2 cor 5 : 8 ...... Sincerity and truth.... Is what God wants.
So, those that do that without sincerity and truth or without the right motives should be left for God to judge not us.
Every teaching should be based on BORN AGAIN.
Love Bro. Zac. Brother lives what he preaches. Met him some years back. He's really humble and down to earth. Hung out with us young believers, no super spiritual airs about him. It was like hanging out with your favorite wise Uncle. We sat around him at dinner and he generously answered our questions. Blessed experience. May the Lord grant us all light on the Way. Amen.
More wisdom, More Grace to your calling Brother George.
I owe Brother Zac a lot…very different man of God
Thanks BRG for bringing these seasoned preachers out more for believers to listen and hear undiluted teachings of Bible through the help of holy spirit. False doctrines has confused believers & don’t even know what to believe anymore. These seasoned preachers are not popular like the false ones and that justifies what the Bible says that broad is the way that many follow and the end of it is destruction but narrow is the path that leads to eternal life and very few sees it. May God help us.
You are right. Kenneth Hagin, father of prosperity message in America, was a mentor and papa to many of the leading GOs in Nigeria. He is late now and handed over his empire to his son. He was the same person that mentored Creflo dollar. Thank God he has repented. The real men of God dont have the moral conscience to fly private jets, live a life of excessive luxury
Even Bro. Hagin warned his mentees just before his passing, of their inordinate leaning towards money but it doesn't seem to have worked.
I thought I was born again until I met Brother Zac Poonen. No one preaches like him in this present age. I will encourage everyone to listen to his messages. My relationship with my Lord Jesus is now on a different level. God bless you my brother for bringing him here.
I have a privilege to listen to him at Abundant Christian Life in Mountain view, California; he and his son teach and discipline others for Christ
I know !! Listen to the late David Pawson also, who has taught through the books of the old and new testaments. More grace!
"No one preaches like him"......there are people you have not heard of yet.😊 Who are working faithfully for the Lord.
Great one brother. Bro Zac is a great teacher of the scriptures. All his books are free believe it or not. His teachings are always refreshing. I thank God for the 7000 and more that God has kept from bowing down to Baal.
Apostle George more grace sir heaven is proud of you,I have been following you for some months now and I have discover that everything you're saying is the truth of what Christianity have been reduce to,soul winning have turn to money winning,may the Lord Jesus help his true churches in Jesus mighty name amen.
BRG, whenever I watch your videos I feel like thanking you and to pray for you - thank God for you: God bless you!
Yes !! Bro. Zac Poonen is one of my guides through the Bible and life in Christ...a trustworthy servant of the Lord and living a fruitful life as a member of the Body of Christ. I will also recommend his messages and books. Thanks for alerting many to this Truth and all the deception of this church age !! God bless !!
This is awesome. I have been wishing to be a member of this kind of assembly for ages, until i discovered Apostle Takim online. Needs a forum that can give me the real gospel of salvation. Thanks alot George.
The business aspect of church has to die for the church to be what Christ wanted.
Every church is missing the point when it comes to giving. The giving that the Bible emphasises is the one to the needy. That is why Christ likened Himself to the needy when He said, when I was hungry, naked, sick, you took care of me. Offering given to church is different from that. More of our means are supposed to be shared with the needy.
I don't think there is any Church in Nigeria that don't pass offering box round or make members get up to drop their offering. The only ministry which off course not a church that doesn't even collect offering in their programs is Peace House with the Leader as Gbile Akani. Neither offering not seed sowing is permitted in his evangelical programs. God bless him
People really need to do some critical thinking on this issue.
If a preacher tells you that you'd go to hell for not paying tithe, he's by logic saying that all the disciples of Christ and early Christians are in hell. Because there's no record that shows they paid tithe.
And by extension, such a preacher is nullifying the bible.
Because, you cannot be preaching the new testament which is written by the apostles who are supposedly in hell and still say you are preaching the gospel of Christ!
People should really put on their thinking cap.
I wonder how you know my script for a video I was working on. ✍️. You really think
@@BeingRealGeorge I guess you should pin the comment. It's a simple logic that many folks ignore.
Good thinking.
I attend one of brother Zac's branches here in Abu dhabi in UAE. This man is a blessing to the body of Christ. God used his teachings to really open my eyes and I am in awe. He doesn't collect tithes in his church and the offering box is kept somewhere. I was literally looking for it to put money inside and was shocked when I saw a very small box. Infact there is alot to say about this ministry especially the fact that you are not supposed to put money in the offering box if you are owing someone who has a grudge against someone you have not fogiven. He has 5 rules you must keep before you put money in the offering box.
I have been watching brother Jack. He really teaches the gospel. Thanks George for bringing to light the shady things that happen in the house of our God. May God continue to enlighten, strengthen and protect you in Jesus' name, amen.
Being Real George Zac Poonen is a disciplined preacher. I agree with him I pay tithe and offerings to God in a Bible believing church, where I know that the money goes to God's work and not for the pastor's luxury. Tithing is not an old testament ordinance. It was there before the law, the pentateuch was given.
This video is very enlightening. Pls keep the flag flying. You are doing a great job. Thank you👏👏👏
BRG. Go and dig more of zacpoonens preaching on tithes. You will be shocked. Listen to his preachings and his books are free. Imagine. He has 100 churches loan free
Thank you for this vídeo, my mind is clear now, i Will follow Jesus in spirit and true and most of all, make peace with everyone before i even call his name, God bless you BRG.
Zac Poonen is a grandmaster teacher. He helped me in the days of my confusion. I love how he puts it. It is their own understanding. Paul originated the Sunday offering but they did so before the meeting not during the meeting.
This!!!!! Not during the meeting. So true! Thank you for pointing that out.
The apostles in the bible were not paid. Apostle Paul and others took up their secular work , they were not a burden on the people. People gave and it was shared. Pastoring is to groom or mentor younger converts....it's not a job. As an older matured convert, pastor younger ones, don't start a business.
If you are in Christ and accept a curse of the law as effective, you don't know the grace you have. Bible says Jesus became the curse. Which curse now exists again? None. Operation fear and guilt as tools of deceptions keeps people in bondage. Give freely with love.
The pastor can receive a salary after all he has to live. This is supported by scripture in 1 Corinthians 9:9-14. But outside of Africa many pastors have their own gainful employment as in accordance 2 Thessalonians 3 7-10.. It's only in Africa that pastors are lazy and will not work because church for them is business.
Apostle Paul says it's a tight for ministers of them gospel to be compensated.
But they chose not to
Why do you people only quote Apostle Paul and yet ignorantly so.
Which work did Jesus do throughout His 3 and half years of ministry?
The 11 disciples after Jesus left...what work were they doing to feed themselves and their families?
Even Paul that you like quoting was always travelling you think he was always working while travelling?
Thank you BRG for bringing me to remembrance this humble man of God
Well done BRG. Zacponen l have been listening to him for years . He is very good. I have listen to him when he said God told him not to tithe. I watch him to the extent l know where those videos are well done BRG. BRG he has more videos on tithe.
May God bless you for shading more light on this issue
During lockdown, one person sef brought out a ussd code for tithe and offering, at a point when many people were not receiving salaries...
Pathetic
Many of our megachurches in Nigeria encourage members to use ussd even before lockdown but in all these nobody forces you to pay money in churches
Brother George God bless you and your Ministry.
Ride on. Exciting
Bro, Zac is worth listening to and an example to christians.
Zac is a very good teacher of the Word.
BRG, I love your dance and your analysis of course. You are doing the work of God. Remain blessed.
It really takes each individual’s revelation and faith to give towards the ministry. Curses aside, Bible bashing aside. It’s pointless to sacrifice yourself just to please the onlookers. God sees the heart and man sees the outer person.
Poonen's style is the apostolic style, and with the lockdowns last 2 years show that it can work anywhere.
People can meet in homes, if they become big, they will know and move on their own volition.
Christians in India and many parts in the middle east are in the minority and often persecuted. Persecution helps the church to be focused on what is important-Christ and selfless love to neighbors.
You have said it all...Yes !! Amen !!
I want everyone to know that all the places in the Bible that they are asking people to give to the poor, the poor in the church, widows, fatherless and strangers, all these covetous pastors have twisted those places to give to them.
I want everyone to read 2 Corinthians 9:1-8, that is where the got 'God loves a cheerful giver' from.
If you read that chapter from verse one, Paul was actually talking about giving to the saints (members of the church) and not to pastors.
Let everyone read and understand.
Paul said again that they, the Apostles worked with their hands, have no certain dwelling place .
it's interesting how simple the scriptures are especially when it comes to 'giving'. Sometimes I think about how in charismatic circles, giving to the poor, orphans and widows is never talked about. Emphasis is rather laid on sowing a seed to rise to another level or to tap into a supposed anointing.
@@benedictosei3767 Please read Psalms 41:1-4
And see all the blessings attached to giving to the poor, compared to giving to pastors.
And read how Jesus said he will condemn people not helping the needy to hell.
@@jonescosbi3002 God bless you!!!
Thank you Holy Spirit for this Revelation...thank you for this video it has unlock my mind about tithing and offerings
BRG May The LORD Almighty Bless Your Good Work In Christ JESUS AMEN ☹️
George my beloved brother, giving to church for God's work is one of Christian obligations. Though Christians this day give wrongly. Considering yourself first before you give to God's work is an act of killing faith; but you should know how to give rightly, and godly so that you don't wastes your offerings.
I am a member of Brother Zac Poonen’s church in London. He 100 percent teaches the truth and taught me who Jesus Christ really is.
Please could you find out if there is one in Accra, Ghana.Thanks...
Love Bro. Zac Poonen! God bless him and all of God's children.
Keep on doing the good work of God,remain blessed.
Exactly. Why would God say “don’t let your left hand know what your right hand doeth” but yet you should go and let everyone see how rich you are and how much you are giving to the church on the altar.
I love the man of God Zac poonen.
This tithe is real I remember when I was not paying tithe due to my friends telling me not to pay because the pastor is the one spending the money, I heed to their advice. I work then but I can give an account of my money. Then I meant another friend who told me paying ur tithe is very good. I also headed to it, and since then my life changed. The blessing is overflowing. If u give our tithes and offerings to fake pastors u will not get any result. The soil u put ur seeds in matters. I love what u do BRR😘
Given is okay, as want.
Deuteronomy 14:23-29
Have we ever thought of church coming together to own companies, employ members and pay pastors salaries from there. Some members will be share holders.
@@ugoj9650 thanks
So u feel is what u give that make u got bless? So the death of Christ is nothing rite? Please read ur bible well don't come with ur own thoughts who is fake ND real? Money don't equal anything if God wonts money then he will get ..what do u call blessing? If it has to do with money den u are just not serious is ur life representing Jesus Christ? Do u keep the temple holy? Do u bring people to Know God what is ur purpose on earth
May God help and forgive us all. I knew there was fire on the mountain when during one meeting with a minister, someone asked a question about his views about people who gets money from dirty sources and being it to church... His response that his church needs the money because the altar will sanctify the money was shocking to me, it was just too clear to me that he doesn't have concern for whatever become of such givers because I can't relate how you'll say you need dirty money to get the gospel to unsaved people while the giver is not saved is too ironical and hypocritical. Keep it up George!
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I thank God for life brother 🙏 🙌
Thanks a lot G for this video, you killed it! Well done and May God continue to bless you. 👏👏👏👏👏❤️👏👏
I thank you my brother may the almighty God help you and bless you mush in your truth
This an eye opener, most people titth and give offering unknowing,many in fact don't go to church if they don't have anything to give,may God His people.
Such a man, Brother Zac❤
Other ministers criticized Prophet TB Joshua when he told his followers to give their tithes to the needy who are around them including their relative and not to bring tithes to his church, instead he advised his followers to give thanksgiving when they feel blessed not as a way of asking blessing or healing from God. He has his partnership program where his followers around the world were generously sending donations and the ministry has been very stable financially.. I spent a week at SCOAN and never heard any preaching about offering or tithes. My take about the tithing mentioned in the book of Malach, i of which most men of God like to use to pressurize followers into tithing is, in the old church, the needy including widows, ophanes used to be taken care by the church on the daily bases, that is why it was necessary for tithing to ensure enough stock of provisions for the needy were in place. Nowadays churches don't include provisions for the needy in the daily bases, on the contrary the need are being pressurized to give the little they have in order to be blessed. Prophet TB Joshua once said if you bring tithes to my church, I may use it on something else and it will hinder my relationship with God because the tithes are meant for the needy.
On point BRG!
Continue never mind human beings back stabbing. Expose them the more and let's see if there will no changes. Your dance steps is superb. Well done dear.
You are talking divine sense sir
some pastors will even say, give God something that will cost you, they call it sacrifice. what do u say about this
Those kinds of "pastors" ONLY want your money. They are misquoting 2 Samuel 24:24. Read the entire chaper and the one before it, for context. David had sinned by counting Israel (contrary to God's will) and needed to sacrifice to stop the plague that resulted from his naughtiness. Arauna offered his land but wise King David, knowing the plague, was his fault, refused to accept such a free gift but insisted on paying for it. Do you see this doesn't apply to how the pastor's use it? God bless you abundantly.
wow, the truth is gradually entering the christendom
Very true, the Word of God should be quoted against satan, "It is written ... " as Jesus did against the devil in Matt 4:3-11, but taught the children of God as He did on the Mount in Matt 5:1,2..
Zac Poonen is a true servant of God❤
You have spoken well, i hope the so called men of God realized it before is too late
Continue your good work buddy! YOU ARE DOING WELL!!!!!
2Cor5:21 says “ He made Him to be sin for us who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him” This is the starting point of Christianity not Tithing. Wen u realise u are the righteousness of God, u will avoid sin and focus on the love of God. Giving flows from agape love.
George, you're really trying. Thanks
I love Bro Zac Poonen , I listen to him, the Same with Bro Gbile Akanni.
I thank God for His Grace upon my live, I can't never be fooled by any man.
Man......u are too much ooooooo......God bless you .......
The founding pentecostal churches following Asuza outpouring tithed it is our interpretation
The problem is the way people now celebrate offerings and the excesses
By all means tithe give God and also give others and yourself
Let the money process in church be very simple
You don't need to apologise for your last video, nothing offensive.
I have been missing this song!
Brother George, God bless you.
When we give under pressure or grudgingly it does not bless the church , it brings curses . The church can be under a curse if people give grudgingly
Scripture does not say that God puts a church under a curse for not giving cheerfully. Scripture says God loves a cheerful giver but does not say anything about cursing us. It's important not to add to scripture because it distorts who God is.
Here to listen
My brother I must say good job, but have you check on Jehovah Witnesses ways of doing their things
@@davidalebiosu7634 I lived with JWs basic doctrine or trinity is not what they believe . I care less what they do.
hey man, being real here, i never really loved watching any of your videos, because before all i saw u do was u literally attacking men of GOD and pointing out their mistake without stating or proffering any corrective measures to it, but now i can testify you have grown spiritually and in every other way ,even your video content is beautiful. i say this becuz in this video you literally preached about the CHRIST LIKE WAY of thinking and living and how it should be done even in our time according to the bible which is what CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT, it is a way of life, Jesus way of life, and i applaud you for reminding individual why we follow JESUS CHRIST. i pray that the wisdom of our heavenly father continue to guide you as u not only reveal but also educate young ones in THE BODY OF CHRIST in the LOVE OF CHRIST JESUS himself and with the partnership of the holy spirit what being a CHRISTIAN is allabout
I wish I could impress you but that’s not my goal. There is nothing scriptural about certain conversations I have
When I was in TREM, they know when you miss your tithe and they come to remind you and not to know why you have not paid it. I think offering box should be put somewhere for people to give cheerfully. Pastor should not know the giver. Will these so called pastors make heaven? God help us.
I love your analysis.
Thanks being real George, your analysis is 💪
ORDINATION and Calling of GOD is different per individual.Ephesians 4 talks about the 5 Offices of the scriptures but his mininstry does not have but only elders because he is following what GOD told him.So his mininstry will prosper because he is following what GOD told him. TITHES AND OFFERING ARE SCRIPTURAL AND NO ONE FORCES YOU TO .HELPING THE NEEDY IS SCRIPTURAL AND NO ONE FORCES YOU TO. CHOOSE NOT TO PAY OR PAY FOR THE WORD OF GOD WILL NEVER CHANGE BUT MAN'S WISDOM OF SCRIPTURAL INTERPRETATION VARRY.
For my whole days of following your videos...
I have to comment sir.
This is what the Bible is... Deuteronomy 14:22-28
Title is not to be given to church according to my understanding.
This video has made an impact in my life Mr. George...
Thanks so much for the consistent works...
God will reward you mightily
If i have a little will still tithe. Or give offering
God is first. Over my family
We love ❤️ you too George
Thank you George
There are many that are called to ministry by their belly and quest for filty lucre or pride of life. One of the ways to spot them is their quest for money and fame.
Jesus (the word of God) is clear on this. Judiasm (the practices of the Jews under the Pharisees) is what many today are practicing and not Christianity.
As I always say may God give you more wisdom
As a man thinket in his heart so he is.
George there's a Church here in Ibadan, Nigeria that's just like this Indian Church.
They don't collect tithes
The Offering is put in a box which is placed in a Conner at the back.
The Pastor will announce the prostitutes, Yahoo, robbers, etc are not allowed to give offering
If you don't have Tfare back home, or you don't have food for your family the Church will give you as much as you need from the Offering Box
Thanks for the video
Apostolic Church in Nigeria also practice that, you don't even know who or what time money was dropped in the wall built in offering box
When they want to build, they present the plan to the church, how many bricks, cements and other materials needed for the project, you will just be seeing trucks delivering bricks, cement and other materials without knowing who sent them
If the building is a story house, on the day they cast the slab, to my surprise, you will see directors, top government officials and billionaires carrying concrete on their head, no one is big there when it comes to working in God house
Omo
This message enter me o.
am enjoying you my brother keep it up
God bless you George
I listened to the India pastor and I'm bewildered about such sacrifice for the Church. They went a long way by not accepting a dime.
However, I must say that the Bible is. Or against a pastor receiving material benefits from the church.
My brother there so called pastors and Go will hurriedly read malachi 3:8-10 , but will never read malachi 3: 1-3
YOU ARE FREE TO FOLLOW ANY PREACHER AS YOUR SPIRIT LEADS YOU AND IF YOU FIND FAULT IN THAT MAN OF GOD,YOU ARE FREE TO CHANGE AND CHOOSE.KNOW HEAVEN AND HELL ARE REAL.CEHCK YOUR LIFE IF IT IS WHAT THE WORD OF GOD TEACHES YOU TO DO.
George,check God blessed him with 4 good children.
I’m not doubting him, but my question is that if they don’t collect Tithe and offering how does his Church ⛪️ function.
They collect offering. Everyone gives whatever they can afford. No threatening or coercion or fanfare of any sort. I've listened to him for many years. Met him personally. He really is what he preaches. Humble and down to earth.
Smart question
Nice one 👍 my brother 👍
Nice piece BRG
Please what is the name of Pastor Takim church... I really love this man
This is ur best video i have ever watched
Bcos it fits your opinion
I grew up in the Apostolic Faith Church and it is same oh
More grace sir
Creflo Dollar put out an apology for receiving tides from his congregation but, the apology don't mean nothing if you don't give them their money back right. These pastors know about tithing and they know that they're not supposed to have people tithing and they're going to pay for it more will be apologizing in the future