2 Chess Cheaters BATTLE TO DEATH
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I've decided after watching this video, that rather than being banned, cheaters should just be condemned to only ever play against other cheaters for all eternity
True that’s be fun and then they’d probably have more fun with worthier opponents
This might be the best idea I've ever heard lol
There is 69 likes
Some games do that actually, the results are laughable.
@@bigboi0 Thats fucking rich. I think rockstar also did that once with cheaters where they only got into lobbies with other cheaters in one of their games. I forget what its called.
FINALLY ITS BACK, THE REVIVAL OF THE OG SERIES
First cheater episode since the Dewa Kipas controversy right?
"og"
What's OG
@@harishsp7152 original
the impromptu Computer Chess Championship series
Levy - “we are making computer cheaters waste minutes and minutes of their lives”
Me watching the unedited footage of the game 🙃
*almost unedited: there was a cut at 11:35 and 11:39
@@mantas_birskus that's sad the guy above us wasted 5 seconds so sad 😢
repentg
@@mantas_birskus also from 14:00
Dying…
Me: *Reports a brand new account because they're obviously cheating*
Hikaru: *Just trying to reach 3000 elo on a new account in a speedrun*
@@user-jd5dy4lm3b Nah, I was kidding
On lichess you can watch top engines play eachother legitimately to learn and it's always fascinating what early or middle game strategies they use, but the endings are always these painful, never-ending shuffles where neither bot will commit to any risk of not having a winning chance
Yeah I feel the use of engines shines in the middlegame where tactics are prevelent and from somewhere they are able to get either a material or a positional asvantage without commiting too much from their side. It's also fascinating to try and understand their minds when they do queen or night sacs just to get a chance to win.
@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 or even just to hold on to chances to win in an otherwise drawn position. Something odd about a computer betting on its own chance of success and electing to give an opponent counter play
How do I watch it please?
@@antonyngunga6846 I wanted to know the same thing
Well not at all, in the engames engine use szygy tablebases and play with almost 100 % accuracy, so it's not like they are "afraid" of risk, the risk would be losing to one side.
Dewa Kipas: "Finally. Two worthy opponents. Our battle will be legendary!"
3, don't forget nikhil kamath
Nikhil is the greatest. He confessed cheating as it was a great work. He should be ashamed of himself
@@somikdasgupta5297 He went all "Haha, you thought I bet him without cheating? Nah, I just got some assistance from my Zerofish. It was a nice experience nevertheless"
@@sohomgupta2621 And the fact that he had the audacity to say that even Vishy took it as a "learning experience" makes my blood boil.
@@missgranger9723 me too. It was an exhibition game. I don't know what he wanted to prove . Maybe he wanted to show himself higher than Vishy. Such a disgrace
Son: They're randomly moving kings and queens around the board Dad
Dad: They're either 300's or computer cheaters.
The funniest thing is that a cheater will deny they’re cheating to the grave. They’ll play 100 games in a row at 99.7% accuracy and just be like “I’m just very good at chess.”
Plot twist is their opposition is utterly crap and just hanging pieces constantly.
“Chess speaks for itself”
Too true
@@JokerScribePotentially at the 200 level. But these accounts are like 2200 often. At that point 99% accuracy is pretty much impossible because your opponents are just far far too strong for any human to outperform that hugely.
Gothamchess, the name that sends shivers down the cheaters' bones, has returned
Don't click here - ua-cam.com/video/MQR7-ZZdR0k/v-deo.html
@@randomdude2981 Okay 🙂
@@randomdude2981 done
Cheese
@@randomdude2981 wow that is such an easy goal, literally 0 effort, so easy, idk how you would think this is a hard favor to ask
That was absoulutely wild. If the guy who was winning on time had just premoved a couple shuffley moves around he would have won on time before the 50 move rule kicked in.
white's king would've been mated in that case.
There's a reason he's using an engine instead of his brain
@@FourOneNineOneFourOne nah u spam checks so he never can
Levy: "This blatant cheater!"
Lichess: *ban*
Google: "Shit they keep banning our AlphaZero testing accounts"
Lmao This was funny
@@lordespion8789 u searched profile pictures on google
XD
Man this is funny
but lichess doesnt bn, they just force u to resign
Me: Can we have Stockfish vs Alphazero?
Mom: We have Stockfish vs Alphazero at home.
Stockfish vs Alphazero at home:
As a human, one of the things I love doing most is going into a repeating line instead of playing a clearly winning move, just in case my internal minimax algorithm finds a greater centipawn advantage somewhere in the middle of the repeating line
"Clearly winning move" there were no winning moves however? When the engines repeated they repeated because it was a draw and no move is winning, i feel like you are implying something which isnt true
The best thing it had apart from that was playing a risky move, which will always gurantee a lose against another computer since it wont mess it up
@@thekillerxgamer4674 I wrote this at 7:30 in the video which seemed to be clearly winning for white but maybe it wasn’t?
@@rock6606 oh, i thought you were talking about the endgame, yea i dunno why that was played, i dont think the engine alone would mess up something like that, think maybe the one playing white thought he is winning so decided to play on his own? Or something, maybe the rushed, im actually now confused as to why white didnt win
@@rock6606 mate in 23 with stockfish 14 at depth 61
@@thekillerxgamer4674 Yeah, I'm 98% sure that probably half of the moves white played were his own moves, which signifies he at the very least has a decent understanding of chess. I don't think it was that white's engine was necessarily fast, just white was only half using the engine and would make moves on his own the other half of the time.
Your engine runs in a browser. They probably use a bot/standalone program, in which Stockfish or any other engine will probably run a bit better. Also your engine re-analyzes the position from scratch every time, but I think you can actually make it so that Stockfish keeps depth of positions already calculated when another move is submitted to it, so it could also make their engine even faster to get into deeper depths.
How can Stockfish do that? I thought Stockfish exited after writing analysis of a position, and therefore can't preserve knowledge from one move to another. Hence why a UI app is needed to play a game -- the app maintains the game state.
@@rosiefay7283 I've looked into UCI myself; the bot doesn't quit upon a move being played, but the engine must always accept input from stdin and act accordingly. The bot is free to spit out whatever lines it pleases, even if that move isn't even legal (and thus forfeits), so it's perfectly possible for it to keep state.
In fact, there's even a special input for the top engine moving being played (hitting) as opposed to the gui giving it the move.
Check out the chess programming wiki if you wanna learn more~
If their wasting alot of time. There switch tabs and playing your moves in another website that will tell you the next best move
Your message has deeper depths in it.
Thats battle of the cheaters, it looks stockfish vs alphazero, white is looks alphazero moves opening etc, while black is looks like stockfish. Its so weird opening 😂 😂😂😂😂
I’ve been accused by opponents of using bots multiple times. I’m in the 1500s and play 60-70% accuracy. I find it hysterical
The reason is quite simple and primal: that dopamine release from seeing the numbers of their account go up. And then there's dumbass rationalisations they make for themselves like "everyone's cheating anyway, so I'm winning because I'm the best cheater".
"Pooping on the street" and "food for thought" are two phrases I hardly expected to be used in tandem.
I am going to use that quote
...actually not really.
@brothercuber3288 you be pooping on the street... food for thought
Oh my, that engine went from “I’m winning, I can’t draw, I must hang a piece” to “I’m losing, I must draw, I must lose a piece”, both of which were somewhat logical if you don’t consider the time on the clock.
Thank you so much for this, Levy. The antics those bots went through to avoid the game ending in a draw were hilarious. Refusing every queen-exchange offer. Throwing a bishop purely to avoid a 50-move draw. Attempted self-stalemate. All evidence for cheating, of course.
cheaters should'nt be banned. They should be put in a shadowban state where they can only play against other cheaters.
Nikhil Kamath: Good job guys, now you will definitely become a billionaire . 🌚
hi whats ur chess com acc
Dark emoji
@@deepikabhatia8612 It's actually a moon
@@muhammadabbas3841 dude you just ruined this whole reply section pls don't do it again.
@@PJ_enjoyer what did he say
The most fun i have in chess for a long time without playing serious, i need more content of this type
There is another video where he did the same
"i dont know why people do it, especially when no prizes are involved" oh poor levy... this has been the online gaming community for forever...
I thought this was going to be a boring draw between two engines, but that kamikaze ending was definitely exciting.
I still remember how chats sabotage cheater matching, frustrating & exhausting Levy.
He himself said ," This is why I like youtube more than you guys"
I don't watch Twictch.. Care to explain
@@godspeed5428 They do it by challenging the cheaters.
@@GeorgeDCowley 👍 thanks for explaining..
Bahaha I watched this live with my boyfriend yesterday. Even he was cracking up and he doesn’t play chess
need a new boyfriend sweetie?
ah shit wait i already have a girlfriend
@@hadialwazir9059 no, you do not have a girlfriend
@@hadialwazir9059 yeah a guy roaming in comments typing 'need A new Boyfriend SweeTie' def will have a girlfriend
I was making a joke about her boyfriend not playing chess so it wasn't even about me but you guys are so triggered, so sorry to annoy you
I LOVE this series. I didnt think I'd get to see it again because of "the incident" and I'm so glad thats far enough behind us to not be a deterrent. Thank you, Levy! I love your content.
what incident?
what incident?
By incident do you mean dewa kipas? That was just a small little drama that is still portrayed to be some grand insane war that was devastating to levy’s career, its not, some indonesians being mad doesnt mean shit, and nobody really ever truly caref about it
@@StanbyMode what happened with Dewa Kipas?
Over a year later and this was still one of the greatest TCEC games I've ever seen
Levy could you do more recaps of the Norway chess tournament since the last few rounds have had more decisive games
This is jesus in flesh form, be more polite
Agree. Last 2 days were insane, so much great chess!
He will, obviously. You just gotta be patient
Don;t clickk - ua-cam.com/video/MQR7-ZZdR0k/v-deo.html
He do need time to analyze moves , just be patience , you'll eventually get one later
I was hoping Levy cheated against Hikaru to claim that he is a GM
Hikaru would notice instantly though. He's played Levy way too much
Oh yeah I'd like to see Levy or someone high level, play (with cheats) against a GM like Hikaru. But they need to keep it hidden. I wonder if.... I wonder how long it takes for him to catch on
@@xEvilRaptorx If its someone he's really familiar with probably pretty fast, maybe a few top level players could pull it off mixing bot moves with their own intuitive spin on some moves
This is the fake levent k*********
Thats the type of shit that goes horribly wrong, gets you banned...hated on etc
Programmers of this chess engines were like: "remember son, drawing is gay"
When Gzim's opponent had like 7 seconds left Gzim could have just forgotten the engine or turned it off and kept checking his opponent until he ran out of time. You could tell he was hesitant to make that final Queen move (if he was in fact moving the pieces himself according to the engine).
Gotham! I know you probably won’t see this but you said something in a regular podcast (I think the northernlion one) that really resounded with me, you said that there were 2 primary things that were interesting in chess, guess the elo and blitz, but I think that many beginner viewers would really appreciate it if you remastered your basic opening videos! They are the best on UA-cam and although you have done them before openings are so broad and interesting that you can introduce new things and even if you can’t you can keep them fresh. Of course this is just a suggestion from a random UA-cam idiot so do what you will but in the unlikely chance that you have seen this comment and read this far thanks!
You should check out 'hanging pawns' UA-cam channel. He has playlists on a lot of openings and their variations
@@humankind5627 I love hanging pawns, especially for intermediate theory and when you want to learn a new opening from scratch, also road to GM is pretty great and also very instructive considering how solid he is. However I think that chess is subjective and different people of different skill levels will teach differently, all with their own merits.
Or the Big Greek. If you speak German.
He doesn't want to give away so many opening tactics for free though. He has quite a few opening courses, explained in detail.
That being said, I am an off-meta kinda-guy. So I'd love to see him talk about the Latvian Gambit or other crazy stuff, for example.
As Gotham has pointed out: beginners shouldn't focus on learning openings. In fact most chess coaches, IMs, GMs whatever would tell you that. It's because openings require deep understanding of the underlying principle of the specific opening. But prior to understanding the opening you should learn how to come up with a decent plan while studying the so to say golden rules (e.g.: putting pawns in the center, don't put your knights on the rim, don't move pawns in front of your kings), tactics and combinations before diving into complex strategic plans out of a certain opening.
Like 5 years ago when I was a 1200 player in rapid I didn't know anything and I started to study openings by looking at the moves from a chess database. So eventually I knew 20 moves into the Sicilian, which is such a sharp opening to play, but I didn't understand any of the proceeding plans. Eventually my opponent would blunder something, sometimes I would see how to convert it into something winning, but a lot of times I was just continuing the game without a plan and I would lose. But over time I would spend more time into learning tactics, looking into the principles, study my old games, and I could compliment my opening understanding with that and now I'm at 1600 rapid. But the point is: I would have never gotten there without looking into the more principled, simple, yet hard to see sometimes, tactics.
Oh and I also read some books about it. I would recommend the Winning Chess Series by Jeremy Sillman and Yasser Seirawan. More notably the ''Play Chess'', ''Winning Tactics'', and ''Winning Combinations'' books are so instructive.
It's crazy how many of these people there are. Like, I get reported for blundering three times in the opening, how do actual cheaters get hundreds of games in??
because people get reported for blundering three times in the opening
Because I regularly run into poor sports who will realize they're behind and then just stall until their timer runs out
Not even moving, just making sure their game is open until their clock it gone
this was one of the most interesting and instructive moments, made me really understand how chess bots work. thank you
Finally it came back!
I didn't think you would do this again after Indonesia, so thanks Levy!
what happens when ai's fight for world domination:
They do start doing stupid things as soon as its time to wrap it up. Humans sigh and take back the control from them.
they never stop launching nuclear bombs.
stalemate
Aww man, the greatest rematch we'll never see..
(Nevermind Fischer's games!)
instead of looking for the 7s draw, and spamming checks like any person would. it goes for the stalemate
*7s win. I expect the engine doesn't know the time control.
WOW! I love it! That suicidal stalemate was amazing. It was like watching Skynet get a panic attack.
This series is better than guess the elo. Change my mind.
No 161660 hangs a piece on move 6. No rap
I would prefer to watch two drunk 600s rather than the 101% accuracy chess games
@@wizard_dynamo You can't tell whether two 600s are drunk. They play the exact same way, regardless.
nyet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@wizard_dynamo i see no difference
hes not cheating, he just has a good gamin chair
the gaming chairs not good, the gaming chair just has a good gaming chair
Opponent: has 10 seconds and most likely getting flaged.
Computer: I am gonna do what's called a pro gamer move
14:00 Levy has gained lots of respect from me after that Yugioh reference
I know Hikaru said we're having too much fun out of what is, in the end of the day, people cheating... But I don't care, it is fun and I want more of it!
14th day of translating Levy's titles into Neapolitan:"A battaglij all'uldm sang e 2 ca imbrogln a scacc"
I once had an engine repeat moves against me in a perfectly winning position for the bot. It threw away a winning position and repeated moves against me. I was so confused.
If you were playing one of those celebrity bots maybe the bot was mimicking their behavior somehow?
@@iBigMacPT No, I was playing the Emir bot
This is like Stockfish 14 (white side) vs. Stockfish 13 (black side) gameplay.
Can someone explain how he's getting these 2 people to play each other?
He's given streamer perks ( he can cause games) it's made for sub battles
@@maxhusaini6400 thnx
The ending to that game was INSANE
All games should shadow ban cheaters into cheater-only matchmaking.
we need more of these!
So happy to see this series return. Was really afraid it was over after the Dewa Kipas case
YES! I was hoping you would do these types of videos again! They are so interesting!
Chessbot vs chessbot is like in Battle City Yami Yugi vs Strings where Slifer keep attacking the Revival Jem.
It has no purpose but they are forced to do it!
I've been watching your all kinds of videos for a whole month and this is literally where you reach your peak happiness/excitement. 😹 Like it's entertaining to just watch you scream with excitement when they play the top obvious engine moves
Yesssss!!! Been waiting for this! I'm happy Levy returned to this content 😁
To recognize cheaters in this game really helps out.
I wanna see more of this, very entertaining
Bro, I love your channel so much, these last few months that i found this gem have been the best, literally the best channel I’ve ever seen and am going to see probably, thanks for making me entertained.😌
I would like to see a video on time management in classical time controls.
I love how hyped you get for these its great content
I absolutely love these! Can you do more please? Love all your content though!
This is my favorite series you do, and the only series you do where I don't skip the video :)
the series is the most savage thing i've ever seen in chess......thanks levy for putting out such great content
Why does this look like the time when I used the engine to make Stockfish level 14 NNUE vs Level 13?
~Yours sincerely,
490 rated bozo.
@▶️Bbw middle finger for ya. ㅗ
BEST SERIES EVEEEER THIS IS CONTENT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
I love this game, continue this serie
The end was better than Marvel movies climax😂
Well done Levy..very innovative.
This is an interesting segment.!
15:47 Levy: Saying "essentially computers are programmed to
belligerently play for the win or find the best moves, ..., which is why that game was so fascinating, and then the computers totally exploded."
Me suddenly thought of a bad joke: Computers are programmed to
explode.
These videos are so entertaining if possible please try to make a couple more of these cheater videos thank you! Love from Canada!
Best chess series hands down
The “move time” thing worries me sometimes, when I’m at my house I’m constantly being distracted and asked to do things while I’m playing. I’ll end up spending a whole minute on recapturing a queen trade because I have to take out the garbage or something.
Do you also get consistently 90%+ percent?
Do you also spend the same amount of time on each and every move
It's not necessarily about taking a long time on an obvious move; it's taking the same amount of time whether a move is obvious or not obvious (and obviously it needs to be combined with other factors)
there is much, _much_ more evidence required in order to ban someone from cheating
Ayyy!! thank you for bringing this series back!
White sacrificing the queen for a stalemate is one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen. It’s also the furthest thing from a human move.
I always wonder how a cheater feels when they run in to another cheater. Is there some kind of mutual respect or are they like "This is unfair. This guy is cheating... Too!"
Probably the latter. I do not understand the motive to cheat in chess at all though.
@@kruksog You say that, but I've seen someone doing a book of sudoku before, and they were using the answer sheet in the back to fill them in. It was very interesting, because it seemed like they were enjoying it. They were basically playing coppy the numbers...
I can understand that sudoku thing a bit more, since they might be taking pleasure in the construction of the numbers and marvelling at the architecture of a sudoku puzzle
@@MHGFTW that is absolutely wild. It just seems so strange to me. The point (I thought) was to play the game. I just really don't get it, but you're right, people seem to get something out of it.
Extremely brave to bring this concept back to your channel at all
@Parker Productions are you aware of what he went through over this? Look up Dewa Kipas. The dude was getting death threats over this content.
Im so impressed this legend does a ton of prep and real world work to make content and advance his chess career, then busts out all these vids. Love you Rozy!
FINALLY! More cheat videos. These were always my favorite videos by Levy. Love the content of "catching cheats!"
I used to watch overwatch on counter strike.
Love it when cheaters get caught.
ROFL, the last forced stalemate is pathetic.
PS : how can they have reached those points level without being caught earlier
They've literally been around for hours.
We need more of this Levy😂😂
Please bring more like this!!!!
Fun and instructional
Levy with his poop discussion again at the end
"Imagine you film a crazy person pooping on the street, do you really think it's going to promote other people to poop on the street."
~ IM Levy Rozman
Obviously it will, Levy is just part of the grand conspiracy to destroy America.
it's crazy how people can just blatantly cheat and think they're not sus at all
Daaaamn that was craaaaaaaazyyyy !!! Do videos like those more, it s so much entertaining
Day "I forgor" of translating Levy's title to Pirate: "2 Chess Cheaters BATTLE T' DEATH"
i forgor 💀
You're the only based translator
I love how black might not even have been a cheater because they actually thought, but white played 100 moves in less than 3 minutes 😂
Perhaps black used an engine and white used a bot.
Doubt it. Black wouldn’t have survived for that long without an engine.
Black was 100% a cheater.
maybe not from that game, but there may be further evidence in other games that suggests that black is a cheater
@@danielyuan9862 maybe not from that game? He 100% beyond any doubt cheated in that game, anyone higher than 800 can tell that.
There's no pin of shame. I'm scared...
Please make more of these videos this is hilarious
"no im not interested in your ex-girlfriend" - levy, 2021
Shame, someone needs to get that bitch off my back. Maybe Hikaru will distract her for me?
@@rgderen88 you should ask caruana
Me: *That spends 5 minutes on 1 obvious move. And 1 minute on a unobvious move.*
Opponent: *Cheater!*
Game Engine: *Both my moves are a blunder...*
That's what I call double brilliant...
But then Brilliant times brilliant is blunder
It looked like it wasn't actually even 2 people playing, just 2 computers playing each other.
you know this guy has seen someone pooping on the street.
Day 172.75 of translating Levy's titles to Russian: "2 шахматных читера сражаются до смерти"
Wow
day 72.75 of replying to _ruf [Roughly_]
Day 5 of replying to Mohd 1991 (Lelouch Vi Britannia)
Translate to English: Allow me to introduce myself
@@Thatsweat appreciate it
17:30 This will make people know that they can cheat, but don't get me wrong, keep this amazing content
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UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
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well, knowing that people an cheat in chess is just part of growing up
I like the way he talks with his hands in the beginning. It’s very robotic and then at the same time it’s not.
I think it is not only a battle of engines, but also a battle between those operator's will.