@@SamuelSchehrer Goggins knows its not healthy, he understands that, but the thing is, he cant live any otherway. He simply cant stop when he knows he should, because thats when all his insecurities come back, because 1 more rep Goggins is better than bug spraying Goggins.
@@SamuelSchehrer that was due to altitude issues. He's did lots of yoga to come out of injuries. Ultimately he doesn't want to go back to his old fatfuck days
There's a difference between doing one more rep of bicep curls as opposed to back squats or deadlifts. Heavy compound exercises that require you to bend forwards like that are really hard on the spine. You can easily live with a bad shoulder but living with sciatica is much worse. Powerlifting and possibly oly stuff is just plain saying 'fuck you' to your back and yet ironically fitness gurus like Athlean X are warning people about dumbbell flies, which is relatively harmless. If you use your imagination a bit you can grow your lower body and erectors without any standard squats and deadlifts.
Joe should seriously have Jeff from AthleanX on his show. He could tell him how having Pavel on his show is killing his gains. Jessie and Jamie could hang out. The 4 J's!
There's a difference between one more rep because you push yourseld but you can handle it and one more rep but you really shouldn't and your form breaks down and you continually do this and create bad stress on your joints and tendons. Never sacrifice quality.
“No pain no gain & one more” has injured a lot of people and slowed the progress of a lot more. Yes you must train hard but you must also train smart! Good information
Yes, I learned the hard way. I partially dislocated my right shoulder grinding on the bench press to rerack. Twenty-five years later, I now have osteoarthritis in that shoulder. I wish I wish I had not done this. :-(
It just takes a brain, most of the average Joe's are nowhere near their max when training in a gym. The man here talks about not just professionals but champion powerlifters and bodybuilders. Our 1RM is often not our real 1 RM but rather 1TM a.k.a. Training Max meaning the weight you can push/pull on any given day you lift. When this is the case + you are really strict and disciplined with your form "one more rep" is not only not harmful but actually desirable. That's all there fuckin is about it, just be smart enough not to load the bar with some batshit crazy weight, no spotter and poor form. Most of the people training in commercial gyms are actually under-trained this is why so many people look the same year after year although seemingly doing everything right. Training at 70-90% of your 1TM not to mention 1RM and with a serious volume is not comfortable, it hurts, it can be frustrating, it can be mentally demanding and you have to not just like it but fuckin love it! And you sure as hell will not immediately injure yourself or shorten your life by 60 years by doing so. Just be smart about it, think about what you do, calculate percentages, track your progress and keep an eye on the form even if you lift for 10-20 even 30 years always be open to new suggestions, changes on your own body, new techniques, studies and all the fun that comes with it.
@Username Undertraining doesn't result in crippling injury or debilitating complications down the line though. You may not be getting so much muscle growth by undertraining, but conversely, regularly pushing past your limits to make those gains come faster is playing with fire.
Yeah but you, me and most of the people in this comment section dont have the genetics of Arnie and we also dont have the money for all those physiotherapists that he has. Keep going with this mindset and by the begining of 30 you will have your first disc prolapse
I tried Pavel's techniques and my pull-ups went from 12 to 18 in a set over a period of 3 months (I have been lifting weights for 20 years). At first it was hard to do "less" , but damn does it work, when done properly.
@@wtfkurtis well I don't know for sure no body knows but many using you tubers say and I say if he used steroids he should get his money back he trains for more than 10 years with steroid he should be 10 times his size
hiphop masterminds athlean X is a fucking dumbass. He literally contradicts himself in almost every video from the previous one. In one video he will talk shit about going to failure and in the next he says he loves it and everybody should do it. In one video he says that you can’t burn fat unless you’re in a caloric deficit and in another he says you can. In one video he says a certain workout is shit, and in another he says it’s amazing. Time and time again, from workouts to techniques, diet to programs, from breathing to form he contradicts himself. Anyone who’s spent more than five minutes actually training can see through his shit. He doesn’t know his ass from a hole In the ground. And his little boy toy that he’s been training for over a fucking year, looks like dog shit and he’s has unfettered access to this guys “knowledge”, gym and coaching.
Ronnie Coleman ignored doctors advice by getting back into training way too soon after surgeries. His mind couldn't handle taking it easy and not being as strong as he used to be. In the end his ego cost him his body, so i think he could've been a lot healthier if only he took a steadier approach to recovering(maybe even his lifting days as well).
Sometimes, there is a cost to success. You lose time with friends, miss weddings, etc. Some of the cost is physical and even mental. But, that's why there's ONLY 1 RONNIE COLEMAN. Passion turns to obsession, and most people that make it to the peak of the mountain are absolutely fucking obsessed. If Ronnie approached body building from a "healthier" standpoint, I don't think anyone would be talking about him today. My opinion.
@TheCoffeeNut711 Hello and thank you for your reply. I mostly agree with you. I look at his obsession with awe the same was I look at some Nobel prize winning scientists. Example: One neurologist sacrificed his own nerves and body function to determine symptoms from specific nerve damage. He literally removed nerves from his own body. Absolutely INSANE.. So, I wouldn't say Ronnie's road is the one to follow for success, but Holy shit it's an epic story. Jay "looks" good, but who knows. Doesn't really matter. You're comparing 2 "athletes" with very VERY different resumes. Jay had tremendous success, but so did Janet Jackson, Yohan Blake, Franco Colombo(rip), etc... There's prob better examples, but, you get my point. All these ppl were 2nd to someone else. Ronnie was /is 2nd to NONE. As a performer/competitor, you can be great, but, to be the best, you must risk life and limb, which I don't recommend. There's always something a little off about these ppl, and it makes their stories incredibly interesting and memorable. The bodybuilding profession is inherently unhealthy and it's more of an art show than a sport., and Ronnie was Picaso in his day. Again, all my opinion. Damn, now I want some coffee!
It's because he's talking about ego lifting. For instance, you should never do "One More Rep" if your last rep took 8+ seconds to complete when you were pushing as hard as possible. On the other hand, if your program accounts for 5 reps and your fourth rep was a bit more difficult than you expected you should still try to complete that fifth rep. But if that keeps happening, then you should re-evaluate your programming.
Akira Kush Yes but.... what’s common sense in regards to diet :( Or are you basically saying to trust your instincts unless otherwise given a reason not to?
Nutrition science is SCIENCE. FACTS. How could you literally have opinions that conflict with facts & science it's like guys that argue that the earth is flat 😂
@@ethanYT_1219 That is not at all true. The "FACTS" of nutrition are not clear and data can be interpreted in many ways. The science of vitamins and antioxidants is not clear at all. They do blind and double blind studies(SCIENCE) all the time but the effects of nutrition may not appear for years and is so multifaceted it is VERY hard to attribute cause and effect. You try to make it sound so simple but it's not. Your Flat Earth analogy is a poor one.
I can speak to this in my own experience. When I stopped maxing out every workout, I can do more each time because I'm not so sore, my legs feel fresher, and I'm stronger than I've ever been in my life because of the consistency. Maxing out often is pretty bad.
Why would I care how I feel when I’m 60 and old and life is about to pass me up instead of doing everything I love and desire when I’m young and healthy? Lmfao that seems idiotic. At least to me it does I never understood individuals who value living a long life more then they do living a fulfilling life
But in his book, didn’t Goggins say that you shouldn’t do it like him. Towards the end of Can’t Hurt Me, remember when he talked about how his constant “push through the pain” mentality also caused him to need all these wraps and special soles to run pain free? He even says you should develop an armored mind, but you should be smart about how you take care of your body. Makes me think that sometimes the people who are always pushing for the “one more rep” just don’t have enough mental toughness to do a regular workout consistently every single day (which counts for a lot more in the end, and you’re a lot less likely to get injured that way)
The importent difference here is that Pavel is talking about powerlifting and Joe was talking about bodybuilding were reps are essential for muscle growth.
My boyfriend has been bodybuilding for a few years now, and in the last few months, has had back and shoulders injuries from either over training or poor form, preventing him from doing resistance exercise. Because he didn't go physiotherapist when his pain first began (he basically ignored it and continued training), that came back to bite him
I take the the mentality that the body is like a car. Racing it hard ALL the time, means seriously hard maintenance (maybe even a few new parts!) Taking it easy and keeping it ticking over, occasionally having a race will keep it looking and working its best. This is at least how I train some of my guys.
I think a lot of people are misconstruing what someone like David Goggins would say about this. David Goggins would agree with our friends in the video here, he’s become really intelligent, structured, in his workouts.
He's right about maxxing out for 2-3 weeks and your strength coming back down later. I experience this cycle all the time. I usually move to do volume more next time rather than intensity
@@joshpardo8359 careful what you say, you might get banned. I just submitted a good comeback but it kept getting removed. It's sad to see this kind of censorship, I cant even shit talk online anymore
Because these people think they are training intense when they are not. They use fear of overtraining as a shield to be lazy when they aren't anywhere near that intensity.
@Marc Hlavac He's a world record holder powerlifter you idiot. He himself said that longevity and results do not go hand in hand. Training intense doesn't mean maxing out. In fact, lifting heavy isn't exactly intense, maxing out definitely isn't.
@Marc Hlavac You're right. Really this whole clip is moot bc Joe is thinking bodybuilding and sports in general rather than programming strength, while this thread is also thinking of everything but training one rep maxes for a specific day on the calender.
I've used some variation of what Pavel talks about in recent years. One thing I found (that he talks about at very end) is that even with many months away from the gym (and even a whole year when I was not able to go) I lose very little strength, and when I do go in whatever I lost I gain back pretty quickly.
Excellent advice. You cannot beat up the body all the time. From experience, and observation I have noticed that a trainee reaches a plateau after climbing upward. Then there is progression again. Just as important to careful, occasional stress on the body by exercise there has got to be adequate rest.
You can do Crossfit with Pavels attitude though. I lift with my brother occasionally, who's an older Crossfitter. He just stops when he feels like it. Not all Crossfitters egolift or compete in training. Although he probably goes closer to failure than me, but he's in better cardiovascular shape too, so Crossfit has it's upsides.
Manic Rhymes the problem is that CrossFit sacrifices form for reps. High technique lifts are taken to failure when the main objective should be to execute with perfect form
@@maciek8159 Nah, training to failure works, but it decreases the number of total reps you can do. So many people today believe in keeping everything from 1-2 or 3-6 reps in the tank and doing more total volume to get less fatigue, higher stimulus to fatigue ratio and maybe then also higher frequency and more practice with technique. There are advocates for both styles training. Submaximal training has more science-based advocates while training to failure has more bro and pro-bodybuilder advocates. Look up Mike Israetel if you want to learn more about submaximal lifting for bodybuilding.
From my experience growing up as an 80’s kid I would say hands down the number 1 reason for this “go all out, ever time” mentality is primarily from the Rocky movies or something along the same lines ie pumping iron, kick-boxer etc...
Firas Zahabi was saying the same thing as pavel and talked about Flow training on Joe's podcast. He said flow training is when for most of the time train in the 60-70% range, then once a while, prior to a tournament or a requirement to peak, to go for 100% effort. The body, for most people, surely couldn't cope with prolonged stress physiologically, mentally - that to me doesn't sound healthy. But knowing where getting to, or close to, limits is important for when you need to go into the dark place...
@@Paul-Weston in his age it´s acceptable tho...your testosterone levels are low af in your 50s...I can definetely understand taking TRT at an older age when your testosterone levels decrease drastically naturally
@@ScientologyHunter2 yeah, I'm 59, I use them myself. I think my post was in reply to someone else, I think the comment's been deleted, So it looks a bit out of context.
It depends on what you’re doing I believe. If you’re fatigued and pushing through the weight then it’s bad as you’re prone to injury. However in some cases that extra rep can make all the difference. So all I can say is train wisely, listen to your body but train hard whenever you do!
PrimitiveSecrets maybe not try to get as big. I’m an ectomorph. My joints just couldn’t take the weight over time. Certainly work on mobility. I probably wouldn’t have listened anyways. I did have an accident that dislocated my shoulder that I could not avoid. I am having a real hard time changing my mindset from a Tom Platz intensity to something suited for me. My ego got the better of me.
@@CWBush73 I see lots of people like this no offense but you're right, most people wouldnt listen and I'm part of that group. I learned very soon before training incorrectly for years. I see many people not warming up starting at their heaviest and doing deadlifts everyday and im just biting my tounge because I wanna scream stop.
@@CWBush73 Thanks for the reply. I'm in my 30s and very slowly feeling things get stiff and ache much more frequently than I used to. Been lifting since consistently since I was 16 so I'm always looking for advice as I progress in age.
There is a difference between push-through pain and pain caused by your body undergoing serious injury. Lot's of people can't tell the difference between fatigue and damage until it's too late. I know a lot of young guys with the knees and backs of 60 year olds who tried to push one more rep when they should have racked.
Strength training, which is Pavel's area of focus, and training for, primarily, hypertrophy (mass) are not the same thing though. Different methods to achieve those
@@johnmeragias1937 our body is designed to lift our bodyweight, it isn't designed to lift 1000 pounds like powerlifters or sometimes bodybuilders do. I think calisthenics is better for longevity, if you don't go balls to the wall every time.
Smart work always outplays hard work and/or talent. If you know what to do, how to do, how often, when, where etc, you'll be on the top of your competition
yeah, but the difference is, Ronnie Coleman is multiple Mr. Olympia....... this guy is NOBODY...... it doesn't matter how shattered your body will be when they put into coffin...... the important thing is, what you achieve in life...... when you know, you achieved something that's going to be remembered, then you will die a happy person, despite of the sacrafice
Very wise to not over exert to the point of bad form n injuries, when you’re young you recover faster cuz your body is at a clean slate free from injury. As you get older you can feel the years of wear and tear through out your body so it makes sense the less you damage the body as you build muscle just a bit slower but maintain healthy longevity
Ever since I read this in pavels book a few years ago my body hasn’t been in pain as it was 9 years ago, man I would beat myself up doing power-cleans and go hard but when I would get home I couldn’t sleep so much scar tissue on my shoulders that even til this day they crack like if I broke something. Now all I do is kettlebell swings with a 55 lbs kettlebell and burpees, or cleans and press with dips for 3 sets of a minute each. I feel stronger, elusive and my body isn’t hurting as it was before when I was lifting weights.
@@theundead1600 200 lbs. is a massive difference in a squat. There's only a handful of people on Earth that can squat 100 lbs. There's people who weigh under 200 lbs. that can squat 800 lbs.
Depends on your goals. Bodybuilding isn’t about setting PR numbers for weight. It’s about building an aesthetic physique. Powerlifters who are lifting crazy weights usually look like shit. Just depends on what you care about more
@@jethrotool4828 but those powerlifters lifting crazy weights have more muscle mass than most bodybuilders. The only reason they aren't aesthetic is because of their high bodyfat levels. Most bodybuilders just have ridiculous genetics and are on shit tonnes of drugs (not saying powerlifters don't because they do). Most bodybuilders can get away with shitty training.
@@jethrotool4828 I don't have an informed opinion on the science. I thought the comment was funny, although it wasn't from this interview. Tsatsouline has some great quotes out there. Btw, I like your username. Big Tull fan here.👍
Most people lack the proper caloric and nutrient intake to gain muscle. So even if they work hard they fail to realize any increases in the amount of weight they can lift. With the proper amount of protein and enough calories one can regularly hit new PRs. However, if you want to be and/or stay lean then setting new PRs is going to be a long drawn out process.
It would be amazing to see Doug McGuff give his perspective on these topics with Joe. HIT is pretty simple, time efficient and you go to failure on 5 - 8 different weight lifting machines with a 3 to 10 day rest period in between. Strength is gradually increased as is your rest period.
I mainly do strength training and i totally agree with this, i was able to increase my squat from 120 or 30 something to 320 amd i did that within a span of 7 months of working out, by reading up on nutrition and technique and breathing and all that, and it was because i gave it my all when i was doing my max of course (when it mattered). Like i am so into working out to a point where can i say this.... i would rather do 1 rep correctly than 2 more reps incorrectly. The minute i can't do it correctly i stop and rest so i can do it correctly for my next set or whatever. That's why i look at buff people who have been working out for 4 years can only bench 240 being a meat head and saying one more and he's using every thing but his chest and shoulders and arms shaking back cracking while I'm here benching 225 as my max while working out for only a year and the first time i benched it was 120 i think as well but it's all because i gave it my all when it mattered. So that's my little story😅
the only time i have made improvements in my physique and my strength or endurance was by pushing past the wall and getting that "one more rep" only to add another on the next time I have the will to do so.
Memes aside, he's one of the most disciplined and consistent lifters out there. 35 years straight, no injuries or chronic health issues, looks 20 years younger than he is. It's almost even more impressive if he's been on the juice all that time. If you watch his videos he's always talking about training for longevity (i.e. smarter not harder). Results speak for themselves.
Its really self sabotage. The gym is a ridiculous concept in the first place. Humans are supposed to do these things outdoors, climb trees, surf, hike. Imagine if aliens saw humans at the gym, they would be thinking, wtf are these idiots doing.
@@missionpupa Weight lifting is part of our culture,it is a sport, it is about looks and performance, by your logic it would mean that people playing football are idiots too because they are running for no reason.
Its funny. Because its not what you would expect. Goggins would totally agree with him, Goggins injured himself so much and with multiple surgeries, he knows the toll and what he does is not healthy, hes said this a million times, you dont have to train like him. So, you ask. Why does he do it anyway? Because hes David fuckin Goggins.
@@missionpupa I think David Goggins would also agree on the methodical preparation for maximum performance in competition. I'm reminded of his several attempts and eventual success at the pullup record. Staying the course and being disciplined is a kind of mental toughness in itself.
I think this is gold. Unlike all the other stuff on the internet. The approach of doing more everytime doesn't work, and you know it if you tried it. You'll hit a plateau. Wave ciclyng is a great approach for not only lifting but for other stuff in life too. Always pushing hard is not that smart, you'll consume yourself, regardless of how much energy you have. Even if you had a lot. Alternating hard period and softer period is smart. That's not avoiding hard work, that's working hard but smarter.
Sometimes I feel there is just too much info available which renders people confused to what is right and they don't even start working out in that confusion
I agree with this guy for the most part but there are a couple things to acknowledge that are not mentioned. They don't go against what he was saying. Ronnie Coleman, Eddie Coen, Franco Columbu these guys trained literally almost there whole lives (franco may have slowed but i doubt he was 100% sedentary at the end) and so for the average guy to pick up a weight at 25 and try to compete with ronnie coleman who had supreme genetics and had been training since he was 12 there's no comparison, they took anabolics and responded well. Also and most interestingly all three of those guys mentioned trained instinctively. If you listen to their approach you'll hear about them saying "because that felt right" "i ate because i saw it working" eddie constantly talks about getting into a position that feels right and dont let anyone not even him tell you its wrong etc
I believe in following programs. But I also believe if you feel good push yourself. If you physically need a break take one. 2 days off is better than 2 weeks. Listen to your body and follow your plan the best you can.
These days I'm even afraid I'm breathing wrong
@The Shitstorm Starter best 5 minutes of your day coming up with that joke
well, do you primarily breathe out of your nose or mouth?
@@JKline my mouth but I know I should be primarily through my nose . Not easy
@@dannypacini9820 , mouth breather. You've eaten about half dozen spiders in your sleep so far.
You are, I am, we all are.
Goggins is somewhere screaming at a pedestrian on a run right now.
This had me dead. Love that man!!!
David Goggins put himself in the hospital during his last race, that shit ain’t healthy
@@SamuelSchehrer Goggins knows its not healthy, he understands that, but the thing is, he cant live any otherway. He simply cant stop when he knows he should, because thats when all his insecurities come back, because 1 more rep Goggins is better than bug spraying Goggins.
@@SamuelSchehrer that was due to altitude issues. He's did lots of yoga to come out of injuries. Ultimately he doesn't want to go back to his old fatfuck days
"who's gonna lift the logs....and the boats!!"
*David Goggins has entered the chat*
This guy ain't gonna carry the boats!
@@to_to150 AND THE LOGS
Edit: *Its Kamuro*
@@to_to150 WHOS GONNA CARRY THE BOATS?!
@@aceplayys7847 AND THE LOGS?
@@aceplayys7847 WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE BOATS?
People :1 more rep is bad for you
Bros in the gym : That is why no body is going to remember your name
AQILZ people: I take creatine.
Bros in the gym: 500mg of Test Cyponate, 30 d bol, HGH, sustinon, deca and some anti estrogen.
RIPRO SAFETY 😂😂😂
Achilles never went to the gym......
If you spend your life trying to be remembered then you will forget who you are.
There's a difference between doing one more rep of bicep curls as opposed to back squats or deadlifts. Heavy compound exercises that require you to bend forwards like that are really hard on the spine. You can easily live with a bad shoulder but living with sciatica is much worse. Powerlifting and possibly oly stuff is just plain saying 'fuck you' to your back and yet ironically fitness gurus like Athlean X are warning people about dumbbell flies, which is relatively harmless. If you use your imagination a bit you can grow your lower body and erectors without any standard squats and deadlifts.
Joe should seriously have Jeff from AthleanX on his show. He could tell him how having Pavel on his show is killing his gains. Jessie and Jamie could hang out. The 4 J's!
This would be awesome..
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
Joe only respects natural athletes. He wouldn't have him on the show.
tom cats Jeff is definitely natty
@@tom6567 Jeff is natural ...
I'd love to see Jeff Caveliere from Athlean-X on the podcast.
Caspar Bosch it's time joe
You mean jason blaha
He would have to switch seats with Joe in the middle of the podcast to avoid imbalance
I agree 100%!
@@goat5480 lmao spot on dude.
There's a difference between one more rep because you push yourseld but you can handle it and one more rep but you really shouldn't and your form breaks down and you continually do this and create bad stress on your joints and tendons. Never sacrifice quality.
Spot on. 100% true.
Forreal idk where they were getting with this😂
Could have saved 11 minutes by just saying that.
I'm glad someone said it
so true. If your technics during excercise breaks that mean you should stop.
“No pain no gain & one more” has injured a lot of people and slowed the progress of a lot more. Yes you must train hard but you must also train smart! Good information
Yes, I learned the hard way. I partially dislocated my right shoulder grinding on the bench press to rerack. Twenty-five years later, I now have osteoarthritis in that shoulder. I wish I wish I had not done this. :-(
It just takes a brain, most of the average Joe's are nowhere near their max when training in a gym. The man here talks about not just professionals but champion powerlifters and bodybuilders. Our 1RM is often not our real 1 RM but rather 1TM a.k.a. Training Max meaning the weight you can push/pull on any given day you lift. When this is the case + you are really strict and disciplined with your form "one more rep" is not only not harmful but actually desirable. That's all there fuckin is about it, just be smart enough not to load the bar with some batshit crazy weight, no spotter and poor form.
Most of the people training in commercial gyms are actually under-trained this is why so many people look the same year after year although seemingly doing everything right. Training at 70-90% of your 1TM not to mention 1RM and with a serious volume is not comfortable, it hurts, it can be frustrating, it can be mentally demanding and you have to not just like it but fuckin love it! And you sure as hell will not immediately injure yourself or shorten your life by 60 years by doing so.
Just be smart about it, think about what you do, calculate percentages, track your progress and keep an eye on the form even if you lift for 10-20 even 30 years always be open to new suggestions, changes on your own body, new techniques, studies and all the fun that comes with it.
@Username Undertraining doesn't result in crippling injury or debilitating complications down the line though. You may not be getting so much muscle growth by undertraining, but conversely, regularly pushing past your limits to make those gains come faster is playing with fire.
@ZMan1471 Yes
You must also know what your doing, and if you do, do one more... well done.
Wait till this guy hears about the Rich Pianas 8-hour arm workout...
That's exactly why Rich is dead
@@SundownTE beside copious amounts of steroids and supplements
Jesus
@@NightHoundd11 exactly
it sounds like hes trying to fuck em up
One thing that they forgot to mention about Clarence is that "he lives at home with both parents and Clarence parents have a real good marriage"
@John Burton star wars? Try 8 mile
b rabbit 😇🤟
hahaha
Lol
John Burton what kind of crack are you smoking?
Joe “Meatheads are my people” Rogan
Natty Fatty Powerlifting HEY! I’ve seen you in the comments somewhere else!
I didn't get the memo that Deep V's are back in style
Joe always be like: "One more rep" when taking hits of DMT.
@The Shitstorm Starter They love to touch my hairy legs... then they taught me about roaches
Dimethyltrytamine is actually a good drug to take if you're not scared of your own conscience.
“One more rip”
@The Shitstorm Starter
I look god in the eyes when I ejaculate.
It's the only way to keep dominance.
Plus it's a good way to stay in shape.
“I push past the last rep. I want to feel the pain. The pain is good. I don’t mind even if I pass out in the gym.” .... Arnold Schwarzenegger
Yeah but you, me and most of the people in this comment section dont have the genetics of Arnie and we also dont have the money for all those physiotherapists that he has. Keep going with this mindset and by the begining of 30 you will have your first disc prolapse
Back when taking your vitamins meant steroids.
Arnold wasn't competing in strength sports
Don Ochoa if you are natural please don’t follow this advice. You need to be juicing heavy to be able to take that amount of working volume
@@n3coreGames Arnold did powerlifting look it up
*Why does he look like what I imagine Joe rogan to be like if he was Handsome Squid-ward?*
Ouch
BILLY BOB JOE ANIMATIONS squiliam
Literally one of the best UA-cam comments I’ve read in a while!!!! 😂🤣 thanks for the laugh!
I think joe meant to say * “Shiny heads are my people”
@ZERO SOLACE rage on grrl ... lol ...
Sleeping Beauty must get herest ... Yawnz"s lol you're blach♥ etc dreamn of homework ra ra ..... ..m.... xoxo
SOUTHPAW s wtf?
Yep David goggins, James Wilks, Pavel tsatsouline and himself.
@@conways3897 ceasefire!☆☆☆☆*"
Shiny Happy People
David goggins: who is gonna carry the logs and the boats
Dude military programs are like high school programs. People get injured a lot.
@@jakeblaze7663 that's some poopy pants mentality. Stay hard.
I tried Pavel's techniques and my pull-ups went from 12 to 18 in a set over a period of 3 months (I have been lifting weights for 20 years). At first it was hard to do "less" , but damn does it work, when done properly.
keep doing you bro ❤
Joe bring Jeff"athlean x'' it is time
@Ty Thomas Boxing Training think you have the wrong Jeff in mind
He looks like a steroid user.
@Ty Thomas Boxing Training I think he is the only guy on the Internet that does no such thing and is the guy that cleans all the rests bullshit up
@@wtfkurtis well I don't know for sure no body knows but many using you tubers say and I say if he used steroids he should get his money back he trains for more than 10 years with steroid he should be 10 times his size
hiphop masterminds athlean X is a fucking dumbass. He literally contradicts himself in almost every video from the previous one.
In one video he will talk shit about going to failure and in the next he says he loves it and everybody should do it.
In one video he says that you can’t burn fat unless you’re in a caloric deficit and in another he says you can. In one video he says a certain workout is shit, and in another he says it’s amazing.
Time and time again, from workouts to techniques, diet to programs, from breathing to form he contradicts himself. Anyone who’s spent more than five minutes actually training can see through his shit.
He doesn’t know his ass from a hole
In the ground. And his little boy toy that he’s been training for over a fucking year, looks like dog shit and he’s has unfettered access to this guys “knowledge”, gym and coaching.
It looks like Joe is talking to a leaner version of himself
Ronnie Coleman ignored doctors advice by getting back into training way too soon after surgeries. His mind couldn't handle taking it easy and not being as strong as he used to be. In the end his ego cost him his body, so i think he could've been a lot healthier if only he took a steadier approach to recovering(maybe even his lifting days as well).
Light weight baby, nothing to it but to do it...yeah buddy!
Ronnie coleman broke his back twice before even placing at the olympia...
We all love Ronnie for his passion, but it's NOT an example for the whole mankind to follow, no matter how many "Olympias" he had.
Sometimes, there is a cost to success. You lose time with friends, miss weddings, etc. Some of the cost is physical and even mental. But, that's why there's ONLY 1 RONNIE COLEMAN. Passion turns to obsession, and most people that make it to the peak of the mountain are absolutely fucking obsessed. If Ronnie approached body building from a "healthier" standpoint, I don't think anyone would be talking about him today. My opinion.
@TheCoffeeNut711 Hello and thank you for your reply. I mostly agree with you. I look at his obsession with awe the same was I look at some Nobel prize winning scientists. Example: One neurologist sacrificed his own nerves and body function to determine symptoms from specific nerve damage. He literally removed nerves from his own body. Absolutely INSANE.. So, I wouldn't say Ronnie's road is the one to follow for success, but Holy shit it's an epic story. Jay "looks" good, but who knows. Doesn't really matter. You're comparing 2 "athletes" with very VERY different resumes. Jay had tremendous success, but so did Janet Jackson, Yohan Blake, Franco Colombo(rip), etc... There's prob better examples, but, you get my point. All these ppl were 2nd to someone else. Ronnie was /is 2nd to NONE. As a performer/competitor, you can be great, but, to be the best, you must risk life and limb, which I don't recommend. There's always something a little off about these ppl, and it makes their stories incredibly interesting and memorable. The bodybuilding profession is inherently unhealthy and it's more of an art show than a sport., and Ronnie was Picaso in his day. Again, all my opinion. Damn, now I want some coffee!
not 1 more rep 5 MORE REPS - Tom platz
😂😂😂 yessss
This is like nutrition science, so many conflicting opinions
It's because he's talking about ego lifting. For instance, you should never do "One More Rep" if your last rep took 8+ seconds to complete when you were pushing as hard as possible. On the other hand, if your program accounts for 5 reps and your fourth rep was a bit more difficult than you expected you should still try to complete that fifth rep. But if that keeps happening, then you should re-evaluate your programming.
Akira Kush Yes but.... what’s common sense in regards to diet
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Or are you basically saying to trust your instincts unless otherwise given a reason not to?
Nutrition science is SCIENCE. FACTS. How could you literally have opinions that conflict with facts & science it's like guys that argue that the earth is flat 😂
@@ethanYT_1219 That is not at all true. The "FACTS" of nutrition are not clear and data can be interpreted in many ways. The science of vitamins and antioxidants is not clear at all. They do blind and double blind studies(SCIENCE) all the time but the effects of nutrition may not appear for years and is so multifaceted it is VERY hard to attribute cause and effect. You try to make it sound so simple but it's not. Your Flat Earth analogy is a poor one.
@@j-r-m7775 I can assure you that the science of vitamins and antioxidants is far from what i meant, I was simply pertaining to food & nutrition
I can speak to this in my own experience. When I stopped maxing out every workout, I can do more each time because I'm not so sore, my legs feel fresher, and I'm stronger than I've ever been in my life because of the consistency.
Maxing out often is pretty bad.
I would agree with that principle. Especially when you get to higher weights, it is really rough on the joints!
These days I'm even afraid of typing too long with same thumb.
Talbot Pule imbalance man
@@redbloodedamerican2743 Lol dude's triggered
Redblooded American Who pissed in your cheerios? Damn..
SisckoGames no it’s just you fuckin losers are all exactly the same. It’s annoying as fuck.
@@redbloodedamerican2743 Welcome to the internet buddy. I'm sure you're new keep getting piss no one will care
"Joe, please excuse me I am going to interrupt you for a second."
That folks, is alpha.
Nah that’s just being polite lmao
Yes obviously, but people care more about how they look on the outside then how they will end up 20-30 years down the line
Why would I care how I feel when I’m 60 and old and life is about to pass me up instead of doing everything I love and desire when I’m young and healthy? Lmfao that seems idiotic. At least to me it does I never understood individuals who value living a long life more then they do living a fulfilling life
@@mackbach7585 🤦
I am Nemo idk what your point is. Regardless though my statement stands
@@mackbach7585 lol ok haha😆🤦
I am Nemo so you rather live a long but boring life instead of a shorter but more intense and fulfilling life? Honest question I’m actually curious
I read Pavel's power to the people book in 2001, he's a great strength coach.
This is what David Goggins would call "Poopie pants mentality".
1000000% 😂😂😂😂
This is about weightlifting not endurance training moron
@@James-fh1un Ok, you beautiful imbecile. Listen to Goggins some more, maybe you'll get the point which clearly missed you.
Nah I’d rather strong and built like David Riggert that look like anorexic soy boy goggins
But in his book, didn’t Goggins say that you shouldn’t do it like him. Towards the end of Can’t Hurt Me, remember when he talked about how his constant “push through the pain” mentality also caused him to need all these wraps and special soles to run pain free? He even says you should develop an armored mind, but you should be smart about how you take care of your body.
Makes me think that sometimes the people who are always pushing for the “one more rep” just don’t have enough mental toughness to do a regular workout consistently every single day (which counts for a lot more in the end, and you’re a lot less likely to get injured that way)
The importent difference here is that Pavel is talking about powerlifting and Joe was talking about bodybuilding were reps are essential for muscle growth.
Also reps in body building are done with lighter weight.
Pretty much no one sane and healthy is doing low reps compound lifts all the time just for hypertrophy
Ronnie coleman was a powerlifting bodybuilder though. He was lifting hundreds of kgs
My boyfriend has been bodybuilding for a few years now, and in the last few months, has had back and shoulders injuries from either over training or poor form, preventing him from doing resistance exercise. Because he didn't go physiotherapist when his pain first began (he basically ignored it and continued training), that came back to bite him
I take the the mentality that the body is like a car. Racing it hard ALL the time, means seriously hard maintenance (maybe even a few new parts!)
Taking it easy and keeping it ticking over, occasionally having a race will keep it looking and working its best.
This is at least how I train some of my guys.
This guy's forehead has a solid circular plate on the front wtf
It's the same plate that's present on the Predator.
Now I can not unsee it
I just noticed it and cannot un see it
1234512 hahahahaha same!
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I think a lot of people are misconstruing what someone like David Goggins would say about this. David Goggins would agree with our friends in the video here, he’s become really intelligent, structured, in his workouts.
He's right about maxxing out for 2-3 weeks and your strength coming back down later. I experience this cycle all the time. I usually move to do volume more next time rather than intensity
Switch exercises after two weeks. Westside barbell method.
Roe Jogan is offering some valid points about weight lifting
Neo Mashego 🤣🤣
Never thought Captain Picard would be teaching me how to build my traps...
ENGAGE
Resistance is futile.
Lift speed is Warp 6
This is the definition of "Train smarter not harder"
Nontas Georgoulias you train like a pussy
i train both smarter and harder.
@@joshpardo8359 careful what you say, you might get banned. I just submitted a good comeback but it kept getting removed. It's sad to see this kind of censorship, I cant even shit talk online anymore
Idc care what you said you actually need to force a muscle to grow by pushing harder so it can be able to adapt
@@joshpardo8359 meathead detected
Greg Doucette wouldnt agree with these comments.
TRAIN HARDER !!!!!!!!
Because these people think they are training intense when they are not. They use fear of overtraining as a shield to be lazy when they aren't anywhere near that intensity.
@@harleyzeth right? Im doing 531 bbb and it's 20% of my max training capacity. Im never tired but i limit it to that bc of school and job.
@Marc Hlavac He's a world record holder powerlifter you idiot. He himself said that longevity and results do not go hand in hand. Training intense doesn't mean maxing out. In fact, lifting heavy isn't exactly intense, maxing out definitely isn't.
@Marc Hlavac You're right. Really this whole clip is moot bc Joe is thinking bodybuilding and sports in general rather than programming strength, while this thread is also thinking of everything but training one rep maxes for a specific day on the calender.
I've used some variation of what Pavel talks about in recent years. One thing I found (that he talks about at very end) is that even with many months away from the gym (and even a whole year when I was not able to go) I lose very little strength, and when I do go in whatever I lost I gain back pretty quickly.
Get Dom Mazetti on the podcast
The podcast is too long... He would go anabolic & umdertrain
Bruh LOL I was about to comment that
Excellent advice. You cannot beat up the body all the time. From experience, and observation I have noticed that a trainee reaches a plateau after climbing upward. Then there is progression again. Just as important to careful, occasional stress on the body by exercise there has got to be adequate rest.
He’s basically saying don’t do CrossFit, which I agree with, it’s too rough on the body. You’re doing lifts that aren’t meant to be done to failure
You can do Crossfit with Pavels attitude though. I lift with my brother occasionally, who's an older Crossfitter. He just stops when he feels like it. Not all Crossfitters egolift or compete in training. Although he probably goes closer to failure than me, but he's in better cardiovascular shape too, so Crossfit has it's upsides.
perman07 I’m confused. I go to failure on all my weight lifting exercises except dead lifts. Am I training wrong?
Manic Rhymes the problem is that CrossFit sacrifices form for reps. High technique lifts are taken to failure when the main objective should be to execute with perfect form
@@maciek8159 Nah, training to failure works, but it decreases the number of total reps you can do. So many people today believe in keeping everything from 1-2 or 3-6 reps in the tank and doing more total volume to get less fatigue, higher stimulus to fatigue ratio and maybe then also higher frequency and more practice with technique.
There are advocates for both styles training. Submaximal training has more science-based advocates while training to failure has more bro and pro-bodybuilder advocates. Look up Mike Israetel if you want to learn more about submaximal lifting for bodybuilding.
I did CrossFit for 10 years in the Army and was in great shape.
From my experience growing up as an 80’s kid I would say hands down the number 1 reason for this “go all out, ever time” mentality is primarily from the Rocky movies or something along the same lines ie pumping iron, kick-boxer etc...
I wish I’d heard this 40 years ago.
-OY3AH ! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 10/10
Finally he's on!
I wanna see strongman Brian Shaw on the podcast!
Zack Wakely I’ve seen the majority of your comments and just stop there all shit
iHoldPeeks. Hahaha
JuiceHead
Bonkerr. *they’re
I was thinking the same for last few days.It makes your simple work feel arduous. Only consistency matters!
Firas Zahabi was saying the same thing as pavel and talked about Flow training on Joe's podcast. He said flow training is when for most of the time train in the 60-70% range, then once a while, prior to a tournament or a requirement to peak, to go for 100% effort. The body, for most people, surely couldn't cope with prolonged stress physiologically, mentally - that to me doesn't sound healthy. But knowing where getting to, or close to, limits is important for when you need to go into the dark place...
Ive got his DVD from like 2000 somewhere. Never watched it. 😪 this girl gave it to me
He pretty much corroborates the Flow Training of Farid Zahabi
Royce Coco That’s awesome, I’m happy to hear you’re back at it and you are enjoying yourself again 💪🏽🔥
firas.. not farid
Joe will have David Goggins on the next day and say this approach is lazy
Haha hes def an agree-er with all his guests
Goggins is all about mindset. He knows nothing about sport science
I am impressed by Joes’ use of four letter expletives! It’s so real and genuine! Thanks Joe!
Unfortunately sports science, discipline and general health are last on the list for bros. Steroids and IG likes are first. 👍
I'm afraid you're right..............There's a big difference between being a bro and being fit and healthy...
Joe Rogan uses steroids. TRT, he often talks about it.
Bitch ass!
@@Paul-Weston in his age it´s acceptable tho...your testosterone levels are low af in your 50s...I can definetely understand taking TRT at an older age when your testosterone levels decrease drastically naturally
@@ScientologyHunter2 yeah, I'm 59, I use them myself.
I think my post was in reply to someone else, I think the comment's been deleted, So it looks a bit out of context.
Larry Wheels has entered the chat......
One more beer is for longevity
It depends on what you’re doing I believe. If you’re fatigued and pushing through the weight then it’s bad as you’re prone to injury. However in some cases that extra rep can make all the difference. So all I can say is train wisely, listen to your body but train hard whenever you do!
46, lifted for 30 years hard and I am constantly injured. I never wanted to be like this.
What would you have done different?
PrimitiveSecrets maybe not try to get as big. I’m an ectomorph. My joints just couldn’t take the weight over time. Certainly work on mobility. I probably wouldn’t have listened anyways. I did have an accident that dislocated my shoulder that I could not avoid. I am having a real hard time changing my mindset from a Tom Platz intensity to something suited for me. My ego got the better of me.
@@hybridresistance that's a very good questions
@@CWBush73 I see lots of people like this no offense but you're right, most people wouldnt listen and I'm part of that group. I learned very soon before training incorrectly for years. I see many people not warming up starting at their heaviest and doing deadlifts everyday and im just biting my tounge because I wanna scream stop.
@@CWBush73 Thanks for the reply. I'm in my 30s and very slowly feeling things get stiff and ache much more frequently than I used to. Been lifting since consistently since I was 16 so I'm always looking for advice as I progress in age.
There is a difference between push-through pain and pain caused by your body undergoing serious injury. Lot's of people can't tell the difference between fatigue and damage until it's too late. I know a lot of young guys with the knees and backs of 60 year olds who tried to push one more rep when they should have racked.
Thank you guys you really instructed me.
I don’t ever want to be a body builder . But I found this chat to be super entertaining
Strength training, which is Pavel's area of focus, and training for, primarily, hypertrophy (mass) are not the same thing though. Different methods to achieve those
Just do calisthenics you will be ripped, lean and theres no damage on your body
@@xavv lol
@@xavv weightlifting is good for bone density
@@johnmeragias1937 our body is designed to lift our bodyweight, it isn't designed to lift 1000 pounds like powerlifters or sometimes bodybuilders do. I think calisthenics is better for longevity, if you don't go balls to the wall every time.
Yeah I feel you but we trying to get ripped!
Weightlifters are not bodybuilders talking about 2 different types of goals and training mechanics.
Robert Saladino he addresses this in the full podcast.
Robert Saladino exactly
This applies perfectly into bodybuilding. Stimulus to fatigue ratio.
Same difference. Same advise applies
True words. It took me many years to figure it out.
Smart work always outplays hard work and/or talent. If you know what to do, how to do, how often, when, where etc, you'll be on the top of your competition
Ronnie Coleman might disagree but from his motorized scooter.
yeah, but the difference is, Ronnie Coleman is multiple Mr. Olympia....... this guy is NOBODY...... it doesn't matter how shattered your body will be when they put into coffin...... the important thing is, what you achieve in life...... when you know, you achieved something that's going to be remembered, then you will die a happy person, despite of the sacrafice
@@itkojecockot I'd rather be a nobody and have my health.
badger badger you actually are a nobody already
@@Insaniya.humanity I'm healthy too.
@@cd6662 yeah, you're a healthy nobody..... congrats :D:D
Very wise to not over exert to the point of bad form n injuries, when you’re young you recover faster cuz your body is at a clean slate free from injury. As you get older you can feel the years of wear and tear through out your body so it makes sense the less you damage the body as you build muscle just a bit slower but maintain healthy longevity
slow motion and low weight has always been my thing when it comes to lifting things
Erisi Dlarit Equals zero gains
This man is going in and out of his accent
LMAO bro why'd you say that? Now I can't get that out of my head
In his videos from wayyy back in the day he would always say "comrade" and talk like Yakov Smirnoff. The mans a fucking caricature.
I didnt even notice. Now i cant stop noticing LMAO
The accent sounds faker than when he talks without it.
matt smith He is actually American, I dont hear any other accent
I love how this conversation matches the one with Firas Zahabi. Almost exactly
Ronnie Coleman messed himself up by working out while he was supposed to be recovering from surgery.
Why did he need surgery in the first place?
Yes. Even after multiple surgeries, he would work out before being completely healed!
@@jwatson181 wow, that's terrible
People dont realise he was mentally ill. Nobody becomes mr olympia without mental illness.
Ever since I read this in pavels book a few years ago my body hasn’t been in pain as it was 9 years ago, man I would beat myself up doing power-cleans and go hard but when I would get home I couldn’t sleep so much scar tissue on my shoulders that even til this day they crack like if I broke something. Now all I do is kettlebell swings with a 55 lbs kettlebell and burpees, or cleans and press with dips for 3 sets of a minute each. I feel stronger, elusive and my body isn’t hurting as it was before when I was lifting weights.
Kirk Karwoski was huge, but nowhere near Rinnie's size. But Ronnie never squatted 1000 pounds like Captain Kirk.
He did 800lbs i belive. Thats close.
@@theundead1600 200 lbs. is a massive difference in a squat. There's only a handful of people on Earth that can squat 100 lbs. There's people who weigh under 200 lbs. that can squat 800 lbs.
@@theundead1600 he had a squat suit on to do that though.
I think the old guys knew how to listen to their bodies and train accordingly
Less dudebros?
Is this the guy that firas zahabi was talking about the first time he was on this podcast?
Pretty sure it is
Yessir
Yes it was.
@Ken Say oh hell yeah i dont lift😂
@@Herfinnur alright thanks
Pavel Tsatsouline: "If training to failure is so great, then why has your bench been stuck at 185 since Arnold's first movie?"
Depends on your goals. Bodybuilding isn’t about setting PR numbers for weight. It’s about building an aesthetic physique. Powerlifters who are lifting crazy weights usually look like shit. Just depends on what you care about more
@@jethrotool4828 but those powerlifters lifting crazy weights have more muscle mass than most bodybuilders. The only reason they aren't aesthetic is because of their high bodyfat levels. Most bodybuilders just have ridiculous genetics and are on shit tonnes of drugs (not saying powerlifters don't because they do). Most bodybuilders can get away with shitty training.
@@jethrotool4828 I don't have an informed opinion on the science. I thought the comment was funny, although it wasn't from this interview. Tsatsouline has some great quotes out there. Btw, I like your username. Big Tull fan here.👍
Most people lack the proper caloric and nutrient intake to gain muscle. So even if they work hard they fail to realize any increases in the amount of weight they can lift. With the proper amount of protein and enough calories one can regularly hit new PRs. However, if you want to be and/or stay lean then setting new PRs is going to be a long drawn out process.
@@HenchPig no they have not. Compare the biggest Powerlifters with the biggest bodybuilders. Huge difference.
It would be amazing to see Doug McGuff give his perspective on these topics with Joe. HIT is pretty simple, time efficient and you go to failure on 5 - 8 different weight lifting machines with a 3 to 10 day rest period in between. Strength is gradually increased as is your rest period.
The question Joe should’ve asked:
How do we channel that 1-More-Rep mentality into something physically and physiologically more productive?
I mainly do strength training and i totally agree with this, i was able to increase my squat from 120 or 30 something to 320 amd i did that within a span of 7 months of working out, by reading up on nutrition and technique and breathing and all that, and it was because i gave it my all when i was doing my max of course (when it mattered). Like i am so into working out to a point where can i say this.... i would rather do 1 rep correctly than 2 more reps incorrectly. The minute i can't do it correctly i stop and rest so i can do it correctly for my next set or whatever. That's why i look at buff people who have been working out for 4 years can only bench 240 being a meat head and saying one more and he's using every thing but his chest and shoulders and arms shaking back cracking while I'm here benching 225 as my max while working out for only a year and the first time i benched it was 120 i think as well but it's all because i gave it my all when it mattered. So that's my little story😅
damn thats awesome 320 from 120
The start low then slowly add works. I went from a 65 pound bench to 300 after an auto crash
@@snatchblock3778 my respect man💪, that's crazy
@@snatchblock3778 ❤
Great info
Get Jeff Cavaliere on the podcast
Eddie Coan always kept extra reps in the tank.
Honestly I think that the biggest problem is that people go to the gym and don't train hard enough
Great vid.
the only time i have made improvements in my physique and my strength or endurance was by pushing past the wall and getting that "one more rep" only to add another on the next time I have the will to do so.
I caught that quick shout out to Mike O'Tren 😂
Memes aside, he's one of the most disciplined and consistent lifters out there. 35 years straight, no injuries or chronic health issues, looks 20 years younger than he is. It's almost even more impressive if he's been on the juice all that time. If you watch his videos he's always talking about training for longevity (i.e. smarter not harder). Results speak for themselves.
@@MrFreeGman you're not wrong. I follow him closely. He's probably my favorite guy in the industry.
By this thinking I won’t be able to walk by 30 lol
Think i just figured out why my back muscle are f'ed up, at 45 just got 2 new shoulders, and next is hip surgery. FML
Its really self sabotage. The gym is a ridiculous concept in the first place. Humans are supposed to do these things outdoors, climb trees, surf, hike. Imagine if aliens saw humans at the gym, they would be thinking, wtf are these idiots doing.
@@missionpupa Weight lifting is part of our culture,it is a sport, it is about looks and performance, by your logic it would mean that people playing football are idiots too because they are running for no reason.
Let’s get some gains bro!!!!
I love the Firaz Podcast it brings a lot of information and sense
I’d pay to see david goggins join in on this lmfao see his reaction to this
Its funny. Because its not what you would expect. Goggins would totally agree with him, Goggins injured himself so much and with multiple surgeries, he knows the toll and what he does is not healthy, hes said this a million times, you dont have to train like him. So, you ask. Why does he do it anyway? Because hes David fuckin Goggins.
Feralz agreed.
@@missionpupa I think David Goggins would also agree on the methodical preparation for maximum performance in competition. I'm reminded of his several attempts and eventual success at the pullup record. Staying the course and being disciplined is a kind of mental toughness in itself.
Lol you do not know Goggins at all. You poser lol.
Why hasn’t Stan Efferding been on the podcast yet?
Facts get him onnnn
Too.busy making more monster mash
I think this is gold. Unlike all the other stuff on the internet. The approach of doing more everytime doesn't work, and you know it if you tried it. You'll hit a plateau. Wave ciclyng is a great approach for not only lifting but for other stuff in life too. Always pushing hard is not that smart, you'll consume yourself, regardless of how much energy you have. Even if you had a lot. Alternating hard period and softer period is smart. That's not avoiding hard work, that's working hard but smarter.
Sometimes I feel there is just too much info available which renders people confused to what is right and they don't even start working out in that confusion
The confidence from a guy that knows he can kick ass. I want some
I agree with this guy for the most part but there are a couple things to acknowledge that are not mentioned. They don't go against what he was saying. Ronnie Coleman, Eddie Coen, Franco Columbu these guys trained literally almost there whole lives (franco may have slowed but i doubt he was 100% sedentary at the end) and so for the average guy to pick up a weight at 25 and try to compete with ronnie coleman who had supreme genetics and had been training since he was 12 there's no comparison, they took anabolics and responded well. Also and most interestingly all three of those guys mentioned trained instinctively. If you listen to their approach you'll hear about them saying "because that felt right" "i ate because i saw it working" eddie constantly talks about getting into a position that feels right and dont let anyone not even him tell you its wrong etc
this applies to running too; working hard is good, straining to the breaking point in workouts isn't
Your content is amazing
Ed Coan's had his hips replaced
What's wrong with the pec deck?
Pavel is a bloody legend!
I believe in following programs. But I also believe if you feel good push yourself. If you physically need a break take one. 2 days off is better than 2 weeks. Listen to your body and follow your plan the best you can.
I did not know Jean Luc Piccard was a fitness guru.