@ I do in fact play a magden - a few very basic tweaks to sustain and this is a NON issue for any competent player. The issue is it stacks infinitely in groups, like echoing vigor, and makes just a few wardens virtually unkillable. Thanks for playing though
@@ICE11BRAVO so in reality what your saying is You get destroyed my magden all the time and you want it nerfed. Also I was being civil until you insulted me therefore I'll be frank. I think your probably a very low level player who doesn't actually know how to counter a heal. A vamp magden is not an easy thing to sustain can assure you, you clearly dont play it. It's irrelevant anyway I'd beat you with any class so theres that.
@@wormcultist6637 I played Acuity Magden and it was the easiest thing I've ever played. Warden is the last class you should be having sustain issues on.
never played mechanical on templar stam or mag, i think Stuhns Favor, Deadly & Even Oakfathers works really good on templar rn but that might be more meta
Magsorc is so disgusting man. Once upon a time you had to be good to play that class, now it feels so talentless lol. Stamsorc doesnt feel week but it feels like shit to play. Kind of wish stamsorc got some quality of life buffs like not having to run mag crit pots.
Truly! I 1v1 a mag sorc in Cyrodil last week & he even was cheating! Hit me with 3 curses in a row! I was so flabbergasted I forgot to report & clip it
I agree with everything except for arcanist, in no cp and bgs they are impossible to take down 2vs1 3vs1 sometimes more, they pop shields nonstop more than a sorc and they definitely have the damage to take you down.
Getting back into the game after like a year and don't really know what the "Meta" sets are right now for PvP, Any recommendations? I have all the classes.
Rally Cry. Wretched Vitality, Oakfathers, mechanical acuity, daedric trickery, dragon appetite, also there are new class-based sets for each class. I haven't tried any yet but I've heard good things.
I think tier lists should be separate for noproc/nocp cyro, bgs and cp+proc cyro. also, is it for solo, or group play. Support necro or tank necro arent trash :P sometimes :P Full well-fitted magsorc is the most annoying stuff to fight against. i prefer to be oneshotted by magblade than try to catch that D:
As a stamcro main im not gonna lie i think it cpuld beA tier. The class can stack damage reduction with Spirit Guardian, Deaden pain, and Nobility in Decay+undeath. Pair that with Blighted Blastbones doing major and minor defile to help deal with shields and get through crosshealing and it can for sure work incredibly well. Personally as someone with over a thousand hours on the class i don't think Stamcro needs buffs but that could just be a personal biases on my part 😅
@Khysage I van agree with that, it's in a good spot and I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just not sure what they can buff on stamcro that doesn't break it ya know lol I guess only change I wanna see is 20 second spirit Guardian up from 16 lol
@@Khysageof course lol, i will tell you though bro.. my mag and stam arc SLAPS still. And Magcro is absolutely A or S tier.. idk what they be doing on PC to not know about the builds 😭
@@Khysage Not actually, Im a stage 4 vampire, so my spammable is the Arterial Burst for that nice guarateed tier 3 hemorrhage. My main attribute is mag. I just go with blastbones and the archer, cuz the archer does more single target damage and the blastbones is like Necro's beetles, great burst damage. Then I run dual sharpenned daggers in the front for additional crit chance along with the pen, so I get some stam suatain, and a fire staff on the back. Its a hybrid, but although mostly meele, Im actually more of a mag than a stamcro. Deff not S tier... but at least A tier, for me at least... I guess it's no simple to manage but it works and it is fun... I mean like you, I always liked Magcro... i just wanted to keep making it work somehow XD, Sorry bout the huge text.
this video is just cope bro. Unfortunately this game isnt hype enough or balanced enough to be considered a competition type. Its kind of like ranking mario party characters at this point. Hey man your vids are top notch but this game just aint it. Spend your 2025 playing better games
I play a lot of different games. I just like posting videos. I’ve been away from scrolls for like 18 months. I’ve played here and there but I’m just now playing again consistently. I can still have fun on it. Long breaks are definitely needed though
@@Khysage I'm glad you are having fun. I am trying my best to get into it, but after playing pvp games with real balance and devs who care about the competitive side of pvp games it's really hard to go back.
@@Gutz1204 tekken 8 and street fighter 6 are good examples for competitive pvp. Even MK1 isn't bad lately . Get good enough you can even earn real money unlike eso lol not one single competitive tournament. Sad
As someone who has played every class religiously; dk/sorc being my mains. I wholeheartedly disagree with you on the dk aspect. Yea, dk is amazing aslong as you have atleast one other person with you. But if you are solo, or even in bgs trying to catch an X off to the side, i'd put it in B tier. I'v tried multiple builds, and who knows; maybe im just shit now and just need to adjust how to play that class since I quit for 2 years. But it was extremely unenjoyable to me. I was having a better experience playing arcanist than I was playing dk. My biggest qualm with the game is that magsorc and NB have gotten continuously buffed over the past decade and other classes get left in the dust. The fact you can have it all as those classes kinda blows my mind. 19k bow for just doing light/heavies to line with one of the strongest low cost ults in the game, infinate sustain and playable on about any build possible? nah fam it's time for some nerfs.
What you’re saying is very fair. Have you tried pyrebrand yet? It’s a DK exclusive set that gives it crazy burst. Also remember sustain and defense factors in for ratings not just damage
@@Khysage I haven't no. Ironically im currently farming for pyrebrand because it looks awesome. i'v been farming IA for like 3 days and im still missing a piece or two. I tried mechanical/rally, wretched rally, trickery wretched and all of those the damage seemed just fine, it was the survivability and sustain i was having the biggest issue with. tried imperial, nord, breton; I either had enough damage with no survivabilty (mainly because of sustain) even with scribing skills it just seemed lack luster solo compared to even stam sorc. In group setting, or with atleast one other person to play off of, it's great. But the same could be with any class.
@khysage especially when you compare it against certain mashups especially sorc or nb who are both completely broken classes that have everything in their kit. mobility, amazing sustain, insane burst and endless survivability. If you fight a even halfway decent sorc who overload spams and just keeps you at a distance on dk you're just cooked because you have to make sacrifices in the build to account for other shortcomings of the class. If you give up damage for sustain or tankyness, you're just not gonna kill a good player. if you give up sustain you're just cooked because everything on the class is crazy expensive for what little they do compared to other classes. Yea, the dot pressure is insane, the burst is great in corrosive but ever since the nerf to earthen heart passives over ult gain during it; you cant afford to save for it constantly unless you run an ult gen build like oakensoul or trickery. Im not knocking your opinion at all; shit if anything im looking for advice because it may just be a "you need to adapt" situation or who knows; I may just be shit now.
@@Reign0fZeusno I think you got some points. 1vX anything feels really difficult honestly. I suppose I should of mentioned 2vX carries the most weight for me. Solo is almost non existent
Unless you are doing a mech bomber build on arc you are not doing much in bg compared to your avg dk. Not sure when was the last time you played but arc is just terrible for pvp other than trolling people on some variant of tank builds. Dk on the other hand can build very specific for 1v1 purpose or general good at everything purpose.
False. Necro top... Also mag sorc never had problems with heal.. Cover your resto staff shield with Ward or any morph of Annulment and you were good to go. But zos are clueless sheet, and over buff already OP class, so now every stupid kid can spam ward, let detonation do dmg for him, and sheet Frag procs every 1 second.
Before shield buff most mag sorcs didn’t run resto at least for a solid year or so. I know they did back in the day. Necro is not top at all. If you don’t got video then I’m not hearing it lol
Necro have protenial to excel at 1v1 since they can degen and dot like no tomorrow. But that's about it and also group rez if you are into gvg. Templar is very good but alot of people don't want to invest and learn about game mechanics and sets/skill combinations. I am not talking about feel about right experience. I am talking about people actually using cmx to track numbers/uptime and find the way to play templar correctly.
I appreciate the love on the video but if you think Necro is too low I need to see video proof 🤣.
@@Khysage i dont post content i stream you absolute imbecile enjoy ur trash UA-cam algorithm...
Very Good tier , normaly i play templar but switched recently to magblade and u said it right , defensivly they're craaaaaaaaaaaap :p
Sounds about right, well done. That northern storm is definitely still overpowered
I miss when 25k-28k was the norm for health. Also agree with a good balance is having 2/3 categories the 3rd you make up with skill
@@kingboomgaming8462 truth
Very informative, great video 👏🏽
@@Moonsiah 🙏🏼
Warden polar wind is still completely and entirely busted.
Do you realise how expensive that heal is to cast, especially as a vampire
@ I do in fact play a magden - a few very basic tweaks to sustain and this is a NON issue for any competent player. The issue is it stacks infinitely in groups, like echoing vigor, and makes just a few wardens virtually unkillable.
Thanks for playing though
I’ll have to look at it again. Without the crazy health I felt like it was fine.
@@ICE11BRAVO so in reality what your saying is
You get destroyed my magden all the time and you want it nerfed. Also I was being civil until you insulted me therefore I'll be frank. I think your probably a very low level player who doesn't actually know how to counter a heal. A vamp magden is not an easy thing to sustain can assure you, you clearly dont play it. It's irrelevant anyway I'd beat you with any class so theres that.
@@wormcultist6637 I played Acuity Magden and it was the easiest thing I've ever played. Warden is the last class you should be having sustain issues on.
never played mechanical on templar stam or mag, i think Stuhns Favor, Deadly & Even Oakfathers works really good on templar rn but that might be more meta
Oakfathers could be really good. Mechanical is definitely more damage than stuhns or deadly.
Try out that mechanical, it slaps tanks if rotated correctly
What is your mag sorc build?
@@anthonya5023 ua-cam.com/video/Ct0-zZBTA2c/v-deo.htmlsi=pbcq452ZdynEWpdO
Charm ?? Good video btw fair assessed class ratings
It’s the class mastery in scribing. It’s an unblockable stun that put you in a weird animation
@@Khysage thanks!
Magsorc is so disgusting man. Once upon a time you had to be good to play that class, now it feels so talentless lol. Stamsorc doesnt feel week but it feels like shit to play. Kind of wish stamsorc got some quality of life buffs like not having to run mag crit pots.
Truly! I 1v1 a mag sorc in Cyrodil last week & he even was cheating! Hit me with 3 curses in a row! I was so flabbergasted I forgot to report & clip it
I agree with everything except for arcanist, in no cp and bgs they are impossible to take down 2vs1 3vs1 sometimes more, they pop shields nonstop more than a sorc and they definitely have the damage to take you down.
@@Wagmon-hz8nj that’s fair BGs were weighted low for me because I’m an open world player.
Getting back into the game after like a year and don't really know what the "Meta" sets are right now for PvP, Any recommendations? I have all the classes.
Rally Cry. Wretched Vitality, Oakfathers, mechanical acuity, daedric trickery, dragon appetite, also there are new class-based sets for each class. I haven't tried any yet but I've heard good things.
I think tier lists should be separate for noproc/nocp cyro, bgs and cp+proc cyro.
also, is it for solo, or group play. Support necro or tank necro arent trash :P sometimes :P
Full well-fitted magsorc is the most annoying stuff to fight against. i prefer to be oneshotted by magblade than try to catch that D:
I made my criteria very clear in this video. Open world 1vX & 2vX held the most weight
As a stamcro main im not gonna lie i think it cpuld beA tier. The class can stack damage reduction with Spirit Guardian, Deaden pain, and Nobility in Decay+undeath.
Pair that with Blighted Blastbones doing major and minor defile to help deal with shields and get through crosshealing and it can for sure work incredibly well.
Personally as someone with over a thousand hours on the class i don't think Stamcro needs buffs but that could just be a personal biases on my part 😅
Stamcro is definitely in a fine spot. B tier isn’t bad considering where it’s been. I think it could use a little more.
@Khysage I van agree with that, it's in a good spot and I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just not sure what they can buff on stamcro that doesn't break it ya know lol
I guess only change I wanna see is 20 second spirit Guardian up from 16 lol
We need a magcro build
I’m working on it bro 😭
Added the Arc lesss gooooo 😭
@@iTARGIT 🤣 I had to
@@Khysageof course lol, i will tell you though bro.. my mag and stam arc SLAPS still. And Magcro is absolutely A or S tier.. idk what they be doing on PC to not know about the builds 😭
@@iTARGIT magcro in this patch being S tier might be the worst ESO take of all time 🤣😭. I’m definitely one of the best magcros and it is plain bad.
@@iTARGIT as for arcanist you’re going to have to upload some clips. Comments are easy, I need video proof.
@ are you a khajit and are you running a crit build?
stamdk will always be SS+ in my heart🥲
what about a HybridCro?
I wouldnt say it's S tier, but at least B tier it is.
I've got a magcro with stam blast bones and archer, it has good burst.
Hybridization makes mag and stam difficult to separate. I’m assuming you play more like a Stamcro which I have in B Tier
@@Khysage Not actually, Im a stage 4 vampire, so my spammable is the Arterial Burst for that nice guarateed tier 3 hemorrhage. My main attribute is mag. I just go with blastbones and the archer, cuz the archer does more single target damage and the blastbones is like Necro's beetles, great burst damage. Then I run dual sharpenned daggers in the front for additional crit chance along with the pen, so I get some stam suatain, and a fire staff on the back.
Its a hybrid, but although mostly meele, Im actually more of a mag than a stamcro.
Deff not S tier... but at least A tier, for me at least... I guess it's no simple to manage but it works and it is fun... I mean like you, I always liked Magcro... i just wanted to keep making it work somehow
XD, Sorry bout the huge text.
this video is just cope bro. Unfortunately this game isnt hype enough or balanced enough to be considered a competition type.
Its kind of like ranking mario party characters at this point. Hey man your vids are top notch but this game just aint it.
Spend your 2025 playing better games
I play a lot of different games. I just like posting videos. I’ve been away from scrolls for like 18 months. I’ve played here and there but I’m just now playing again consistently. I can still have fun on it. Long breaks are definitely needed though
@@Khysage I'm glad you are having fun. I am trying my best to get into it, but after playing pvp games with real balance and devs who care about the competitive side of pvp games it's really hard to go back.
@@ThoraxtheDarkkwhat games are you playing with balance lol?
@@Gutz1204 tekken 8 and street fighter 6 are good examples for competitive pvp. Even MK1 isn't bad lately . Get good enough you can even earn real money unlike eso lol not one single competitive tournament. Sad
As someone who has played every class religiously; dk/sorc being my mains. I wholeheartedly disagree with you on the dk aspect. Yea, dk is amazing aslong as you have atleast one other person with you. But if you are solo, or even in bgs trying to catch an X off to the side, i'd put it in B tier. I'v tried multiple builds, and who knows; maybe im just shit now and just need to adjust how to play that class since I quit for 2 years. But it was extremely unenjoyable to me. I was having a better experience playing arcanist than I was playing dk. My biggest qualm with the game is that magsorc and NB have gotten continuously buffed over the past decade and other classes get left in the dust. The fact you can have it all as those classes kinda blows my mind. 19k bow for just doing light/heavies to line with one of the strongest low cost ults in the game, infinate sustain and playable on about any build possible? nah fam it's time for some nerfs.
What you’re saying is very fair. Have you tried pyrebrand yet? It’s a DK exclusive set that gives it crazy burst. Also remember sustain and defense factors in for ratings not just damage
@@Khysage I haven't no. Ironically im currently farming for pyrebrand because it looks awesome. i'v been farming IA for like 3 days and im still missing a piece or two. I tried mechanical/rally, wretched rally, trickery wretched and all of those the damage seemed just fine, it was the survivability and sustain i was having the biggest issue with. tried imperial, nord, breton; I either had enough damage with no survivabilty (mainly because of sustain) even with scribing skills it just seemed lack luster solo compared to even stam sorc. In group setting, or with atleast one other person to play off of, it's great. But the same could be with any class.
@khysage especially when you compare it against certain mashups especially sorc or nb who are both completely broken classes that have everything in their kit. mobility, amazing sustain, insane burst and endless survivability. If you fight a even halfway decent sorc who overload spams and just keeps you at a distance on dk you're just cooked because you have to make sacrifices in the build to account for other shortcomings of the class. If you give up damage for sustain or tankyness, you're just not gonna kill a good player. if you give up sustain you're just cooked because everything on the class is crazy expensive for what little they do compared to other classes. Yea, the dot pressure is insane, the burst is great in corrosive but ever since the nerf to earthen heart passives over ult gain during it; you cant afford to save for it constantly unless you run an ult gen build like oakensoul or trickery. Im not knocking your opinion at all; shit if anything im looking for advice because it may just be a "you need to adapt" situation or who knows; I may just be shit now.
@@Reign0fZeusno I think you got some points. 1vX anything feels really difficult honestly. I suppose I should of mentioned 2vX carries the most weight for me. Solo is almost non existent
Unless you are doing a mech bomber build on arc you are not doing much in bg compared to your avg dk.
Not sure when was the last time you played but arc is just terrible for pvp other than trolling people on some variant of tank builds.
Dk on the other hand can build very specific for 1v1 purpose or general good at everything purpose.
False. Necro top... Also mag sorc never had problems with heal.. Cover your resto staff shield with Ward or any morph of Annulment and you were good to go. But zos are clueless sheet, and over buff already OP class, so now every stupid kid can spam ward, let detonation do dmg for him, and sheet Frag procs every 1 second.
Before shield buff most mag sorcs didn’t run resto at least for a solid year or so. I know they did back in the day. Necro is not top at all. If you don’t got video then I’m not hearing it lol
Necro have protenial to excel at 1v1 since they can degen and dot like no tomorrow. But that's about it and also group rez if you are into gvg.
Templar is very good but alot of people don't want to invest and learn about game mechanics and sets/skill combinations. I am not talking about feel about right experience. I am talking about people actually using cmx to track numbers/uptime and find the way to play templar correctly.
Top necro!!! 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious bro! Maybe if you’re in a groups dropping smashes but in 1vX necros ain’t that good at all
@ I was obv jk about necro. Also let me tell you smth. There is no 1vsX in this game. Killing pve grps changes nothing.